Heathrow to Upminster for just £1.50

[@joesos]

The next stas The next stas The next stas The next stas

[@qwertyalfa2757]

😂😂😂

[@adriyanangelov7099]

@@qwertyalfa2757 D

[@williamhuang8309]

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[@Ron_TTE]

One i saw this on a piccadilly line Train: The next station is: Kings cross St Pancras!! Change here for** Victoria ^ Metropolitan” Circle* and Hammersmith and city%%Line and National and International Rail Services””

[@rickrennyoneill]

Again Geoff you make the most boring sounding videos actually very entertaining. It's quite a skill you've got!

[@lofcmatt]

A trip from Heathrow to Upminster that doesn't start or end at either of the stations :-)

[@widgeydog]

true blue or should i say true blue, green, orange, silver, green

[@norbitonflyer5625]

Could have started at Heathrow without paying any more, despite the absence of Tubes, since buses withi the Heathrow area are free.

[@RVNmax]

@@norbitonflyer5625 did you see the queues though :D

[@ItzMyko148]

alternative title, Hatton Cross to Elm Park for £1.50

[@peterkay8073]

As a Northerner it's hard to appreciate how far London transport boundaries extend. But 30 odd miles and 2.5 hrs for £1.50 seems like a good deal.

[@UTubeThePatient]

As Geoff proved that day, it can be grim down Saaaafff too.

[@AdamSmith-gs2dv]

If you want a true bargain come to NYC, you can make any single trip on the Subway system for only $3. That's only £2 and it is way larger than the Underground (it actually has the most stations out of any subway network in the world)

[@oscarhogan6662]

Adam Smith The London Underground is actually larger in track length, tho..

[@poltronafrau]

But the NY Subway has more drunken hobos, more rats, and more subway urine

[@Geotpf]

Or Los Angeles, believe it or not. The Gold Line goes all the way to Azuza (current last stop is APU/Citrus College), take that to Union Station, transfer to the either subway line (Red or Purple, doesn't matter, they both share stops downtown), then transfer at 7th Street Metro Center to either the Blue Line to Long Beach or the Expo Line to Santa Monica. APU to Long Beach is about 45 or 50 miles, Santa Monica is about 8 miles closer. AND, when the Regional Connector opens, the Gold Line and Blue Line will be interlined (two new stops downtown as well), eliminating the double transfer-it will all be one train. AND, they are extending the Gold Line all the way to Montclair in San Bernardino County, another 12.6 miles. So, when done, one train, 60 miles or so. All that for $1.75.

[@marvintpandroid2213]

What happens when you make a tube nerd jealous, you Turnham Green

[@Paul_Lucas]

Haha, superb. I’m going to remember that one.

[@rwk31hs93]

JavozREKZ / REKZboss omfg I found u again illuminati?

[@tomsmith5584]

They should make a Monument to that, and you can take it to (the) Bank.

[@colinclarke4285]

I would have thought they would end up barking mad

[@tomsmith5584]

Colin Clarke I think we should all go to a Swiss Cottage after that.

[@nathanw9770]

Fun fact: the shortest distance you can travel in London for £1.50 is between Catford Bus Garage (Bus stop BN) and Bellingham Road (Bus stop BQ). It's a distance of just 82m.

[@willemcopson7063]

And obviously all staircases traversed in the video are equivalent to a 15 storey building.

[@eljakimdeclerck1941]

my house has 21 steps, which is equivalent to a 15 storey building

[@RocketJSykes]

y e s. why do tube stations have to deeper than the height of an apartment block

[@TheArkamedBat]

My apartment is on a 4th floor, which is equivalent to 15 stories.

[@Carl_Thompson]

It would have cost over a £100 in a taxi and still taken 2 1/2 hours probably :-)

[@chunkylefunga]

Mate it's £100 just to go from Picadilly to Heathrow, so you're talking more like 250 easily.

[@janani1826]

But luggage and toddlers don’t go on trains easily...

[@danielgonzalezjr8350]

chunkylefunga £250 for a taxi, I live in NYC and someone would have called the driver a scumbag.

[@SharkVaderYT]

it takes £30 from Hammersmith to heathrow

[@jimmcdiarmid7308]

@@janani1826 I have done luggage easily on the tube on my 4 visits to London

[@bushyconn]

I remember , as a very young person, in 1945, spending a whole day on the tube for sixpence. This included all the interchange stations other than the few where you ad to leave the station to get on the other line. What a marvellous day that was; never forgotten it.

[@luxxy7x]

yh cuz they were free to be used as bomb shelters

[@RomySews]

When I realised I can get off at Mornington Crescent instead of Euston to stay in Zone 2, plus my railcard, my daily commute costs £2.70. Happy days :D

[@danlyle531]

I don't live in London, I rarely go to London, I rarely use public transport alone, but there's something so appealing about listening to someone talk so enthusiastically about the Underground

[@oysterfarescentral]

It's a real shame TfL won't allow an OSI between Acton Town and South Acton. That would save quite a chunk on that journey.

[@saxbend]

Mike Whitaker that's a good 15 minute walk!

[@ianmcclavin]

A pity some of the route's been built on, a Parry People Mover would be ideal now!!

[@oysterfarescentral]

saxbend There are longer OSIs, eg Bromley North to South and Ickenham to West Ruislip.

[@oysterfarescentral]

Maybe if you are Usain Bolt. My website says it's 0.7m or 13 minutes. See www.oyster-rail.org.uk/map/ickenham-to-west-ruislip/

[@oysterfarescentral]

Which is the same distance as the Actons taken from the nearest exits to each other.

[@crazysharkgaming8947]

9:22 I've been to Upminster before, and you can actually check your balance on the machines there. Also, it is much quicker to take National Rail between West Ham and Upminster, and it won't cost you anything extra

[@davidjablonski_]

Afaik, you can check your balance but not your journey history. Journey history is only available on TfL machines. (But yes, he said he wanted to check his balance and that should absolutely be possible.)

[@MarkWhiley]

Came to the comments to post both of those points. Where most of my family live so I'm a frequent visitor.

[@JoshuaFawcett]

As someone who likes trains a little, £1.50 for 2 and half hours of sightseeing seems like a total bargain to me. Bet you could get some decent photos too.

[@joshuathompson7333]

Joshua Fawcett probably, now I wish I lived in London

[@DSQueenie]

I'm going to be real with you unless the sightseeing you like is urban dwellings and some factories and maybe the West Ham Stadium at the Olympic Park you're going to be disappointed. Train lines rarely get the "visitor views" if you know what I mean.

[@ShoaibKhan-bz5qm]

Joshua Fawcett Can you still donit

[@Larwood.]

There might be better routes for sightseeing purposes.

[@lylal9092]

You don't see anything on the tube just darkness or some factories if you want the views take the bus.

[@mirageinthedesert5448]

Title: Heathrow to Upminster for £1.50 Does: Hatton Cross to Elm Park Is this CLICKBAIT

[@thataspieguy5244]

TWTrains no Elm Park was used becuase it was zone 6

[@thefountainpendesk]

Z-TeamProject i think it was supposed to be a joke

[@rail_roadgaming677]

There was a problem on the line so he have to start at zone 5 instead.

[@pikachu8508]

@@rail_roadgaming677 Doesn't matter because you still being charged Zone 2-6 fare. All journeys within Zone 2 to 6 are always £1.50 except LO Liverpool Street routes.

[@coastliner7009]

I agree

[@adampencharz]

What a fabulous waste of time. Loved it. Beautifully edited. 👍

[@matthewfield2958]

You can also walk from Heathrow to central London. I did it once due to complicated reasons but it is possible, it took me 4 hours and I was absolutely knackered but I didn’t have any other choice.

[@vanessaruiz4705]

way to go !! I think that is cool :)

[@Eden-rg2ul]

how do you exit heathrow on foot?

[@doma9584]

T4 you can walk to the hotels and out the hotels, T5 you can just walk out the front

[@moritzl7065]

Interesting nerdy fact: All tube stations not managed by TfL (Richmond, Wimbledon, Barking, Upminster) are all part of the District line.

[@jfw0382]

What about new cross Ik its over ground but used to be east london line

[@harryfoley2294]

lwfri3ecakt1hsehym it's not a tube station tho

[@travia6688]

lwfri3ecakt1hsehym new cross is a national rail (southeastern) managed station im pretty sure

[@bn56would]

@@harryfoley2294 New Cross IS a tube station

[@harryfoley2294]

Touchy Torchy it’s not you dickhead, it’s on the the London overground

[@bockersjv]

Some great mosaic tiles at Hatton Cross depicting the various Speed bird icons of BA and BOAC. The BA head office used to be called Speedbird house which could be seen from Hatton Cross bus station

[@BeccaSykes]

Used to do Romford to Richmond for next to nothing so long as I went via the overground at stratford, took forever but a really good money saver if you need to regularly do that journey! Glad you've highlighted that you can do this, to others.

[@joebarrett4353]

Best nerdy video yet Geoff! Loved every second and about to watch it all again now I've got the geography in my head!

[@ianmcclavin]

Yes unusual to depart eastbound from the westbound at Hatton Cross these days, although thankfully the reversing facility is still there, as it was of course the terminus for 2 years when it opened in 1975.

[@marlls1989]

Love your tube videos, reminds me fondly of the time I studied abroad in North Wales, every chance I had I would then head down to London... There is no city I feel more at home than London... Thanks for giving me a glimpse of the little things I miss so much. Hope someday to get back, perhaps for my PhD, and expect next time I could stay for good

[@ErnieSaint]

This is a classic Geoff Marshall!!! I cannot wait when he does more of these types of video!

[@dez3540]

I love how the Door Chimes are in time and also in tune with the background music at 11:35 haha!

[@shanefeather-lopez5935]

I work at Heathrow and live in Surrey. My partner used to work in Enfield and travel in from Hatton Cross. I found this handy little bit of information back then - saved us a fortune!

[@kismikola]

Wow Mate!! I cant believe You were literally standing a platform away infront of me on Acton Town and I haven't recognized you!! Cant wait to say Hi to you one day! I missed my chance this time AARGH.

[@tango602]

I remember going from High Barnet to Ealing Common once avoiding Zone 1 via Kentish Town, Kentish Town West, Kensington Olympia and Earl's Court once, took a while to make that journey but it's another trip that can be made for £1.50

[@TheArkamedBat]

Anything off-peak and w/out Zone 1 is £1.50

[@davidthaler7018]

As a matter of comparison, the "A" train on the NYC subway is the same length from Far Rockaway in the borough of Queens to Inwood in upper Manhattan. Since you pay a flat fare, you could travel the entire route for USD2.75 (approximately GBP2.25) in just under 2 hours. Further, the portion of the line in Queens is rather scenic, traveling over Jamaica Bay and along the Rockaway Peninsula adjacent to the Atlantic Ocean. You could continue your journey via a free transfer to a local bus until you reach the city limit, at which point, you'd have to pay another fare to use a suburban bus.

[@andrewwestbrook3470]

Even better, you can start in Tarrytown (NY), take the Bee Line route 1 to 242 St, transfer to the subway (free transfer), take the 1 to the A to Far Rockaway. Over 40 miles for $2.75. 3h35 hours according to Google maps. (Driving would be 1h25 at the moment and commuter rail + subway would be 2h20 for .)

[@ianwilson615]

I worked at Heathrow for 10 years back in the 90s and lived in London now live up north and All I can say is how much trains have changed so much better .price clean walk all the way from one end to the other

[@dn5026]

For those curious, you can do the following (Avoid Zone 1, see 4:38): 1) via Turnham Green, Gunnersbury and Stratford 2) via Turnham Green, Gunnersbury, Gospel Oak and Barking 3) via Earl's Court, West Brompton (or Kensington Olympia), Willesden Junction and Stratford (or Gospel Oak and Barking) Incidentally, only £1 with a relevant Railcard.

[@matta6044]

How about via Rayners Lane and West Hampstead?

[@PaulJaYmes]

What about via Earl's Court, West Brompton, Clapham Junction and Whitechapel?

[@ZamanSiddiqui]

Paul JaYmes Good question.

[@oysterfarescentral]

Sadly it wouldn't work that way because TfL haven't set up that route as an alternative option.

[@Cameramankeith]

Geoff, really like all the London transport related videos. One thing I've often wondered is if you ever get stopped by officials for filming whilst travelling about. Have often read stories about photographers being harassed for taking pictures of buildings etc in London and wondered what the official line was for allowing filming or photos whilst on public transport.

[@drspa44]

Technically, this is not the cheapest tube journey in London. Heathrow Terminal 4 to Heathrow Terminal 5 is free with an Oyster card. :P

[@yychen5809]

Or without.

[@wesleybowers4509]

Heathrow T2&3 to Terminal 5 is the cheapest T5 or T2&3 to T4 isn't the cheapest cause u have to change at Hatton X to get to Terminal 4

[@thisis_mudchute]

@@wesleybowers4509 hatton cross is in the free travel zone. even before it was, terminal 5 to terminal 4 was still free, even with changing at hatton cross (alternatively use HX/XR and change at central)

[@Angela-iv9np]

For the giggles you have made me want to try this out. I don't live that far ... an express bus ... from Heathrow. That is so tempting. I have a thing for travelling around London as cheap as possible. The oyster cap is a blessing for that.

[@drsteele]

The Express was off last week so had to take Tube from T5 to Euston at 6am, cost me £3.10 - was shocked. Thought it would be a lot more than that.

[@zeusrulez]

I used to live at Upminster and you can check your balance at the top main exit just like Elm Park, and you can check at the ticket machine at the main exit as well, it doesn't work as well at the C2C exit

[@peterellis9105]

Thanks Geoff. The pink oyster reader is saving me £1.20 in the evening by tapping it at Stratford (going from Caledonian Road & Barnsbury to West Ham)

[@th3sundaydriver66]

Thank you So much, Geoff, for putting together that PDF you have just made my life so much easier at work! Keep up the great content.

[@EM-yw2qr]

”The train is about to move”😂😂😂

[@roundel52]

EP3 Group Careful what you wish for!

[@crazyoncoffee]

John Smith yeah TfL have enough ideas already...

[@yeahnoway111]

they really need to stop with those announcements

[@adscri]

You can tap out with an Oystercard at Upminster. Plus you are allowed to use the Oystercard on main line trains from West Ham to Upminster.

[@DivineMrsM]

That's all v handy. Thanks Geoff. I was pretty pleased when I discovered my single journey from Tooting Broadway to Heathrow was only £3.10.

[@reemtruhmkorf3313]

Rewatching this video two years after upload. I forgot how much I love the song in this video.

[@inkyscrolls5193]

I live in God's Own County (Yorkshire) and have absolutely no interest in, or intention of ever going to, London - and yet for some reason I always find your videos fascinating. Grand work, sir. =D

[@victoriajames586]

Inky Scrolls you mean you actually chose to live outside the m25! I think that is weard

[@halimahocine943]

Inky Scrolls I live in west

[@samjones3819]

I saw the title and thought this was an old video, then I heard the opening music and was like oh no, it's casey-ified, definitely new. I.like this new style

[@cjidala7708]

Piccadilly: Hatton cross-Acton town District: Acton town-Turnham green Richmond branch: Turnham green-Gunnersbury Overground: Gunnersbury-Stratford Jubilee: Stratford-West ham Upminster branch: West ham-Elm park

[@Euannac]

You can get C2C to upminster or barking. Still would cost the same. I do it all the time.

[@raney150]

I have never been more glad that Chicago does a flat fare. Transfers between lines are also free at the same station. There are even 2 tunnels between the two busiest lines for free. All with a single tap.

[@thisis_mudchute]

Most interchanges in London don’t even require you to tap once though, some do require tap out and tap in but they are OSIs so it counts it as one journey

[@trampolini40]

Love the editing in this

[@iqbalchuvan4890]

Yesss i love it so much

[@jakubkarczmarczyk6726]

love your profile pic

[@Mesmancer]

Planning to go to London this year, taking the tube at random and see where I end up. This looks like a thing I could do :)

[@QuarioQuario54321]

In theory you can actually trick it into think you went a different way. Here’s how it would work: Start at Heathrow Get off at Earl’s Court Change to a train to Wimbledon Get off and tap the pink oyster at West Brompton Board a train to Upminster Get off at Mile End Change to the Central line Get off at Stratford Tap the pink oyster there Take Jubilee line to West Ham Get on District line to Upminster Exit at Upminster Congratulations, you have just made it think you didn’t go into zone 1 when you did. I doubt that it’ll find something strange after going around faster than normal.

[@highpath4776]

Think if you get a fares check on board you get funny questions why on a district you pink reader used (as you have not changed lines)

[@QuarioQuario54321]

@@highpath4776 You start on the Piccadilly, then district, then the Central, then the Jubilee, and district again.

[@highpath4776]

@@QuarioQuario54321 But your pink reader is for changing between Tube and Overground , your journey is wholly on the tube network. (question for viewers are there any pink readers at locations that are only tube network ones)

[@QuarioQuario54321]

@@highpath4776 Rayners Lane has a pink reader

[@thisis_mudchute]

at stratford, you'd have to walk the whole length of the horroble crowded underpass to the overground platforms, up the stairs, touch the reader, back down, back the whole way down the path (end to end again) and finally get on your jubilee/docklands train

[@HammaneggsAirborne]

I don't know if it's the music, the camera music, or both and something else I'm missing, but this video feel like it has an unusually happy tone to it.

[@Vyker]

Your editing has gotten much better in recent videos. Well done!

[@dazom]

Hopefully, TFL wont see this video regarding the zone caps. I could easily see them altering these zones by splitting them into East Zones and West Zones so there is no way this is possible.

[@tialaramex]

It's intentional. Zone 1 is very busy, central London is full of people for whom the Tube is the only practical way to get where they're going in a timely fashion. So, this pricing discourages people from going through Zone 1 on their way somewhere else. Most people won't go Heathrow to Upminster of course, but they might make small diversions to avoid Zone 1 for a local journey, and doing so frees up space in the core. The pricing difference was already the case _before_ Oyster came into existence fifteen years ago, it's just that paper tickets don't make it easy to differentiate customers who are genuinely taking a detour and those who are trying to get away without paying full fare.

[@Wildcard71]

If you want to avoid zone 1, using the Overground is the only option. This should be obstacle enough.

[@ianrazey8412]

In the 1980's when London transport introduced the zone system for Greater London, what is now zone 1 was split in two: a West End zone and a City zone. The Northern line from Waterloo to Euston was common to both.

[@EdgyNumber1]

7:46 Yes Geoff. I know. I used to have to use this stretch on my commute home from Palmers Green to Upton park... in sweaty old 3 car 313 units. Totally not fit for purpose, even in 2002.

[@EuanBCFC]

I’ll never forget the time I was on the platforms at Hatton Cross when it was closed

[@sntv1381]

Yes you can check your balance at Upminster. I live there. I go on the train there a lot

[@jpro3000]

When travelling between Gunnersbury and Stratford you can go right through Zone 1 (e.g. take the District line to Hammersmith, change for the Piccadilly and finally take the Central at Holborn) as there's no way for the system to know which route you actually took. It's useful to know if there's disruption on the Overground between these two stations.

[@skiguru99]

jpro3000 geoff’s video implies you only get the 1.50 price if it knows you didn’t go through zone 1 (by tapping on the pink readers). But if he’d gone to upminster thru zone 1 would it actually charge him more?

[@highpath4776]

@@skiguru99 James refers specifically to IN at Gunnersbury and OUT at Stratford (no pink reader use)

[@thisis_mudchute]

Can’t you also take district to Westminster and get jubilee?

[@jpro3000]

@@thisis_mudchute Yes, any route via Zone 1 will work, so long as you don’t have to touch in or out between the two stations.

[@ianrazey8412]

I did a similar thing several years ago going from Hounslow to Greenwich doing several changes and didn't go via zone one, by changing at Clapham Junction for the Overground. I did the same thing going to Alexandra palace.

[@Recessio]

Hang on Geoff, you clearly got on a non-refurbished Jubilee line train yet supposedly got off at West Ham on a refurbished one!

[@Albinary]

Recessio Noticed that.

[@themightywhoosh123]

Quickest refurbishment ever...!

[@iiExplosionz12]

Recessio No. That's because he got off from a non-refurbished train and he filmed the refurbished train departing from the E/B platform. That's what it was.

[@oysterfarescentral]

Or there might be a far more straightforward reason, but that's for Geoff to confirm. Did anyone clock which platform he got off onto at West Ham?

[@iiExplosionz12]

Mike Whitaker He got off from the W/B platform, next to the DLR platforms.

[@philippaboast8866]

Enjoyed your video. The 1.50 avoiding zone 1 is a great deal

[@Spaps0]

Well, the Out-of-station interchanges can save time, but also for a person like me who just likes changing all the time, it's fun! Yesterday I needed to go from Watford to Zone 1, I took the Overground to Kenton, changed for Northwick Park (OSI), Met to Harrow-on-the-Hill, and then Chiltern Railways to Marylebone. I'm planning to somehow get to Paddington from Watford soon, too.

[@keithdoherty8809]

Although it’s sign posted it’s quite a walk through the houses between. Kenton and Northwick Park - And yes I’ve done it once

[@Spaps0]

It is indeed, and can't make any detours really, only 20 mins allowed

[@benclarke4075]

I'm always surprised how much trains cost in the uk. Here in Sydney the weekly cap for opal card journeys is $50 ($25) and sunday cap is $2.80 ($1.40) this means you can take a 2 hour+ trip into either the sydney or newcastle CBD for less than a loaf of bread.

[@RetepElpmet]

Turnham Green is (or was) my 'local station'. I live in the US now but growing up, I fondly remember heading to Turnham Green. I always make it a point to just go there when I visit London, just for the memories. I really need to move back to London...

[@binubeaniebaby]

H&I to Stratford is part of my daily commute! Always packed especially in reverse at 6pm!

[@thisis_mudchute]

not too long ive got to say, although mine is less than Covent Garden to Leceister Square

[@pryn.darkstorm]

Well, if I ever have to land in Gatwick and catch another plane in Heathrow, I now know what to do. Also, if you do this journey, breaking the trip at Croydon will save you £2 Or you could just take the X26.

[@joermnyc]

Only if you have like 5 hours between flights.

[@davidlally592]

That bus takes quite some time!!

[@Donald_Chung]

Morden to Chesham via Balham, Clapham Junction and Finchley Road/Finchley Road & Frognal Richmond to Upminster via Stratford Heathrow Terminal 4 to Brentwood via Ealing Broadway, Shepherd's Bush and Stratford

[@judeh2646]

Just have to say that I love your videos - thanks for sharing them!

[@ELPaso1990TX]

I really enjoyed that. The underground fare pricing is far more reasonable than national rail. Even if you travel off peak and pay the full £12 capped fare and get on and off as many times as you like between Heathrow and Upminster it is still very cheap considering it’s over 40 miles from Heathrow to Upminster. Indeed you could travel almost 200 miles of Underground within zones 1-6 for £12. I can’t imagine how much that would cost if National rail or one of its TOCs ran the London Underground lol.

[@agent_605]

It would probably cost the same as TfL would still regulate it, and the TOCs don't set their fares either, the Department for Transport do

[@steffanbno]

I nearly did this alternate route when I went from Heathrow to Newbury Park last month, but I had my cabin bag and couldn't be bothered with the changes, so just did the tube from the airport through Zone 1 in the end :)

[@thisis_mudchute]

The other option is touch pink at Gunnersbury, go via Zone 1 to Startford, touch pink and get on the central line. Between Gunnersbury and Stratford, it thinks you take the overground apparently but ive never tried it so not 100% certain. It also means changing at Turnham Green for Richmond branch then going back up and to Westminster for the jubilee though. At Stratford, you also have to go to the overground platforms to touch the reader, then walk all the way back. If you dont want to do that, just touch out and touch back in (at the footbridge exit not the main one because main is busy footbridge is empty)

[@DSQueenie]

I used to do that overground journey all the time, from Acton Central it took 68 minutes to Hackney Wick. If it wasn't for Shorditch being in Zone 1 you could loop again on the overground the opposite way cheaply.

[@TheSpotify95]

I know it's the long way of doing the journey, but what you've just shown is definitely the way I'd do it, so long as I wasn't in a rush. Avoid Zone 1 and pay £1.50. Nice :)

[@Bovver_Boy]

Few years back, I was attending college in Uxbridge while attending Canningtown, used to take an awfully long route, which avoided zone 1 that would cost me £1.50. In principal you could do the same trip from Upminster.

[@shwetasabarwal1533]

my 6 yr old boy loves ur videos ...esp the ones where u tell secrects of the stations ....he wish to do videos like u someday .

[@rhan7177]

Also you can do from Chesham to Upminster which is £2.80

[@chocomanger6873]

Trick for seeing Tokyo for cheap: There is a circular train line that goes through most major parts of Tokyo. You pay per distance. Buy a ticket to the next station (the cheapest ticket available) and take the train the opposite way around. Also, I used to live in Toronto and they had a system where you could only go one way on a transfer, so if you were going northbound, you couldn't get off, do some shopping, then head back home on a transfer even if it was within the time limit. Anyway, I was a student with little money, but I'd have to take a trip downtown for an errand (eastbound). I couldn't get off the streetcar, do my errand, then head back the opposite way, so I got off, did my errand, then transfered to the subway going northbound. I could switch trains to the westbound train without going through any gates, get off at the closest subway station near my place, which was still a hike to the north, but get right on to the southbound streetcar there, again without having to go through a gate. Well, you had to be there, I guess. I got downtown, did my errand, and returned home on the same transfer, even though it wasn't supposed to be possible.

[@felipebaby7732]

You could go the train from feltham to Clapham junction, overground to Canada Water then jubilee West Ham and on the district line.

[@trainluvr]

I discovered a second place in NYC you can travel to by subway, leave and re-enter using a bus transfer-Rockaway Park. But you must ride the bus from at least one stop out from the subway terminal. The other place is the well known Lexington Ave 59th to 63rd transfer.

[@RickyNowis]

Interesting prices and the zones. Thanks Geoff for the tips of prices and zones. Think its worth a try.

[@stephbristow8012]

Upminster should have Oyster card readers, C2C are the national rail service that operate through there. They also operate through west ham who have oyster readers from when you tap in/out between the platforms for the national rail trains and the underground trains

[@siyuanhuo7301]

Now do the southern side of the city. Piccadilly line to Acton Town, District line to Turnham Green then Richmond, Southwestern to Clapham Junction, overground to either Canada Water (change to Jubilee), Whitechapel (District or H&C) or Shadwell (DLR). If traveling on DLR, change at Limehouse, otherwise change at West Ham to c2c and finish the journey at Upminster.

[@marcodamasio]

You could do the same, but instead of taking the Overground at Gunnersbury, you could take the District line, change with the Central line at Mile End and change with the Jubilee line. It’s probably longer, but you’ll be crossing the whole zone 1 paying just £1,50

[@marksmith-ew7ir]

Hi it's nice to see someone trying these things as others would have given up just thinking of doing such a ride but if you have time on your 👐 all well and good keep videos coming

[@charliechipchase2230]

Great to hear a classic Geoff Marshall fun fact about my local Turnham Green station!

[@rossarmstrong6731]

1. Use the Gospel Oak line to save time and less transfers. 2. I used to use the NLL line on my commute to Palmers Green. I saved practically half the cost on my monthly travelcard (remember those?) by simply not having Zone 1 on there. My journey was: Upton Park > West Ham - District West Ham > Highbury - NLL/Silverlink Highbury > Palmers Green - Hertford Loop/LNER (provided I was no longer than 35-40 seconds late departing West Ham) Obviously, with the changes that took place about a decade later, there's much more faffing around... 3. Yes, Stratford Highbury is popular - not fun in the summer but imagine it on a 4-car class 313 unit back in the day........

[@JohnWalshLegend]

Frequent Traveler to Budapest. 7 Day Travelcard for around £14. This Includes Peak Travel on Trains, Metro, HEV, Tram, Bus, and Boat within the large City Boundary. You would spend more than that in one day in London.

[@annother3350]

No you wouldn't. A travelcard is capped at around 11-12 pounds

[@MrLeeflemwell]

Why bother with the District from Barking? Use the C2C and knock a good chunk of time off your travel time.

[@mariamihailik5310]

c2c is national rail, so hed have to tap out

[@gennieseaview3656]

@@mariamihailik5310 No you don't have to tap out, you can get C2C (National Rail), from either West Ham or Barking at no extra cost.

[@angelaharvey4499]

If you just miss a C2C train during the off peak times at West Ham it is often better to get the district line. If the C2C train arrived within 10 mins it will be faster on the C2C from West Ham to Upminster.

[@ricktownend9144]

The disjointed interchange to get from the Piccadilly to Overground might be cut by walking from Acton Town to Acton Central (if that's an allowable OSI); Google Maps show that as 18 minutes (they don't quote a time for Geoff's triangular journey, so that presumably takes longer). Still, it's annoying that TfL don't provide a decent bus link between the two: by car (per G-Maps) it can be done in 7 minutes, so a bus might take 10 - and then go on somewhere else useful like Acton Mainline and/or North/East Acton (Central Line) Maybe, as and when the Dudding Hill to Brentford line is added to the Overground, they will add in an 'Acton Junction' station, with interchange platforms on the District & Piccadilly. That scheme seems to have faded into the future a bit, whereas a bus link could be done now!

[@FadeOutLetters]

Did a very similar thing when I lived in Willesden and worked in South Ealing. Took longer but saves the £ and was lovely and quiet!

[@ismoleppanen]

This information would have saved money, when I visited London in late September, and wanted to travel from Heathrow to West Croydon.

[@QuarioQuario54321]

I think between the two most expensive special fares apply zones going through every zone at least once is most expensive. It might be Shenfield to reading in the future

[@waleedarif6740]

Upminster is only two stops away from where I'm living right now (Laindon) and my dad used to take me up to Heathrow mainly for plain spotting when I was just a nipper.

[@atlaslex]

I used to travel from Walthamstow to Kew daily for 1.50. Yay for the overground.

[@clembu2275]

I was working at Hounslow Central during the suspension that day. Was due to a broken rail and emergency engineering work but it wasn’t shut down for too long.

[@robertmcphee4736]

I have done Epping to Clapham Junction for £1 - Senior Railcard linked to Oyster Card - via Canada Water.

[@Merseynwresponses]

I vividly remember watching this for the first time. 3 years ago.

[@8yr0n_q]

Cool video Mr Marshall! Not sure that I like the choice in edit style and also music, but that's just my opinion. What I will say is that one can never have too much Geofftech content! ;D (I have watched many times the Secrets series... Could do it word for word in some parts ;] )

[@stephendines1936]

You could have got a C2C train between West Ham & Upminster. There is Oyster card readers at Upminster.

[@mikehindson-evans159]

Fascinating, maybe a bit pointless, but useful to know and oh so British pottering about on a rainy day around London. Thanks for the research.

[@nuuttihelimaki7488]

Make more off these longer tube journeys!

[@SmileyNerd128]

I'm liking the zooms and jumpcuts to the music