Heated debate on gender pronouns and free speech in Toronto

University of Toronto professors Jordan Peterson and A.W. Peet discuss the use of alternate pronouns on campus for those who say words like 'he, she, him or her' don't represent them accurately
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[@lengerer]

Here in Australia we have this sorted. We call everyone mate

[@ployplunder3109]

lol. Can confirm.

[@walterveliz4361]

Do you guys have trans ?? If the answer is yes , just give it some time they'll want to be different

[@dividesandconquer990]

@@walterveliz4361 bloke or sheila or even half n half, you can still chuck mate around.

[@willmollard9078]

Walter Veliz lol they accept mate hope that doesn’t change

[@vipsvipsa1330]

Stolen comment

[@bluemagic3800]

The reason this guy is so popular is because our world has gone mad and he's saying what most of us are thinking but very eloquently

[@GreatwhiteShark88]

Exactly

[@nutmeg8399]

You got it! This is all madness. It's unhealthy and dangerous.

[@xondeez757]

the worst part about is that polticians who have no idea what "gender studies" are just listen to people who call themselves "expert" and they just pass of these laws thinking it makes them look like they're the good guys protecting minorities even if its absurd

[@odin-fr9et]

Not really he said he used those words if somonea said

[@girth_goblin]

Lmao his speech is incoherent and his views are Christian conservatism. You just like him because he makes your bigotry sound fancy

[@poohead-vt5wl]

If you force someone to speak someone's "preferred pronouns" that is completely infringing on freedom of speech.

[@aquaticats7118]

Do you think it is acceptable for a white person to say the “n” word? Or to swear in front of children?

[@beeport]

@@aquaticats7118 As was already pointed out in the debate it is not the same thing. Forcing the use pronouns outside the norms for a given language is compelled speech. No one is suggesting you be forced to use the racial epithet "n" word. Not allowing it's use is anti-discrimination and the opposite of forcing you to use it.

[@collections3119]

​@@aquaticats7118How about if we tell the trans people to get lost. It would be win/win. They won't have to be misgendered, and normal people won't have to put up with the audacity of a group of prima donnas trying to dictate our language

[@philipmcdaniel7104]

It is also accepting a delusional fallacy as "factual" or correct, which is wrong!

[@shir7786]

@@aquaticats7118 yes

[@last1000]

The way that woman rolls her eyes at everything Peterson says just shows you how much "tolerance" they have for people who disagree with them. At least Peterson appeared to try to listen to her point of view in case she had a valid point to make.

[@SirSmokeAlot8866]

Was that a she?? 😂

[@carlosdcardona5676]

​@@SirSmokeAlot8866Perhaps it was a they, or an it or maybe just a clown🤨

[@wassupbud1232]

My $5 bill identifies as a $100 dollar bill yet no one accepts it. Discrimination.

[@laalaag2auntyayag776]

Lol, sound liberal logic there bud!!! 😂

[@Respect2theFallen]

Lmfao

[@joepearson6963]

im so using that quote. thanks so much

[@wassupbud1232]

@@joepearson6963 You're welcome

[@yanethczech9883]

lol, love it!

[@MsCarlota19]

I've noticed those who say "be kind" are often quite vindictive in reality.

[@ThomasBolt]

The trans non bianary on the right reminds me of Ellen...

[@WeissLiebe]

And those who ask for tolerance and acceptance. Give cero tolerance and acceptance to everyone and themselves

[@PM-wp6ze]

I tell people “just because you’re a nice person does not mean you’re a good person”

[@chris432t6]

Everyone has a hypocrite in them imo.

[@bearskyshebearsky]

@@ThomasBolt and Ellen is a man !

[@FichenScheiss1]

Jordan is a common sense intellect who speaks the truth. Keep fighting for those of us who agree with you. You are a true patriot of inductive reasoning and logic for Canada. We need more gents like your self. Very classy and straight forward approach to various subject matters.

[@FichenScheiss1]

Awesome gent 👍😎. Far Left wing ideologues are trying to destroy multiple societies.

[@FichenScheiss1]

No place for Marxism in the world. These people should know better with past history.

[@FichenScheiss1]

A Transgender person will always be what they were originally. There will always be two genders. It's a biological fact.

[@adtjtjdjsj]

​@@FichenScheiss1Where did you see marxism though?

[@lizahoaran8892]

I am very grateful to Dr Peterson for standing up for what he believes on, even though he says he speaks for himself, he is actually fighting to save many children and young adults from having to learn absolutely irrelevant things, like made up pronouns. I wish more of us had his courage.

[@Rinma99]

Hes lucky he is living in times where common sense is percived as something we need to teach our kids so it seems talking logic is a feat of bravery

[@matthewlevey8183]

Meanwhile here in Africa, Students fighting to have a better education

[@georgioberoni1957]

Haha! You need to become shwe and hwe now. Forget results and try to have more genders instead.

[@paragonsmith842]

Yes it’s sad especially since these idiotic confused people are labeled as progressive... when there are real problems that still exists and are prevalent today. Yet over entitled morons want to fight over what words people address them by when people are still starving. (Progression)

[@lavendersky8917]

You said that.

[@eyadsy6208]

America has run out of problems And this the type of stuff they want to project on other cultures

[@DatHombre]

@@eyadsy6208 *The west as a whole

[@johnward9407]

MY rights DON'T end where your feelings begin.

[@billyjoeperkins8145]

Thanks SIR John!

[@geraldervin2128]

Very well said, you cleared this rediculas discussion up in one sentence!!

[@largol33t1]

And that's what the dirtbag left want: everything in government is going to be determined by someone's feelings.

[@itsokjared9044]

You're God damn right sir!!!

[@robertarnold779]

Says it all, simple and elegant.

[@user-us7kb8ml7g]

"I am transgender and non binary." What self contradictory BS is this?

[@user-tp4bo8iu7p]

nonbinary falls under the transgender "umbrella"

[@eugenemuntslag7002]

It is called them not knowing what these words mean

[@ImTheShowman]

That was literally my first thought when I heard that statement

[@ightimmaheadout290]

Smartest radical leftist

[@user-kd7qu5hj5q]

It's not contradictory.

[@vicflrs]

15:39 this is pure gold, not because you think about something it means it’s automatically right. It need to be said, to exist in the real world to be put to the test

[@rakantion]

WTF IS ZE AND ZER WHAT IS WRONG WITH THIS GENERATION?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

[@deltagearadvanced5140]

@@joshuasexton4170 The thing is pronouns are not respect. You cannot demand respect it is earned, if you force respect it's no longer respect its subjugation. If someone chooses not to use your pronouns then fine, move on and ignore them they aren't hurting you so just move on. The point is less than 1% of the population shouldn't get a law forcing the other 99% to use insane pronouns or be punished by the government if you don't. And yes, some people who ID as the other gender do have a mental illness. Some do it because they are uncomfortable for no particular reason. Others do it for attention. Point is this is blatantly infringing on freedom of speech and If this stuff became law whats to stop them from forcing other outrageous things getting taken away? I shouldn't be forced to use zir or ze, i should use what i think fits for ease of categorization and Identification of someone and if they don't like then too bad, i have the right to say what i want even if it's not popular or necessarily right.

[@randy7068]

Corporal punishment was banished and self entitled freaks think they can run society.

[@parameswarannarayanan3177]

@@deltagearadvanced5140 you're absolutely right

[@14067913]

My pronoun of choice is llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch, any bastard who misrepresents/mispronounces my choice of pronoun will be sued.

[@Rays_K]

I heard about this crazy stuff. We shouldn't really try to enable them or soon they will break the english language lol. Then other languages need to be reform just because of this, thank GOD if they don't. It will only cause headache for everyone, except for "them" of course.

[@joshthecholo4534]

Imagine pulling out a Pokédex to see what human it is lmaoooo

[@Davies2710]

Joshthecholo underrrated comment

[@DarkMirria1]

lmao

[@nathanpankow9605]

How does this not have a thousand likes lmaooo

[@ravik007ggn]

This needs to have a few hundred thousand likes.. I added mine.

[@druskii90]

🔥 🔥 🔥

[@daisyfish-fn4js]

Several years ago I believed everything the media was saying about jordan now i think he is one of the most important proponents of western values we have. Its only because of people like him there is any pushback at all against things that literally threaten western democracy. Thank you Dr peterson for being one of the first to put your head above the parapet. The truth will win out.

[@stefanmeyers2808]

It takes a brave, honest person to admit that they were duped at one point in life. I have made numerous mistakes myself and been duped so much so that I now believe nobody until I can confirm what they say with well established facts.

[@isaacayala2547]

notice how the other professor has notes he's reading from and Jordan just stays calm and looks directly into the camera the whole time. He's speaking nothing but truth, and facts.

[@farook5872]

What????

[@skbuydens7717]

Perfect. 1% of the population can tell 99% of the population what to do by legislation.

[@razor7112]

it's actually way lower than 1% hahahah, but i get your point.

[@OdinZockt]

thats also how capitalism works, except its by the inherent convincing power of money, not by legislation

[@walberparker7111]

@@OdinZockt yeah, but they earn that money

[@OdinZockt]

@@walberparker7111 ive never stated something different

[@costin125]

@Legenden but look at scandinavian countries for healthy socialism. Or you need a more binary reality?

[@carsoncoley1]

My phone autocorrects these pronouns to something else. My phone should be thrown in jail.

[@affarokurz1486]

Hahahaha

[@PaganEuropa.]

Ohhh, your phone is very offensive. Hahaha

[@atlasshrugged7475]

Shhh - lets not put that info out there to be noted by the ignoramuses

[@THE-UNRAVELING-]

🤣

[@smithlong3925]

Funny

[@shaynelucas3899]

Good to see a civil discussion with opposing opinions. Jordan Peterson is top notch. Love his way of dealing with these interviews

[@eagle5818]

"If we're going back and forth in our differences in value, i would say that the highest possible value is truth" brilliant.

[@ShiningTrailblazerTV]

1985: In the future we will have flying cars 2021: I identify as a flying car

[@andreadea6781]

LOL :-))))))))

[@joshuawagner5286]

Sooooo funny lmao

[@tastywater_]

Well, apparently we're in the future now...

[@derekhall2079]

LOL

[@crazyfalang8420]

Seen this comment before on another video

[@jimlahey3919]

These aren’t debates. It’s one man speaking facts and another speaking feelings

[@datteldiskussion4992]

Besides the moderator, I only saw one man.

[@atinyvoice7861]

Oooo! Well said! 🌟

[@dilshanaoki7493]

It's a fact that facts don't care about feelings. (As exactly how it should be.)

[@gageh89]

@@dilshanaoki7493 -Ben shapiro

[@camlyles3217]

and fact dont care about feelings

[@luisgonzalespecho]

When someone interrupts you while speaking means they are losing their minds.

[@daddykampoy6086]

Please God protect Professor Peterson with his good right.

[@HltFilms]

1970: we will have flying cars by 2020 2019: che, xhe, ze, zhee, yer, yay, burp, fart

[@janchovanec8624]

Did you just assume they are sentient being that is alive? You farting white male! Oh, and I bet you are straight, REEEEEEEEEE!

[@Shoeless598]

You know that south park episode where those ppl come from the future speaking all weird, this is the start of it

[@1101firefighter]

Ján Chovanec REEEEEEEEEEEE

[@omarman975]

yee, haw...

[@GathKingLeppbertI]

Um. Flying cars were a thing. I remember Popular Mechanics ran at least 2 articles on them. Newspeak on the other hand, well...

[@lordheadass8310]

Peterson always looks like he’s lost faith in humanity

[@YeahISk]

Haven’t you

[@scum0320]

He’s just representing what most of us who still have a brain feel like

[@ZeranZeran]

Well he's in rehab for abusing meth now. Funny how things work out.

[@ZeranZeran]

@@derekbarrientos561 Yeah, it was meth and adderall. The news was leaked months ago. Peterson used meth and then tried to supplement it with adderal and other stimulants. Bad move. Wonder why he did it.

[@BigPapaMitchell]

At least he's now braindead and we don't have to care about him anymore

[@donaldleider7382]

There was only one real professor in this debate, Dr. Peterson

[@marivipalomino6975]

From a linguistic point of view, Dr. Peterson is spot on. Changes in language take place naturally, out of common use, they have never been imposed. In the Spanish language, we have The Spanish Real Academy that sets certain rules but even they have to get together with other Latin American Academies of the Spanish language over a certain period of time to include in the dictionary words that were not considered correct previously but now are commonly accepted. Why? Because language is dynamic, not imposed.

[@leandroatreides]

I couldn't agree more. Language is always dynamic and is always changing in a NATURAL WAY. You can't just force something into a language's grammar. Words are okay since they are just a matter of singular and plural, or gender in some languages. But a Pronoun? That's a whole new level. You have to mess with the language's grammar and structure. We cannot call those people male/female, therefore we cannot use boy/girl, or man/woman... Is a newborn or a 1 to 4-year-old boy or girl able to decide what pronoun they want to be referred to? What about grammar? Adjectives, adverbs, objects, sentence structures, demonstrative pronouns, possessive pronouns, plural and singular forms, verb conjugation in all tenses, vocatives, declinations, and so on. Those people are delusional. Some demand to be referred to as they/them/their. Uh-uh, shouldn't it be they/them/their/THEIRS/THEMSELF/THEMSELVES? The pronoun "they" is the 3rd-person plural. So it means that they don't have a singular pronoun? That single person is always a collective? Since "they" is plural, when referring to a trans-woman, we should say "They are over here!" Then, let's be consistent and do it right. You cannot just pick a pronoun and that's it. You MUST do it accordingly: - DO Betty cook? HAVE Sean done their homework? DO THESE Carl PEOPLE know English? - ARE Meghan doing okay? Shawn HEARTS BEAT very fast. Hanah MAKE things for THEMSELVES. - Dylan? THOSE PEOPLE? I do not want to talk to THEM. Lol, it's easy to think it is all about just picking a pronoun and having people refer to you by it. But there's a thing called GRAMMAR. Let's just stop this nonsense and let language follow its course as it has always been. Should new pronouns appear, language itself will naturally take care of them and all of their grammar rules by itself. Every single word there is today has evolved/derived from others. You cannot just create a word (pronouns, in this case) out of nowhere and that's it. What about etymology, morphology, phonetics, and phonology? Peer said that just in NY there are 31 new "gender identifications." What if each one decides to create a new pronoun? We will have 31 new pronouns. Should I organize my Contacts by pronouns now?

[@adamgoujdami7168]

I identify as king, my pronouns are : his majesty.

[@sanskarsinha8197]

Nice

[@cezarstimepieces7595]

How dare you use "his" to identify yourself!! Lmao

[@adamgoujdami7168]

@@cezarstimepieces7595 look, either you call me using my prounouns or i'll file a complaint against you. His majesty pls.

[@adamgoujdami7168]

@@sanskarsinha8197 thanks lmao

[@CompCode-Central]

@@adamgoujdami7168 🤣🤣👌

[@rixtex9]

I am trans and I whole heartedly support Prof Peterson. It is estimated that transgendered people make up .03% of the population. Who in their right mind could possibly ]expect 99.7% of the population to adapt to the needs of .03%? This controversy over the rights and the "feelings" of trans people is a horrible travesty. I would like to insert that transsexuals are individuals and do not all insist that other people call them by designated pronouns. Personally, I wish I could dissociate myself from extremists that make these unreasonable demands. I find this problem to be very disconcerting.

[@TraiansChannel]

.

[@paulpoco22]

Ricky Stecz yes .03℅ is very small amount. The SJW types became permanent Victimhood types. A small minority should never be able to dictate society, yes these small minority are different, all they should get is dignity and respect and not be on the news every night.

[@rixtex9]

thanks. I stand corrected.

[@jayzonedc6474]

*0.3%

[@matehirviendo684]

please , the trans persons need to speak about this subject and show support to Jordan B Peterson. Please he need all the support availabe , and if its from transexuals it give him a realy strong force to stand against this policy

[@rodgerwilson702]

Peterson is just being real. He’s a beast. He ain’t worried about trans people’s poor little feelings. The trans community argues by acting like a bunch of crybabies

[@iflyforfree]

I gender identify as Michael Jackson… My pronouns are he/hee

[@trunkskoolkid]

🤣

[@jacobarellano1967]

😂🤣🤣😂😂😂🤣🤣

[@ren3429]

We have a winner!!! Hahahaha

[@cidthegod7440]

💀 😂😂😂😂😂

[@laylax2672]

Nice stolen comment 🗿

[@kdorji7106]

There are two types of gender Autobots and Decepticons

[@hideyourmoms6227]

Man stop😂

[@Gray-om1bj]

No...never stop...never

[@user-qk3rv3by5j]

haha this is brilliantly funny

[@shubhankarsse]

You sir are a man of pure culture.

[@joshuarago2501]

Damn this guy is woke af

[@dianelemay3661]

THANK YOU MR PETERSON! We appreciate your common sense approach, Stay strong !!!

[@teresapitts2021]

They don't want rights they want special rights. After all its all about them

[@nenmaster5218]

Prove it instead of being a little Motherf-cker who belies in myths that get debunked 2 seconds after they are tolllddd. Dont be a babbyyyyy, be a grownnuuppp

[@dane9093]

@@nenmaster5218don’t you have “safe space” you should be at right now?

[@Linara35]

George Orwell once wrote or said, "The further a society drifts from the truth, the more they will hate those that speak it,"

[@onebutterfly_S]

Amen to that!

[@C4RL1NN]

That’s an iconic and timeless quote if I ever heard one

[@marleneschulte1499]

That is so true in today's world.

[@davemartino5997]

Never more true then today

[@HexenStar]

One of the most genial quotes i've ever heard. I'd do well to remember it.

[@supershmueli]

My pronouns are “Your royal highness” and “your majesty.” If you don’t call me by those pronouns, I am hurt and offended!

[@blakeismydaughter2902]

Shmueli my pronouns are “the great one” and “your grace”

[@Th3budtender]

I'm sorry you are offended your highness...allow me to work an additional 40 hours this week and pay that to someone who does not or is unwilling to work.

[@miriamschmitz394]

@Benjamin riggs and outdoors &A that is not correct German

[@miriamschmitz394]

@Benjamin riggs and outdoors &A True ;) As a German, I appreciate the effort.

[@deitrichevans3882]

I don't have a pronoun there for you can't speak to me because I only speak when called by my pronoun

[@RolingRandom]

Just call them "it" and be done with it :)

[@WalleBloom]

Doing a great job Jorden. Keep it up!!! Looking forward to hearing more from you.

[@alfauno1255]

They were lucky, Jordan was using only 5% of his power.

[@jhonedoe3734]

lmao

[@andrewherrera92able]

😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣

[@deku7522]

You are not one of the chosen - He is Jordan B Peterson to you

[@Adonis8989]

He wasn’t even using his second form?

[@barkatullahdurrani]

And you know by power he means competence.

[@MCJonCRLKLLR]

I identify as ruler of the universe. My preferred pronoun is your majesty.

[@kriptdawg9398]

Y A your majesty, have a good day.

[@indisishir]

Y A sorry that's already been taken by me... I'm also one of the thousands of people that was Cleopatra in a past life ;)

[@PyroSax]

NICE - love it!

[@jjtruble7263]

Gold

[@odoggow8157]

AND EVEN IF U PUT THIS TO THEM THEY WOULD REFUSE TO SEE THEIR OWN HYPOCRISY WHEN THEY REFUSE TO RESPECT OUR ROYAL HIGHNESS YOUR MAJESTY. ITS SO ANNOYING WHEN ONE GROUP COMPLAIN ABOUT OPPRESSION THAT IS IN THEIR MINDS YET ARE BLIND TO SEE THEY ARE THE OPPRESSORS

[@jesusistheonlygodamen3406]

Truth matters.

[@btdoe3259]

And it's always staying the same ❤

[@user-jt5wz9bb8g]

sometimes 'kindness in the immediate present is not the appropriate response'

[@mr.silver5476]

I believe it was George Orwell that once said "the further society strays from the truth, the more it is angered by those that speak it". Keep up the fight peterson.

[@born2win262]

Awesome quote

[@mr.silver5476]

@@Bannysadkosays2u that is more or less the quote, i may have messed up the grammar a bit. But either who or that will get the point across.

[@booboo9ism]

Mr. Silver ..”newspeak” -1984

[@mr.silver5476]

@@carolynolsen132 so essentially the complete devolution of language, did i understand that correctly?

[@lixerman99]

George Orwell was a socialist who would've hated Jordan Peterson, as is evident from his writing

[@globalmyths6580]

I identify as a countryside guy My pronouns are Yee/haw

[@kuraku_ru]

I identify as an island guy My pronouns are Alo/ha

[@Ryan-ze9fz]

I identify as a non-binary obese diabetic

[@khalifalbilal3141]

@@Ryan-ze9fz and your pronouns are?

[@nawaf8494]

@@khalifalbilal3141 shi/it

[@frankgeniusza1524]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@amcmc4641]

Thank you Mr. JPeterson

[@trentbergman3827]

Respect to the mediator for the debate

[@IImitateVince]

This is NOT "left vs right" This is lunacy vs sanity

[@TiagoSilva-ib7vq]

Well, far left is lunacy.

[@JeyC_]

Well you can't deny the left brought up and even encourage these insanities all the time right?

[@JacksonPlayzGames]

The left is the only side with sane people still.

[@VanguardChamp]

That's what "left vs right" has always been lol

[@the_rook_123]

llmitateVince you just said it's not left vs right and then just defined it perfectly...

[@haliwud24]

I was once a man trapped inside of a woman's body...but then my mother gave birth to me.

[@estherwiskel6550]

Very nice humor 👏👍👍💕

[@nat5120]

wow so funny! it's almost like this joke hasn't been made 5000000 times

[@tristanjacobson5199]

haliwud24 lol

[@terrygodgirl4430]

👏👏👏 Very good joke!!

[@becky5040]

wow edgy

[@therion961]

WTF? This is how insanity looks like. Pronouns? Pluralism? Bruuuuuuuuuh!

[@bethjaena]

Dr Peterson is so calm. so admirable.

[@stevejones8550]

Years later, There's a reason we all know who Jordan Peterson is, and have no clue who that other person is.

[@vmi4172]

Being on TV with Jordan Peterson is probably that "other person's" claim to fame lol

[@meganstanwood3376]

because he's problematic and craves attention lol

[@wrestlar3246]

@@meganstanwood3376 All he’s done is come out and have an opinion. The reason he’s so contentious is because of the people who attack him just for speaking up.

[@blumythefool777]

@@meganstanwood3376 i really wonder if you have listened to his videos or to his points because he isnt problematic and his advice helped a lot of people

[@JM-gt8in]

@@wrestlar3246 very true. The left made him famous, by calling him out on 1 thing and losing debates on everything

[@reyisawesome]

I can't take any of these people who claim to be transgender AND non-binary seriously.

[@dimitrioskantakouzinos8590]

I can't take anyone claiming to be 'non-binary' seriously.

[@Warpedwenger]

Really like what does that even mean? It's absurd.

[@stianfiskermann2919]

This would be comedy here!

[@Y2KNW]

Guy's just a giant zero, so I guess that does make him non-binary.

[@LesActive]

"There are 10 types of people in this world, those who understand binary and those who don't." -someone who understood binary

[@MacheteSideral6969]

This was the moment Jordan Peterson changed from a Professor to a Super Star

[@AmyWrightTheNerd]

Wow the ending when Dr Peterson said the CBC 'conveniently' omitted certain clips was so good haha, the CBC just got burned 😂

[@tyrues1682]

Imagine making up words so people dont get offended

[@HeyBusterLuke]

Yes.. compunctuous frasmosis can certainly lead to anaspeptic pericombobulation

[@linuxgirl_]

Yes, unfortunately ten years ago we only had to imagine it--now we get to see it. And it's gone beyond words . . . this is grammar. They actually want to dictate our grammar. I'm sorry, but no!

[@ems3832]

And thereby offended many, many more people in the process! Ironic, I'd say...

[@apnwu369]

Imagine instead of going to therapy to figure out why you are offended by ridiculous things you force the whole outside world to change through legislation so that you never have to face your psychological issues.

[@angelchavez4245]

tn369 in other words, insanity?

[@becky231]

Peterson is like that one sober guy in a party full of drunks.

[@Kyavata]

He's the doctor who doesn't realize the staff were killed long ago and that mental patients are running the show.

[@WarriorTRZ]

Considering the amount of water he drinks... I think he's Dangerously Sober.

[@hubristicmystic]

Person A hates and is prejudiced towards Transgender people. Law C16 makes it illegal for them not to call them Zei, Zee, Princess PP or whatever they demand. Person A now hates Transgender people twice as much and is twice as prejudiced towards them. Own goal losers

[@nickmagrick7702]

he seems like the guy to try and talk about psychology and philosophy at a party full of drunks, while hes drunk.

[@falafeldurum2095]

here in Germany we don't have any plans for gender pronouns nor do any gender pronouns exist afaik. If I see a transgender person, which happens pretty rarely, I guess if it's rather a male or female. I never met a dude who couldn't identify as male or female. In the end your chromosomes are what makes you male, female or intersexual.

[@josepi3213]

The amount of patience Jordan has is absolutely insane. I could not hold a civil conversation with these individuals with how they negotiate.

[@paulwillis592]

They are narrow minded, have no respect for themselves or their God or his ways

[@user-ev9ke4pj2r]

Thank you Dr. Patterson

[@dblankenship88]

“In order to be able to think, you have to risk being offensive”.

[@DS-gk2ri]

So what you’re saying is, if I’m not offending you I’m not capable of thought?

[@thestrikerfalcon277]

True, but at least Jordan Peterson doesn't disguise being mean as being honest like the likes of Ben Shapiro do. Peterson is a very mature man, and that's why I like him.

[@cameron7441]

D S lmao

[@abhishekr336]

@@DS-gk2ri I suspect you are incapable already.

[@DS-gk2ri]

Abhishek Ramesh It’s just a little joke referring to the Cathy Newman interview, you pathetic wretch.

[@kieranmp4143]

In North England everyone is just called ‘mate’

[@Snowkell]

Fanmail Only also Australia the only sane countries

[@chel3SEY]

That's just as bad, if not worse.

[@hannahs2265]

Most accurate thing I've ever read.

[@kieranmp4143]

It’s quite egalitarian

[@HighlanderAdrian]

In Soviet Russia everyone is just called “comrade”. Problem solved!

[@shielamaeanfone7264]

I agree. It is dangerous.

[@alexmart2019]

Dr.Peterson I am glad people like u exist.

[@Wavelover33]

I can’t believe this whole gender name calling issue exists. What a waste of time

[@AudiRSAvant]

This generation is so weak and I’m ashamed I’m part of it

[@snickerdoodle245]

If we don't have gender names then male and female wouldn't count seeing as they are genders too

[@crowickedone4037]

@Tejas Khurana We want 70's

[@bernicetwili3881]

Its absurd.

[@kevinfacts5200]

It's madness

[@timothyconklin5057]

Ze and Zer. This situation actually sounds like a South Park episode.

[@milton7763]

Rhinoplasti!

[@annakareninnav2427]

Hahahahaha😂

[@shino933]

Nah man Zim is one of them. The opposite gender from Zim should be dib

[@sofycolt27]

@@shino933 I feel offended by them using my nickname as a pronoun. It's disrespectful to my imaginary name on KZbin.

[@lukejean3007]

Matt and trey have so much material to work with these days, episodes of South Park write themselves pretty much .

[@nostalgiabarn4072]

No one can beat this guy in rational argument. No one

[@mohamedbahoussa1546]

I don't know why I didn't come across any comment talking about the fact that Jordan's discussing the matter spontaneously when the other guy is reading from a paper or something below !

[@BeyondPostal]

Jordan Peterson is a hero. I love hearing this guy speak.

[@gotb944]

I have the utmost respect for this guy because he’s not afraid to publicly say what most of us are thinking.

[@louismwobobia5773]

Jordan Peterson simply brings the facts.

[@bargainator3]

And justifying it

[@rebeccamarrujo3849]

Exactly 💯

[@beacuseimugly4417]

All ofpp pp ofpp pp pp llpp pp pp pp pp p pp pp pp pp pp pppp P

[@michelebella677]

Don’t say most of us because that’s absolutely NOT true.

[@badromenful]

“How many legs does a dog have if you call his tail a leg? Four. Saying that a tail is a leg doesn't make it a leg.” Abraham Lincoln

[@glebickapimpin9852]

well said

[@mikepayne759]

Love the quote. Never heard that before. 👍👍

[@aidenholmes5588]

Never heard this before but, thank you because I like it.

[@hasanshazad7751]

pretty sure Abe Lincoln didn't really say that. Good quote though edit: Actually he did. My bad

[@mylene5795]

lincoln is a coward lol

[@seraphin8999]

Saving the pronounce beside the name on the Phone😂😂😂😂

[@zeersa4089]

😂😂😂

[@abigailpospisil4075]

"facts don't care about your feelings"

[@yonatanyonatano1192]

Okay, folks?

[@thirdy2004]

ben shapiro

[@cloighiniclochlainn8473]

Ok this is epic

[@saharasmith859]

Just like biology and chromosomes don't care either

[@augustusgloop4314]

I find it ironic people like this have that mindset

[@production2353]

5 years later and still nobody knows what a ze, zim or zir is.

[@talha1349]

Sounds like German ngl

[@zyphayt]

I identify as a two-spirit gender neutral lagoon triggerfish that’s missing its left pectoral fin 😎

[@strawberrybun325]

@@ohasis8331 my friend uses xe

[@strawberrybun325]

@@ohasis8331 what does that mean

[@strawberrybun325]

@@ohasis8331 oh ok

[@lungisangapi6009]

Much respect to Dr Peterson, you sir are a legend

[@saxaphone9496]

Can they force adjectives and nouns?

[@deniseyoung5865]

Ok but I laughed out loud when they showed the damn chart for pronouns 😭😂

[@joshuaaguayo5539]

Lol same I will never use any of those pronouns in my life tbh😂

[@hoppa_2184]

Yeah...That is ridiculous. I heard about some 'z' words before but I wasn't aware it was serious...or that many words for that matter...

[@thapelosibanyoni2205]

Lol me too 😂😂😂

[@danielk348]

Same here what kind of nonesense is this 🤣🤣🤣

[@richardfranek4335]

Your laughter will disappear promptly my friend, right after this becomes one of the emelentary subjects at primary schools.

[@guyfromaucklandnz]

As I New Zealander I apologize for this little fascist.

[@thomasarmstrong3797]

yep, i second that! made me cringe when i heard too

[@solomonbundy2795]

Do you know what fascism means?

[@guyfromaucklandnz]

Solomon Bundy sure do.

[@dirtynipples26]

hey I saw you on an o&a comment thing, that 69 was delicious.

[@guyfromaucklandnz]

april faawwls!!

[@kingtommy123govier2]

Mad respect for JP!😎

[@adrianhowell36]

Keep up the excellent work Jordan.

[@sonny6733]

I'm with Peterson on this. You can ask me to address you any way you want and I may or may not comply with your request at my discretion.

[@citizeneveryman6798]

exactly "freedom" these sjws dont understand actual freedom

[@TrueDeva]

That is probably the thing which this discussion is all about. But the catalyst in this case is the opposing underlying values: truth OR compassion. You can't do both all the time, but is required to excercise the two in order to be balanced human being. True compassion can only be reached by truth. You have to say what is on your mind otherwise you compromise your OWN integrity. And values are up for a change only through conversation. This tool how to address them is introduced by force. And the sad thing is this whole situation going to hurt the LGBTQ-ETC people the most.

[@Nightdare]

If addressing a gender deviant 'wrongly' with "he" or "she" by their opinion, we can accurately state they are heterophobic

[@tarico4436]

Am mostly w/Petereater on this one. When the other Peet or Peterwhatever mentioned discrimination at zee bank (9:33), getting zer's funds frozen because ze is "trying" to steal from zeself, well, that's a problem. And it looks like I'm joking around, but I'm not. Just because you sliced your manhood off, you should still be able to get your money out of your bank. I mean we're adults, here, aren't we?

[@dc8890]

No! I _demand_ that you call me "your highness", henceforth! I will _sue you_ if you do not comply!

[@VoiceNerd]

It's sad we live in an age where speaking common sense is nonsensical

[@redburns1689]

As Thucydides notes, a sure sign of the decay of a society is when word lose their meaning: when courage means cowardice and cowardice means courage, or in this case when men mean women and women mean men, we know we are living in dark times.

[@Ben-li9zb]

@@redburns1689 yet ultimately, civilizations rise and fall all the same, through a lack of resiliency. What names people are called means very little in comparison

[@redburns1689]

@@Ben-li9zb No doubt. My point is only that the loss of meaning in word is a sign of decay. And I would disagree with you about it not mattering what people are called. Words and names have meaning and are important. Without them we have no way of communicating, learning, or growing.

[@Ben-li9zb]

@@redburns1689 they do have meaning, but it seems people are getting far too caught up about minor issues like someone's chosen name, rather than the more critical problems. Same thing happened with the Rittenhouse trial not too long ago

[@arnoldschwarzenegger7483]

western society will be doomed if it continues like this, thats why feminism and lgbt didnt really pick up here in the east

[@auggievu2972]

Eliminate the sick swamp. Journalist is on other side.

[@tarickk6132]

This lady in the tie is reading from a script; it's clear that she received the questions in advance.

[@simonvanderkruik3721]

I don’t see why Jordan’s critics can’t get his simple message. Legislating speech is a really bad idea. Everyone should fight that.

[@captainfatbat9557]

Cause Jordan's critics were bullied in childhood, so they're hell bent on taking out their anger on anyone they deem as a bully. They're living in disneyland with no real struggle to fight for. If all of them take up something hard such as boxing they'll just really forget about their pronouns.

[@pulpficti]

Peterson is a smart guy. So why did he so comically misinterpret that bill?

[@captainfatbat9557]

@@pulpficti He is not misinterpreting, that bill open doorways for language monitoring. You can go to jail for being politically incorrect and nobody wants that.

[@pulpficti]

@@captainfatbat9557 so what's an example someone going to jail for because he said sth that's politically incorrect? What law would that be?

[@captainfatbat9557]

@@pulpficti That's the whats coming to Canada soon if this gets passed. Required by legislature to use proper pronouns. REQUIRED.

[@peterchedraoui1494]

“Tolerance will reach such a level that intelligent people will be banned from thinking so as not to offend the imbeciles” - Fyodor Dostoevsky

[@smmlf676]

on point

[@jontyrhoades9661]

is that from crime and punishment ?

[@virgochick1]

That is gold.

[@timg1770]

I wish I could give that quote a thousand thumbs up.

[@ucheemmanuel8266]

The best thing I have read in a while

[@punchion]

I think Professor Peterson says what the " silent majority " are thinking. A brilliant man!

[@darthrage2464]

At about the 14 minute mark Pete gets a softball that was prearranged. You can tell because it kept looking down to read the answer.

[@mrknarf4438]

If someone were to refer to Peterson as "she", would he get annoyed? Perhaps, it's the wrong way of addressing him. But should it be illegal to do so? The counterargument seemed to be "be kind". Kindness shouldn't be enforced by law. If I don't keep the door open for the person behind me, I shouldn't be fined for it. That's what defines kindness: the choice. I choose to be kind because I want to, not because I have to. If you're forced to be kind, it's not kindness anymore.

[@dylancochran5552]

Mr Knarf well said

[@Night-mq8hn]

- Mr Knarf, 2020

[@beachmountain4822]

Very well put. Big up

[@chiefexecutiveof8308]

High five, buddy

[@dreamingdreamerdream]

that's well said

[@bradbassett1240]

31 genders?...I'm out of here!

[@rajeevpaltrow8728]

Brad Bassett there are now 37 genders . Inflation

[@mztwixed]

right? smh...get flipping REAL already

[@Tyler88Durden]

Ha ha ha ha lol

[@roschphilipfernandez2618]

I know right?? I can barely remember 2..

[@kaylag9579]

Apparently it’s up in the 70’s now just thought I would update you :)

[@kimpotter7266]

I don't participate in NONSENSE!!!

[@Truth-loving]

Thank you for standing up for free speech Dr. Peterson

[@burnneblograv46]

@Alex Jones youre joking right

[@bjorn3538]

@Alex Jones you're a riot!

[@lettd0wn]

@@burnneblograv46 dude. Yes he's joking. He was being sarcastic

[@burnneblograv46]

@@lettd0wn hard to tell. Specially with feminist

[@bjorn3538]

@@burnneblograv46 you spelt 'friendly' incorrectly in your channel description

[@ZBspicey]

I cant believe this is an actual debate. What a world we live in

[@vanikaedward1793]

Tell me about it. There are bigger issues and unfortunately geniuses are forced to talk and waste time in topics like this. Very sad.

[@sudeshgaur6059]

@@vanikaedward1793 thanks to radical left who thinks with their rear end.

[@Dopeher]

Same here

[@Cub__]

Yeah it's not looking good.. these ideologies are spreading like wildfire also due to the innovation of the internet.

[@nanadaimehokage9934]

As someone who lives in the Middle East watching this was so funny I’m literally not sure if this is true or a big prank

[@eastvanman7468]

The interviewer did a great job. Good questions, allowed the speakers to speak. Not an easy topic.

[@leroyrodgers6089]

I'm from the future, and Jordan was right about every single thing he said.

[@easypimpin123]

I openly laughed when they showed a graphic of the different made up pronouns.

[@madelynstrub4717]

Well it is appropriate to laugh at ridiculous nonsensical things

[@teewhyeee]

Same LOL

[@yoyu2567]

The thing is some people actually thing that is a thing

[@son8373]

god damn it.. why the hell it is so funny LOL..

[@chadpowell1832]

Dude same! and its 3am lamao!

[@bjjpath]

Did I miss when Biology became a Social Science?

[@ariadnewolf8667]

Yes you did. I was there. Not fun times.

[@christineadams2256]

I THINK I MISSED THAT TOO.

[@ariadnewolf8667]

@The Unicorn Of Whats Not Happening Now It did a pretty good job there for a while. Thing is rulers eventually realized they could circumvent it, first Henry the 8th and then others. After that, it was man's law first and religion second, at least in Europe.

[@ariadnewolf8667]

@@christineadams2256 Nope. Sort of? Tbh it's not necessarily even sociology. Gender Studies exists because it wants to operate outside the standards of investigation and rationality that Sociology uses. Gender Studies doesn't have its own methodology yet so most conclusions it comes to are just validated based on its own flawed logic.

[@timothyhollins6010]

bjjpath true

[@darwinism14]

The fact that debate itself takes place is pure insanity.

[@annpretorius647]

How can saying 'no' cause harm?

[@eugenemuntslag7002]

It doesn't

[@jajooby6488]

Ze, Zie, Ey, Per? 5 years later, 99.99% of the population has no clue what these are referring to.

[@ab8588]

True

[@ArroEL922]

correction: 99.9999% has no clue. That is , only about 1 in a 1,000,000 may have some idea what is a Ze, etc. That is my guess. And I think even that may be too .. ah .. generous (trying to avoid using the word liberal)

[@origanev1986]

@John Martin i had to laugh...several times

[@derrik1878]

@@ArroEL922 are you from guyana ?

[@dragomilosevic4823]

I think they went with 'they'

[@akthamadams7989]

"Truth is a much higher value than kindness." Pure savagery here.

[@trevorwilliams1436]

One day you will understand that truth is very important

[@trevorwilliams1436]

@Linus Arvidsson absolutely

[@jamesdorpinghaus3294]

Truth is more valuable than kindness. These people don't realize or care that by making me change the words that I use, they are taking away MY FREEDOM. Keep your hands off my freedom, or I will come at you. All men should be free to say whatever, do whatever, so long as their actions cause no harm physically, or to the property or to he basic rights of the individual. Political correctness is a slippery slope people. To those offended by my use of the word man, man is an interchangeable word. It can refer to a male, or to the huMAN race. Keep your political correctness away from my freedom.

[@rjeffes]

I am a huge fan of J.P. but he is wrong on this one. You must have both truth and kindness (love). Truth without kindness (love) is nothing more than a club. Kindness (love) without truth is nothing more than moral relativism leading to chaos. If they are not utilized together then J.P.'s truth that is "more valuable" than kindness cannot exist as it has no purpose. Truth does not stand on its own but must be connected to real-life interaction and application and how we live or it is a useless truth. The statement, it is true that kindness is better, proves my point. If truth is more valuable then that statement is empty, not requiring application. If kindness is more valuable, then we cannot determine if being kind is better, truly. But together the statement and the action communicate a truth that requires action, and an action that defines what is true. And that is the simple truth, and I say that with the utmost kindness. :D

[@trevorwilliams1436]

@@rjeffes Ryan mate kindness is an emotion which is important to have, however truth is something separate, it has to do with things like honour and integrity also factual information, and as such we must bring our feelings into line with the truth.