Therapist reacts to The Tale of Jenny and Screech by Ren

Therapist analyzes The Tale of Jenny and Screech by Ren to discuss to empower people to write their own story, to challenge individuals when they find themselves speaking the language of violence, and to remind others that context causes compassion. This trilogy by Ren is a powerful tale of intergenerational wounding and the impact it has on individuals and society.
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[@DadDaughtersandDrinks]

One of the best camera shots ever - the pan up into the spiral staircase as he sings "She never stood a chance". The spiral representing the never ending cycle of violence. Just perfect.

[@gregcampbell2977]

And the resonance too... amazing!

[@chacetheshot]

The focus change on he pinched her eyelids and pulled them up

[@petterlind]

That bit ALWAYS gets me

[@Hopz47]

Yup Devil comes to Dance ,,Pure chills down the spine ,not many artists can do that to me if any ❤

[@Winchester1973]

"Behind every explosion of violence is an implosion of pain" - wow, that's a good one!

[@gergopahollo]

I may or may not have cried a little hearing that.

[@baklivak]

An old Ren song called "Crutch". It was made before he was diagnosed so u can see his minset back then. Its an awesone and under appreciated song. I would love to hear a therapists pov of it. And his appearance and portrayal is moving

[@Dr.Brummel]

Yea, brilliant song. Absolutely underrated IMO. There are not that many reactions to it either. And it has a great no-budget video as well. 👍❤

[@ehhhh5536]

This. please do crutch!

[@raisnaix]

Big agree!

[@serendipitish]

Me too. And the song covers such a seldom-discussed aspect of a person's mental health journey. ❤

[@Emilie-one]

Yes! Please watch this. It is special.

[@jonathonthomas1255]

Ren is disturbingly good at putting on full display a completely realistic scenario that modern media tries to avoid talking about

[@thanossnap4170]

100 % agree

[@twistedpixel756]

and that's his point when he chose include the quote from that article at the end of the first two songs, "it's such a shame". it's his unspoken criticism on how we hear stories like this every single day, and all we offer are our condolences.

[@jonathonthomas1255]

@@twistedpixel756 I absolutely love it and you put that so much more eloquently than I could have

[@jeffwilson3205]

You said it all. To Ren’s motivation for doing this, he said that it’s too easy for people to turn away from situations like this…he wants people to confront the harsh reality of intergenerational violence. It’s not easy to watch, and Ren said it’s not easy for him to perform. You reacted to the moment at the beginning of Violet’s tale where Ren the artist has to pause and gather himself so that he could perform the song. In the old tradition of Bards, that’s called putting on the Minstrel’s Mask in preparation for telling a horrible story. He said it takes a piece of him as well. This song makes me 100% want to see a Screech and help him, or find a Jenny or Violet and help them find their voice (I have 2 teenage daughters). So mission accomplished. Think of what a great writer and storyteller you’d have to be to create this song and not have it come off as exploitative…he was so careful about so many details…but one that really stood out to me was that he never put himself in the first person “shoes” of Jenny and Violet…and only told their story through narration, while he did assume the roles of Screech and Stevie, because he actually can understand their lived experience. This guy is doing art, music, filmmaking, snd storytelling at a completely different level. Also, you may enjoy knowing that he actually appears to be a sweet goofball in real life…but he’s lived through such heaviness that he just seems to have a different level of power.

[@jorice5528]

Love this comment so much 👏👏👏🥹🥰

[@MichaelRMcCartyX8]

Amazing and great detail comment. Thank you. 😮💯

[@celtzen]

Amazing comment

[@GarnetJ]

💯 agree! Ren has experienced so much tragedy of his own and yet has found a way to channel that into not only incredible art but a captivating story that leads us towards empathy and compassion for each person in the story. Imagine how much different our world could be if we could see past the pain with eyes of compassion and know where to go for help.

[@thegingermenace8593]

I just wanted to tell you how much your comment means to me. I think his goof ball personality at 34 years old is because in his 20's he was so sick. Now we get to see his bubbly personality! He's very silly & fun, even some Easter eggs in his music make me laugh! You hit the nail on the head speaking about him. He's also very kind in case you wanted to know. ; )

[@justinec3294]

''Violence is a cycle'', than proceed to Violet's tale. Your character analysis is just precious, thank you!

[@alancraig782]

A subtle but powerful line that hits is "turning to the doctor Violet broke her silence and she cried if I'm to die, please let my babies stay alive". The whole way through the song she's silent right through the worst moments of her life until literally no one left is able to speak up for her and she breaks the silence. This reaction was awesome and picked up on the ending bombshell beautifully 👌

[@vanrosewrites]

I'm a CSA survivor and Ren has actually inspired me to share my own story. I'll be forever grateful to him for helping me find my voice.

[@Fenthule]

same.

[@sirweebs2914]

I googled what it means and I found out you are a survivor of Community-supported agriculture, my condoleces.

[@vanrosewrites]

@@sirweebs2914 Thank you, it's tough living in this soiled world.

[@sirweebs2914]

@@vanrosewrites :D

[@syyneater]

I just love this interaction, you all are awesome!

[@KarbonSym]

“Violence is a cycle” She just foreshadowed the whole trilogy without even realizing it to its full extent during Screech’s Tale. Taylor you crushed it yet again, absolutely love your takes on the reaction/breakdowns you do.

[@Januaribarn]

One thing we do learn about Violet is that she deeply loved her child(ren), so much that it makes her break her silence and fight for them ❤️ that’s the detail that always gets me emotional every single time !

[@Mr.Ekshin]

What got me was the moment where we figure out that Jenny is also 14 years old... and then realizing that she's already an experienced prostitute living on the streets.

[@E-d1d3]

We get told a ton: 14 years old, high healed shoes, walked that street a thousand tines...

[@Januaribarn]

@@E-d1d3 that’s true! But those things we learn about Jenny and not Violet who I was referring to :) but let’s say your comment included what we get told about Violet instead then your point still stands *but* how much she loves her babies is the only thing we learn from her personally as that is the only thing she actually expresses throughout her tale, the rest we learn from a narrators pov :)

[@elektrovert]

"If we don't have compassion we likely don't have enough context" - so, so true!

[@75jvs]

At the end of Screech's tale: "Violence creates violence, it is a cycle!" Me: "Ow you have no idea how big this cycle is going to get..."

[@chaoticwonder3278]

I am utterly gobsmacked. This young man continues to impress me every time I hear more of his music and his story.

[@bradspunaugle8180]

That is a very profound statement and I 💯% agree it's getting so thick you can almost feel it in the air

[@Monica-sw9ld]

😢😢😢

[@BreCarter-o3e]

I literally said the same thing lol

[@LudmilaT.]

I interpret Violet as metaphorical. Allegedly, Ren wrote the first two tales based on an actual incident of a young boy killing a young girl and then getting shot. In the real case (if this story is true), it's unlikely they were related. But they were likely both children of generational trauma.

[@bronsonstrock593]

Some promotional content Ren released on TikTok suggested that Screech's girlfriend was cheating on him with Patrick in that moment, which is why she said she was busy and why Patrick wasn't home earlier.

[@TheHosny]

THE PLOT THICKENS

[@sketchtherapy1218]

i remember that

[@sharoncarlisle9453]

I believe that comes from the video titled "Screech's Instagram Stories." It also suggests that Screech was trying to steal money to get away from his abusive father.

[@sketchtherapy1218]

@@sharoncarlisle9453 accurate

[@GarnetJ]

@@sharoncarlisle9453yes, I was going to recommend “Screech’s Instagram Stories” for those who want more insight into what prompted the events of that fateful night. I often wonder how their lives might have been different if Jenny and Screech had been able to grow up together. So I think it also exposes challenges in the foster care system that would separate twins at birth and not even give them the opportunity of that bond.

[@HarleyQ14]

"If you don't feel compassion, then you're missing context" - that is a super powerful sentiment and pairs so perfectly with this trilogy. Thank you for connecting to these songs.

[@robinronnebrink3612]

When I read the lyrics, Jennys story, at least to me become alot darker. Like a fourteen year old girl walking down the a street she has walked a thousand times before. She is dressed in high heel shoes, she want to escape. The undertones of that just give me Chills. The video really shows traumas of violence and how people deal with it diffrently.

[@staceyjayneplatt9527]

I actually think Jenny was a prostitute because as a fellow Brit that is how we would describe a lady of the night xx❤❤🇬🇧🇺🇸

[@lfcmatt]

I always thought that Jenny was kind of a "sex worker" because who wear high heels shoes and walk the same street at night? Few people notice that but maybe I'm wrong

[@joshuawiedenbeck6944]

​@@lfcmattYou are exactly correct. Jenny fell back on what was familiar to her. Being taken advantage of.

[@266226]

@@lfcmatt Ren has confirmed that that was the intent, so you are correct.

[@smms905]

Street walkers are kinda a euphemism for sex workers too...

[@scottywalknroll]

Whos Violet? Those are now infamous words 💯🍻☘️✌️

[@williamkeith8740]

I was waiting for her to say it - didn't disappoint.

[@MrPhoKingAwesome]

Everyone I've watched says "wait, who's violet, why is there a third song?" and then they hear the end....

[@Alrion1704]

@@MrPhoKingAwesome yes, its a fu*** up world.

[@colinthompson2462]

It's my favorite part! " Who's Violet?✌🇨🇦

[@colinthompson2462]

What if at 16 she was already pregnant and was made to move out on her own? Great reaction, thanks. ✌🇨🇦

[@ehhhh5536]

The kids grew up without a family as a result of the violence and then the cycle continues. Jenny dies in silence just trying to survive. Screech dies inflicting violence. You're made to experience generational trauma in the space of 3 songs. It's insane how great this is as a piece of art.

[@sketchtherapy1218]

Yeah Stevie went to jail.

[@joryjennings7527]

The kids In reality would have been put in the custody of their respective government's foster care system because like the other fella mentioned, that prick Stevie is most definitely locked up which would explain them not knowing each other the night they died; they got split up.

[@chuckh5405]

20 seconds in, and I love this channel even more. It's so hard to find anyone who listens to the group and pivots so quickly in their approach.

[@HeartSupport]

We love you guys

[@chuckh5405]

And then watching/listening to you process and summarize the tales so efficiently. Just one of the 10 is tough enough to break. The cycle is viscious and a million times tougher when it becomes the norm.

[@LeeannG]

It was for your own good! ❤

[@Hoop_23]

The group needs to chill. All separate would have been fine, it's how Ren released them originally.

[@dropbarracuda]

​@@Hoop_23​ true, originally they were released separately, however once Violet's tale was released, it changes the narrative in very powerful ways. Ren knew this, and released the trilogy together in one video because of it. The revelation at the end changes up everything and injects empathy into the flood of emotions experienced through Violet's Tale. Violet's Tale is so powerful that many people that dont have Jenny and Screech's Tale fresh in their minds miss the end completely, and are just left with the horror of Violet's Tale. There's reason why Ren marked the Trilogy altogether as the Official Music Video. Respectfully. 🤓

[@lulumeto]

This is such an insightful reaction. Ive been a 911 dispatcher for almost 20 years. Long enough to see (hear) generational violence. I'm also a domestic violence survivor and because Ren was so spot on with the realism of this, I worried about him. "Do you think I want to do this Violet?" Is a statement that comes out of many domestic abusers. My hope is that someone that is an abuser see's this video and now knows how appalling it is. I also hope that someone that is going through domestic violence can see how they need to get out of the situation before it's to late. Im so glad that shortly after I discovered The Tales of Jenny and Screech I also found Ren's 1 million subscribers video that showed the caring person that he is. If you haven't seen that I highly recommend it ❤❤

[@hannahdickenson3346]

One thing that really hurts my heart about this story is that Violet broke her silence to save her children only for them to meet the same fate by the same cycle

[@philk9227]

What an incredible heartfelt reaction and the most incredible breakdown of the three tales I have heard. A Shakespearean tale of intergenerational violence told by a modern day bard. Thank you for the compassionate reaction and for just being you and doing such important much needed work.

[@raisnaix]

I really can't put to words how much I am loving your channel's content - and the grace with which you handled the fervor of Ren's community (of which I am a part). Keep doing what you're doing! It's great and it helps. "Silence feels like a threat to those who are violent" is something people in my house needed to hear.

[@bradleycampbell7256]

Best breakdown of “The Tale of Jenny and Screech” in all of KZbin. Brilliant.

[@GrimpenWard]

I appreciate how much attention you gave to Screech, and discussed how a little love and conversation may have saved him.

[@ubu03]

Out of all the reactors to this trio, you are one of the very few that got the last line and showed how it hits.

[@liljohn118th]

I don't know if you watch The Charismatic Voice, but Elizabeth did a reaction to this song and when that last line hit I swear you could see her heart break in that moment.

[@jfish67]

Strawhat Dinasty twins were so destroyed, they had to take time and make a continuation of the reaction later. I'm not surprised.

[@chroma9008]

'Violence transfers the pain to someone else,' first time I hear this. Powerful re-framing to reflect on where it happens in our own lives. Thanks.

[@Vixxing21]

Bard, composer, rapper, beatboxer, EXCELLENT singer and guittarist AND an AWESOME actor! What cant Ren do? :O :O :O

[@iancollins65]

I am a licensed foster parent and have taken courses on trauma based care, and ACEs is a huge part of what’s discussed. Your perspective on these three videos is different than any reaction I have seen so far, because you are literally explaining trauma from a therapist perspective and how these adverse experiences can completely mold the person forever. I have also learned through TBRI (trust based relational intervention) that trauma physically changes the make up of a person’s brain. It’s very hard to reverse the behaviors that come from these changes and the physical look of the brain mostly stays the same. It takes a very long time and consistency to get the trust of someone who has been traumatized this severely. Thanks for all the insight you offer. It’s a breath of fresh air to get this kind of conversation.

[@mattmorrisson9607]

Ren has the unique ability to bring tears to my eyes with his music, and your reaction only amplified that ability with this song. Thank you for your words.

[@StefanVillkatt]

I was happy you took Jenny separatly; it made you see and talk about things other's don't. So thank you.

[@daniels1986]

The line at the end is so insanely good. „It happened on these very streets”, they died where they were born. „Lying side by side”, because when they died they also lied side by side, just one street apart. So poetic.

[@erikainharmony4465]

"Compassion creates context." What a beautiful message. I think this world needs more context. I think this world could use more compassion. 💜

[@MegaGalaxyGames]

The realization that drops over your face when you find out about "the twins" & their names is the reason why I watch the reactions to this trilogy of songs over and over, Such a fantastic story teller is Ren, I could listen to him for days and weeks and months and years and still want more :D Great reaction, My first time here btw, subbed :D

[@nimajneB621]

Such powerful psychological insights here. I love your passion to what you do. Please keep doing it. I sat here sobbing whilst watching it even thought I’ve listened to it so many times 😭 Ren’s stoytelling abilities are phenomenal

[@allanhindmarch7323]

I've seen dozens of reactions to this tragic tale and yours is my favourite. Being that you're a mental health professional, it was interesting to see you progress through the tale to finally realise the most tragic end and see your emotions come through as well as your professional opinion. Good to see people still feeling. It's a very powerful piece of music and Ren is quite the musical genius!

[@mikestubblefield4978]

As someone who grew up in a house with an alcoholic and abusive stepfather, I can tell you that it doesn’t have to be carried forward. I did not grow up to be abusive.

[@thanossnap4170]

You are a champion, Mike. That could easily destroy a lot of people. But not you. Thanks for sharing, and good on you for punching the cycle in the face

[@marie-annem9485]

You are a cycle breaker and a truly resilient soul. Thank you for sharing this powerful message.

[@TheRealityleak]

I think Jenny and Screech grew up in the system (Stevie would have been jailed for murdering Violet) and if they were separated by the system they'd maybe not have known about each other. Your insight into this makes it one of the most thoughtful and educated reactions to this trilogy I have seen (and I've seen a lot). Sincerely, thank you.

[@HeartSupport]

In hindsight you're totally right 🤣 My brain couldn't connect these dots fast enough in the moment. Thank you so much for your support. So glad you're here :) - Taylor

[@chrisstallings8381]

I have watched dozens and dozens of reactions to this trilogy and yours from the psychological stand point is the best and really offered some insight to this story and I was wanting to have a better understanding….so thank you. REN brings attention just as I can tell you do too deep emotional trauma and gives people confidence to get the support and help they deserve.

[@geralynsteppe5974]

I've watched hundreds of reactions to this, and I think this one is my favorite. Thank you for your heart to educate and help people.

[@AlexofZippo]

Genuinely, I feel like the biggest artistic flex Ren pulled is letting us feel our complacency. Cause we hear Jenny and Screeches stories and they're stories we've seen on TV before, in movies before. We know this violence, it's not as shocking to us as it probably should be. And then comes Violet's tale. And we're suckered in by the first two songs making us believe it's a play on a morality tale. Then Violet's tale asks us how we feel about *ourselves* that the first two songs don't make us feel like the third one. Why we suddenly *care* that screech was 14, that Jenny was walking home alone in heels at 14. We care at the end in a way that we didn't at the start. To me, as an artistic expression it's fantastic. Truly one of the best pieces of art made in ages.

[@ultraredd]

I've seen reactions to The Tales more times than I can count. Your interpretation and insight is the most comprehensive I've seen so far. Thank you! Subscribed 🖤

[@rpmcmurphy5482]

I literally have 50 of Ren's songs in my Playlist. I cannot choose a favorite. Each one is better than the next. Keep rolling out Ren reactions. You will not regret a note. 🎶

[@taz454]

That was a great breakdown. Do people that do terrible things deserve forgiveness? Maybe, maybe not. Do they deserve some understanding if that person has been broken from an early age? Possibly. Its a difficult subject. Often violence breeds violence and damaged people, we should remember that. Good stuff, much love from England ✌️

[@Emilie-one]

I am thrilled you are doing the three. I didn’t watch yesterday figuring I would wait until all three were done. My OCD won’t allow me to watch the unfinished works lol. Thank you for doing all three!!! ❤❤❤off to watch now

[@thefloridamimi9278]

Same. There’s some who have reacted to this trilogy one at a time, and I couldn’t do it 😂. I had to wait until they had finished, and posted all three before I could watch. And the few that did the trilogy completely out of order (one watched Violet’s Tale first) nearly made my head explode 😂. Couldn’t even click on that one. 😂

[@Telaseth]

I rarely comment, but I wanted to say that I've really been enjoying your channel and content and am very appreciative of your insights. Please continue providing your gracious takes for some of our favorite music that has helped all of us. My own personal headcannon (which is in no way confirmed by Ren) is that Richard the officer was also the first responder for Violet before she got to the hospital. There's no mention of it at all, just a thought that I had that compliments the full-circle nature of the Trilogy.

[@BreCarter-o3e]

That would b crazy n definitely something he'd do

[@kit.1402]

as a follower of ren's music, i have watched so many people react to the tale of jenny and screech. but i feel like with your psychoanalysis and how you are able to analyze the thought pattern of the music and the videography rather than just the lyrics, i feel like you are one of few reactors who have been able to fully appreciate and understand all ren's ideas and the effort he put into making all the different emotions and metaphors come to life.

[@GillianParkinson]

Wow, you are truly amazing - your commentary is SO HELPFUL and constructive and everything! I have been in therapy for 6 years with CPTSD (& other "disorders") from childhood trauma - you absolutely help cement what I've learned, remind and affirm I am making progress. DBT, EMDR, CBT, talk and compassionate therapy - albeit it slow, are so incredibly useful, intense, painful, unexplainable painful at times, but so worth it. Thank you 🙏🏻 ❤

[@danielburrells2055]

As soon as I saw the length of your previous video. I thought oh no she’s going to get hammered!!! I didn’t watch the video as I knew you would do this so watching now. It’s nice your actually reading comments and listening to us RENagades. Keep it up. Love from 🇬🇧

[@BillyVatcher]

“Behind every explosion of violence is an implosion of pain.” Great insight which I will attempt to remember

[@bill2472]

Im glad you enjoyed it, the moment you get that they were all related and the penny drops is such a credit to how Ren writes.

[@indoctrinationtheory1468]

I always love Ren's guitar work, but never more so than in the intro to Screech's tale. The first part is slower and contemplative - as though Screech is in shock, thinking about what he's done. Then we have the faster part, which instantly makes me think of Screech fleeing from the scene of the crime, running until he's worn out and breathless. Setting the scene through music, without a single word.

[@serendipitish]

Love the way you described it, I've always felt that desperation, listening to Screech's intro.

[@robmullins]

In Screech's tale, I love how his vocals are intentionally loud and in disharmony. It screams Screech's inner challenges.

[@celtzen]

ok a purely personal amazement note... I can't walk down stairs in the dark when all my attention is on the stairs... and Ren does it while playing something stunningly beautiful on a guitar, live, with a camera recording him...

[@ItsMeBliz]

You are very quickly becoming one of my favourite reactors to Rens art. Your amazingly warm/kind personality just oozes through the camera and I am totally here for it. It is genuinely a pleasure to watch your channel 😊

[@jasonstewart3996]

I'm sure since jenny and screeches mom was killed by their father they grew up in separate foster homes. And like you were saying its generational. Jenny grew up quite like violet and screeck grew up violent like stevie

[@cardheon6091]

I just wanna say this you are amazing as a person I can hear how much you genuinely care so thank you

[@mikepiccione886]

Thank you thank you for going back and doing it as a Complete work❤😊

[@rhettbaldwin8320]

30:30 they likely grew up separate in the system, after all their father killed their mother.

[@dipf7705]

I wish we all had a dollar for every 'ren reaction video'

[@gearybmxer1]

Jumping in here as I make my way through your Ren reactions, a couple of vastly unappreciated songs by him I think is extremely important and beneficial is Dominos and It's Alright , both from the Freckled Angels album. Would love to see you react to these ❤

[@malcolmjeffery8939]

I'm a 73 year old man from the UK, and I just wanted to thank you for putting into words the emotions and feelings that I have when listening to Ren. Please keep up the good work x

[@lokibrux]

And thank you for being an awesome content creator. I for one appreciate it very much.

[@janegill8990]

There are so many layers to this. When he says 'its such a shame' i beleive its a comentary on how us as a society reacts to these situations. We read these stories every day, they're broadcast to us on the news, documentaries, tictok crime content. And we all gloss over to some extent or another. With the phrase 'its such a shame' or some iteration of. Even it not in the moments afterwards, its our conclusions we make to be able to carry on with our lives without it affecring us emotionally. Ren, I beleive is highlighting this. The societal need to diminish its impacts whislt holding up a mirror and making us face it.

[@briancaster2876]

31:41 No, the first time i heard screeches tale i understood him. Even as i hated him. Theres no excuse for what he did, there are however, explanations. And if you can understand WHY someone did something, well then, maybe you can prevent it in the future. And to be clear, i hate screech as much, or more than, i hate myself. But i do UNDERSTAND him. You dont have to agree with why someone acted HOW they did to understand WHY they acted like they did.

[@titntin5178]

Thank you for listening to us. I think you can probably see why this particular trilogy needs to be in one sitting, it wouldn't convey the same message if the pieces were separated in time. I can reassure you that though Ren has some other tracks in multiples (Money game 1 to 3 and Love music 1-4), they are not 'bardcore' stories and can be enjoyed one by one. You're reactions are excellent and insightful. I was not subbed before, but I am now, thank you.

[@ETucker1967]

“What in the Shakespearean tragedy“ are the exact words that fell out of my mouth, the first time I saw these tales. When watching Ren I’ve often thought that Shakespeare would gladly clear the stage of his players to make time for Ren to perform. Really appreciate your reaction and ability to empathize with all of cast, including Screech. I’m a student of the teachings of Dr. Marshall Rosenberg, with his work in NonViolent Communications: A Language of Compassion. It wouldn’t surprise me if you were familiar with it. If not, I believe you would be grateful to add it to your knowledge base. Love what you do here in building this connective community for growth and healing. You matter and what you are doing makes a positive difference in our lives. 🫶

[@broughy23]

Someone has already said it, but you would learn a lot about Ren from his song "Crutch." It's an older song of his from before his diagnosis.

[@goatsiahthelegend]

I’ve watched several reviewers react to this Tale, and yours is the one I want to show everyone. The compassion you have and respect for the music is palatable. Thank you for this, it’s extremely respectable. Keep up the great work

[@kamunda13]

Wow. You nailed it. As a Ren fan I was waiting for you to say how good Ren was. But you saw it from your perspective and saw through it straight away and told your truth as a therapist. Your empathy is very commendable. What I mean is, I was expecting a critique of Ren when what I got was a compassionate view on intergenerational domestic violence. Thank you.

[@katiehetherington5829]

I first found Ren through Violets Tale and just couldn’t interact with it even tho I thought it was amazing, because too much felt so familiar. But I’m so glad I looked through the pain and saw what else he has to offer, because he is amazing. Thankyou so much for this ❤️

[@Cannabian]

If you keep adding chains your gonna become "Misses T (herapist)."

[@Scoggie]

"Ren I'm upset" Me: Ohhhh honey just wait.

[@coleeg69]

Crutch ft bibi for sure! For Joe you gotta do too lol Violets Tale hurts me. Great beautiful music as always by Ren! Modern Shakespeare. Great breakdown!

[@dropbarracuda]

Before even starting, YOU. ARE. AMAZING. Thank you for doing them all together. 🙏🏻❤️

[@slayinMonsters]

Knowing what happens and just saying to myself the whole time "oh just wait, it gets SO much worse."

[@aimeeparrott9204]

I'm a survivor of CSA. The first time I heard, "Every night he'd tuck her tight, but never left the room" I had to pause the video because it hit me so hard. Most reactors don't get what that means... at least not on the first listen.

[@Antonino-i2v]

I have listened to this song maybe 20 times, the original and the rest reactions. It never occurred to me to leave a comment until this lady made me realized that I am a violent person. So...after crying for some time I know now I need to seek help and I will. Thank you kindly for the way you interpreted this song.

[@tomsawyer6324]

Sam is just a genius as well as Ren

[@swaggermcjagger6466]

I think an alternative storyline that would have made this trilogy more heartbreaking would be if Stevie (the boyfriend) had turned his life around after the death of Violet and the birth of the twins. What if instead of the officer being named Richard, he’d been named Stevie? It would have been really tragic if he’d not only killed his son through the violence he’d created, though without knowledge, while his son (who took after him) had just killed his own sister (who took after violet) only a street away all while he was patrolling. I think it would have been the cherry on top to tie all of it together, eluding to the violence and tragedy that was this families tale.

[@tfodthogtmfof7644]

My father was a violent man from a line of violent men. I remember my father telling me his nose had been broken 3 times, twice was by his dad. My father struggled to break the cycle but he did a good job. I have had to struggle to do as well and live up to his example. He taught me unconditional love. He taught me respect was earned and given not coerced or demanded. He taught me that sometimes we make self sacrifices for others for no other reason than we can and we care. I truly miss him. Sometimes breaking the cycle takes generations of effort as well.

[@johnvanderwouwer6843]

Great reaction and insightfull. On a sidenote, Patrick cannot open the door because he is with Screech's girlfriend. There is a vid from Ren replaying the scene before Screech's attack on Jenny where this is played out. Ren is an absolute master at creating tapestries of art and music and theatre in one.

[@drewlester4313]

2 0 0 5 is the year. You can google 2005, Paddington, murder and read the story.

[@andrewdavidson665]

Jeez that's an awful story...

[@kevinmundis1281]

I just have to first of all say that you are awesome. I love hearing you speak about things like this. Your comment about if we don’t have compassion, we need more context (I probably messed that up), but it was awesome. Thank you for doing the whole trilogy. You did awesome. Thanks for what you do. 🤗

[@gracesprocket7340]

Jenny walked the streets, and had done 'at least a thousand times before'. Being optimistic she was just a hair under 15 - which would make her barely 12 when she first entered sex-work... at worst a year younger. Violet was fast tracked on the council housing list (rather than fostered), which at 16 implicates pregnancy as a possible cause... making Stevie not the father, maybe... and his jealously in the face of a pregnancy not his, and silence if not reasonable at least understandable... As for Babe and Patrick, both unavailable (Patrick is not at home, and Babe is home, but busy....) There is an implication that this is not entirely unrelated, in the wider 'tales' setting. Watch the 'trailer' for the series "Instagram Stories: Screech's Tale", for more context for the fictionalised Screech, and his friends... the first two were written in response to a police spokesperson's rather lame statement in the police involved shooting of a 14 year old murder suspect in the botched mugging and fatal stabbing of a young sex worker - Violet was added post-hoc and they were made twins as a recasting of the fictionalised characters in an orgy of Shakesperean Tragedy...

[@baphomuttt]

as someone who was subjected to abuse as a child, I vowed to myself that I would break the cycle. I don't want my daughter to grow up to see any of the terrible things I did. it takes a lot of self awareness and reflection, daily reminders of what I want for her.

[@zaphandar]

If we don't have compassion we just lack context.. I love this. I will use this. Thankyou :)

[@saphronedwards1558]

I had all the ACE’s except for incarceration. Ended up in an abusive relationship, hes in jail now, police took it out of my hands when i nearly had the same fate as violet. I was angry when they arrested him but im happy now that im free. I went back multiple times, its so hard to leave that part of your life when for so long its been your normal.

[@sixpents]

I have heard this song enough that it does not effect me the same way as it originally did. I was able to cry listening to this song again through watching your reaction to this song an understanding your perspective. I appreciate the understanding you provide to this song .

[@stevevaldivia231]

This kid is saving lives. We hand out Grammys to the wrong people

[@CaaneHiggins]

He is such a lyrical genius and a great story teller. As if you close your eye you see the story as it happens ❤.

[@ericchannell1206]

Every time you paused during violets tale Im sat here thinking "oh, just wait, it gets sadder" That song is just one blow to the heart after another

[@colemoles7517]

Love your reactions so much! This was such a heartbreaker the first time we all watched this triology. Please PLEASE react to Money game by ren parts 1,2 and 3 (all together), it’s another heartbreaker and lesson :)

[@MmelancholyDaze]

5:40 having seen Violet's Tale I find this observation so interesting! I just assumed the obvious, a freeze response, but maybe there's more to it than that. Ren has such a talent with storytelling and subtle details!

[@sebastiengermain267]

Thank you for your reaction to this trilogy. It truly is a heartbreaking story. Something I'm realizing now in my early thirties is that it's often only the "big traumas" that are talked about, whereas all the "small traumas" that people experience are left invalidated or pushed aside. I've finally decided to begin therapy for the first time to address an entire lifetime of little traumas that have left me broken, unseen, and unheard. This is why context is so so important because we can never judge anybody else until we've been in their shoes.

[@My_Work_Here_is_Done..]

What you say really hits home with me. I grew up knowing violence, nothing really extreme, but far more than a child should (I realised later). A simple childish action, mistake or even a presumed mistake/action led to threats or an actual assault on me. Anyway, I grew up to become violent myself. I hurt a lot of people. Some badly. It was always other males of a similar age or older, and some were willing participants, others were not. Some of my friends committed murder, whilst another friend was murdered themself. Many more died early from drugs or car accidents. Eventually my behaviour took me to prison (a few times), but I managed to turn things around. I went to university, got a career, married and had 4 children. I promised myself I’d break that cycle, as violence begets violence, and I have never once been that way with my children and our relationship is amazing. I simply don’t understand how people hurt children. However, it’s still a daily job keeping that lid closed on how I react to others outside my family when ‘tested’. The potential to do these things never truly goes away I guess, but it becomes more manageable. Maybe age helps.

[@dreawearsshoes]

Shakespearean tragedy about genetic trauma. This is such an intense piece. The camera angle of screech on the ground from his point of view, putting us in his place 💔

[@GhostofTUHHH]

I didnt watch your first post of just Jenny because I was going to wait for all 3 to come out to watch together, i'm laughing at the response but so happy you and your team corrected and went in this direction. Love your channel, ty for always being here for your viewers. Much love

[@BlackSheriff84]

You don't know how many times I've watched this, and it still makes me all goose pimply and teary-eyed! 😂😭 #Nostalgia #Feelings #Tears

[@BenjaminFranceMusic]

As a fellow therapist, I love your passion around this, especially at the end of Jenny's Tale. Thank you, Taylor, for sharing your impressions of Ren's art!

[@patrickquinlan3056]

I'm so happy you listened to us. I knew you would get the twist at the end. This tale is so disturbing some don't realize what just happened. I had to watch it twice because I got it in my head that "Two zero zero five" was a phone number because it resembled an old landline number. A friend of mine whose partner tried to kill her 20 years ago zoned out during Violet's Tale and she didn't get it at first. Thank you for doing this reaction.

[@briankejlberg7563]

The biggest take from this: When we don't have compassion, we probably lack context!

[@davidwichlidal5063]

I was abused (beaten) as a child. I am now 53 i have had my personal demons. But I chose a long time ago I vowed not to be what I was shown. I want to be better. Now at 53 I have great relationships and care for others. and am at the best place. Not all victims stay victims or choose to make others victims. I am writing this not to brag but to show there is hope and not everyone abused repeats the violence. No matter your past it is still your decision what the future is

[@TealOmen]

Ask yourself why Jenny, a girl of 14 was walking the streets late at night , a street she walked a thousand times before and why screech thought she was a lady rather than a young girl. Ren based this on a story head read about a young sex worker killed by a young teen. The police reported at the time it was “such a shame”. As you said Jenny was quiet like her mother, screech violent like his father. Ren also knows of people who have experienced domestic violence and wanted to shine a light on it as only Ren can. Also a RENeverse rumour has it the reason Patrick was not home at number 54 was because he was with screeches girlfriend and that's why she was busy !