Get a louder master WITHOUT USING PLUGINS

[@DarrylBarnesDance]

Your singing and songwriting is underrated bro

[@jules7168]

+1000

[@Kkayy020]

I just heard him on the radio like yesterday I was like yo I know that voice😂,from Amsterdam tho shout out! Flex

[@Salt9696]

You have single-handedly changed my whole outlook on production.

[@BelieverStarcraft]

Man it’s crazy how much of a difference it makes it sounds so much warmer and less digital that’s cray!

[@maxreaper25]

Mike dean effect. This is how he got sicko mode so loud. Pushing the final master through analog gear a couple db hot( your audio interface) and printing through that to get your extra volume.

[@jaybeejosephayantade9698]

Been trying it on my Scarlett 18i20, I'm not getting any sound 😣

[@gozmail9325]

@@jaybeejosephayantade9698 Scalett isn't analog

[@urealiknow6060]

u can do this in your daw too, without any hardware even..

[@urealiknow6060]

I mean.. raising the volume on the channel where you are recording the print out like a vocal.. +2 db won't kill it don't it..still digital clipping.. is it a do or a no do..? hahahahahhaha

[@kingzluvinproduction]

I luv this. This technique opens the mix beautifully.Thank u devvon

[@graykeyzmusic]

Did this once by mistake. Thanks for showing the steps. Very dope! Now I know why it works. 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@th0setw0sp]

Devvon, thank you for reminding me about this trick. I wanted to do it on a bigger scale and better gear, but didn't realize I could do it regardless of interface and it would sound great either way. I would challenge you to do that same technique before mastering to see different results. I once saw the same technique but the guy took his fully mixed song and pumped it into API preamps, then back to his computer, then he mastered that new audio.

[@DarrylBarnesDance]

This is great for UAD hardware. You can use unison technology on the pre amps to emulate clipping a vintage pre amp/channel strip.

[@maxreaper25]

Amazing seeing all the sauce that’s out here applied. Great idea and I love how proactive you are about your mixing. Super intentional and great explanations. Your hand movements always pissed me off and your exaggerated expressions but I apologize. I have come around and I really appreciate you giving so much sauce out to the community because God knows people do not like sharing the sauce they’ve worked hard to acquire. I plan on doing the same as I continue learning. 🙏🏽thanks Devvon, the whole game thanks you

[@jaybeejosephayantade9698]

Please, Devon I'm unable to do this with my Focusrite 18i20. Is it possible that the trick be written down step by step please?

[@seansummr]

I appreciate how you explain everything, I'm using Fruity Loops but I always can implement the tips/tricks you share. Keep it up mane

[@losallets]

hovv did u implement dis one

[@mrmorpheus9707]

Awesome... I route out my apollo into my dangerous d box then to my pultec style eqs to ssl bus compressor then BURL B2 BOMBER back into Apollo.. For this, YOU DO GREAT TUTORIALS BRO

[@rikirex2162]

I will run the signals in a tube Headphones preamp and add them beside the original tracks and find the sweet spot between the 2 versions.I was wondering how to experiment with those little amps and you gave me the idea...cheers man. great song writing and all by the way.

[@blankcheckguy69]

Good idea! I have an Apogee Element, Great A/D converters in this box.

[@zushambano]

That's ingenious. Brilliant idea! Nice video, man!

[@tommiephoenix]

This video just saved my master :,) THANK YOU so much for putting this hack out there.

[@DravynJones]

Hey Devvon great tutorial! I don’t mean to be repetitive or rush you or anything I was just wondering if you would make a video on how to market yourself as a small artist‼️

[@BelieverStarcraft]

Would there be a way to do this with an Apollo? Would that have an analog signal. Sorry for my noob question

[@findlaywalker3296]

N Solano i need answers! u got the apollo twin mk2?

[@LukeReelfs]

N Solano yo, wondering the exact same thing haha.

[@GarfRichards]

You’re still in the digital realm so, no. What is being demonstrated here, is going out the digital environment (your DAW) through analogue gear, such as a mixer or summing box, back into your DAW. But, I have an Apollo Twin also, so I’m going to see if it can be done tracking out the DAW, then through Console app using unison technology. (Kinda not the same displayed here, as still all digital, I shall see...)

[@LukeReelfs]

@@GarfRichards Figured it might not work like that with the apollo unfortunately. Let us know how it goes if you could. Thanks for the info!

[@blankcheckguy69]

why wouldn’t it work? UAD interfaces have high quality AD/DA converters! Just re-route the output XLR/quarter-inch back into the analog mic/instrument inputs.

[@jmoemorris4133]

Gonna try this on my Firestudio interfaces, I can hear the difference, I also have a mixing desk with full features can I achieve the same results using it as the analog route and back into the interface?

[@Iamdanybazz]

Can you make a tutorial where you create space around a vocal using like a H Delay or any delay plugin instead of Reverb?!

[@conflictortiz8906]

I use the classic reverb from digital slate that has settings that you can tweek to get that space you need get that plugin you wont regret it

[@lameckmwanza7307]

@@conflictortiz8906 is it the verbsuite classics?

[@khOii]

Look up slap back delay tutorials. Hardest thing is to find out what these things are called lol

[@conflictortiz8906]

@@lameckmwanza7307 yeah thats it its the only reverb they have

[@pristineproductions]

link me bro i go the beyonce trick for you

[@MIKEDIAMONDZ]

You sing nice and modern

[@jawaynedixon3607]

nice song.. obsolutely love your mastering and mix bro ..

[@Cbabalo_Kold]

Devon thank you bro! You know what you doing and it has helped me know what im doing. Thank you

[@steviewitdafiji]

This is smart af ! Goodlooks on the tip bro subscribed 💯

[@prodbydeclipse1403]

A very clever technique.

[@tresspassah]

Bro. Could u drop more detail on the routing of the virtual channels and inputs, im havin trouble with my apollo x16.

[@witnessthelightmusic]

Yo! Thanks for sharing this technique. Quick question tho. At what peak dB are sending your mastered track out to your interface -and when you’re routing it back in with that additional 2 dB of gain from your interface, how are you ensuring you’re not recording a clipped inputted signal? Hope to hear back! Thanks!!

[@TomFarrell63]

I have a Focusrite Scarlet Interface. It has 2 outputs in the back for external speakers, that I have never needed. Will it work with Focusrite?

[@familytyzemusic1022]

MY only OUTPUTS are 1-2 stereo, and one left, one right mono. why do you have so many outputs, and I don't?

[@notzacmenton]

I don't get it. I have a Focusrite Scarlett 2i2 and I don't know if I am able to do this...I can never choose any other input other than the mic input (1-2) and only have one cable. The only way to do what he is describing is by using busses in PT, but does that mean it is not analog?

[@andrezz6632]

When i can buy the AUTOTUNE EFX 3? Because i only find the AUTOTUNE EFX + ...

[@LilRobForever]

drezz Facts. I need a link too (only reason I’m commentin’, just incase LOLOL).

[@blankcheckguy69]

what features do yall need in EFX3 that arent in EFX+

[@BALTAOFC]

Don’t sell no more !

[@chris.theplug9592]

If you couldnt do it this way which is thru actual hardware, could you achieve this same sound with the j37 or a similar analog saturation plugin???

[@kiddphantomm]

appreciate that! it helped out alot!

[@daddydiesel7910]

how do i get backround noise off from the aux tracks?

[@AccssryMusic]

Beautiful

[@AccssryMusic]

I am using RME fire face 800 also with a dangerous D box summing mixer. Any routing tips for this setup?

[@joost3783]

Yo Devvon - bro what's your opinion on clipping ITB - like - have you tried the SIR audio tools STANDARD CLIP? (pretty cheap actually for a plugin with that quality) and it would be possible with the plugin to create the same amount of clipping because you can control the clipping point + the gain before and after that point + the softness of the clipping etc. Maybe u wanna do a comparison if it actually sounds worse oversampled than the interface clipping. Your opinion would be nice to hear on this.

[@alilceestyle5237]

Can you do this trick on a 2 input and 2 main output interface as I’m using the Element 24?

[@blankcheckguy69]

A LiL Cee Style I have an Element 24 too and Yes, you can. Just route the XLR connection from your speakers to your Analog 1&2 inputs and then select input 1-2 as a stereo input in your DAW. Set your input gain accordingly (I found 32-38 to be a decent range for the mix I was working with). Lastly, boost the input channel volume slightly in your DAW’s mixer (1.5-2.5db) and you should be good. Make sure your output gain is also set at a reasonable volume so you arent over-clipping.

[@jonforeman4534]

The song a banger

[@RawUncutTalent]

how do u do this on logic pro x? plz help me devvon!!

[@MrSilver8790]

word you cant change the inputs and outputs on the master track in logic :/

[@stockmanager]

but what do u set the gains at on the analouge inputs? like just till u get bout 2db hotter than the signal ur sending ?

[@WhiteheadOfficial]

is there a way you or someone in the comments can explain how to pull this technique off in FL Studio step by step ?

[@phillipypakasonofthelight3757]

You think it may work with a focusrite Interface??

[@openaudio4432]

i love your videos! help me devvon! haha i love that lol

[@jessoyuno2572]

Is it possible to do this with analog model buss like I.e route my master to a aux with a WAVES NLS CHANNEL OR BUSS and clip that 2db and level that into my master as if it were parallel compression .... or would I add the NLS BUSS/channel after my master limiter and clip it there or could I use a plugin like StandardClip after my master limiter and achieve same results?? For the people that don’t actually have interface with converters capable of clipping cleanly like yours

[@omari53]

What preamp and mic do you use to record your vocals?

[@alvon4055]

Can you make a tutorial on mixing background/layer vocals.

[@Iamdanybazz]

How about a Video on Mixing a vocal recorded with a cheap microphone... like a C1 or Bm800

[@Ozfish75]

Sounds good 👌

[@jermainstarks7061]

Love it I have done

[@DanielofSparta]

What gear do you need to do this??

[@sneider1924]

As I can do in my apogee duet, which gain should give to the exits and the innings I'm not clear about that

[@BelieverStarcraft]

Great song writing bro

[@dantepl1237]

Would you be able to do this with something like a 2i2?

[@RealDrewKeys]

I want to know that as well

[@christophermoncure5050]

@@RealDrewKeys same!

[@blankcheckguy69]

yes because it has 2 inputs, 2 outputs

[@RealDrewKeys]

J moneysign word??? Now I just have to figure out how I can do this on logic lol

[@blankcheckguy69]

Drew Keys all you have to do is set your interface as both input and output. have your mix on one track and create two new audio tracks. then set the input of both of those tracks to the track with your mix. arm them both to record and ur good to go. btw in case ur confused.. just as he states in the video, u will have to pull the xlr or quarterinch cable out of ur monitors and route them to the analog/mic inputs on ur interface. lmk if ur able to get it working

[@mjcoolayo]

How do I apply this in logic Pro X

[@ronaldsims9905]

Pretty good!

[@poseidonsoundz]

So essentially you're using the pre amp circuitry inside your your interface to give you the analog saturation, I get that. This doesn't apply to me because I'm actually bypassing the pre amp in my Duet interface and using my great river pre amp, but what about for beginners using something like a focusrite 2i2 that's both a converter and pre amp, will they still see any type saturation gain from their interfaces? If I'm thinking correctly you need an interface/pre amp with multiple inputs & outputs to be able to do this type of routing. Love your videos man, I've even implemented some of your techniques in my own mixing chain. I also do mixing tutorials on my KZbin channel check it out, and keep up the dope work👌🏾

[@evighvitveis]

He's actually using the converter as a softclipper, so it's not the preamps doing the work. A problem that can occur with the cheaper interfaces are unpleasant distortion due to the quality of components.

[@imjerz3852]

bro i have an maudio mtrack 2x2 i dont how to do this trick, because i dont have a digital mixer there is another way?

[@the_electronicTech]

without plugins? alright lets (fetches popcorn)

[@originaloreo98]

I use Logic Pro x and an apollo twin mkII quad interface and I don’t really know how to match this video to what I have, to do what you did. Please help! On the back I have a mic line available and two line outs that aren’t used either (3&4). It’s powered by thunderbolt if that matters

[@originaloreo98]

I have a 3&4 available on my interface. How do I plug my cables into 3&4 when they’re already used now?

[@JeeBreaLMusic]

Dear , what is your analog gear that you use ?

[@BigDrewminatiLL7X]

I’m confused should I take the cable from the speaker and plug it in one of the outs instead of “In”

[@dshonearly8500]

I’m confused as well

[@RealDrewKeys]

Can you do this on Logic? If so how do you do it?

[@jpeezystudios]

Watching...

[@I_Am_Griff]

Bruh, you needa jus go be a straight up artist. trey songz, weeknd type sound...you got such a great voice man, and im so grateful for all your educational videos on engineering but bro, i just feel like youre supposed to only be an artist at this point...drop some fire tracks bro! (not that you dont already release music, but i just feel huge potential for you as strictly being a performing artist/vocalist/singer. i mean all of that as a compliment bro bro....you a solid engineer fasho fasho! also bro, all that matters is that youre happy and im sure you are. im JUST SAYIN.....you could be a huge artist wit all this experience..

[@Toolazytothink00]

legend

[@twelvesound380]

deffo needed

[@streetlogic]

I have a question. Most of my mixes get distorted at loud volume in the car but I always stay below 0db any suggestion

[@chachi076]

Street Logic proper gain staging in mix, and use izotope tonal balance to help prevent that.

[@streetlogic]

Yeah was thinking its gain staging is my issue glad to hear confirmation I appreciate that 100

[@chachi076]

Street Logic you on the right track brotha. 🤙🏾

[@streetlogic]

@@chachi076 would you think also maybe I'm adding to much compression on vocals cuz normaly the beat I make is fine even at loud volumes but its sounds like my vocals distort at loud volumes. Or mainly do better gain staging? Probably a combination of both lol. But definitely gain staging. I have a control surface so my natural reaction is to use the fader so gonna start using gain staging thanks again.

[@chachi076]

Street Logic honestly think that compression is your best friend that would turn his back on you if you abuse them. A little goes a long way. Also a transient shaper would tame the sporadic jumps in velocity. Experiment with those things and we all know that these plugins are to be used on a bus NOT the track that holds the actual wave files... good luck my guy!

[@dulla8469]

anyone know why Clipping on FL Studio doesnt sound as horrible as logic or PT, when im making beats its always clipping before i start mixing and i almost never notice that its clipping

[@ripdocholiday9650]

What microphones do u use bro

[@austincaruso7596]

So I don't need plug-ins I just need analog gear! Thanks 😅

[@yoboi2.044]

This one's a bit tricky to implement in FL ..

[@GARA808]

u know how this works?

[@KingOfTings1]

i have access to a SSL board i gotta try this

[@dulla8469]

when u explained that shit it was confusing as shit so u send the mastered track to your audio interface just like how people send a track to a mix board and then when it was out u raised it 2 db so it started clipping and then u sent it back to the DAW..???? right

[@Letsgetbread8500]

Nice tip bro

[@dulla8469]

my interface has 2 outputs and 2 inputs and one of the inputs is a line level input

[@streetlogic]

Tried this method cant seem to get It to work with my scarlett 18i20 3rd gen lol

[@Rico_Roberts]

This guy's tutorials are so awesome even a deaf person can follow along with all that hand signs he's throwing up. For me it's distracting tho. I can't stop watching his hands.

[@borealstudios]

Guys help me here. I know that is a stupid question, but just to be clear, after the master is recorded the process is done or I still have to blend with the digital master?

[@Chiefmonks]

Just dont do it at all, its utter bullshit. He does not know what he is talking about.

[@Itsboyprince]

Is it necessary to record cant we just send it to other track increase volume and then send to master

[@nicodvorak9926]

PrincEmpire bruh you can’t, as he said it’s about analog clipping, what you want to do is using digital clipping

[@bloood9]

But a loud master is obsolete for streaming now days because of loudness normalization

[@whyaskmenoely25]

People don't follow it. Also, sometimes loudness IS the sound. All that compressing and limiting might just be the glue that a track needs.

[@RenoG4]

how the hell do you do this on logic and a UAD box???? anyone

[@evighvitveis]

Utility - I/O - Stereo

[@disruptINC]

I have a UAD Apollo twin in confused on how to do this

[@th0setw0sp]

Just route the desired track from you DAW to Line Outputs 3-4 (stereo track). Then from the back of the interface, take two TRS cables and plug them into Line 1-2 and I guess you increase the faders on Console to 2 dB. I just got one and as soon as I get a couple of cables to try it out then I'll do it too. Bonus on the sound quality if you use the Unison Technology and print it for a unique sound.

[@witnessthelightmusic]

PGE II Music did you try this out with your Apollo? Did it work the way you thought it would? And my thoughts exactly when it comes to the unison plugins. I’m gonna try it with the API and increase the gain on the API not the fader.

[@th0setw0sp]

@@witnessthelightmusic Yes. It came out a little weird though. Make sure you don't have a multiple monitor setup (I do and I have to try and re figure that out). Just be very careful and just try and get creative with it.

[@OwenModamwen]

You should write for Usher

[@palmtreesproductions6002]

Good trick

[@needknotrecords]

Can l use the other side of my art mpa gold pre.

[@krkr5625]

The only difference is anolog vs digital is aliasing issue

[@yxungrev]

can you show how to mix vocals like ufo361 please

[@Itsboyprince]

Man i always struggle with loud master how can i do this technique on fl studio?

[@jermainstarks7061]

I have fruit loops n cubase nuendo n pro tools n all of them are lower than fruit loops it already has more of and better master output

[@BALTAOFC]

Routing in the mixer it’s not that hard!

[@2daypresents]

@@BALTAOFC You know how to do this in FL Studio?

[@BALTAOFC]

2Day sure bro

[@2daypresents]

@@BALTAOFC You a real one! I tried it but I'm not sure if it was right

[@the_electronicTech]

sommer pass me the link of your album that you been been punting

[@tracylane7270]

Yo can i do this with a dual mic pre

[@blankcheckguy69]

Tracy Lane yeah if ur talkin about a mic pre/ analog input in a audio interface (u need 2 inputs for stereo signal).

[@EricsonPresents]

Yeah this sounds tricky. I’m going to try it on my twin

[@floydjames8563]

Ericson Presents... any luck I can’t figure it out

[@EricsonPresents]

Floyd James I actually haven’t even tried yet. Tomorrow I will. I talked to my mix partner about it and he told me the routing. So I’ll try it tomorrow. If I get it to work. I’ll do a video showing what I did. Stay tuned... lol.

[@floydjames8563]

What is this technique actually called ?

[@GarfRichards]

Floyd James The process is called “summing”. But this here, is a hybrid approach. Before the digital age , summing was done inside of a console, after which the signal was sent to a tape machine for that warmth/saturation etc.

[@blankcheckguy69]

clipping the converter

[@conflictortiz8906]

So what if my apollo 8p and dangerous dbox i master my song then i just crank up my volume on my dangerous dbox could that work almost the same cause my dbox is analog

[@evighvitveis]

Yes, and if you're using the dbox as a summing box you can crank the sum output going back into your 8p! 😇

[@spydercrypto8068]

Fueho🔥⚡

[@ripdocholiday9650]

Hey Devon can I do a song with u

[@Kickdrum00]

Can this be done with the apogee duet 2?

[@evighvitveis]

Apogee says so, they suggest turning on the soft limiting function to prevent digital clipping, and don't overdo it! :)

[@LyrixmusiQ]

Can u record quality vocals without an interface?

[@alihajali9218]

nah

[@LyrixmusiQ]

@@alihajali9218 word gotta get one

[@gusdee4844]

I used to record decent on a USB mixer. Said I would never switch because every interface was so damn low and weak, couldn't blast the volume (focusrite 2i2) til I got an Audient id14.. its amazing

[@LyrixmusiQ]

@@gusdee4844 thanks..... ima look up in it

[@evighvitveis]

The Audient iD4 is a steal, smaller than the iD14 and only 1 mic input, so have that in mind. Their preamps are great though! 👍

[@KennyLauderdale]

What's fee to just send you my stems and YOU mix my stuff?

[@squaddownproductions6264]

Go to his website.link in the description.

[@pristineproductions]

nice bro one of the best ways it using harmonic plugins on instruments using parallel compression and mixing with gain staging rather than purposely clipping to get loud on the master chain compression and tape machines can easily give you great volume so the best practice is gain staging rather than focusing on loud distorted mix than won't sound professional

[@blankcheckguy69]

pristine productions nah man, analog clipping as he suggests sounds professional, i promise. gain staging is highly important during mixing, but he talkin bout pushing a final master even further

[@pristineproductions]

@@blankcheckguy69 yes if its just loud master then it will take more tham just clipping stuff like tune and tape will be needed in order to get the big master sound like the pros els you might just get a loud thin master if is just volume your after amd not a proper dynamic mix thats why gainstage is highly important the loundness cimes form the mix not jus master chain