Why Your Vocals Sound Thin

[@HelpMeDevvon]

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[@maisonarmanimusic]

Does every frequency spectrum mid high low has to be same volume to have a fuller mix?

[@khayree]

I would like to thank you Devvon. Every single one of your videos is the formula. I have several questions I will ask a few. What interface do you use? What resolution are you recording at? . Other than the Neve what else do you use on your mix buss? I am currently using an Antelope orion synergy core and I am very dissatisfied with it. Primarily what I am missing with it is top in. I used to use ARME 800 and I loved it when I can pair mixes from the RME to the Antelope the Antelope sounds muffled same song same mix. Do you do consultations? Last question for now I am looking at the lynx Aurora.16 Ch AD/DA Or Apollo 16Ch hexa core. I use a 16 channel passive Summing mixer powered by Neve 1272 with an API 2500 hardware on the mix bus. The Antelope orion synergy core converters are not crisp it’s like 30% of the mix is covered with blankets. If you do consultations send me an email with a cell number I will gladly pay you for your time and knowledge. Again I greatly appreciate as an older producer you taking the art form to another. level great music and great engineering skills etc. Appreciate you Khayree [e-mail]

[@UziBlancoOfficial]

Which DAW do you use?

[@beatsbyisaiahangels818]

Please put out a course and Pro tools certification class and SELL IT! So I can help fund this channel

[@drowzee3333]

i’m 80% of my way through a bachelors degree in audio production and this man teaches me way more than anyone else

[@iamshoni]

I agree with all of this!

[@The_BurningMan]

i was interested into getting a degree too, is it worthy ?

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[@TheSecondC2]

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[@Jp-tl4gj]

@@TheSecondC2 you sleep

[@StrykerGamingOfficial]

It's crazy how you've taught me almost everything I know. I'll keep continue to grow and improve myself. I'm forever thankful to you bro

[@rblockmuzikgroup4012]

Real talk

[@coollgun5082]

Bro this guy is real I really like him

[@johnmiller3394]

Bruh, my stuff sounds 10 times better now with your tips than when I was recording before I heard of you!! I literally went and re-EQ'd and compressed some vocals on some old recordings I had did using tips I got from you and they just sound worlds better. thank you so much!!

[@hadbeats6798]

Help me Devvon is my favorite show on the internet. This man is a gift from god

[@yamwast]

When i started mixing i used to cut too heavily at the low end of the vocals - i've found a mixture of low-mids cutting & the "mud" region of 200-400hz to be a better solution. as well as some multiband compression, subtle stereo imaging and a touch of waves doubler all help give vocals that full sound. nice video!

[@portofly94]

I didn't even think I needed to watch this. Now I feel like I just had a revelation and I'm about to go re mix all my projects. Critical breakthrough every time. Thankful for you, bro.

[@RailorGamesYT]

Damnnn bro that analogy before the eq part about loudness and perception made my mind click!!🔥🔥🙏🏻

[@jasonchu4400]

i understand everything so precisely Devon this shit so under-rated, we need a mixer who does not just do other people's vocals, but YOUR OWN Vocals! we're not tryna make beats or produce, we tryna learn how to mix our own VOCALS!!!!! it's kinda rare for a engineer to teach you how to do vocal mixing....because they're all focused on making beats

[@EthanRadell]

you really gotta look at the eq and listen to yourself. Its the only way to get a custom mix thats perfect for you.

[@lilboat223]

bro what? do you know what an engineer is? their main purpose is to mix vocals. producers make beats

[@jasonchu4400]

no dooode there's different type of Engineers in Music Production itself....let alone REAL Mechanical, Software, Electrical Engineers in real life... the main purpose of an "Engineer" is to mix vocals....hella false my ninja does a master engineer or acoustic engineer "main purpose"...is to mix "VOCALS"???? no i dont think so! FIRST OF ALL YOU SHOULD BE THE FIRST ONE to know how and stylistically mix your own vocals... so you can at least have the English to talk to an engineer when you pay for their services you know what you want SECOND if you want to keep the style of the beat PURE then send stem vocals to the Producer that MADE THAT BEAT ITSELF! then let HIM Mix YOUR VOCALS....to HIS OWN STYLE OF his beat instead of a third-party unless you know them and did your homework and have a significant amount of experience using mixing services of all sorts including your own

[@lilboat223]

@@jasonchu4400 bro I had a stroke trying to read that

[@moleedaboi]

It's certainly not underrated

[@rtistofficial6070]

Litterally was ready to buy a new microphone unitlll I heard this, thanks man

[@bboymac84]

I need a “stay with me” T-shirt ASAP!!

[@emsanchez85]

Sir 🧐 wtf is a "T-shit"

[@terrymiller111]

He'll lead you to the promised land if you let him. #BlackAudioMoses

[@user-mz3ni8yu4v]

Every time he posts I’m always excited !

[@Lushcon]

Every single time!!!!

[@BallNeverStops7]

no kiz

[@HelpMeDevvon]

That means a lot!!

[@emsanchez85]

Pause lol but yeah, me too.. but pause 😂

[@Lushcon]

@@emsanchez85 not even pause worthy 🙈🤣

[@obeelaynemusiq]

this tip as just save my mix...it made my whole song come to life...thank you sooo much, continue posting a lot of these tips,.. u r amazing ❤‍🔥❤‍🔥❤‍🔥

[@Everrrrr]

I make metal but that original vocal take is great. Nice melodies and flow.

[@d3crypt3d]

that lighting is 🔥

[@lokiemane3586]

This man don’t miss. It’s like I’m actually in school. & he be giving us homework to do. Good teaching skills. I’m impressed.

[@tdrew474]

It’d be dope if you could do a tutorial video recording a full song start to finish using one of your templates. I’m pretty new to the whole recording thing but so far your videos have been helpful, purchased a couple templates of yours to help start my recordings. Keep up the good work tho bro, appreciate what you’re doing!

[@Georgiareneepittsmusic]

You are SO great at teaching. Thank you for answering so many Production questions. You make it so less overwhelming!

[@noshitjohnny]

you literally helped with the problem i been having for months thank you

[@dwaynejessome1728]

you've got a good way about you Devvon!

[@Moabel]

You are a great teacher bro ... this is definitely your calling

[@bboymac84]

It’s good to keep listening to the vocals in the mix too.

[@maavinomusiq]

Interesting how i see this now, i did that to a vocal today. Its a good trick for real✌🇯🇲

[@Hoodienestoo]

shout out to u for all this info fr

[@jaklair]

yoooo vroooo wanna collab HML

[@montgomeryhaines2087]

I like this technique. This causes those frequencies you like to stand in more.

[@felixdavidsson3555]

the absolute best tutorial ive seen on anything music related, thanks!

[@lefapharoe7018]

First To Comment Here, Keep Going Uncle Devvon, Mad Respect And Love From South Africa🇿🇦

[@z4ck842]

Also from SA

[@sisekeloshawn]

SZ😄

[@ksoulkeyz136]

Also from SA..

[@GG-dz1nf]

Fantastic, I can hear the difference even on my iPad speakers. Amazing tip!

[@matthewutley5370]

This is great. I have no damn idea why I never thought about this... My vocals sometimes have that thin / tinny sound, depending on the song. I'm certain this is the issue.

[@HelpMeDevvon]

Yes this will help a lot!!

[@KlavarRecordings]

I learned a new thing today that was brilliant, it thickened the vocal up at the click of 1 button. Pressing the phase invert on the EQ made the vocal thicker, only slightly but enough to notice the difference.

[@EddyBeats6]

This dude is a walking gem smh we need more yourtubers like him ‼️

[@crimewavbeats5532]

My rule of thumb is to keep it natural as possible, today's mixing styles sound more "thinny" due to the preferred brightness and modern microphones, once you start tweaking excessively and cutting or boosting too much you, kill dynamics and ultimately killing the integrity of the human voice , me personally I just rid of unnecessary sub lows and then tame the lows ,(usually with a eq cut at 3 or 500hz and multiband compression to control the low end ) boost at the top and then compress and automate ,the d-ess just a tad .that way the vocal is consistent and balanced across the board

[@HelpMeDevvon]

I like your approach!

[@crimewavbeats5532]

@@HelpMeDevvon aye man I learned a lot from you and Leslie Braithwaite lol

[@cusiworld458]

Honestly man , I’ve wasted hours watching other guys tutorials snd videos and I wish I found you a year ago , you have nothing but great tutorials and content !!!! Keep it up man thank you !!!!!!!

[@GrantFoxOfficial]

This is extremely helpful

[@Chebito710]

Bro you just helped me understand wtf wtf. Thank you. Btw nice beard on that face

[@Keepfaith101]

I needed this video! I been trying to figure this out for a minute. 🙏🏽 thanks

[@garrettscroggs]

Thanks for doing these. I can never learn enough!

[@clayblay]

Thank you. You made this concept easy to grasp. You' re engaging and that's the sign of a great teacher.

[@tferris8754]

Lord Have mercy HE IS SUCH A GREAT TEACHERRRR!! Thank you!!!!

[@Asholuck]

wow, the concept of about the ear attention toward loud frequency is cool

[@misteros4406]

You're a good teacher, since I star to watch your video I saw evolution on my mix

[@minisynthmaniac]

Just taking my first steps recording vocals and your advice is really valuable. Subscribed

[@deebornrich]

Man , you a blessing Fam, the actuality of you sharing the knowledge you learned yourself to us, is a blessing bro, I’ve learned so much from you over the past year, it’s crazyyy!!!💯🔥much love BroGod !!!

[@ISLANDVISUALS309]

Another banger 🐐🔥

[@Robscure_]

makes me wanna go back and remix a whole project now that i know what the problem with the vox was lol. thanks devvon, another gem for future reference

[@de-freitas-matt]

You sir saved my vocals here. Thank you!

[@kchathurangamusic]

this is longtime problem for me. today i will understood . thank you very much Devvon. Wish to success your all things

[@MostHigh27]

Love you Devvon!!!!! 💗💗💗 Thank you for this 🥰

[@selah_benjaminb7990]

Great tip! Recently just switched from reason 11 to studio one 5, the eq’s are much more accurate and with free game it makes even more sense!! Keep up the good work my brotha!!! ✊🏿✊🏿✊🏿

[@exhaust4246]

O ma God 🤯 I finally got it ... you literally fixed my problem Bro much love to you man ❤

[@StevedaveTodd]

You sir, are a gem to the recording industry. Thanks!!!!!!

[@iamkingjrose3112]

Most definitely a great way to break it down. Respect

[@jrdynamic07]

Devon actually helps !!! Thanks for the information and strategies

[@joeg2018]

I have always wanted to learn how to correctly create a wide vocal sound effect (haas effect) where I would duplicate a vocal track and pan one hard left and the other hard right.. That part is easy, but when I would play it back in mono I would always get some phase cancellation going on.. Have you made a video about this in the past? If so, where would I go to watch it..? If not, would you be able to make one? Thanks and I really appreciate what your doing here. Keep it up! :)

[@lilghob]

Record two independant takes instead .

[@Berserkern]

Love every vid! Learning so much! Saving up for the plug ins for your master rack🔥🔥

[@Pensacola2]

He got the passion and the gems seriously how does this channel not have like 3mil subs

[@crushtrend666]

Keep goin the good work bro, learn a lot with your contents 💯

[@GarrettJohnson80]

Thank you for your tips you are one of the realest person on KZbin

[@HabaeksMusic]

I've been waiting for these..damn thanks men📣

[@petussuss]

now we need a tutorial on your lighting its crazyyyy good

[@alirezamahjourian3839]

Hi devvon. I'm from iran and till now i learn alot of thing from you. You're my teacher bro. ❤❤

[@denezruss4409]

i've been wacthing your videos! thanks to you i start to really understand how to produce a music! thanks for everything

[@curtisfullard3792]

Absolutely love this video, step by step I could follow everything you explained. The best videos I've watched Thumbs up. P.S. and thank you for the knowledge.

[@Kawakajii]

youre an amazing teacher thank you so much and your music is always fire

[@ELMCinc]

Once again I appreciate you sharing your knowledge with us. 💪🏾

[@iamshoni]

This is an awesome tip! I can’t wait to try this on my vocals.

[@lostee2001]

Devvon....you helped me!! Thank you, so much for sharing!!

[@201jayy]

AMAZING VIDEO youjust fixed my #1 problem!!! thank you davon

[@sonnybrasco9735]

I like how you explained this bruh. Dope video

[@Brad2900]

Awesome mate, love it, cheers

[@KiaOrion]

Devv you be KILLIN THESE

really good tip! thank you Devvon

[@TieDiesel]

Mannnnn! You are alwayz on point bro! Great Stuff! Thx bro!!!

[@alphareaper8158]

In another word what frequency you decide to attenuate, boosts the other untouched frequencies, so you get a better equalization in frequencies, great vodeo

[@alphareaper8158]

*video

[@HelpMeDevvon]

U super get it!!

[@ramboee8211]

2:00 bruh had me locked in like a kid that was getting in trouble 💯‼️💯

[@edwinreyna2460]

My guy didn’t even flinch when he boosted that frequency. 8:29

[@pinkiethekid]

thanks bro fr been looking for this

[@Laurieryt]

You are an absolute LEGEND 💎

[@LupeNunezDotCom]

Thank you Devvon!

[@thomvsjs]

Man I appreciate your tutorials, big up

[@moutderire5658]

You are loved devvon 😂😍

[@JunyL]

gracias bro this it makes a big difference to my mixes

[@camillehylton8805]

You nailed it again bro !!!! 100%

[@applecrazy1]

You still think the Neumann TLM 103 is the best bang for your buck? You still use it? Is the shockmount worth paying 150 euro more?

[@ksmit]

Thank you Davon! You helped me.

[@fernan4x]

Dope vid Devvon!

[@NovaBro.]

You are a hero brother. Thank you for sharing this 😌

[@yrora678]

Devvon, would you record a video about Izotope Nectar 3 and how would you use it with other plugins? I would be so happy. :)

[@pickleman5041]

That headphone wire is f***ing wit my OCD. I want to reach inside my monitor, grad his headphones and turn them around. Great video.

[@djburningbudda2883]

Bruh you amazing. Just liked and subbed!

[@JokerMansBeats]

Randomly came across this vid. Good info here. Keep up the good work.

[@Andre7414]

Good stuff brother 💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾

[@matthewcoldheart4783]

You're real helpful brother! Cheers!

[@sheldonharbour3596]

Thank you so much for the great video! I love the concept of subtractive EQ!! I had a question though, I’m having trouble hearing/ feeling the difference when you would bypass, how can I train my ear to pick up on this? Or is it a hardware issue and I just need to upgrade?

[@user-tg2cw1un6i]

So many gems 💎

[@deebornrich]

Broooooo🔥🔥🔥da songggg tooo hardd,dat boi can singggg fooo lmaooo!!!🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@mr.dollar420]

Awesome Video - many thanks!

[@CPRJnuski]

between you and wavy wayne i learnt alot

[@Onpoint69608]

How to make vocals thinner?My vocals sound too thick.

[@emzypositive7353]

Proper eqing sire

[@Rooflessmula]

high pass on the lows or just lower the low end between 50-100hz hope this helps

[@SelfPoisonBand]

He didn't mention this, but every track has a differnet build up of lower frequencies when the mix is on. What i personally do is use a low shelf and place it maybe about 400hz and just pull it down 5 to 6 db. Your vocals will sound very sharp, yet sill have richness. This should be followed by compression.

[@_cjhere]

Watch the video in reverse 😶

[@Tishan01]

Reverse everything he do or turn down everything he do by 50%

[@ybdubblive]

Been a fan of you for years bro keep up. the great work