Helm Hammerhand and the War of the Rohirrim | Tolkien Explained

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@EhlistarsWrath
@EhlistarsWrath 3 жыл бұрын
“The horn of Helm Hammerhand- shall sound in the deep! One last time~” With knowledge of the lore of Helm, Theoden’s quote seems much more cool
@evanripple3230
@evanripple3230 3 жыл бұрын
Gives me goosebumps every time
@handsomefatboy
@handsomefatboy 3 жыл бұрын
I know right! I just watched that clip again because of this new knowledge of lore of Helm’s Deeps lol
@Tilnaor
@Tilnaor 3 жыл бұрын
I've read the Hobbit before the LotR and even befor that the Silmarillion, in chronological order. Remembering those stories during the book, every little thing got deeper meaning. So the movies, filled with refences which understandable only for who are deep in the lore
@yourmomshouse6984
@yourmomshouse6984 2 жыл бұрын
Now for wrath! Now for ruin! And the red Dawn!
@yourmomshouse6984
@yourmomshouse6984 2 жыл бұрын
YES!
@Paulafan5
@Paulafan5 3 жыл бұрын
Helm: Can I have a word with you outside? Proceeds to beat a man to death with his bare hands, leading to a bloody war and ultimately his own death. Helm: Worth it.
@MrBendylaw
@MrBendylaw 3 жыл бұрын
It only took one hand.
@KororaPenguin
@KororaPenguin 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine how deadly he'd be if he knew martial arts from Easternesse.
@patrickc9726
@patrickc9726 3 жыл бұрын
I guess one might say you NAILED Hammerhand's review
@timo9533
@timo9533 3 жыл бұрын
GET OOOOOOUT!!!!!
@rcnyoplait
@rcnyoplait 3 жыл бұрын
I'm disappointed in myself for laughing 😆
@davidwalker8195
@davidwalker8195 3 жыл бұрын
Nah, he HAMMERED it home.
@michaelnash1067
@michaelnash1067 3 жыл бұрын
Oooo, ...my side...
@ronlittlejohn8046
@ronlittlejohn8046 3 жыл бұрын
Patrick, please see yourself out.
@chrisw6164
@chrisw6164 3 жыл бұрын
Rohan: “Where was Gondor?” Gondor: “Er, it was snowing, we couldn’t make it.” Rohan: “OK Gondor 🙄”
@brookew.h.n5568
@brookew.h.n5568 3 жыл бұрын
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! WHERE WAS GONDOR! HAHAHAHA
@technic5528
@technic5528 3 жыл бұрын
yep, that must be the reason lol
@fantasywind3923
@fantasywind3923 3 жыл бұрын
Where was Gondor? As always under attack! :) But no worries they were only delayed ;). "In the days of Beren, the nineteenth Steward, an even greater peril came upon Gondor. Three great fleets, long prepared, came up from Umbar and the Harad, and assailed the coasts of Gondor in great force; and the enemy made many landings, even as far north as the mouth of the Isen. At the same time the Rohirrim were assailed from the west and the east, and their land was overrun, and they were driven into the dales of the White Mountains. In that year (2758) the Long Winter began with cold and great snows out of the North and the East which lasted for almost five months. Helm Hammerhand of Rohan and both his sons perished in that war; and there was misery and death in Eriador and in Rohan. But in Gondor south of the mountains things were less evil, and before spring came Beregond son of Beren had overcome the invaders. At once he sent aid to Rohan. He was the greatest captain that had arisen in Gondor since Boromir; and when he succeeded his father (2763) Gondor began to recover its strength. But Rohan was slower to be healed of the hurts that it had received. It was for this reason that Beren welcomed Saruman, and gave to him the keys of Orthanc; and from that year on (2759) Saruman dwelt in Isengard." The Return of the King, LoTR Appendix A, Annals of the Kings and Rulers: Gondor and the Heirs of Anárion: The Stewards .... "Four years later (2758) great troubles came to Rohan, and no help could be sent from Gondor, for three fleets of the Corsairs attacked it and there was war on all its coasts. At the same time Rohan was again invaded from the East, and the Dunlendings seeing their chance came over the Isen and down from Isengard. It was soon known that Wulf was their leader. They were in great force, for they were joined by enemies of Gondor that landed in the mouths of Lefnui and Isen. The Rohirrim were defeated and their land was overrun; and those who were not slain or enslaved fled to the dales of the mountains. Helm was driven back with great loss from the Crossings of Isen and took refuge in the Hornburg and the ravine behind (which was after known as Helm’s Deep). There he was besieged. Wulf took Edoras and sat in Meduseld and called himself king. There Haleth Helm’s son fell, last of all, defending the doors. Return of the Kings - Book 7, Appendix A: Annals of the Kings and Rulers, II House of Eorl ... "The Eastern invaders perished or withdrew; and there came help at last from Gondor, by the roads both east and west of the mountains. Before the year (2759) was ended the Dunlendings were driven out, even from Isengard; and then Fréaláf became king."
@BOG0690
@BOG0690 3 жыл бұрын
Heeeeeeeeeeeres Gondor ! *Blows horn of Gondor*
@timwodzynski7234
@timwodzynski7234 3 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@LandStrider23
@LandStrider23 3 жыл бұрын
There's something about enjoying both a fine cup of Joe, some Pipeweed, and your presentation. Thank you for sharing, well done friend.
@NerdoftheRings
@NerdoftheRings 3 жыл бұрын
What moment from Helm Hammerhand's life are you MOST excited to see in the War of the Rohirrim animated film? I'm glad I was able to pull this off for today's release - I decided to change topics on Thursday after the WOTR announcement, so producing this on a 2-day timeline is a new record for me. haha.
@ceciliafidela4777
@ceciliafidela4777 3 жыл бұрын
EVERYTHIIINGGGGG
@jonasb104
@jonasb104 3 жыл бұрын
The inevitable last scene of him being found frozen in Helms-deep and being put to rest under a hill of Simbelmyne.😢
@Enerdhil
@Enerdhil 3 жыл бұрын
This will be ANIME, so I can't wait for that epic punch. I just hope he doesn't yell, "KAMEHAMEHAAAAAAAAA!" before doing so.
@DavetheNord
@DavetheNord 3 жыл бұрын
His fist! :D
@rangerofthenorth1970
@rangerofthenorth1970 3 жыл бұрын
His final batlle and his nephew killing Wulf
@thiagopereira8125
@thiagopereira8125 3 жыл бұрын
The first thing I thought when you mentioned “The war of the Rohirrim” I thought “The horn of helm hammerhand will sound in the deep one last time!”
@rangerofthenorth1970
@rangerofthenorth1970 3 жыл бұрын
One of the badass characters in all of legendarium....In this new anime I would really liked to see more about history of Rohan, more of Helms Deep and in simply more and more of Middleearth, I really hope that if this movie does well we can get a franchise, this is like a door for more and more movies and stories about Middlearth!!!
@stuffhobbes6187
@stuffhobbes6187 10 ай бұрын
Is there a more bad-a** name for a character than "HELM HAMMERHAND?"
@ChiaraSiasat
@ChiaraSiasat 3 жыл бұрын
Loved this! I’m super excited for this animated movie. Helm was such a badass King and I’m glad we finally get to see his story being told!
@Enerdhil
@Enerdhil 3 жыл бұрын
I'm so glad you read those lines of Helm and Freca. So epic! You have done a great job. However, you said Helm's son Haleth died before the doors of Suthburg. He actually died defending Meduseld from Wulf's attack. He was the last to be killed before Wulf sat on the throne.
@TheCinderestBlockAround
@TheCinderestBlockAround 3 жыл бұрын
It's a funny coincidence that I asked for this video only days before we knew about the War of the Rohirrim film 😅 thank you, even though I wasn't the cause of it!
@kirbymarchbarcena
@kirbymarchbarcena 3 жыл бұрын
The Horn of Helm Hammerhand sounds mystical...add some loudspeakers and this would have left Rohan in frenzy
@gdeezy
@gdeezy 3 жыл бұрын
I've just stumbled upon your channel a few days ago and I'm absolutely enthralled. By far my favorite content to date. I just wanted to express my appreciation and admiration for the work you're are doing. And I'm sure it means as much to others as well. Just wanted you to know that you're appreciated. Thank you sir.
@victorbenner539
@victorbenner539 3 жыл бұрын
I am subscribed to your channel and have enjoyed many of your videos, they have helped me to better understand Tolkien's work. This stands out as truly wonderful because I had never considered how Helms Deep earned it's name and now I do. I just sit in wonder at times how many more stories could have told had the master of these tales lived but a few more years. I thank his son for sharing with us what he did. Rest in peace J.R.R. Tolkien. ⛅👍🍻
@nerdwatch1017
@nerdwatch1017 2 жыл бұрын
Dwarfs are kinda my favorite tied with those of Gondor for the mad skills at carving out mountains and turning them into massive fortresses!!!
@adarshkamoda9183
@adarshkamoda9183 3 жыл бұрын
Helm Hammerhand was the living incarnation of "At close quarters, a fist is better than any gun". Destiny 2 reference.
@MrRav1247
@MrRav1247 Ай бұрын
Yup the trailer brought me here cant wait for December 2024
@nisargvasa4494
@nisargvasa4494 3 жыл бұрын
Your videos have very strongly renewed my interest in Middle Earth! Also, the production quality is top-notch well done and keep up the great work!
@taylorbryan7697
@taylorbryan7697 2 жыл бұрын
Love your videos! You should do one of the life and background of Boromir.
@KingTutt253
@KingTutt253 3 жыл бұрын
Love your videos and most of all your use of tone to describe events with the background music love it!
@jesuscoyt-munoz2753
@jesuscoyt-munoz2753 3 жыл бұрын
Hello Nerd of the rings. What I’m most excited for in the new movie is either seeing helms story brought into it or an exploration of all the great kings of Rohan before Theoden and Eomer. And I have a question do you think helms daughter also died during the winter or did she pass down a few heirs of her own but they did not want the thrown?
@NerdoftheRings
@NerdoftheRings 3 жыл бұрын
That's a great question! I don't think we are ever told what happened to her. Could she have been killed when Wulf overtook Edoras? Or perhaps she fled to Dunharrow with Frealaf? Makes you wonder about Eowyn's line in the LOTR films: "Women of this country learned long ago that those without swords could still die upon them."
@jesuscoyt-munoz2753
@jesuscoyt-munoz2753 3 жыл бұрын
@Nerd of the rings thank you. Also I feel like in my head canon helms daughter and heir perhaps let her cousin assume the throne and maybe she made her own royal house like that princess from numenor that gave us elendil and his sons in the second age. Also great job with this video the artwork you used reminded me of Men of The West’s video on Rohan.
@johnnyfreitas7297
@johnnyfreitas7297 3 жыл бұрын
Always a pleasure to watch or videos! Thank you so much for your work!🙏
@paladinbob1236
@paladinbob1236 3 жыл бұрын
a good explaination of the history of this important character, much unspoken of it..and certainly looking forward to the film :P
@TomWainwright1
@TomWainwright1 Ай бұрын
This was brilliant, thank you!
@kaanaydinay
@kaanaydinay 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for that ! 🖖
@BFMert
@BFMert 3 жыл бұрын
I love animated series and i'm so excited. Should i keep the bar low guys? Do you think it'll be disappointing?
@NerdoftheRings
@NerdoftheRings 3 жыл бұрын
I have high hopes. I think they picked a story that has enough to go off of in the original text that it will be highly compelling. Also, it's really well self-contained, so it doesn't rely too much on other locations/events in Middle-earth during this time. I would LOVE to see more films like this that tell smaller, but still epic stories from Middle-earth history.
@Princeofknowelege
@Princeofknowelege 3 жыл бұрын
This story will almost certainly be better than the live action TV show. It will probably be the only silver lining in fact.
@Princeofknowelege
@Princeofknowelege 3 жыл бұрын
@@NerdoftheRings I personally want to see an adaption of the two blue wizards. There is a lot of room for interpretation as to what they ended up doing in the east.
@eternalnjem
@eternalnjem 3 жыл бұрын
@@NerdoftheRings how long should the anime movie be to do the story justice?
@NerdoftheRings
@NerdoftheRings 3 жыл бұрын
@@eternalnjem I honestly think it could still be done well in a 90-minute film. Maybe 2 hours tops. No need for a huge 3-hour film.
@Modulates
@Modulates 3 жыл бұрын
"Go on missions of his own" oh yeah, probably to murk hella people
@maverickslastoddworld6476
@maverickslastoddworld6476 3 жыл бұрын
Eat them too
@dimonwhite02
@dimonwhite02 3 жыл бұрын
Recently found out that Helm was the inspiration for the new Brawler class in LOTRO and came here to check out the lore
@matthewaamot2961
@matthewaamot2961 3 жыл бұрын
and Debbie..... DEBBIE!!! Our favorite!
@meeskeessen4848
@meeskeessen4848 3 жыл бұрын
Enjoying the vid as always notr! Could you do a vid on Húrin (and his son Turín) sometime? That would be very cool to see
@NerdoftheRings
@NerdoftheRings 3 жыл бұрын
Definitely! I've been holding off on Turin for a special occasion - perhaps my upcoming 100th video special!
@meeskeessen4848
@meeskeessen4848 3 жыл бұрын
@@NerdoftheRings hype
@Enerdhil
@Enerdhil 3 жыл бұрын
Read the book The Children of Hurin. I think it's the best of the three epic stories in the First Age, because Christopher gives us a single completed story instead of fragments from various versions, making us by ourselves have to sift through it and decide which version makes the most sense.
@meeskeessen4848
@meeskeessen4848 3 жыл бұрын
@@Enerdhil I kinda like it when a story is kind of vague and fragmented, it feels more realistic in my opininon, like with old tales and legends in our world. But I'll defenitely read the children of Hurín sometime, altough I already know the story.
@technic5528
@technic5528 3 жыл бұрын
cool vid! go on with the good work nerd of the rings!
@technic5528
@technic5528 3 жыл бұрын
and where can you find that movie btw?
@Enerdhil
@Enerdhil 3 жыл бұрын
@@technic5528 Fantastic name you have! They just announced the production of the anime film beginning, so it'll be a while before it comes out in theaters.
@technic5528
@technic5528 3 жыл бұрын
@@Enerdhil k, thx btw!
@Docre_T
@Docre_T 3 жыл бұрын
That artwork is gorgeous!!
@indigoyarkindell968
@indigoyarkindell968 3 ай бұрын
I'm mostly looking forward to this story in the movie. I'm mostly afraid we will get a different story.
@AC20sAkimbo
@AC20sAkimbo Ай бұрын
What would happen if Helm punched a camel?
@annaroselarsen4218
@annaroselarsen4218 3 жыл бұрын
Yes I'm very excited to see how it is!
@atolkienista
@atolkienista 3 жыл бұрын
I’m very excited with this forthcoming anime movie! I would like to Helm’s daughter had a name and a voice in the adaptation, similarly to Éowyn (but not equally, of course, I know there is no prophecy in this case, and she should be herself, authentic, etc. etc. etc.).
@NerdoftheRings
@NerdoftheRings 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I can't see Helm's daughter remaining unnamed. That would be weird, haha. I wonder if they'll perhaps pull from another name from the history of Rohan to use. Could be a fun easter egg, like in the Two Towers - the woman with the two kids on the horse is named "Morwen" - the name of Hurin's wife, and the mother of Turin & Nienor from the First Age.
@Enerdhil
@Enerdhil 3 жыл бұрын
Also, they could show Wulf accompanying his father on the few trips for council meetings and trying to flirt with her while his father is dissing Helm for a few hours.
@meduseldtales3383
@meduseldtales3383 3 жыл бұрын
@@NerdoftheRings Morwen was also the name of Theoden's mother who was from Gondor.
@fantasywind3923
@fantasywind3923 3 жыл бұрын
@@NerdoftheRings I would expect other more...Anglo-Saxon/Norse-like name, in the manner of Hild, Helm's sister, his wife and daughter would not have the names such as those used in the naming traditions of Gondor, as Morwen was a name that appears to be used in tradition of re-using old names of Edain of old (Gondor loved to reuse those), Theoden's wife Elfhild, or sister Theodwyn something of the sort.
@th3phoenix
@th3phoenix 2 жыл бұрын
Shows that there are upsides and downsides to committing hard to solving all problems by walking outside alone to beat your foes to death with your bare hands.
@timsearle7695
@timsearle7695 3 жыл бұрын
Would be interested to hear your thoughts on what would have happened if Saruman was in attendance at Rivendell when the fellowship was decided
@NerdoftheRings
@NerdoftheRings 3 жыл бұрын
Since they knew him to be a traitor by then, I'd say there would be a fight that would break out. haha. If you're wondering about a situation where Saruman's treachery wasn't known by then, I would imagine Saruman would volunteer for the Fellowship so he could await his chance to take the ring by force - knowing he couldn't claim it there in Rivendell and his best chance would be in the wild.
@Briximusprimedia
@Briximusprimedia 2 жыл бұрын
I am most excited for Helm Hammerhand himself
@SUPERBACON667
@SUPERBACON667 3 жыл бұрын
I think you should do a video on the Travels of the Balrogs
@vc6094
@vc6094 3 жыл бұрын
winter lasting until march is pretty common up north...
@brookew.h.n5568
@brookew.h.n5568 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! This was amazing!!!
@meritbeforepraise7625
@meritbeforepraise7625 Ай бұрын
The sad thing is that this is not the story we will hear about when the movie releases, because if the writers are to be believed, it is Helm's daughter, not his nephew, who is the hero. Such are the days that history is distorted for those who would do us harm.
@legionaryeagle6409
@legionaryeagle6409 3 жыл бұрын
Great as usual ....Do you have anything on Gil Galad ?
@TheMetalHeadbangger
@TheMetalHeadbangger 3 жыл бұрын
man that was epic
@Mr.Yoda66
@Mr.Yoda66 3 ай бұрын
Awesome video!
@seanmacdonald3663
@seanmacdonald3663 3 жыл бұрын
Fun watch on onering torn Tuesday’s
@danielkerr910
@danielkerr910 3 жыл бұрын
I just have this feeling they are going to do shadow of war lore and make him one of the nine
@handsinthefire
@handsinthefire 3 жыл бұрын
As much as I disliked a lot of the "free writing" for Shadow of War, their rendition of Helm was pretty neat.
@nimarus3118
@nimarus3118 Жыл бұрын
Helm Hammerhand, the GigaChad of Middle-Earth
@Rizu-kc3ze
@Rizu-kc3ze 2 жыл бұрын
Next video on Eomer!!
@irinabiryulya4136
@irinabiryulya4136 3 жыл бұрын
So cool😯😍😍😍
@earendilthemariner5546
@earendilthemariner5546 3 жыл бұрын
I just want First/Second Age games/movies. The Silmarillion is not enough. Id like an open world game set before, during, and after the War of Wrath
@witoldschwenke9492
@witoldschwenke9492 2 жыл бұрын
Helm was a fool to so hot headedly kill a man not sparing a thought to the consequences
@FacundoTupac
@FacundoTupac 3 жыл бұрын
Does this answer where was Gondor when the Westfold fell or was Théoden refering to something else?
@NerdoftheRings
@NerdoftheRings 3 жыл бұрын
Great question! It does not. Theoden was referring to an attack that occurred in the preceding weeks. It is kind of an ongoing thing where Gondor doesn't help because they can't - pretty much every time Rohan is in trouble, Gondor is facing enemies of their own.
@FacundoTupac
@FacundoTupac 3 жыл бұрын
@@NerdoftheRings Typical Gondor excuses 😂 Thanks for answering, love everything you've put out to educate us. Is the book mentioned here part of the unfinished tales or is it another independent book? EDIT: nevermind, just saw it's part of Return of the King appendix
@ratkeller9608
@ratkeller9608 3 жыл бұрын
@@NerdoftheRings GOndor realizing after the first two times they couldnt send help, that a third would never occur, and post permanent a division in Rohan.
@fantasywind3923
@fantasywind3923 3 жыл бұрын
@@FacundoTupac well there is certain purpose and organization behind the attacks that divide the allies, it's clear mark of meddling of Sauron, we know for sure that he orchestrated several invasions on Gondor in the past even when our dear Dark Lord was in hiding (Sauron's emissaries stirred Wainriders and organized their alliance with Haradrim and Variags of Khand, we also know that Sauron instigated Haradrim invasions too), Sauron was no doubt pulling the strings to have the two places attacked simultaneously. Divide and conquer, this way there was always a greater chance of destroying your enemies. But of course whenever Gondor is able to, it does send help to Rohan as in this case: "In the days of Beren, the nineteenth Steward, an even greater peril came upon Gondor. Three great fleets, long prepared, came up from Umbar and the Harad, and assailed the coasts of Gondor in great force; and the enemy made many landings, even as far north as the mouth of the Isen. At the same time the Rohirrim were assailed from the west and the east, and their land was overrun, and they were driven into the dales of the White Mountains. In that year (2758) the Long Winter began with cold and great snows out of the North and the East which lasted for almost five months. Helm Hammerhand of Rohan and both his sons perished in that war; and there was misery and death in Eriador and in Rohan. But in Gondor south of the mountains things were less evil, and before spring came Beregond son of Beren had overcome the invaders. At once he sent aid to Rohan. He was the greatest captain that had arisen in Gondor since Boromir; and when he succeeded his father (2763) Gondor began to recover its strength. But Rohan was slower to be healed of the hurts that it had received. It was for this reason that Beren welcomed Saruman, and gave to him the keys of Orthanc; and from that year on (2759) Saruman dwelt in Isengard." ... "The Eastern invaders perished or withdrew; and there came help at last from Gondor, by the roads both east and west of the mountains. Before the year (2759) was ended the Dunlendings were driven out, even from Isengard; and then Fréaláf became king." And there were other times when they aided Rohan (and sometimes this aid was also financial as form of recompense): "14. Folcwine. When he became king the Rohirrim had recovered their strength. He reconquered the west-march (between Adorn and Isen) that Dunlendings had occupied. Rohan had received great help from Gondor in the evil days. When, therefore, he heard that the Haradrim were assailing Gondor with great strength, he sent many men to the help of the Steward. He wished to lead them himself, but was dissuaded, and his twin sons Folcred and Fastred (born 2858) went in his stead. They fell side by side in battle in Ithilien (2885). Túrin II of Gondor sent to Folcwine a rich weregild of gold."
@chrisw6164
@chrisw6164 3 жыл бұрын
Helm Hammerhand with the savage roasts.
@larryseymour6715
@larryseymour6715 3 жыл бұрын
Not looking forward to the cartoon, but enjoyed this video
@hazbojangles2681
@hazbojangles2681 3 жыл бұрын
Hopefully more people will enjoy Lord of the rings after this is released
@hazbojangles2681
@hazbojangles2681 3 жыл бұрын
@Gungey Entertainment don’t worry you will get it. I would start with reading or watching about the First age, Second age and Third Age in general and then start with the more well known characters like Melkor or Sauron and once you have the basics down I would then start to learn about characters like this.
@xristos-mariostsivos3698
@xristos-mariostsivos3698 3 жыл бұрын
When the video Maps of Middle-Earth: The Third Age will be released ???
@LightingbladeShen
@LightingbladeShen 3 жыл бұрын
Well thanks Nerdoftherings...now I know the plot of the animated movie coming up
@HLR4th
@HLR4th 3 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure why, but the War of the Rohirrim picture reminds me simultaneously of PJ trilogy and Ralph Bakshi's The Lord of the Rings. I can't wait and glad you will be here to be our guide!
@Konigwilson123
@Konigwilson123 3 жыл бұрын
When is the film coming out
@proto-badger1075
@proto-badger1075 Жыл бұрын
More of the Rohirrim
@spencerwebb7992
@spencerwebb7992 2 жыл бұрын
I kinda like the nazgul story of helm hammerhand
@MrSimeonk
@MrSimeonk 3 жыл бұрын
Some one should think about finishing the animated version of The Lord Of The Rings made in the 70s. It finished at end of the 2nd book so more excited for that. Good video here but not such an inspiring era to bring to screen regards the project unless you are a huge Rohan fan.
@Royal_Giant_o7
@Royal_Giant_o7 2 жыл бұрын
He becomes a Nazgul 😬
@Alex-vl5es
@Alex-vl5es 3 жыл бұрын
I named my Isuzu trooper Helmstag in honor of Helm Hammerhand
@foobloo101
@foobloo101 3 жыл бұрын
Is it gonna be on Amazon prime?
@NerdoftheRings
@NerdoftheRings 3 жыл бұрын
Nope - this will be a theatrical release from New Line/Warner Bros Animation! Totally different company. Turns out, WB has the rights to make films, while Amazon has the rights to make series.
@foobloo101
@foobloo101 3 жыл бұрын
Oh my goodness! Every LOTR film that's come out so far my brothers and I all go to see together. If this comes to Canada I am dragging my wife along :D
@timwodzynski7234
@timwodzynski7234 3 жыл бұрын
Why is Edoras known as the mark?
@fixmix9857
@fixmix9857 2 жыл бұрын
where is gondor?
@tathemrelag3123
@tathemrelag3123 3 жыл бұрын
TBH, Helm's kinda the bigger asshole here. Sure, Freca was definitely in the wrong by _demanding_ that Helm's daughter be married to his son, and he probably would've ended up escalating things if his demands were refused. But murdering Freca and essentially declaring a war of genocide against the Dunlendings makes it pretty hard to sympathize with Helm.
@NerdoftheRings
@NerdoftheRings 3 жыл бұрын
One thing to clarify here is that Helm does not declare a war of genocide against the Dunlendings after killing Freca. He declares that Wulf and his house are enemies of Rohan - not the Dunlendings themselves. Granted, the Rohirrim and Dunlendings were already in a state of conflict and had been since before Helm was born.
@fantasywind3923
@fantasywind3923 3 жыл бұрын
When it comes to Dunlendings by the time of the reign of Helm, Dunlendings already years before first invaded and took over Isengard (which was in the hands of gondorian wardens previously) and Helm had the present threat encroaching upon his borders but Freca was actually a Rohirrim lord with touch of Dunlendish blood, and a descent of king Freawine so Freca was actually more of a rebellious Rohir lord, and in this scenario it is the closest thing to political civil conflict in Rohan, the family of Freca ruled large swath of land and already were defying the king. Freca proved to be very ambitious and so the demands he made of the king were bolder and bolder over time. The West-march the province of land around river Adorn was established as part of the boundaries of kingdom of Rohan already at the time of Eorl the Young. King Helm actually invited Freca to his royal councils and Freca only did when it suited him, he was already defying him and working for increasing his own power, but at least Helm still considered his influence and significance, Freca threatening the king openly also added to the conflict, and in fact Helm killing him with one punch may have been actually not with intention of killing him but merely punishing, but Helm was so strong that this single blow killed Freca. Wulf and those who would be his followers were then effectively exiles.
@chriswilson56
@chriswilson56 3 жыл бұрын
What book is this video based on ?...
@astronmr20
@astronmr20 3 жыл бұрын
Where was Gondor when the Suthburg starved
@kevinkeegan4817
@kevinkeegan4817 3 жыл бұрын
He was called "Helm Horney Hand", but Rohan changed it because of the implications.
@isaacmoto4396
@isaacmoto4396 2 жыл бұрын
Because "Hammerhand" sounds much better than "Wanker"
@michaelshen2803
@michaelshen2803 2 жыл бұрын
Ha ha! Killing men with his hands! That's what I'm talking about!
@fuferito
@fuferito 3 жыл бұрын
"Where was Gondor when the deep snows fell?"
@nilubensonofnimruzir1637
@nilubensonofnimruzir1637 3 жыл бұрын
In all seriousness though, Gondor did send help to Rohan once they dealt with the Corsairs and the Haradrim. "But in Gondor south of the mountains things were less evil, and before spring came Beregond son of Beren had overcome the invaders. At once he sent aid to Rohan... There were great floods after the snows, and the vale of Entwash became a vast fen. The Eastern invaders perished or withdrew; and there came help at last from Gondor, by the roads both east and west of the mountains." - Lord of the Rings, Appendix A
@MistaHexHash
@MistaHexHash 3 жыл бұрын
*"No, my lord Aragorn.. we are alone."*
@EhlistarsWrath
@EhlistarsWrath 3 жыл бұрын
Friendly reminder to our Shadow of War fans- He’s not a Ringwraith ~__~
@fxeconomist
@fxeconomist 3 жыл бұрын
I remember reading he became a Nazgul.
@garytwinem5275
@garytwinem5275 3 жыл бұрын
One of Tolkien's most iconic characters is the hot Goth chick, Shelob.
@Lightice1
@Lightice1 3 жыл бұрын
@@fxeconomist The only place you'd read that is in the game lore. The Nazgûl appeared a thousand years before Isildur's time, and Helm over a thousand years after him. Tolkien never revealed their identities, except Khamûl the Easterling, and the only thing we know about him is the name.
@DIOBrando-ur5we
@DIOBrando-ur5we 3 жыл бұрын
What the hell
@bob5510
@bob5510 3 жыл бұрын
The producer confirmed they're sticking to Tolkein canon after some news source tweeted about the Nazgul thing. It's a cool game but the creative liberties it took were a bit odd lol
@RelevantEd_DrHenderson
@RelevantEd_DrHenderson Ай бұрын
Anyone here realizing that the film has nothing to do with the actual story…….
@Bayard1503
@Bayard1503 Ай бұрын
So no worries... they're not really telling his story in the movie.
@notarmchairhistorian7779
@notarmchairhistorian7779 Ай бұрын
Sigh. Yeah. Yet another one corrupted by "the message".
@Bayard1503
@Bayard1503 Ай бұрын
@@Retaurdé Don't parrot the Drinker, the message as you put it is perfectly fine in the setting of Rohan. They have shieldmaidens, the princess is the cause of the war her role should be expanded. But don't make it all about her if you call it the War.
@starrynight6268
@starrynight6268 Ай бұрын
I don't think that the story is going to center around the princess solely. Helm Hammerhand will play a role which is as important as Theoden too.
@marquisdelafayette-xe1ht
@marquisdelafayette-xe1ht Ай бұрын
@@Bayard1503 “the message” is a higher priority for the studios than the plot. She was unnamed in the book, and this is what this is based off. This is unfaithful treatment of Tolkien, and he would have hated it. “The message” does not fit in here. It does not fit in here. Sure, her role can be expanded, but this is not expansion of the character it is a repeat of “the message”. We already saw this many times. Quoting the Drinker is perfectly fine in this setting. This is mulan in lotr
@marquisdelafayette-xe1ht
@marquisdelafayette-xe1ht Ай бұрын
@@starrynight6268 unlikely
@HeartLockHex
@HeartLockHex 2 жыл бұрын
Helm really said, "let's take this outside" in the poshest way possible.
@isaacchillman11
@isaacchillman11 Ай бұрын
Well here we are….. time for Warner Bros to prove themselves
@marquisdelafayette-xe1ht
@marquisdelafayette-xe1ht Ай бұрын
Did you watch the trailer? The show will not be about Helm, it will be about his unnamed daughter
@CheeseIndex
@CheeseIndex 29 күн бұрын
@@marquisdelafayette-xe1ht oh and also instead of Fréaláf bringing people it will be the daughter and they will be shieldmaidens instead, because why not
@greyworld6242
@greyworld6242 3 жыл бұрын
Damn this dude just one shots a guy and gets a badass nickname just like that! Lol Can we get videos on ungoliant and shelob in the future? “The long winter” Tolkien you rule! And Norse myth rocks! Damn Helm was a cool king even in death.
@fantasywind3923
@fantasywind3923 3 жыл бұрын
I think The Long Winter would have been far better title than The War of the Rohirrim, which sounds more like some lame mobile lotr game (seriously lotr has bad luck when it comes to games, even though the franchise has enormous potential for those, give me a proper open world single player modern graphics AAA RPG and it will be a huge hit!), the Long Winter is actually a crucial event and it sounds more ominous and sets the tone.
@greyworld6242
@greyworld6242 3 жыл бұрын
@@fantasywind3923 yeah or Helm’s Winter.
@martinsvoboda8267
@martinsvoboda8267 3 жыл бұрын
Of course. Gondor ALWAYS has a reason not to be there.
@kellerblair2952
@kellerblair2952 3 жыл бұрын
Except they did come
@fantasywind3923
@fantasywind3923 3 жыл бұрын
Gondor actually did send help: "The Eastern invaders perished or withdrew; and there came help at last from Gondor, by the roads both east and west of the mountains. Before the year (2759) was ended the Dunlendings were driven out, even from Isengard; and then Fréaláf became king." ... ""In the days of Beren, the nineteenth Steward, an even greater peril came upon Gondor. Three great fleets, long prepared, came up from Umbar and the Harad, and assailed the coasts of Gondor in great force; and the enemy made many landings, even as far north as the mouth of the Isen. At the same time the Rohirrim were assailed from the west and the east, and their land was overrun, and they were driven into the dales of the White Mountains. In that year (2758) the Long Winter began with cold and great snows out of the North and the East which lasted for almost five months. Helm Hammerhand of Rohan and both his sons perished in that war; and there was misery and death in Eriador and in Rohan. But in Gondor south of the mountains things were less evil, and before spring came Beregond son of Beren had overcome the invaders. At once he sent aid to Rohan. He was the greatest captain that had arisen in Gondor since Boromir; and when he succeeded his father (2763) Gondor began to recover its strength. But Rohan was slower to be healed of the hurts that it had received. It was for this reason that Beren welcomed Saruman, and gave to him the keys of Orthanc; and from that year on (2759) Saruman dwelt in Isengard." That help was actually significant enough in the later years that several next kings of Rohan felt great gratitude: "14. Folcwine. When he became king the Rohirrim had recovered their strength. He reconquered the west-march (between Adorn and Isen) that Dunlendings had occupied. Rohan had received great help from Gondor in the evil days. When, therefore, he heard that the Haradrim were assailing Gondor with great strength, he sent many men to the help of the Steward. He wished to lead them himself, but was dissuaded, and his twin sons Folcred and Fastred (born 2858) went in his stead. They fell side by side in battle in Ithilien (2885). Túrin II of Gondor sent to Folcwine a rich weregild of gold." Also Saruman helped Rohan deal with immediate aftermath of the Long Winter: 2726-2798 10. Fréaláf Hildeson. In his time Saruman came to Isengard, from which the Dunlendings had been driven. The Rohirrim at first profited by his friendship in the days of dearth and weakness that followed. The Return of the King, LoTR Appendix A, Annals of the Kings and Rulers: The House of Eorl
@ashleycarvell7221
@ashleycarvell7221 3 жыл бұрын
Where was Gondor...
@morpheussandman3984
@morpheussandman3984 2 жыл бұрын
Stop with weaker Gondor of the movies. Gondor did help Rohan in history.
@shotgunsandstakes
@shotgunsandstakes 3 жыл бұрын
I can't wait for this movie!! I love everything about Rohan!
@NerdoftheRings
@NerdoftheRings 3 жыл бұрын
I've been humming Howard Shore's Rohan music to myself ever since the movie was announced!
@shotgunsandstakes
@shotgunsandstakes 3 жыл бұрын
@@NerdoftheRings Ooh, I wish they would use that in the movie! Could they? I just need the Forth Eorlingas soundtrack to play at least once please.
@Enerdhil
@Enerdhil 3 жыл бұрын
@@shotgunsandstakes New Line Cinema is producing it, so they should be able to make animated versions of all the places, costumes, etc., Plus, use the music.
@endermanwithalowercasee
@endermanwithalowercasee 3 жыл бұрын
Fingers crossed that, however unlikely it may be, he does the score for the new movie. Would definitely help seed the fact that it's the same universe as the live action films for those who don't know and also because he'd be composing another Middle Earth movie lol
@spaske4704
@spaske4704 2 жыл бұрын
What movie ?
@jonnygranville281
@jonnygranville281 3 жыл бұрын
We need a Helm Hammerhand to run for president in 2024.
@michaelnash1067
@michaelnash1067 3 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't be much of a contest... The current President is Joe- ...'ficks his finger'
@marleyjr00
@marleyjr00 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah but the Dems would just cheat again.
@CheeseburgerRandy17
@CheeseburgerRandy17 7 ай бұрын
Instead we have Hairpiece Tinyhands
@BrokenFrameProductions
@BrokenFrameProductions 3 жыл бұрын
I wasn't particularly excited about the new film when I first heard of it, but after watching this video, as well as your livestream from the other day, I've changed my stance completely. This movie has potential to be amazing, and I'm really excited to see another movie in the canon of the LOTR/Hobbit films. I still don't like that they're calling it "The Lord of the Rings: The War of the Rohirrim" though, but I get that that's just for brand recognition.
@joeybox0rox649
@joeybox0rox649 3 жыл бұрын
Such an intensely legendary tale, which only you can tell. The visual gave me goosebumps, knowing Helm died on his feet. Can't wait to see this on video in my man cave. Thank you Matt!!👍👍
@kotarojujo2737
@kotarojujo2737 3 жыл бұрын
I don't understand why some people get mad when Tolkien works is adapted to Anime. I mean we already got two animated adaptation before right? Even for Rankin Bass version it have some anime-ish style (just look at eowyn), and yet people never complaint.
@Princeofknowelege
@Princeofknowelege 3 жыл бұрын
That Rankin Bass was animated by a Japanese studio that was later bought and renamed to Studio Ghibli and maintained most of the animators who worked on the Hobbit.
@randyrentner9613
@randyrentner9613 3 жыл бұрын
There were lots of complaints when the movies came out.
@quartzking3997
@quartzking3997 3 жыл бұрын
Anime wasn’t as scorned then as it is now. It’s like a dirty word for many people on the internet now thanks to its fan base and the connotations that some works have given to the name ‘anime’
@kingnhonj954
@kingnhonj954 3 жыл бұрын
Its not the anime I have a problem with its that I have zero faith in that the show will be good or faithful to the lore. I actually am a fan of some anime I even have anime godzilla as my profile picture.
@sephmanatac7702
@sephmanatac7702 3 жыл бұрын
I cant wait for the animated film, im so excited!!! I've been an avid fan of the Tolkien Mythology Stories... Never tired of watching LOTR trilogy & the Hobbit trilogy...
@NinKitsune
@NinKitsune 3 жыл бұрын
Great video and info like always. I can picture him stalking through the snow taking down the dunlendings one by one and blowing his horn to let them know he's coming. I hope this is in the movie.
@MrMarvellousMark
@MrMarvellousMark 3 жыл бұрын
I know extremely little about this character so thanks a lot for making it clear Mellon! Keep it up My fellow Middle Earth nerd. Ps. Really excited about the new animated movie coming out soon!
@CanalCameraFilme
@CanalCameraFilme Ай бұрын
"By covering the life and travels of Helm Hammerhand" scratch that, actually the life and travels of HELM'S DAUGHTER 😅 (still want to see it, obviously)
@Belerez
@Belerez 3 жыл бұрын
So cool . Such a good time to be a LotR fan
@NerdoftheRings
@NerdoftheRings 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed! Exciting times!
@misaelfraga8196
@misaelfraga8196 3 жыл бұрын
Depends IF they don't twist Tolkiens work with some modern political agends.
@orrointhewise87
@orrointhewise87 3 жыл бұрын
Wow props to u for getting this done mere days after the announcement 🤣 I guess being hasty does have its advantages lol
@catheryndodson4825
@catheryndodson4825 3 жыл бұрын
Dude, you must have worked all day & night on this to get it out in time! We appreciate your content and the work you pour into every video!
@allanikupu6526
@allanikupu6526 3 жыл бұрын
They should have got Peter Jackson to make a movie on that as well
@andyd6431
@andyd6431 3 жыл бұрын
I can’t wait for the upcoming anime adaptation of this man
@blueshattrick
@blueshattrick Күн бұрын
I'm *much* more interested in his daughter, mentioned a single time by Tolkien and never even given a name. She sounds FASCINATING! 🎉
@pseudonym8655
@pseudonym8655 13 күн бұрын
Weird… no mention of anime ladies…
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