Heljan's Badly Designed WM Railbus | Unboxing & Review

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0:00 Intro
3:31 Unboxing
8:00 Prototype Info
9:06 Detail
16:20 Mechanism
21:51 Performance
32:58 Ratings
37:28 Final Thoughts

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@stephendavies6949
@stephendavies6949 Ай бұрын
Heljan are such a mercurial company. Two of my own favourite models are the Heljan class 14 & 15, which run very well too. But there's no doubt that they do make some spectacular errors.
@SueBobChicVid
@SueBobChicVid Ай бұрын
Oh, man! The prototype is so different. How can they even say this is a model of that vehicle?
@ianhudson2193
@ianhudson2193 Ай бұрын
In what way?
@SueBobChicVid
@SueBobChicVid Ай бұрын
@@ianhudson2193 Look at the photo at 13:37. The only similarity between the prototype and the model is that they both have four wheels. The chassis, window layout and shape, the roof, the cab-end detail - just about everything else is different. And it is a photo of the exact same number vehicle!
@Locknut61
@Locknut61 Ай бұрын
The photo is a Whickham built railbus. Completely different.
@billlucas8124
@billlucas8124 Ай бұрын
@@Locknut61 yet it too is numbered 999507? just like the model.
@kenattwood8060
@kenattwood8060 Ай бұрын
@@billlucas8124 Looks like Heljan got the unit number from a picture of a Wickham unit... This begs the question, did any Waggon und Maschinenbau railcars ever do duty as Track Recording cars?
@johndavidbaldwin3075
@johndavidbaldwin3075 Ай бұрын
The photo of the prototype was of a Wickham railbus I think the Waggon und Macshinenbau ones went straight into preservation. Most of the British built railcars were less successful the Park Royal ones (the original Airfix model in the 1960s ) was full of asbestos and the last one was buried whole in a tip in Glasgow.
@Demun1649
@Demun1649 Ай бұрын
Why was it burned, in the open, in Scotland? Why not in the open, in Park Royal, which is a tip to start with?
@davidbarr9343
@davidbarr9343 Ай бұрын
@@Demun1649 😂
@Gatherleymodeller.
@Gatherleymodeller. Ай бұрын
Your videos are so awesome, I have spent the last half an hour waiting for you to upload!!
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains Ай бұрын
Thank you so much - hope you enjoy this! Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@ivovanzon164
@ivovanzon164 Ай бұрын
For the pulling power: based on the German prototype (Vt98) it should at least be able to pull 2 cars, with these cars being full size continental 2 axle ones.
@lesbird2074
@lesbird2074 Ай бұрын
I have one of the original releases in Green. Recently it started to perform quite badly so I decided to delve into the model. The first thing that happened was that one of the roof mounted horns broke. Given the price, these could have been made from brass. When I looked at what else was needed to remove the body, I put the model back in its box. I think a rail replacement bus service is in the cards!
@gunnardannehl372
@gunnardannehl372 Ай бұрын
Interesting vehicle, especially for me as a german viewer. The base of the british railbus was the German "Schienenbus" in 2 classes (one with one engine, one with 2, hundreds were built and did service for many years. Withdrawn similarly like in Britain, still quite a lot are in service as historical vehicles. So for the remaining British rail busses the spare part supply should be still possible from Germany. Would be interesting to see a comparison between the Heljan model and a german model of the class VT98 for example from Märklin (great model!) - but be prepared, this is even more expensive!
@jackstrains4468
@jackstrains4468 Ай бұрын
Awesome video sam, typical heljan 😅😅 been waiting for a review of this for a while! Im in york at the moment - national railway museum here i come!
@trainman86trainstramsandmore
@trainman86trainstramsandmore Ай бұрын
The Wagon and maschinbau railbuses were not used in departmental use and I'm pretty sure this livery is fictional as it was applied to a whole different type of railbus produced by wickham
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains Ай бұрын
I thought they were?? Though you're right, the running number on this is for a different prototype, which is why it doesn't match the photos! Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@trainman86trainstramsandmore
@trainman86trainstramsandmore Ай бұрын
@@SamsTrains Yeah they were immedaitewly withdrawn after ending passenger service.
@caw25sha
@caw25sha Ай бұрын
It seems 999507 and two others were purpose built for departmental use, but with a simpler style of cab fronts like Sam showed a photo of. I don't think dressing a model up in an inauthentic livery is really acceptable.
@trainman86trainstramsandmore
@trainman86trainstramsandmore Ай бұрын
@caw25sha yeah I feel marking it down on realism after buying the most unrealistic livery of the bunch doesn't really work all that well. If he bought a BR green one it would have been more accurate and just better
@tobyytlai
@tobyytlai 25 күн бұрын
It's basically like Hornby putting an Emily livery on a GWR Dean Single
@briandesens144
@briandesens144 Ай бұрын
Awesome video Sam's trains
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains Ай бұрын
Thanks Brian!
@briandesens144
@briandesens144 Ай бұрын
@@SamsTrains you're welcome Sam's trains
@tobyyoder8350
@tobyyoder8350 Ай бұрын
Great review Sam, I can't wait to see the review on Heljans 10800 class locomotive
@martinshipman3260
@martinshipman3260 Ай бұрын
Good to see Heljan catering to our need to winge about something
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains Ай бұрын
haha it'd be hard not to winge about this one... absolute rubbish! Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@brmh1667
@brmh1667 Ай бұрын
Perhaps if they didn't cater we wouldn't whine? Think about it, what comes first, the poor product or the moan?
@paulmarmion358
@paulmarmion358 Ай бұрын
Another great video 👍
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains Ай бұрын
Thanks Paul!
@Unmasking_Viandalisme
@Unmasking_Viandalisme Ай бұрын
In the '60s, I had an unpowered, Airfix kit of this. Loved that the doors slid open. 12.5p, which was enough! BR green, with whiskers, would be my choice of livery but I don't need to spend £170, in order to revisit my past. Such stated, your reviews are excellent.
@johncunningham6928
@johncunningham6928 Ай бұрын
I think that Dapol still make it, but it'll be rather more than half a crown now!!
@Unmasking_Viandalisme
@Unmasking_Viandalisme Ай бұрын
@@johncunningham6928 Yes! I've seen it advertised for "as little as" £9.72. How much?😳🤣
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains Ай бұрын
Blimey, opening doors is more than this has! Many thanks for the kind words! Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@petee19
@petee19 Ай бұрын
The Airfix model was based on the Park Royal Rail Bus.
@Unmasking_Viandalisme
@Unmasking_Viandalisme Ай бұрын
@@petee19 I'd love to know more, as I'm sure would many others here.
@jamesdunloptrains
@jamesdunloptrains Ай бұрын
Awesome video today Sam what a really nice locomotive
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains Ай бұрын
Thanks James!
@Locknut61
@Locknut61 Ай бұрын
That photo is a Whickham built railbus. Entirely different design.
@tobyytlai
@tobyytlai 25 күн бұрын
It's basically like Hornby putting an Emily livery on a GWR Dean Single
@stevedickens1335
@stevedickens1335 Ай бұрын
A bit of trivia for you ... having guarded one of these many times in preservation I can tell that this model is based on the ones at the Worth Valley as it has an extre electrical socket at each end fitted by one of our members to enable tandem running!
@alasdairblack393
@alasdairblack393 23 күн бұрын
My father Bill Black and many other volunteers on the KWV drove the two rail busses on the line for the morning runs on the line in the early years of the preserved line.
@anthonyjackson280
@anthonyjackson280 Ай бұрын
Couple of comments: The weight may be needed to prevent derailing. I had issues with a very light (inexpensive) HO 0-4-0 tank. On the 2nd radius chicane the flanges are probably binding between front and rear axles; as it is, in effect, a very large wheel base single bogie. The weight would help with overcoming flange binding on tight curves - the slight under-gauging of the wheels may be for the same reason.
@Tractors101
@Tractors101 Ай бұрын
I love the 'old tool' in the thumbnail 😂
@Madonsteamrailways
@Madonsteamrailways Ай бұрын
The small location at the top of the vehicle was used not for a Head Code, but for a destination blind with available destinations on it.
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains Ай бұрын
Ahh yes - I meant destination board... that's my mistake! Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@jamesgilbart2672
@jamesgilbart2672 Ай бұрын
Interesting review! About ten years ago I bought a Park Royal version of this Heljan railbus (same mechanism, structure and daft DCC chip location) - it is slightly better than your example in terms of performance and detail. The wheelbase is long and it exactly spans the insulated frogs on diamond crossings so it would stop dead. I fitted a stay-alive which solved the issue and prevented stalling elsewhere. The internal lights are very dim and strangely reduce the motor speed when they're switched on.
@sabre0smile
@sabre0smile Ай бұрын
The fact that it scored an F and arguably was still let off easy on Performance, Quality, and Value is... impressive in all the wrong ways.
@alantraish3368
@alantraish3368 Ай бұрын
Excellent review. In 2012 I got 6 of these 1st batch railbuses in green with speed whiskas and yellow panel. 2 x WM 2x AC & 2 x Park Royal. The wheel set nylon gear split on a WM shortly after purchase. Spare thru Gaugemaster. Then later an AC one blew up a motor and decoder. I ordered spare motor from Londons who kindly swapped the worm gears over. Could not get it back together so it laid in bits for years till Olivia trains rescued it and put in better decoder. They have high amp draw like most Heljans. Mine are all stored till layout built but I dont think they will run without future trouble. Mind you if they ever do the rare Bristol railbus I couldnt resist a couple.
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains Ай бұрын
Blimey, so sorry to hear about that terrible experience - sorry but not at all surprised! Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@TheFonzie3000
@TheFonzie3000 Ай бұрын
Thanks for the review, Sam. You, have saved me 170 ,quid 👍
@1471SirFrederickBanbury
@1471SirFrederickBanbury Ай бұрын
I think that the main reason that Helmand is still around is their class 07, as well as the ease of converting to P4 and EM. I don’t see that much else that they do better than anyone else, but I don’t model BR, so I probably wouldn’t know. Thanks as always Sam.
@AtheistOrphan
@AtheistOrphan Ай бұрын
Helmand? They’re a mustard-manufacturer!
@grahamariss2111
@grahamariss2111 Ай бұрын
I guess in Denmark the smart engineers are employed designing funky HiFi and furniture and so it is not the "shiniest spanners in the toolkit" that are left to design model locomotives.
@Olivers-trains
@Olivers-trains Ай бұрын
They produced the wring Wagon and Machibou railbus for this unit, what plonkers. It looks alright to represent the 4 that survive, 2 of which I've seen at the KWVR. Great video Sam
@LeonardOnYouTube
@LeonardOnYouTube Ай бұрын
Awesome video production as always! As expected. This channel is just amazing, well done :)
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains Ай бұрын
Thank you so much! :D
@simaesthesia
@simaesthesia Ай бұрын
Had to laugh at the rant about the DCC socket photo!!
@pennysteam
@pennysteam Ай бұрын
We have 2 at KWVR
@NWRJ_WStudios
@NWRJ_WStudios Ай бұрын
17:32 Sometime heljan, I really wonder. Cheers Jasper & Willow
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains Ай бұрын
haha I know!!
@trainman86trainstramsandmore
@trainman86trainstramsandmore Ай бұрын
31:56 derby lightweight looks good :D in fact the preserved 2 car set irl is not far off being operational again. Trailer car is complete and motor car is under restoration and from what I have heard and seen it is very steady
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains Ай бұрын
Good spot! That's good to hear - I did see the bogies in progress last year! Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@MarcNaylor
@MarcNaylor Ай бұрын
Hi Sam I do hope you are going to send the railbus back due to the cracked window and bodywork. Having watched your review I won’t be buying one - maybe in a few years time when people are selling them off!! The review is as informative and entertaining as ever, so thank you very much Very best wishes to you. Marc
@ScottishNSRailFan
@ScottishNSRailFan Ай бұрын
Loved your honest presentation. Of my 383 locos in my collection, not one from Heljan. Your honest reviews of Heljan products helped in my decision not to buy
@benjaminlorenz2181
@benjaminlorenz2181 Ай бұрын
Nearly all of the former east german Piko locos have similar pickups. And i do have no problems with that. I clean them every year or so. Cost me 10 secs per axle, mostly without the need to open the body. I have to do this with pickups from the inner side of the wheel, too. They do collect dust too.
@robot7759
@robot7759 15 күн бұрын
I kinda like how it slows down on the curves.
@G.E.Trains
@G.E.Trains Ай бұрын
i see those all the time at the EARM at chappel, the horn is ridiculously loud lol
@Wonlongpong
@Wonlongpong Ай бұрын
There appear to be problems with the corner windows cracking. Your one is the same as every example that I have seen, including my own. See at 13:07. It's quite significant. I assume the top assembly is being stretched to fit over the lower section.
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains Ай бұрын
Yeah that's what I thought too - just a shoddy design through and through Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@kariikonen8695
@kariikonen8695 Ай бұрын
Hey sam, can you link me the aliexpress loco youve placed at the bottom? Or is that video not out yet?
@Madonsteamrailways
@Madonsteamrailways Ай бұрын
It’s a lovely little model. I think I might get one if the agent who does the August Modelling Extravaganza has one.
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains Ай бұрын
If you can find one for the right price... and you don't mind the inaccuracies ;D Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@GreyTheFloydianSergal
@GreyTheFloydianSergal Ай бұрын
I'm a huge fan of railbuses, I built a park royal railbus from the dapol kit (motorised too)& got a silver fox W&M bus. I'm curious about how the Heljan AC cars railbus holds up nowadays. Looking into the vehicle that this is meant to depict, it would appear to be a Wickham railbus, interesting because Heljan made plans for many railbuses including the Wickham bus however that, & the Bristol Railbus, seem to be the only ones they didn't make
@johnchadwick4222
@johnchadwick4222 Ай бұрын
About as well as the W&M one.
@Tombola1993
@Tombola1993 Ай бұрын
It’s a neat little loco.
@MayoHosko
@MayoHosko Ай бұрын
these models deserve a separate channel called rip off trains
@shayleebell9206
@shayleebell9206 Ай бұрын
Lighting is decently accurate, even ER Driver I sar with in DMUs like them dark at night
@AllensTrains
@AllensTrains Ай бұрын
Quite an unusual item. A test you might have performed would have been to try it on a 1st radius circuit. A railbus like this is a suitable item for those with a very small 1st radius layout. Not everybody has the use of an entire loft like you! Thanks for uploading.
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains Ай бұрын
Yeah absolutely - it should have been perfect on r1... expect it would be! Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@scottdyke7853
@scottdyke7853 Ай бұрын
I like the concept of single car DMUs for small layouts. Sam observed the railbus slows down through 2nd radius curves, I feel this is because of the long non articulated wheel base. I have a similar problem with CCT wagons on 2nd and first radius curves, which is why I'm hesitant about this model on 1st radius curves? I was going to put this point directly, but as you touched on it in your thread, it was logical to develop it. 🙂
@timchalk6810
@timchalk6810 Ай бұрын
This reminds me of the old airfix/dapol railbus kit
@Madonsteamrailways
@Madonsteamrailways Ай бұрын
The model you’re reviewing, Sam, is the Western Region permanent Way vehicle.
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains Ай бұрын
Thanks a lot for sharing!
@ciaranburke3243
@ciaranburke3243 Ай бұрын
The model itself is lovely sam hopefully accuscale will produce this down the line heljan have made a mess of it, great review 👍
@Grazzuk
@Grazzuk Ай бұрын
I got a BR green one the first time round they released. Still to this day it has the record in my collection of being the worst one to DCC chip. The BR green version also had ladder detailing below the centre door, of which one was damaged during chipping. I will never be going back into that model.
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains Ай бұрын
Yeah I think it's the worst one I've seen for chipping too - they've got nerve re-releasing this! Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@trainman86trainstramsandmore
@trainman86trainstramsandmore Ай бұрын
I badly want to buy this model in KWVR red it looks really nice
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains Ай бұрын
Yeah all the liveries look good to be fair!
@Demun1649
@Demun1649 Ай бұрын
How much would a replacement 5-pole motor cost. It wasn't very noticeable whether it was a double-ended driver's cab model, is it? Can the floor level be lowered? I love the railbus, blood and custard.
@briancooper562
@briancooper562 Ай бұрын
The first (no power) plastic models of these in UK where Airfix, later to become Dapol,.and they where fairly detailed models. In that time it did not matter that it had no power because you could get power rolling stock. Similar European types are seen with at least one flat or low sided wagon for goods, bikes, or skis which is pushed or pulled, so no running round.
@paulputnam2305
@paulputnam2305 24 күн бұрын
Good Job
@lnerj50productions32
@lnerj50productions32 Ай бұрын
Hey sam you should look at the broadway limited rf16 sharknose
@leelishman7137
@leelishman7137 Ай бұрын
Agreed about the price and accessibility,but the slowing down on sharp curve,some might see that as a positive, makes it look realistic/prototypical. Also I'd say pulling away from a stand looks fine,it's not a shunting loco,or going to be coupled to anything,certainly doesn't pull away at "high speed". Also the price reflects its a very niche unit
@hughoconnor9172
@hughoconnor9172 Ай бұрын
Whilst I can agree with your comments about the speed issue; the price is simply down to greed.
@NeilFWise
@NeilFWise Ай бұрын
I recommend the heljan class 33.
@GarthDavies-cd5oh
@GarthDavies-cd5oh Ай бұрын
I cant wait for Sam to review the new Heljan Class 47. 🤣
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains Ай бұрын
Not until they're reduced to sensible prices - looks completely wrong from the photos I've seen! Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@GarthDavies-cd5oh
@GarthDavies-cd5oh Ай бұрын
@@SamsTrains Its a terrible model by most accounts .It would be lucky if it was awarded a single star under your system .
@Teesbrough
@Teesbrough Ай бұрын
The Heljan AC Cars railbus got me back into model railways after 40 years away. (I’m told I’d travelled on the real ones in my pram!). I have two which are also heavy, have tiny detail parts which fall off -,though they pre-date Accurascale lol - look great and run fine. As ever, your review is mostly fair for what is a fake version of the W&M railbus. All I would question, though, is your comment about using screws to fix the body to the chassis: might these show through the interior which is designed to be very visible?
@flickrscreen
@flickrscreen Ай бұрын
Heljan confound me, but I own a swag of their shunters in different liveries because they're gorgeous and unique. I never pay anything like full price either, but wait for sales etc.
@TheRedLineModelRailway
@TheRedLineModelRailway Ай бұрын
This thing puts me in mind of Alan Sugar’s “mug’s eyeful” method of shifting complete tat for silly money. There’s one born every minute being the order of the day.
@MrBnsftrain
@MrBnsftrain 24 күн бұрын
When I saw the thumbnail for this video, I thought this was an O gauge model!
@odenviking
@odenviking Ай бұрын
fun fact the engine in the german made railbus was a pancake diesel. the engine was flat head as in a normal deisel had a taller head. bussing used that type of engine in there truck range. in the late 60 ties bussing was bought up by m.a.n . thanks for a intresting video on heljan. 🇸🇪🇸🇪🇸🇪🇸🇪🇸🇪👍👍👍👍👍👍
@SDD3204
@SDD3204 Ай бұрын
Did W&M rail buses ever appear in anything but green before preservation era? I have three of the first release of this model. Excellent review. To add, (subject to any Heljan improvements in this release): The plastic axleboxes becomd detatched and are lost very easily. The original instructions do warn you to remove and care for the handrails. Unless they have changed, the horn mouldings break very easily, and they are/were not always easy to remove either. Excelkent review. I suspect they may not have fly wheel(s)? What do you think?
@MarceloBenoit-trenes
@MarceloBenoit-trenes Ай бұрын
Its cheaper to purchase a Roco 798 railbus with trailer than this single car. The builder was called WMD (Waggon und Maschinenbau Donauworth) and also built some of the 798 cars and trailers.
@tobyytlai
@tobyytlai 25 күн бұрын
It might look more like DB999507 if Heljan blacks out (yellows out?) the corner windows But after all, it is a Waggon & Maschinenbau Railbus in *fictional* Track Recording Coach livery
@stationmasterschoice-walku1307
@stationmasterschoice-walku1307 Ай бұрын
I think they've missed an opportunity here. Had Heljan taken the trouble to actually produce a proper Wickham railbus, not only would this model have been more accurate, but BR liveries would be available to give modellers a new railbus to collect.
@leelishman7137
@leelishman7137 Ай бұрын
Crazy to think it would work, lighter. The unit,if it was light, with the over hang,too,would be off the track every 5 seconds, it needs to be heavy.
@johnchadwick4222
@johnchadwick4222 Ай бұрын
I have all the Heljan railbuses and they are all complete nightmares to get into, but sold out very quickly. My Park Royal had a faulty board and all Hattons could offer was a refund or live with it.
@traintimeboy
@traintimeboy Ай бұрын
Perhaps the picture was of the British built ones?
@GreatCentralJ73
@GreatCentralJ73 Ай бұрын
Anybody Notice In the Log Book in Last Place Was "Aliexpress Porter husler", wonder what thats about?
@Elvinley
@Elvinley Ай бұрын
Just watching the review Sam. I think the weight should help with current pickup as it is only a four wheel vehicle. That crack is bad. I'd return it for that! Wow...as this review goes on it really does turn into a horror show.
@keithparker5125
@keithparker5125 Ай бұрын
Apart from the passenger doors, it look more like the Park Royal railbus (which only had one window per door) rather than the ones built by Waggon u. Maschinenbau.
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains Ай бұрын
Ahh interesting - thanks a lot for sharing! Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@andrewphippsphillips1455
@andrewphippsphillips1455 Ай бұрын
Ridden on the real W&M buses that used to be at the North Norfolk Railway and they are certainly entertainment on 4 wheels. They rather rattle & bounce a bit while in motion & the power for the lights used to cut out sometimes. I only found out they used to work in Essex/Suffolk on the "doomed" network of lines, when saw someone winding around the destination blinds. One of those listed said "Acro Halt" & my father had a job at the Acro plant outside Saffron Walden, which did have a derelict concrete platform near the factory by a disused line. In reality the W&Ms are no better or worse than a Class 142 Pacer, only in a single car formation. FTR, the North Norfolk Railway did also have the prototype LEV1 Leyland bus, which was really just a Leyland National bus jammed on top of a chassis with 4 wheels.
@anfieldroadlayoutintheloft5204
@anfieldroadlayoutintheloft5204 Ай бұрын
good vid
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains Ай бұрын
Thank you!
@lapiswake6583
@lapiswake6583 28 күн бұрын
DB999507 (later Lab 2 of the RTC) is a Wickham built railbus, not a W&M built one. I don't really see why Heljan thought that the W&M railbus was suitable as a representation for the Wickham prototypes. Overall, Heljan have done the W&M, AC Cars, and Park Royal railbuses in 00, as well as the AC Cars one in 0, each design having 5 units built. I don't understand why they didn't tool up a separate Wickham one for this particular prototype, there being 5 regular passenger ones plus this track recording one. There were only 2 Bristol / Eastern Coach Works ones, and only 2 Drewry ones, so it's not surprising they haven't done those two.
@JustinFrazier_360
@JustinFrazier_360 Ай бұрын
So cool review sam
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains Ай бұрын
Thanks Justin!
@terrynutlob4073
@terrynutlob4073 Ай бұрын
Hi Sam. Your railbus was like mine from 2012 first batch. However after only about 2 hours of running it stuck fast and refused to move. On one end the gear train had so much play it had jumped out of the casting and broken teeth off. I just removed the gear and it runs OK on one powered axle. Not what you should put up with as I paid about £110 for my BR green version 12 years ago.
@Str-fx1bl
@Str-fx1bl 21 күн бұрын
They took the chassis of a truck and put the body of a coach on it
@johnbaker6208
@johnbaker6208 Ай бұрын
A long rigid wheel base round curves will drag a bit.
@ianlang6058
@ianlang6058 Ай бұрын
The weight doesn't slow the model down unless it's going uphill.
@sophiekadams
@sophiekadams Ай бұрын
There's a small part of me that wants to buy a British engine and use the screw link couplers on a short train, but there's also another part of my brain that is normal and doesn't want to torture myself with couplings that small
@mikeking2539
@mikeking2539 Ай бұрын
I have had a look at the instructions that came with my Railbus, they do say to carefuly remove the hamdrails,! And there are about 6 poor quality photos to show you how to remove the body. Trust me even if you do manage not to loose either of the handrails, it is very difficult to get them back on.. that is why the ones for my model are stored in the box, and are not back on the thing!
@ianlang6058
@ianlang6058 Ай бұрын
Would you say it's a bit expensive then?
@davidstrains4910
@davidstrains4910 Ай бұрын
In all honestly it’s good that Heljan did these models of very strange vehicles like this, I have thought about picking up the laboratory 20 version in the RTC livery, most likely will still buy one of those because I like the looking it.
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains Ай бұрын
It is - though they haven't actually done the real loco this is supposed to be based on... this is a poor representation of it! It is nice to see unusual locos though! Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@dekhrahahoon
@dekhrahahoon Ай бұрын
Noticed this before. My advice to Heljan: Your modelling staff do a fair job, they look good. But the staff who design the internals should ALL be fired. Just start again, hire people with a brain who give a damn.
@rogerking7258
@rogerking7258 Ай бұрын
This model is extremely prototypical (more below) - but not in that livery. The prototype photo you showed is actually of a completely different vehicle. The real ones of this model used to operate through the town where I live and were two wheel drive; this caused problems on the route because it was on an incline and if they were facing the wrong way round they couldn't manage the journey in the uphill direction if it was damp. They literally had to make sure they were the "right" way round in order to use them, even though they were visually identical each end. So why is the model so prototypical? Because one of the axle gears split on my green version and turned it into two wheel drive - and - It wouldn't drive itself round my layout unless it was a particular way round due to very poor traction. Actually, it's not a bad model of the prototype and mine runs superbly on DCC (after fixing the split gear), but you can see that it rides very roughly over points and rail joints. Guess what? That was one of the main reasons that the prototypes were so complained about by passengers and led to early withdrawal.
@dannyvanstraelen3273
@dannyvanstraelen3273 Ай бұрын
Well you can better oder a second one for spare parts, as Heljan spare part stock is very scarce. Got a simple cabin LED light broken on my London Metropolitan Electric No. 12, and this was two years ago, not available🤯. Replaced it with a generic one in the end. And this one, cut open with a knife🤯, lets me sound like Victor Mildred "I can't believe it"…
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains Ай бұрын
Ahh is that so? Can't say I'm surprised... yeah it's shocking isn't it?? Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@lindaoffenbach
@lindaoffenbach Ай бұрын
Interesting as we had no idea that WMD railbuses were even used in the UK. According to Wikipedia only 5 have been made for the UK, based at Cambrdidge, shipped from Germany by ferry via Zeebrugge - Harwich. It seems they were planned for extensive testing. The undercarriage is exactly as per prototype on all pictures on the internet Sam. Not sure where you have your picture from(?) Anyway, very overpriced isn't it, oddly bizarrely designed and the crack is enough to send it straight back. The dark at both ends of the cabs is prototypical for driver safety. Meaning, in railbuses interior lights were unevenly lit that way. Cheerio.
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains Ай бұрын
Thanks Linda - the photo I showed was of the loco carrying this running number - which apparently wasn't even the same prototype! Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@mikeking2539
@mikeking2539 Ай бұрын
I have a BR green version of one of these, and what a pig it is to get the body off. You end up causing damage to the horns, and then have to mess about trying to unclip the hand rails either side of the doors. So I'll have fun fitting a decoder into the thing
@Blur4strike
@Blur4strike Ай бұрын
Classic Heljan locomotive released with issues and a hideously expensive price tag, does that company not know how to make a decent locomotive?
@agentM1991
@agentM1991 Ай бұрын
The mechanism gave me Class 17 vibes. A cool looking model though. Heljan. The company of lemons.
@user-uk8jr6zc9l
@user-uk8jr6zc9l Ай бұрын
It sems the model you received isn't worth much with that crack and to fit it with a DCC decoder you would need to damage it anyway. I don't think any engineer was involved in any aspect of the design because of basic mistakes made some of which you pointed out. It seems like it is a 20-ton bus with a 99hp engine, and the breaks are rubbing. Great assessment plus video and thanks again for taking the hit, (about $200.00), so we don't have to.
@Frowny13
@Frowny13 Ай бұрын
Ayo anyone notice the Aliexpress Porter Hustler at the very bottom of the ranking? 👀
@CullenRick
@CullenRick Ай бұрын
I don't think any WM machines went into departmental use. Two went to the NNR, two went to the K&WVR and one was scrapped for parts,
@epiendless1128
@epiendless1128 Ай бұрын
I'm not a train expert, but would you really _want_ the driver's cab illuminated? Wouldn't that make it difficult for the driver to see ahead?
@macnavi
@macnavi Ай бұрын
Only at a stand still, the driver would have the light on. When driving, it turns off. Some decoders even have a setting where you can automate that.
@Alpha-oo8
@Alpha-oo8 Ай бұрын
People must like heljan a lot. I hear some of their models sell out
@Ianshandle999
@Ianshandle999 Ай бұрын
Weight needed to keep it on rails in curves/points?
@SamsTrains
@SamsTrains Ай бұрын
Shouldn't need to be that heavy - not much that could go wrong with an 0-4-0 Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@Ianshandle999
@Ianshandle999 Ай бұрын
@@SamsTrains I have the rtc version from 2012, great runner, but not accurate and not worth the current price
@user-hu3vi7df2y
@user-hu3vi7df2y Ай бұрын
Great unbiased video. Like the fact that you always pay for your models. Unlike some of your rivals and also some of the model kits reviewers. Considering Heljan had a big display video on the Rails site recently, they really have let themselves down. Keep up the good work.. maybe some of these manufacturers will take notice!👍
@OliverT-qt1gn
@OliverT-qt1gn Ай бұрын
Just for laughs, I converted that British price to Canadian $...(Choke!) $296.00 CAD...! Good review, Sam...'orrible Cost...!
@KathrynPrentice-mj3kb
@KathrynPrentice-mj3kb Ай бұрын
Sam for a video can u rate the model brands
@KathrynPrentice-mj3kb
@KathrynPrentice-mj3kb Ай бұрын
Ik trying to start a serious railway but I'm not sure what brands to use
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