Helldivers 2 - Motion Controls Guide (And Why You Should Use It)

[@FlickStickVids]

Pro tip: Use the analog sticks to look around and get close to your target, then use gyro to do the rest of the tracking.😎

[@Justeego]

Yeah, from what I learned from Splatoon the stick sensitivity should match your strafe speed, this way you can strafe and shoot at the same time because a lot level strategy was just going behind other players who couldn't turn fast enough

[@rthj6446]

Disagree. I use flick stick to augment my x axis movement. Just wish Rewasd would allow me to designate the size of the no-flick zone. And letting go of the flick stick turns gyro off.

[@noble_lemon]

Im using vader 3 pro. Turned off steam input but in-game gyroscope still not working. What am I missing?

[@FlickStickVids]

@noble_lemon native gyro on this game only works with Dualshock4 and DualSense controllers. Unless your controller is recognized as an Playstation controller, you won't be able to use native gyro on PC :(

[@noble_lemon]

@@FlickStickVids oh. Thanks for the tip. Maybe there is some emulators or smth that can help.

[@elained.8240]

Funnily enough as a PC player, I've been finding the PS5 controller my favorite way to play. I love the feedback from firing weapons, and now there's gyro functionality--amazing! I tested the gyro while aiming this morning, and it really helped me with my precision shots. Aiming entirely with my thumb and right stick feels obsolete now. Great video! Thanks for sharing, you're the reason I got better at Helldivers 2 🙂

[@TheErlend87]

Same

[@PikaPower131313]

Does this work on steam deck with a dual sense? Cause I am using one and turned on gyro in the settings but I get nothing

[@robinfox4440]

Splatoon player here. Gyro controls work in conjunction with the stick and are among the most accurate control schemes for controller gamers. I'm really glad this is slowly becoming normalized. Do it.

[@BriggityBroocE]

Does it feel weird playing gyro in this game bc there isn’t a button to “center” the camera like with the Y button in Splatoon?

[@massognagna]

​@@BriggityBroocE i play every game with gyro + stick, and i dont ever have a reset button mapped. I can just reset with the stick since the vertical Is not locked like splatoon

[@elained.8240]

I can absolutely confirm turning on gyro aiming in Helldivers improved my aim!

[@SparkingSkeline]

Seeing more games using motion controls makes my day because using motion controls in FPS games is satisfying and ever since using it in Splatoon 1 on wiiu it gave me an amazing experience and new perspective that FPS games should absolutely use it.

[@QuiteTheBandNerd]

Grew up playing Splatoon 1. All my friends think I’m insane for using gyro controls in most games. They’re just so good

[@ALISHAPLAY10]

Sony needs to implement gyro on system level based . Activation with the left trigger option included simulating the right stick . So we don't have to depend ok developers for gyro aiming.

[@NabiYote]

I am really happy gyro is getting more support in general, was hoping for more general support for steam input like in warframe or slime rancher but allowing mixed input is pretty good for anyone not using a playstation gamepad, also it looks like it works on proton so I'll def pick this up as soon as I can, also there's a setting for steam input that reminds me of that steadying transition duration that makes it feel like a trackball, so that's an interesting idea that just needs to be conveyed better... also a ratcheting button is needed, I can live without flickstick but after hours of flickstick in risk of rain 2 is gonna mess with me for a bit

[@dustinwarren2297]

Your guides are fantastic keep up the good work! I'm using your video to set up steam input for helldivers 2 because i really want the added benefit of button chording and action layers. Is there a way to retain/duplicate the default functionality of the track pad on a dual sense edge controller through steam input? Being able to open and ping the map with the track pad is just so good, but i havent been able to figure out how to make it work in steam input.

[@Creshex8]

3:08 People are so obsessed with keeping the advantage of the game’s aim assist, that alone is usually their excuse for not touching gyro. The good news is AA and gyro work at the same time in Helldivers 2. Usually AA is disabled when using motion controls. I don’t use AA, but if some players refuse to use motion aim because of the loss of AA, by all means keep AA on and practice with the gyro too. Another game with AA that’s works with motion controls is Horizon Forbidden West, a single player game with a lot of body part shooting (aiming for specific parts of the enemy). Both of these games can serve as a very player-friendly transition to gyro

[@thymewellspent]

Sooooo it USED to have flick stick support in that that before a couple updates ago steam input settings worked to implement it, but they broke it with one of the last patches... Thanks for the video. I'll try with it disabled and see how i fair.

[@Nogahs]

Omg that rotating the controller thing you did. That’s crazy, I should always base my settings off of that as a baseline before adjusting. Seriously don’t know if that’s a well known thing to do but that legit changes everything for me

[@FlickStickVids]

Every game should have better descriptions, so doing that would not be necessary. But until that's the case, I'm glad my examples helped you!

[@maravreloaded]

Like. Been playing Splatoon 2 for years then got the 3rd game, and because my joycons drift AF and I couldn't get the official Pro Controller I got a Dualsense with the 8-bitdo adapter. It works just like playing with joycons.

[@zapmando]

I got ot on PC, doing gyro but i got the right stick mapped to dpad for steatogems, also ratcheting with the trackpad.

[@ReachTea]

I've started using the Steam controller AND I CAN'T STOP. Side note: I still prefer steam input than native implementations

[@ReynovTV]

Dualsense feedback+that gyro aiming is the super immersive options. I try to use it always, but you need to run steam input for enable gyro but you disabling feedback

[@FlickStickVids]

Not in this case. This is native gyro, Steam Input needs to be disabled to use this feature. You can use steam input if you want, but you will need to set it up yourself.

[@ReynovTV]

@@FlickStickVids sure! i was meaning in other games

[@arcticowl1091]

If you leave rumble/haptic feedback enabled while using gyro, it will interfere with the gyroscope since your controller is vibrating.

[@ReynovTV]

Yeah but you should raise up gyro's deadzone

[@maravreloaded]

This is why even to use it on PC I picked a dualsense. Because the xbox controllers STILL don't have gyros.

[@billburnsbrown9798]

your videos are excellent dude

[@FlickStickVids]

Thx!

[@Jamie-69420]

They should add trackpad touch gyro ratcheting. I think so far mw3 has the best motion sensor implementation. I just wish Sony could provide native ROI gyro sensitivity support, so that we can use motion aiming on all games 😢😢😢

[@nunosousa7698]

An alternative until then is to use gyro only while aiming. Then you get ratcheting “for free”

[@Jamie-69420]

@@nunosousa7698 apprently ratcheting or reposition button isn't the only thing they're missing. There's a huge amount of noise and jitters too

[@BynoShadow]

A native, system-level PS5 gyro implementation would be INCREDIBLE!

[@IetjesBeter]

Good video! Hopefully the devs will use your tips to improve the gyro aiming. I bought it yesterday just because they implemented gyro. Loving the game so far.

[@Planterobeets]

I was going to pass on this game until i found out it has gyro on PS5. I am loving it

[@mp5davy]

I want to use the motion controls so bad but you can't individually invert the y-axis on motion controls! it uses whatever you use for the sticks. I play inverted and playing with motion inverted doesn't work for me :[ I really hope they add the ability to invert the y-axis independently for motion and sticks

[@gbrlsnchs]

I had the same problem. A workaround is to remap "look up" and "look down" to their respective default opposites, and leaving the "inverted" options disabled.

[@yukioacumora4430]

Something i really wish for, was a way to convert the settings and feel of gyro aim in splstoon 3 to other games. In every game i configure gyro for, it never feels quite right, and it doesnt help theres a whole bunch of different settings in steam input. While i love gyro i feel cursed that ill neve rget it to feel quite as perfect for me as in splatoon 3...

[@FlickStickVids]

Splatoon 3 has a lot of filters, causing a little bit of delay compared to other implementations. I'm not saying it's bad, it's just a little different. BUT, if you want to get close to the feeling of Splatoon 3, use World space gyro (or player space, if the game doesn't allow for world space) and figure out your preferred sensitivity, on this video I show examples of the natural sens scale, that's how you copy your sens to every game. Other than that, you can increase the gyro deadzone and the "precision speed". The key is to create just a tiny drag effect. Hope this helps!

[@yukioacumora4430]

​​@FlickStickVids I'll test this out when I get home from work, thanks a ton!!

[@T1cksandLeeches]

For those wondering, It works find on PC wirelessly.

[@YoMomzFav0]

Gotta do an updated version of this video

[@Manuel-qt7pf]

i fucking love you. THANKS!

[@Alex-vi6iz]

I tried this and for aiming it feels very nice, however I find myself staying stationary more often when using gyro. Like somehow it's hard tilting the controller and using the left analog to move at the same time. Anyone else experienced this ?

[@Bananercat]

Yep it did for me too, but a little practice and you'll get it. As a tip, I recommend that you start out by only alowing gyro when pressing aim and use the stick for quick turning. When you get the hang of it you can use it for all firing modes, set the sensitivity to high when hip firing and then low for aim firing.

[@_captain_yt]

8:02 Can you please tell, me how to enable yaw + roll... I'm so frustrated... My controller just moves in x Axis and Y Axis like a handle. In other words, I cannot make a perfect 360° circle with my controller. And what's player space orientation?

[@FlickStickVids]

Unfortunately, Helldivers2 doesn't give you the option to change gyro orientation. Arrowhead already watched this video, but I don't know if changes to the gyro implementation are coming. Player space orientation is the combination of World Space and Local Space. It works just like World Space, but it's a bit more precise. It also works better on portables, which make the best possible option for Helldivers2 because it allows for people to play on Playstation Portal using gyro.

[@_captain_yt]

@FlickStickVids Oh I see now ..like Mobile phones... that's why I was so confused and frustrated playing Apex Legends.... I guess, I won't be able to enable that orientation in Apex Legends ( that Yaw+roll). .. I guess coming from mobile to controller gyro was my biggest mistake. Because I cannot play gyro like a handle. ... I suppose, I'll Just return the controller now. So sad

[@FlickStickVids]

@_captain_yt yeah, devs still don't know how to implement gyro correctly. Some games allow you to change gyro orientation on the settings, but not all of them.

[@_captain_yt]

8:06 that what I want. That's how it is with games on mobile phones. If Sony is watching this, then they should take some tips from, how Gyro works with games on mobile phones. Because I totally cannot play Apex Legends PC with a handle like Gyro (x-axis & y-axis) What about that Yaw+ roll? Will it work, if I enable that in Steam.. There are so many options in Apex Legends. Apex legends Gyro Orientation:- 1: Yaw 2: Roll 3: Yaw+roll 4: Local Space 5: Player Space 6: World Space 7: Laser pointer So which option should I choose, to make it work like Mobile Gyro or that game you were just showing?

[@GoofyChristoffer]

Do you have some tips for setting up the gyro on the Steam Deck for Helldivers? I can't seem to get something really good

[@FlickStickVids]

Use this method to calibrate gyro: kzbin.info/www/bejne/eoGZe4umgJajaJYsi=0j1kx4QI1IOg9RPu Then create an action layer or action set with gyro disabled, set a button to activate and deactivate that layer, like the "start" button to go to menus and deactivate gyro at the same time. Set the outer ring binding on the action layer to activate the gameplay action set, that way gyro will be enabled once you start walking again. And that's about it! Hope this helps!

[@GoofyChristoffer]

@@FlickStickVids That was a really quick answer. Thank you! In your opinion, is it acceptable to use controller mode, or should I create a control set that emulates M+KB? Or is it okay to mix?

[@FlickStickVids]

@GoofyChristoffer I believe Helldivers 2 have mixed inputs. You may see some UI flickering, but most of the time, mixed inputs are the way to go. If you have trouble with that, then full keyboard and mouse emulation it is!

[@GoofyChristoffer]

@@FlickStickVids Thank you. I'll try it. It's much appreciated from this father of two who doesn't have too much time to tweak settings ❤️. All the best

[@GanJJGames]

for Steam Deck: you can check the recent video on my channel about SD in Helldivers 2. It has gyro, stratagems, custom input binds so you never need to stop to do whatever you want

[@PikaPower131313]

Any idea on getting this to work with a Switch Pro controller on steam deck? My motion controls don’t work it seems

[@FlickStickVids]

Yeah, most native gyro games on PC only work with a Dualshock4 or DualSense. But I think you can use steam to make a config for other controllers. Probably someone did that already, so you will only need to import the configuration you want.

[@JonConley]

@@FlickStickVidsHave you tried or seen anyone have any success with the 8bitdo Pro 2 controllers? You can set the controller to appear as a PS4 DS4 or a Switch Pro Controller, but I have not been able to get motion controls in 'Helldivers 2' to work using either the Steam Input mapping or by disabling it and letting the game decide with the default DS4 profile.

[@Future_Blues]

​@@JonConleyI've managed to get motion controls to work with an 8bitdo Pro 2 and the Ultimate Wireless Controller! You need enable Steam Input for the game. There's going to be an option to enable gyro input. I have it set with the screenshot button as a 'toggle on/off' button for menus and stuff. However, gyro will only work if you have it set as a Nintendo Switch Pro Controller. Gyro is unfortunately disabled for Xinput and Dinput modes on 8bitdo controllers. I'm still working on tuning my acceleration and everything, but it's super comfortable for this game. Steam Input lets you use motion on those controllers for pretty much any game, too.

[@poorpriest4549]

I can't do cool backward jump on controller so I'm gonna stick to MK just for style points. That's actually a bit sad since I really enjoyed adaptive triggers feeling.

[@최무겸-n9q]

thank you It's really fun to set it up the way you suggested and play with the gyro. However, the top and bottom changes too much due to vibration. Can I just reduce the top and bottom sensitivity?

[@FlickStickVids]

Unfortunately no, not yet. Hopefully they can add this in the future!

[@최무겸-n9q]

@@FlickStickVids I found a way to change the upper and lower gyro sensitivity. Just edit "input_settings.config" in my PC's Steam folder. "C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\userdata\your steam account numer\553850 emote" gyro_aim_sensitivity = [ 1.7799999713897705 0.5 ] Here, the value of 0.5 is the upper and lower gyro sensitivity value. By modifying the config script, you can change the up/down, left/right gyro sensitivity. According to the monitor 16 : 9 = x : 0.5 I think it would be good to adjust the top and bottom and rotation speed like this.

[@TheSteveNope]

What would you prefer steam input , ds4 Windows or reWASD ?

[@FlickStickVids]

Steam Input all day everyday. reWASD seems to have less bugs, but it isn't as developed and frequently updated as Steam Input. So yeah, Steam Input 4 the win!

[@Nekropl]

i have my GameSir T4 Kaleid with gyro and game in dinput mode of the gamepad just don't see my controller at all, so i just can't use in game implementation of gyro controls, i'm so angry at it omg

[@FlickStickVids]

Yeah, the native implementation only works with playstation controllers

[@jamesusmartinez6468]

Can you make a video on how to activate gyro on handheld PCs i cant seem to get it to work like you did on my Lenovo legion go

[@FlickStickVids]

Native gyro usually only works with a DualSense or a dualshock4. I'm not aware of any method to emulate these controllers on handheld PCs, BUT you can use custom gyro using Steam or any other remapper.

[@robins.905]

can you use gyro on overwatch2 for ps5? if so, how? can’t find any option to do so

[@TewaAya]

Out of all your gamepads, which has a gyro toggle switch? I'm trying multi platform but gulikit pro 2 gyro sucks. Not sure if my phone or the controller is at fault. S20+ but thr exynos 990 8gb version.

[@fghjcgjvfukgtdfjhgf]

My biggest problem with gyro is when i have to do long straight and smooth moves usually i fail because my hands are shaking

[@FlickStickVids]

Modern gyro implementations fix this issue with a bit of smoothing. But as shown in the video, stability features in this game are broken for now. It's not the gyro's fault, it may be a little bit of your hands fault, but mostly, it's the game's fault.

[@fghjcgjvfukgtdfjhgf]

how you hold the controller when aiming ? Maybe that would help me

[@FlickStickVids]

@fghjcgjvfukgtdfjhgf I hold the controller exactly like I showed in the video. Many people may find it hard to put 2 fingers on the back of the controller. One for the triggers and one for the bumpers, but the most important thing to keep in mind is: loosely holding the controller will make every button press shake everything, so keep the controller firm in your hands. My gyro beginners guide has a section dedicated to that. It's very short: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qIDck6iEop6LiJo&si=CTT_d8Ulc_H8_mCd

[@goldfinchui1432]

does this work with a nintendo switch pro controller? i can't get the game to recognise my switch pro unless i enable steam input but i don't want to use that since i want to use the built-in gyro :( my controller works on steam but as soon as i click "play" on the game, the bluetooth light stops lighting up and nothing works

[@FlickStickVids]

Native gyro doesn't work on Helldivers2 with a Switch Pro Controller. You can try to manually add gyro with Steam Input, but it isn't the same as shown in the video (it's even better). More info here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hYK8dqSPeN-Chq8si=z4N77MIByuv5o0Qf

[@sega5785]

Not solid enough in current implementation =/ but using rewasd u could make it work. BTW great video.

[@PikaPower131313]

Does this work on steam deck with a dual sense? Cause I am using one and turned on gyro in the settings but I get nothing

[@FlickStickVids]

You need to disable Steam Input. Idk if that is possible on the steam deck. Unfortunately most games with native gyro only work with Playstation controllers. But you can always create a configuration using steam input to emulate a mouse, it will be a bit of a pain to set it up, but it's a good workaround that can lead to even better results than the native implementation.

[@TheSteveNope]

Could you how us how to use gyro on phone without gamepad holder

[@FlickStickVids]

Gyro on phones are only available on the phone itself, not the controller, so you just need to activate gyro in the settings of your favorite game!

[@Robert-fr9wl]

Can this fix my playstation control drift by acting as an alternative means of moving my camera without the controller's analog having a mind of its own?

[@FlickStickVids]

Sure!

[@maxbuckwalter-chiang3224]

Does anyone know what would cause it to not work for me? I enabled all the settings and I plugged it in but it won't work

[@FlickStickVids]

Which controller are you using?

[@proud805]

If you want to witness the true prowess of gyroscopic controls, observe some PUBG Mobile players who have won world championships. I've been a PC player since childhood, but I later transitioned to mobile gaming, where I became enamored with gyro aiming. However, upon shifting to console gaming, I discovered that not all games support gyroscopic controls, which is quite disappointing. Gyro is more powerful and comfortable than mouse in my opinion.

[@Justeego]

Great video but looking at you holding the controller with two fingers on trigger and bumpers gave me OCD

[@massognagna]

Its more optimal that way. Faster reactions and clicks with fingers being already there, and you shake less by holding the controller more tight

[@Justeego]

@@massognagna while yes, it's faster to hit all the bumpers and triggers, no, you hold it loosely compared to normal. Middle fingers under the controller counter act the pressing of index and thumb better, just try pinching with thumb and middle finger and then thumb with ring finger. To play like you do you must rest your hands on your lap or table because your grip isn't stable enough. I use this grip for smash and fighting games, but for gyro it's just a bad idea

[@massognagna]

@@Justeego You are supposed to rest your hands on your lap/pillow/a support anyway, so its not an issue at all

[@massognagna]

@@Justeego Ma sei pure tu italiano? Lmao

[@Justeego]

@@massognagna sì

[@lucasparada4257]

cara eu vou escrever em portugues mesmo mano, sei que tu e br, teu canal e muito completo mesmo mano, obrigado mesmo, nos br quase nao se fala sobre esse assunto de giroscopio, eu pensava sobre essa possibilidade desde 2019 quando eu jogava fortnite, e eu duvido que eu tenha sido o primeiro jogador a pensar, e muito bom ter o conforto do co controle e toda a habilidade que um mouse pode ter, e bom ver que tem outros br que se apaixonaram por isso como eu, por mais que eles sejam pouquíssimos, nos br falam muito de controle com aim assist, e bem atrasado mesmo esse assunto, obrigado mesmo a qualidade do teu conteudo das tuas reviews sao muito boas, muito profundas, obrigado, gratidão e a unica forma que eu tenho dd te retribuir.

[@FlickStickVids]

É nois. Q bom q tu curtiu!!!

[@bibabutzemann5661]

I cant get the game work with a normal keyboard and mouse layout on the ps5 conroller.. it still uses the console buttons as console buttons :(

[@FlickStickVids]

Are you trying to use the native gyro or making a kbm config on Steam? If you want to use the native gyro, just disable Steam Input for this game.

[@laejabu]

I would still prefer m+k in ps5 , its nice on controller but aim is so much easier for a casual player with the mouse .

[@froogleislive]

Does anybody know how to spin dive? I've been seeing people do it but can't figure it out lol

[@VFRNinja]

Dive and move mouse fast to the side. Not sure if it could be done with controller without making aiming too sensitive.

[@FlickStickVids]

@VFRNinja or you can use gyro aim to dive while flicking the controller to the side you want ;D

[@VFRNinja]

@@FlickStickVids I'm going to try the gyro stuff tonight. I play pc mostly, so I have been getting frustrated trying to get aim, and movement, to a usable state. Having sprint on the left knob gets me killed a bunch.☺️

[@FlickStickVids]

@VFRNinja you can change the bindings of almost every button too. Feel free to experiment

[@VFRNinja]

@@FlickStickVids I would like to have sprint so I can hold it, but I have put quick nade and on r1, and l1 need to stay strategm. I would like to try that expensive controller, but can't bring my self to drop that money without being able to try one. Plus I have a few decades on basically same bindings. Since socom navy seals on ps2 .☺️

[@dEEkAy2k7imkubik]

Your channel is still too small for such an important thing as gyro aiming. Keep up the good work!

[@Utepers]

I don’t feel any aim assist on ps5. None. Whether I have co troller sticky aim at 0 or 1. Anybody else have zero aim assist on ps5?

[@Paddington2024]

Late to the discussion, but I fell the same way. It does a little. But you have to go max setting, but even then it is barely noticeable.

[@LaTomate.]

I wish they would ripoff splatoon gyro, and slim down all those settings

[@hamiltonics]

❤

[@bravefastrabbit770]

Sony actually gave you a review copy at 1.4k subs huh?

[@kalogs13]

You have the brazilian accent

[@FlickStickVids]

I do!

[@slavikbraun4788]

as a controller using shooter expert i disagree just git gud try more diffrent settings this sh1tty motion control kills you more then you would like unless you are relly used to it

[@hermes3354]

well, just git gud with gyro aiming, because you can achieve far more with it

[@slavikbraun4788]

@@hermes3354 you just wrong buddy

[@hermes3354]

@@slavikbraun4788 you are bro lol, you can't compete with mouse and keyboard players with normal controller settings, but you can with gyro

[@slavikbraun4788]

@@hermes3354 brother it's just your imagination I could imagine you didn't even try gyro in any fps game, I mean if you like it go for it big dog but it is very inconsistent, btw you just wrong about compete against m&kb there is just no way to beat a skilled m&kb user with a controller there are very good controller players I would call me one but it doesn't matter it's just like if you compare a car to another no matter how good the driver is the car isn't going to be faster

[@hermes3354]

@@slavikbraun4788 I agree that it often is inconsistent because it's relatively rare to find a good implementation. But it absolutely can compete with m&k if you set it up well and are used to it. A good classic controller player won't be able to keep up with a good gyro player IF the implementation is good, and a good gyro player might be able to keep up with a m&k player