Heavens Gate - Student Exit Statements

[@Michiganders]

Video should never be removed. It holds profound educational value to the fields of Sociology, Psychology, Psychiatry and Theology. Absolutely terrifying. The members appear clinically brainwashed and robotic. Condolences to the families and survivors of Cult trauma. Tragic and senseless loss of life.

[@mark7831]

Religion really Feaks me out even thinking adults believe in a higher being scares me that's why I've never practiced something so ridiculous

[@bannedfor30daysonfacebook41]

Very well said. Tragic history needs to be rembered, studied and prevented from happening in the future.

[@glenncambray626]

You are right. It is a very important document.

[@macglencoe9852]

"clinically brainwashed"?

[@Michiganders]

@@macglencoe9852 "institutionalized" in appearance

[@mikefontes633]

When Lvvody, at 13:45, with her voice quavering, shows real human emotion, obviously contemplating her death, she is "pulled back into line" by the collective derisive laughter of the group, which denies both her humanity and dignity. Icy, eerie and terrifying!

[@Michiganders]

Well said. Heartbreaking.

[@Mark-lj1dj]

Its like very bad canned laughter on a sitcom. The one next to her even turns to her as if talking. Very sad

[@adampnewsome]

I thought the exact same thing.. it was so unsettling

[@ForageGardener]

14:45. The woman explains that the leader "pushed out" people who showed dissent, and that's why is okay because all the people who stayed didn't show dissent so obviously its all okay she says. No recognition that what she is describing is "splitting behavior" and meant to isolated a victim from alternative opinions and voices who may influence them away from the one who is manipulating them.

[@saelaird]

Yes yes yes. I'm so pleased you made that comment. I felt exactly the same when I watched that moment... it's was so deeply unsettling and hints at the deep disregard that the group had for their own humanity.

[@-D3m0nikaSpirit-]

In order to once again humanize these faces... here are all their names; Judith Rowland, Cheryl Butcher, David Van Sinderen, Alan Bowers, Margaret Bull, Alphonzo Foster, David Moore, Julie LaMontagne, Darwin Lee Johnson, Robert Arancio, Gary Jordon St. Louis, Ladonna Brugato, Joel Peter McCormick, Gail Maeder, Thomas Nichols, John Craig, Margaret Richter, Susan Elizabeth Nora Paup, Michael Barr Sandoe, Norma Jeanne Nelson, Suzanne Cooke, Jaqueline Leonard, Susan Strom, Yvonne McCurdy-Hill, Denise J. Thurman, Lindley Ayerhart, Jeffrey Howard Lewis, Erika Ernst, Lucy Eva Pesho, Joyce Skalla And of course the their leader Marshall Herff Applewhite (Do) May they all rest well 💟

[@SnozberriesTasteLikeSnozberrys]

Thank you

[@deanothemanc5281]

Bit of class doing that, it makes them human and individual, which is how they should be remembered.

[@AndJusticeForMe]

Rest well? They’re riding a freakin spaceship!

[@mercherolvaag4717]

Thank you. One of the victims of this cult was a childhood friend of mine. Such a terrible waste of a kind and intelligent person's life!

[@jamesradskijr.9745]

​@@mercherolvaag4717could have done and accomplished so so much more here in her "vehicle" then listening to some pathetic excuse me if you will coocoo bird 🐦 brainwashing cult leader who is so unhappy in his own vehicle, as someone said 1 suicide and 38 murders.

[@Cheerupbookclub]

Chkody (Erika Ernst) 52:46 joined with her long term boyfriend Frank Lyford at the age of 21 and didn’t choose to leave with him after 18 years. Frank is now 66 and lives in Kansas as a life coach. He has given multiple interviews and says the trauma has left him with a lasting speech impediment. So sad for all involved. 🥺

[@DigUpHerBones85]

He likes to also play a lot of different instruments. Wasn't he the one that the tapes were mailed to?

[@Michael_Arguello]

Anyone who loves their spouse more than Christ is in for a rude awakening when the other person feels differently. It is what it is. It has been written.

[@mcnugget118]

A lot of these poor people were just outcasted from society and were looking for a place to belong. You can tell some of them in this video were starting to have second thoughts but probably wouldn't dare say a thing because they didn't wanna lose the respect of who they thought were their only friends and companions

[@Michael_Arguello]

@@mcnugget118 they were outcasted after they departed. And guess what. They could care less what you think. That’s a luxury for only authentic people to enjoy. Now, where’s that winky face emoji at?

[@exeliminal]

its really unnerving to watch these goodbye messages knowing that these were the last moments of them ever being seen alive. this is really hard to watch, my heart goes out for the victims and their families. ive learned so much about this cult recently, and it's shocking how fragile the human psyche is, and how vulnerable these people were to being brainwashed by Applewhite, and Nettles when she was alive.

[@CygnusBard]

The last time they were seen alive was at a diner. They were all in uniform and had a uniform last meal of sweet tea, cheesecake and a Marie Calender pot pie. The server who attended their tables was reported as being 'highly disturbed by the event'. What I find highly disturbing is the scripture connection here. "I am the way and the light" at the time of annihilation for a Heaven's Gate member and Jonestowns' end days quote from John 15: 13 "Greater love hath man than this, that a man should lay down his life for his friends." Kinda fucked that Christianity could be perverted by such monsters as Jim Jones and Marshall Applewhite.

[@matiasnigrum1348]

....the point is that they were all very humble people, well educated not evil at all but Marshall Alpelwhite somehow hipnotized them and persuaded to the level that they really believe that after death they will change body an fly to another planet...they even cried when they were talking about this event, so much they were convinced and emotional... incredible indeed....

[@That_Reikigirl_Sims]

This whole video seems very eerie to me I get the chills when I watch it...

[@Mauro-ot2ux]

It’s called natural selection and it’s ok. Imagine people teaching their children this utter bs.

[@spenceragain]

Also kinda fucked that this nonsense can be perceived as being any different from the nonsense in the bible and many other similar works of fiction. Humans are bizarre creatures.

[@Erwin3333]

Kind souls. Nothing but love for all of them.

[@Mark-lj1dj]

Agreed. They all thought they were doing the right thing and never wanted to hurt anybody

[@mindsigh4]

thank you, i was reading some of the comments and yours made me stop looking, you said what needed to be said..

[@heathernikki5734]

❤❤❤

[@asylumnurse88]

How can you love someone you never met?

[@alexanderg1297]

Even Applewhite, who brainwashed 39 innocent and sick people to their death?

[@eventev3700]

What terrifies me about this is how intelligent and articulate all of these people are. It just goes to show that anybody can be manipulated into doing something like this

[@sunwukong7567]

Back then, people in general were more eloquent, articulate, it seems.

[@MattStait]

More insightful and articulate than their leader.

[@matiasnigrum1348]

@@sunwukong7567 back then when?...25 years ago is not so many time ago...u got articulate people nowadays as well...

[@sunshinepoppy8459]

Yes, he manipulated and controlled them. He also gave them a feeling of belonging, he made them feel special and chosen for this "mission." It is beyond sad.

[@mariomoscaritolo636]

they already had hate for this world thats all do do bird needed to slip them the cocktail this is not rocket science

[@YourFreeBeats]

1:47:25 Poor kid. You get the sense he had no idea of what was going on… “No matter what happens or what it is, I’m just gonna trust my older members” etc. ugh.

[@kevinswift8654]

Ouch. Thanks for pointing that out, I wasn't going to sit through the whole 2 hours. That's shocking.

[@JarthenGreenmeadow]

He just wanted the older members' respect. Look at how he looks at the man with him. The sheer admiration on his face.

[@crazycrittergirl7672]

I get the feeling some of the people in this group were intellectually disabled. Smiley Srrody with the big glasses at the beginning just has such a childlike innocence about him, as does the kid in purple. He even talked about himself as being the "cause of problems".

[@YellowBriefs]

@@crazycrittergirl7672 that guy was an assembly programmer, so definitely not mentally challenged, maybe more like socially challenged

[@sam9671]

@@crazycrittergirl7672 both this young man and srrody were castrated. just letting you know

[@chynnadoll3277]

The kid on the right in the first interview seemed like such a sweet kid. I wonder if he had been bullied. People who have his disposition usually are. He really touched my heart; such a beautiful smile. This world is very cruel.

[@N00019]

I would lean towards yes. Applewhite and Nettles recruited a lot of people that were considered outcasts and didn't really have a lot of friends.

[@jamesgardner6707]

​@@N00019thats not true, they didnt recruit outcasts.

[@monty0289]

​@jamesgardner6707 are you being serious? They were all total nutcases!!!!

[@chrismeza418]

@@jamesgardner6707weak brain, can’t think for themselves, need someone to follow, yeah that’s an outcast.

[@hugh-jasole]

​@@jamesgardner6707evidence?

[@ROCK35377]

Watching this we should all make an effort to be nicer to people who are considered "odd" or "outcasts." All humans need to feel acceptance and the lunatics who run these scam cults prey on this. It's sad watching their "happiness" which is actually a lifelong cry they felt for belonging.

[@insertusernamehere8575]

They didn't do it cause they where depressed they did it cause they where Koo koo

[@luciferscatmilk]

What a bland response. You’re an idiot

[@pacman071]

1:06:40 The saddest of them all

[@spiritualityanimals3760]

You are not sad for them. Your empty words will not be followed by actions.

[@spiritualityanimals3760]

@Dennis Plum : You like every other slob, only loves their immediate family. And stop babbling about Evolution, you creep.

[@jeffreystiles1102]

“Lvvody” looks and sounds utterly FRIGHTENED at 13:45 and doesn’t even crack a smile or nervously join the laughter of the members watching behind the camera as she talks about her imminent suicide. This completely contradicts the narrative about the peace, happiness, and free will with which these poor souls were coerced to take their own lives. So sad.

[@matiasnigrum1348]

Actually she was extremely excited and extremely grateful to be part of this group and to have the opportunity to live her vehicle and to go to the next level...

[@crazycrittergirl7672]

@@matiasnigrum1348 No snark intended; just curious. Are you a former member of the group?

[@scottistrad]

She was actually one of the last to die

[@katakovacs2066]

To me it looked more like she had a strong emotional moment rather than fear

[@puercoespineta]

@@katakovacs2066 Shes saying she couldnt be happier about what shes about to do, being emotional doesnt mean she was happy, she was frightened

[@orange_turtle3412]

“There were 38 murders and 1 suicide”

[@leobardobivianomedia]

That’s deep

[@pribilovian4709]

I'm pretty sure the creepy leader guy couldn't even do it himself and had the other members off him

[@orange_turtle3412]

@@pribilovian4709 Hes still responsible for all of their deaths. He indoctrinated them with his insane ramblings and convinced them that death was their only choice for their souls to survive. He killed himself, but he also, in a way, killed the other 38 who died with him.

[@pribilovian4709]

@orange_turtle3412 oh I know he's responsible...a video I seen tho said he didn't drink the kool-aid or whatever and had some of the guys put a bag over his head instead...I dont know if thats true, I will never know but just wanted to point out how hypocritical it was of him if it is true

[@orange_turtle3412]

@@pribilovian4709 The Kool Aid is a completely different cult. These guys killed themselves with phenobarbital and vodka. But yes, there was a guy who suffocated the leader (and the others who needed it) with a bag and “organized” the bodies before he killed himself last.

[@matthewdefinis9303]

This just sincerely goes to show how fragile the human mind really is,

[@bendikklungsyr2393]

Sort of. But at the same time it is unheard of for any other species to self destruct in the quest of an idea. It's inherently contradictory with evolution

[@rogerbelger2014]

@@bendikklungsyr2393 wow , thats true, good point

[@bendikklungsyr2393]

@@rogerbelger2014 Cheers bud

[@gowdsake7103]

@@bendikklungsyr2393 Umm gonna explain that ?

[@bendikklungsyr2393]

@@gowdsake7103 i mean what species kill themselves for the purpose of an abstract idea. evolutionary we are scared of death and programmed to wanna survive. i know there are exceptions, but this is not the same as a suicide from depression or an irratonal act of affection...

[@joshfump8238]

I am most disturbed by the fact that they all seem happier than me lol

[@ttFATALERROR]

Imagine if you were told tomorrow you will inherit 1billion and sail the rest of your life on a extravagant yacht for the rest of your life and believed it. I bet you'd be happy af about tomorrow.

[@johngoldsworthy7135]

They were in a state of permanent hypnosis. It’s like asking why a suicide bomber is happy before doing his ‘mission.’ It’s mind rape

[@madeline3868]

That’s coming with [redacted] in general. People with depression suddenly having a happier disposition and seeming cheerful once they’ve committed to [redacted]. Which is why it may come as such a shock if someone you know passes away in that manner, they’d seem to be really happy lately…

[@ItsSauIGoodman]

Depression is grounding

[@ClownTown15000]

Insane people are happy.

[@frankesposito2182]

These people,.. didn't want to die,..they enjoyed each other's company because they were lonely and Lost Souls !!! They were coerced into smiling on the video. They were just as afraid of anyone there to take their own lives.

[@bradystafford7654]

I disagree. I believe that some of them truly believed that suicide would bring them to the other side Like Mr. Applewhite and SRRODY. Most of them had some mental issues that caused them to be manipulated easily.

[@mariomoscaritolo636]

they didnt want to be here because of their hate for this earth thats all do needed to slip them the cocktail

[@aka_rook]

No, they wanted this. You clearly didn't watch the video and have little knowledge of the circumstances.

[@puercoespineta]

@@aka_rook youre just projectiong your own lack of information

[@Michael_Arguello]

If you only knew that what you just did is referred to as projecting. It is in fact you who is scared of death (why you don’t understand their calm and fearlessness). You claim they were coerced, but where is the proof beyond your bold statement. Maybe you understand how to coerce. ;) You claim they were just as afraid as everyone there. Were you there to speak with them about this, or are you just making a subjective assumption? You should already know the answer.

[@nataweezz]

The paradox of this is so wild. I don't even know if that's a strong enough word for what's happening here, but the LITERAL CONTRAST of these alive and well, bubbly and personable, witty and even funny people.. with oodles of potential.. against the beautiful background of the video- nature being naturally awesome, the birds chirping, and the whole Earth just sitting behind them to give them everything it has to offer. I remember playing pretend, and that feeling that you really do get from being immersed in an entire world of your own imagination and creation is unforgettable. Fantasy can be intoxicating. Coming out of that "trance" and remembering that the box was just a box and not a spaceship left a feeling of disappointment, maybe even emptiness. The real world can certainly seem boring in comparison. I would imagine this is similar in a way, at least on a very basic level. It's beyond unfortunate that the larger-than-life figures that scooped them up and carried them away weren't ones who would use their combined influence to show them all the things we can do outside of the box. Right here, right now, in this life here on Earth.

[@JacobAbrams-u3t]

Well writtem

[@HG-pi3qp]

great post

[@allisoncook4589]

Absolutely. Absolutely 😓

[@chazlon5061]

you sounds like you're trying to hard to sound smart

[@Michael_Arguello]

Oodles of potential to be a supply for a narcissistic abus3r? Come one…who are you fooling? Not me. The real world can certainly seem boring, you say? Boredom settles into the boring mind you know. They had focus and discipline, but you seek to be entertained. Maybe it is you who are in a “trance.” But believe what you will.

[@CrochetLover85]

1:08:47 this guy breaks my heart more than anyone else. “This vehicle had dreamed of going to Ireland some day”

[@Mark-lj1dj]

He had a sizeable trust fund that he gave to the group. It kept them going for a good few years apparently. I think he came from a privileged background but just wanted to do something different with his life. Unfortunately he ended up joining this group and it somehow fulfilled his needs

[@elguero933]

@@Mark-lj1dj alright, so he was the trust fund guy? Yes, it kept them going from 75 to around 1980

[@frightfright3843]

This is really sad, but these people care more about the next level and ti and do than their own children. Not all had kids, but the ones who did it’s just sickening.

[@Knifymoloko]

They must have been suffering deep down inside whether they realized or not. Many people have committed suicide that seem like they had it all. In the end it is senseless to pass judgement on such things. One's time too will come. Enjoy you moment.

[@fabiwilliams4644]

Yes I feel a sense of judgement that they should discard their children & their responsibilities. They've left them feeling discarded & unloved. There is plenty of time to die when the living is done. The living wasn't done

[@Michael_Arguello]

The Bible says to love God more than your own children or spouse. To have identity in Christ is more important than to have identity of anything in this world or with any of His creations. According to the Bible, and to what they believed in their hearts to be true, they earned the highest ranks with the Lord. It doesn’t matter what you believe about them. What matters is what they believed. But you do you, boo.

[@chrisoj]

Yeah Dvvody had 5 kids and had just had twins. Her and her husband dumped the lot of them to join this cult. The husband left but according to news reports didn't bother to get his kids back, just get her back. She sits in this video and says she has no regrets and there's nothing here for her. It's really hard to feel any sympathy for her

[@drumtheraver9452]

I can't help but notice the beautiful trees and the sounds of the birds in the surrounding trees, surely the questioned that where they are is some what of a blessing in some way? I'd stay put

[@sickcrimeinc]

Napoleon Hill once said '' IT IS WELL KNOW FACT THAT ONE COMES, FINALLY, TO BELIEVE WHATEVER ONE REPEATS TO ONE'S SELF, WHETHER THE STATEMENT BE TRUE OR FALSE. IF A MAN REPEATS A LIE OVER & OVER, HE EVENTUALLY ACCEPT THE LIE AS A TRUTH.

[@TheyBenefit]

And I believe this applies even to the afterlife. You can see it in accounts of NDEs.

[@Michael_Arguello]

@@sickcrimeinc so if you repeat Bible scripture than you subject yourself to the highest form of higher level neurolinguistic programming to have ever existed.

[@PrincessMicrowave]

One of the wildest things about this is that the majority of what they say does not sound crazy at all, and sounds very much like the religion I was raised in, Mormonism. The only difference is that they were asked to commit suicide literally instead of only figuratively as Mormons do. I already knew I was raised in a cult, but the fact that these testimonies literally feel THE SAME as Mormon testimonies with a few different words

[@swaglike2802]

Except it sounds nothing like Mormonism and you gave no proof lol!

[@PrincessMicrowave]

@@swaglike2802 didn't realize it was required to post a bibliography for a KZbin comment lol. Go look it up yourself if you care. In my opinion it sounds very similar. That's the end of my KZbin comment

[@swaglike2802]

@@PrincessMicrowave i mean you already posted a novel! Why would a few examples be so hard nerd!! It's because you don't know what you talking about!!

[@eronpowell6008]

I too grew up Mormon and had the exact same feeling listening to them. They way they buttress their statements with “I know there will be some who think that x.” The way they walk about having an undeniable experience telling them it is true. The way they bear testimony. The way they speak of the world vs their higher understanding, etc. really really scary.

[@PesquisasMormonas]

I'm actually preparing an episode for my podcast about mormonism on these guys because their testimonies are so eerily similar

[@jollyroger4699]

These people obviously felt very very lost in the real world and were desperate to belong !

[@Karmen2010]

And they seem so sweet. Can't understand how they feel safe following Applewhite. Had I walked into a church and he was speaking I'd run like hell🏃

[@gowdsake7103]

As are most members of a church

[@Michael_Arguello]

I would say the opposite. Not only that, but if you actually listen to what they say…they say the exact opposite of what you feel was “obvious” to you. Who’s brainwashed, the one who speaks their truth, or the ones who deny those individuals their truth?

[@dirkplankchest1796]

That chick at 26:00 even refers to being outside the cult as the real world, she knew she was living in a delusion, that the cult wasn't real. It's sad how much some people want to be a part of something.

[@lovetodocoolstuff9309]

When I listen to a only heard her say “the world” I don’t think she used the phrase “real world”

[@ProudKansan08]

I feel nothing but pure, unadulterated sympathy for all these people. May they rest in peace, and truly hope they found what they were looking for and that life on the other side is more peaceful and happy than life on earth had been to them. This truly depressed me because I felt so sorry for these people. I have never seen the faces for the cult members, so this is the first time I've seen them. Don't know if this is all of them, but, man, do I feel sorry for these people and I'm sure if I knew any of them, at work or church or whatever, I would certainly try to be nice to them, because that's the way I was brought up, to be nice to people. The Golden Rule. Anyway, these people are breaking my heart. I also didn't realize there were women in the group, in fact, more women than men. I always thought it was a cult of nothing but men.

[@mmmcoffeetogo]

If you have HBO Max, they just came out with a documentary about the cult. Heaven's Gate: The Cult of Cults. Very good, give it a watch.

[@mrnohax5436]

@@mmmcoffeetogo are there any scenes of it on KZbin?

[@blu3_enjoy]

i feel sorry for you

[@rogerbelger2014]

@@blu3_enjoy ?

[@AllSven]

Nice virtue signaling…love it. How many starving and sick people did you feed or care for today again? Hypocrite.

[@gardenplots283]

Star Trek actress Nichelle Nichols' brother was one of the members who died. His name was Thomas Nichols. I believe he was the guy in the video called Dstody.

[@BLOXKAFELLARECORDS]

Yes

[@CraigTodd-x9d]

Idk who that is....I know Jodum Fatscrotum.

[@DigUpHerBones85]

Correct

[@Nebula_Ultra]

Aka the black guy

[@jordanlever7857]

This is heartbreaking 💔 This is a prime example of the dangers of groupthink.

[@stevesharpe3370]

What do you mean they escaped their human shell and their souls made it to the spaceship through hale-bopp comet

[@mossbresnahan3072]

Read, "Overcoming the Archon through Alchemy" discusses the quantum science of groupthink and how big governments use it even to this day.

[@ryancraig9352]

"Groupthink" is what forced them to look for a cult in the first place. These people felt like outcasts and odd and out of place because their society made them feel that way. It was our weird obsession with "normal" and "right" that forced them into the arms of a sociopath. Their cult wasn't the death nail. We were. We cringe at the unusual and different.

[@mossbresnahan3072]

Exactly@@ryancraig9352

[@Stand_By_For_Mind_Control]

@@ryancraig9352 "It was our weird obsession with "normal" and "right" that forced them into the arms of a sociopath. Their cult wasn't the death nail. We were. We cringe at the unusual and different." I'm cringing so hard at your comment, that's for sure. This was manipulative people taking advantage of mentally unsound people, clearly culling from people with severe but nonviolent antisocial disorders. 'We' are not the villains here, guy. The group thought 'don't join crazy cults and commit suicide' and they didn't listen to that sound advice. Because either they didn't have a support network of family and friends to prevent them from making a bad decision or they were alienated against those people. BY people who use the exact language you're using. By saying that it's 'society that's rejecting you because it's so cruel'. Seriously re-fucking think what you wrote there.

[@lukes.3957]

Listening to these people, they never actually say anything substative. What did they actually believe? They don't ever actually say much about it or explain their theology in a systematic way. I've listened to alot of this and still have no idea what they believed.

[@pcdailybuzz]

Luke S. Seems to focus more on the idea that they weren't forced to off themselves

[@jameskennedy721]

Your only chance is to leave with them .

[@ratx1729]

It's not about them it's about the man that they believe in. This is dangerous and happening right now on KZbin!

[@heatherhatton8881]

Exactly! The first man literally read a script!

[@gowdsake7103]

Try getting ANY theist to do that

[@jonmeans2637]

Theres A podcast called Heavens Gate, hosted by Glynn Washington, it's 10 episodes, he does an excellent job discussing the entire madness that is Heavens Gate.

[@spszk3148]

Thanks for the recommendation! I'll surely check it out

[@danilejai7801]

Definitely going to check it out

[@ProudKansan08]

Thanks for the info about the podcast. Might look it up.

[@Shilgne1]

I'm not going to look it up.

[@Sarah-qx4vz]

Yeah, it was a great series. Catchy intro music too lol I did love hearing about their daily tasks and schedules

[@documax123]

The woman that starts at 1:03:49 has adopted gestures, characteristics of several others in the group, the followers. It's noticeable after you watch this video a few times. Cadence, mannerisms, and content of what she says. She's impressionable.

[@acorinne787]

The youngest member listed that passed was 26 and I’m betting that’s her. Sad, I wouldn’t have felt nearly as bad if they were all 40+ but she’s my age now (I was born the year this happened) and I’m just starting to become a real person with my own thoughts. So sad.

[@documax123]

e.g., her points and the lilt or tones of them are exactly like Gail's.

[@jaidenlroman9909]

Why does she have like panda 🐼 eyes 👀 looking like some signs of abuse

[@DanSolow]

​@@jaidenlroman9909Metal issues for sure.

[@YellowBriefs]

​@@acorinne787Nope, she was 40 years old. Youngest member was VRNODY 01:47:24

[@rossrobbins7707]

For the most part they seem so totally relaxed, at peace, and so utterly certain. This kind of faith is jarring, especially in light of what happened next. I hope they're out there, zipping through the cosmos!

[@Michael_Arguello]

I think they went to the end of time. We will see them on Judgement Day with the rest of humanity. According to the Bible, their inheritance would be enormous.

[@Kevin-w6u5f]

​@@Michael_Arguello Another cult!!

[@Michael_Arguello]

@@Kevin-w6u5f see you soon. ;)

[@Latina25]

Tragic just shows you how powerful your mind is to believe anything in this world .

[@sickcrimeinc]

🎯🎯🎯

[@Michael_Arguello]

@@Latina25 Tragic how? They achieved what they believed in. You got men believing they are women and vice versa. That to me is tragic to deny your biological reality. But yeah, let’s comment one what strangers did that we don’t care to fully understand and call it whatever it would be in our subjective reality. That makes more sense. ;)

[@adamfowler350]

The group castration move actually shocked me worse than the suicides.

[@Vulhala]

Let's be real, it's not like they were ever going to use them. Look at them.

[@fraxizztv6433]

Not after being made to appear more androgenic, no​@@Vulhala

[@jazzabighits4473]

@@Vulhala Idk, Dana Carvey at the start could pull

[@Michael_Arguello]

@@Vulhala your remarks on their ability to appear attractive to you is a byproduct of being of this world. Also it was a subjective and devalueing statement. I guess you are entitled to make jokes at the expense of others. That shows your poor character. Did making that comment boost your false image of yourself?

[@puppetmaster3911]

Wow that guy near the end looked only 19 or so. So sad...

[@hugobarriosdonis]

That's true, too young and so sad...

[@mike04574]

he was 26. Michael barr sandoe

[@Michael_Arguello]

@@puppetmaster3911 why is it sad? We give people the right to damage their bodies with nicotine at age 18. And we let 12 year olds change their gender and mutilate themselves in pursuit of validation. But yeah, someone who devotes their life to their creator is soooo sad to some.

[@savagesooner4891]

The saddest part of all this is the fulfillment of the holy scriptures. (Jonestown, Heavens Gate, etc) “Many will come in my name, calling themselves Christ, and will deceive many” Matthew 24:5

[@c.t8958]

The "next level" is going from existence to non existence!! Very sad!!

[@Kova-ow2en]

Honestly it wouldn’t be sad since you wouldn’t even consciously know. You would go back to a state of existence before you were born. It’s the ultimate form of bliss

[@Michael_Arguello]

@@c.t8958 if that’s what you believe, you won’t be disappointed. Have fun fearing death every day of your life.

[@VaIhalIa]

As a lifelong atheist, the power cults and religion hold over peoples minds scares the shit out of me. To just throw your life away for one crazy man is insane. This video is fascinating yet scary, thanks for uploading it.

[@richardstebbins4013]

Man, some horrifically insensitive comments. These people were taken advantage of after being persecuted by people like you their whole lives. I feel so much sympathy for these people.

[@bendikklungsyr2393]

Agreed

[@bendikklungsyr2393]

@Josh Traffanstedt Yup, and they seem to narrow-minded to try to understand anyone at a deeper level before judging and dismissing them..

[@gowdsake7103]

Its what religion does to millions every single day

[@rolyatnad]

way to pin it on everyone else. "people like you" ?? people like us.

[@peniscaughtinzipper]

Does you feeling sympathy make these retards any less dead?

[@glenncuthbertson964]

These people were dead long before making these “Exit Videos”

[@Michael_Arguello]

Dead to the world. That’s biblical. According to the Bible, these folks do inherit all that they were promised. But I guess you know more than they do, huh? Do you know what projection means? It’s a psychological term.

[@michigan53105]

45:14 “The idea you can become something in this world and make a difference is an illusion.” An attempt at an intelligent explanation for this, but really a signal of despair and hopelessness.

[@Michael_Arguello]

@@michigan53105 According to the Bible, what they said is accurate. The difference is made by you walking in your faith. Becoming something leans into the false self ideology. I guess my attempt at an intelligent interpretation of this is really a signal of my despair and loneliness, in your eyes of course.

[@prof2yousmithe444]

My word, my heart breaks for them.

[@ProudKansan08]

I know!!!! My heart breaks for them, too.

[@spiritualityanimals3760]

No it does not

[@prof2yousmithe444]

@@spiritualityanimals3760 what do you mean my friend?

[@spiritualityanimals3760]

@@prof2yousmithe444 : There is no love in this world. People only love another if they are their immediate family. There are no friends just lies and pretense.

[@lastthingsministry]

​​​@@spiritualityanimals3760 false. This world was created by God and God is love. If you don't experience love on a day to day basis then that is because you don't have God. It has to begin with us, we show God's love through us to others. Even a child knows it is all about love, it is the reason we are here because God loved us first and gave us life. If your friends don't show you love then you need to move on! There are plenty more fish in the sea. Spiritual growth is when you can love others unconditionally with no hope of return, you can do this through God (Jesus Christ) as His love is overflowing. When we look to Him and His love for us (which never fails) then we can constantly be loving and show love to others. Amen!

[@hnz1688]

The one and only one positive thing you can say about this unsettling cult is that, unlike in a jonestown for example nobody kept you there by force. If you wanted it out you could've quit at any moment. These people really chose their fate and if they went out happy with it, then good for them.

[@Michael_Arguello]

@@hnz1688 yeah, you know, now that you mention it, all other groups we refer to as cults seems to not want people to leave and punish them for doing so. Huh! Makes you wonder… Oh well, guess we can keep calling Heaven’s Gate a cult. That’s easy to do. Yeah, so let’s keep doing that. Who care if they were the only one in history to not operate as one.

[@edwardbliss8931]

If Roy Scheider was part of the group, his name would be Chief Br-ody.

[@veljkoterzic3513]

Haha... Good stuff, mate 😁

[@roseannepietrunti6921]

😂😂😂😂

[@spacetoilet]

You’re gonna need a bigger boatody.

[@Michael_Arguello]

@@edwardbliss8931 They would’ve laughed at that.

[@ibbest123]

we should teach children critical thinking in their schools,very important skill for life, so even if their upbringing is wrong,they have a chance to resist these kinds of manipulation. i have never seen so much nervous crying in adults,as with these people,or as many "catch phrases "used in their brainwashing(,repeating the same words and phrases)

[@codingvio7383]

Probably have a common sense lesson in school in combination with critical thinking. Because with common sense, you can figure out how bizarre the claims of DO are. Just looking at the names of the people, it is just bizarre how something like this can start in the first place.

[@puercoespineta]

@@codingvio7383 Common sense is seldom common, so critical thinking is way more important.

[@TheCarin12]

I don't think religious organisations would appreciate that kind of education

[@pribilovian4709]

Well now they're teaching kids in school that you can be a man, woman, they, it, why, how, thing, them, donkey, mouse, unicorn, alien, whatever you can think of...as long as you "identify" as so, its ok... Sooooo...yeahhhhh...we're screwed🤦‍♂️

[@williamraleigh7546]

​@@pribilovian4709Actually, gender identity isn't taught in school, but it should. Gender is created by society, so there should be no specific parameters. If someone feels comfortable being referred to with they/them pronouns, you should keep referring to them as they/them. If someone has a different preferred name from the one they were given at birth, you should refer to them as that. It's just common human decency.

[@christophersteward5720]

If my vehicle is breaking down I go to a mechanic.

[@Michael_Arguello]

And you trust them blindly. All mechanics are worthy of that level of trust, right? Oh, and they charge for their services…and I’m sure the price is fair. ;)

[@justmadeit2]

Have you noticed that people in cults always say it is of their own free choosing, which seems legit on paper, but really it isnt. The cult can be small like this one or it could have tens of millions of members.

[@TheCarin12]

Some cults have hundreds of millions

[@Michael_Arguello]

@@justmadeit2 or even the entire world, right? Imagine if we were all in a cult and didn’t even realize it. ;)

[@brianarbenz1329]

4:38 "Somebody on the other side of this camera watching this tape would probably say, _What's going on? You all must not have a life. Or, you're deluded, or you're brainwashed."_ Yeah, well.

[@breeie9900]

That’s exactly what I’m thinking

[@Michael_Arguello]

The person on the other side of that camera was one of them. You’d know that if you paid attention instead of looking to criticize based on your own subjective reality. What you did was project yourself onto the camera operator. It’s an ego thing that egocentric people do. Those are the people of this world that this group left behind. It’s possible you could be experiencing envy of their closeness with God. That’s also egocentric. That’s all for your lesson.

[@brianarbenz1329]

@@Michael_Arguello That's either great satire, or your persona is a bot trying to agitate to generate ad revenue (that actually is a recent thing on social media threads).

[@Michael_Arguello]

@@brianarbenz1329 Yeah. I’m the robot. 🤖 Programmed to be a mirror.

[@brianarbenz1329]

@@Michael_Arguello Well, if you tell me, 'Danger, Will Robinson,' I will ignore you.

[@jordanc1803]

Trsody seems so sweet and innocent. I feel something for all of them, but him especially.

[@danielortiz4077]

🥺

[@Tommytucamoto]

They all look hypnotised, R.I.P, Can't think of what they families went through

[@Michael_Arguello]

@@Tommytucamoto ooooh, so THATS what hypocrisy looks like. I mean hypnotized. Dang spell check.

[@Zeromusicvideos]

My heart breaks for these people. I hope they rest in peace. I feel like at the end of the day they all needed psychiatric help but were headed in the worst direction.

[@gowdsake7103]

YOU may be thats your problem

[@Zeromusicvideos]

@@gowdsake7103 English please?

[@gowdsake7103]

@@Zeromusicvideos They were religiously indoctrinated. By saying your heart breaks I suspect you are too

[@Zeromusicvideos]

@@gowdsake7103 I still don’t know what you’re talking about….

[@gowdsake7103]

@@Zeromusicvideos I know but thats your problem not mine.

[@steverino3447]

1:55:06 - "the proof is in the pudding." THAT was funny.

[@ericdestler7723]

Dropping hints

[@yinko1024]

Yes. I couldn't believe that.

[@microlithic8354]

I need people who are this enthusiastic and dedicated on my sales team

[@matthewcasagrande231]

Omg…I’m a salesman. I was a rockstar because everyone else was not nearly as like able and outgoing. I killed it while every other salesman was doing seminars and crap like that because they couldn’t hit their quota. Now I’m trying to start my own company and am very sad because I can’t find people like me. Not even close and I have to find them for this to work. If you are in sales you will know that this is just the way it is and it is not conceited or smug to state these facts

[@MrSparkle44]

Haha

[@Sarah-qx4vz]

@@matthewcasagrande231 nobody cares.

[@rogerbelger2014]

lol

[@cosmopolitanbloodloss3148]

Hope you found some decent people to join your capitalist death-cult

[@ColdheartCuzo]

It is almost convincing hearing the people, but when Applebottom starts speaking I get creeper out. He is the embodiment of Lucifer. I also heard he was a great musician a decorated one at that.

[@ricthefish]

you can tell they're brain washed because of how hard they're trying to convince themselves this is the right thing to do. look how hard they're trying to make sense of it.

[@bendikklungsyr2393]

No

[@Sarah-qx4vz]

I think they’re just really trying to make sure people don’t think they’re crazy and that everyone understands that they are content and chose this path

[@bendikklungsyr2393]

@@Sarah-qx4vz exactly

[@bendikklungsyr2393]

To dismiss is as something else is were the real ignorance and danger lies

[@p4ry4h]

Idk I wouldn’t consider that brainwashing. Yeah like Emma said, they were just trying to be concise and held conviction and passion

[@himoverthere6716]

That was a fresh jacket the first dude was wearing.

[@darkjak224]

Not as fresh as his Nikes

[@nightsheran]

that 80s swag

[@himoverthere6716]

@@darkjak224 Yeah the resell prices on those are crazy

[@himoverthere6716]

@@nightsheran Facts.

[@traceyhateley3925]

which one ?. the 1 who talks first was the one who had to DIY ( with the help of the nurse in the group ) LLVODY. Genital removal! .

[@ariesleorising9421]

These poor souls

[@gowdsake7103]

Sighs SOULS really ? You and your myths is what did this to them

[@Michael_Arguello]

They are the richest among us. Those with eyes to see and ears to hear know. Your pity exposes your level of understanding.

[@abyz1467]

2nd to last guy was condescending as hell lol, but I still feel bad for him just as much as the other 37 victims.

[@carolynlyfordsullivan1377]

This is sad . The key to life is living.

[@karlmacdonald3267]

I loved what you wrote, Big Up Life!

[@Iiswellmashed]

tell that to all them yogis and meditators who sit in the same spot for hours upon hours per day doing nothing

[@rogerbelger2014]

"Older member" "vehicle" "Next level" im sick these words...

[@Michael_Arguello]

@@rogerbelger2014 ok. Well the Bible uses other words. Angels, Heaven, the temple of God (your very body). Guess those didn’t work for you either. Which words would you prefer that they used? What would suit you best?

[@RhJones]

People are blaming Applewhite but when you look into it, the castration was a group idea, he gave them time to back out and people did leave before the suicides. He had expressed doubts in his beliefs previously that the group helped him overcome. I find it more disturbing that it wasn’t a Manson type with one evil guy influencing the rest. The two started it but the members kept it going and fed back into each other, they weren’t forced by anything, they all convinced each other.

[@aarongrefer6239]

One can talk themselves in and out of almost anything if you WANT. IT's why scripture says the heart is deceptive and to trust in His Word, not your own understanding.

[@mlkh8073]

Exactly! I don't know why people tend to make applewhite the evil guy in this story. I think there was only one bad person and that was Ti. She was the one suggested these ideas to Do and she was the one who made member left their families while she was still talking with her daughter behind their back. After her death members went home but they chose to comeback together and continue their cult. At one point Do, applewhite, says he doesn't know how to continue their mission but the members pursue him to do that. They all pushed each other to this and they chose this themselves. I only have sympathy for families.

[@Michael_Arguello]

@@RhJones would I do that? No. I appreciate the model of vehicle I was given. That said, the Bible says that if your eye causes you to sin, it is better to pluck it out and enter the Kingdom of Heaven without the eye. They must’ve struggled with lust (totally understandable), and so they decided to do what they felt needed to be done. These days people cut it off because they think they are a woman and we don’t dare call them mentally sick (even if that’s what we believe about them). But to cut it off to lessen desires of the flesh…that’s their choice.

[@mariec3527]

How you would let a man who was once in a Mental Hospital and married the nurse that was assigned to him would seem like a big red flag as to not follow or believe what he's telling you because obviously he's insane and these poor people were and seemed very gullible and depressed and seem to have a sense of purpose being in this group

[@abc-oq7dt]

Brooke Cantu You're absolutely spot on mate. But I think they all seem a bit like outcasts and this cult probably gave them a sense of purpose. Its a shame

[@joshuatraffanstedt2695]

Brooke Cantu you're beautiful. I know this probably ain't the best place to say so lol, but facts are facts.

[@LynnSJB]

It really makes you wonder about the nurse. Wtf??

[@tertommy]

Highly intelligent people are easily duped. A good carnival barker can manipulate high IQ people using a kind of mental judo; they're so smart they're stupid.

[@ProudKansan08]

Well, the way I look at it, any religious group (and the types of groups this cult belongs to), IS A RED FLAG in itself!! I don't trust any of them. I'm just glad, with all my faults, that I never fell for some cult. But, on the other hand, in some way, I can see how other people do.

[@AaronAtkinsHonorableChairman]

at least they found what so much of us die without… peace, happiness, and belonging (unfortunate where they found it)

[@kingdomlevelabovehuman8290]

Well said.

[@AaronAtkinsHonorableChairman]

@@kingdomlevelabovehuman8290 it's all an illusion anyway. i wonder if crazy homeless people are happy in whatever world they're living in... probably better than the real one anyway.

[@michaellockett4044]

They died as lost as they had ever been. If not, more. And on top of that, that traded their lives to hurl themselves into the abyss denying the God they claimed to serve. This cult blasphemed the holy name of the Lord. Furthermore, they laid down their life for an idol. This is the clearest definition of dying in your sin. Being happy about your death is not a win if what find on the other side is an eternity on Hell!

[@kingdomlevelabovehuman8290]

@@michaellockett4044 prove it.

[@gowdsake7103]

@@michaellockett4044 Ohh get you ! your delusion is superior to theirs and yet you will NEVER justify yours will you ?

[@Bela66699]

They think ti and do are from the next level😥

[@kimzimim791]

It's really strange to read these comments. People calling them selfish for feeling alone, people condemning them to hell, people calling them stupid, devoid of sympathy or understanding. All the same kinds of remarks and attitudes that likely influenced these people to seek refuge away from society and end up falling for a mad man's promises. How sad.

[@puercoespineta]

If only they noticed how nature was trying to warn them of the danger ahead of them

[@Michiganders]

The crows. Unsettling.

[@TheCarin12]

Qstody, the first one noticed. @1:30

[@bryanburnap4537]

Crazy !!

[@nr1785]

I noticed that too. The birds were singing so hard, it’s like they were trying to remind them of how beautiful life is and to not throw it away.

[@Michael_Arguello]

@@puercoespineta that’s presumptuous and subjective, don’t you think?

[@Joeyyyyyyyyy1987]

Put this on for the family at Christmas time

[@sjt4689]

The motivation & intent of these people was / is as pure as I have ever seen. They are as emotional as they are for a good reason - they truly believed in what they had chosen for themselves, and they were mere days from saying goodbye to the corrupt politics, religions, business & banking systems of this global society. I absolutely understand why they are as emotional as they are in this video. This is not a Jim Jones scenario. Far from it. It takes a great deal of courage to make a decision like this. More courage than most people anywhere have. While I don't agree with everything they voiced, which doesn't really matter whatsoever because this was not my decision, I absolutely appreciate how strongly they stood with their personal convictions, principals & ethics, without feeling they had to excuse or justify their personal decision to anyone. They don't owe anyone an explanation regarding their choice to end their physical lives. Their bodies, their souls, their lives. What really boggles my mind is that so many people will excuse, justify & even laud wars, executing human beings under 'the law' (no matter what the reason), imprisoning people for life because we don't agree with what they have done, torturing others under the guise of 'national security', mass government surveillance around the globe, the abuse of their neighbours' freedoms due to their skin color / religion / social status, citizens in their own countries remaining homeless / hungry / desperate for the simplest of rights everyone is entitled to (shelter, food & being treated humanely, with love & compassion), corrupt politicians continuing to rule, churches abusing their 'non-profit' status for their own monetary gain, Religious leaders abusing children, banks stealing people's homes from their friends & families, and the list goes on....all these things seem to be excusable in today's society, around the world.....but someone making the decision to end their own life because of their personal convictions, simply because you don't agree with the person's convictions? Take a look at yourselves, pitying these people who took hold of their personal power. You all should in reality be pitying yourselves. We are surrounded by cults of all types, and you all participate in them daily, but people are far too indoctrinated to even fathom that they contribute to & perpetuate cults of all types in their everyday lives. Political cults of every flavour which people 'vote' for, social media cults which people are addicted to, military cults which slaughter others around the world in the name of 'democracy' (yet another cult), 'educational' cults which you allow to indoctrinate your children, religious cults we are surrounded with namely Catholicism, Christianity, etc etc which you allow to further indoctrinate & abuse your children - 'acceptable' only because the majority agree with them?? How does this make them any less cults? Your religious leaders control your lives for god's sake. Your politicians, governments, police, 'legal' systems control your lives. Your monetary system controls your lives. Your 'justice' system which is anything but 'just' controls your lives. Even your credit card issuers control your lives! Yet you believe you're making your own decisions, that you're 'free', that you all are NOT cult members??? Who are the real cult members? The minority who dare to step outside of a sick global society & explore their lives freely? And end their lives as they see fit? Or those who are firmly entrenched in this sick global society, killing themselves working for car payments, 'taxes', mortgages, religious leaders, credit card debt, parking tickets, 'student loans'.... Who are the real cult victims? Take a good look at yourselves & your lives.

[@lorimac0260]

It rarely takes courage to suicide. It takes courage not to.

[@freeman4real]

Courageous I think NOT these people were followers thru & thru. You could even see them taking cues from the people behind the camera. I AGREE with you about society, government & things of that nature but to think these people were courageous when you learn the rules they had to follow while in Heavens Gate. These people were just searching for connections, info, somebody to take them in and tell them what to do and that everything is gonna be alright is more of what I got. I dont think anybody should idolize these people or put their actions on a pedestal in any way. What I find courageous is a person who is smart enough to understand what is truly going on and deciding they are not gonna participate and FOLLOW but do then their own thing .

[@jessebarnes1963]

Well thanks for this piece of faux profundity. Why don’t you take a look at YOURSELF and YOUR life? If you really think that participating in society, the type of society (I assume that you, like these people, are living in and referring to the US or another open, democratic society), it’s worth mentioning, that has made people freer and pulled more people out of poverty than any other system in human history, necessarily involves a surrender of one’s mental faculties and integrity greater than that which these pitiful people engaged in, then you are intellectually lazy and not very bright. That is ridiculous. Yes, plenty of aspects of modern life and society do encourage participating individuals to decline to think critically and to immerse themselves in addictive, numbing, and brainwashing activities. But to make that observation in a condemnatory way while giving credit to these lost people for some intellectual and ethical strength and fortitude, as if they freed themselves, when what they did was follow some basic whack job into the abyss, is simply ridiculous. I’ll choose to dismiss this as an attempt to be edgy, because I don’t think that you’ve really thought this through.

[@jessebarnes1963]

And half of the things that you named as things that people mindlessly participate in in their lives in society are not necessarily things that result from the corrupt wielding power over blind masses. For instance, executing people under the law, “no matter the reason,” or imprisoning some people for life is not self-evidently wicked, and some wars are justified. And not all of the problems that you listed are entirely or even primarily the result of corruption. Many of these things are problems that human beings haven’t figured out adequate solutions for. The world is extremely complicated, and the problems that you seem to think must have simple solutions that would be easy to implement if only corrupt leaders would get out of the way and dulled masses would just wake up are actually not so simple. Yes, corruption is a serious problem that prevents us from creating a better world. Corruption is a universal tendency that exists in every human system. It’s also not the sole explanation for every aspect of every unsolved problem that humans face. You oversimplify.

[@rogerbelger2014]

S JT you dont even give us your real name, i cant take you serious, you're telling me to "take a look at myself"?

[@Tina06019]

2:31 Kenneth Copeland is being called out for telling people to tithe more - prosperity gospel.

[@littlekingtrashmouth9219]

Pot and the kettle

[@Michael_Arguello]

@@Tina06019 love how you got that golden nugget out of the entire video. You probably stopped watching right after making that comment a couple minutes in.

[@jeffreystiles1102]

“When they took them up into the spaceship, the aliens abused them…SEXUALLY.”

[@terrortorycadaver5366]

🤭

[@matiasnigrum1348]

@@terrortorycadaver5366🤔

[@Harold.Richard]

Independence Day lmfao

[@UrbanAlchemystic]

Saw what you did there

[@morgan1894]

Such beautiful people. Sad they’re all gone and didn’t find something worth living for here on earth.

[@Michael_Arguello]

@@morgan1894 yeah, something worth living for outside the self is so…earthly.

[@puppetmaster3911]

Joseph Smith not John Smith, not that I care about Mormon doctrine. But his name was Joseph.

[@yaktaur]

I don't think he's gonna read this correction

[@nagantm441]

You know he's been dead since 1997 right?

[@CynicallyDepressedx]

@@nagantm441 I was like "he's been dead since the 1800s ohhhhh..."

[@tommytonguyen4227]

F. cking sick! I am watching suicidal notes?

[@raimonwintzer]

You are mistaken, this is an episode of Spongebob

[@ronaldreaganrimjobs9327]

This is a casting couch

[@alexshapiro9841]

Imagine if he was really an alien, and he did transfer them to his ship, but instead of being this peaceful god-alien he pretended to be, he turned out to be an inter-galactic slaver? Imagine the look on their faces if they were really transferred to his ship to realize they've been duped!

[@Michael_Arguello]

@@alexshapiro9841 imaginations are funny.

[@miker.9138]

Was bad eyesight a prerequisite for joining this group?

[@robboyden2673]

LMFAOOOOOOOO

[@Michiganders]

Presbyopia, poor dentition, androgyny, loneliness, and passive aggression were all prerequisites. Most members simply couldn’t accept sexual orientation being a spectrum of hetero/bi/homosexual urges and fantasies. Driven to madness by their perceived amoral desires.

[@robboyden2673]

All cult members had 20/20 vision. The eyeglasses and Nike sneakers were just part of their costume.😂😂😂😂😂

[@podcastfan2544]

😂😂😂

[@Michael_Arguello]

@@miker.9138 was bad foresight a prerequisite for joining yours?

[@Mauro-ot2ux]

This is worse than staring at the results of a fatal car crash as you drive by.

[@Michael_Arguello]

@@Mauro-ot2ux really? I guess a peaceful death by choice is more disturbing than a fatal car crash with disfigured bloody bodies with looks of fear and horror on their faces. I mean, I wouldn’t believe that, but I guess that’s what makes you and I different people. Authenticity is so cool, don’t you think?

[@xyork]

None of them could answer the question "How did you come to the conclusion that your beliefs are TRUE?"

[@billy6044]

No religion can answer that question.

[@crow8283]

They had beautiful souls and highly intelegant !! Sad they believed so much in this man .. listening yo each of them i personally like them all except the evil man himself .. r. I. P

[@rogerburch69]

Intelligent

[@Michael_Arguello]

They believed in God and saw Do as an objective guide. But I guess you can say whatever you want you want based on your own beliefs without considering what they felt.

[@crow8283]

@Michael_Arguello firstly they believed in the level above this level and they believed TI and do are messengers from another galaxy or if you wish an alternative time line or parallel universe and that halbob was the ship . God was not part of this ! Who knows maybe they where right and they have eccended to that higher level . I personally found them to be more spiritual than religious

[@Michael_Arguello]

@@crow8283 I agree with you. They definitely seemed more spiritual than religious. Leaving earthly desires behind. No love for this materialistic world, etc.

[@crow8283]

@@Michael_Arguello 💯👍

[@malk9421]

Ahh, the old 'Next Level' trick...

[@austinhawryliw8583]

😂lmfao

[@ronaldreaganrimjobs9327]

They pull the quarter out of the ear too

[@erikarocksthenation1]

Studying psychology and the body language of many of these people seem very unsure, so they are laughing or crying in fear of ending their lives but afraid if they speak up what will happen and what will their peers think. The joyful ness is very unreal as if of course they were trained to feel joyful about this at all times. Many of them may have suffered from sexual identities or severe depression so they depended on this cult to make them feel normal. You can tell many of them can tell this isn’t the most sensible thing to do but they’ve come this far and feel pressured to follow thru with it. It still doesn’t make since to me how people got so vulnerable towards a psyche patient from a mental hospital who also had a insane nurse who created this whole theories and ideology of an out worldly beings and never questioned the leaders past which is why they act the way that they do. Also how did some of these member have a procedure done to be catastrated without any form of funding for doctor’s to go thru with it.

[@bryanburnap4537]

For real !! And wow those birds were going crazy

[@erikarocksthenation1]

@@bryanburnap4537 birds?

[@heathernikki5734]

@@erikarocksthenation1the birds chirping endlessly in the background , it’s almost like they were warning them.

[@heathernikki5734]

Also I completely agree

[@3spmSwy]

If anyone has questions, I am still around to help with them. My name is Sawyer and you may have seen me in many documentaries. There is no new group, no new leaders, no cult, no suicides but lots to learn about them.

[@thoughtsonthingsandstuff974]

Hi Sawyer, I would very much like to chat if you have availability. There is an assessment of "cultiness" at isitculty.com which serves as a good format to assess the degree of autonomy or control that exists in a group - would you be willing to give insight in a discussion around that format?

[@devilslittlesister69420]

Dstody is actually Nichelle Nichols brother if y’all didn’t know that

[@13donstalos]

I feel terrible for anyone who fed into this. Their mind must have been an unbearably puerile and desperate place to live.

[@lorimac0260]

51:50 is creepy as hell.

[@josephpickard3108]

It's like a holiday camp for k.d. lang fans

[@tenacious645]

These peoples departure is less sad after watching this.

[@revolutioningmarijuana1684]

Just understood, that's the problem back then as it is today no compasion, I pray for an other shooting , but shit I don't have to, cause people like you already make that happen ! 💣🔫🗡🇺🇸🔥🇺🇸

[@themartyr2649]

lots of sensitive people here

[@mattheww797]

It's sad because they made it to the next level and left us behind. I am afraid for humanity now. But I believe they are trying to still help us from the next level above human

[@ProudKansan08]

That is NOT a nice thing to say. Kharma has a way of catching up with people who say and do insensitive things. I know you are entitled to your own opinion, but, you're just being rudely obnoxious.

[@ronaldreaganrimjobs9327]

​@@mattheww797 😆

[@sarahmeakin1391]

This is the most heartbreaking yet fascinating immortalised forever piece of insight into a truly brainwashed mind... All of these people were intelligent articulate and had so much to offer. Seemingly different from other cults most of them were completely at peace with what was about to happen. I do see the humanity in some though and the fear and that should have told them that something was wrong very wrong... May they have found their peace and I wish their families left behind have peace too I believe wholey it is them that suffered most. 😢

[@ircjesselee]

I'll never understand how people can be convinced that our consciousness magically transfers upon death.

[@Zamboro]

Mortal Anxiety is a hell of a drug

[@Kova-ow2en]

@@Zamboro honestly I never saw the point of it. Maybe it’s because im still in my early 20s, but who cares what happens after death? 99% likely it’s just a black void of unconsciousness. Like going back to a state before you were born. You would cease to exist. It would be like you never even existed and you wouldn’t even know it since your consciousness would no longer be there

[@jesselopes5196]

Listen to the guy at 1:30:52, then learn a little about Donald Hoffman's philosophy, and you will understand - it's wrong, but you can understand

[@TheCarin12]

It's the basis of all religion

[@throwaway999able]

@@jesselopes5196 interesting that Hoffman coopts the man's language "VR headset" "holodeck". it's like DHoffs talking points are not nearly original and his storming of the popular consciousness debate is inflated by people who don't really understand what they're hearing (as is seen in the video above)

[@lorimac0260]

Why can none of these people express the beliefs of their cult? Or what they learned in their class? Think about it!

[@andrealevin8979]

I have this actual VHS tape I bought it from the guy who missed the “exit” when he was speaking in San Francisco.

[@davidswing3385]

Really?

[@andrealevin8979]

@@davidswing3385 yes! He was a bit unhinged if I remember. Pretty torn up about missing the comet.

[@ryansmurda1552]

The dude talking about being neutered was f**cking crazy! These poor souls! Really sad!

[@joedangelo9944]

Free haircuts and death...free haircuts and death....who’s next?????

[@mrs.bendover8613]

😆😆😆😆

[@Michael_Arguello]

@@joedangelo9944 The dead shall bury the dead. Some day that will make sense to you.

[@ColdheartCuzo]

AnOdy JimOdy KenOdy BobbyOdy 😆 man that shlt wild I would of been kicked out the group just from laughing at that shlt alone 😆

[@roseannepietrunti6921]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@John2271]

Sell crazy someplace else, we're all stocked up here.

[@pommiebears]

Motley it’s as good as it’s gonna get! 👍🏻 Lol!

[@burningxdimx]

Imagine dying of natural causes, murder, or suicide on the same day this happened and you're all cramped on the same spaceship.

[@Str8JamNoJelly]

Did they take narcotics daily or was it just the barbiturates in the end? These people all seem deeply drugged, hypnotized and sincerely programmed. It's very sad to think about the many families that had to see their loved ones turn out like this. Applewhite was w weird dude. I remember being a very young teenager when all of this was going on in real time, and when he would come on television I would get a scared feeling like I was home alone as a child. He was truly frightening to me....

[@TheCarin12]

They were drug free.

[@Str8JamNoJelly]

@@TheCarin12 well-possibly when they were brainwashed they were drug free but doubtful. They “boarded the spaceship” with barbiturates, alcohol and cyanide so we can’t say they were drug free in the end … can we??

[@nr1785]

@@TheCarin12or were they? It’s maybe possible that they were drugged against their knowledge?

[@TheCarin12]

@@nr1785 There is no proof of that. Pure theory and speculation.

[@billyje4726]

Crazy how brainwashed they all are. At least they died happy it seems. 🙏 Wish we could all take care more of each other, so people feel like they belong.

[@jimibarker4873]

I'll wonder what they're doing now oooooo aahhhhhh summer nights

[@YHShinVH]

Don't worry, guys. They're in the next level riding Halley's Comet

[@Michael_Arguello]

I believe you meant Hale-Bopp. There’s a difference.

[@CygnusBard]

Watching this should be a cautionary tale. Each and every one of my fellow spiritualists, cast a wary eye on any serpent wrapped in the skin of the mortal coil. Demons travel in human flesh on Earth. If money be involved, distrust the discourse in all things but ESPECIALLY in matters of the spirit, the mind or the soul. For if They need compensation for expanding any of these things they are not to be trusted. Trust first your own mind, your own spirit and your own soul. Those outside of yourself can help to guide you along your path but only you - AND YOU ALONE - can and must walk it! Let he, whomever Wicked - schemes against Us in Our waking dreams, by his own means be Just undone.

[@itsmevvacle6510]

Hey ho my father the Great Spirit told me to drink Fireball

[@meags-b1v]

This womans statements (43:36 - MLLODY) were... incredibly profound. This is the epitome of someone taking the black pill.

[@woolsheepthree]

She had the best name. Melody

[@Michael_Arguello]

Most of what they have to say is profound. All you have to do is listen with an objective ear.