Helm Hammerhand and the War of the Rohirrim | Tolkien Explained

[@EhlistarsWrath]

“The horn of Helm Hammerhand- shall sound in the deep! One last time~” With knowledge of the lore of Helm, Theoden’s quote seems much more cool

[@evanripple3230]

Gives me goosebumps every time

[@handsomefatboy]

I know right! I just watched that clip again because of this new knowledge of lore of Helm’s Deeps lol

[@Tilnaor]

I've read the Hobbit before the LotR and even befor that the Silmarillion, in chronological order. Remembering those stories during the book, every little thing got deeper meaning. So the movies, filled with refences which understandable only for who are deep in the lore

[@yourmomshouse6984]

Now for wrath! Now for ruin! And the red Dawn!

[@yourmomshouse6984]

YES!

[@Paulafan5]

Helm: Can I have a word with you outside? Proceeds to beat a man to death with his bare hands, leading to a bloody war and ultimately his own death. Helm: Worth it.

[@MrBendylaw]

It only took one hand.

[@KororaPenguin]

Imagine how deadly he'd be if he knew martial arts from Easternesse.

[@BlimpMcGee]

It was one punch, the fat man was weak

[@kingkanakapino269]

@@BlimpMcGeethe fat man should have called Rohan PD

[@patrickc9726]

I guess one might say you NAILED Hammerhand's review

[@timo9533]

GET OOOOOOUT!!!!!

[@rcnyoplait]

I'm disappointed in myself for laughing 😆

[@davidwalker8195]

Nah, he HAMMERED it home.

[@michaelnash1067]

Oooo, ...my side...

[@ronlittlejohn8046]

Patrick, please see yourself out.

[@shadowolfnara4749]

Coming back after the movie watched last night and they did wonderful work on Helm Hammerhand an absolute unit. And when he's going winter Rambo perfect and that last stand was handed beautifully

[@HeartLockHex]

Helm really said, "let's take this outside" in the poshest way possible.

[@NerdoftheRings]

What moment from Helm Hammerhand's life are you MOST excited to see in the War of the Rohirrim animated film? I'm glad I was able to pull this off for today's release - I decided to change topics on Thursday after the WOTR announcement, so producing this on a 2-day timeline is a new record for me. haha.

[@ceciliafidela4777]

EVERYTHIIINGGGGG

[@jonasb104]

The inevitable last scene of him being found frozen in Helms-deep and being put to rest under a hill of Simbelmyne.😢

[@Enerdhil]

This will be ANIME, so I can't wait for that epic punch. I just hope he doesn't yell, "KAMEHAMEHAAAAAAAAA!" before doing so.

[@DavetheNord]

His fist! :D

[@rangerofthenorth1970]

His final batlle and his nephew killing Wulf

[@fuferito]

"Where was Gondor when the deep snows fell?"

[@nilubensonofnimruzir1637]

In all seriousness though, Gondor did send help to Rohan once they dealt with the Corsairs and the Haradrim. "But in Gondor south of the mountains things were less evil, and before spring came Beregond son of Beren had overcome the invaders. At once he sent aid to Rohan... There were great floods after the snows, and the vale of Entwash became a vast fen. The Eastern invaders perished or withdrew; and there came help at last from Gondor, by the roads both east and west of the mountains." - Lord of the Rings, Appendix A

[@MistaHexHash]

*"No, my lord Aragorn.. we are alone."*

[@LandStrider23]

There's something about enjoying both a fine cup of Joe, some Pipeweed, and your presentation. Thank you for sharing, well done friend.

[@chrisw6164]

Rohan: “Where was Gondor?” Gondor: “Er, it was snowing, we couldn’t make it.” Rohan: “OK Gondor 🙄”

[@brookew.h.n5568]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! WHERE WAS GONDOR! HAHAHAHA

[@technic5528]

yep, that must be the reason lol

[@fantasywind3923]

Where was Gondor? As always under attack! :) But no worries they were only delayed ;). "In the days of Beren, the nineteenth Steward, an even greater peril came upon Gondor. Three great fleets, long prepared, came up from Umbar and the Harad, and assailed the coasts of Gondor in great force; and the enemy made many landings, even as far north as the mouth of the Isen. At the same time the Rohirrim were assailed from the west and the east, and their land was overrun, and they were driven into the dales of the White Mountains. In that year (2758) the Long Winter began with cold and great snows out of the North and the East which lasted for almost five months. Helm Hammerhand of Rohan and both his sons perished in that war; and there was misery and death in Eriador and in Rohan. But in Gondor south of the mountains things were less evil, and before spring came Beregond son of Beren had overcome the invaders. At once he sent aid to Rohan. He was the greatest captain that had arisen in Gondor since Boromir; and when he succeeded his father (2763) Gondor began to recover its strength. But Rohan was slower to be healed of the hurts that it had received. It was for this reason that Beren welcomed Saruman, and gave to him the keys of Orthanc; and from that year on (2759) Saruman dwelt in Isengard." The Return of the King, LoTR Appendix A, Annals of the Kings and Rulers: Gondor and the Heirs of Anárion: The Stewards .... "Four years later (2758) great troubles came to Rohan, and no help could be sent from Gondor, for three fleets of the Corsairs attacked it and there was war on all its coasts. At the same time Rohan was again invaded from the East, and the Dunlendings seeing their chance came over the Isen and down from Isengard. It was soon known that Wulf was their leader. They were in great force, for they were joined by enemies of Gondor that landed in the mouths of Lefnui and Isen. The Rohirrim were defeated and their land was overrun; and those who were not slain or enslaved fled to the dales of the mountains. Helm was driven back with great loss from the Crossings of Isen and took refuge in the Hornburg and the ravine behind (which was after known as Helm’s Deep). There he was besieged. Wulf took Edoras and sat in Meduseld and called himself king. There Haleth Helm’s son fell, last of all, defending the doors. Return of the Kings - Book 7, Appendix A: Annals of the Kings and Rulers, II House of Eorl ... "The Eastern invaders perished or withdrew; and there came help at last from Gondor, by the roads both east and west of the mountains. Before the year (2759) was ended the Dunlendings were driven out, even from Isengard; and then Fréaláf became king."

[@BOG0690]

Heeeeeeeeeeeres Gondor ! *Blows horn of Gondor*

[@timwodzynski7234]

🤣🤣🤣

[@thiagopereira8125]

The first thing I thought when you mentioned “The war of the Rohirrim” I thought “The horn of helm hammerhand will sound in the deep one last time!”

[@ChiaraSiasat]

Loved this! I’m super excited for this animated movie. Helm was such a badass King and I’m glad we finally get to see his story being told!

[@pietervanommen7955]

The only downside it being animated imo. But I guess the budget would be too high and we don't want another RoP fiasco.

[@observationsfromthebunker9639]

Good walk-through of the story of Helm Hammerhand. The thought of seeing this story as an anime movie really thrills me. Also thanks for featuring and naming Turner Mohan, one of my favorite fan artists, who deserves more publicity for his work.

[@MayaraKoga]

I went to the appendixes today and read this story to prepare for the movie and now I'm here listening to it from you! And what a delight! Your narration brought tears to my eyes! Tolkien stories are the best and you do a great job by bringing them to us like you do!! Thank you very much!!

[@rangerofthenorth1970]

One of the badass characters in all of legendarium....In this new anime I would really liked to see more about history of Rohan, more of Helms Deep and in simply more and more of Middleearth, I really hope that if this movie does well we can get a franchise, this is like a door for more and more movies and stories about Middlearth!!!

[@stuffhobbes6187]

Is there a more bad-a** name for a character than "HELM HAMMERHAND?"

[@joeybox0rox649]

Such an intensely legendary tale, which only you can tell. The visual gave me goosebumps, knowing Helm died on his feet. Can't wait to see this on video in my man cave. Thank you Matt!!👍👍

[@SirEchoGaming]

War of the Rohirrim is a great adaptation of Helms story. Even though Hera is the main character, Helm has plenty of on screen time to tell his story.

[@EhlistarsWrath]

Friendly reminder to our Shadow of War fans- He’s not a Ringwraith ~__~

[@fxeconomist]

I remember reading he became a Nazgul.

[@garytwinem5275]

One of Tolkien's most iconic characters is the hot Goth chick, Shelob.

[@Lightice1]

@@fxeconomist The only place you'd read that is in the game lore. The Nazgûl appeared a thousand years before Isildur's time, and Helm over a thousand years after him. Tolkien never revealed their identities, except Khamûl the Easterling, and the only thing we know about him is the name.

[@DIOBrando-ur5we]

What the hell

[@bob5510]

The producer confirmed they're sticking to Tolkein canon after some news source tweeted about the Nazgul thing. It's a cool game but the creative liberties it took were a bit odd lol

[@Selrahc_69]

Lord of the Rings Online recently added a new class called the "Brawler". This class uses no weapons except your hands so I wasn't too excited when I first heard about it but then they explained that it was "inspired" by Helm Hammerhand and I was immediately "inspired" to create a new character - lol For some reason, roleplaying a Brawler with Helm Hammerhand as my guide just created such an enjoyable experience. I romped my way through 140 levels in record time (for me) enjoying every single crushing blow. Watching this video got me a little emotional - I really adore the story of Helm Hammerhand and feel so fortunate to have LotRO and now this upcoming film to spend more time in his story. Thank you Nerd of the Rings!

[@shotgunsandstakes]

I can't wait for this movie!! I love everything about Rohan!

[@NerdoftheRings]

I've been humming Howard Shore's Rohan music to myself ever since the movie was announced!

[@shotgunsandstakes]

@@NerdoftheRings Ooh, I wish they would use that in the movie! Could they? I just need the Forth Eorlingas soundtrack to play at least once please.

[@Enerdhil]

@@shotgunsandstakes New Line Cinema is producing it, so they should be able to make animated versions of all the places, costumes, etc., Plus, use the music.

[@endermanwithalowercasee]

Fingers crossed that, however unlikely it may be, he does the score for the new movie. Would definitely help seed the fact that it's the same universe as the live action films for those who don't know and also because he'd be composing another Middle Earth movie lol

[@spaske4704]

What movie ?

[@TheCinderestBlockAround]

It's a funny coincidence that I asked for this video only days before we knew about the War of the Rohirrim film 😅 thank you, even though I wasn't the cause of it!

[@sephmanatac7702]

I cant wait for the animated film, im so excited!!! I've been an avid fan of the Tolkien Mythology Stories... Never tired of watching LOTR trilogy & the Hobbit trilogy...

[@gdeezy]

I've just stumbled upon your channel a few days ago and I'm absolutely enthralled. By far my favorite content to date. I just wanted to express my appreciation and admiration for the work you're are doing. And I'm sure it means as much to others as well. Just wanted you to know that you're appreciated. Thank you sir.

[@Enerdhil]

I'm so glad you read those lines of Helm and Freca. So epic! You have done a great job. However, you said Helm's son Haleth died before the doors of Suthburg. He actually died defending Meduseld from Wulf's attack. He was the last to be killed before Wulf sat on the throne.

[@MikeJones__Who]

The battle of going balls deep was truly a master piece

[@dbriley18]

it is such a small detail; but the fact that his grave grew with the most Simbelmynë to make it appear like it was covered in snow, is so awesome. can't even explain the feels

[@BrokenFrameProductions]

I wasn't particularly excited about the new film when I first heard of it, but after watching this video, as well as your livestream from the other day, I've changed my stance completely. This movie has potential to be amazing, and I'm really excited to see another movie in the canon of the LOTR/Hobbit films. I still don't like that they're calling it "The Lord of the Rings: The War of the Rohirrim" though, but I get that that's just for brand recognition.

[@NinKitsune]

Great video and info like always. I can picture him stalking through the snow taking down the dunlendings one by one and blowing his horn to let them know he's coming. I hope this is in the movie.

[@nerdwatch1017]

Dwarfs are kinda my favorite tied with those of Gondor for the mad skills at carving out mountains and turning them into massive fortresses!!!

[@reynmoran6722]

The maps you use are such a great reference for us to be able to relate places to people and times. Just a great way to teach and show this lore!

[@victorbenner539]

I am subscribed to your channel and have enjoyed many of your videos, they have helped me to better understand Tolkien's work. This stands out as truly wonderful because I had never considered how Helms Deep earned it's name and now I do. I just sit in wonder at times how many more stories could have told had the master of these tales lived but a few more years. I thank his son for sharing with us what he did. Rest in peace J.R.R. Tolkien. ⛅👍🍻

[@catheryndodson4825]

Dude, you must have worked all day & night on this to get it out in time! We appreciate your content and the work you pour into every video!

[@Magicman1625]

Just saw the movie it was pretty faithful honestly the main difference is they made the sons deaths more interesting and gave Hera more to do and framed her to be like Eowyn and even had Eowyn narrating! Solid 9/10 for me!

[@theadro91]

Likewise and agreed. Although prepare to be bombarded by some morons waffling on about it being ‘woke’ or something because of Hera.

[@Magicman1625]

@theadro91 I know people are being so unreasonable the fact that she wasn't really represented makes her a good jumping off point to get a view into the events from the eyes of someone new Plus considering in the lore this all started with the marriage proposal to her it would be weird to have her just sorta sitting there twittling her thumbs while the men Duke it out why have Eowyn narrate if the tale didn't channel her energy! Just don't try her stew 😂

[@PrayerWarrior4]

What about Helm's death?

[@kirbymarchbarcena]

The Horn of Helm Hammerhand sounds mystical...add some loudspeakers and this would have left Rohan in frenzy

[@backstagebanana3054]

First, I loved learning that Haleth, and his father Hama, were named after Helm’s two sons. That alone gives much more depth to the Two Towers movie. Something I want to see in this animated film is a callback to the film The Two Towers. The sungleam, the first in many days, that comes on the morning when Helm is discovered dead while standing at his post, it makes me think of in Two Towers when “first light comes on the fifth day”. If we got the same shot of that sungleam coming in from the east when Helm is discovered, that would be an amazing film reference!

[@Loz800]

Haleth was also the name of one of the original heroes of Men in the First Age.

[@justanicemelon9963]

Btw Háma was also the name of Theoden's gatekeeper in the books. Háma died in the battle of Helms Deep against Saruman's orcs.

[@benharmon9575]

Damn, that's some badass background that I didn't know. Awesome video!

[@ashton7845]

man i only just recently found your content and my god it really does help me sleep. (in a good way)

[@Enerdhil]

Try watching it when fully awake; it's much better.😁

[@travishuckaby4687]

I just realized, thanks to your video, that the lines that the kings of Rohan are buried in have that dual meaning!

[@nerdwatch1017]

Man Rohan should talk with Gimli to see about bringing many dwarfs to helms deep to help carve more living space inside those caves. Then in the front area carve out hall’s and ledges along the mountain walls high up so to give archers room to sound on 3 sides any army to attack helms deep.

[@nisargvasa4494]

Your videos have very strongly renewed my interest in Middle Earth! Also, the production quality is top-notch well done and keep up the great work!

[@martinsvoboda8267]

Of course. Gondor ALWAYS has a reason not to be there.

[@kellerblair2952]

Except they did come

[@fantasywind3923]

Gondor actually did send help: "The Eastern invaders perished or withdrew; and there came help at last from Gondor, by the roads both east and west of the mountains. Before the year (2759) was ended the Dunlendings were driven out, even from Isengard; and then Fréaláf became king." ... ""In the days of Beren, the nineteenth Steward, an even greater peril came upon Gondor. Three great fleets, long prepared, came up from Umbar and the Harad, and assailed the coasts of Gondor in great force; and the enemy made many landings, even as far north as the mouth of the Isen. At the same time the Rohirrim were assailed from the west and the east, and their land was overrun, and they were driven into the dales of the White Mountains. In that year (2758) the Long Winter began with cold and great snows out of the North and the East which lasted for almost five months. Helm Hammerhand of Rohan and both his sons perished in that war; and there was misery and death in Eriador and in Rohan. But in Gondor south of the mountains things were less evil, and before spring came Beregond son of Beren had overcome the invaders. At once he sent aid to Rohan. He was the greatest captain that had arisen in Gondor since Boromir; and when he succeeded his father (2763) Gondor began to recover its strength. But Rohan was slower to be healed of the hurts that it had received. It was for this reason that Beren welcomed Saruman, and gave to him the keys of Orthanc; and from that year on (2759) Saruman dwelt in Isengard." That help was actually significant enough in the later years that several next kings of Rohan felt great gratitude: "14. Folcwine. When he became king the Rohirrim had recovered their strength. He reconquered the west-march (between Adorn and Isen) that Dunlendings had occupied. Rohan had received great help from Gondor in the evil days. When, therefore, he heard that the Haradrim were assailing Gondor with great strength, he sent many men to the help of the Steward. He wished to lead them himself, but was dissuaded, and his twin sons Folcred and Fastred (born 2858) went in his stead. They fell side by side in battle in Ithilien (2885). Túrin II of Gondor sent to Folcwine a rich weregild of gold." Also Saruman helped Rohan deal with immediate aftermath of the Long Winter: 2726-2798 10. Fréaláf Hildeson. In his time Saruman came to Isengard, from which the Dunlendings had been driven. The Rohirrim at first profited by his friendship in the days of dearth and weakness that followed. The Return of the King, LoTR Appendix A, Annals of the Kings and Rulers: The House of Eorl

[@ashleycarvell7221]

Where was Gondor...

[@morpheussandman3984]

Stop with weaker Gondor of the movies. Gondor did help Rohan in history.

[@blueshattrick]

I'm *much* more interested in his daughter, mentioned a single time by Tolkien and never even given a name. She sounds FASCINATING! 🎉

[@Magicman1625]

He says her name in the video?

[@Kevin-i6t4y]

Well, you are in luck then. Most of us thought the movie would be mainly about Helm, but it is all about this nameless woman that nobody but yourself cares about.

[@Magicman1625]

@@Kevin-i6t4y Yall are so petty 🤣

[@andyd6431]

I can’t wait for the upcoming anime adaptation of this man

[@KingTutt253]

Love your videos and most of all your use of tone to describe events with the background music love it!

[@kotarojujo2737]

I don't understand why some people get mad when Tolkien works is adapted to Anime. I mean we already got two animated adaptation before right? Even for Rankin Bass version it have some anime-ish style (just look at eowyn), and yet people never complaint.

[@Princeofknowelege]

That Rankin Bass was animated by a Japanese studio that was later bought and renamed to Studio Ghibli and maintained most of the animators who worked on the Hobbit.

[@randyrentner9613]

There were lots of complaints when the movies came out.

[@quartzking3997]

Anime wasn’t as scorned then as it is now. It’s like a dirty word for many people on the internet now thanks to its fan base and the connotations that some works have given to the name ‘anime’

[@kingnhonj954]

Its not the anime I have a problem with its that I have zero faith in that the show will be good or faithful to the lore. I actually am a fan of some anime I even have anime godzilla as my profile picture.

[@mikeforester3963]

Helm Hammerhand's story sounds like legend straight out of the Edda.

[@Hardrada88]

Awesome!!:) i always did love the Rohirrum ever since reading the books as a child. Well remember sitting in the cinema and when Theodan and his riders arrived at Gondor..swear you could hear a pin drop. Not one breath in during that scene in the film

[@greyworld6242]

Damn this dude just one shots a guy and gets a badass nickname just like that! Lol Can we get videos on ungoliant and shelob in the future? “The long winter” Tolkien you rule! And Norse myth rocks! Damn Helm was a cool king even in death.

[@fantasywind3923]

I think The Long Winter would have been far better title than The War of the Rohirrim, which sounds more like some lame mobile lotr game (seriously lotr has bad luck when it comes to games, even though the franchise has enormous potential for those, give me a proper open world single player modern graphics AAA RPG and it will be a huge hit!), the Long Winter is actually a crucial event and it sounds more ominous and sets the tone.

[@greyworld6242]

@@fantasywind3923 yeah or Helm’s Winter.

[@justindavis-smith8462]

They forgot that King Helm has a daughter princess Hera, who is the kingdom of Rohan only hope

[@CybershamanX]

I would love to hear you talk about the extended battle scene from the book The Fall of Gondolin. I recently finished it and while a good portion of it is pretty "heady" the section that greatly expands the story of Tuor was amazing. There were parts that moved me greatly, sometimes even to near tears. ESPECIALLY, the tragic eponymous Fall of Gondolin. In my opinion, it makes the battle of the Pelennor Fields look like a mere skirmish! And the depictions of immense bravery and tragic loss had me both on the edge of my seat and once again finding myself becoming misty eyed as I rooted for the doomed and betrayed defenders. It's almost surreal as horrible acts of violence occur while the many fountains in the city continue bubbling and spraying along as the battle rages around them right up to the very end (also playing a part in allowing the refugees to escape under the cover of their steam). Oh, and there are Balrogs. LOTS of Balrogs. Dragons, too. Also, there are metal beasts that Melkor creates that I find the most interesting. The are literally living armored tanks/personnel carriers. There are several scenes where they appear. It's fascinating stuff that isn't found in the Silmarillion. Of course, the depiction of the ambush of the escaping elves is great, too. Especially since it involves an epic one on one battle with yet another Balrog. ;)

[@nilubensonofnimruzir1637]

Yeah, Morgoth's dragon APCs were pretty metal as fuck. I haven't read the Book of Lost Tales version of the Fall of Gondolin in like five years but that little tidbit was what stuck in my head after all this time.

[@CybershamanX]

@@nilubensonofnimruzir1637 Get a copy of Fall of Gondolin. It was the last book Chris Tolkien put together before he died last year. It was published in 2018. Seriously, you will not be disappointed. 😉

[@endermanwithalowercasee]

The Fall of Gondolin is my favorite Middle Earth story!

[@johnnyfreitas7297]

Always a pleasure to watch or videos! Thank you so much for your work!🙏

[@ferdinandmiles529]

Ive watched the film is fantastic I just watched it 10 mins ago. Ill rewatch in theatres again this week Sunday after church.

[@huntclanhunt9697]

Calling it now, this video is 100× better than War of the Rohirrim will be.

[@barteleousi]

I'm super excited for the movie even if they are taking a lot of liberties. All I need is Hammerhand stalking Dundlendings in blizzards with his bare hands to make me happy

[@SIMONVDH]

It seems quite promising though!

[@orrointhewise87]

Wow props to u for getting this done mere days after the announcement 🤣 I guess being hasty does have its advantages lol

[@taylorbryan7697]

Love your videos! You should do one of the life and background of Boromir.

[@glockparaastra]

I'm here after the Philippa interview. I totally missed news about this new movie. Exciting!

[@MrRav1247]

Yup the trailer brought me here cant wait for December 2024

[@ProfRavenSteel]

Most awaited dude. Thanks 👍

[@adarshkamoda9183]

Helm Hammerhand was the living incarnation of "At close quarters, a fist is better than any gun". Destiny 2 reference.

[@Belerez]

So cool . Such a good time to be a LotR fan

[@NerdoftheRings]

Agreed! Exciting times!

[@misaelfraga8196]

Depends IF they don't twist Tolkiens work with some modern political agends.

[@isaacchillman11]

Well here we are….. time for Warner Bros to prove themselves

[@marquisdelafayette-xe1ht]

Did you watch the trailer? The show will not be about Helm, it will be about his unnamed daughter

[@CheeseIndex]

@@marquisdelafayette-xe1ht oh and also instead of Fréaláf bringing people it will be the daughter and they will be shieldmaidens instead, because why not

[@mysteryman5523]

thx for another great video, as always enjoyed watching it)

[@paladinbob1236]

a good explaination of the history of this important character, much unspoken of it..and certainly looking forward to the film :P

[@orfeas8]

Another amazing story of the glorious Rohan.

[@joshuaperry7199]

I really want to see Balin's campaign to retake Moria. But im just as excited to see this animation.

[@cicknobb5321]

2 days! You did it Matt. Thank you

[@NerdoftheRings]

Thanks! It was a sprint to the finish on this one!

[@jamiegregg9211]

cool video matt enjoyed it

[@georgefranklin8513]

Thank god he has a daughter that is going to save everyone

[@janimation7018]

Prophetic

[@Ms.MD7]

Lol

[@silverghost3250]

Not even remotely what happened. Since you don't gaf, his nephew, the 10th king, is the one that saves everyone. Not her, she only sends a message.

[@joshj867]

I'm going to see the movie tonight. Thanks for an awesome video explaining the lore! Not really sure what to expect from it, but I'm excited all the same. Rohan was always my favorite from the trilogy.

[@CanalCameraFilme]

"By covering the life and travels of Helm Hammerhand" scratch that, actually the life and travels of HELM'S DAUGHTER 😅 (still want to see it, obviously)

[@عبدالرحمنالمالكي-ل7ر]

Information about the film was released today, along with pictures from inside the film, but according to the information received, it seems that the film will not focus on King Helm Hammerhand as a main character, but rather will focus on his daughter Hera, about whom nothing much was mentioned in the novel.

[@logan3093]

Late reply, but she is clearly the device used to be our eyes on the events. Like how bilbo was the perspective in the hobbit, despite it being thorins moment. We will see if it's good, but don't jump to jaded conclusions just yet.

[@MrMarvellousMark]

I know extremely little about this character so thanks a lot for making it clear Mellon! Keep it up My fellow Middle Earth nerd. Ps. Really excited about the new animated movie coming out soon!

[@Fukei_Mono]

The stress in his intonation when he said "as well as the SIXTY year-old book that it's based on."

[@Hanibaltherogue]

Thank you for the great video! The Art was also awesome

[@oSimian]

What a total badass of a man! Epic!

[@geo-fg3bh]

EVERY SINGLE VIDEO I WATCH I HAVE GOOSEBUMPS

[@lightconstruct476]

Will we ever get a video on all things Numenor?? Different kings, geography, beginning & end, rise & fall?? I’d love to see it & I’m sure a lot of others would to!

[@NerdoftheRings]

Definitely! All in good time! 😁

[@lightconstruct476]

@@NerdoftheRingsIluvatar bless! 🙏 😆😆

[@robertstimmel1100]

I am WAY more excited about this than I am for the Amazon show.

[@jonnygranville281]

We need a Helm Hammerhand to run for president in 2024.

[@michaelnash1067]

Wouldn't be much of a contest... The current President is Joe- ...'ficks his finger'

[@marleyjr00]

Yeah but the Dems would just cheat again.

[@CheeseburgerRandy17]

Instead we have Hairpiece Tinyhands

[@elfiefromangelcity6142]

Helm Hammerhand did what every retail worker wishes they could do, and was like, "Now that I'm off the clock, let's step outside."

[@kellerblair2952]

The deeping horn sounding and him hunting the men of Wulf as a snow troll

[@Omashu2425]

RIP Helm Hammerhand. He was a real one.

[@themindakviking]

I *was* excited for this movie. Then the trailer dropped.

[@bookswithbenjamin8902]

😂😂

[@silverghost3250]

Maybe watch it and don't cry? It was great.

[@themindakviking]

@silverghost3250 pattern recognition ≠ crying. They took a completely nameless character and made her the *main* character who does all the things while completely sidelining major characters like Haleth, Hama, and Fraelaf, and relegated the actual main character of the story - Helm freaking Hammerhand - to nothing more than a side character. That's not even close to "great."

[@silverghost3250]

@themindakviking 1. Not nameless, but storyless. 2 she doesn't sideline any of them, they're main characters of the story themselves. And 3 evidently you didn't watch the movie. So get out of here crying for no reason.

[@themindakviking]

@silverghost3250 Helm's daughter was *literally* nameless in Tolkien's writing. The story is about Helm, yet the entire freaking movie is about Hera. Hell, dude, she outright steals Fraelaf's significance and legitimacy by being the one to kill Wulf. Maybe if the studio wasn't out for a simple cash grab to retain their rights to the IP, and maybe if the writers hadn't decided they could write a better story than Tolkien, it could have delivered on its potential. Instead, we got bad fan-fic, where the main appeal is that it's not *as bad* as the Rings of Power. Thems the breaks, bud.

[@kaanaydinay]

Thanks for that ! 🖖

[@jerramrocks9136]

When I watched the movie without understanding the lore, I thought it was alright. Nothing great, but whatever. Now I see something that could've been so much better. Great video. This was my first introduction to you, I'll be checking out your other videos. Keep up the good work.

[@KingKait077]

YOOOOO Helm was a savage. He died standing up like a boss!

[@technic5528]

cool vid! go on with the good work nerd of the rings!

[@technic5528]

and where can you find that movie btw?

[@Enerdhil]

@@technic5528 Fantastic name you have! They just announced the production of the anime film beginning, so it'll be a while before it comes out in theaters.

[@technic5528]

@@Enerdhil k, thx btw!

[@kathleenderidder3302]

Thanks!

[@NerdoftheRings]

Thanks so much for the Super!!

[@dimonwhite02]

Recently found out that Helm was the inspiration for the new Brawler class in LOTRO and came here to check out the lore

[@isaaksimmers7678]

Haha I just goocled this the other day and was like why doesn't he have a video on this one yet hmmmm? Ask and you shall receive!

[@jesuscoyt-munoz2753]

Hello Nerd of the rings. What I’m most excited for in the new movie is either seeing helms story brought into it or an exploration of all the great kings of Rohan before Theoden and Eomer. And I have a question do you think helms daughter also died during the winter or did she pass down a few heirs of her own but they did not want the thrown?

[@NerdoftheRings]

That's a great question! I don't think we are ever told what happened to her. Could she have been killed when Wulf overtook Edoras? Or perhaps she fled to Dunharrow with Frealaf? Makes you wonder about Eowyn's line in the LOTR films: "Women of this country learned long ago that those without swords could still die upon them."

[@jesuscoyt-munoz2753]

@Nerd of the rings thank you. Also I feel like in my head canon helms daughter and heir perhaps let her cousin assume the throne and maybe she made her own royal house like that princess from numenor that gave us elendil and his sons in the second age. Also great job with this video the artwork you used reminded me of Men of The West’s video on Rohan.

[@АнтонОрлов-я1ъ]

We do not actually know, but I think there might be one small hint in the books. Theoden said about Erkenbrand "In him lived again the valour of Helm the Hammerhand". It seems to me that this indicates that Erkenbrand is a descendant of Helm. But since no male descendants of Helm survived, it is reasonable to assume that Erkenbrand was a descendant of Helm's daughter. Another indication of that may be the battle-cry of men of Westfold - "Forth, Helmingas!", where "helmingas" probably means "followers of descendants of Helm". As for why those descendants didn't attempt to seize the throne, it seems that in Rohan only direct male descendants of Eorl had a right to become kings. Eomer was a direct male descendant of Eorl - his ancestor was Eofor, third son of Brego (and according to Theoden he was the last of the House of Eorl). We do not know if Frealaf was a direct descendant of Eorl, but I assume he was a descendant of either king Frea or king Freawine, according to his name. Erkenbrand, on the other hand, was not a direct male descendant of Eorl and thus had no rights to the throne of Rohan - but he still was among the highest nobility, so probably a descendant of a daughter of one of the kings of Rohan.

[@Docre_T]

That artwork is gorgeous!!

[@annaroselarsen4218]

Yes I'm very excited to see how it is!

[@matthewaamot2961]

and Debbie..... DEBBIE!!! Our favorite!

[@th3phoenix]

Shows that there are upsides and downsides to committing hard to solving all problems by walking outside alone to beat your foes to death with your bare hands.

[@VogonPoet67]

The official trailer makes it look as if Peter Jackson has turned this into a story about the heroism of Helm Hammerhand's daughter. I get that there's not enough material in the written story for a full screenplay, so what will be interesting to see is whether all of the trailer material focusing on "Hera" is unnecessary padding added to the written story (like the "Tauriel" material in The Hobbit films) or whether the "Hera" story replaces the written story (just as Jackson had Arwen replace Glorfindel in the part of the Fellowship of the Ring film where Frodo is saved from the Ringwraiths).

[@Bayard1503]

So no worries... they're not really telling his story in the movie.

[@notarmchairhistorian7779]

Sigh. Yeah. Yet another one corrupted by "the message".

[@Bayard1503]

@@Retaurdé Don't parrot the Drinker, the message as you put it is perfectly fine in the setting of Rohan. They have shieldmaidens, the princess is the cause of the war her role should be expanded. But don't make it all about her if you call it the War.

[@starrynight6268]

I don't think that the story is going to center around the princess solely. Helm Hammerhand will play a role which is as important as Theoden too.

[@marquisdelafayette-xe1ht]

@@Bayard1503 “the message” is a higher priority for the studios than the plot. She was unnamed in the book, and this is what this is based off. This is unfaithful treatment of Tolkien, and he would have hated it. “The message” does not fit in here. It does not fit in here. Sure, her role can be expanded, but this is not expansion of the character it is a repeat of “the message”. We already saw this many times. Quoting the Drinker is perfectly fine in this setting. This is mulan in lotr

[@marquisdelafayette-xe1ht]

@@starrynight6268 unlikely

[@thegreatwanderer2023]

Great video as always! Can't wait to see them adapt those stories from TLotR Appendices. Btw, I'm also up to making my first video (also on the Rohirrim, specifically their later war with Saruman) and I was wondering if you or anyone else could tell me what program do you use for the circle-shaped images (or ar least suggest a similar app); so far I have the recording, the artwork (with the names/usernames of the artists) and the music so now I have to deal with the visuals. I'll be sure to refference this great video (I already have in the script & recording), I think it could tie in quite nicely to the subject of mine :) Keep up the good work!

[@meeskeessen4848]

Enjoying the vid as always notr! Could you do a vid on Húrin (and his son Turín) sometime? That would be very cool to see

[@NerdoftheRings]

Definitely! I've been holding off on Turin for a special occasion - perhaps my upcoming 100th video special!

[@meeskeessen4848]

@@NerdoftheRings hype

[@Enerdhil]

Read the book The Children of Hurin. I think it's the best of the three epic stories in the First Age, because Christopher gives us a single completed story instead of fragments from various versions, making us by ourselves have to sift through it and decide which version makes the most sense.

[@meeskeessen4848]

@@Enerdhil I kinda like it when a story is kind of vague and fragmented, it feels more realistic in my opininon, like with old tales and legends in our world. But I'll defenitely read the children of Hurín sometime, altough I already know the story.

[@TiagoRamosVideos]

Amazing 👏

[@TomWainwright1]

This was brilliant, thank you!