Hebrew Roots Warning: My journey in and out of the Hebrew Roots Movement SD 480p

[@TheBiblicalRoots]

Thank you for sharing your story, Kathrine. I love that you are doing this! It's so important for others to hear your perspective. Blessings, Rob

[@JustOneStitch]

Thank you so much for your words of encouragement. Our family is immensely blessed by the work God is doing through you!

[@JazzyGinger1]

Hi Sis, I too used to be in the Hebrew roots movement a decade ago or so and was in it for three yrs.But I got out of it when Abba showed me Galatians 5:4 that we can fall from grace if we try to be justified by the law. Thank you for the video! Love, Ginger

[@JustOneStitch]

Hi @JazzyGinger1. I'm so thankful that verse reached your heart. I get alot of questions about what I "did with" the Sabbath after I came out of Hebrew Roots. If you are comfortable sharing, how did you come to see the Sabbath after you were resccued out? Sabbath and food were the two that caused me the most confusion the days following coming out of Hebrew Roots. I'm so thankful I had dear friends to be patient with me as I worked those out.

[@JustThinkingAboutIt-i5k]

Torah Observant Christians do not believe in justification by the Law. Sorry, this couldn't be more clear.

[@graftedin3]

(Isa 45:24-25 KJV) 24 Surely, shall one say, in the LORD have I righteousness and strength: even to him shall men come; and all that are incensed against him shall be ashamed. 25 In the LORD shall all the seed of Israel be justified, and shall glory.

[@robertschmidt9296]

The Hebrew roots that I'm familiar with know that we have all broken Yahweh's laws so we can't be justified by keeping the law, we have all failed. Yahushua is the one who justifies. But that doesn't mean that we can ignore His laws.

[@kennyproctor7691]

Without the law there is no faith. You're confused.

[@ElizabethMeeder]

Katherine, thank you so much for sharing your story. It is so encouraging to listen to others share their experience being involved in this idealogy. My husband and I completely left in Fall of 2021 and since God has lead us to a biblically-solid and loving church. After years of confusion, resentment, and fear, our faith has grown like never before. We pray for those who are still involved.

[@JustOneStitch]

Elizabeth, how wonderful! I am thrilled for you and your husband and your new church family. We also found a church that is solid, and full of love and truth. Isn't it wonderful? We pray also, and I am stopping now to pray for your friends that are still involved.

[@maryjodollar8023]

Hi dear, I understand your dilemma about the Hebrew roots movement, I am a follower of Yashua Messiah He is my salvation, but I do have to say that Yah gave His instructions (Torah)to Israel, a nation He chose for they were to share with the other nations around them, us Gentiles, Gods laws and instructions that we are all to live by. People mention the 613 laws, they are not for everyone, if you look into them they are for different job titles, priests, parents, children etc. He gave us His commandments, and we should be obedient to Him including keeping the Sabbath and we also believe in keeping the feast days because we learn from them. The spring Feasts (His first coming-is His Redemption) His dying on the cross for us. Then The Fall Feasts (His second coming-His Restoration) to restore all things. There are many rabbinic things being done that shouldn’t be done, Yah said do not add to or take away from His word. I pray you continue to keep His instructions, the 10 commandment, Loving Yah above all things and loving your neighbor as yourself, the Fall Feasts are about His return and people are not ready nor prepared for His return. As you know there are some tough times coming as Yeshua said and we need Him to help us to endure to the end. We need Torah! We need Truth. Be strong honey, stay in His Truth. The pagan holidays are not truth. Yah bless you in all that you do!

[@robertschmidt9296]

Excellent comment.

[@pede8889]

Amen

[@ScottRachelson777]

I'm very familiar with the Messianic Movement. Lot's of wonderful people. Question: Do you think there is a moral obligation to follow the Law of Moses? If so, do you also believe that there are two different moral requirements for Gentile and Jewish believers? Why? Or, why not? What do you think Paul means when he uses the phrase, "Under the Law" in 1 Cor. 9:21?

[@williamohio70]

I agree. Keep the big 10 and eat clean. Regarding keeping of feasts, that’s impossible with out current calendars, not being in the land, and not having a temple. There’s nothing wrong with trying to remember and keep them, but there’s simply no way of keeping them to biblical standards. We see this in Daniel where he fasted through Passover and unleavened bread.

[@marisaandrick6048]

Thank you for sharing. My husband and I were involved in Hebrew Roots up until 10 years ago. At the time we were shunned by some and attacked with “woe to those who call evil good”. There’s many layers to it but looking back we are glad to be free of it.

[@JustOneStitch]

Hi Marissa. I’m so thankful you are free. The division it can cause is very sad.

[@yqtszhj]

Good video sister. You nailed it. My wife and I attended one of these places for about a year and a half and saw the levels, and inconsistency even among members. I got into a rather heated conversation one Friday night with a guy who was rather rude and jumped on me because he was talking about the requirements to follow the law trying to force it on me and I objected. He got mad and I pressed him on what happens when a follower of Christ doesn’t follow the Mosaic law and he kept trying to get away from answering and changing the topic. I persisted and finally said those who don’t follow the law will be judged. When he said that he knew he was wrong and he walked away. Thank God Paul covers this extensively in his letters to the churches. So glad you got out of that and I pray God’s richest blessings will be on you.

[@digimike8]

Thank you for sharring. I have family stuck here, and this testimony gives me hope. Praise the Lord!

[@JustOneStitch]

Hi Michael. I hope and pray every day for my sisters and brothers still in it. I will pray for your family as well!

[@HAILYAHALMIGHTY777]

I dont abide by the torah to be justified by the legalistic word "law," but rather to respect Fathers statutes. And live with faith.

[@maylensamson5486]

It’s so sad for me to see so many people judging so hard those within the body. My husband and I have made mistakes forsure and have had to Humble ourselves and apologize to family. The father pushed on me to learn the fruit of the spirit in 2021. And it was such a blessing. Because as we in our faith have grown deeper in our walk by doing feast and sabbath. It’s also helped me to be less judging of others. Instead I’ve seen more people in my life who are seeking to be in Jesus footsteps! I’m seeing more and more people being crushed and chastised. We don’t do Easter or Christmas but I also don’t judge those who do I walk out my faith beside all Abba places in our life! The isolation is so real!

[@graftedin3]

Can you imagine how Noah felt in the beginning of his journey, but the end result was life for not only him but his family.

[@maylensamson5486]

@@graftedin3amen amen

[@78mking]

I'm not a part of the Hebrew Roots movement perse but I still keep the Torah because its God's Laws for His people and at the end of the days we will ALL be responsible to keep it. So did God do away with His Laws just to cause the nations to keep it at the end? There is no way around it. 2 And it shall come to pass in the last days, that the mountain of the Lord's house shall be established in the top of the mountains, and shall be exalted above the hills; and all nations shall flow unto it. 3 And many people shall go and say, Come ye, and let us go up to the mountain of the Lord, to the house of the God of Jacob; and he will teach us of his ways, and we will walk in his paths: for out of Zion shall go forth the Torah, and the word of the Lord from Jerusalem. - Isaiah 2:2-3

[@78mking]

@John-pv3ob That makes absolutely no sense. We are supposedly not to keep it now but in the end of days all nations will come learn of it and keep it. And the rest of your spiritualized commentary is very incoherent. Ijs

[@pede8889]

​@@78mkingamen

[@pede8889]

Amen

[@Ty-1452]

@@78mking Do you also do animal sacrifices ?!

[@78mking]

@Ty-1452 Do I do animal sacrifices 🤔 Why would I? Wouldn't that also be a violation of the Torah..animal sacrifices outside of the Temple 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@YESHUAISTWL]

I can relate to her in one way, it is very lonely when you begin practicing Messianic Judaism. The lady in the video behaved as though she was lucky to get out alive. I question whether the group she was with didn't have something else going on. Did they add whipping as the new punishment?

[@sbeasley7585]

The Hebrew Roots movement almost killed me.

[@kimberlya9591]

"Judaism" is under Talmud. Man made. Don't practice Judaism.

[@cheryll137]

I watched you this morning on R.L. Solbergs channel. Im checking out your videos, but i want to say thank you for your testimony. As a gentile, i was in Messianic Judaism, which parallels closely with Hebrew Roots beliefs, for 25 yrs. Its a long story. But i came out of it 2 yrs ago. I was wrestling with guilt about celebrating Christmas. I had a close friend who is still blinded by HR doctrine, so much so, he doesn't talk to me anymore. I pray for him, but truthfully lost hope in him seeing the truth as he us in very deep. But seeing some of your videos about praying and not giving up has raised my hope. Thank you for your channel and helping people see the truth.

[@JustOneStitch]

Hi Cheryll! I've had so many moments of feeling the defeat and hopelessness you describe. I had a dear friend over yesterday and she told me that while I was in HR she about said, "just forget it!" a few times! :D BUT she prayed for me, waited for me and accepted invitations to hang out when I invited her. I'm so thankful she and others did because when I came out, I needed them.

[@cheryll137]

@@JustOneStitch thank you ❤️

[@veritas2145]

“If you love me keep my commandments.”

[@JustOneStitch]

I agree. Jesus is the way, the truth and the life. We are to keep His commandments under the expression of the New Covenant and trust His words.

[@veritas2145]

⁠@@JustOneStitch are Jesus’ Commandments different than God’s?

[@rhhamlin08]

We keep the 10, not all the extra add ons.

[@RQ_Spartan]

@@JustOneStitch And the New Covenant in Hebrews 8:8-12 is quoting Jeremiah 31:31-34 where it says "the Torah on our hearts"...yes, the Torah on our hearts is part of the New Covenant.

[@robertschmidt9296]

​@@veritas2145are you saying that you keep the seventh day Sabbath? And by saying not the add ons, are you talking about the pharisees laws or Yahweh's laws that He didn't write Himself with His own finger in stone?

[@scented-leafpelargonium3366]

That is a very wide term, "Hebrew roots movement." That is saying I belong to Christendom. That hardly nails down all the nuances that entails.

[@JustOneStitch]

Scented-leaf, I agree with you. This is indeed a very wide term. There is a commonality in keeping several of the laws, though I understand wide variation in the "why" and "how." I am sharing my personal testimony, and what Hebrew Roots is in my area of the world. I do believe there is a danger in this movement as it tends to slide very quickly from observing these things "because we want to" to "because we should" to "it is required." Thank you for your comment.

[@scented-leafpelargonium3366]

@@JustOneStitch Yes, I am very concerned also at some of the manifestations of what gets dubbed the "Hebrew Roots Movement," including the Sacred Name Movement etc., but I also watch with horror and incredulity some of the manifestations of non-Hebrewistic churches today. I don't believe in throwing out the baby with the bathwater concerning both sides. I believe in a One New Man all-body Church from Scripture that should be made up of both Jews and Gentiles, so that the Jewish/Hebraic component blesses the Church without Gentiles feeling the compunction to become Jewish, but there is also a lot of man-made stuff woven in too. I wish you well, but sentimentality can play a huge part when it comes to seeking God's will in giving up some traditions that He may not require us to keep observing. This applies to all traditions, such as with Buddhists, Hare Krishna, Sikism, Islam and also in Christendom. It can be tempting to hold onto familar and fond things related to family and friends etc. But we are all on a journey, and what I believed five years ago I do not believe now, as we keep growing in grace as we seek to serve Him in a way that is honouring to him. I grow many nice plants in my greenhouse. Some of them get pruned back at times. But only when the dead matter is removed will the plant truly flourish with new growth and even beautiful flowers. I wish you well, but Yeshua is Jewish. Don't chastise Him for what that entails for us. 🌿 🌸

[@christopherfranklin3050]

Lev 23 declares th'e feasts are not Jewish they are His, the Creators. I never turn down a feast even if it is Yom Kippur. We do not GOT to do it we GET to do it. Maybe your friends were real fanatics when grace leads one to liberty not licentiousness. Dietary instructions are and never were a salvation issue but rather an emphasis on health. I have never isolated myself from my brothers with there special holidays. You must have fellow-shipped with real sticklers. Torah is always interpreted as instruction and teaching , not law. My group is very inclusive and not at all judgemental or divisive. Remember, the Sabbath was created for man , not vice a versa. We all deserve a rest! Thank you for sharing .

[@tedneff7676]

“Because finding fault with them, He says: “Behold, the days are coming, says the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah-” ‭‭Hebrews‬ ‭8‬:‭8‬ ‭NKJV‬‬ So if the new covenant was made with Israel which new covenant are you entering into?

[@robertschmidt9296]

Good point.

[@pede8889]

Amen. It is for the spiritual Israelites. All 12 gathered tribes( not sure about Dan yet). HalleluYah.

[@graftedin3]

I noticed you spoke of different levels in Hebrew Roots and I would point out that those exist in all groups . In most groups you have the ones that are pew sitters and those that show up only on Easter and Christmas and you have teachers and some of them are held in high regard . Then you have the lay preachers another step and then the Pastors. In all churches you have the Spiritual and the ones that just show up because it is a good thing.

[@Jerusha-rm8dk]

Interesting that the presenter says she was in "Hebrew Roots" for two years, but was already "one of the biggest teachers.in my group of the law" (mm 12:30). She was a novice with superficial knowledge of her subject. Characterization of Torah as Old Testament Law replaced by New Testament Grace is as old as Marcion.

[@truthseeker73able]

I was confused for a while by the hebrew routes too. I really didnt fully understand dispensation back then. I do listen to Mike winger and John MacArthur as well they definitely helped. I would suggest Robert Breaker on KZbin as well....he is especially good with breaking down the dispensations. I truly understand it now because of his content. Im happy you found your way back...God bless you.

[@robertschmidt9296]

Anyone who teaches the pretrib rapture theory as Biblical fact also teach things that contradict what Yahushua said.

[@truthseeker73able]

@@robertschmidt9296 I'm not sure what to think about the rapture event. There are many men smarter then me on both sides of that issue. I just listen to both sides to try to see which makes more sense. I believe all that is purposely unclear because we are supposed to be ready at any time. Following someone else's study is never a replacement for your own study though.

[@judereggievelez7467]

Thank you for sharing this. I, too, have a family who are in the movement. Blessings to you from our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ!

[@FormerTrucker]

One thing about the law of Moses, you either keep all of them or none of them. Galatians 5 if you're trying to keep the law of Moses you are bound to keep all of them. And try to get justified under the law which is impossible.

[@JustOneStitch]

Hi Big Steve, exactly! It's all or nothing in the law. Thank you for sharing that!

[@emmakate6518]

And do you mean those who follow the las intentionally? Because id say the majority of Christians follow (or try to atleast) the law to some degree. I mean how can we say something is sin if not for the law and then how can we go about not sinning if we dont know what is considered sinful?

[@JustThinkingAboutIt-i5k]

Not even close to being true. Not even Jesus was required to keep all of the Law. You only keep what applies to you; if you don't have a concept of that you haven't studied anything at all regardless of your denomination period.

[@pede8889]

Who said justified ? Depart from me I never knew you was not for the gentiles.

[@graftedin3]

@@emmakate6518 this cam to mind (Rom 6:15 KJV) 15 What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid.

[@eneeland]

Thank you. I found a video by Lex Meyer which made sense. But as I watched more of his videos, the red flags started to go off and I began to distrust this man's teachings. Then I found your video which backs up my gut. Thank you again.

[@JustOneStitch]

KLR650 that is so encouraging to hear! Thank you for sharing that. Lex Myer has a church near me called Grafted In. While navigating all of this I almost attended there. I called and spoke to him on the phone. If you have not checked out Defending the Biblical Roots of Christianity with RL Solberg, I highly recommend him.

[@carolynpalano9284]

Lex Myer is one of the most knowledgeable teachers of scripture you will find, humble and backs up everything with SCRIPTURE!!!! Are you following man? If you ere actually reading the Bible you would not be saying anything against Lex, it's not his words people!!!!!

[@carolynpalano9284]

What red flags?? Something you didn't want to stop doing? What red flaga??

[@JustOneStitch]

@@carolynpalano9284 Hi Carolyn. No, I do not follow man, but I strongly agree with Scripture that we are to gather together and and have a leadership system in place for accountability. In the same way you listen to Lex Meyer's teachings, I also listen to teachings of men who are called to be teachers. There are many intelligent and knowledgable teachers of Scripture, but some are misled. We are all vulnerable to being misled. I respectfully disagree that Lex Meyer is interpreting God's word correctly.

[@melissajaramilloromero7376]

Very concise and precise! Keep going sister, many will benefit from it. Be blessed 🙌

[@kdslight]

Thank you for your kind words and encouragement.

[@WorshipMyAbbaFather]

Hi Kathrine, I still feel fairly new to the “Whole Bible” Movement, thats what I feel it is to me. Started following/studying December 2018. I’ve mostly watched Bill Cloud out of Chattanooga, TN online in which I’m grateful he & his wife started a fellowship February of 2019. I was living in Metro Atlanta at that time & visited a few fellowships but they didn’t jive with me. I’ve since moved to the south Alabama area & have found a fellowship I’m comfortable with. I do not agree with ALL the things this movement teaches, but add I did not in the Christian church either. I take in the good stuff and spit out the stuff I can’t go for. I Gotta be honest, The Sabbath was not a stretch for me…I loved resting on Saturday’s and not doing anything because I had worked hard through the week & was tired. I always felt guilty for not cleaning or doing this or that… Christmas was always depressing for me. I came from a broken home, and there were NEVER “family” traditions, etc. I would go in debt buying presents & pay them off afterwards. This teaching just makes more sense to me…I do agree with you that I feel they need to be more evangelistic and sharing Yeshua/Jesus with non-believers. Also, I feel the Birth of Yeshua/Jesus needs to be celebrated during The Feast of Tabernacles since from my studies so far, I believe that’s probably when He was born. Why not celebrate it? He birth is documented in the Gospels, so it was pretty important if you look at The “whole Book”. I DO NOT Believe in animal sacrifices, even if there was a Temple, Yeshua paid the price…made the ultimate sacrifice, and yes, God says He has forgotten our sins “as far as the east from the west”, which is to say…they are gone. I do think this movement needs “The Spirit”, The Word says to “worship Him in Spirit and Truth” I truly believe Yeshua is coming back for “one new man” and I feel He is getting us all on the “same page” and that page is not gonna look like modern day Christianity or Messianic Judaism. As we as believers have to choose between the world or God’s ways, I think things are gonna become more clear as He moves us to the “One New Man” God Bless you on your Journey…you are MY SISTER in Yeshua, right where you are😊❤️

[@JustOneStitch]

Thank you, Farm Lady. Your gentle and kind words are so appreciated. Thank you for sharing with me as a fellow sister in Christ!

[@karendavidson1182]

Farm Lady, I appreciate your kindness and gentleness but t would like you to back up your beliefs with scriptures that validate your current ideas. So many who believe as you do now, ignore so many scriptures that do validate the fact that God expects us to try to walk as Jesus did... Obedience is the Father's love language. Please study to understand the meaning of the word "sin" in 1 John 3:4

[@kurtanderson5023]

What a great explanation. I have stumbled across this topic and was deeply concerned with those that promote it like Jim Staley and those that spam FB pages and KZbin channels full of rhetoric and condemnation directed at Gentiles who do not follow the Torah and their teachings. They are every bit a cult and a false belief system. God bless your strength to remove yourself from this group. God will absolutely reward you.

[@Gigi2four]

Thank you. This video came up on my KZbin feed and I will say, that I experienced all of the things you mentioned. My husband and I are at odds now since he still wants to hold onto this mindset (Tzitzit, feasts, kosher, etc) feeling that they are required for righteousness. I will not be put back under these HR teachings. After 5 years, I finally feel free in Christ. Carry on with your journey and God bless you ❤️

[@carolynpalano9284]

You mean you feel free of the burden of the laws of Christ?

[@JustOneStitch]

Hi Sherry. My heart goes out to you and I am writing you and your husband on my personal prayer list. I will have some videos coming up here soon with my husband answering questions about what we went through and his perspective on being in a marriage with a spouse walking in Hebrew Roots.

[@Gigi2four]

@@JustOneStitch thank you so much ❤️

[@Gigi2four]

@@carolynpalano9284 I’m sorry, I should have tagged Katherine as this was intended for her. Sorry for your confusion. Also, I don’t argue about spiritual things

[@robtrindade9087]

So how do think you'll manage in the millennium? "And it shall come to pass that everyone who is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall go up from year to year to worship the King, the Lord of hosts, and to keep the Feast of Tabernacles. And it shall be that whichever of the families of the earth do not come up to Jerusalem to worship the King, the Lord of hosts, on them there will be no rain. If the family of Egypt will not come up and enter in, they shall have no rain; they shall receive the plague with which the Lord strikes the nations who do not come up to keep the Feast of Tabernacles. This shall be the punishment of Egypt and the punishment of all the nations that do not come up to keep the Feast of Tabernacles." Zechariah 14:16‭-‬19 NKJV The Law was NEVER salvific. If people in the Old Testament could have been saved by following the Law and things like animal sacrifice, they never would have needed a Savior, and Christ would be irrelevant. Therefore it is NOT an offense to the cross when it is resumed under Christ's direction during His millennial reign. There is a FOURTH temple, priests and Levites, and ANIMAL SACRIFICE continually being practiced because it was never an alternative to the work of saving grace, and Christ being the Word in the flesh literally embodies the very laws you hate.

[@beckyyoussef2669]

I really wish I could hear this. There's basically no sound for some reason

[@JustOneStitch]

Hi Becky! I'm sorry there was an issue with my video as you tried to listen. Hopefully it was just a glitch and clears up. ~ Kathryn

[@robertschmidt9296]

I used closed captions.

[@larryroach6887]

Can you tell sometime what the tipping point was for you to leave Hebrew Roots? Thank you for sharing your story. I love your gracious loving heart!! I'm praying for that kind of a heart when talking to people I don't agree with.

[@JustOneStitch]

Thank you so much for your kind words, Larry! Yes, I will share that tipping point in an upcoming video. In short, I was told I had demons in my home for having a Christmas tree up by two dear friends in that group. The extremity of that statement and the emotions of intense fear they had pretty much snapped me out of it--I realized I wasn't living in Christ's freedom. But some things leading up to that moment started bringing me back. ~ Kathryn D.

[@carolynpalano9284]

@One Stitch in the Veil your friends were trying to tell you that by setting up a Christmas Tree in your home( which in God's eyes is idol worship) then you are inviting the attention of the false spirits. If you believe in the power of God and he is a supernatural being, then logic stands to say that there are evil spirits as well,and we know this from reading the Bible. What they were trying to tell you is that you are in essence opening a door for whatever is connected to the Pagan Holliday of Christmas. I am not a perfect believer at all in God's eyes, none of us are, but to have had the knowledge, and at some point you knew that truth, you turned your back, what if you are wrong? How is one stupid day out of the year worth your salvation? But when you come on You Tube and plant what happened to YOU as some kind of excuse for others ,you are going to get pushback. So far you have not listed one single bit of SCRIPTURE to prove your point! Shouldn't you have proof before you lead others to destruction?

[@listening4hisvoice]

@@carolynpalano9284 your comments could be "Exhibit A" as to why Hebrew Roots is an absolute mess. And I know that is the case because I was once there, for many years. I'm sure Kathryn appreciates your concern, but at the same time am sure she is confident that she has no reason to worry for her salvation, as you claim.

[@carolynpalano9284]

@listening4hisvoice I don't know much about Hebrew Roots, but I have an absolute understanding of what Our Creator thinks of Pagan practices, if a person invokes the " BE convinced in your own mind " philosophy than anything you do as an individual is A ok right? I do not understand after having studied the scriptures for some time now, how a person could be ok with celebrating Christmas! Just the history of this day , and the fact that it isn't Christ's birthday but the known birthday of a Pagan God should cause a person to consider if this is what YAHWEH means by worshipping him! Did I enjoy Christmas? Yes I did very much, but I needed to show God that I loved" him " more than that Day.

[@listening4hisvoice]

@@carolynpalano9284 hi! Sadly, the stuff about 12/25 being the birthday of these other gods is total baloney and has no basis in real history. Also most if not all the “pagan” stuff said about the day also has no historical standing (unless you follow pseudo-history).

[@beckyfrechette4439]

Pretty accurate! I was in the movement for over 5 years. I’d say most skip that whole first floor all together and instantly think sabbath keeping is a law we are all supposed to keep.

[@JustThinkingAboutIt-i5k]

The Sabbath was made for you to be a blessing. Why would you have a problem with God setting aside a special day just for you? Being Torah Observant doesn't save you; its how you love him. If you love me "Keep my commandments".

[@robertschmidt9296]

Why did Yahweh write the ten commandments with His own finger and not have Moses write it and why did He write it in stone that will last til the end of the age instead of on a material that will decay and perish? The Sabbath was established at the time of creation, before Jews even existed. No one has the authority to change that.

[@stephaniebahamondes]

What about the name of God and Jesus. They say that it is supposed to be Yahuah and Yahushua. Is that correct?

[@JustOneStitch]

Hi Stephanie! There are several variations Hebrew Roots followers will use. Each seems to claim their way is correct. This is very similar to, and influenced by the Sacred Name Movement. There is also Yeshua.

[@stephaniebahamondes]

@@JustOneStitch Hello! Thank you for your reply! Yes I found out about this information by reading about the sacred name movement as well. None of them agree to which name actually call Jesus or God. Where there is confusion, God is not in it! But that to pages like yours and many others, we can hear the truth! Be blessed!!!

[@majesty10xu15]

A red flag for me is when an old Christian friend now kept exclusively referring to God as the Almighty and Jesus as Yeshua.

[@Skip-7374]

Yeshua is jesus' name in Hebrew. There is no J in Hebrew. And throughout the old testament Elohim is God and Yahweh is used for the LORD. That's where they get it.

[@intentionally-blank]

Chuck Missler referred to the son of God as Yeshua as do I. I'm not of the circumcision.

[@JustThinkingAboutIt-i5k]

hinging what you believe on the pronunciation of a name is not good regardless of the denomination. Once upon a time I had a friend in China; his name was Wai. Your not gonna believe what they called him in the USA. Wai! If you think about it; we retain the name our mother gives us no matter where we go; deciding which denomination you believe in based on the pronunciation of our Messiah's name is embarrassing. If anything; people that decided what the believe based on this is a BIG RED FLAG

[@intentionally-blank]

@@JustThinkingAboutIt-i5k What is the messiah's name and what is his father's name?

[@JustThinkingAboutIt-i5k]

@@intentionally-blank God, God. next question? A prayer with these in it actually still works if it has the right reference pointing to the right entity. Do you think any sincere prayer is unheard because someone didn't use the exact pronunciation?

[@AC-kx5vr]

Need perhaps a mike. Sound quality not so good.

[@JustOneStitch]

I agree! :D Slowly working on getting better equipment and learning as I go. Thank you for the feedback.

[@bobbytogores4902]

I PRAISE the Lord Jesus the Christ today! This is a disciple of Jesus Christ and a Berean. Thank you for your shining example. Thank "YOU" our Father's grace and peace to you. Thank "YOU"

[@JustOneStitch]

Bobby, I am so thankful to God that he brought me out and that His faithfulness and mercy are being magnified by what He has done. Thank you for your encouraging words!

[@TakeRefugeInYeshua]

I learned a great deal from this guy, Bobby Collier. I still refer to the Messiah as Yeshua. Bobby uses the name Jesus. But his teachings really straightened me out about who, YHWH, Yah, Yahuah, etc... who that actually is. I am so glad for you on the journey out of Hebrew Roots/Sacred Name. Although, there are a great deal of observances we are safe to take note. I still weigh the difference of "traditions of men' as opposed to what is actually in scripture. I believe it is a good practice to test those principles. When a tradition pulls us away from glorifying the Father, then perhaps it's not a good idea. Yeshua manifests the name Father. That's all I needed to see, once again. Elohim wrote Genesis 1 YHWH Elohim wrote Genesis 2:4 So now, I am looking into the Divine Council mentioned in Psalm 82. It has singular Elohim judging plural elohim and a very deep topic. Mike Heiser expounds on this extensively. I can say, that I do not fit any of the modern day churches or movements. Once you take on that name, you take on the whole kit and caboodle. I still say, the Letter J was created in the 1500's and that's when Jesus was created. His mother called him Yeshua. In terms of Old Testament, we need to be careful, because the devil masquerades as God, as an angel of light. But you can see his bad fruit. That's the key. Let Yeshua call the devil out on all his deception. kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y5a8oWeEZd2ejs0

[@ryanlogan2911]

This whole issue was resolved in Acts Ch 15. My experience with these nutcases is they will try to out Pharisee each other and there will be continuous division and splitting into factions. The other experience is that no matter how much they preach “Torah” it will inevitably end up in Kabbalah ( the Synagogue of Satans witchcraft the Jews practice)

[@JustOneStitch]

I have also noted a tie to Kabbalah, especially among the more obviously gnostic groups. It starts out so innocently portrayed but never stops there. I pray they come out.

[@harryabrahams2770]

It’s amazing how many scholars don’t know the difference between the word covenant and the word law. Jeremiah talks about a new covenant not a new law. No where do the scriptures state that the law is done away with simply because God accomplishes all His purpose. There is ZERO scripture where God tells people to celebrate Christmas simply because the Word was in the beginning. Got Torah Got Truth

[@lindsayball5080]

How do you keep the law of Moses after God destroyed the temple ?

[@harryabrahams2770]

@@lindsayball5080 same as Daniel , who when in exile ate kosher and kept any law that didn’t require the temple….God gives and takes away…blessed be the name of YHVH…just because there is no temple doesn’t give anyone license to not keep the Sabbath and replace it with Sunday or Saturday. Thanks for the question…. Got Torah Got Truth

[@JustOneStitch]

Hi Harry! There also was no law telling the Jews to celebrate the Feast of Dedication, but they were free to celebrate and glorify God for what He had done. How much more do I celebrate and thank my God for Christ's birth and resurrection! :)

[@harryabrahams2770]

@@JustOneStitch yes you are free to celebrate just like the Jews as for me, I will keep the appointed feast of Tabernacles since that’s what YHVH requires of His people and since Yehoshua has no beginning because He is God and has not commanded any of his children to celebrate His birth I won’t. Got Torah Got Truth

[@andrewvangils3112]

@@lindsayball5080 Deut 12:13-14 - 13 Take heed to thyself that thou offer not thy burnt offerings in every place that thou seest: 14 But in the place which the Lord shall choose in one of thy tribes, there thou shalt offer thy burnt offerings, and there thou shalt do all that I command thee. You do realize that God knew that Israel would have situations where they wouldn’t have access to a Levitical priest nor the temple? God was not ignorant nor would he create a Law we could not keep.

[@a.k.a.watchmenwakeup]

2Pe 2:20 For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning. 2Pe 2:21 For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them. 2Pe 2:22 But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog is turned to his own vomit again; 👉and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire.👈 Proverbs 26 Isa 28:1 Woe to the crown of pride, to the drunkards of 🇺🇸Ephraim, whose glorious beauty is a fading flower, which are on the head of the fat valleys of them that are overcome with wine!

[@guyfnord7743]

Thanks for sharing your journey. I'm a bit confused though, you rambled on a lot and I am not sure what your warning is? I'm 100% with you on the strong foundation of the Old Testament. I wish my journey started with those wonderful books. I'm not a part of the Hebrew Roots movement, but I am researching and believe that Christians should be observing the true sabbath and the feasts and those who say we are not under the law anymore are dead wrong. Jesus said it best: Matthew 5:17-18: "Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished." One thing to consider... Christmas is fun and so is Halloween, but would you give them up to honor God? "A religion that does not require the sacrifice of all things never has power sufficient to produce the faith necessary unto life and salvation." Proof of this is with the Apostles, they all were martyred in horrible ways; so why is that ok for them but not for the rest of us part-time luke-warm Christians? They gave up everything and we're going to balk at giving up some foods and pagan holidays? Rev 3:16: "But since you are like lukewarm water, neither hot nor cold, I will spit you out of my mouth!"

[@kellydorney3514]

Thank you for sharing your testimony. I also heard your testimony with Prof. Solberg. It was so encouraging and helped shed light on what is behind the mind set that only allows a person to see thru the lens of the Mosaic Law, instead of thru the Spirit and the clear Gospel message in scripture. ✝️

[@bont7948]

Interesting. We “keep” as in observe the feasts/sabbath/dietary laws because we know Jesus didn’t come to abolish the law and prophets but to fill up (fulfill) the law. But for us it’s served to teach us more about our Father and Savior. We firmly believe that faith in Jesus alone leads to salvation. It couldn’t be more clear in scriptures. But the law simply showed His people how to live righteously and set apart lives. It also served as a judge for the nation as they didn’t have a king or ruler (other than God) so needed instruction on what to do when the people sinned. Obviously Jesus is our High Priest, our sacrificial Passover lamb... we have found the feasts much richer and deeper than Christmas and Easter. I’m sorry your experience was so negative. I can see how that can happen very easily and we have to be so careful not to fall into adding to Jesus but also not falling into being of the world and not set apart. God bless you.

[@JustOneStitch]

Hi Bon T. Thank you for your kind message. I find the feasts very rich and beautiful, but they were a shadow and the Light has come. We celebrated Passover this year and the Last Supper where He points Passover to Himself..so rich, so beautiful and pointing to our Savior who has come. "When a change in the priesthood takes place, there must also be a change in the Law." Hebrews 7:12

[@joeywilliams2675]

@@JustOneStitch there is a change in the “law” the Leviticle law does not apply. But go ahead go with the world. It’s your life. No one can chose it for you. And I do understand some have really perverted truth. But Christian’s are Daniel 7. They are the fourth beast. Read what that fourth beast will do. But some of the Hebrew roots people are being cult like. And it seems you landed yourself not in truth but in deception. Hope peace finds you on your journey.

[@michaeldunigan1067]

What does that mean "fill up" the Law. The Law was incomplete because it offers justice but doesn't offer salvation. The New Covenant in the blood of Yeshua is a complete covenant because it offers both justice and salvation. As Paul said when that which is complete is come that which is incomplete must be done away with. The old covenant is fading away. It has no redemptive value and is only functional as a wonderful way to show Jewish love for God. In the sense of a tradition.

[@bont7948]

@@michaeldunigan1067 I agree the law didn’t offer salvation. It showed Gods people how to live set apart, righteous lives. The root word for fulfill is “pleroo” which means to fill up, to make full, to fill to the full. With that understanding of the word Jesus’ statement that He didn’t come to destroy/abolish the Law but to fulfill it makes a lot of sense. Like He filled it up with meaning. He made clear the spirit of the law while explaining the letter of the law.

[@michaeldunigan1067]

@@bont7948 He also said that when the Law was fulfilled that it would pass away. Under the New Covenant the Law is written upon our heart. Internal Law. Not the letter of the Law of Moses but the Law of God in spirit. When the Law of God is written upon our heart it becomes a natural part of our character and we cannot break it. Therefore it is the perfect Law of Liberty. Complete Law. Giving both justice and salvation. The Law of Moses is losing it's sovereignty. It will become only a tradition which is a wonderful way to show Jewish love for God. Internal Law is waxing strong. But it is a process to avoid chaos. I am not being argumentative. Just information.

[@themidwestwholesaler]

Thank you for your boldness and courage. Please pray in agreement for a woman close to my heart would see the truth and come out of this movement in Jesus name 🙏 Thank you!

[@JustOneStitch]

Absolutely.

[@Truemercy703]

To anyone who reads this: If you haven’t reached the point where you realize that Paul sounds like he’s preaching two different doctrines then you can’t POSSIBLY understand the warning Peter gave about Paul’s letters. He says that Paul is difficult to understand and that the unlearned and unstable people twist what he says to their own destruction as they do the rest of scriptures. He then continues to with another warning telling us to beware that we don’t fall from our own steadfastness being led away with the error of the wicked. 2 Peter 3:16-17 Now, if you are thinking that Paul is straightforward and that it’s obvious that the law is no longer in effect from what he says, then that’s proof you haven’t spent enough time untangling Paul and you’re ignoring the other things he wrote like this. “Do we make void the law through faith? Certainly not! On the contrary we establish the law” Romans 3:31. Establishing something is to make firm, permanent, complete acceptance. Paul cannot say the law is gone in one breath and then permanent in another. This only means one thing…..We have NOT understood Paul like Peter warned. Think about this: why would Jesus say to not even THINK that he came to abolish the law? Why did He make it a point to say that until heaven and earth pass not even a jot would pass from the law? Heaven and earth are still here. Why will Jesus tell many to depart from Him for practicing lawlessness? Jesus is the law! He is the word made flesh! Why would the psalmists say how much they love God’s perfect law and meditate on it day and night? Don’t be deceived. Every apostle kept the laws. Man just doesn’t like laws and so easily accepts a doctrine that tells them they are gone. “Here are those who KEEP the commandments of God AND the faith of Jesus” Rev 14:12 Faith without works is dead. You need both. And do we really think that it’s okay that Constantine changed the sabbath to Sunday? Our mainstream Christianity justifies anything. Come out of her my people! Sunday is the Catholic Church. I pray everyone gets on the straight and narrow path. Amen

[@KeepersoftheTorah]

I never expected an attack on Torah believers after coming to the truth. But it is written.

[@RandomTChance]

Praise God you got out! 🕊️🙏🕊️

[@gigi2091]

I can relate to that, had the same journey, I was in it for around two years, teh worst part is that they believe that you have to work out your salvation even after getting saved though Jesus, the blood and the cross, you still have to keep all (yesterday I even found one teache saying you hav eto keep ALL tehj laws not only teh ten commandments9 to keept your salvation . What I have learned blessed me very much and they have a deep understanding for teh scripture when it comes to teh OT and I gained a better understanding for the NT, teh letters and the background of teh gospels and there is a lot in teh OT which is beneficial for us if we apply it but I felt so bound and all these feastst were so foreign to me and I felt so awkward celebrating them so that I dissociated myself from this movement

[@JustOneStitch]

Hi gigi! Thank you so much for sharing this. I am so joyed you are free from the bonds of this works-based faith, and that you are now bonded to Christ who's yoke is easy and burden is light. God bless you!

[@gigi2091]

@@JustOneStitch 🙏😊

[@robertschmidt9296]

The seven annual feasts are about Yahweh's plan of redemption for mankind and our Creator expects us to keep them. They might seem foriegn to you but you need to learn them if your redemption means anything to you.

[@JJ-Misch]

I’m curious to know if you know how many veils were in the temple and which one was torn.

[@JustOneStitch]

Hebrews chapter 9 tells us there were two veils/curtains. The original instructions for the Tabernacle in Exodus 26:31-37 discusses these 2 and where they were placed. (Entrance to the tent and entrance to the Most Holy Place containing the arc.) I find the following a great teaching on this, but there are others. I believe by the evidence presented in Scripture it was the curtain at the entrance to the arc...the Holy of Holies room. I am by no means a Bible teacher or theologian, but as a sister in Christ I'm happy to share links to teachings by men of God who I find to be good, sound, Godly teachers. www.gty.org/library/sermons-library/42-288/the-king-crucified-consummation-at-calvary

[@JJ-Misch]

@@JustOneStitch There were 4 veils in the Temple during the time of Jesus. The problem is that people make a doctrine out of this and not know what Veil was torn. The veil that was torn was not the two veil that were in front of the holy of holy‘s. it was the veil that was at the entrance of the temple.

[@JJ-Misch]

This app is a good resource to understand more about the temple if you’re interested

[@Ruth-sd3mf]

Thank you for sharing! I joined a hrm group a little over a year ago with my family. And while I was very straight forward about wanting to learn more about God through the feasts and upfront about not believing sabbath to be "kept", now all of a sudden I am accused of "wanting to sin" because of not believing to need to keep sabbath. Jesus is my sabbath rest, all days are his! I have noticed that along the way I kept more and more to myself. For example, we eat pork (because all foods are permitted) but I would not dare to say. My husband would call the assembly "church" and I would shush him"dont call this church they hate that"....why I didnt want to see how manipulative this group of people is...it feels like being gaslighted. I kinda feel stupid for letting me and my family fall for the lie. They seemed so loving. Untill you don't show progress in your keeping of the law. ....but I'm not sure how to get out of it. We love the people there, but I just can't participate anymore.

[@JustOneStitch]

Hi Ruth! Thank you for sharing this. I can relate very much to what you said. The love does seem to run out when we don't continue down the path. I am praying God bring you a body of believers like He did for me and my husband. I can also relate to loving my HR family so much and facing losing them.

[@DaddyAZTL]

all foods are not permitted. jesus said eating with unwashed hands doesnt make you unclean. eating unclean foods makes you unclean.

[@JustOneStitch]

@@DaddyAZTL Jesus did say eating with unwashed hands doesn't make you unclean. That is true. The second half of your statement, however, is not written there. Jesus did say, " “Listen and understand. A man is not defiled by what enters his mouth, but by what comes out of it.” And we are told in 1 Corinthians 6:12-20 to flee sexual immorality because it is sinning against our own bodies. We are told here that "every other sin a man commits is outside the body...that your body is the temple of the Holy Spirit." Ingesting something is most definitely WITHIN the body and putting it inside the temple. We are told here there is only one sin against one's own body....it is sexual immorality, not eating unclean animals.

[@DaddyAZTL]

@@JustOneStitch listen. If ANYONE GOES AGAINST THE LAW OF MOSES THEY ARE A FALSE PROPHET WHAT DONT YOU GET?

[@sbeasley7585]

​@@DaddyAZTLActually, anyone who tries to keep the law of Moses is under a curse and a transgressor. The law of Moses and the law of Christ are two different things. Follow Jesus. He brings life. Moses brings death.

[@DF111-j1m]

In that He says, “A new covenant,” He has made the first obsolete. Now what is becoming obsolete and growing old is ready to vanish away. Hebrews 8:13

[@SpotterVideo]

Nobody can completely understand the Bible unless they understand the relationship between the Old Covenant given to Moses at Mount Sinai and the New Covenant fulfilled in blood at Calvary. What brings all local churches together into one Body under the blood of Christ? The answer is found below. New Covenant Whole Gospel: Let us now share the Old Testament Gospel found below with the whole world. On the road to Emmaus He said the Old Testament is about Him. He is the very Word of God in John 1:1, 14. Awaken Church to this truth. Jer 31:31 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah: Jer 31:32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by husband unto them, saith the LORD: Jer 31:33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people. Jer 31:34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more. Is the most important genealogy in the Bible found in Matthew 1:1 (Gal. 3:16)? Is God's Son the ultimate fulfillment of Israel (John 1:49)? Why has the modern Church done a pitiful job of sharing the Gospel with modern Orthodox Jews? Why would someone tell them they are God's chosen people and then fail to share the Gospel with them? Who is the seed of the woman promised in Genesis 3:15? What did Paul say about Genesis 12:3 in Galatians 3:8? Who is the "son" in Psalm 2? Who is the "suffering servant" of Isaiah 53? Who would fulfill the New Covenant promised in Jeremiah 31:31-34? Who would fulfill the timeline of Daniel chapter 9 before the second temple was destroyed? Why have we not heard this simple Old Testament Gospel preached on Christian television in the United States on a regular basis? Once a person comes to understand the New Covenant promised to Israel and Judah in Jeremiah 31:31-34, which is found fulfilled by Christ during the first century in Hebrews 8:6-13, and Hebrews 10:16-18, and specifically applied to the Church in 2 Corinthians 3:6-8, and Hebrews 12:22-24, man-made Bible doctrines fall apart. Let us now learn to preach the whole Gospel until He comes back. The King of Israel is risen from the dead! (John 1:49, Acts 2:36) We are not come to Mount Sinai in Hebrews 12:18. We are come instead to the New Covenant church of Mount Zion and the blood in Hebrews 12:22-24. 1Jn 3:22 And whatsoever we ask, we receive of him, because we keep his commandments, and do those things that are pleasing in his sight. 1Jn 3:23 And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment. 1Jn 3:24 And he that keepeth his commandments dwelleth in him, and he in him. And hereby we know that he abideth in us, by the Spirit which he hath given us. Watch the KZbin videos “The New Covenant” by David Wilkerson, or Bob George, and David H.J. Gay.

[@RandomTChance]

I have to say the David Wilkerson video was a good recommendation. I just watched the first part. 🕊️

[@RandomTChance]

Final comment 😁 The Bob George New Covenant vid was fantastic. I'm watching the David H J Gay one now. I normally stand against the SDA but found the HRM to be very similar. The HRM only lacks a false prophet with her additional commandments to be Adventists. I strive to be able to communicate the New Covenant to those in bondage. The gentlemen you recommended will help me, and others I plan to share them with, do so. Thank You for standing for the Truth and sharing info many need in this struggle. 🕊️

[@SpotterVideo]

@@RandomTChance May God bless you for being willing to look at the truth found in God's Word, that many today ignore. You are a pearl of great price!

[@radicallyrescued]

Such Shallowness in Truely Understanding Yah’s Scripture..

[@intentionally-blank]

Will you expand a bit please?

[@robertschmidt9296]

​@@intentionally-blank I'm not positive what the OP meant but I think I do. In my own words, when you start to truly understand Yahweh's Scripture, you will see that the Scriptures are far deeper than disobedient Christians realize. Most Christians beliefs are shallow because they are taught to believe what they mistakenly think Paul said. If you read everything in context, you will see that that isn't what Paul was saying.

[@intentionally-blank]

@@robertschmidt9296 I’ve researched that a bit. I didn’t find it convincing. I did run into a lot of anti-Paul leanings and lowering of Yeshua’s deity.

[@OneSparrow-76]

Oh my! The information about this movement was literally hidden in plain site! I searched for months and could find nothing and then found a plethora of teachings that were there for years…something didn’t want the information found during the years 2017-2021…

[@JustOneStitch]

I, too, was out for months before I could find anything! Then, as you said, help came suddenly.

[@kramsdrawde8159]

Just subbed because a group I am in has a hrm guy coming in and challenging us to debate to which I don't even want to acknowledge him any more than I would a JDUB, Lds/mormon. Even to listen to these people is dangerous for others and also a waste of time for the steadfast believer, after all WE have a better covenant in JESUS, and the law was only a schoolmaster to bring us to Christ. The law keeping has the same draw it did for Pharasees, a Pride of Superiority.

[@JustOneStitch]

Hi Kramsdrawde8159! Yes, it is dangerous to give ear. If we are going to listen and try to understand, I absolutely advocate being in communication with church community and not listening or learning about this belief alone. And, yes, absolutely a spirit of pride.

[@robertschmidt9296]

Every kingdom has laws and penalties for breaking them, that is all except Yahweh's kingdom?

[@robertschmidt9296]

If keeping the law gives you the pride of superiority like the pharisees, you missed the point. We've all failed so no one can boast. This doesn't justify ignoring the law.

[@BibliayFe]

Excellent video 🙏

[@topaz9737]

I understand where you are coming from and I am sorry to hear about what you went through. Such can happen when one try to obey the law out of flesh and fear instead of out of love and spirit. Return to ancient part and following HRM is different things and we need to be clear on that otherwise we will easily get trapped to return to the covenant of law. Having say that, with much respect speaking out of love, I think this video can be very misleading to bring a different idea to the viewers .. God bless. .

[@oilofgladness3474]

Thank you for this heartfelt testimony. I’ve never been part of the HR movement but I have family who is heavily involved. Walking under the law is a dangerous place to be. I have learned in my own walk to have balance. Coming out of the pagan holy days is every bit as important as coming out from under the OT law. Just because we’re not under the OT law doesn’t give us freedom to practice in pagan traditions, so balance is key. Of course these things have to be done with discretion. I don’t think we should shun our family for a Christmas dinner, but submerging ourselves in full pagan custom with all its symbolism is probably not wise either. I used to just love Christmas. I have so many happy memories of it, but after I studied with an honest heart, I couldn’t acknowledge it anymore as a true Christian tradition. “Come out of her” in Revelations absolutely pertains to removing all residue of the old mystery religion (and customs) from our lives. I will be the first to say it was hard for me because we loved this holiday, but once I gave it up, I felt like I had done the right thing. I do not judge or hate anyone who still practices it. I understand them perfectly. I knew for all my life that Jesus was never born in December, but that December 25th was the birth of the sun god. This is fact not theory. To this day, Christmas remains one of the most important “holy days” in the Pagan calendar by their own admission. Something to think on. Satan sprinkles truths in with poison in a complex way to form these cults. That’s why they’re so convincing to even the most sincere and intelligent people. We are notorious for throwing the baby out with the bath water when it comes to truths. The enemy knows this because he has been studying humans for millennia! So what a better place to hide such truths about these pagan holy days than inside a corrupt cult that doesn’t truly honor Christ Jesus (think also JWs 😳), yet they do have lots of truth regarding these holidays. To summarize, each of us have to be led by the Holy Spirit and be in prayer about all things! It’s simple as that. Loving the Lord Jesus and praying for truth (even if we don’t like it) so that we can make the best decisions regarding how we should honor God. The truth will set us free!

[@RandomTChance]

Sounds like you still don't get it. Maybe you should study the writings of Paul.

[@carolynpalano9284]

I'm going to say this again keeping the Sabbath day holy is the fourth Commandment! It's not the people of the Hebrew Roots movement that are telling you to keep the Sabbath its scripture! And no I am not in the Hebrew Roots movement! Sinning isn't supposed to feel good, it sounds to me like it wasn't making you feel good so you needed to separate yourself from it. Sometimes when we are in the middle of being sanctified from our filthy ways Satan loves to come in and make us start doubting. Don't let him win

[@MS-hw1vb]

We r not under that covenant .. the Sabbath was a sign of the mosaic covenant just like circumcision was the Abrahamic covenant. However if you want to keep a OT Sabbath you are free under Christ to do so. As we read the new testament we understand that morality is written inside us when we come a Christ follower. We are not under the law and are not required to follow the 10 commandments we follow Jesus Christ who allows us to become moral and therefore by default we follow a lot of moral laws from back in the OT covenants. The Sabbath was a shadow of Jesus. From the creation covenant with man, we see God rest, not because he tires.out,.God is all powerful he doesn't grow weary, but because he was pointing us to.the revelation of His son. Jesus Christ is our rest, from constantly labouring for our salvation. We no longer have to pause our sacrificial system one day a week because Jesus was the final sacrifice! By remembering Him we remember the Sabbath bc he is the Sabbath, he is holy and all in all. We rest in what he did at Calvary every single day of our lives, not just one day a week.

[@robertschmidt9296]

@@MS-hw1vb I can't think of anything that God did for no reason, there was a reason for everything He did. So why did He write the ten commandments with His own finger instead of the having Moses write it? And why did He write it in stone, which is a material that can last to the end of the age and not on a decomposable material. And why did He instruct moses to put the two tablets of stone in the arc? Where do you get the idea that the Sabbath was a shadow of Yahshua?

[@carolynpalano9284]

@M S brother or sister, you are very misinformed, you personally cannot come to these conclusions if you were READING and studying scripture. Instead you have chosen to recite things I hear over and over again. If you believe that we don't have to follow the 10 commandments, then by what laws do use to lead a moral and rightous life? The apostles continued to honor the Sabbath, they continued to teach what Yeshua taught,Yeshua taught the laws of YAHWEH, what do you think he was teaching when he said " You shall not commit adultery, but I say to you ,whoever has lust in there hearts have already committed adultry"! Or, You shall not murder,but I say to you ,if you have hate in your heart you have murdered ". He didn't say ,after I'm gone you don't have to follow the commandments my father gave, Yeshua put an end to sacrificial law ONLY, as the last sacrifice for sin, so that through him,and repentenance of our sins we may have everlasting life.Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. For truly, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass from the Law until all is accomplished. Therefore whoever relaxes one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever does them and teaches them will be called great in the kingdom of heaven. For I tell you, unless your righteousness exceeds that of the scribes and Pharisees, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven. “You have heard that it was said to those of old, ‘You shall not murder; and whoever murders will be liable to judgment.’ ... Heaven and Earth have not passed away 🙏

[@robertschmidt9296]

@@carolynpalano9284 I'd like to point out something that people overlook in the passage that Yahshua said that He didn't come to abolish the law OR THE PROPHETS. They do see the "until all is fulfilled" (or accomplished) part which they twist to their own narrative. They either skip over OR THE PROPHETS or they ignore the prophets because that's in the old "outdated" testament. The prophecy of His second coming has not yet been fulfilled. The prophecy of His millennial reign has not yet been fulfilled. Six thousand years but the seventh thousand is set apart. Hmm, where have we seen this pattern before? The prophecy of judgment day has not yet been fulfilled. The prophecy of the earth and the elements, the condemned, the grave and death being burned up has not yet been fulfilled. The prophecy of the new heaven and earth being created has not yet been fulfilled. So the question is, was Yahshua telling the truth, or did He lie? If He lied, we are all doomed.

[@JustOneStitch]

@@MS-hw1vb So well said and said kindly. 100%

[@Spillers72]

There is Hebrew roots pastors on KZbin teaching polygamy and having multiple wives. Did you see polygamy in your group.

[@JustOneStitch]

Hi @Spillers72. We did not have that in our group. The Torah group in our area believes in marriage of one man and one woman. I have not heard of polygamy in HR but it does not surprise me. There are many facets to this deception.

[@rmfgbritusa591]

I've seem that. Specifically among people who decided to leave big cities.

[@sojourner760]

As a dog returneth to his vomit, so a fool returneth to his folly. Proverbs 26:11 KJV And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues. Revelation 18:4 KJV Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. Matthew 7:22‭-‬23 KJV iniquity=lawlessness If ye love me ( Jesus), keep my commandments. John 14:15 KJV

[@frankmckinley1254]

Only two years in the movement? You must not have been taught much or understood certain things, I see you rely and reference feelings and perception quite a bit. Based on two of your links in the description I see two antinominians. What can I say, but go in peace back into what makes you feel good. Sad to lose you 😢.

[@jonathanwhiteside816]

Remember that the demons with whom Paul did battle with are the same ones today; they've had 2000 years to perfect their 'art'. So don't feel too bad that you were ensnared. Thank God you were rescued. It's ironic to think that these demons could have specialized in getting pre-Jesus Jews to not keep the Sabbath.

[@JustOneStitch]

Hi Jonathan! That is such and interesting thought about the pre-Jesus Jews! I bet you're right! Thank you so much for the encouragement on being ensnared as well. When I first left the movement I was so full of shame for falling for it, and now encourage others coming out who face that same shame. Anyone can be deceived. So thankful for community and accountability with others in Christ.

[@andrewvangils3112]

I don’t really follow Hebrew roots, but where is the scripture backing up some of their beliefs as wrong? God only called a few sins “abominations” in the Law, one of them being homo sex u a lity(mistyped on purpose) and another eating unclean foods. The church will point at the Law to show homosexuality is a sin but ignore the other abomination in the Law. On top of that, there are words added to the bible(by doing this he declared all foods clean) and Peter’s vision, which had nothing to do with foods according to Peter himself! We only eat unclean foods because they are part of our culture, other unclean foods we would not eat because we were not raised around it such as rats, bats, vultures, all carrying diseases. Finally, how many times are “swine eaters” listed among those being rejected by Christ in future judgement, both in the old and New Testament(Revelation)? We are not saved by works, only by faith. But obedience to the Law, what still applies, is the fruit of that faith.

[@DaddyAZTL]

we are saved by obedience to God. we have faith in The Father as the ONLY TRUE GOD and Obey him that what saves us.

[@robertschmidt9296]

Yahushua was talking to the pharisees when He supposedly declared all food clean. How do you think the pharisees would have reacted to that? Yet no mention of it in Scripture. And Peter's reaction to vision was shock. This took place after Yahushua came and gone. How come Peter, who was in the inner circle didn't get the memo?

[@andrewvangils3112]

@@robertschmidt9296 I’m not sure who you are responding to. All I can tell you is Peter clearly explained what his vision was about. He never said he had the vision and started preaching to Jews they can finally have bacon.

[@robertschmidt9296]

@@andrewvangils3112 I was responding to your comment and I was re enforcing what you said.

[@firmbeliever3847]

Once saved always saved

[@markchris2009]

Everyone is on their own walk with God, so I can’t get angry with this sister for trying to explain her point of view. However, her perspective feels narrowminded and vague to me, and I was hoping for more substance than just a few allegories. As a believer with Jewish roots, I cannot relate to what she’s trying to communicate. What's my perspective? I respect God’s law and believe we are under grace through faith in Jesus. As a Jewish roots believer in Jesus, I have freedom in Christ to observe Shabbat, feast days or festivals, only if I want, out of respect for His law. Not out of some legalistic compulsion. Jesus is our Shabbat, and I choose to rest on Saturday if I can and go to church on Sunday-it's a win-win for me. By the way, I've never turned down a coffee invite on a Saturday. I kept listening to her journey, hoping for some scriptural insights, but I struggled to grasp her analogy of a Jewish roots story involving a skyscraper. She described the first floor as containing a Jewish Roots believer at the early stages of legalism, and the penthouse as full of legalistic, Torah-observant, grace-rejecting Christians. Her analogy felt like a legalist narrative to me, as if once you step onto the first floor, it's inevitable you’ll move up to the penthouse and leave grace behind, ending up as some sort of Christian Judaizer. What? Well, I've been living on that first floor for more than 30 years and am not ever going to relocate. For one, it's too expensive up there and secondly, Jesus already paid the price for me. Maybe for her, she started off on the lower floors and she moved to the top. Than seeing her own leagalism decided to condem the whole Jewish Roots movement. On the other hand, many Christians have little understanding of where their faith originated. I believe the Jewish roots of our faith offers a wonderful sense of fulfillment. I celebrate Passover from a historical perspective of freedom from slavery, God's mighity hand, and also knowing that it's the 3rd cup of wine that gives me redemption in the Lord's supper. It's another win-win. However, I still participate in family Christmas events, even though I know Jesus probably wasn’t born on December 25, and that Christmas likely has pagan roots-just like the Star of David has pagan roots too, as do many other practices. But I don’t judge those who wear the star or those who celebrate Christmas and Easter. To all the rest, your journey may differ from mine or hers. I pray we can all come together in Christ as brothers and sisters, whether you are grafted in or from the original vine. Let's take this opportunity to be reminded to pray for the Jewish people to come to faith in Yeshua as their Messiah. Lets not beat them up for thinking salvation only comes from observing the law rather than faith in Yeshua. When called, the Holy Spirit will lead them to all truth. Then they can find freedom through grace in Jesus.

[@beckyfrechette4439]

Look up Steve Gregg, he has a video series about Torah observance. Its the most fair and accurate critique I have ever seen!

[@JustOneStitch]

Thank you. I’ll look it up,

[@KyleHamrickSr]

I’d recommend following Kingdom in context and consider another understanding. Following Gods instructions is simply our discipleship.

[@The-narrow-gate]

it sounds like you and perhaps your fellowship were stuck in a legalistic mindset. Id like to remind everyone watching this that Jesus did not come to teach lawlessness. We follow Gods commands BECAUSE we are saved, not in order to be saved. Unfortunately most churches are either legalistic with no holy spirit presence or they claim to be full of the spirit and think Jesus did away with the law. They completely disreguard the fact that the holy spirit will cause you to walk in Gods statutes and ordinances.

[@The-narrow-gate]

​@@josephpchajek2685legalism referring to the belief that following the law is what saves a person. You don't follow the law in order to be saved, but rather because you're saved. No one comes to the conclusion that we should be following the man of lawlessness by reading Jesus's teachings. It's only when they why to some of Paul's writings that they say that Paul was teaching against the law. But Paul was a law follower. Not in order to be saved, but because that's what the holy spirit will do inside you. (Jeremiah 31) Acts 21:21 says that the Jews (sounds like a lot of protestant Christians today too)"..have been informed about you that you teach all the Jews who are among the gentiles to forsake Moses, saying not to circumcise the children nor walk according to the practices." Acts 21:24 "And all shall know that what they (Jews) have been informed about you is NOT SO, but that you yourself also walk orderly, keeping the Torah." So anyone that says that Paul taught that the law is done away with, doesn't understand Paul's writings. And to be honest they sound kind of like the Jews that were trying to kill him. The laws not done away with. The holy spirit will cause you to walk in God's ways.

[@The-narrow-gate]

@@josephpchajek2685 what about Hebrews? I believe that we are saved by grace through faith. When I said legalism earlier it was referencing the people who say you can only be saved through the law. From Hebrews chapter 6-7 Paul is speaking about the order of Melchizedek and how it differs from the levitical order. So so when he's talking about the law in Hebrews he's very clearly speaking about the law that pertained to the levitical priesthood on that no one could be a priest unless they were from the tribe of Levi. But that wasn't God's original plan. Initially he wanted everyone to be Kings and priests. But when the Israelites created the golden calf and started worshiping it, God gave the kingship to Judah and the priesthood to levi. The levitical priesthood was only in place to show us that we needed a savior. But then Jesus came as king and priest. But a priest that does not die like the ones before him. Just like Aaron's sons became priests under aaron, God's children become priests under Jesus who is our high priest.

[@The-narrow-gate]

@@josephpchajek2685 ok so you can't just read one verse from Paul and make a conclusion about the whole Bible. If you read all of Romans you will find that he's talking to a group of Jews who are basically turning to legalism. I believe they did have the full torah. Cain and Abel were offering sacrifices. Where'd they learn that? ‭1 John 3:4 "Everyone who practices sin practices lawlessness as well. Indeed, sin is lawlessness." When is transgression of the law. If there were no law (Torah) then how did Kane sin? The Israelites were wandering in the desert and God told them to pick up enough manna to last them throughout the day. on Friday they would pick up a double portion so that they would not have to go pick up any on the sabbath. And if they did pick up extra any other day of the week it would immediately rot and worms would come out of it. So don't you think that maybe they were curious about what the Sabbath even is since there was no law? You quote the verse about all the law and the prophets hang on these two commands, but people often dial to understand that the prophets also hang there. So are the prophets also done away with? Jesus is asked this question about what is the greatest law and he give the best answer possible. If you are loving God with all of your heart mind and soul you will follow his Torah and you will also fulfill the first four of the ten commandments. Likewise, if you are loving your neighbor then you will also be following the Torah and fulfill you last six commands. He gave the most expert answer. It is impossible to follow the law if you do not love God and your neighbor. It's a summary after all. Do we not know what a summary is anymore?

[@ronniewright6639]

Awesome, thank you!

[@4givenofsins]

“Wherefore, beloved, seeing that ye look for such things, be diligent that ye may be found of him in peace, without spot, and blameless. And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you; as also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction. Ye therefore, beloved, seeing ye know these things before, beware lest ye also, being led away with the error of the wicked, fall from your own stedfastness. But grow in grace, and in the knowledge of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. To him be glory both now and for ever. Amen.” ‭‭2 Peter‬ ‭3‬:‭14‬-‭18‬ ‭KJV‬‬ Revelation 12:17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

[@JRMaranatha2024]

I have some dear friends that dove so deeply into this movement that they also went down the rabbit hole of "flat earth" and Q-anon!

[@MrTnewell]

Sister in Christ, thank you for your test., I agree with you 100 percent, my sister in law practices the Hebrew roots, she believes in Jesus our Savior, she as well misses out on family during Christmas and she partakes in the festivals, the dietary laws , she tries to convince that we are wrong but God forgives us - because we are somewhat ignorant or not as spiritually mature ., She almost had my wife convinced, but she took my advice to read Galatians as other scriptures., We get along great and have get togethers frequently. So glad that you are free and found the truth. GOD BLESS . The Word is a lamp unto my feet and ------- -

[@DaddyAZTL]

she is biblically correct. paul is a false prophet. he taught against the God of israel and contridicted Jesus teachings many times

[@MrTnewell]

@@DaddyAZTL tell me one scripture Paul taught against Jesus teaching, or the God of Israel, Paul who was Saul until he had visitation of Jesus and was converted and regenerated on the the road of Damascus. Then he was called Paul. He was martyred for preaching the gospel of Jesus Christ and God.

[@DaddyAZTL]

@@MrTnewell you have one father. - Jesus says. Matthew 23:9 I became your father through the gospel- paul . 1 corinthians 4:15. You have one teacher - Jesus says Matthew 23:8 Paul says you have many teachers - 1 Corinthians 4:15. Jesus says the law will not pass away. Matthew 5:18 Paul says the law is abolished. - ephesians 2:15 Jesus says keeping the commandments leads to life- Matthew 19:17 Paul says the law leads to sin and death - romans 7:8 Deut 13 says if any prophet leads you away from the law they are a false prophet. Psalms 119:44 2 kings 17:37 Deut 4:40 All say keep the law forever.and tbe law is forever. Yet Paul teaches the opposite.

[@MrTnewell]

@@DaddyAZTL taking scriptures way out of context ; jesus was talking about the scribes and pharisees, their hypocrisy ,they were proud and lofty , wearing their over sized phylacteries on their foreheads and left arms and desired praises of men, desiiring to be be called abba father. same as the Rabbis. You have a earthly father as well as i do. Paul established the church in Corinth, He begat them in Jesus Christ, regeneration by the Holy Spirit, Paul even called Timothy his spiritual son, though they had many instructors but they had only one spiritual father (metaphorically ), Paul did not say Heavenly Father, Paul as any pastor, had a burden for corinth. A pastor is to feed the sheep, nourish the sheep, watchover the sheep. Romans 10:4 - For Christ is the end of the law for rightousness to everyone that believeth . Paul was free from all men yet he made himself a servant to all, unto the jews he was under the law, to the gentiles he was without the law , but under the the Law of Christ to win them to Christ. Galatians 5 vrs 18 - But if you are led of the Spirit, you are not under the law. No man is justified by the law, but by Faith in Jesus Christ. Colossians 2 vrs 16 - Let no man judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days 17 - Which are a shadow of things to come, but the body is of Christ. The law was given to Israel not other nations and Jesus completed or fulfilled the law , nothing wrong in keeping the law if you want , Hebrews 10 vrs 16- This is the covenant that i will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts and minds will I write them. . The Apostles kept the law because they were jews even though they knew the were not obligated to it. They kept the law mainly so they could win the jews to Christ, So if you want to keep the ceremonial laws and the feast that is great and we can learn from it, but we are not obligated to the law.

[@DaddyAZTL]

@@MrTnewell tell me if paul was a false prophet would you leave paul? Yes or no. He begat them through Jesus.? So Paul was a "spiritual father" to Timothy? What did Jesus say . call Noone father you have one father the one in heaven. We already have a spiritual father. Paul was not free from the law. The law is FOREVER what don't you get? Peter and the apostles made paul prove he kept the law proving he was under it and had to obey every word in it. Acts 21:20-28 Did christ become everything to win everyone? NO. "To gentiles he was without law" - what do you call a man without law? A Lawless man . Law of christ? Where did christ take about this law of christ? He gave you teachings to obey and said teach everything he commanded you. Paul taught a mystery gospel. The spirit is what helps us obey the law. James 2:24 we are justified by works . Rehab was justified by the law aka works Tell me genius what would the man of lawlessness do? Change the sabbath day. God said if anyone speaks ill of the commandments or law they are a false prophet do you agree?

[@EvangelistToMatthew7.21-23]

Oh sister. I encourage you to fact check your interpretation of Apostle Shaul Paulos. He never forsook shabbat, nor did he eat pork or permit it. Consider what Galations is refering to throughout the entire letter, is his rebuke of the circumcission group. Circumcision is not done by the hands in the flesh, but by the Holy Spirit/ Ruach Khodesh in our hearts. The law that is (has) passing away is circumcision by the hands and sacrifices. Yeshua is our once and for all sacrifice, reconciling us to the Father. But also consider during the Millennial reign of Yeshua from Yerushalayim when the temple has been rebuilt during Yeshua's reign, that anyone who doesn't go up to the temple to keep the three main feasts do not get rain for the entire year. Can we work unto salvation? No!! No one is righteous unto salvation, & all our works (unto salvation) are as filthy menstrual rags. Yet we are exhorted to work out our salvation in fear and trembeling, and to strive lest we fall short through disobedience. Zechariah and Elizabeth were obedient and blamless in all the Torah and they were called righteous. The epistle of James/ Ya'aqov states faith without action shows your faith to be dead, but faith in action makes your faith complete. The Revelation 12:17; 14:12; 19:10b; 20:4. The accuser/hasatan goes to war with those guarding the commands of Elohim and possing the witness of Yeshua Messiah. Do serious Christians have a witness/ confession of Yeshua? Yes. Do they, guard and keep the commandments? No. Particularly the sabbath. Do orthodox Jew's guard keep the commandments? Yes, and a whole bunch of men made doctrine and dogma to which Yeshua rebuked in Matthew chapter 15. Do orthodox Jew's have a confession of Yeshua? No. If you are not grafted into Yisra'el/ Israel as stated in Galations 3:25-29; 1 Corinthians 7:17-20; Colossians 2:8-15; Acts 15:23-29 & Romans 2:26-29. Some of what you relayed of your experience was not right, and it is sad that you experienced this. But as another brother relayed in a post here, don't take onboard what does not align with scripture. The isolation you spoke of is concerning. However, that does not mean that we participate in pagan festivals such as easter/ishtar & Christmas (which is the worship of the sun god mithros, who's 'birthday' is the 25th December, as are all the sun gods, as they originated frombthe worship of Nimrod from babylon before the disperssion of languages. Mass means sacrifice, and sun god worship involved child sacrifice). As Jeremiah 16:19 says: 19. O יהוה, my strength and my stronghold and my refuge, in the day of distress the nations shall come to You from the ends of the earth and say, “Our fathers have inherited only falsehood, futility, and there is no value in them.” The Scriptures. 2009. 3rd edt. Deuteronomy 12:30-32 30guard yourself that you are not ensnared to follow them, after they are destroyed from before you, and that you do not inquire about their mighty ones, saying, ‘How did these nations serve their mighty ones? And let me do so too.’ 31“Do not do so to יהוה your Elohim, for every abomination which יהוה hates they have done to their mighty ones, for they even burn their sons and daughters in the fire to their mighty ones. 32“All the words I am commanding you, guard to do it-do not add to it nor take away from it. The Scriptures. 2009. 3rd edition. Northriding: Institute for Scripture Research. I believe you would appreciate the work coming out of Benai Emunah Institute, with Dr Miles Jones @ www.writingofgod.com They have over 72 1st century texts, manuscripts, & parchments that show Matthew through to Acts, & Hebrews through to The Revelation were all written originally in Hebrew. These texts, show up the changes instituted by Emperor Constatine and his court scribe Eusebius in the 4th Century to the bible we have today. The narrative is essentially the same, but there have been some harmful 'tweaks' added, as well as showing up simple misstranslations, etc. Of note from historical documentation is that Emperor Constatine declared the Messianic church/ kehilah/ assembly heretic. Consider that. In approx 321AD Constatine calls the original Assembly/ church of Yeshua HaMashiach/ Jesus Christ heretical. I find the most accurate teaching of the word of Elohim from Michael Rood, which you can watch for free on youtube. Or visit www.aroodawakening.tv Or Facebook at Shabbat Night Live. Shalom

[@dancingzolins6782]

At the very beginning of your comments, you state that Paul never ate pork or permitted it. Does the following passage imply that Paul was permitting it? "Eat whatever is sold in the meat market without raising any question on the ground of conscience. For “the earth is the Lord's, and the fullness thereof.” If one of the unbelievers invites you to dinner and you are disposed to go, eat whatever is set before you without raising any question on the ground of conscience." - 1 Cor 10:25-27

[@EvangelistToMatthew7.21-23]

@@dancingzolins6782 sister, why did you not quote the following verses which give the context? You can clearly read that Apostle Shaul Paulos, a Pharisee of Pharisees (of which he stated), who also stated elsewhere that the Torah is rightoues and that he loves the Torah. Who also is quoting Psalm 24:1 & 50:12. The context dear sister, is meat sacrificed to idols. Remember, they did not even consider pork food, because as a Pharisee of Pharisees know's, along with the entire Jewish nation, pork is not food. Now those who were converted to Messiah were also taught the Torah as Yeshua taught Torah, so gentile believers are then grafted in and also learn the perfect and pleasing will of the father. They learn Torah. So, what is the law that was passing away? Temple sacrifices, as Yeshua is our once and for all atoning sacrifice for sin, reconciling us back to the Father. Hallelujah, praise YeHoVaH, we could never do it. Circumcission of the flesh is also done away with, which Shaul Paulos spent all of the epistle of Galations expounding on. And in Romans, & Corinthians & Colossians. Instead we are circumcised by the Ruach Khodesh/ Holy Spirit in our hearts. That's the 'New' part of the New/ Renewed Covenant. The marriage contract has changed. Instead b of us having to bear the responsibility, Yeshua bearsnthe responsibility under the new terms of the marriage contract. He shall do the work in us. We see this written in Deuteronomy, and Hebrews. And of course tithes to the temple & the Levitical priests. Why? Because Yeshua is our eternal High Priest. And we are instructed not to forsake the widow, the orphan or the poor in the body of Messiah. As in the responsibility rests with each of us to look out for our brothers and sisters in Messiah. Please, if you have any more questions, I will answer them. I saw the pain that you suffered present on your face when you spoke ofnrhe isolation. There seemed to be another faltering in what you were taught, but I can't quite remember it. It may have been a queery I had. Look forward to hearing from you. Shalom

[@sourmilkministries9445]

@@dancingzolins6782 Shalom. You're not keeping that passage in it's proper context. It's not talking about eating *UNCLEAN* meats like pork, it's talking about eating *CLEAN* meats that may have been offered to an idol. Those are two very different things. In fact, if you're interested, we have a video (Video 13) which addresses this very thing.

[@hanzschaggi4254]

Hmmm, my first statement concerning you. A question even if I might say. Which one? God's ways, or man's ways? There ought to be a difference between the two. Is there something wrong with Passover, you know considering Jesus is supposed to be the actual Passover Lamb? Should I go on? What's on the menu of the FDA? Do you know what's in your dog food? Don't remember pink slime in your McDonald's? Is there something wrong with the Sabbath? Wait! Jesus is the whole reason for something I'm wanting to look forward to and have my rest in Him that I can experience that, come that Day. A reminder once a week from the American Dream! I suppose Memorial Day is more holy for you.

[@JoshuaLeibrant-dr3xv]

You seem very sincere, and kind and I appreciate many of your points, however being a former reformed protestant myself there are vast carry over into protestantism from Catholicism. There are many things that are taught by men like you reference that are also not in line with ancient orthodox Christianity. I would encourage you to read the earliest Christians, study the eastern churches and learn what they teach as well as looking into Anabaptist teachings as well. The Eastern churches do keep several festivals, acknowledge that Saturday day is the Sabbath and Oriental Orthodox today have church twice on the weekends the Sabbath (seventh) and what they also call the eighth day and the first day. I am just learning about Hebrew roots after extensive reading of the ancient bishops directly appointed by the Apostles and evangelists who gave us the new testament. Please young lady be careful, the moral law and the ceremonial law are indeed very different one is binding on all people, some exclusive to the Jews. I would be happy to dialogue with you if you have questions. I believe a work called the Apostalic constitutions by Clement of Rome (who like the author of James was a bishop ordained by an apostle) can explain many things you do not yet understand. Again thank you for your warnings about this movement and please consider that apophatic theology is superior to kataphatic theology as drawing the negative space in art helps you to arrive at a better picture, one of course helping to give us a better mental picture of the Invisible GOD than do positive assertions.

[@dlkjr88]

So I only leave one thought. When you mention “the new covenant”, what covenant is that? In the whole Bible, there is one new covenant. It is with Israel. It hasn’t come yet because they do not believe the promised Messiah has come. So the written Law still stands. Not ceremonial law, not oral tradition. The law that is the instructions to the Most High’s people. The Master telling His people what makes Him happy and what upsets Him. That’s all.

[@carolynpalano9284]

Aahhhhhh ok,John McArthur is teaching lies! Now I understand where you're coming from.

[@robertschmidt9296]

Ya, I heard him say that someone can be forgiven if they take the mark of the beast.

[@carolynpalano9284]

@Robert Schmidt wow, that will be a real test for believers right? At that point we are supposed to choose death rather than take that mark! Knowing we will be with our king.

[@robertschmidt9296]

@@carolynpalano9284 ya. Kinda like thinking God will understand. Did He "understand" when Adam and Eve disobeyed and ate the forbidden fruit? Obviously not.

[@puritanbob]

Yeah, everyone is wrong and has been wrong for 2000 years until you guys came along and restored true Christianity. Judaizers are still around…

[@anthonycarbonaro7890]

Very excellent message..Thank You 🙏

[@robtrindade9087]

"And it shall come to pass that everyone who is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall go up from year to year to worship the King, the Lord of hosts, and to keep the Feast of Tabernacles. And it shall be that whichever of the families of the earth do not come up to Jerusalem to worship the King, the Lord of hosts, on them there will be no rain. If the family of Egypt will not come up and enter in, they shall have no rain; they shall receive the plague with which the Lord strikes the nations who do not come up to keep the Feast of Tabernacles. This shall be the punishment of Egypt and the punishment of all the nations that do not come up to keep the Feast of Tabernacles." Zechariah 14:16‭-‬19 NKJV The Law was NEVER salvific. If people in the Old Testament could have been saved by following the Law and things like animal sacrifice, they never would have needed a Savior, and Christ would be irrelevant. Therefore it is NOT an offense to the cross when it is resumed under Christ's direction during His millennial reign. There is a FOURTH temple, priests and Levites, and ANIMAL SACRIFICE continually being practiced because it was never an alternative to the work of saving grace, and Christ being the Word in the flesh literally embodies the very laws you hate.

[@stevenburton7922]

Very informative!

[@JustOneStitch]

So glad, Steven! Thank you for watching.

[@stevenburton7922]

Kathrine, also this is what the Talmud teaches about our Lord. kzbin.info/www/bejne/m3W1k35tbZiiqLM it's hard to listen to. My understanding is that less than 1 percent of our brothers and sisters in Israel believe Jesus is Messiah. I pray their eyes and ears be opened to their salvation.

[@JustOneStitch]

@@stevenburton7922 Is he part of The Talmud Unmasked? It is not in line with the true Talmud, from my understanding.

[@kimmykimko]

Its good that you came out when you did. Its one thing to be deceived by a false doctrine, its another thing to be a TEACHER of false doctrine. God spared you that greater judgment on teachers. You repented and He is faithful to forgive. May your children be set free by Christ.

[@robtrindade9087]

"And it shall come to pass that everyone who is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall go up from year to year to worship the King, the Lord of hosts, and to keep the Feast of Tabernacles. And it shall be that whichever of the families of the earth do not come up to Jerusalem to worship the King, the Lord of hosts, on them there will be no rain. If the family of Egypt will not come up and enter in, they shall have no rain; they shall receive the plague with which the Lord strikes the nations who do not come up to keep the Feast of Tabernacles. This shall be the punishment of Egypt and the punishment of all the nations that do not come up to keep the Feast of Tabernacles." Zechariah 14:16‭-‬19 NKJV The Law was NEVER salvific. If people in the Old Testament could have been saved by following the Law and things like animal sacrifice, they never would have needed a Savior, and Christ would be irrelevant. Therefore it is NOT an offense to the cross when it is resumed under Christ's direction during His millennial reign. There is a FOURTH temple, priests and Levites, and ANIMAL SACRIFICE continually being practiced because it was never an alternative to the work of saving grace, and Christ being the Word in the flesh literally embodies the very laws you hate.

[@MS-hw1vb]

Yes this is sooooooo similar to my story

[@MS-hw1vb]

I became sooooo prideful and dead in my spirit. It was so works based. When I FINALLY was awaken by the Spirit, I sobbed and just imagined myself running back into the arms of Jesus. He was right there waiting for me too. Thank you Jesus for your forgiveness from my pride and arrogance!!!

[@JustOneStitch]

Hi MS! I'm so glad that we are able to come together with similar stories for support. When I first came out of it I had no other stories to compare to or anyone who had walked what I walked for many months.

[@ephraimnatsarim]

If you're not keeping sabbath you're not going to heaven Isaiah 66:23-24 Luke 6:22-23 Why would you forsakr your blessing so ypu can break the sabbath and get you angry in god's eyes?

[@lemongate4869]

You're a Pharisee. What did Jesus call Pharisees? "Brood of vipers, hypocrites, and white washed sepulchres.". Scathing comments, dont you think.? Pious and self righteous but rotten on the inside.

[@rivetgrass]

you do not understand what "Sabbath" is!

[@listening4hisvoice]

Lets follow the logic here: What a Jewish person who keeps Sabbath, but doesn't know Yeshua? Do they goto Heaven? If not, why? If they do, why? If you say 'no' and then 'they need Yeshua' then you've just stated that your salvation lies in Yeshua + something else (in this case Sabbath, but guessing you'd lump lots of other things in there like Feasts, etc.). So, Yeshua's work on the cross, and the Scriptures saying it is placing our hope and trust in Him is not entirely accurate, because it would be Yeshua + Sabbath. And that is not biblical.

[@jenniferfanguy2812]

I left the movement during covid.

[@wesfax1]

Jesus fulfilled the law and the Holy Spirit came. The temple was destroyed 40 years after the cross The mosaic promise also transitioned for 40 years. There is no more temple except true believers. The laws get written in.our hearts.

[@chriscb]

Now that you have come out of the Hebrew Roots movement, I hope you no longer call the messiah "Yahushua" or "Yahshua". People who know how to read, write and speak Hebrew know that His name was Yeshua. It's just a shame that these HRM cultists don't even bother to learn biblical Hebrew or at the very least modern.

[@annaleedaughterofyhwh7767]

@chriscb Exactly. Yeshua יהרשע !

[@carolynpalano9284]

I don't know where you're getting the idea that people who are walking with God and are supposed to be going out and spreading the good news are isolating themselves from sinners that's not in Scripture and if those were the kind of people you were hanging out with then they were wrong Jesus sat with Sinners we are supposed to go out and spread the word to everyone especially the Sinners so stop taking what your friends did who may be wrong and misinterpreting what they're supposed to do to turning your back on the whole Bible are we not supposed to fear the lord? We had better be fearing the Lord!

[@MrTnewell]

You me need to listen to her again, you missed her point, By her following this hebrew movement she was in bondage by keeping the laws and requirements, taste not, touch not, thou shall not, ect. , and she had no freedom to go out and witness, The Holy Spirit has set her free . Praise God

[@carolynpalano9284]

@Troy Newell I understand what she means, the apostles gave up everything to go our and witness the good news.If Katherine can find the time to make videos about turning people away from the keeping the laws she has plenty of free time. This is about choosing worldly things and her inability to give up the things that God hates.

[@JustOneStitch]

By their fruit you will know them. . .this is how we are set apart, by how we love one another and gently lead one another back to Christ.

[@andrewvangils3112]

@@MrTnewell that makes no sense, because Paul and the Apostles, heck Jesus Himself kept the Law and it did not prevent them from ministering or leading others to salvation. I don’t know much about Hebrew roots, maybe they are harsh in how they try to bring people in, but if they are teaching what Jesus taught and walking how Jesus walked(following the Law), we should take the good and put away the bad.

[@carolynpalano9284]

@@andrewvangils3112 excellent discernment!!

[@JRKARavie]

I am confused. My understanding is that we are to be (set apart) as (HE is set apart). Why would scripture say not to eat pork (but now it's ok) we are told in scripture (EVERYONE) not just the Jews are to keep Sabbath. I thought The OLD Testiment was VALID for reproof (clearly not). You have invented a new religion. Not just a new Covenant. I agree we should be berians and to be careful in what we preach. But what you are saying is LAWLESSNESS. If we have no law we are lost. And I am stunned at your (no reproof if your Jewish comment) you are missing the whole point of the gospel. To admonish the lost and show them THE TRUE MESSIAH. I pray you will see your error.

[@SRose-vp6ew]

Legalism and lies against God’s heart can be found in any direction when you follow people who put rules around rules and say things God never said to you. The root cause is having a Pharisee prideful spirit that needs to be revised, repented of, and renounced. It has less to do with “what” rules around rules and more to do with the fact that you put rules around rules and miss out on the relationship God wants you to have with him through his son and spirit. We are ALL adopted children of God, if redeemed by the perfect blood of the Exodus 12 lamb Jesus (yes, Yeshua in Hebrew). I have zero ties to the Hebrew roots movement, literally zero other than helping people get out of some very strange added teachings of it that caused them harm. Yet, I read my Bible and in my Bible it said celebrate these feast and festivals as a lasting ordinance to teach to our children and we have FUN with that. They all point to Jesus and Sabbath is blessed for rest and a great day to do the work of the Lord in peace. Yet while our family Shabbat Friday evening at sunset, we understand what Jesus meant when he said “sabbath (rest day) was made for man and not man for the Sabbath.” We volunteer at church on Sundays and help family on Saturday, yet we learn from scripture and not corrupt teachers that ignore God’s heart and try to claim you can’t even pull some weeds in the sunshine while playing worship music even if that’s how you find rest. Things like Shavuot is also the day of Acts 2 and a day to focus not on cheesecake or turn into modern political debate, but actually seeking the Lord and being filled with the Holy Spirit and the truth of the basics of scripture as you study and pray over them in unity with others, although there’s nothing wrong with having cheesecake. Yes, the 10 Commandments are the milk that does still need to be had as part of early growth. The big thing is stay away from Hebrew roots teachings, because they are not the teachings of scripture, instead as you read scripture simply do as it says and you’ll be blessed if you do it in the right mindset to the glory of God and to build your relationship with him and not try to fit in or create an identity with a culture that is really a cult of idolatry against him. From what I’ve heard when people repeat Hebrew roots teaching, they knew indoctrination that required twisted scripture. When a Lutheran doesn’t know Jesus would have actually been born in the fall that’s not a sin as they take December 25 to celebrate them, yet it is a sin to try to claim the devil has more ownership over December 25 then God does and create division because of it. When would Jesus have been conceived by the Holy Spirit? What is 9 full months before what is mid to late September? The devil is not a creator, he is a counterfeit and a thief. Don’t empower him in ANY direction. If you want to know what God wants you to avoid pray this prayer. God search my heart, revealed to me what I should give over to you. God forgive me for going to false teachers when Scripture says that if we are your sheep we hear your voice through Jesus your son. Help us to always check what we hear, be at from The spiritual or earthly realm to scripture. Help us not to fall into traps in any direction, Jesus light the way.

[@John3.36]

Good work, however I would say to beware of Calvinism, which is another crutch. It is an easy transition from law-keeping to covenant theology since it allows for the law in its system.

[@JustOneStitch]

Hi J 336! Thank you for sharing a concern. Its so important to both taken concerns of others in Christ to prayer and to warn if we feel someone is heading a certain direction.

[@dustinneely]

Christianity didn't begin in 1517 AD. If Protestantism had the "goods" Protestants wouldn't constantly feel like something is missing. I've been there. Blessings in Christ. ☦️

[@professor.bubbles.mcfancy]

I appreciate you sharing your experience. However, i also thonk this is funny. Im not going get into the commentary; just the Lord requires obedience. Increase

[@DF111-j1m]

Frank Turek is a real good apologetics.

[@ryuhayabusa5222]

we stick to his Word we have the Holy Spirit with discernment and r warned false teachings n false prophets in the end and that is warned over n over again we need to be diligent every lesson learned God has a reason for good video

[@annaleedaughterofyhwh7767]

Aleph Yohanan 2:19 💔

[@theTRUTHgroup]

Well that was disappointing. I was looking forward to hearing about your journey and how it lead you here. Instead, you just spend over 17 minutes describing a lot of "Hebrew Roots" things. Yet you never delved into the Bible to talk about why any of those things are wrong.

[@broderen6234]

You have struggeld with self righousness and roots of judaism. Thats different than hebrew roots😎 sabbath is a part of god and is the 7 day

[@eltonron1558]

BIG PROBLEM. Hebrew, gentile, geek, means nothing from the moment Jesus said, "man". Man shall live by every word. The Sabbath was made for man. Under grace? Even graceful liars are eligible for salvation. 1John 2:3-4.

[@LaurieWinkles-m6q]

no one can understaand if they cannot hear you

[@FabienneSP]

I think Hebrew roots is nessesary but also bears an enormous danger of becoming legalistic and looking view of the salvation through Jesus. I do not agree on all that he says, but I like unlearn yt channel. He teaches mainly Hebrew roots but also clearly says it is not wrong to call Jesus Jesus, since that is the English version of his name, he just preferst to say Yeshua. There is a difference between celebrating Easter as in worshipping the Goddess it is named after or celebrating the resaurection and calling it Easter, because it happens to fall in the same time frame.

[@Skip-7374]

Legalism is what kills Hebrew Roots. And a few of the things you talk about are the most heated topics. Its about taking the entire bible as a whole.

[@Paul-g4e5i]

I am also coming out of my HR fellowship, because I don't agree keeping the law is a salvation issue. However there is no longer any Jew/Gentile division: There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus Galatians 3:28

[@sourmilkministries9445]

Paul, of course it's a "salvation issue". And, the Scriptures even say as much! 1 John 2:3-4 NKJV Now by this we know that we know Him, if we keep His commandments. (4) He who says, "I know Him," and does not keep His commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.

[@Paul-g4e5i]

@sourmilkministries9445 what about the thief on the cross? He did not keep His commandments yet he was saved.

[@sourmilkministries9445]

@@Paul-g4e5i You misunderstood my comment. Keeping the Law is a "salvation issue" in that if a person claims to be saved, but they walk in darkness, then they are not saved. I am not saying that keeping the Law saves you. I am saying that if you are saved, you will keep the Law. I am saved 100% by my faith in Yeshua. And, I demonstrate that salvation by my obedience to the Law.