HelloVenus Seoyoung - Diet Idol that Escaped a broken System

[@totally_a_spy]

I'm extremely happy for her. She found what she liked. And I'm sure she realised being the sexy visual would not allow her to actually do what she wanted in rhe long term in a works where women are boxed into little categories. She seems like an intelligent woman who know they would disband and so laid the groundwork for her own success

[@autumnidkk]

wow her voice is beautiful! going the theatre route was a great decision. hope the best for her going forward.

[@hanna19]

Could you do Loona’s Heejin? Her journey in becoming really healthy and fit, which can also be seen by her incredible improvement in dancing, has been really inspiring. From saying she’d rather starve than do fitness at the age of 17, to working out all the time and getting noticeable abs while also being interested in eating vegan, her growth has been incredible. I would really love to see a video that shows that❤

[@skylerk126]

that would be awesome!

[@XihoNekochan3]

Yes please! Heejin is definitely a great example on healthy diet and overall health!

[@abimon76]

When the part where the members were "teasing" her for secretly snacking came, i knew there was smtg wrong with the group itself

[@preguicadetu]

girl, those girls were also a piece of sh!t. I am happy that she is better now, I hope she takes care of her health, physical and mental health

[@justiceformina5717]

Ok so Hellovenus looked like a toxic environment, no wonder she improved after they disbanded. From the girls teasing her about secretly snacking, to the other girls getting to eat whatever except her, to the weird interviews where they told fans to re-watch the their stages and look closely at Seo's body, to them giving her DIET PILLS right after eating. She just did what her unnies instructed being the new kid in the group.

[@dorine_]

yes, i also found the clip of them hitting her with the toy hammer while accusing her of snacking very weird.. it was not funny at all to me

[@huangrenjundeservestheuniv7906]

Is known that Nara is mean, i'm not surprised

[@lovelucasperroniX]

@@huangrenjundeservestheuniv7906 really??? where did you read that? I'm shocked (?)

[@sakaom]

i dont think so. i know this comment's old but i think the whole group was brainwashed by fantagio, all the members struggled with body image but seoyoung was given more focus, her natural body shape being praised by fantagio itself in articles and promotions (also explains alice's weird reminder to see her body in wiggle wiggle, since those interviews are all scripted im sure fantagio instructed her to say it), her "thighs+hips+butt" combo being sold as her main thing despite my girl being a vocalist. the hammer video in itself was... weird; i saw this SAME discussion on korean forums and now on non-korean media and while the non-korean media talked about how rude it was for them to tease her for her eating habits, koreans said it was a very light teasing and that foreigners shouldn't stick their nose in korean culture, that hellovenus was very real for "playing dirty" to win the game, not pretending to be all buddy-buddy since there apparently if you're younger you'll never get things fair. another thing, EVERYONE took diet pills since it was prolly ordered by the director, your comment says like nara and alice were holding her at gunpoint to take it. plus, the thing i think seals it all, if hellovenus was such a toxic environment, why do they keep posting about hanging out with each other, keep mentioning each other, commenting on each other's posts after they disbanded..? "media play" would you hang out with your bullies and pretend to be buddy buddy just because a few people like to see you together? ESPECIALLY yooyoung, one who did most of the teasing in the hammer video and was massacred on twitter for it lmao

[@epmeats]

10:01 I'm surprised they let this air, Hellovenus were really honest to do that on camera. I bet hundreds of idols do that as soon as the cameras are off for these shows.

[@29003eel]

Yeah this is the first time I’m seeing laxatives being openly used. I wonder if they were weirdly sponsored by the pill company

[@pinkpanadalove2387]

@@29003eel It wasn't sponsored because Nara used her hand to cover the bottle label. But all the more fans will try to find that brand because now they know its something their idols genuinely use irl and it works for them. most of diet pill sponsors like what momamoo have or hyuna were fake and they never use them.

[@29003eel]

@@pinkpanadalove2387 ah okay thank you!

[@emilymathilde4331]

@@pinkpanadalove2387 aaaah laxatives are so bad. I know someone who took them for years and now can’t (poo) without them. So she must take them for the rest of her life

[@mochimellow4188]

@@xpnkxpacx please don't use laxatives they are extremely dangerous and bad for you if you abuse them. I have an eating disorder and still have barely used them and am warned against using them by other people with eating disorders. It's not worth it trust me.

[@amfgvideos2517]

There have been endless groups that come and left like HelloVenus. It's super rare for an idol to turn things around for themselves solo, especially an idol that focused mainly on promoting themselves through diet. Seoyoung really had a clear vision for what she wanted before and after the group, all her work paid off in the end.

[@cm_1201]

Are you able to re-upload the Seohyun (SNSD) video? It has been taken down.

[@skylerk126]

please talk about wonyoung, i’m really worried for her

[@horrinightray3679]

Qq

[@gwngwngwn]

@@skylerk126 go to the channel's community tab and read the post regarding wonyoung

[@KHGSMel]

Hello Venus debuted under both Fantagio and Pledis. Pledis did most of the things, due to them being the "bigger" entertainment. Pledis also worked with the innocent image. Only when the group was put completely under Fantagio, they started doing "sexier" concepts... I do believe they would've started earlier, had pledis not put their foot in.

[@heejinators7342]

That’s so sick cause there would still be minors as members 💀😭

[@skylerk126]

damn how u let pledis outdo you

[@KHGSMel]

@@skylerk126 pledis are shit when it comes to promoting and paying their idols (💀) but they're not as... cruel as some other companies are. they also aren't big on the sexual themes regardless, for ggs they mostly put their money on cute or girl crush themes

[@axxwqw3117]

@@KHGSMel after school was under pledis though

[@KHGSMel]

@@axxwqw3117 Yeah, except for Flashback they also didn't have very "sexy" comebacks....

[@WhySoPrettyJinsoul.]

Im so happy for her, it looks like being as a musical actress is her calling

[@Riu-bw4bl]

So many K-pop fans say they want these sexy concepts back and I think a lot forget what usually comes with it and the problems that can arise. This video is a good reminder

[@pinkpanadalove2387]

idols debuted a lot older back than too. 16-18 was considered risky to the public to have suggestive concepts in 2013. Now freaking 13-15 year olds debut every other month. Now we have sickos trying to defend minors singing about asking fans to taste their "cookie" in a slow R&B song or dropping to the floor to dance WAP, but ya know, it's not too much for a 13 year old, ppl are just objectifying them out of nowhere lol

[@fdscrl6016]

I’m one of those people because I just prefer more grown concepts but I would never want it back it woman are going to be uncomfortable doing it :/ which unfortunately would happen and I’m sure even happens with other concepts that seem more innocent.

[@jellyjellywowie]

When we say that we mean with older women and ones who actually want to do it

[@Riu-bw4bl]

@@jellyjellywowie I obviously know that. The thing is tho even if there older women you can never tell if they truly comfortable with the outfits and concepts especially since they don't get to choose them most of the time. Once again like shown in the video. You just can't tell. Not saying all sexy concepts are bad but it's just something to keep in mind

[@Riu-bw4bl]

@@fdscrl6016 I agree ): aoa used to be my favorite group but after seeing some of these groups disband and what they say after it and what they go through with sexy concepts do make me worry about certain things

[@alexia3552]

A rare success, to finally be able to do the art and performance she really loves, and that is a respectful showcase for her talents.

[@angeladonato5096]

You should do a video on Wonyoung from IVE, she’s reached a point with her weight that’s extremely alarming. While some fans like to say that she’s still developing and that’s why she’s so skinny. At this point that can’t be the case with how frail and small she has become. Shes 18 now and ever since PD48 shes continued to lose weight at an insane rate. i developed an eating disorder around her age when I was 17 and I looked the same way she is currently physically. And if I didn’t get sent away to an inpatient facility for help I would have dropped dead. And so, it worries me even more seeing Wonyoung like this with taking into consideration her hectic schedule as an Idol. I honestly wish she was put onto hiatus for a bit to take care of herself before it’s too late like how WM did for Jine (formerly Oh My Girl).

[@axxwqw3117]

usually teenagers lose weight in their face, not their bodies anyway. women are constantly bloated bc our bodies are still getting used to having a period and hormones and having to eat more to sustain us

[@167kx]

if you look at the persons community posts theres an explanation on why they aren't doing a wonyoung video

[@christina4558]

@@axxwqw3117 yeah wonyoung's body looks so thin but her face still looks normal. i hope she'll get better :(

[@terminatorhd889]

@@christina4558 that's one of my main questions. How does she have such a thin body but her face looks... normal? like, wouldn't her face weight also drop if she were this skinny?

[@marulollipops]

@@terminatorhd889 shoots on her face lol, so she won't look like she sunk. Many commercial models use that kind of treatment too so their face looks filled while they're stick thin

[@amberkiely8521]

Please Do Wonyoung, I'm really curious about her situation and I feel like there's a lot of discussion about it atm

[@evieb8187]

Honestly she just turned 18. I don’t think it’s appropriate to be talking about her body.

[@amberkiely8521]

@@evieb8187 thats fair, I just want to know more info about her health bg and everything and to show people who complain so much about her body, she gets way too much backlash. They've done great videos before on naturally slim people which demonstrate they're actually healthy people, that's where I was coming from.

[@koikoicori]

@@amberkiely8521 During her Produce and early debut days would be when Wonyoung was naturally skinny. Due to her being the newest it girl, she’s in the spotlight more often than not compared to her members. Too, I sincerely believe that her most recent and most worrisome weight loss is due to stress, criticism that she’s been getting for every little thing, and the fact that k-netzs are continuously praising her for her “skinny body” and body proportions. Any girl of her age would feel pressured to always remain pretty and skinny, even though she would always be considered pretty regardless.

[@amberkiely8521]

@@koikoicori I completely agree with everything you said. She looked naturally skinny when she was a teen and then lost her facial baby fat which is to be expected and maybe a couple pounds of overall body fat giving her a very lean figure. She still had muscle mass tho despite probably being underweight so was most likely of okay health overall at least. Recently tho she lost that too which is a good sign of not having enough food due to whatever reasons. I think the more people "defend" her and praise her body as it is right now, the more it will get ingrained that this is right for her, regardless of what her eating habits or health actually is. On videos where she is most likely to see comments like their own videos I would never say anything to point out her weight specifically but even online and on tiktok, I am careful to try to use the phrase being healthy rather than "too skinny" because even though she is likely underweight, that isn't the important thing is, health is.

[@soft_luve7763]

@@evieb8187 I understand, but her body lacks muscle mass and fat meaning that she is not losing weight in a healthy way and her body is very unhealthy rn, because of her young age it could cause alot of problems ranging from her menstrual cycle to mental health and wellbeing. From what ive seen everyone is currently praising her weight loss and is claiming it is because she is naturally skinny, which is only going to support her unhealthy weight. Yes, she is naturally skinny, but her weight rn is not natural. Her weight when she first debuted in izone was her most healthy weight, you can clearly see muscle definition and she has more energy, her moves also look more energetic when u watch fancies from back then. I think a video would help bring awareness to how unhealthy her weight is right now and will encourage more fans to support won young to get the right support to gain weight and help her overcome why she is losing weight to an unhealthy extent for example helping her overcome stress or a possible ED.

[@syasyaishavingfun]

Idols with real actual vocal abilities able to hop on to further careers as they aged out which frankly most others can't.

[@light_bit]

You're right. Most of main and lead vocalist of K-Pop group. Are end up as soloist or musical actor/actress after their group disband. Or even doing that when the group still active.

[@pinkpanadalove2387]

It's so gross how they were used by their company :( fans area always blind till it's too late. Same thing with Stellar, the company was starving them so they could cry on tv shows to get sympathy. Stellar was suffering so much they begged for fans and money and fans helped prolong that misery by giving money to the company exploiting them.

[@simshigh]

Not to mention one of the Stellar members getting triggered by milk now because of it basically being a semen substitute in one of their music videos, this is why K Pop fans should never assume that idols have control over their image and creative direction.. :(

[@thingl7859]

This is why I don't like sexy revealing dances for girl groups and boy groups cause the pressure and hypersexualization of LIVING BREATHING YOUNG PEOPLE is so weird to me. Unless they are like jessi and truly want to I am cautious to supporting these explicit concepts. It gives me the icky feeling watching 😥😓

[@pinkpanadalove2387]

Sistar and Girls Day are the only sexy groups I can think of where it wasn't creepy and where all the girls were adults and fully enjoying the concept. The music was just as important to those groups image as the visuals. More manufactured "sexy" groups like HelloVenus / EXID / Stellar / AOA Shoved it down their fans throats out of nowhere because the company was trying to bank off trends before it blew up those groups face and they disbanded or switched back to bubble pop.

[@nathyf.1467]

also having your body on the spot light all the time ads more pressure to look hot and keep a certain figure so others don't lose money

[@GenerationYUI]

I'm glad she's having a solid career.

[@armyisking5395]

She look healthy and happier now. A little weight loss is ok, hellovenus era was just way too extreme. Now she does everything in moderation and smart 🤓

[@armyisking5395]

Side note 4:15 Good on Alice for winning that lawsuit!!!

[@randomrandom3128]

Just wanted to say that I appreciate your hard work and the details put into each video you make 💗 That being said, I’d also like to kindly ask if you happen to have a video on Apink Eunji? I find her story pretty motivating~

[@exol4u756]

5:08 that interview was rude af! " Seoyoung is known for eating a well" and "Do you like mukbang?" Were they implying she's fat??? She looks so uncomfortable, it's bad enough they were forcing her to diet while her members got to eat pasta and ramen wi9thout her

[@simshigh]

Beyond distasteful and so passive aggressive of them, they literally bring up that another member is known for a talent i.e., boxing after saying that “Seoyoung is known for eating well.” Like, what the fuck ?? 😐😐

[@yeos_angel_]

"you ate meat yesterday without the director's consent" WHAT? you don't need consent to fucking eat jc this poor girl. all of the other members constantly making comments about her body make me so uncomfortable. i'm happy this account exists to expose how harmful the kpop industry can be and i'm glad that she's doing better outside of kpop

[@axxwqw3117]

ive (hint hint) seen other kpop idols lose weight, but seoyoung's is one that upsets me the most, maybe bc she lost such a dramatic amount of weight, but i remember seeing her face after the weight loss and literally not recognizing her. im glad she's in an industry that respects her talents now

[@29003eel]

This is the first time I’m hearing of her but I’m so happy she got a happy ending :)

[@cole9547]

I am glad she is doing what she had wanted :) Thank you for sharing.

[@lemonade0627]

YES finally a video about my ultimate bias!!! seoyoung was always so talented and gorgeous at any weight, i hope some people will discover her and become fans because of this video. not gonna lie, i really loved when she put on some weight in 2015 because it looked beautiful on her and it's so rare to see a female idol with more weight on them who isn't forced to cover it up. but if she wanted to lose weight, i'm glad she was able to do it. i hope she releases music again some day!

[@CM_CM_]

Producers making them take laxatives is so vile. A compilation video about what idols are doing now having left their agencies, if they have moved away from entertainment, or shifted entertainment types, would be interesting.

[@lastspartan15]

"Seoyoung is known for eating well." Bro I would've killed myself, what is wrong with this interviewer lol

[@electrap9781]

Seoyoung is one of my favourite idols. About once a year for the past 4, she likes my Instagram comments I left years ago because she reads what everyone was saying, and likes positive messages. I’m sad I never noticed her body image struggles and how her team was to her about it. So glad she’s doing well

[@witchesgetstitches9900]

I'm so glad she found what she wanted to do. The group environment seemed very toxic. Could you also do Yesung again? I really love your videos!

[@p.j.7143]

So glad this has a happy ending. Of course there could be trauma there, and horrible memories, but it makes me so happy to see she seems to be doing well, successful, happy, and well-loved in the theatre community. She really did escape the soul-draining idol life and went into something much more fulfilling for her.

[@kunwalhayya7689]

The fact you still have the same outro 💓💓💗 SNSD>>>>>

[@becca.131]

Can you make one about ive’s wonyoung weightloss? she lost some weight from when she was one pd48 to iz*one and now ive

[@mary-of3sz]

omg i literally commented yesterday how much I’ve missed your videos. Thank you soooo much for still producing content for us

[@valentinarebolledo5961]

Please do nayoung from lightsum/produce48 🙏🙏🙏

[@AtalantaTheHunter]

I'm so happy for her, hope the best for her future 😊

[@ljoexoppa7542]

Wow! Seoyoung was my bias back in 2014 2015 I had no idea she continued her life as a performer and is doing so well for herself

[@Paulamurat]

Thank you so very much for making this channel. You show, with a lot of evidence, one of the ugliest sides of k-pop that people are very willing to naturalize. I love how you tell the idols' stories without shaming them but the industry. Thank you.

[@neko2412neko]

I don't remember exactly, but HelloVenus started as a collaporation girl group between Fantiago and Pledis(?...I'm not sure if I remembered that correctly). They had a good start and got some attention for their vocals, but than the other company backout of the contract and the members of that company had to leave the group (THE main vocal had to leave). Fantiago tried to fix the issue... but failed. I don't say the members were bad singers (clearly not), but the group was missing structure and especially a strong main vocal... and than they jump on the sexy trend and actually got a lot of attention for wiggle wiggle... but this was only a short-time fix... I'm glad Seoyoung is good now and does what she loves!!!

[@royery]

I think she did it for herself. I think she feels happy with how she and her body looks like now. I don't think nobody pressured her because even after the group disbanded, she continue dieting.

[@magicscoolbus3834]

She is now doing what she loves good for her! Wishing her all the succes!

[@moa7320]

Can you pleas do Jang Wonyoung of I've?😭😭

[@floralflora1572]

I was just watching one of ur old videos 😂 Also u should do a part 2 for itzy ryujin Oh and talk about gidle soyeon too

[@cole9547]

Can you all leave Ryujin alone? It is seriously getting annoying. There is _"concern"_ and then there is just downright trying to act like you own her. In previous videos OP even points out how this is wrong. Just stop commenting on others bodies. Yes, she lost weight but can't you just focus on supporting her? Sorry if this is coming off strong towards you, it just is so tiring to see.

[@AB-cp5fn]

So glad the overly sexual concept is not a thing anymore. Also glad for Seoyoung.

[@HKim0072]

They weren’t given the right tools back then. For the most part, I think companies are smarter now, but the biggest issue is time. Weight is a numbers and metabolism game. How many calories your burn - the food you eat. The yo-yo is the worst because it can destroy your standard metabolism burn. All the idols seems to get their weight lower after they leave the business. Much more time on their hands to exercise properly.

[@rinalina_]

I don't know if you've ever thought about doing Lightsum's Nayoung or if there's even enough information out there (I personaly think it's may because of the declining popularity). I saw Lightsum live a few months ago and I would love to see your opinion and analysis about it.

[@someonesaccount4875]

this company waited until the last member turned 18 to give them disgusting concepts now the likes of Hybe and Starship don't even wait anymore. Not saying what Fantagio did was commendable, not at all, 18 is still very young + you can still be in your late 20s and still don't like it yet be forced upon u. But I was commenting on how things have changed.

[@xml571]

first part of this video made me sad because of all the insecurities and hardships she must have gone through BUT thank you for the ending! It made me happy to see she finally found success and happiness with her career! I wonder how the other girls do? Hard to follow most of them if you aren't Korean. I know about Nara and her acting career even getting her first leading role and some amazing supporting roles in great shows like Itawon Class etc. Alice married if I recall it right but what happened to Lime and the others?

[@le96g]

The laxative being market as diet pills when it's one of the many dangerous ways people with ED force themselve to shit out their weight is just infuriating. Promoting ED is a business in South Korea.

[@agnamlyn]

after the disband sometime they still meet each other, they still support each other if you follow their Instagram, they post a pic together, amd a snapgram together too

[@rosiesrose2769]

She looks so pretty now, even better than before

[@amrashuku]

update on ryujin please?

[@vip5hawol-deehirota]

another group i miss ): thanks for an upload again ! ♡

[@nehastyles6593]

Plz do on red velvet joy and jisoo recent weightloss

[@EverythingxYourexNot]

I have missed your vids! Thanks for the upload!

[@choijulia4925]

do a video on wonyoungs case plzzzz

[@vick6997]

wonyoung please

[@arayamickens2]

please do chaeryeong of itzy she has lost quite a lot this cb

[@romuloduarte4631]

Could you update Seola one, and Wonyoung?

[@nehirdepresyonda1893]

Pls do a version of joy and lee hi too

[@salmonchief]

Hey, I love your vids, and I wanna know if you could do an updated video on ryujin since recently she’s been getting attention for her weight loss, and I would love to see your take on it, and the facts

[@mightyobserver12]

She got good voice

[@suwingonizone]

I'm so happy to see a new video from you!!!

[@laylimaulidah9221]

Miss them. Hello venus

[@timothyjames6364]

i miss hello venus

[@beomgyusfangirl9023]

Wow thank you again

[@聖謨]

👏

[@salmoox3281]

Can you do Park Bom (ex 2ne1) please

[@ainunnisa1769]

she looks thin but in healthier way compared when she still under hello venus.

[@akbhyewon4833]

I RLLY NEED U SUBS UR VIDEOS IN SPANISH PLS IM SO BAD IM ENGLISH

[@doxoxo779]

Please do jeongyeon from twice

[@hanyearner5000]

i love ur vids!! i was wondering if you plan on making a vid abt itzys ryujin weight loss? just curious! ty for your hardwork❣️

[@bnf42-chrisdiana87]

Can u do bella hadid , i was really curious abt her sudden weight change

[@G-Leena]

Hey where did the Hwasa Video go? Are you planning on doing a new one? Love your videos btw 💜

[@bascal133]

What a happy ending! ❤

[@nadjii2517]

She is not fat but healthy

[@GwenxSempre]

First time being early lol

[@mossmunching]

Id really like an episode on Wonyoung. People will legit not stfu about her body and it drives me insane. She only just turned 18. People say she’s lost weight but like she also shouldn’t look the same as she did when she was 14/15?? She has similar body n height to one of my closest friends who is naturally skinny and seeing all the comments makes me so angry. Maybe I’m wrong tho? It’s def be a good episode

[@margaretofscotland4707]

nah she talked about dieting back in izone

[@purpleeyebrows19]

Ofc you won’t look the same as an adult as you did as a child but the thing is she has lost so much weight when she was already thin to begin with to the point where she’s visibly very underweight. Yujin in comparison is the same height as her but isn’t as underweight, ik everyone bodies are different but with wonyoung it is a bit concerning not to mention the amount of pressure she must feel in order to maintain that appearance. It’s possible that with her very hectic personal schedules plus being an active idol could’ve contributed to the weight loss, however I find it really weird how her body to some is considered “the standard” when very few even look like her naturally herself included…

[@gibblegobble]

Wonyoung legs are as thin as Gaeul's arms. She's not healthy.