HEATED NFC North Debate

Spencer Raxter, EZ and the rest of the Heavyweights crew discuss their "All-NFC North" offenses, but EZ picked Green Bay Packers quarterback, Jordan Love over Detroit Lions quarterback Jared Goff. Is Jordan Love better, worse or equal to Jared Goff? Like, Subscribe and leave your comment below!
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[@arthurbrazee538]

Love the show but the Goff hate is getting old. No qb had more pressure on his back then Goff going head to head with Stafford and he did his thing.

[@TheSpeakEZPodcast]

Vegas has Love with higher MVP odds that JG. Is Vegas hating too or being realistic? lol

[@greatwhite3676]

@@TheSpeakEZPodcastif he has higher odds that means it’s less likely. You sound dumb.

[@mikeanderson3735]

The media wants Love for MVP over Goff. Goff could have better numbers across the board, better team success and Love will still get the vote over Goff. MVP is much more about who the media is pushing over who deserves it.

[@silent1759]

@@mikeanderson3735 Lamar Jackson proved that theory just this season.

[@fullsteamahead78]

@@mikeanderson3735he could have better numbers but he didn’t 😂

[@markcheadle495]

Man, this debate is silly. Jared Goff has played in 117 games, whereas Jordan love has only played in 27 games. Jared Goff is by far more proven and better quarterback so until Jordan love has some type of record... meaning 3 or 4 years of experience at a high level we can talk about it . Jared Goff all the way .

[@thegamingdrew3105]

People say players are elite as rookies in game one if they play well so it doesn't surprise me

[@playmakinbacon1775]

Okay with us argument are you saying that you think Goff is better than CJ stroud?

[@thegamingdrew3105]

@playmakinbacon1775 yes absolutely

[@thegamingdrew3105]

@@playmakinbacon1775 it's stupid to think stroud is better when he has so little experience

[@cesarmeza5331]

Using that logic Sam Darnold is the second best QB in the division. You are a genius man.

[@arthurbrazee538]

Goff was lights on in the playoffs. He could've won a sb last season without the drops.

[@Vossdre]

Facts

[@ph1sts]

Conference championship, not the Superbowl.

[@AaronRobinson-fg4ic]

Negative

[@arthurbrazee538]

Done beat the Chiefs once before Gibbs was him and LaPorta doing his thing

[@AaronRobinson-fg4ic]

@@arthurbrazee538 cause he beat the chiefs in the regular season that means he was gone beat him in the Superbowl oh ok I gotcha

[@jerryantaya1266]

Goff was short on TDs because of our run game. Don't do that. You know we ran for tds as often as possible. The fact that Love had more tds because he had to throw them doesn't make him better. You got that backwards. Love would have less tds with us because of the run game.

[@jamesbond1586]

EZ did a great job in this interview. Don't let the herd take away your great takes!

[@Fam1stCEO]

I can’t say a QB is better than mine based of “talent” when my QB is a proven winner he’s taken trash franchises deep in the playoffs multiple times and even has been to a SB …. Love can play his whole career and probably will never sniff a SB … Goff almost went to his second SB last year…. Stop the disrespect because when Goff wins a SB for the lions the conversation will be way different.

[@garett7386]

Bruh look at the stats

[@freeclimb5487]

Why? Just stop about Goff

[@ph1sts]

Many, if not most fans of our division rivals alreeady believe that their teams are superior to the Lions, this despite two having new QBs and one other who has a 1-1 record from last season. If the Lions had a new or still relatively inexperienced QB, I wouldn't be making unproven assertions, but that is what we deal with as Lions fans.

[@jamesbond1586]

The same people who are saying Goff is amazing are the same people who were saying that Goff is better than Mahomes last year. Stop it already. Probably the same people who though Bryce Young was better than CJ Stroud.

[@marktristanviguri7308]

LOL, deer in headlight to end CheeseHeads Super Run last year. No, even Aaron Rodgers needed Jared having to play with a broken throwing hand and Aaron Donald w/cracked ribs to beat Goff. Hey is Jared the 4th best QB in the NFC North? Love, Williams, McCarthy, Golf? Can't wait to hear that one.

[@jerryantaya1266]

Again, if Love had a run game like ours his TDs would go down. Not up.

[@jerryantaya1266]

So any QB with a good team is automatically eliminated from MVP voting EZ? Because he had too much help?

[@derkderk97]

Does Eazy not remember how bad Love looked before last season? He had 1 good season and people wanna crown him the new Mahomes

[@derekvincent5569]

They say williams has to prove it so what 8 games doing great and the rest he loses and does okay means hes better then goff 😂😅

[@shaunwhitaker748]

I like how you will praise the lions running backs for how good they are and the line is but then hold that against Goff. How many times did green bay run on third an medium or fourth down. Loves passing stats will always be better because they rely more on the pass.

[@cesarmeza5331]

So love had less turnovers with less throws. You can turn that argument right around. They also ran more because they had a better OL.

[@Kyle.Wynsma]

Anyone who says Love is better than Goff either literally doesn’t watch football or is biased and trolling

[@silent1759]

No. Next question. The ppl who think love is better than goff are the same ppl who thought tlaw was elite after 1 good season.

[@fullsteamahead78]

If u didn’t see the potential and ability of jlove last year I really question ur ability to evaluate talent

[@silent1759]

@@fullsteamahead78 Potential and production are 2 different things. I see you were one of those ppl.

[@natejeppsen3958]

@@silent1759 He is already there. It is pretty easy to see someone having a great year with question marks about what will happen when they get scouted or lack a perfect situation. Love did it by beating every team he lost to the second time when he had a chance with rookies and undrafted free agents. and the youngest team in NFL history to make the playoffs. He has a complete command of everything right now and a weapon only Mahomes can match with the ability to drift back and back foot throw like he does. Goff needs everything perfect with protection or he falls apart.

[@silent1759]

@natejeppsen3958 lmao not even gonna entertain that. If all that was true the lions would've faced the packers in the championship gm...not the niners

[@mikeanderson3735]

Why does Goff have to prove he's good over and over. We always need to see more. Love does it for 8 games and he gets the nod as being a great QB. It's Goff hate.

[@derekvincent5569]

Shit Williams hasn't played a game and I've seen people already saying he's way better then goff 😢

[@mikesknow]

… Sam LaPorta was second team all pro.

[@Jreid-zz2jp]

Goff is worst qb in division. Never ever win with that statue. Blame the drops but he decides where to go with ball. Maybe he should run it like Purdy lol oh ya he can't move or throw deep or create or avoid pressure

[@jamesbond1586]

Yes. Jordan Love is better than Goff. Wait till Lions fans revolt and want Goff gone when they can't win a Superbowl lol. Love is better. Stop being biased Lions fans. You can still be a fan and criticize some of the players.

[@LionsOnTheHunt313]

JLove has more talent than Goff, but at this moment in time I wouldn't say he's a better QB. I feel the same about Hooker vs Goff. Goff just has so much more experienced and is a very cerebral. If Love continues to progress & balls out again this year I think it would be fair to say he's surpassed Goff in the North. FTP tho! One Pride!!!

[@kyleramos1255]

Let's be honest. Few years ago with beydoun and fish and Jeff, this network was booming. Someone pissed them off and they're all gone. Neal is annoying when I watch DCFC and Mac is the only REAL ONE left. Ez is straight tho No disrespect. Rax needs a bath and a shave.. But I gotta unsubscribe. Not the same flare it used to be. Cheers to the future fam. No disrespect intended.

[@jasonrichards1999]

Not sure what the debate is all about. Let's look at the facts. Goff was a #1 overall pick. Love was never thought of as a 1st round pick. Goff started from day 1 and Love sat for 3+ years. Rodgers was late 30s when Love was drafted coming off arguably his worst year that season and they still not only held onto Rodgers, but started him over Love. If Love is so talented, packers would have traded Rodgers and his contract as soon as they drafted Love for a haul to improve the team for Love. But instead they ignored the offense and leaned on Rodgers. Love should look good in the packers offense. He had 4 years running the same playbook.

[@TheSpeakEZPodcast]

lol

[@malmacian_crunch2641]

Haha this take is ridiculous. And I’m not saying Love’s better than Goff, but this list of reasons is so bad it’s hilarious

[@jasonrichards1999]

@@malmacian_crunch2641 yeah it's so bad that everyone was saying at the beginning of last season that Love was a bust and packers made a huge mistake. That's how the NFL works, sorry you hate Goff but facts are facts

[@TheSpeakEZPodcast]

@@jasonrichards1999 nah Jason you gotta hit the lab again lol

[@jasonrichards1999]

@@TheSpeakEZPodcast hahaha...in 4 years what has Love done vs what has Goff done? Goff has 1 super bowl appearance and multiple NFC championship game appearances vs Love who has 0 of them in 4 years. It's not like the Packers have been under .500 for years. You hate Goff and think he's a liability. Goff has taken the lions farther in 3 years than Stafford did his whole lions career. Stafford had Calvin, Suh, and most of the offensive line minus Sewell so you can't say Stafford had nobody. Plus packers would have made the playoffs if they beat the lions two years ago if they beat the lions the last game of the season. So it's not like Love took over a garbage team. Lions were 12-5. Packers were 9-8. They played the same schedule. The proof is all there that Goff IS BETTER than Love. It's on you if you choose to go with feelings over facts

[@gallopingLake6]

For what it’s worth, the Packers finished with the 10th best defense, while the Lions finished with the 23rd.

[@justinharmon8548]

Packers definitely didn't have the 10th best defense. Definitely wanna recheck those numbers

[@fullsteamahead78]

😂😂😂😂 that’s just a lie

[@gallopingLake6]

@@justinharmon8548 1) Ravens 2) Chiefs 3)49ers 4) Bills 5) Cowboys 6) Steelers 7) Buccaneers 8) Saints 9) Raiders 10) Packers…Profootball reference.

[@justinharmon8548]

@gallopingLake6 you're talking about scoring defense which is not how defenses are ranked.

[@newmoney3775]

lmmfao our back-up quarterback better than both…HOOKER2024’…

[@Elusivve]

Hooker not even the best back up 😂

[@ph1sts]

Goff did not play in any preseason games last year, IIRC...so Hooker should QB this year's preseason slate.

[@growmiegreenthumb8025]

​@@ElusivveGoff got traded and got extra picks to talk his terrible contract. It worked out but still remember we got an extra pick to accept him

[@jerryantaya1266]

​@growmiegreenthumb8025 how was his contract terrible? Making mid money as a top 5 QB by every metric you can go by. The relationship between Goff and McVay was ruined because a comment. They had to give up way more because of the situation McVay put them in. They're paying Stafford way more and he's not better than Goff by the #s

[@Elusivve]

@@jerryantaya1266 he doesn’t know anything about football

[@shaunwhitaker748]

Ez that take is garbage. So by that reasoning Tom Brady is not the goat because he couldn't run right. He only did his job?

[@ryansreaction]

y'all need to learn about QBR it gives context for the impact of their stats, and Love ranks higher

[@greatwhite3676]

After 1/6 of the games. Our fans are so dumb it’s incredible.

[@ryansreaction]

@@greatwhite3676 - after an entire season

[@fortshucker]

That’s why this show is getting less and less views. Hometown haters

[@dannye7612]

EZs shtick is getting old.

[@greatwhite3676]

We have an elite football team finally and this is what our media is discussing? This 97.1 level bad.

[@TheSpeakEZPodcast]

Lmfaoooooooo

[@greatwhite3676]

Love is not black enough. We should trade Goff for Duane Haskins yo