Hellboy - What's the Difference?

[@GabrielKnightz]

Del Toro is one of those creators who genuinely tries to understand the spirit of a project. I hope one day he makes a live action remake of the Gargoyles.

[@robertmaniac]

Wow I didn't knowI need a Guillermo del Toro version of Gargoyles.

[@GabrielKnightz]

It's right up his street too, sentient, eloquent "monsters", deep lore and history rich in Arthurian legends, one of The most charming animated bad guys that can put Lex Luthor to shame, haunting visuals. All of it set in a gentle hearted kids cartoon with deep, dark overtones. If the studios let him do it his way.......i don't know how to type that finger tips kiss thing that tv chefs do but That!

[@robertombricen7966]

Oh yes please, the magic on that!

[@alpacapines8553]

Holy fuck I need that

[@XkuronekosamaX]

Despite the visual accuracy of the film I think del Toro failed to transmit the "spirit", as you say, of the comic, in the first Hellboy film there are plenty of errors protraying the characters and more than a handfull of problems in the script. The FBI agent has more time on screen than Abe and it is insufferable, Hellboy itself is very bad written in the movie, way too childish for a near 50 year old man, fuck that scene with the kid, the cookies and the milk on the rooftop where the kid advices him is the worst "character development" moment I ever seen

[@my88110]

In the comics the public are aware of Hellboy, but his adventures often take place in hidden, ancient temples and strange forrests. Whereas, in the Del Toro movies Hellboy's identity is initially secret, but he operates mostly in New York city.

[@zionleach3001]

That's something I always wondered how does the overall world treat supernatural creatures? You don't see them socializing with humans. Are they just unaware of the supernatural.

[@michaelkelley2727]

being secretive makes more sense. working in the shadows, but at the same time saving lives

[@Contevent]

One more thing. Abe Sapiens. n the movie, he is a quirky, awkward empath with no fighting capabilities. In the comics, he's an action badass taking down dire threats on his own. He and Hellboy have roughly the same relationship, Hellboy saved him from the Bureau's experimentation, like he saved all sapient "abnormals" the Bureau found, and there is a mutual respect and understanding. In the comic book though, Abe is also Hellboy's disciple and the reason he stays in the Bureau at first. While Hellboy treats him as an equal and his own man, Abe admire him as a mix of a father figure and a moral compass.

[@jarredmorris9749]

yeah Abe is way better in the comics imo

[@Contevent]

@@jarredmorris9749 I completely agree. I love movie Abe mind you, he's just not the same character. I love the fishman commando.

[@jarredmorris9749]

@@Contevent he's definitely an endearing character for sure. I love his stoic nature and overall look in the comics more. Gotta love Doug Jones though

[@TakaS013]

There's nothing wrong with taking bits and pieces from the comic books and turning it into a badass movie.

[@CarReckless]

You forgot to mention that Hellboy's character differs a lot from the comics . In the movies, Hellboy is somewhat a teenager , trying to find a place in this world . In the comics he is an adult that doesn't talk much and basically deals with more adult themes .

[@CarReckless]

Yeah now that I think about it , I phrased that really poorly . But movie hellboy does quite differ from the comics .

[@andresanguianozuniga6798]

The attitude yes...the thing of fightning against he is the key of the Apocalypse not.

[@laciehinds7768]

Dr. Warwee that’s what the reboot is missing, also...no, he doesn’t even fit the teen persona :T

[@baonkang5990]

Lol he does have that I am too old for this shit look in the comics

[@panelsandbars]

Glad somebody else said his! Big fan of the movies, but the characterization is completely different between the two mediums.

[@dairekirby610]

Yes my boy hellboy is finally getting a what's a difference

[@sarlon51]

Hellboy just won't be the same without Rom Pearlman as Red. This is the perfect example of a reboot that nobody wanted or asked for.

[@Lazypackmule]

Fans have wanted a true adaptation since the original movies came out and didn't do it justice Whether the new movie ends up being that remains to be seen, but still

[@Gadget-Walkmen]

@@Lazypackmule LOL What? These movies ARE a true adaption of the source martial while making the right changes for the films as it DID do it justice. You have to be talking about yourself here and yourself only as the Hellboy movies are critically acclaimed films that people love!

[@asturianix9820]

Hellboy is waaaay more immature in the movies than in the comics.

[@ilikestuffandstuffhi]

honestly depends on which book you read, the books set earlier in the time show a different hellboy to the one we initially got

[@eastjm80]

Brendan Kollman this isn’t true. Even in the current series of hellboy set in the 1950’s where he is a new agent he still isn’t as immature as he is in the movies. Hellboy has never acted like he does the the del toro movies and as a fan of hellboy it makes it really hard to watch

[@LaurenceQuint]

True. The bratty teenage Hellboy from the movies (which is also more or less the reboot film version, too) is not the Hellboy from the comics.

[@Todie85]

That he is- in an effort to make him more relatable.

[@NeutralGuyDoubleZero]

@@Todie85 Making a chatacter immature and bratty doesnt automatically equal more relatable nor are they mutually exclusive traits.

[@eman2863]

Surprised you guys didn't mention how Abe is basically a new character in the movie, since in the comics he's not the quite soft type with a psychic touch, he's a just a fish that with his wits, his fists and sometimes a gun, which makes his the BPRD's second best field agent behind Hellboy

[@Gadget-Walkmen]

To say he's "just a fish" is a MASSIVE lie as a psychic with paranormal skills and knowledge to handle threats. And to say he's " BPRD's second best field agent behind Hellboy" is NO small feat considering how massively skilled Hellboy is!

[@julianxamo7835]

@@Gadget-Walkmen He's not a psychic in the comics at all

[@Gadget-Walkmen]

@@julianxamo7835 Regardless, he’s not just a regular fish AT ALL.

[@julianxamo7835]

@@Gadget-Walkmen He's a regular agent guy that just looks like a fish and can breathe underwater No psychic powers or any other powers that's what OC meant I think

[@Gadget-Walkmen]

@@julianxamo7835 that’s not a “regular agent” at all. It’s truly not and especially when you can match up to Hellboy. The movie gave him more powers to make him more distinct.

[@EternalRoman]

One thing that helped in the original HELLBOY films is that Comic Creator and Artist Mike Mignola worked closely with Del Toro so that the film and characters felt like the comic counterparts. Mignola himself said that he based Hellboy from Ron Perlman himself and couldn't think on anyone else playing the role.

[@michaelkelley2727]

he based hellboy off his dad not ron Perlman

[@EternalRoman]

@@michaelkelley2727 Actually if you look up the behind the scenes of Hellboy, Mike Mignola said that when he drew Hellboy, the character was looking like Ron Perlman, and he had made the comment about it. So when he and Del Toro were working on casting the role, both of them said "Ron Perlman". Look it up, those are not my words, they are both Mignola's and Del Toro's words.

[@geardog24]

Sorry reboot, but Ron Perlman is the only red guy I know.

[@uglywerewolf3473]

"Red rocket yum" -geardog2.... lol

[@diegom-a7970]

Damn right

[@jarrodedson5441]

@@diegom-a7970 question

[@hewhogoesevenfurtherbeyond9296]

What's gives a new guy a chance, cast judgment after the movie

[@jarrodedson5441]

@@hewhogoesevenfurtherbeyond9296 try to tell that to my friend

[@labyrinthgirl17]

And this is why Del Toro and Perlman made the best kind of Hellboy movie, they took inspiration from the source and made something badass with it. This other movie looks like something Michael Bay would've filmed. -_-

[@felixknighton4805]

The hellboy series has been my favorite movie series since I was legit 4 yrs old, and Del Toro is definitely my favorite director in the world.

[@williamparcell9197]

That reboot looks really generic. Like they promised it'd be dark and gritty but instead they showed the same tone as the last two films but without the charm and fun.

[@user-jv7gr1jb3r]

That's because it's got SJW politics inserted into the movie.

[@dren5810]

@@user-jv7gr1jb3r huh?? Please stop lol

[@FlashakaViolet]

This

[@robbiethomson2337]

@@user-jv7gr1jb3r DURRRRR SJW'S ARE RUININ' MOVIES DURRRRRRR

[@user-jv7gr1jb3r]

@@robbiethomson2337 I'M A SMART TART BECAUSE I TAKE JOKES THAT AREN'T THAT SERIOUS OR PERSONAL TOO SERIOUSLY AND PERSONALLY.

[@fkmui03]

Del Toro is amazing 😯

[@half-lifescientist1991]

joe rock in ikr I love benicio del toro

[@neftalicruzluciano]

@@half-lifescientist1991 lololol

[@_uncommon_sins_7867]

Half-Life Scientist no no no no no no, BEINICIO Del toro is an actor, and GUILLERMO Del toro is a movie director. Learn the difference

[@half-lifescientist1991]

@@_uncommon_sins_7867 Hey, did you see that joke fly over your head? Oh, you must have missed it. Oh well.

[@negativenigga5156]

@@_uncommon_sins_7867 you the one who doesnt understand the joke

[@captassassin5680]

Ron Pearlman will always be Hellboy, to me. #notmyHellboy

[@PedroSilvahf]

To me he is Hellbae

[@KakashiHatake-sq2ik]

Tell me your kidding because im bad at reading sarcasm

[@alexmansfield3268]

Lady Leomon except that never happened in the comics. That whole situation doesn’t make any fucking sense. Your wishing for something that completely deviates from the fucking source material

[@Ketharuil]

@@LadyLeomon he didn't want to retire. He wanted to do the third one with Del Toro. He's pretty upset about it all.

[@purity_2428]

he disgraced hell boy simple

[@ajd4909]

"Big man himself stayed largely the same" Literally wut man This is 100% untrue He went from a grizzled, quiet, melancholic old warrior to a one liner-quiping teen They even mention he's like a teen in the movies

[@CaseNumber00]

If anyone liked Hellboy, I highly recommend watching two animated works where Ron and Liz eeprise their roles. I Believe they are called HellboyL Sword of the Storm and HB Blood and Iron.

[@greent26tube]

One of the best edited channels I’ve seen...thanks for the great content!

[@HAL-oj4jb]

In the movie, the hellboy comics still exist, and are based on rumours about him. So, just like Del Toro took the imagery of the comics, in the movie universe the comic creators seem to have taken the few stories and sightings of their real hellboy and made a comic out of it! Mind = blown

[@lockecole3726]

6:12 I really shouldn't have laughed as hard as I did from hearing that stock frog noise, but here we are.

[@bearboy4751]

5:32 Roger the homunculus appear in the Second film. Though Only as a easter egg in the background.

[@andresanguianozuniga6798]

Really?!! I will see it again...

[@RogueDragon05]

He's actually in both

[@SixSwansVodka]

Do you know what scene?

[@nikmunoz4177]

I’ve always loved the original hellboy so the this new one BETTER BE GOOD

[@user-jv7gr1jb3r]

It's got SJW politics in the new one.

[@nikmunoz4177]

Odd Apprentice NOOOOO

[@bearboy4751]

@@user-jv7gr1jb3r What? how exactly?

[@TheSpaceJockey91]

@@user-jv7gr1jb3r The villain is a woman. It's far from being a SJW project.

[@user-jv7gr1jb3r]

@@TheSpaceJockey91 In SJW world she will be the tragic hero. Mrs. Understood to be exact. Hellboy and it's happy theme put the R rated theme in the back seat. Female ghostbuster humor.

[@user-eq8ww1gr6v]

This is like a live action extension of the comic, In the same way that a new author might come up with new stories but hold on to the feel of the characters and the world.

[@HAL-vm3wn]

Could you please do: The Planet Of The Apes, Cloud Atlas, The Godfather and Forrest Gump ?

[@jasonblalock4429]

Cloud Atlas would be an awesome analysis, because the Wachowskis were so faithful to the book in many ways, but completely re-structured it.

[@user-jv7gr1jb3r]

I'm more amazed how those titles originated from books. Books, gotta love 'em.

[@h.b.smith_writer]

I think Shutter Island would be a good analysis too.

[@epicgamer2727]

The editing on this episode especially those scenes in the panels is fire

[@justahobo2823]

this was the best editing work i have seen in a while , hell yeah

[@mitchellneu]

Thanks for doing this one! I have always been curious of what a WTD on this would be like and you did not disappoint in the slightest. I am also curious as to what this new reboot will be like, and will give it a shot(although no one, repeat NO ONE, can replace Ron Perlman's pitch perfect performance in my opinion.)

[@alexmansfield3268]

Mitch Neu but Ron pearlman was nothing like the comic hellboy either read the comics or don’t talk out your ass

[@colinferguson7400]

The head in the jar in the Hellboy books is Herman von Klempt, not the same guy as Werner von Krupt. Von Krupt dies shortly after the summoning of Hellboy, and von Krupt pops up in stories all the way until the present day.

[@rogueprince1341]

Hell yeah I cant wait for the new hell boy.

[@MYnerdSELF]

I just started the hellboy comics and tbh....this movie will always be my favorite hellboy

[@thomasgrindol9124]

Please do a What’s the Difference for How to Train Your Dragon.

[@mayhemthepsychopath]

Thomas Grindol what

[@Scroteydada]

We'd be here forever. It's nothing like the book.

[@jacobwaters1147]

So in April are you guys gonna do Infinity Gauntlet (Comic) vs. Infinity War (Film)?

[@JBryc3]

Jacob Waters no

[@jacobwaters1147]

Jordan Bryce are you Cinefix? I don’t think so

[@fightingmedialounge519]

Why wouldn't they do infinity war the comic.

[@jacobwaters1147]

In preparation for Endgame

[@brycevo]

What the Hell is the difference, Boy?!

[@andresanguianozuniga6798]

Best quotes on internet.

[@djspookyty]

The Hellboy movie is what introduced me to other comic companies besides Marvel and I'm still thankful for that tbh

[@dodgersdoon1130]

Please do bellboy 2, it's my favorite

[@christianpelle1056]

Cinefix can you please do what the difference between hellboy 2 the golden army and the book

[@shibby0690]

Perfect timing guys. I just watched this film last night! It’s like you read my mind.

[@JoeEnglandShow]

The homonculus can actually be seen in a glass case in the background at one point in the film.

[@MalcolmMonteith]

Great episode - thanks for this! I read Seed of Destruction recently and then had to go back and watch Hellboy again! Mignola is one of the greats.

[@awsomeman350]

Kinda went light on this one didn't you? Didn't mention a lot or things that were different, mainly the tone. You could have gone more in depth about it, the graphic novels are pretty dense with heavy themes.

[@noaboahQR]

Ik expections are high the last two were absolutely amazing, but I'm going to hold judgement until the movie comes out. Who knows it could be really good!

[@ZiKoN22]

good job. I like the movies. I love the comics. Hellboy is my favourite comic book character. the story and the art are like nothing else in the industry and is such a breath of fresh air from the usual DC and Marvel stuff.

[@TEKKENKING23]

I would love to see a what's the difference hellboy 2 Golden army video.

[@DonutTree]

Happy New Years CineFix ! Have a great 2019 love your channel 🎊💜

[@lukeboyer1594]

You should do a video on Hellboy 2: The Golden Army.

[@AlexandriaZubia]

would you guys consider doing a vid on The secret of Nimh - What's the difference episode?

[@Jean_grey159]

Hi! I just wanted to say this channel is awesome, and I hope everyone has a great day or night 🙂

[@warmac88]

Great video bruh!

[@SpaceLice]

The issue with this adaptation is the character of hellboy. He isn’t supposed to be an edgy teen. He’s supposed to be a grizzled old man who’s quiet and professional.

[@028TuvaluanHero]

I was gonna write it until I read the description. Happy New years fam

[@matheussberant]

I looked for this exact video last week! So glad is here :)

[@Twiggymaster666]

I just hope the reboot is darker (like the graphic novel) unlike the trailer

[@jerichocoppett5404]

I was rewatching the movie and noticed Hell Boy has hooves. Not feet as seen on the comic Myers is looking at as he first meets Hellboy

[@sicktoons5788]

your channel used to be my favorite channel with home made movies

[@poweroffriendship2.0]

*_For some reason, I really missed the 2004 version of Hellboy. It's better than the 2019 version._*

[@SkarrGaming]

You haven't seen it yet.

[@TheSpaceJockey91]

Maybe see it before judging it?

[@jarrodedson5441]

@@TheSpaceJockey91 exactly my Friend is doing the exact same he won't see the new one because it looks different and a joking matter

[@poweroffriendship2.0]

@@TheSpaceJockey91 Well, I really hope the 2019 version will be okay but I'm afraid it sucks badly.

[@andresanguianozuniga6798]

I don't know...the trailer bring a really bad first impression.

[@TheCreepypro]

one of my favorite movies from one of my favorite directors glad he knows how to do great adaptations

[@gerty306]

DRIVE - What's the Difference? Nicolas Winding Refn's film between James Sallis's book, please!

[@GuilhermeSantos-wy8kf]

It's about time. Great comparison.

[@unlimited-edge]

I love how everyone is already dissing on the reboot despite the fact that the movie isn’t out yet The trailer didn’t leave the best impression... but still

[@nameredacted1448]

You guys should do much more of these

[@TwistedTB0ne]

I was excited when they announced a reboot but after seeing the direction they chose to take I'm not really a fan. I'll def go see it when it comes out but I honestly really liked the original films.

[@orinanime]

I hope you guys eventually cover the sequel and the two animated movies

[@NeonluxDJWorks]

Great video! I just can't help but laugh at all the "I like this one better than the new one"... Sure... because the new one is already on cinemas... right... I guess I lost my nostalgia glasses somewhere, somehow.

[@johntabler349]

One of the movies I get out every so often when I just want to have fun watching a movie

[@Justaguy12346]

Heard 2006 and got super confused lol I remembered it being around longer, turns out it was released in 2004. Tiny goof, makes sense now!

[@BloodRedDestiny]

Hellboy was one of the first comic book movies I ever saw - probably younger than I should have, but I still loved it xD

[@christopherdalan8124]

Roger, the homunculus, does appear in the movie - albeit standing motionless in a BPRD display case.

[@tsohgallik]

Robert C Acunas Devil You Know Trailer was the Hellboy trailer we should have seen, so check it out!

[@Zap717]

There's a direct line pulled from the comics as well, though who says it is reversed. In the movie, Hellboy says, "That's gonna hurt in the morning." To which Abe replies "It is morning, Red." And Hellboy responds "Good, cause it hurts now." During the Cavendish battle in the comics this dialogue is seen word for word, only its Abe who's hurt and Hellboy who corrects him.

[@TOAOM123]

"How do you adapt a comic book" Honestly: you just have to hit 2 key points 1) the characters have to be consistent with their comic persona Not verbatim in terms of aesthetics, but in demeanor and ideals 2) the story should be more of an interpretation of stories in the comics, but not a beat for beat translation EG: zodd always has to be a kryptonian, but the premise of his conflict with superman can waver E.g.: the joker always has to be a psychotic- albeit manipulative- menace who foils Batman; but he doesnt always have to be limited to robbing banks Those elements have to be present to ensure the film honors the source material Now whether or not the movie itself is good still relies on all the technical minutia (Eg: good script, production design, score, etc)

[@DoomGuy-wx4ps]

You guys should do a What's the Difference on Happy! Would be an interesting one

[@CoyotesOwn]

I'd say that BPRD being secret changed the story quite a bit, especially the Golden Army. And Abe seems more general in the movie (probably to distinguish himself from Hellboy). Johann Krauss in Golden Army, on the other hand, is completely different character with the same look and powers (in the BPRD series, the newest member of team learing the ropes. In the movie his the senior member of the BPRD assigned to keep HB inline). Also both his romantic storyline with Liz and a bigger emphasis on the relationship with Bruttenholm, kind ofmake movie HB feel like brooding teenager at times.

[@HundredYearsBoar]

"Seems like we just had a good hellboy or two" 11 years ago?

[@MCRF4NthomasTragedy]

Now that it’s finished do you think you could do a what’s the difference on A Series of Unfortunate Events?

[@MikeJackman]

Hell Boy 2019 DoP (according to wikipedia) "has also served as director of photography on a number of Syfy television films."

[@dylancarroll4623]

That’s not a rainy night in Scotland, that a bright regular day there. Trust me, you don’t want to see a rainy night in Scotland.😂

[@lewisdavidson571]

Dylan Carroll like today for example...

[@dylancarroll4623]

Kira The Renegade 😆😆😆

[@thememeguy2195]

Walking Dead Season 4, it's been about 3 years and 3 months since you did season 3.

[@g0urd_dude246]

I'm not sure the reboot will be as good as Del Toro's

[@thelemonddropskid5445]

I love Pearlman's subtlety. The makeup realy reflect his face.

[@graysonchristian2668]

You guys should do Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy

[@Squiggy8440]

This is a really cool book vs movie video, i didn’t realize how different they were from eachother, mainly because books are much more expensive than the movie counterparts. On another note: have you guys considered doing a book vs movie on “felidae”? The one movie review that gave some nod to the book only mentions it in passing while making a joke with a clip from the simpsons. Which is fine but not very educational for a broke reader.

[@Onyxiate]

Comic Hellboy has one of the most aesthetic designs, with his sloping shoulders and sharp edges.

[@factualopinion6947]

I cannot wait for the new one

[@mattzion8033]

Plz do one of these on Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy

[@travisspaulding5835]

Am I missing something? When are we going to get “What’s the Difference?” videos for Mario Puzo’s Godfather trilogy?

[@tennisdude52278]

0:12 Hellboy came out in 2004. Lazy editing.

[@Akahige28]

The release years of Hellboy and Hellboy 2 average out to 2006.

[@spideyman23]

Blondie62 But they are talking specifically about the 2004 film. It is lazy editing and/or fact checking.

[@tennisdude52278]

Blondie62 This entire video was about the 2004 film. Nothing regarding the 2008 film was included.

[@Kremmen2001]

Interesting, where is this Scatland of which you speak?

[@silverfoot6079]

I think Harbour will be an awesome Hellboy. Hell, I even said he'd make a good Hellboy before he was even chosen.

[@brennanhearn6342]

Correction about Kronen's weapons in the movie, at the start they're wrist blades, and after the jump forward to then present day, they're tonfas.

[@gabrielidusogie9189]

Actually Roger the Homunculus is in the first film in a blink and you'll miss scene while Bruttenholm and Meyers are walking down the hall talking about the history of the B.P.R.D.

[@924Ali]

Yall should do trainspotting for the next one

[@justaguy7230]

Please do a whats the difference for candyman and the forbidden by Clive Barker. Thanks!!

[@LuqmanMal]

i'm sad they dont continue Hellboy 3.. i wonder what happen to them and want to watch he (hellboy) become a father..

[@KINGBADASS100]

Adaptations that faithful to the tone & feel of the original are the best.

[@andrewcook2625]

I would love to see you guys do 13 warrior against eaters of the dead

[@marklu4510]

"spawn(comics and hbo) whats the difference?" next pleaz

[@kirbymarchbarcena]

@2:46 Liz Sherman is a "PYRO-KINETIC" not "PYROTECHNIC"...you're expecting fireworks here?

[@himonightbreeze]

Can't wait for the WTD for the reboot.

[@sopebarrofficial3557]

I freaking love the comics!