Emotional Dumping: What It Is And How To Stop

[@appletree6898]

Great distinction. There is one little piece of nuance in this that I would like to mention. Sometimes, if people grow up in abusive environments that are always rationalized away, there is a period in their development when they need feedback and validation that the treatment they experienced then --and similar treatment they may still be allowing to continue in other relationships now--is harmful, not okay, and something they shouldn't be expected to endure. Seeing other people get mad on their behalf shows them, for the first time in their lives, that it is safe and valid for them to have boundaries and standards and to protect themselves. It's a stage of development where people need support, modeling, and guidance, and although not everyone is going to want to sign up to provide that (a therapist is most qualified), it can't be skipped. Then, over time, as you said, we need to develop the capacity to make sense of our own experience and set boundaries for ourselves.

[@trudibarraclough478]

Yes, you are right, this is why I do it. Now I have tools to use. I am a work in progress

[@ReindeertheGermanShepherdDog]

"if people grow up in abusive environments that are always rationalized away, there is a period in their development when they need feedback and validation that the treatment they experienced then --and similar treatment they may still be allowing to continue in other relationships now--is harmful, not okay, and something they shouldn't be expected to endure. Seeing other people get mad on their behalf shows them, for the first time in their lives, that it is safe and valid for them to have boundaries and standards and to protect themselves. It's a stage of development where people need support, modeling, and guidance" ----I can't articulate how helpful this was to read. THIS explains things for me. Thank you!

[@appletree6898]

@@ReindeertheGermanShepherdDog I'm so glad it was helpful!! ☺️

[@happylindsay4475]

This is so well said. Thank you.

[@jepope1543]

Thank you for adding this - this is a very important point and something a lot of therapists miss. They want clients to go straight to 'healed behaviours' without understanding there's a transitional stage that the therapist needs to facilitate.

[@allisonlargo7605]

If you need to emotionally dump, do it in a journal, and emotionally share with actually people. I love it!

[@manicpixiedreamgirl7930]

The need for emotional dumping requires a reaction from a sympathetic person. Just writing it in a journal would leave me feeling empty.

[@travay6328]

@@manicpixiedreamgirl7930 do people try to avoid you? Just asking?

[@annabanzon313]

I would say don't share. People never like to listen to me yet I'm expected to listen to all their drama. I have just accepted this reality. Yeah it sucks!

[@lowwastehighmelanin]

Yup. I use an app actually, Thought Detox, and those dumps just go into a void. It's really satisfying

[@monikaseidenberg5403]

For me, there is also this kind of emotional dumping, when a person just complains about something or someone again and again and after some time you realize, that she uses this complaining as a way to find relief and does not change anything about her behavior nor tries to talk to the person who was actually involved with the problematic topic. This person does not want to find a solution only pitty and confirmation for her/his victimhood and powerlessness. This person does not want to recognize his/hers response ability in the whole problematic topic.

[@kaia8167]

This is FASCINATING. I made a personal 'rule' a few years ago that I wouldn't let people emotionally dump on me, but I had no idea what it was and I thought it was just a way that I, personally, am not able to support people. What kept happening - I realize now - is people would tell me this one-sided story, just like you said, and then expect me to go "that b*tch!" or some variation of that. Instead, I would inquire about what the possible motives might have been for this other person's behaviour, and wonder if maybe the person telling the story was making faulty assumptions. Basically, I would try to get the full, balanced story, leaving my friend feeling as though I'm defending some stranger instead of supporting my friend. Eventually I started cutting people off when they emotionally dump on me, and telling them that I can't give them the response they're looking for, but if they want to tell me how they FEEL about what's going on, I'll listen to that. Never had anyone take me up on that offer, and it still leaves people feeling like I'm not supporting them, but I've found they accept that boundary and move on pretty quickly. Watching this video, I'm realizing that when people do this, I feel manipulated. And apparently that's for good reason! But I'm EXCEPTIONALLY sensitive to even the slightest whiff of manipulation and I react really negatively to it. So it's no wonder I don't like it when people emotionally dump on me like this. Moving forward, though, I think this video has given me some tools to better navigate these scenarios and maybe communicate with my friends better about what I can and can't provide for them. I guess it's not some failing in me after all, but an intolerance of someone else's unhealthy behaviour. That's a pretty incredible realization. Thank you for explaining this so clearly.

[@AngieJurgensen]

I feel this exact same way about a situation with a trauma dumping friend. Thank you so much for your comment and for helping me realize it wasn’t some fault in me that was making me feel uncomfortable supporting this person!

[@shelleybarva3505]

Good boundaries👍

[@themaggattack]

"Don't share details, share your feelings." You are speaking pure wisdom. THANK YOU SO MUCH for breaking it down like this! Sorry this is so long, but I hope it will add something helpful for someone. I wouldn't have been ready for this a couple years ago. I had a lot of detailing to do. I was that one year old looking to my parent (aka: my partner, my friends and my counselor) for confirmation on my own feelings. I was just that lost. There's no getting around that stage in the process. I wish there was, because I lost my partner due to all the trauma dumping I did. Constantly bombarding him with details of how my mom was emotionally damaging me and constantly looking to him to tell me how to feel about it and what to do about it. Then spiraling into hypervigilant anxiety leading to depressive crashes when he wouldn't or couldn't mirror my emotions. It was exhausting to both of us. All this constant "my mom did this" and "my mom said that." I was using him as a sounding board and a shield. I needed to draw out HIS feelings about MY mother issues in order to get the nerve to set boundaries with my mother, because I was so afraid that MY feelings were invalid. I was afraid to share my own feelings without all kinds of back-up validation from him. I was afraid of harsh criticism, judgment, rejection, and being ignored, gaslit, smeared, and manipulated- having my own emotions used against me, like I'd experienced so much in the past. As a result, being vulnerable was just something I could not do properly. I thought trauma dumping was the same thing as being vulnerable. Now I see it wasn't. If it was just pure vulnerability I don't think it would have pushed him away. There is a lot of projection that goes on in trauma dumping. That's no fun for the person taking the brunt of it. I regret putting him through that but I can't change the past. I can only be grateful to him for trying to endure my trauma dumping for as long as he could. I've done a lot of counseling and DBT over the past few years. I think I'm finally getting to the point where I can listen to and trust my own feelings and intuition. And share appropriately. Or at least catch myself if I'm slipping and stop trauma dumping. I'm more aware now and more mindful about it. I think at first it's nescessary to give details if you have been so gaslit that you don't know which end is up. Ideally a counselor would be best to share the details with, but unfortunately counseling isn't always accessible. In any case, detail sharing is a nescessary phase, but the ultimate goal is to get past that phase. "Don't share details, share your feelings" is a perfect rule to remember, for me at this stage. There does come a time when we need to stop focusing so much on the details of other people's offenses and allow ourselves to explore and honor how we feel about it. Also just how we feel about regular things in daily life. I use to walk through life as if I was pleading my case and collecting evidence to defend myself at all times. But I don't need to document everything anymore. When it comes to how something or someone is affecting me, *how I feel and what I think matters.* What a revolutionary concept to someone whose feelings have been systematically belittled and invalidated. I don't need to keep receipts on everything to prove anything to anyone. I know what I know, I feel what I feel, and that's basically good enough for me. I think this actualization is what my counselor has been patiently trying to draw out of me this whole time. (The old classic: "How does that make you feel?" 😂) It's such a process to get there! But so worth it!!

[@AB-ph7im]

Thank you for this. It was immensely helpful. 💛

[@domoxd3020]

I admire your honesty and the clarity you have about yourself - you probably worked very diligently to be able to develop that clarity 👏 nice!

[@shulamay]

Now think of what it means for people who were emotionally neglected in childhood and couldn't learn to do this ego function themselves. It's building this skill from scratch.

[@_Colie]

That's me. I screwed up a good relationship projecting expectations and negative judgement on a guy because of past experiences. Told him he don't care about me. Unfortunately he did and he still walked away. It made me feel like a POS when I realized what was happening. I'm in the process now after trying to get him back to let him go and still have the motivation to try to continue the lesson. I never understood why people reacted how they did to me, thought I had it all figured out. Nope.

[@ashkes.266]

This is SO enlightening, and an absolute minefield of a concept when as a child and young adult you weren't taught or allowed to have any emotional reaction to anything at all. It's confusing and difficult for me to learn how to process my feelings without using other people as a mirror, and I've definitely done my fair share of dumping without realising any of this. In fact I felt more like I'd make people uncomfortable by expressing my internal experience or getting visibly emotional. I'm working on it, and videos like this really help!

[@nosiphodywili35]

I relate to this. 😢

[@camwilliams1]

I am reminded of something I learned years ago! Ask permission to throw up, you just want to throw up everything that had just happened to and with you! Claim it as throwing up, ask your friend if they can emotionally move out of the way of your barfing the story. Ask if they can nod or listen and what they can CHOOSE to do with their time? Ask permission, give the listener a minute to check in with themselves, and decide if it's a good time or not. Stops holding a hostage on both parts. Allows your throwing-up person to bring into awareness they are throwing up and you are a listener for a minute to be by someone's side and basically hold their hair out of the way.

[@LavenderHazelwood]

Yes!!! It is a feeling of being held hostage when someone just starts barfing w/o checking in first. I'm really appreciative if someone has the wherewithal to know what they are doing and own it and be able to manage themselves around it instead of using me as their trashcan or toilet or parent. It's a position I really hate being in.

[@uMaud]

It never even crossed my mind that people should ask you before throwing everything in your face. As I've heard, it supposedly makes you a terrible friend to refuse to listen if they come to you. 🤷

[@LavenderHazelwood]

@@uMaud Yes, I think many people assume that but I think that comes from an enmeshment or co-dependent perspective. Boundaries are important and being able to say "I'm uncomfortable" (no matter the reason) is important. If that breaks the friendship then maybe it just wasn't a good fit in the first place.

[@juliep1122]

I have learned that for someone who’s in chronic victim mode, no amount of empathizing, supporting (emotionally or physically), talking, affirming, etc is going to help that person. If you have to recover from being around a certain person, choose yourself and set boundaries.

[@susannamiscera2401]

100%

[@cheesecake4you]

I 💯 agree 👍. I had to distance myself from a long term friendship. She would call me 10 minutes just before my work started with all sorts of problems. It was her husband, her kids her work colleagues every ones fault. No matter how much I tried to help she did not want to know. I stopped picking up the phone in the week mornings. I got to the point where she had a very negative impact on my life I felt terrible already on a Monday morning. I actually felt stressed when getting calls 🤙 from her.

[@freshdumpling]

​@@cheesecake4youI had people like that in my life. Had this guy, each time we talk on a call it's him emotionally dumping not to find solutions but to just talk about his problems. He just likes talking about it. I had to put a stop to it. I'm not his therapist and even therapists have their limits.

[@daniellewalker256]

This has basically ruined my closest friendship, along with a lot of other unhealthy things going on within that dynamic. It’s sad to lose someone so close but like, I actually feel a lot better now that we’re no longer talking. That relationship was literally taking up every single bit of mental and emotional energy I had. We were on the phone CONSTANTLY and she had an anxious attachment style that I was trying to accommodate so I ended up having no social life at all bc I was always on the phone with her and it was just a never ending cycle of back and forth emotional dumping. Very exhausting.

[@mushymass9716]

A year or two ago, I also lost a close friendship because the dynamic within the relationship was incredibly unhealthy. I'm still stuck on it and I'm trying to figure out how to move on. It hurts to have to walk away from a relationship when you still have a lot of care for the other person. Friendship breakups deserve way more attention from the world at large, because they're really hard.

[@Jillshinn]

Oh my goodness! This is pure gold. I hate to admit it, but I’m a therapist who didn’t previously understand this distinction! Huge game changer! (What I love most about psychology is that no matter how much we learn, experience, and know, there’s always a ton more to learn, experience, and know. Thanks, Heidi. You’re my new “go to” source of wisdom.

[@haze7972]

I needed this. I’ve been caught between understanding that I don’t feel good when I emotionally dump (I don’t usually feel that validation I’m craving and I feel bad for the friend I’m dumping on) and desperately still wanting vulnerability and authenticity in friendships. I get it now - I’m the problem, it’s me. I don’t share how I feel a lot of the times, I’m looking for my best friend to mirror the anger, hurt, pain, or (insert emotion) but I’m not actually processing the emotion WITH someone, I’m just dumping on them. I will be vigilant about this starting today! I’m hopeful this will actually allow me to have more openness/vulnerability with my friends!

[@au8438]

In my experience, when someone emotionally dumps on me, Im more stressed and leave the conversation more exhausted, because I felt like there was less I could do, the the problem was greater than what I could handle. If the person shared their emotional experience, I was able to help the singular person in front of me, I felt more helpful and less stressed about my ability to provide to someone I care about.

[@LavenderHazelwood]

Bingo.

[@MizzCupcake244]

Sometimes people don't want you to fix the situation, they just want someone to listen...

[@LavenderHazelwood]

@@MizzCupcake244 Sometimes that's still too much.

[@MizzCupcake244]

@@LavenderHazelwood if you don't have the capacity, then just say that, and move on. Simple.

[@LavenderHazelwood]

@@MizzCupcake244 I do :)

[@melaniedoyle2968]

I think part of the problem is when people assume that you are closer to them than you really are. I think friends should share & support each other, but I've had people, including my mother, confide in me and expect the kind of support that you would expect from a spouse. Also, this includes the over sharing with acquaintances problem. Overall, it's a fine line of what is being supportive vs. what is being a dumping ground. It can be very difficult to know the difference for both people, and the problem is that if there are no boundaries at the beginning, then it's assumed that it's part of the friendship to play therapist. But again, I think for both people, how do you know what is healthy sharing & support vs what is a kind of codependency

[@yiravarga]

This is the emotional education society and schools need. Amazing, concrete, applicable to life, content right here!

[@mumoffour6860]

I’m 36 years old and just started watching your videos a few days ago: I feel like finally my life makes sense. From anxious attachment to toxic shame to trauma dumping, you have described my constant day to day emotional state and given me a new perspective and tools to deal with it! Thank you form the bottom of my heart.

[@ArtyAntics]

This is fascinating, I was aware of emotional dumping from group dynamic perspective as you shared and I have left groups for this reason. But I had not noticed the pattern about using facts. I was chatting in a group once and someone became very triggered by a psychologist I found helpful. They started throwing facts at me and would not let it go for almost an hour. They never said their opinion about why they didn’t like the psychologist, just lots of ‘facts’ written by other people. I informed them that I would not judge someone based on another person’s opinion of them, that is like gossip. If they could explain why they didn’t like the person I was happy to listen in an effort to understand them better. But I wasn’t going to engage in a conversation where they just wanted to manipulate my opinions to validate their world view. I was happy to agree to disagree. Well they totally lost it, and today I understand why it was so intense of a reaction. It must be terrifying to live in a world where you constantly need to have someone else validate that you are ok and tell you how you feel.

[@joanfolds476]

This information is so amazing. I have probably "emotionally dumped" more often than not. I suffer from Alexithymia. During my developmental years, I was forced to shut down my feelings because my BPD mother didn't want to deal with them. So, whenever I looked at her for feedback, she would always tell me something negative. At some point, I began to protect myself from her neuroticism. She was also an emotional dumper. At 34 I moved out on my own. Now at 67, I wish I had known then what I know now. However, it's better late than never.

[@jjohnston5406]

This is incredibly helpful and eye opening. I realize that I have been guilty of dumping. However, much of this has been due to being unsure whether my perception and interpretation of a situation is accurate. I know how I feel about it, but am I being unreasonable for setting these boundaries? When you have been systematically isolated and gaslighted for your entire childhood and most of your adult life, how do you know if your expectations are reasonable, or if you are being the asshole? These are probably questions for therapists rather than friends.

[@nickandrews2255]

Indeed. A therapist is a good idea. Just saw mine today

[@bumbro07]

Good therapists are not really supposed to tell you how you're supposed to feel about things. I think in these cases, good friends are a godsend because they will stand up for you in a way that a therapist can't. Keep in mind that your friends are not objective, but they can be really helpful.

[@er6730]

I think that's different from emotional dumping, because you're trying to figure out what is going on. "So, when I said this, he told me that I was being emotionally manipulative. He says I do that a lot. But I don't think I manipulate people. On the other hand, I do try to read the room, and if he's in a bad mood, I don't ask him to do things, but if he's in a good mood, I ask. Is that being manipulative? I can kind of see it like that. I am actually pretty good at influencing people, and I make them feel better and I can get a bunch of people to get along. I always thought that was a good thing, but maybe I'm not doing it for their benefit, but more because I don't like conflict and I prefer it when people get along. It is easier to be playful and get kids to brush teeth and do other things like that, but maybe I should be letting them develop self discipline and do things that aren't fun without trying to make them fun. Maybe I'm doing the kids a disservice, all because I want a pleasant evening now. On the other hand, he thinks that crying is an attempt at manipulation, even if I go to another room. But even though I'm not really an easy cryer, sometimes I can't help it. It doesn't seem fair to ban a whole natural bodily function like that. But I can see what he means, of course he wants me to feel better and that could put unfair pressure on him. What do you think? Have you noticed that I'm manipulative? Please be honest." It's not trying to get a certain reaction, you're asking for help trying to figure reality out.

[@ashleycnossen3157]

@@er6730 I think this is still emotional dumping, because as I read this, it seems like you're trying to get me to validate that you're not manipulative... Which actually sounds kind of manipulative and if you're with the wrong friend, they might actually decide that you are and end up wrecking you.

[@er6730]

@@ashleycnossen3157 I disagree. If the person is open to feedback, whatever the friend says in response will be welcomed. Of course the person hopes that the friend will say "no I've never thought that" but if the friend says "well, I have noticed a couple of times" then at least that's feedback. And yes, hopefully it's a trustworthy friend who will be both honest and kind. If it were an acquaintance, yes that seems like emotional dumping and asking for a certain answer. A true friend tells it like it is, and even if it hurts, the healing power of "yes, I've noticed your flaws, and I still like and accept you" makes unwelcome truth go down easier.

[@JoseEduardo1594-]

Rumination is something I’ve struggled with. Until i started journaling more, it’s so tempting to just try to “solve” a deep problem right away, but that never works, feelings can’t be fixed but processed, though venting is ok if it’s timed. Sometimes I’ll give myself 30 mins feel a process feelings an air talk my feelings if I need to and be pissy if needed 😊

[@DaeSayuki]

I thought the title said “emotional dumpling”! Thought it was cute and I wanted to be one! 😂

[@ChaiTogether]

Made me smile 😊

[@SveGuacamole]

Hello from a dumpling country Poland. Dumplings make me emotional, especially ones stuffed with cotrahe cheese and potato 😁😉😄

[@amanitamuscaria7500]

That is so funny

[@amanitamuscaria7500]

​@SveGuacamole, omg is there such a thing???? I want some!

[@haidarshehade241]

That made burst out 🤣 thank you for the laugh

[@ChaiTogether]

Yes, I have a friend who does this and I was thinking of letting them know to leave out the details and collapse the conversation to the resolution part 😊❤🎉 Cheers x

[@thatoneisfj2810]

Heidi this is a godsend. I’ve been doing this for years and could never understand why I felt so bad afterward or what I was doing wrong, and this has helped me figure out soooo much. Thank you!!

[@DUNELANDER]

PERFECT!!! I wish this podcast came along when I was attempting to manage a very large support group for estranged parents of adult children. A sizable percentage of the members used the group strictly as an emotional dumping ground. This seems to be the norm among the numerous estranged parents groups on FB, except for the one we’ve managed to create. Your podcasts have been a welcome asset to our members’ self-awareness, growth, healing, and self-worth. Thank you on behalf of the 80 moms from our group.

[@aylahughes9185]

a bunch of estranged parents are covert or some other form of narcissism, of course they just show up to dump, they dont feel any accountability for how the child became estranged, they feel they are owed the world when in fact it is the complete opposite. i dont even understand why a narc parent would even be allowed at a support group, they are literally just doing it for attention.....

[@transitionsnc]

I've found this with FB support groups in general. It just seems to me people write long paragraphs about themselves and expect you to agree with them, that they've been wronged, the person that they're writing about is the bad person, etc. I've exited most of these groups for this exact reason. It's not helpful to be in groups where people just emotionally dump.

[@KristianBssb]

This one really resonated with me! I've noticed recently when I'm talking about relationships or interpersonal issues, staying too in the details of what happened and not focusing my experience doesn't feel right. Like it doesn't feel like healing. Having this mirrored with the baby falling over had me laughing out loud and feeling very childish. I'm so happy to have the language around that feeling, and I hope to notice when I'm dumping instead of sharing going forward 😁

[@Lydia-hi6mx]

I had the same thought! I started noticing this when I began therapy. I would find myself getting into the nitty gritty details of a situation and I realized that I was wasting time on the he said / she said” of it all! I think being in a formal setting where I’m paying to get healing helped me identify that I don’t really want to spend an hour detailing every think my husband said that pissed me off, and it wouldn’t help me heal. I still need to work on this in my personal relationships.

[@arserobinson7118]

If anyone's doing this to you, don't let them guilt you into putting up with it. break contact with them and if they ask why, tell them it's because they are selfish with no regard for your own feelings.

[@marilynwarbis7224]

This is such a useful video for me. As a natural listener I realise I'm dumped on a great deal. This video explains why I'm left feeling manipulated after being dumped on - it's because I'm told only one side of a story but can't get a word in to ask questions to clarify things. I realise that the person dumping is not doing their own homework to contact their inner source, or to understand their own feelings about their situation. Were they to do that, they could then take the responsibility to decide how to go forward. I must now work out how to handle such situations!

[@emiliarose1460]

I didn’t even realize I did this! Thank you so much! Now I can try communicate better

[@IAmEmmaElaine]

This entire video was a slap with a glove, but I needed it. Thank you

[@VictorCardosoMoraes]

I love your work, but honestly I believe this misses the mark a bit. I believe this overlooks the experience of people that are in abusive relationships and are on the receiving end of gaslighting, something that can be extremely confusing and numbing. I agree it’s not as productive as sharing once you have enough emotional awareness, but we’re not born ready. there’s nothing wrong with sharing what you’re going through objectively in order to receive validation that it is ok to be upset about certain scenarios. I personally spent a couple years numb due to fear of losing an abusive partner. I didn’t share much of my experience with anyone at all, until in a one off therapy session, the therapist encouraged me to share with friends and family so I would get support and become less isolated by the abuse. Remember gaslighting aims to make people doubt their own emotions, so it’s a natural thing to disregard or not trust your own gut in these relationships. It was my “dumping” and my friends and family’s feedback that woke me up and slowly built in me the courage to stand up for myself. I personally don’t like labelling this as something negative. As I dealt with the conflict head on and walked away, I began the process of working on myself (which is actually how I discovered your channel) and realised I needed to “dump” each day a little less as my ego grew stronger once away from the abuse. Again: there’s nothing wrong with needing validation to wake up from a numb emotional state. I’m very grateful for the patience of my friends who heard me out until I was ready to be strong enough for myself. Validation from loved ones is exactly what I needed to break away from the abuse cycle.

[@heidipriebe1]

I agree that there’s an exception to every rule and I’m certainly not insinuating here that the opposite of emotional dumping is keeping everything inside and saying nothing even when in a dire situation - just that if you consciously struggle with doing too much emotional dumping and notice yourself getting stuck in rumination loops, getting more centred in your emotional experience is often what breaks those loops.

[@VictorCardosoMoraes]

@@heidipriebe1 thanks for the reply. :) I see your point, it’s valid and I certainly got value from the video. My suggestion is that we’re careful to place the focus on not repeating a pattern that is not serving us and/or is not productive anymore while not labelling the need for external validation as wholly negative. Depending on external validation indefinitely is of course not sustainable. But wanted to share that at times a little validation can help people get unstuck. :) Great fan of your work btw, thanks for all you do.

[@heidipriebe1]

​@@VictorCardosoMoraes I think we're in alignment there. External feedback can be a valuable thing and I imagine the points of view we were respectively expressing (me in the video, you in your original comment) were representative of two different extremes (relying only on external feedback vs not sourcing feedback at all), with the healthy medium lying in the middle.

[@annaotherdimension4900]

Yes....the feedback I got while in an abusive relationship clarified the abnormal gaslighting and control I was experiencing. It was extremely valuable in helping me to break free. After seeing this video, I realize now that I haven't stopped dumping! Time for more healthy sharing...

[@lisbethbird8268]

I love your comment. It helps to look at both sides, especially after abuse, exploitation, and/or gaslighting.

[@elyaequestus1409]

Oh boi, this was a wild one. My old therapist was someone who was convinced that I had all the tools available to process my issues. The classic CBT approach. This led to me, an autistic, depressed, anxious 14 year old to express my feelings and it was like this well of pain that just did not dry. In hindsight: I was emotionally dumping for about 14 years. When I was 28 I realized I wasnt making progress, I was just feeling like an volitile deregulated drama queen. At the new practice, focused on autism, I was inmediately diagnosed with PTSD and received group therapy, CBT-like therapy, somatic therapy and I started doing yin yoga. The question of the day was: how am I _feeling_? And I notice that when talking to my parents, their first response also becomes *my* first response. When they reject my actions, I feel like a failure. While, if I look at it closer and think: was their first response justified or when I start to engage in conversation, the tone often mellows and it turns out it wasnt so bad. It is just that my parents respond pretty fucking terrible to unexpected things that dont have an inmediate sollution.

[@lbg5073]

Interesting, my best wishes to you in your life journey mate

[@elyaequestus1409]

@@lbg5073 Thanks, the last year has been wild in that regard. I started with emotional processing and I discovered that I am only now learning on how I relate (and thus feel) towards situations, poetry, stories, etc. I have been practicing that for the last month or so and it helps so much with navigating situations. I still stand with the first responses of my parents though, I mostly relate to the situation with a mix of grief and compassion. It isnt anyone's fault per se, yet it requires a lot of strength to play my hand to the best of my ability. It helps that I no longer feel like it is my job to change others. It is my job to advocate for myself, with compassion, and bring compassion towards others. That makes things easier.

[@coreylawson1103]

in my experiences with my parents, they had their stories about me that they wanted me to play out. there were a couple of distinct moments where I pointed out I was not trying to play that particular role in that story. it was awkward. it involved me leaving early. but it helped to break that cycle for both of us. ymmv

[@karoszaska]

This is a really amazing explaination. I feel like I understood this intuitively, but I could never articulate it. In regards of whether it's mean to emotional dump...I have dumped so many friends because all our hangouts became their emotional dumps. It is mean. Someone wants to spend time with you, be supportive, but you just use them as a metaphorical kleenex. It turns friendship into negativity and work.

[@karoszaska]

@Ladybug Slowly disengage with them, like actually stop replying or giving them short responses, ask them what *ACTION* they're doing about their problem, start saying no to getting together. Eventually the person fades away or sometimes unfortunately you have to have an assertive confrontation and tell them what they're doing. Most people like that faded off, but some people I had to tell off and block because I hinted, I asked for change, and nothing came of it.

[@freshdumpling]

Haha love that term metaphorical kleenex

[@Nilamoire]

I not only really appreciate this distinction, I love your presentation of this concept, not condescending at all just very relatable!

[@jenniferpoitier]

Your content is so helpful. I’ve only been listening about two weeks and I already feel catapulted forward in my personal relationships. It’s been transformative. I know that I have a tendency in my past to be an emotional dumper. I’ve been working on that and now I know this when other people are doing it to me it does not feel good. Thank you for thepractical advice regarding how to redirect others. Your channel is awesome.

[@daniellemcneill593]

Finding your videos has really opened me up and made me realize I emotionally dump. It’s a constant cycle of frustrating for me and overwhelming for my partner. Thank you for sharing

[@nyc5396]

Such an important episode to learn the distinction between emotional dumping and emotional sharing. Even journaling can feel unproductive if you never get to the core of your own behavior. I love that you bring it back to one's childhood so we have a self compassionate perspective as we heal and modify our behavior, all of which serve to enrich the experience of living through healthier connectivity with self and others. I also appreciate that you share insight into your own personal experience with emotional drama. We are lucky that you now channel your passion into this platform! Thank you!

[@parsonyoung603]

Hi Heidi, I just want to say I was going through a massively difficult time and your channel has helped me figure out a huge portion what I need to work on myself. Your explanations are making transformational impacts on how I approach healing. Thank you so much for your good work and please keep it up!

[@inkblot101]

Hey there all! I think that early recovery is about the details of what happened which will inevitably be focussed on the a real and perceived abusive behaviour of others. It's important to vent... Say the things you may have never been able to say out loud and piece it togther to help make sense of it. The trick is to not get perpetually stuck in this vital first phase! The healing for me has well and truly taken off when i started to focus on my reactions to all situations that trigger/activate me and own my role (even when i feel like a victim) "We learn to keep the focus on ourselves in the here and now" from The Solution in ACoA. But there is inevitably a backstory to each reaction which involves other people both current and historical. It has taken me years to progress in my recovery and a lot of recognising and moving away from blame which is a trait I learned from my parents. Good luck with your recovery all of you!

[@sparkstudies1675]

I think the first time I watched this video, I misunderstood the point of it. If the problem is always outside of us, the solution is always outside of us and it leaves us in a helpless state and doomed to the same cycle like you said. No room for vulnerability, growth or change. At first I thought that you were saying we need to take responsibility for the external circumstances that may have brought about a certain feeling in us, but it's not that. In order to maintain the control we do have in the situation, it is literally important to acknowledge how we are feeling (which is non negotiable) as the very reason we can and should do something about it, and this gives us options, helps us get to a better place and allows us to grow into healthier versions of ourselves regardless of whatever action we eventually decide to take. Aside from that are the obvious benefits of taking back our ego function, too. I think I get it now. This can actually be a wonderful opportunity to build trust with ourselves by resuming responsibility of the ego function as opposed to the way I was initially thinking of it which might leave me to wonder if perhaps I am overreacting about a particular situation. Thank you for making this! Very insightful.

[@smustipher]

I have been working on learning notnto dump on people. The past few weeks have been especially challenging as I recently lost a mentor figire and have been rather distraught about it at times. Thankfully I have a good therapist, and will explore the points raised in this video with them so that I can focus on healing and avoid overburdening my friends.

[@thinkfirst1989]

So I think I do emotionally dump. But the way you are defining it- that dumping versus sharing has to do with whether or not you share your feelings about things, I'm not sure. I go through periods where I either feel pressing needs to reach out and talk to someone about the intense situation I'm going through because I feel like I need help processing what I'm feeling and what to do about it, and other periods where I feel like no one wants to hear about my problems, they feel overwhelming and I can never resolve them so I just try not to feel anything or talk to anyone about what I'm going through.

[@StellaM22]

Same. Also its proven that talking things through helps you process and in the first 48 hours if a friend can help you and support you… that its act’s helpful.

[@riasparkles]

I love how you articulate these important themes of life succinctly and simply.

[@pataki-p3735]

Finally, now I understand my tiredness around my mom. She got abused in the childhood really bad and when she had me, born-to-be-listener who does not show any judgig, she usually dump a lot of her emotion onto me since I was grade 6 lol. I have learnt many things around emotion and pshychology and used those thing to give some answer to my mom like, my dad is gaslighter, she is struggle from abusive relationship, my brother act like that because truama that she gave him in childhood. However, what she all got is just confusion and continue display rage at my dad since I does not display any thing much to validate her. This thing made me really tired and escape from the house to take a break from mentally ill family (including myself I guess). Maybe when I back home next time I should try this to help mom find her true emotion under her anger.

[@ZestyBarnacle69]

I’m noticing I’ve done both of these, sometimes in the same conversation. For example, I’ve emotionally dumped, to get the response I was looking for, but then felt bad and backtracked, to give a more nuanced perspective and explain my wrongs in the situation. By the time I backtrack though, it’s too late, the person I’m talking too made up their mind, because I started with emotional dumping, and now they think I’m “victim blaming” myself when I try to add my own contribution to the madness.

[@richteffekt]

This comment section has it figured out: this is a very insightful video and all of the info is super helpful. I myself have often sat on the fence bc. I was really hungry for the validation but never felt like pushing someone I loved under the bus. Yet, I feel like I used my storytelling skills so that instead of giving a straight condemning report on someone I made it so that the listener would figure it out. So if they disapproved of "4" I would give them "he/she did 2+2" so they could come around and tell me how I was wronged (which I kind of had been there for to begin with). As a boy I was brought up internalizing all, save for the very worst things, not to be valid in emotional form, that, "What do you mean, you feel this way about something?! That is bullsh*t. Just carry on." It were pretty difficult times for my single caregiver mostly, so I understood that these things need special, clever attention and roundabout ways to made work. Needless to say it never did work and I ended up with neither the validation nor the supportive outcome and only learned frustration and isolation. Which is how I feel about this (not just the facts, 😅, look at me at it again). So: listen to the clever lady from the video and don't be telling people how they should feel about something; tell them what you are feeling instead - that is good advice.

[@Dragonfly-vo3jd]

Gold as always. Interesting that I could feel when I was dumping but couldn't articulate how to change to a more helpful style of sharing. I guess we keep doing what we've learned until we know better. Thank you, Heidi

[@lavendertownvip1908]

This is a great concept and well layed out. I'm sure I do this sometimes and it's a great thing to think about. I had a good friend that only called me to do this. I didn't understand why it was exhausting and off putting for me. I didnt know how to set a boundary to ask her to stop. I ended up stepping away from the friendship and the balance of my moods has gotten so much better. I also think I emotionally dump less now. I've started to become more self reliant when handling my strong emotions. I try to process them myself and once the strong feelings die off I usually don't end up feeling like I need to talk to anyone after. Or if I do it's coming from a way different place than if I call someone super upset.

[@lilyneva]

Thank you very much for clarifying this nuance. I felt confused before reading your comment because I feel like I have gone through a period of asking for this kind of validation, and this video made me think I had been doing something wrong. Even though the validation I have received has come from different people, all those separate instances with someone who felt attuned and could play the role of an emphatic witness seem to have helped me. I still may have times when I feel like I must talk to someone, but it is less frequent. And when I do feel that need, it is not, like before, because some mountain of pain inside me seems about to explode. Instead, it is more calm and the conversations are more like conversations rather than me talking non-stop and avoiding eye contact. I just wanted to share that for anyone who maybe would like to be in therapy but for whatever reason can’t access it or who hasn’t found a therapist they like yet. Sometimes you can get better by finding opportunities to be attuned to even though it may happen in a way that isn’t continuous. These moments are more important than I can say. Sometimes I've talked to people in the church, or to someone else who didn’t have training (as a mental health professional or in trauma) but who felt safe to me.

[@moirahyde750]

This was really helpful. I have definitely done the dumping myself and been dumped on !! This has really helped me clarify why this isn’t helpful. Thanks 🙏

[@bobbafett3050]

I've been watching your videos and this one as well as the one on limerence really hit home. Dealing with topics i've been struggling with in my own life. Thank you. You have a beautiful mind and it's a privilege to hear you speak.

[@michaelbeachy2435]

Thank you so much for this. Your insights have been invaluable in helping me to understand myself and how past traumas and relationships have shaped me (I won't say malformed) and in the regular work I do with my therapist. Just... thank you. I'm finally starting to get in touch with my emotional needs and wellbeing in a way that I never before have, and your channel has been a catalyst for that.

[@lolafrancis7456]

This video is a game changer. Please make more videos Heidi, all of your content is amazing ✨

[@ignasmaciulis1095]

"... the work your parents did when you were one year old of figuring out how you feel about a situation..." and here I just paused the video and went like: "No they did not! They did not, Heidi! That's why I'm sitting here, watching your videos, trying to figure out the horrible flaming mess that is my attachment relationships! They did not!!!" The truth is probably "they did it in no adequate or consistent manner", but we get the point, and I somehow found this moment very funny. I was fairly reluctant to watch this one, because I had anticipated fodder for shaming myself for 'relying too much on others and burdening them with my s*** and being an incompetent stupid immature twat who is unable to deal with his life', but really I found it way more gentle, useful, and informative than that little boy in me had feared. Nice video!

[@VestigiaLamenta84]

I abhore going with the flow and agreeing with everything someone utters, but I just cannot seem to find fault with you! Thank you for being so candid about your own struggles; not only does it help us to relate but you adhering to your own guidelines makes the message so much more personal and convincing. The manner in which you pick yourself up by your bootstraps and turn your face towards the sun is something the world needs more of (as opposed to engendering a disempowering victim role). Thank you, once again. Please visit South Africa, or else I'll continue lavishing you with praise ad nauseam!

[@angelcathairs]

Wow, you delivered to me a huge aha! moment. Thank you so much 🙏

[@benjamintice6400]

Ok, so - when you said "But as adults we know....there is no right way to feel" - This has actually blown me away and I feel a little silly now. I was raised in a home where morals and traditional values were a really big deal. For me, I have always judged my feelings about something against these morals and values, to determine if it is the "right" way to feel about it. I.E. I have emotions, and those emotions drive internal dialogs, and now it's not about the emotions necessarily, it's about whether or not this internal dialog that I tell myself about these feelings are "right" or "correct" based on what these morals tell me. Considering there is no right way to feel seems....unjust? It's hard to articulate. It's like, okay if there isn't a right way to feel, then how will I know if I'm good or bad? How will I know if I'm justified for having them? I realized this week I have to justify why I have a feeling. It has to be "right" in order for me to be allowed to have it, otherwise I'm not allowed to feel it. Anyway, all this to say that I'm just staggered by this one line and I hope I can grow from this place more.

[@sprrringtime]

My mind is blown right now. I’ve been doing this for a lot time. I feel like I owe my friends an apology. I just thought of it as venting but the example about the friend with relationship problems was me to a T. Can you do another video on this?

[@transitionsnc]

It's good you recognized what you have been doing. Now you can adjust your behavior.

[@LadyDarkSunMoon]

This video was very helpful for me. Thank you for posting this and raising awareness about this behaviour; I feel it will enable me to become a better and less annoying version of myself and I have shared it with my friends because I believe it will help some of them as well. I feel I might have been dumping my emotions unto friends more than I had been sharing. Thank you for helping me fix that communication issue.

[@trudibarraclough478]

Great advice - I love it and I am using it every day now. I think one problem is that if I state how I feel, people tend to invalidate my feelings. Coming in with toxic positivity, or trying to support me by reprimanding me for feeling that way. eg, "no-one can make you feel that way without your permission." Along with "its on you that you are triggered". Then I feel the need to prove just how bad it was. I really look at my words now and hardly ever share. People can only offer what they are capable of.

[@kinethecoach]

Just wow, now I have a language going forward for when people emotionally dump left and right. And in my coaching practice guide people to stop this habit asap. This is pure Gold! 🌟🙌

[@deathsheadtarot8888]

This is probably the best video I've seen to distinguish this difference.... this is going to help me tremendously! And I will be watching it a few times too take down notes! 😄 Thank you for sharing 🙏

[@notprofessionallytrained]

Heidi, as always, your insights are so valuable and so appreciated! Thank you from the bottom of my heart for all that you do for us. I know this all requires a ton of time and energy from you, and I just hope you now how truly and deeply meaningful your contributions are.

[@elizabethstea]

Wonderful stuff Heidi! I've been on a journey to leave my drama era behind and have stopped dumping but didn't know what to do instead, so thank you.

[@elsagrace3893]

Fabulous! Very clear. Very helpful. Speaking with someone who is emotionally dumping is exhausting, very unsatisfying, disturbing even because it’s one long complaint but it’s always very vague. I’m never sure what their point is.

[@Kikipotamus]

Thanks! Very useful.

[@sunbeam9222]

This is such a fabulous video. I now know how to act and also how to respond to someone else doing it. Thank you!

[@johnmarkhatfield]

whoa. how insightful! it made me flash back a few times when people were extremely emotive, and i would listen, but not have any emotional response. i could talk to them about it, but i think there was an emotional expectation and they were outsourcing their own emotions. when i calmly listened, i was being cold. one time someone said “how can you be so fucking calm!!” i remember being a maintenance person and after a huge fire, the property manager was upset and i was confused about how it seemed he didn’t like that i was calm. i was more like the fire chief. i loved his calm presence. i was very very engaged with my ex wife’s home births, and the midwives loved how i was calm and helpful even in the presence of a retained placenta with hemorrhaging. this video has also paralleled my ex wife’s father and her now best friend. they both have big reactions to emotional responses. my ex was emotionally shut down for years, and that made the divorce word a huge surprise to me. perhaps she wouldn’t share because i she knew i wouldn’t match her emotional level. i don’t know if this is a deficit of mine, or just a different way of being present with a person. honestly, i didn’t have the maturity to analyze these situations and i have always been confused by them. i’m really curious how connected my ex wife is to her mom’s responses to her sharings. she is much more of a calm person and does life coaching. my ex also loves dr phil type shows. it all makes sense after this video. hopefully i can be more aware of my own reactions and take note of the emotional expectations on me.

[@albertotorres6236]

Thank you Heidi, I was doing the emotional dumping looking for suppprt, and I wasnt even aware of that, I usually shared my feelings about the situation only with people I felt really safe. This is a very ppwerful distinction for me, thank you for all the wisdom you share.🙏🙏🙏

[@carolynmcintosh8824]

This is a very interesting perspective and I think it's a shame we aren't taught this from somewhere. I don't know where. I needed to hear this today and am going to start small in implementing it. I am at the point where I am mentally exhausted with having to be the garbage can of other people's stuff. They are not behaving in a way(that I can see) that shows me they want to hunker down and actually improve their situation. I'm also not saying that I don't dump on other people but I am trying to be more aware of when I am doing it. Everybody has their own internal war going on. Try and look at the bigger picture and ask yourself if this is really worth feeling the outrage they want you to validate. It's draining.

[@kgore2890]

Thanks!

[@thomasprimas8752]

Danke!

[@melissamuller5209]

You just revealed part of me to myself here! I am so grateful for you and the way you get into the dark places within!❤

[@mingtoiisaac4623]

Wow! Never heard these terms before. Enjoyed how well you explained the differences including examples. I'm learning a lot. Thank you ❤️

[@twinkytobar7509]

Very very interesting, my friends' time is important for me I know they are super busy with their own lives so I hate wasting it on my problems, therefore I have always tried to use it wisely, and if I ask their help t osolve any of my issues; I try to think carefully in order to present that problem as much as real as possible. Your video has helped a lot to know how to separate drama from real showing what my struggles are and how to get effective feedback from my clever friends.

[@bojassem12]

Thank you so much, this is really helpful! Never heard of this but I've done it instinctually before.

[@smileyface702]

Thanks

[@annan4866]

Thank you for putting this out there. I find it very helpful. I appreciate how you present in clear, relatable way and bring deeper understanding of what goes on in the weird world of emotions. I am glad I came across your channel as it has helped on more than 1 occasion.

[@matildasmith8128]

Far out I feel like this is the way all the women in my life communicate, including myself! How did I not know this was a thing?

[@micie731]

I found this very educational and very helpful deal my mother and my sister and myself. I think this really really important that I watch this. Thank you so much.

[@PiscesSun24]

I am emotional dumper I apologized to my sister. Thank you I’m hooked to your videos they are enlightening and spoken so well I get it! Much 💕

[@lisawanderess]

🤯 great insights and tips…I have been both dumper and dumpee and will definitely keep your useful tips in mind, thank you!

[@alessandrocwilliam]

I think I did this for my entire adult life. Thank you for opening my eyes and also giving me the right tools to correct this behavior and seek for the right kind of help.

[@traceybyrne1690]

Yes learned heaps about my dumping from your amazing presentations ❤❤❤❤

[@sirene815]

Brilliantly explained! Keep 'em coming Heidi! P.s How does empathy play in with this? How do you stop confusing empathy with ego function outsourcing, especially for people who crave validation because their experience wasn't properly validated in childhood?

[@brightphoebesays]

"There is no right way to feel." That's the pearl of wisdom from this video. Just like I learned, "There are no Daddies," in a School of Life video.

[@Smoothjazz001]

When ads interrupt Heidis video: *Sits through the entire ad so she can get that sweet sweet ad revenue*

[@gloriawatkins4131]

This was very enlightening um.. I may in past or depending on trigger method in moment have run to historically dump then regretted the style I used ..um gosh thanks Heidi thank you!!

[@CrystalisMadrid]

OMG thank you for that clarification. Me ex has been emotionally dumping on TikTok and I needed that clarification on the purpose of those types of actions. Walking away in peace now. Thank you!

[@skleeblatt]

Thank you Heidi, you have been a Pilar on my healing journey!

[@Peeegoska]

Yep. I was doing thing for my whole life, and 6 months to my psychologist. And I didn't even know what was happening, I just felt like there was no connection. And then I understood, and I feel like i discover a whole new world.

[@More-than-Matter]

I am so grateful for your material Heidi. You explain everything so clearly and all these things finally make sense to me.

[@mcduffconcertina3837]

This is the best video I’ve ever watched. Incredible! Thank you 🙏🏼

[@ElexusLovesHerLife]

I need this! It’s like word vomit 🤮😩!

[@serenity__now]

Great video. However sometimes we might want to share situations or interpersonal dynamics with our friends/people we trust to try and figure out whether we might be overreacting or missing something etc especially if you're someone prone to distorting reality when you get triggered or emotional. They might help us understand the other person's side or how see things from a more helpful perspective. We've all got blindspots. So I'm unsure whether what you described as emotional dumping (describing the facts of what actually happened in detail) is necessarily something we need to avoid. I think an important distinction you could have made is what the motivation behind it is (simply avoiding sitting with our emotions or instead looking for clarity and an outside perspective). Also, validation of one's experiences and feelings can be vital at times. I don't think it's that black and white / could have been explained with more nuance. I do love your videos and they've been incredibly enlightening, thank you for making them and I look forward to more.

[@MoschinoAmore]

I don’t think this is incompatible with what Heidi said in this video. Heidi clarified from the beginning that it’s not emotional dumping when you share those things and also share your own emotional experience and you don’t leave out the context and additional details that are necessary to provide advice that can actually help you move forward. If you’re doing that, then you are not merely outsourcing your ego function a la emotional dumping.

[@mariajoy4541]

Wow I would love to tell you that after I watched this video and started to understand this concept another very big penny dropped for me. I have always wondered why I am so uncomfortable with other people telling me stories or information that is intended to illicit some kind of emotion response from me. I always thought I just wasn't an empathetic person or even a sympathetic person. It just makes me freeze essentially if someone tries to share something with me that I get the feeling that they need me to empathize or sympathize, because the only thing I ever feel is extremely awkward. But when I watched this video I realized that a lot of the time what those people are doing is emotionally dumping on me, so they are saying to me that XYZ happened and they are looking to me for the emotional response and of course I have absolutely no trust at all in my emotions being an FA and so that leads to me being stunned into silence, my body clamming up and the conversation going completely flat and nothing coming of it, just 2 people having one awkward exchange and then pushing it under the carpet. I have wanted to know the answer to this for so long, and I think this may be a big part of it, so now I know that I have to ask them more about how they feel and that should help relieve this tension a bit. Thank you

[@rossirossi-iu9wx]

Thank you for this. I just realised that I usually default to talking about the person's actions instead of how I feel, because my feelings were invalidated by my parents growing up, especially after I started to have an opinion. My siblings too, invalidate my feelings, picking up on my parents' way of treating me. So I subconsciously thought that presenting the facts in an objective manner may be better since they can see that I'm not exaggerating my feelings (I have been told all my life that I overreact to things, and rarely does anyone stop to consider my perspective), but anyway, eventually I stopped talking about my feelings because they started to make me feel like I'm hysterical.

[@shelby477]

Great video. It has helped me realize i can emotionally share safely. I learned from a very young age I wasn't safe to share my feelings. Then, starting as a teenager I attracted a lot of people who did their emotional dumping with me. I learned to have an aversion to people who did this and usually stay away at the first sign of it.. but that meant I never shared anything with anybody because I thought that I would look like someone who just wanted to bitch but not ever actually solve the situation. Plus I didn't want to do that to my friends. So now in my sixties I don't actually share with people what's really going on me. This video has given me a new way to realize I can appropriately share things. I think it's also good to keep in mind what you may be doing to the other person's reputation that you are possibly trashing with your dumping. Edit because i apparently deleted the whole first section before posting.

[@pauladuncanadams1750]

That's not exactly what I understand emotional dumping to mean, however, I think it ties with what you are discussing. To me "dumping" is griping and not changing. You expect me to listen to all your garbage, you feel better (I feel worse) but you never "fix" your problems. And there's a different one every week. We just can't go have fun because you can't let go and won't allow it, until you are left alone because no one wants to deal with you and your problems. I am not your therapist. The fact that everyone else has problems but you don't work on yourself first with a therapist indicates vulnerable narcissism.

[@sparkstudies1675]

Hey, I think that's jumping to conclusions a little too soon. No one is obligated to listen to a friend/relative/w/e rant on about their problems all the time. Yes, it is exhausting. But friendship or companionship isn't just about waiting for someone to conveniently be what you need them to be in order for you to be happy and have fun. It also includes genuinely caring about that person, doing things for them because you want to, encouraging them to get help, and if needs be, distancing yourself for both your sake and theirs. Not because they're just annoying, but out of a genuine care for their well-being (you are not helping them by enabling these patterns of behaviours) and out of self-respect and your first responsibility to care for your emotional state. As said in the video, this isn't about them and how annoying they are and why nobody wants to be friends with them. It's about how you're feeling, what you're willing to do and what works for you. Some people take a long time to learn and heal and that doesn't necessarily make them narcissists.

[@pauladuncanadams1750]

@@sparkstudies1675 Who's jumping to conclusions? Maybe you??? I'm talking 15 years here. Can't there be a little fun? Every time I hear from her it's a new problem. Can't even go to a restaurant for fear she will start crying. Can't go for a walk or a drive or just be. There's just two of us in the relationship, me and her problems; she's checked out. In the beginning of the relationship I said I would be supportive if she got a therapist. She claimed that she did. But it's always complaining and I never hear a word about anything else. Yes, she's taken on a troubled child from a bad environment, I get that, which is why I was supportive. But she never did anything for herself. It got to a point where she broke down right when we were in the middle of our own crisis. I told her that I would support her in healthier ways but we have stuff going on right now. That comes first. Most of the time I am in a position to give but right then I wasn't able to carry her, she was gonna have to stand on her own feet. She couldn't handle that and I blocked her. I am sad about it but I don't feel bad. She's toxic. One of the last things she told me was that she was diagnosed NPD by a different therapist.

[@sparkstudies1675]

@@pauladuncanadams1750 Ok well my bad I didn't realise you were talking about one specific person the whole time, and you didn't mention that you already spoke to them about their habit of never putting in effort to find solutions, or even how you were feeling. From what you now describe, that isn't a relationship at all, as she just takes and never gives. I do feel sorry for her, because as much as people's problems annoy us, they probably pain the person carrying them even more, but I definitely understand how something like this isn't healthy for you at all. I'm sorry you had to deal with that. Thank you for trying and I sincerely wish you both the best.

[@pauladuncanadams1750]

@@sparkstudies1675 Hey, no problem. No harm no foul. I guess that I should have been more clear. Originally, I wasn't going to go into such detail. You are correct though that relationships aren't all about fun. I think for most people it's hard to find someone who's willing to listen and that most people only want fun and games, will jump ship when things get rough. I'm not like that. I believe a true friendship is more balanced and can maintain both good and bad, be satisfying for both parties. Cheers.

[@ba-dum_tss]

I love your videos! Your energy and your simple non judgmental explanations are really great ♥️

[@leotardbanshee]

This was helpful to me because i often lack the cognitive empathy it takes to understand how people feel when they emotionally dump on me and sometimes i don't know which emotion people want me to feel and i choose the wrong one, so i will say something like, wow, that sounds really hard, how are you feeling about all that? So i dont assume the wrong emotion they're feeling. Sometimes when i ask that people get upset that i dont know immediately. Well, you never told me, how am i supposed to know? I obviously need a lot more work on myself to make sure i dont emotionally dump, but man, trying to guess other people's emotions about a situation is like gambling for me.

[@er6730]

Maybe it would be more palatable if you added a guess when you respond. Like, instead of "wow, that sounds really hard, how are you feeling?" Say "wow, that sounds really hard, are you feeling overwhelmed? And then they can say "exactly!" or "not really, more disappointed". Whereas if you say "how are you feeling?" it can give the impression that you weren't even listening, because they're trying to tell you and now it seems like you don't see them at all. I can tell that you're coming from a good place not wanting to assume, but getting it wrong, or only partially right, is infinitely better than not trying. Also, often people don't know how to sort out their mixed feelings when they're so strong, so having the listener suggest one (like my example of 'overwhelmed'), makes it easier to figure it out. If it's like gambling, go ahead and roll the dice! You might win and you might not, but you'll definitely not win if you don't play at all. Example: Once I had just lost a loved one and was in a very dark place. I turned to my husband one night and asked for a hug. And I said "I'm just so sad. I feel like I can't breathe." And he kindly asked "Why are you sad?" And that was so hurtful, I haven't felt the same way about him since. If he'd at least have guessed, I wouldn't have felt so invisible. This way, I was left with the impression that he didn't see any reason for me to be sad, had possibly forgotten about our loss, when he might have meant something more benign, like "did something happen today that made the grief harder to bear?"