Heating system with multiple issues fixed

Day in the life of a plumber
In todays video I sort out a problem with "pumping over" on a heating system, I show my tips and tricks and what I look out for.
As always, thanks for all the support, it is so greatly appreciated
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[@garydulson9018]

One thing my dad showed me many years ago was with open vents, was to get a pint pot half full of water and put it on the vent. You could see if it was sucking in or over pumping. We did a lot of solid fuel and we all know the issues with the "British Gas" air separators blocking up! Great content as always mate, have a good week

[@PlumbLikeTom]

Good tip that, I don't like air seps that much as like you say they always block, I normally just use two tees within 150mm of each other, thanks for watching Gary 👍

[@garydulson9018]

@PlumbLikeTom Yep I always do the same, cut air separators out. 2 Ts 6" apart. Question I never really had any issues with the old Pegler ones, don't know if you've come across them? Cheers mate

[@lawrencepeters4139]

Nice one Tom On most pumps it tells you minimum head required and that looked like you was on less than minimum just check to save your self only way is to raise header tank Regards Lawrence Peters

[@GasmanChris5705]

Top job as always Tom, Jacob in good hands 👍

[@PlumbLikeTom]

Thanks for the support as always Chris

[@dvdallison]

Nice vid and Great to see you passing your wisdom onto Jacob 👍

[@PlumbLikeTom]

Thanks for the support as always mate, you have to keep passing on the knowledge, I won't be here forever

[@tonymurff5234]

Great video as always Tom, 👍👍🤜🤠

[@PlumbLikeTom]

Thanks for the support as always Tony 👍

[@chrisholt2474]

Hi Tom, another interesting film there thank you, I hope the pumping over the vent problem was sorted out. Yes it’s amazing how many so called installers don’t properly seal the flue pipe. Have a great week and as always take care Tom. 👍👍👍

[@PlumbLikeTom]

Thanks for the support as always Chris, I assume it must be fixed as I haven't been back, the system was all nice and quiet when I left with no signs why it should pump over, flues not sealed is all too common 👍

[@brianmayne6513]

Another good job Tom

[@PlumbLikeTom]

Thanks for the support as always Brian

[@rossnolan2883]

Brilliant 🤩

[@PlumbLikeTom]

Thanks for the support as always Ross 👍

[@andrewoleary9704]

Another great and informative video mate!

[@PlumbLikeTom]

Thanks for the support as always Andrew

[@tirvplumbing]

Interesting fault finding video enjoyed this one😊

[@PlumbLikeTom]

Thanks for the support as always mate, glad you enjoyed

[@thomascoyne157]

Very nicely worked out 👍👍👍👍👍

[@PlumbLikeTom]

Thanks for the support as always mate

[@jameswilson2899]

Nice work Tom.

[@PlumbLikeTom]

Thanks for the support as always James

[@MegaShan001]

Another good video Tom 👍🏻

[@PlumbLikeTom]

Thanks for the support as always Shaun

[@Heatking]

Good video Tom, looked an awkward space to work in too. As usual haha! Keep them coming 🎉

[@PlumbLikeTom]

Thanks for the support as always Dan

[@pb9926]

Good video Tom. 😎👍

[@PlumbLikeTom]

Thanks for the support as always PB

[@Oiledballs-wu1cm]

Forget Worcester 😂 Baxi all day long nice work Tom.

[@PlumbLikeTom]

Fair mate, I do quite like the Worcester's but I know I'm in the minority, it could be a lot worse though, thanks for watching

[@diddywright6165]

Good content again Tom, I like how you think aloud! 👍🏻

[@PlumbLikeTom]

Thanks for the support as always mate, first sign if going crazy is when you start talking to yourself, I do it all the time

[@diddywright6165]

Me too! But you always meet a better class of person that way😂

[@pookievision]

Good lad 🤟

[@PlumbLikeTom]

Thanks for the support mate

[@peterdawson5115]

Another one solved, the joys of open vent, and dirty systems, and too many restrictions, at least everything was at hand, take care Tom. 🚽👍

[@PlumbLikeTom]

Thanks for the support as always Peter, like you say at least everything was nice and easy to get at

[@mikeolin2561]

speed 3 would defo be to high for such a low lever expansion vent . and if it was nocked back to even 2 but id prefer 1 .even and iknow it would take a little longer to heat but speed 3 defo high . and rise that expansion by bringint it into the apex even making it longer into the highest part of the apex,, i have seen the expansion brought through a slate roof straight up into the outside .lol and returned and flashed with lead to cure this lol . .needs must mate l. keep up the good work Tom . great hard worker and Jacob good y felllow they are harder to come by these days .. young fella dont like getting dirty hands these days .lol esp when clearing backed up soils . lol .

[@PlumbLikeTom]

Thanks for the support as always mate, I left the pump on speed 2 in the end, I find speed 3 helps to clear the air if the system is struggling to circulate after draining. I agree with you about the vent pipe, it probably could have been a bit higher but the system seemed to be working OK when I left. I did get a call back last Friday to this which I still need to get back to, the radiators are coming on with the hot water now. It was fine for a bit apparently so I guess the 3 port must be passing. There was a lot of rubbish in the system and I did recommend a flush

[@colintownsend5024]

👍👍

[@PlumbLikeTom]

Thanks for the support as always Colin 👍

[@JSSHandP]

Looked risky touching those pump valves!

[@PlumbLikeTom]

I did change them in the end, thanks for the support as always mate

[@jasonwhittle5008]

Nice one 😊

[@PlumbLikeTom]

Thanks for the support as always Jason

[@johnwaby4321]

Nice jobs there Tom and teaching Jacob.👍👍 Did you recommend a system clean and then putting in an inhibitor. The dreaded rustvin the system. 😯😯

[@PlumbLikeTom]

I did John but I don't think the customer will go for it, I showed them the water sample, it must have been pumping over a while, all I can do is fix what I can a recommend what I think would be best, thanks for watching as always

[@johnwaby4321]

Thats all you can do Tom. Is advise 👍

[@grahamshillingford8229]

Tom, do you fit many vented systems any more? From the look of that system the feed tank seems quite low. Isn't there a minimum height that they are suposed to be above the pump & vent & feed location? I think its a much simpler system with a less complicated boiler. Provided the pipework is correct..

[@dennisphoenix1]

Could you do away with the air separator and pipe in a H shape , vent and fill in the top ?

[@PlumbLikeTom]

That's what I normally do, I don't like air seps that much, as long as the vent and feed are within 150mm they should be fine, thanks for watching as always mate 👍

[@Craiggilhomephe]

Have you never thought about testing the water in the system the corrosion is there for a reason. Iron levels,ph levels?

[@PlumbLikeTom]

I do carry the test strips which I use when servicing boilers. This system had been pumping over for a while and the red colour is rust from the radiators which will have been corroding from the inside due to oxygenated water. Ideally it needs a full flush and then correct levels of inhibitor adding which I did quote for. Thanks for watching

[@Craiggilhomephe]

@@PlumbLikeTom test strips are ok but i use test pens they are a lot more accurate what I'm finding is there is a direct relation between the fill water and problems with the system later (with or without inhibitors) so flushing is not the answer in some cases treatment of the water to vdi2035 standard would always be my first option and accurate testing on the annual service.

[@deathstr0kexorn765]

Was it pumping over all time or just when heating or water on by themselves? Had it where coil was restricted in cylinder so only pumps over on HW and also had it on microbore Restricting heating flow

[@PlumbLikeTom]

A believe it was all the time, the header tank was constantly overflowing and the system was noisy, it could have been boiling a bit if the pump was weak or restricted, I didn't run it when I went as I didn't want things hot to work on, thanks for watching

[@burntre1]

What’s the minimum distance for a fuse board from gas meter please?

[@PlumbLikeTom]

150mm, the new gas meter shouldn't have really been fitted, there wasn't so much I could do about it other than advise the customer, the fuse board will need upgrading soon to metal so it will then need to moved to the correct clearance, thanks for watching

[@burntre1]

@@PlumbLikeTom cheers Tom 👍

[@Nihilumbra]

Том привет, подскажи пожалуйста, что за белая мазь, которую ты наносишь под фитинг? Название или ссылку на продукт.

[@PlumbLikeTom]

It is jet blue, I will see if I can find a link, thanks for watching

[@kierangravely3369]

Do you work for company or yourself?

[@PlumbLikeTom]

I work for my families business, thanks for watching

[@56ty78ui]

Jacob not a fan of soldering then!

[@PlumbLikeTom]

You can probably blame me for not getting him a press gun, every job and situation is different and sometimes when you are in a roof it can be tricky to solder, the most important thing is keeping the water in the pipes, thanks for watching

[@Purebeltersteve]

Would of been so easier just to seal that system mate. Old pipework will hold easily 😂😂

[@PlumbLikeTom]

It is a risky business that, I have done it in the past and have been caught out a couple of times, somethings are best just left as they were, thanks for the support as always 👍

[@SuperWayneyb]

🤘😎🤘🫖☕️

[@PlumbLikeTom]

Thanks for the support as always Wayne

[@peterreid4567]

Air separators are shite. That set up someone has done is dreadful. You can make your own H. A pump in different position and vent ect and put the pimple on 2. Won’t pump over Problem is peoples previous dreadful pipe work and design

[@PlumbLikeTom]

I agree, air seps are rubbish, I normally just put in two tee's like you say, it's Ok for now though, thanks for watching

[@TomChapman-wv9iq]

Get a new brush ffs lol

[@PlumbLikeTom]

That is my good one, I've had that since I've started and it was second hand then, there are still some bristles on it but the end is nearly down to the wood. my newer one that I've only had 6 years has already fell to bits, thanks for watching mate 👍