HELLBOUND: HELLRAISER II (1988) - WTF Happened to This Horror Movie?

A couple months ago, an episode of our WTF Happened to This Horror Movie video series dug into the making of Hellraiser III: Hell on Earth ( • HELLRAISER III (1992) ... ). With the newly released episode that's embedded above, we're returning to the Hellraiser franchise, this time to examine the making of Hellbound: Hellraiser II!
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#hellraiserii #review

[@Boogenhagen100]

"It is not hands that call us, it is desire". freaking killer dialogue.

[@kinroga]

@James Pietsch or desire to open it.

[@FlorisDVijfde]

Pinhead has the best lines here. "Kirsty....no more deals." "Your suffering will be legendary...even in hell."

[@shoesncheese]

"You wanted to see; you wanted to know! Now you know." - best female horror villain of all time.

[@jaywolfenstien]

"Oh shit!" -The Mute Girl.

[@2112res]

"We have eternity to know your flesh."

[@legendwrestler1mk1]

I actually liked Hellbound more than the first movie, maybe because it adds more "lore" and cenobites are on screen for more time compared to the first movie

[@ChaNnArD-mD]

This was my favorite Hellraiser movie..... remake 🤞

[@jasonbrown372]

read the comics

[@alejandrovillalba3143]

@callmecatalyst The characters that make the plot interesting are Frank and Julia. The cenobites just added an extra layer. And they are not boring, narratively speaking, they are perfectly fleshed out, and you can understand their motivations. But if you don't like well told stories...be my guest

[@74camarolt]

Same here! I know the 1st is the superior film, but the 2nd is my favorite of the two.

[@2112res]

@@74camarolt I can't imagine what makes the first superior. Perhaps if it hadn't been brutally edited.

[@StuntMan_Marq]

Hellbound has such an intriguing premise and is full of wonderfully horrific set pieces that are very well done considering it's budget and other restraints of the production. Not to mention the beautiful score from Christopher Young. However I think that it's always going to be difficult for any Hellraiser sequel to ever live up to the first film. The first film has such a great simplicity to it that none of the sequels have. In the Hellbound Heart novel it has basic themes such as Love, Lust, Betrayal, Obsession and Desire (to name the most basic) which are all things most people will immediately identify with as well as understand. I feel like you have to be a horror fan to sit through any of the sequels. The need to explain and expand the "mythology" will always be the detriment of any of the sequels and it will almost never work unless you go in a different direction and fully explore the themes I mentioned previously (Or other themes) that made Hellraiser & Hellbound Heart so good.

[@MuRpHyKn0t]

Always liked this movie but never understood how a brand new cenobite was so easily able to dispatch the others. Always made them seem less powerful from then on. Oh, sure they're scary, but if they make you into one of them you can take them out.

[@DragonTigerBoss]

Yeah, his level of power didn't feel earned.

[@jasonbrown372]

they spend eternity tearing each other apart. Heaven or Hell?

[@Blobby192]

Because the boss came to the phone

[@alexlacourse6897]

I wish that I loved this movie more, but it's always come off as being too fantastical for me compared to the first. It's actually kind of funny now that I think about it, most of Clive Barker's material revolves around the 'fantastique', but the Hellraiser film he was directly responsible for is probably the most grounded in the entire franchise.

[@alejandrovillalba3143]

Grounded? In which way is the first one not fantasy?

[@Spooky_515]

@@alejandrovillalba3143 right, a homeless man walks into fire, transforms into a bone dragon and flies off with lament configuration. So much for grounded lol dudes just throwing around a buzz word that seems to be over used the last few years

[@homelessjesse9453]

I love this movie. It's almost like Halloween 3: Season of the Witch in that it has its problems, it's not a perfect movie. But the premise and execution is so intriguing that it really elevates the movie.

[@tylerdecker6994]

@James Pietsch no shit lol 😂

[@rudeboy583]

@Whiteboy14 exactly

[@Blobby192]

Yeah i like Halloween 3

[@JKurayami]

I like the first 3 Hellraiser movies. I like them best in order 2,1,3. I also agree with her father not being in hell. The Cenobites are there as constables of sorts, to keep the codes and laws. If Larry was tricked into going there, like Tiffany was, they would have ushered him out.

[@alc4117]

guillermo del toro needs to reboot this franchise. Be it directing or writing it. His imagination and this movie are perfect for each other

[@allthemgoodstuff9111]

Too bad that Hellraiser isn't public because they keep making shit movies because they don't want to give up the right for new fresh minds to remake it

[@nightowl8363]

This is by far my favorite horror movie.... I love the Dr cenobite, the Labyrinth, and Leviathan. John Boorman's daughter played in it too

[@radiodarkhorse]

The slashing scene was cut on the VHS copy I had. I've only recently seen the uncut version on the Legend Channel and I was a little shocked at it tbh. The Channard scene getting tortured into a cenobite was shocking at the time too. Great film though with a great score

[@fooknagga9560]

as much as i like the first one I have to say Hellraiser 2 is my favorite. Can't beat how ambitious of a movie it is.

[@delugesofgrandeur]

"Fucking Weinsteins" is the best part of any of these episodes.

[@hullinstruments]

I really respect Roger Ebert’s review. I’m honestly too young to really remember him in his golden age..... I’m in my mid 30s… But I know he’s kind of seen as a shitty snobby dude sometimes back then… But I was usually pleasantly surprised and even if I didn’t agree with his reviews… I could at least respect them for giving an honest opinion… he would watch the nastiest shit or something that he absolutely had no interest in… But give a well thought out and fair review even if he didn’t like it. Instead of just bashing it as “evil“ like everyone else seems to do with these types of movies

[@MichaelCConstant]

Finally!!! Thank you so much!!!

[@steve8992]

quality content man, amazing channel!

[@LateCambrian]

I saw a Dr Channard doll in the window of a store in my neighborhood. When I came back to get it it was gone! I don't think the store even know what they had..

[@Rightround0846]

I can't imagine the remake being close to how good the original is especially with it being made in 2021.

[@Rightround0846]

@callmecatalyst 100% 80s horror is the best horror in my opinion because of that.

[@JoeGrizz1y]

I hope that I am not the only person to understand Roger Ebert as a terrible critique at times. A lot of reviews he has given to great movies are negative and make me ponder “did he even watch the movie”. In this case, the world building was there. The effects and budget were there. The story was there. It had a beginning middle and end while taking the audience on a wild ride. How are you going to categorize this film as a nothing plot story strung together with horrific effects. To me that sounds more like Texas Chainsaw Massacre. In the sense of that film it is a positive though. 😂 I don’t know. Roger Ebert sometimes has some terrible takes and wrong opinions toward a film. Definitely a critique that lets bias and personal emotion cloud his judgement.

[@bipolarewok]

I just finished watching it for the first time ever. I agree with Ebert, it's a mess

[@perishVS]

Classic

[@garytheprogressivelibertar560]

Its interesting hbo is making series out of hellraiser .

[@kostazarikos3383]

Can't wait for pinhead in Dbd

[@BuckarooBanzai84]

Truthfully, I'm not really a big fan of this franchise. However, to the film's credit, I gotta praise the screenwriter for the use of an autism-coded character in the form of Tiffany, especially at a time when that kind of thing was quite rare. (if indeed, that was their intention all along.) A small thank-you from the Neurodiversity community. =)

[@tammy6610]

I think 1 and 2 flow together seamlessly. Just like terminator 1 and 2.

[@edpliskin4088]

Phull pheleged Phukin phax

[@jasonblalock4429]

No mention of Christopher Young's absolutely massive amazing gothic score? It's one of the best things about the movie.

[@jasonvoorhees310]

The score for both Hellraiser and Hellbound are excellent 👌 👏

[@sidnew2739]

@@jasonvoorhees310 I own them both on vinyl. The first one had a cardboard cutout of the box as a bonus. These are the best OST I heard in my live, maybe except "Star Wars".

[@fredleggett923]

Problem is thematic scoring with memorable leitmotifs is all but dead at this point, so modern reviewers don't figure it into their retrospectives. Young's score for Hellbound is damn-near a masterpiece. His score for Priest is also outstanding. The original CD for Hellbound also came with the score for a little-known Richard Harris & Christopher Plummer thriller called Highpoint and even it is very sweeping and thematic. I sometimes wonder why today's films bother with a score since the vast majority are so pedestrian and forgettable.

[@GradyBroyles]

Have you heard the soundtrack that Coil was commissioned to make for Hellraiser? Legend has it that Clive ended up rejecting it because it was TOO dark. You gotta hear it.

[@jasonvoorhees310]

@@GradyBroyles I always thought coil never got the opportunity to cause Tony Randal quizzed them on film score and they knew nothing about it.

[@pearljam619]

I absolutely love the first two Hellraiser films and still watch them regularly.

[@sidnew2739]

Same here.

[@marvin469]

3 was nice too imo

[@sportclipshd7492]

@@marvin4694 was decent as well

[@grapeshot]

This is the last really decent Hellraiser movie. It all goes steeply downhill from here.

[@mauricerobinson3184]

I'll give 3 the benefit of the doubt. I've watched all 10 movies and I could've invested my time doing anything else.

[@badhippo]

Hellraiser 4: Bloodline, though a flawed film, should have been the last film they made in the series. It explained AN origin for the Lament Configuration puzzle boxes, and provided a fitting ending to the series with the release of the Elysium Configuration to close the doorways to Hell.

[@jasonbrown372]

@@mauricerobinson3184 read the comics

[@bigollameo]

Hellraiser Three and Hellraiser Four were both still watchable and enjoyable. Hellraiser Five and Hellraiser Six were steep drops, but they didn't fill you with a feeling that you needed to throw up. Everything after that has been pure garbage

[@alucard6919]

I think they should of capitalized on the last scenes in Hellraiser I where frank says "Jesus...wept." It could have made the story go in all sorts of inter-dimensional cosmic directions with relatable christian over tones.

[@mr.sand7899]

It's the only Hellraiser sequel that directly follows on from a previous movie.

[@xanderharris5814]

How sad is that? Seriously.

[@TheSlammurai]

It's the only Hellraiser sequel that's actually good. If only Bloodline had just set the entire movie in the past instead of jumping around different time periods, it would have been so much better.

[@ZombieDeathRace]

@@TheSlammurai Hey, Hellraiser 3 was pretty awesome.

[@alejandrovillalba3143]

@@ZombieDeathRace And it's also a direct sequel from its previous installment. So, the first commentary is wrong

[@jules-yi8rn]

LOVED this movie! Probably one of the best horror sequels ever made and still watchable today.

[@tommyzDad]

Gary Oldman as a Cenobite -- that would have been beyond awesome.

[@shanenephilim2727]

Nothing wrong with it, probably the best sequel we ever got.

[@jamesmorant1406]

This is the best Sequel in the Franchise they should have stopped at either part 2 or part 3 after that it fell off

[@PatTheBatmanFan]

They _definitely_ should have stopped after part 2.

[@jamesmorant1406]

@@PatTheBatmanFan I agree even though I liked part 3 and they could have stopped there cause how much more can u do with Pinhead story wise

[@planetfourthreich3022]

@@PatTheBatmanFan Or make it better -,-

[@thecoderofyoutube]

Being from the UK, I couldn't see this without massive cuts. A month or so later, my folks decided to take me to Paris for the 200th anniversary of the storming of the Bastille. As a teenager, I really couldn't have given less of a fuck as to why there was a million people on the Champs Elysee, so I found a cinema where I got to watch the whole thing in its mad, uncut, flawed but great glory in English with subtitles. Ah, the memories.

[@Patrick3183]

Innit.

[@2112res]

They don't keep everything in the US either. The MPAA is brutal. "Jesus wept!"

[@wigg1yscott554]

Your comment makes me wonder if I've seen the uncut version or not now. I've just re-watched 1,2 & 3 on Amazon Prime. I was going to watch the other movies next but I heard they're made by someone else. So perhaps not worth it.

[@corydeceased]

1 of, if not the, best sequels in Horror (imo)

[@benknighten2736]

Spot on

[@christianhuertas329]

Aliens is up there too

[@corydeceased]

@@christianhuertas329 you speak the truth

[@darkside7802]

I love old 80’s and 90’s backdrops. Like the image of the labyrinth.

[@JaguarCats]

In regards to Christy's father not appearing. It's interesting to note that in the original script Christy actually says something in relation to what Peter Atkins said. "I should of known he wouldn't be here! He was good!"

[@JnEricsonx]

As Pinhead said, "He is in his own hell child, and quite unreachable." In Pinheads mind, being in heaven is a hell, and as such, out of his grasp."

[@Holmesson]

Kirsty *

[@poindextertunes]

@@JnEricsonxfkn EPIC

[@JnEricsonx]

@@poindextertunes Thats at least how I viewed it.

[@afriend9428]

*This is actually good I don’t understand why so many people hate it so much?!?*

[@FlorisDVijfde]

I love it. My favorite horror movie to watch. It's a true horror feast. Bizarre, imaginative, atmospheric, wild, no holds barred, scary as f. Great sound effects and music. The depiction of hell is brutally awesome. I suppose some find it way over the top and particularly the stop motion scenes with Channard (great casting) are outdated. It's not entirely clear what Leviathan wants with Channard, it seems his intelligence and knowledge as a surgeon are valued, as well as his twisted curiosity. Channard as a cenobite is very over the top. Kirsty wearing Julia's skin at the end was rather out there as well. And yes I guess things like that also felt too random.

[@WompaStompaCyn]

Because the first half is a just a bunch of reused footage from the first movie. Fanboys like to just remember the labyrinth stuff and act like they can't fathom why anyone wouldn't like it. Even this video completely ignores the first half.

[@ickbar]

Not heard much hate against it to be honest. I liked it, it brought something new to Pinhead, although I do prefer the mystery over finding out he was just a normal guy.

[@alejandrovillalba3143]

@@WompaStompaCyn @Cyndrus First half is reused footage from the first movie? Seriously? The retelling by Kirsty of what happened to her family might last 5 or 6 minutes at best. That is the only reused footage and the movie is more than an hour and a half long. You might dislike the movie all you like, but you have to use better arguments than something that is objectively wrong as you did to criticise it. You could try to actually watch the movie instead of criticising a straw man

[@newdefsys]

Ebert said it best, There is no plot. It is just a collection of scenes stringed together with no sense of story.

[@pdzombie1906]

Pinhead: "Your suffering will be legendary, even in hell!" Me: Please don't leave me alone with Harvey Weisntein... F*ing Weinsteins!!!

[@necrophagiakc]

Seen this in the theater in 88' tripping on mescaline AWESOME my favorite part they edited the gore slightly didn't see the uncut until months later on VHS....2, 1 and 3 are the best 3 in order.

[@sporff]

I seem to be in the minority but I found this movie really boring. The visuals and imagery were good but it seemed like a random unconnected series of events happening and I was not invested in the characters at all. It was like someone took a bunch of horror shorts and slapped them together with no real plan or direction.

[@jasonblalock4429]

Yeah, I was a huge Hellraiser fan back in the day, and I always had pretty mixed feelings about Hellbound. It had so many good ideas, and it starts off well, but the story kind of falls apart once they actually get to Hell. There's no real flow or rhythm to the editing, just semi-random gore scenes that feel like they don't have any connective tissue turning them into a story. (Ironic, given how much connective tissue is on display among the cast...)

[@deanolium]

The other problem is that Hell wasn't really that, well, Hellish. Like in the first film it conjures up all kind of ideas of what it could be like, but nope - it's just polystrene emptiness and some stone bed-slabs. Also the idea of Leviathan just being a floating open puzzle box just doesn't chime with me. I agree that it's got great set-pieces and there is an attempt at a bigger story but everyone's motivations are really lacking that just robs it of narrative drive. Still better than the sequels.

[@sporff]

@@deanolium Good points. I didnt even consider that hell wasnt scary or freaky looking. This movie has so much potential on paper.

[@2112res]

@@deanolium I totally agree about Leviathan. I did like the writhing bloody bodies on the slabs though

[@KROMO50]

Great movie

[@LFC303606ACID]

"The mind is a labyrinth, ladies and gentlemen, a puzzle. And while the paths of the brain are plainly visible, its ways deceptively apparent, its destinations are unknown. Its secrets still secret. And, if we are honest, it is the lure of the labyrinth that draws us to our chosen field to unlock those secrets. Others have been here before us and have left us signs, but we, as explorers of the mind, must devote our lives and energies to going further to tread the unknown corridors in order to find ultimately, the final solution. We have to see, we have to know... "

[@shoesncheese]

"You wanted to see; you wanted to know! Now you know."

[@alfpert2022]

@@shoesncheese And here it is….. leviathan

[@2112res]

@@alfpert2022 And....what a letdown

[@alfpert2022]

@@2112res 🤣😂🤣

[@unlimitedrabbit]

If there was ever a movie that I could go back in time and give it a humongous budget, it's Hellbound: Hellraiser II.

[@theeholygoalie]

I feel it would be a great disservice, if the new remake didn't feature a Harvey Weinstein character being taken to hell.

[@Patrick3183]

Hell will be Andrew Cuomo and his friends from Time’s Up who purposely ignored his behavior

[@kri249]

I think Roger Ebert was so overwhelmed by the horror and gore he missed the point of the film. The first film wasn't specifically about the cenobites and the puzzle box, they were the driving force of the main plot. That being Julias infidelity and killing people to restore her lover. It's kind of like the Frighteners where you have serial killer lovers with a supernatural aspect. The second film was about the cenobites and hell. Dr Chanard was delving into the occult and was sacrificing patients to discover the other side, and he found Julia. But it expanded on the identities of the cenobites and revealed more of hell. This was a perfect sequel.

[@sourpatchkid394]

I hate the mpaa

[@eddie7664]

I love Hellbound as much as the first one....criminally underrated!

[@elphaba4674]

I love how pin head wasn't even supposed to be the big bad! It was supposed to be Julia from the first film! She was naaasty! 👌

[@ascensionindustries9631]

I f--king love this movie. It's also the first soundtrack I ever bought.

[@christopherdaniel5919]

One of those rare sequels that is actually better than the original.

[@christopherdaniel5919]

@pete best If you say so.

[@zachf4877]

No way it's better. The original had such a tighter story. However I think Hellraiser II succeeds in further developing that world Barker only gave us a glimpse of in the first film. I love the interpretation of hell. Such a waste the rest of the series didn't follow the same path

[@christopherdaniel5919]

@@zachf4877 I have every Clive Barker book. Weaveworld, Imajica, & The Great & Secret Show could use a film adaptation. (If it's done right.) Can we agree on that?

[@brandonmangino3579]

Is anybody ever going to address the FACT that Julia died on the staircase where Frank stabbed her and not on the fucking mattress!

[@RaimarLunardi]

It's well known that _for horror_ at least, you disregard Roger Ebert completely

[@alejandrovillalba3143]

Roger Ebert was a prick who thought too high of himself. He looked down on everything horror, but when the time came for him to do the writing, the only thing he could do was a movie with lots of naked girls

[@josephmassaro]

Why don't we just skip professional critics and call it a day?

[@robertdochter277]

There are times I like Ebert's reviews. This wasn't one of them. Also, F-ing Weinstein's!

[@mike7652]

Ebert is a pretentious dong.

[@gnussyflarkin]

Ebert always had interesting points. What made him a great critic was I could totally understand his point of view, even when I disagreed with it. I think his description of this film is mostly spot on - particularly considering all the cuts that were made. I still enjoyed it, but I felt it was more of a visual and grotesque spectacle than it was a purpose-driven story.

[@TheSlammurai]

I started disregarding his opinions when he ignorantly stated that video game aren't art.

[@gnussyflarkin]

@@TheSlammurai - I love video games and largely agree that they aren't (yet) art. 95% at least. I think a lot of games have artistic elements, but few games in and of themselves - by virtue of existence - are art. Though I think they are slowly getting there. At the time he said that statement (mid 2000s, if memory serves correctly), I think he was absolutely correct. I can't think of a single game pre-2005 that I would consider a thought-provoking work of art.

[@milesthehousecollection4153]

Hellbound is probably my fave horror of all time. I was obsessed with Hellraiser as a kid. My mum managed a video store and I got to see it around 1986..i must have been six seven years old but I was frantic when I saw the big poster for Hellbound at the ciniworld theater. I was heartbroken I couldn't go and see it as wasn't old enough so just stodd outside the theater starting at the poster. I wasn't disappointed at all with the movie. I think it's a masterpiece. Clive barker hasn't had much luck with his movies as they alway run into some kind of shit that let's them down. And the fact the budget got cut for this sequal must have been a real pisser. Along with the censors cutting a lot of the gore out. In England the VHS has so much gore cut out of it. It wasn't until the dvd release many years later that I got to see the real deal. I really wish they would sort out the rights to this movie and hand it back over to Clive barker to complete the story properly.. Bring back Julia and kirsty... Its his vision. He must be heartbroken seeing what has become of his masterpiece.

[@dklounge7082]

Will we ever get a Black Sheep for Nightbreed?

[@Greydevil82]

That or a WTF Episode on it

[@mrowley7300]

I don't think Ebert liked ANY horror movies

[@matthewnicholas6365]

Channard was and still is absolutely horrifying

[@Spooky_515]

Dr channard was terrifying as a kid, I loved it

[@lowket]

Best in series. Hands down.

[@faust13301]

Fantastic vid. I'm a longtime Hellbound fan and it's nice to see it still get's some of the accolades it deserves.

[@SoninjaX]

This movie was severely limited by the technology at the time.

[@chrisc448]

Garth Merenghi's Darkplaces makes a LOT more sense seeing these interviews with Barker

[@jonathanreynolds1797]

It was mostly based on Shaun Hutson … but I’m sure Clive is in there ….

[@WhiskeyBrewer]

You and he were...buddies

[@VacuumJockey]

On a completely unrelated note, Garth Marengi's Darkplace is the eighth wonder of the world.

[@jgrillo638]

Hellraiser II is my favorite in the franchise

[@phillipmontano7664]

I think this is the best movie in the hellraiser series it's gorry but still nothing compared to some current day horror films I like the way Greek mythology has been incorporated in to the story with the labyrinth

[@user-dr2yz8um3d]

I remember watching this back at my second house over a decade ago Turns 35! This one truly has a more darker tone than the last one which in a way matches director Tony Randal's mindset Clive Barker executive produces this time but thankfully this has almost the same spirit acting more like a dark fantasy It's nice to see the Cenobites again in top form seeing how their own vices lead to them becoming demons themselves and we get more insight into Pinhead's origin The blood and gore doesn't disappoint and the practical effects are top notch making the agony interesting There's still the ideas of corruption by lust, pleasure and pain being indistinguishable, knowing too much is dangerous, is there more to learn?, we pursue forbidden pleasures through fascination Ashley Laurence brings a lot more to her role, the mythos grows even bigger with a cosmic hellscape, and I really like Tiffany by Imogen Boorman who has an innocent quality to her as she's one of the few not actively seeking the box The budget is bigger despite new world pictures having to cut the budget due to financial issues allowing for a bigger labyrinth environment The sequel managed to expand the characters and the mythos without having to repeat things being very operatic thanks to Randal's input representing a fully more realized production 'Hellraiser 2' is the only chapter worth checking out of 9 abysmal sequels that serves as a final swan song in terms of creativity

[@cyberprompt]

This was the one that always stuck with me. Both the bloody corpse being reformed and the version of hell, kinda like a darker Eye of Sauron. But also a bit like the MCP in Tron.

[@michaelwilson5114]

Tony Randall got dark after "The Odd Couple". Oscar must have broke him.

[@canny3d]

When I saw Hellraiser II in the theaters when it first came out, there was a lengthy transformation scene of Dr. Channard (30+ seconds). When I bought the initial VHF release, that scene was totally cut. Later DVD releases had shorten version of the scene (merely a few seconds). I also searched youtube and there are only the shortened version. The full length version of this spectacular scene was never to be seen again, aside from the theatrical release.

[@laspector]

When the doctor gets that patient to literally skin himself alive--well, that fucked with my head royally. To this day that scene freaks me out!

[@mariomadison7390]

The doctor wanted to go there that's why he accumulated all the boxes and subsequent paraphernalia...he just couldn't open the box had to be someone else so he could enter the back door via Julia he planned it all that's why he had the matress

[@smithgdwg]

Yeah never really understood why Larry would go to Hell in the first film. Made more sense that it was a trick by Frank.

[@chriscostello117]

It goes with out saying that " Fucking Weinsteins " is a common thread in the Joblo work place. Here here

[@sassyd8738]

Loved part 2 was so into the different boxes Kyle was looking at I so wish they had in part 3 had someone asking studying those boxes and got the three that the doctor had would have been nice Hellraiser 1 n 2 was good and the hellraiser franchise started out excellent sadly it fell some but i still wish the store on the different boxes were told and if they had different pinheads so be it but no nice to show different ones and dont give no story on them

[@louismartinezjr9617]

I remember a scene where pinhead and open neck are in dr garb and they walk through the hospital ward giving puzzleboxes to the patients. It was in the theatrical release that I remember seeing but was later cut out.

[@HorrorMetalMaestroRedrusty66]

Hellraiser 1 and 2 are absolute phenomenal classics, if only the MPAA and studio crap had let them be what they could have been. As with so many movies, especially horror movies ravaged by the ridiculous MPAA

[@mattcup8541]

The doctor is in.

[@sidnew2739]

"SHIT!"

[@killbot_factory]

all I remember about this movie was being confused by the plot and totally repulsed at a sequence where a crazy dude is slicing himself up on a mattress. oh and something about a floating diamond thing and hell looking like some low budget escher landscape.

[@mike7652]

Is that all?

[@killbot_factory]

​@@mike7652 😂yeah and the girl is in a mental asylum with some other gal, and the doc is seduced by the mom from the first one. and you see Pinhead in human form. so I guess I remember the whole thing.

[@tomdadada]

2:39 Lieutenant Gorman had quite a mighty boosh in his civilian days!

[@thewhitepanther6052]

I watched this film after watching this and i can say that the scene with the doctor handing the razor to the mental patient on the mattress was brutal and very hard to watch. I have a strong stomache but i feel others may easily habe felt sick.

[@GradyBroyles]

I really loved this sequel. ScrewHarvey Weinstein.

[@RBKeown]

Love this movie.

[@alucard6919]

What got me hooked on Hellraiser was Franks last scene where he says "jesus... wept....hehehe" then gets ripped apart. I was like "WTF does that mean!!!! What does that have to do with anything!??! I need an explanation!"

[@VacuumJockey]

Yeah! Always loved that line! To this day I'm still not sure what the hell Frank meant by that! Maybe that Jesus died, Frank won't, and big Jay was a pussy for crying? Who knows!

[@alucard6919]

@@VacuumJockeyI thought the cenobites had something to do with the suffering of Jesus? I dont know, but i thought that would of been a great direction to go.

[@GilbertSyndrome]

@@VacuumJockey It's just a saying. Probably a little poke at religious humour from Clive.

[@2112res]

My thought is that in contrast to Jesus weeping on the cross....

[@darrenyoung3102]

This movie was and still is phenomenal. A perfect second chapter to the first movie. I did wonder why the Chatterer looked different though, that left us all guessing. But I love this movie to this day.

[@Blobby192]

Maybe he reached his final form

[@taylormade9971]

The detail to the costumes and makeup still shock me in 2023

[@Bunny2319b]

Probably the best one out of all the Hellraiser movies.

[@dylaningo3065]

I love the original but hellbound was always my favorite!

[@DW-nb2zc]

The first three Hellraiser movies some badass shit.Pinhead is a horror icon right with Freddy,Jason and Michael Myers,he's actually my favorite of the group

[@priehowell8825]

WTF are you on about? Hellbound is a classic

[@ericpanissidi6761]

I loved this as much as 1st but in a different way.

[@eldersillusion]

The effects and story stand up still scare kids diluted by straight to dvd movies

[@DanSami-ho5vq]

I actually like this better than the first movie

[@MrMegatron85]

I adore this movie.

[@dudelebowskithe2nd373]

"And to think...I hesitated"

[@howardpower]

One of the best horror flicks of all time.

[@Leo-V]

I loved it don't know what y'all taking about

[@MikeD974]

This is my favorite hellraiser movie it was so unquie still love it

[@jevinday]

I fucking love this movie. I actually only saw Hellraiser and Hellraiser 2 a couple years ago (I'm 29). The 2nd one has so many awesome practical effects. I love the Cenobite that chases them down the halls, I don't know what it's called. Is the 3rd one worth watching?

[@sidnew2739]

No.

[@slimmccoy8863]

It's pretty divisive, people seem to either love it or hate it. It's worth watching to form your own opinion. For the record: I liked Pinhead's monologues, and the expansion of the lore.

[@noone8785]

I never once realized that Chatterer had eyes in Hellbound. I don't know how to feel now

[@Blobby192]

He hadn't reached final form

[@eduardo_corrochio]

The first movie was such a startling piece of work, unlike most anything else that had come down the horror turnpike. And then the sequel was so much bigger in scope and setting that it was nearly overwhelming. Everything became grandiose, even the music was more bombastic and operatic. I really enjoyed Doctor Channard, a fascinating villain with nefarious motives and no morals whatsoever. And the actor who played him has this physical presence that is so imposing; it gave the film weight. Kenneth Cranham reminds me of a James Bond villain. Oh, and the whole thing in that Leviathon documentary about the character's last name ... I much prefer Channard to Malahide. The former sounds sophisticated and almost innocuous (it doesn't matter to me that it's a blend of the first and last name of the doctor who did the first heart transplant), while the name Malahide from the first draft of the script is blatantly an attempt to make people think of "bad skin". It's not as clever as writer Peter Atkins thought. Have to say: this movie and this entire franchise is a colossal disappointment in that it did not give movie audiences what potentially could have been the greatest female icon in scary cinema. I know, fans favored Pinhead, but I wonder what might have been if Julia had been made into the big baddie. A moot point, admittedly. The series would go down the crapper rapidly anyway, after Hellbound. I'll never forget my first viewing of H2 because that reveal of Chatterer as having been a mere boy when he was changed, that really struck me and was so surprising. Bit of a jaw dropper moment. But, of course, the biggest thing in the movie remains the mattress sequence. A guaranteed wince inducer, that part. :D Ghastly! Oh, and initially I was dismayed that the Channard Cenobite was able to destroy the other three Cenobites very easily, dispatching them like they were no challenge at all.

[@Jaundice__]

I think this is the best of the series, the story, and the scenery is better than the first . When I first saw it I felt uneasy for weeks. The scenes of the leviathan over the labyrinth.

[@2112res]

And then you're like all black and white....Nah, I thought Leviathan was the weakest part.

[@sassyd8738]

@@2112res thoughr they version of pinhead via doctor was kinda lame with flowers and fingers im like come on now didnt make it better in part 3 is when i knew they were falling off