Hearthstone: Trump Standard Teachings - 7 - Midrange Hunter

[@mrpicklesful]

8:10 "The value was unnecessary" NANIIIII?!?!

[@xXOldCampXx]

I know, right? That´s not something the Major of Valuetown would ever say....

[@ficolas2]

You know whats better than value? hitting face.

[@kerhs9287]

what is NANIIII?

[@mrpicklesful]

DentraTheDankster Moonspeak for WHAAAT?!?!?!

[@kerhs9287]

vids sounded anime and I'm guessing it was

[@danilomendonca31]

Omg it was so hard to play call of the wild, thanks for teaching me trump

[@GSBroker]

salty much?

[@vincenthall7174]

Call of the wild should read, 8 mana "Win you the game".

[@timcrowther2735]

+Vincent Hall Not quite. As powerful as the card is, it has it's weaknesses. Still weak against mages with frost nova, flamestrike, etc. And the mage hero power... Yh mage is generally a bad match up.

[@timcrowther2735]

+Vincent Hall On the other hand, highmane is still op against mage.

[@HiddenWen]

"Win you the game." If not lethal, ensure your next draw is Call of the Wild.

[@rickstivens4240]

5:58 King's Elekk: 6 mana 3/2 charge draw 2 cards feelsgoodman

[@krangitebacon5039]

add to that that it destroys a secret and you would have a god tier card

[@Numbers_Game]

i wonder if that card would be run

[@PharmDiff]

+NOBUNAGA1991 I think so actually. Quickshot dog from charge is worth 2 mana, 2 cards is worth 3 mana, and the body is 2 mana. That would be op, damage plus amazing refuel.

[@PharmDiff]

Quickshot *dmg

[@trentmurphy7231]

"I simply wanted more value but the value may have been unnecessary" king of value town, how could you say such blasphemy

[@dabigbossdk]

Best series on channel.

[@Jon-yv4iu]

I would recommend giving ram wrangler a go. it usually is above curve even though sometimes it's real disapointing

[@Boghoul]

your videos are so calming

[@snuffalapagus]

I play essentially this same deck but subbing out Stranglethorn Tiger with Explosive Trap to help against the overzealous zoo/shaman meta right now and get a little more value out of your Eaglehorn Bows. Also Dreadscale I swap for Leeroy. Rank 8 last season with the deck; thoughts?

[@DFz_007]

I feel like Trump should have showcased a control warrior matchup at the end. Even though the hunter is favored the way you win is by actually keeping highmane and call of the wild which might not make sense to someone new to this deck.

[@zillyzachary]

In that situation in the beginning, would it really have been worth to go face with Huffer if he was playing a normal midrange?

[@jaywasd]

8:13 I thought the same thing while you were doing it. I was like..mayor of value town over here xD

[@giuseppemantegna9301]

Quick random question: for replacing the dreadscale, instead of the second Carrion Grub what do you think about a Tomb spider? it's a 3/3 beast 4 mana (smother the mana curve) and gives a new beast...

[@mimiiq1408]

Are there any replacements for Quick Shot? I am working on LoE right now and probably won't be getting Blackrock Mountain anytime soon.

[@E0011]

I use Arcane Shots ._.

[@mmk31521]

+Trump Can you please do a standard teachings for a control priest (One with C'Thun, Emperor, and N'Zoth)?

[@mrmr3141]

probably already said somewhere (and haven't watched the video yet) but why carrion grub? wouldn't desert camel be basically better?

[@NeNzO334]

I play this deck with one Ram Wrangler, but you didn't even mention it. What is your opinion about that? (Tiger replaced)

[@kawaiarinokripperino9719]

That card is terrible, tiger is much better

[@henrikmoep]

+Atlas It is not terrible, it can be great

[@NeNzO334]

Difference is that you need a board for Ram, but the Tiger can be played alone, the real question is that the Ram a win more card or not?

[@breach_meidith]

the tiger is a good, reliable 5/5 with stealth which almost nothing can remove, and can guarantee your Deadly Shots, Beastmasters and whatnot synergies. Ram Wrangler is weak for its cost, requires Beasts on board to even do what it does (and mind you, you are already paying basically 3 mana for its effect) and when it does what it does - it is RNG if it even gets something good. so how does that sound to you? if you like casino plays, then I guess a single Wrangler is fine, but no way is it better or reliable than Tiger.

[@NeNzO334]

breach Finally an intelligent and logical comment, thanks :)

[@fouzisilvano8550]

scavenging hyena can be added works with the hounds especially vs zoo decks just came from a game where I made a 20/11 hyena

[@E0011]

Hyena is been in and out of the Hunter decks,it's pretty good tho

[@sumedhpotla9922]

Please do freeze Mage next!

[@alexthompson2162]

he already did it the win condition is the same so just watch the old one

[@gabuks1]

I'd switch out the bats for trackings. They're good on any turn and they sift trough the garbage to get to your call of the wilds faster. Plus better for kings elekk jousts and great when top decking.

[@kawaiarinokripperino9719]

Then u get rekt by zoo

[@HolyAn]

C'thub control warrior next please.

[@indiantechsupport6603]

thats so basic, just control cards like shieldslam, justicar en brawl (no grommash) and good c'thun related cards.

[@HolyAn]

***** ok then how about tempo freeze mage?

[@indiantechsupport6603]

Holy An I don't play that deck.

[@HolyAn]

***** Trump can try teaching tempo freeze mage too.

[@indiantechsupport6603]

Holy An and how dafuq you gonna combine a slow af deck with a fast deck. You crazy....

[@dreamerx23]

do you think it'll be good to run some form of weapon removal in this deck?

[@kelemenszabo1467]

So much SMorc. Love it.

[@patrickporter6441]

Can you do a deck teachings on Neiman's face pirate warrior from the starleague series?

[@EbiFamil]

Opinion of Desert camel rather than Carrison Grub in this deck?

[@joshualee6536]

dread scale is great on hunter, counters zoolock well.

[@NoeLPZC]

Counters Shadow Strike, Backstab and Dark Iron Skulker too.

[@joshualee6536]

NoeLPZC really true.

[@E0011]

Makes the unwinable winable

[@Lengari]

i want the old upload times so i can go to sleep while watching trump(23:00 GMT would be nice^^)

[@anonymous123456on]

hey um at 16:00 why didn't you go for face? >.

[@MixxedMeFunny98]

Aggro Paladin next please :D great video. I would also enjoy an updated freeze mage

[@robineuvonen224]

Don't go that down to freeze mage. Nobody wants to see that you already won 6 turns ahead of the actual game ending.

[@CAPT_Crack]

Just started playing this deck today! PogChamp

[@luckytheabsol9279]

Would replacing the tiger for an Azure Drake be decent? It's not the slowest, it has some combo, and it has "decent" stats.

[@onlyicedgarrett7791]

Doesn't sound too bad, I think the worst loss is that 4 hp can be much worse than 5, cause of Emperor 7, Truesilver, etc.

[@JohnyScissors]

I think in one of the tournament games a guy was playing Midrange Hunter and was playing bloodmage thalnos and that seemed to work pretty well

[@xNaowx]

I'd rather not remove a tiger. Tiger + skill command is like a two turn pyroblast and if you do it on turn 7/8 you have enough mana to steady shot twice for another 4 damage and 3 mana left open for more skill/quick shot/etc capping out at 19 dmg with 3 cards on turn 8.

[@Gmagtube]

It could work with all the damaging spells hunter has, but the stealth and beast synergy are great as well. Your choice, really.

[@tomato2243]

No, you need tiger as a finisher and beast synergy.

[@lookwhatudid5095]

should I DE my, lore walker cho? I'm a F2P player and really need the dust for other legendarys/cards.

[@lookwhatudid5095]

***** cool

[@TheSergioMexico]

Go ahead

[@TheSergioMexico]

Just tell us wich card you would like to craft after :)

[@lookwhatudid5095]

GOTTAGETAGRIP "Ragnorus the firelord" to complete my n'zoth paladin deck ;)

[@adrianvelasco9006]

totally worth it

[@Yzurra]

How did he make the deck show the cost in gold and dust and what expansion it uses? Is it just editing aftermath?

[@TheWizardPlayers]

never thought anybody would ask thid Question, but yes it's editing

[@theokoefod5668]

How do you get that decklist thing on the left?

[@patrickallen6158]

What about Shaky Zipgunner & Smugglers Crate?

[@93msimpson]

Will you go back to Wild format, trump?

[@Kibix1]

I just noticed that on the thumbnail Trump is pointing to the black board with 3 markers snapped together. Trump confirmed mind of 6 year old 😂

[@yugen]

Why didn't you kill command for 3 and face shot for 2 at 7:45? edit: finished watching, you won shortly after.

[@Jani_99]

what do you guys think? I use 2 flame juggler 1 toad 1 highmane 1 tracking and Harrison

[@Jani_99]

what do you guys think? I use 2 flame juggler 1 toad 1 highmane 1 tracking and Harrison n

[@randompastahandle]

all the harthstone quots hit it vary hard some respect

[@Specter053]

Holy crap.. a deck I can actually carry on my wayward, grub. But how about the Camel instead?

[@yonikesponsorme9067]

Free tunnel trogg for Shamans

[@Specter053]

YoNikeSponsorMe And it is also bad against Warlocks, thanks to Flame Imp/Possessed Villager/Voidwalker. But still, it is 3 out of maybe 10 to 12 decks.

[@like2upload3videos]

+Zam that's a bad way to look at it imo. Also , you're forgetting stuff like mana wyrm , northshire etc etc

[@GSBroker]

When 66% of the games are against warlocks and shamans, using camel doesn't seem too promising.

[@Specter053]

***** Both Mana Wyrm and Northshire can be traded with either Fiercy Bat and Injured Kavlar (the 2/4 of 1 that deals 3 damage on itself). But Trogg has the problem of Wolf, and those doesn't trade well with Imp or Possessed Villager.

[@maximussmith6135]

Wouldn't a better replacement for dreadscale be unleash? 3 mana board clear.. Not sure just wanted to check.

[@kawaiarinokripperino9719]

2 unleash is clunky

[@rarpott]

+Atlas My logic is different. I will always run 2 Unleashes, because even tho they're clunky it's rare that you draw both and it's already very hard to get an unleash against Zoo with 2 of them in the deck (even if you mulligan for the unleash). If you want to run 1 Unleash I would only do it in a Tracking version because then you can search for it better. It's very hard to keep up with a good zoo game, so as a midrange hunter with only 6 proactive early game plays you need some kind of comeback mechanism, so I think second unleash would be a better replacement for Dreadscale, which serves the same purpose as unleash generally.

[@maximussmith6135]

Thanks for the feedback! Will probs run the second unleash for dreadscale.

[@rarpott]

+Maximus Smith ;)

[@Toobar95]

Everybody knows that face is the place

[@danellboy5757]

me summon lelok? nope! Me summon huffer? YEP!

[@Toobar95]

Taste my Steel Nop Taste my Skill YEP!

[@kebeiwjwgseywgw5590]

+Lucid Truth summon misha? NOPE! another huffer? YEP!

[@TheJavyop]

Is like Trump forgot this was a "Trump Teachnigs" video halfway through. He gave very few advices or insights about the deck itself but went and played turns like any other video.

[@aaabirb]

thats probably because there's not much to teach, its a higher curve face hunter, you smorc most times unless your own face hurt

[@julianolvera7700]

Can u do freeze mage next please? Thank you

[@tossover6490]

I think he's already done a freeze Mage teaching,the decks win condition hasn't actually changed

[@julianolvera7700]

+Tossover6 just saw it thanks:)

[@Gnagster]

+Tossover6 but didn't he do a reboot of miracle rogue? I get that there are new cards in miracle, but freeze would be interesting to see some (5 ish) different cards and the new matchups

[@Gumburo]

Problem is Freeze mage (to my knowledge) is significantly weaker on ladder since WotOG. I have an incomplete version of the deck (missing forgotten torch + 1 doomsayer) but it hasn't gained anything new since WotOG. Unless you want to add shatter but that would probably be terrible...

[@florianvanloo4109]

Freeze Mage is still good. Something that it gained this expansion was no more match ups against midrange druid, which it was bad against.

[@MichaelBOOOM]

I feel like this deck is the easiest one to maneuver right now. It's like the same skill cap as face hunter, but is hidden behind a new glossy name.

[@101beatdown]

Except the cards (namely Call of the Wild) are harder to come by so you don't see it everywhere. The horrors of face hunter were the same as the horrors of Zoolock. The cards are cheap and almost anybody can play it.

[@qazwsx6525]

"Big Game" Hunter Has a nice ring to it

[@ogstef]

"Kill the Rouge? Yep."

[@TheDBest1994]

Rouge mains deserve to die.

[@daann4692]

Rogue mains are cool though

[@GrandAngel8000]

Rogue*

[@kebeiwjwgseywgw5590]

think till rope? NOPE!! kill the rogue! YEP!!

[@mariocenario1121]

I'm only missing dreadscale, whic card should i replace him for?

[@YeloFelo]

You can add another Unleash, or Grub.

[@LlorracTN]

I don't get why people have started playing Tundra rhino. If it doesn't stick then it's a 5 mana stormwind knight, does the card stay around often enough for it to be worth it?

[@eriksadul]

Kinda hard to kill at 5 health, and you usually have board control with this deck, so it's likely to stick around a turn. you also have low cost beasts to combo with rhino in later turns.

[@vanishy0urself]

If it sticks even for just _one_ turn, it can be insane. If you can get it on turn 7 with hero power and then follow up with Call of the Wild on turn 8... doesn't happen often, but is absolute devastation when it does.

[@leonardosandri5461]

Trump can u please make a cthun warrior teaching?

[@donandreyreyesllamas7920]

hearthstone should also made a fandral hunter so that if you play deadly shot adjecent minions are also deadly shoted so its also like both

[@tszhinhung7212]

where is trump originally from

[@Metabeast123]

what deck tracker is this?

[@zugzwangzing515]

Can I replace Stranglehorn Tiger with Princess Huhuran?

[@pango4425]

Not a bad replacement if you manage to get Huhuran, as she has more value than due to the bigger body and deathrattle triggers. The problem is that you're rarely able to make good use of the battlecry, and the stealth on tiger is crucial for finishing off your opponent. It basically depends on whether or not you want value or aggressiveness, although most choose the latter.

[@nemanjajesic5570]

what wing is better 3th loe or second wing of black rock mountain

[@AmazingSpriter97]

loe is a far bettert expansion than blackrock. all blackrock is good for is quickshot, imp gang boss, thaurissan and dragon cards

[@aaabirb]

+AmazingSpriter97 isn't that just blackrock? also flamewaker

[@AmazingSpriter97]

+Damien Weyrauch yeah I was saying those are the only cards in Blackrock that are good whilst mostly all cards in loe are good

[@changhunlee3612]

What about N'zoth?

[@TheSteeljaws99]

is it possible to put a nzoth if the game goes on for 2 long

[@LawFerryAC]

put yogg in just in case you run into freeze mage or a different counter. and then yell HAIL MARY

[@AngelofDethMetal]

I put it in my hunter deck and so far it's been really useful. The curve is so good with this deck that it's hard to run out of cards so 1 dead card in aggro matchups isn't that bad and even then you can drop it once you stabilize and close out the game. I'm not running carrion, tundra or stranglethorn tho in favor of lower cost anti aggro cards so it's also good to have a N'Zoth at the back end of the deck to counter Cthun or N'zoth decks.

[@YVray]

Sure, with additional Deathrattles like Sylvanas and maybe Princess Huhuran.

[@kawaiarinokripperino9719]

Nzoth is just a worse call of the wild

[@LlorracTN]

Every card in hearthstone is a worse call of the wild

[@RichiePlayz]

Can someone help me? I don't understand what he means when he puts dust cost [blank] and gold cost [blank] can you buy the cards with gold? Please explain

[@RichiePlayz]

Also what does Blackrock Mountain Wing X1 and League of Explorers x3

[@NumbFlynn]

Some of the cards are obtained through adventures, which cost gold.

[@maurdeer8407]

Dust cost is how much dust you would need to make all the cards that aren't in adventures. Gold cost is how much gold you need to get the adventures to get their respective adventure cards. Blackrock mountain x1 and League of Explorers x3 represents how many wings you need to buy of each adventure.

[@nordicfatcheese]

It's how much gold you need to buy the adventures that some of the cards are in. For example, Huge Toad is gained from League of Explorers, so he puts in the cost of the wings up to the Huge Toad.

[@EmptyPocketsStudios]

You cannot buy the exact cards with gold. The gold cost is for the Adventures, where they cost gold (or real money if you choose) to play through a couple matches to get the cards from those Adventures. An example from this deck is Quick Shot, which is a card you get by playing through the first wing of the Blackrock Mountain adventure. Huge Toad is in the same situation, which means that you get this card by playing through 3 wings of the League of Explorers adventure. The dust cost is for the other cards that you need to make the deck by crafting them with the dust. Hope that clears it up.

[@josh_on_gosh]

this deck or N'Zoth Hunter?

[@soulbeat5253]

What can I replace huge toad with?

[@kawaiarinokripperino9719]

Flame juggler

[@mivias_music]

+Atlas thank you

[@OfficialOlue]

Why no Ram Wrangler? I think it's not that bad

[@kawaiarinokripperino9719]

Its not bad but stanglethorn tiger is better

[@RparkourFTW]

what happens if you play call against kelthuzod

[@Nhoebi]

Summons Misha , Huffer and Leokk plus Kel´Thuzads cat.

[@RparkourFTW]

thanks

[@jaydd1357]

Midrange Paladin again please!

[@MrDalgerokChannel]

Replaces for dreadscale?

[@midget7867]

carrion grub

[@Viktormajstor]

fuck off

[@TheTrainerBrendan]

Any replacement for the Adventure cards?

[@domeplsffs]

Which one where those again? (sorry, have a complete collection, no clue where which card comes from. )

[@TheTrainerBrendan]

Quick Shot and Huge Toad

[@domeplsffs]

Mhm, Quick Shot is a tough one, since it's direct damage, + spot removal when dudu hits the fan. Something like hunters mark could be resoable. (not allowing direct dmg, but helping to clear against huge threats. the toad can be exchanged for any beast 2-drop (obviously the one-dmg DR is nice, but nothing a raptor could not do imho.)

[@TheTrainerBrendan]

domeplsffs Yeah, I was thinking of replacing Quick Shot with Arcane Shot or Wolfrider, and the Huge Toad with Flame Juggler since they pretty much do the same thing and I doubt I'll run out of beasts. I'll go and see what works. Thanks!

[@jayplay2413]

A good replacement for huge toad is twisted worgen, and quick shot is hard to replace but possibly another freezing trap and explosive trap

[@alex-fh4bw]

Freeze Mage next!!

[@lstern92]

Trump your chair is squeaking!! Grab some WD40, locate sound, spray, ???, PROFIT!

[@yoloswag7003]

How to replace Dreadscale?

[@DosEscorpion72]

another unleash or the 2/5

[@aaabirb]

he said it, carrion grub

[@amirkmn3771]

I started playing a week ago, now I'm rank 15 with this deck and didn't spend a dollar lol I don't have quick shot because I can't craft it is arcane shot good subtitute

[@mistershax9478]

it`s definitely not as good, you could also try an ooze, flame jugglers or traps like explosive and find out what works often..

[@midn8588]

I like calling this deck big game hunter.

[@Jadekiwi]

Oh god, Trump missing lethal always hurts me inside

[@timcrowther2735]

"The value wasn't necessary" Says the mayor of VALUE TOWN FailFish

[@qwertycal1707]

I remember when you used to make your own decks...

[@sol-gl5gl]

There are only so many decks you can "make" and still be good or better than other decks.

[@almondmilk7319]

yea self-made decks don't make it past rank 5 (self-made decks dosen't count if you take a deck and change like 5 or less cards btw)

[@PharmDiff]

Yeah, and this is Trump Teachings which is explicitly supposed to be about teaching popular archetypes.

[@CoffeePoints]

I actually already use a deck really similar to this so that's good ^;^

[@szuleckqwe]

I think Call of the Wild is pretty weak in this deck, it's actually better to play a Jeweled Scarab for example to get more tempo. Call of the Wild is fine in face hunter, but I wouldn't say the same about midrange.

[@putopanresesoxdxd3710]

What? Jewel scarab for tempo? A 2 mana 1/1 isnt really tempo and cow un face hunter sucks for the same reason king krush does, if you get to turn 8 without killing your opponent you probably lost

[@Asutora-chan]

It's terrible in face are you insane? 8 mana 5 dmg?

[@kkokay4]

no lol

[@M0torsagmannen]

lol, nice troll. looks like you got someone to actually believe you xD

[@kawaiarinokripperino9719]

Call of the wild is one of the best tempo card in the game you fokin noob

[@jumbodude1987]

Trump looked so sad when he said "I simply wanted more value but the value was unnecessary".

[@Driendel]

when i reached rank 5 with zoo o sniped a stream,and the punishment that i received from the RNG god was only finding controll warriors and never pass trought rank 5 feelsbadmen

[@Runexn]

you deseeerve it

[@lookwhatudid5095]

how about, 5 mana summon all companions that died this game?

[@kaydendubmen3330]

An absurd top deck against those pesky warriors that shove your hero up the ass is what that would be

[@kkokay4]

lol needs to be 10 mana. Imagine turn 10 you play 2 of em. That would be fucking insane.

[@lookwhatudid5095]

Morgan Murphy sorry, forgot to state that this suggestion was for a, "call of the wild", replacement card.

[@lookwhatudid5095]

Its pretty balenced I think. You use 2 animal companion a game(usually) and you could also discover another in the same game to have used 3-4! Value!! Even so 5 mana for 2, 3 mana cards (usually) is also pretty good.

[@kaydendubmen3330]

what about if you call of the wild lol

[@roxashenry8315]

make a video like this on nozoth rough

[@jundatan1654]

Good replacement for huge toad

[@MrTossFTW]

Stranglethorn Tiglore!

[@sweetlil1096]

That first hunter so unlucky all 3 joists gets kings elekk like there aren't 20 something other cards in his deck lol

[@renatosantos7475]

Trump Standard Teachings - 8 Aggro Shaman: Smorc .... Sooo, lets go to the match

[@dot9221]

Do Dreedsteed please

[@chicoritasd]

With this deck u can reach legend?

[@toptentoptens1882]

lol yes, easy af climb

[@aidendenike3759]

Currently its a bit of a hard climb because of zoo suddenly becoming popular in the rank 5 area, but its still a really strong deck and you could get to legend with just about any deck

[@NoeLPZC]

Dreadscale counters zoo pretty hard.

[@joatif1]

what does midrange mean?

[@kawaiarinokripperino9719]

Its a mix of aggro and control

[@ButterBootsHD]

Strong early game with aggro card with a mix of good control cards. Midrange Hunter is more of a tempo hunter though.

[@MrChavo85]

I just a got a dreadscale two days ago :)

[@murilorodrigues8000]

he had the lethal at turn 8 in first game

[@willh1655]

no

[@Koolciller93]

not enough mana, he needs ten

[@pontarn00]

lets not say why he is wrong and just say no

[@AaronCross760]

its wierd seeing a rank 5 hunter playing that deck.. all spells, only minions kings elykk, yogg

[@kawaiarinokripperino9719]

Many people play that on high rank

[@AaronCross760]

yogg doesnt seem good enough to build a deck around

[@kebeiwjwgseywgw5590]

9:25 SMOrc

[@YosuaPlayYGO]

i made my own midrange hunter and get 5 strike lose in asia, omg trump-san thank's , u save my rank's

[@liamjeffers4280]

When value trump and tempo trump clash XD

[@Flakehandler]

Trump admitting he didn't need to collect every ounce of value. 7:49

[@lookwhatudid5095]

Trump apologizing for making value plays on stream, GONE VIRAL, GONE SEXUAL, Pulled a GUN, 2016!

[@exmilitaramigo]

2:35

[@deedumeday518]

You should do aggro shaman Kappa

[@matiasorce5738]

That's so hard to do Kappa

[@arlantis]

I replace kodo and tiger with sylvanas and princess huhuran

[@herrienek6672]

Sylvanas is OK, Huhuran is terrible. Kodo is currently very strong against a lot of Warriors.

[@herrienek6672]

+Herrie Nek Also, the Tiger is a must. It pressures your opponent a lot and threatens to do so much damage combined with Kill Command and Houndmaster, etc.

[@E0011]

Huhuran is not terrible

[@herrienek6672]

Let's see how long usernames can get,I guess they can pretty damn long like really long Yes, she is.

[@E0011]

Herrie Nek No she's not. A 6/5 beast for 5 that has potential to proc very strong deathrattles is beyond good

[@edgarogando814]

huge toad is no where to be found

[@wiZZZard27]

Fucking hate Hunter since beta. Doesnt matter how strong it is, hunter tilts me just by itself