HERALDS OF THE FOUR - Chaos Champions | Warhammer 40k Lore

[@legiontepes3474]

Two things all four have in common is that they are not primarchs and they all came to despise their gene sire that as astartes they venerated.

[@brya9681]

Lucius doesn't hate Fulgrim, he hardly even thinks about him.

[@MightyInHiding]

@@legiontepes3474 I would argue Typhus stopped respecting Mortarion much sooner as well

[@Fuerto203]

Lucius is known as "Fulgrim's champion" and seems to at the very least still respect him as his genefather and sire. Ahriman is often at odds with Magnus, but made peace with him before the burning of Fenris. Kharn still honors Angron as his primarch and leader, following Angron during the Arks of Omen campaign. The only champion that truly despises his genefather and looks down on him is Typhus

[@ThenDarknessFalls]

They all seem to get buried by Garviel as well. Lol.

[@Iworkatthekinkos]

@@ThenDarknessFalls typical Loken W

[@captainteutonica5474]

Lucius the pitiful, eternally cursed to never truly rise above those who can best him. Kahrne the kinslayer, truest son of the Red Angel. Typhus the betrayer, who sacrificed his entire Legion. Ahriman the Chosen, chosen indeed by Tzeentsch and chosen to fail.

[@f4u5tus]

@@captainteutonica5474 ok Sigismund

[@captainteutonica5474]

@@f4u5tus by the Emperor, I accept your compliment.

[@synergy8879]

lucius the bitchmade

[@andarchy1386]

She who thrusts is definitely the scariest

[@meep9454]

@@andarchy1386 Not sure if that pun is intentionally or not...

[@inquisitorgarza312]

The Heralds of Four Chaos Gods may be the favorite champions of their own patron gods, but make no mistake that they are little more than a source of food and entertainment for them, and once they prove to be useless or no longer worthy of them they will be replaced by others that catch their eyes.

[@shadowgod1797]

that's why out of all of them Ahriman hates tzeentch openly and constantly defy him and trys to free both himself and his legion from tzeentch grasp

[@cthulawha]

@@shadowgod1797 tzeetch values traitors to him above all others though

[@synergy8879]

which would be pretty damn hard

[@djwillza3295]

​@@shadowgod1797 witch is exactly why tzeentch loves him

[@Konterfeit]

@@djwillza3295 Would you say then that Ahriman tries to... change... his ways?

[@clemo85]

The Heralds of the Four: Why do I hear boss music?

[@VinnyPTAstartes]

What would the Emperor be God of? Justice? Lol

[@michaellee1244]

​@@VinnyPTAstartes Order... The God of Order. Opposite of Chaos.

[@Moldereyes1999]

You know, Typhus is technically closer to Daemonhood than most of the other Heralds. Besides Lucius, but still. Typhus is beyond mortality, ascended to a being befitting Nurgle. Indeed, while Slaanesh might eventually let Lucius die for good… Typhus’ condition shall ever prevent his own end.

[@AGuyWithTheFace]

The Emperor's Sword has entered the chat

[@chelly5911]

What abt ahriman usnt his face like a screaming endless void now

[@ahel4523]

The oddest part of all legions is everything just got worse for them after Horus' rebelion.

[@Blitz0555]

@@ahel4523 Yeah I wonder why that is

[@TheSickjits]

@@ahel4523 you mean selling your soul to hell isn’t a good idea? Shit

[@somanymodsithurts8637]

@@TheSickjitsthere goes my plans for Saturday

[@Will_Plotegher]

Which "all" do you mean? Because if you mean all the nine that fell, then yeah, things will get worse when you side with pure evil.

[@chloe59k]

Makes my day everytime I see a new lengthy video by Remembrancer, sandman of Terra, jankovich, amber King, void in the vox, dovo and the list goes on. You guys should hook up with an animation youtuber.

[@biggumstevens1784]

The story of the thousand sons is kinda sad, they were trying to warn the emperor, and didn't know shit about his experiment going on...and they were punished for trying to warn him...

[@ColonelFrontline1152]

*T H E F O U R H O R S E M E N* *O F C H A O S* Lucius The Eternal: Death Kharn The Betrayer: War Typhus the Traveller: Pestilence Ahriman The Exile: Conquest

[@thehonestcompany867]

Oh shit, I think you're onto something. That works way too well

[@hunterrogers4116]

I agree with all except arhiman but that's as close as it gets but good job either way

[@ColonelFrontline1152]

@@hunterrogers4116 Yeah it was a bit difficult for Ahriman, Lucius, Kharn and Typhus on the other hand were the easiest ones.

[@hunterrogers4116]

@@ColonelFrontline1152 I think lucius fits for death seeing that he can't stay dead but yeah arhiman is a pain in the ass

[@GravSh4rk]

Conquest* pestilence is not an OG horseman

[@shadowgod1797]

if there is any hope left in chaos we might as well look at how Ahriman's plans would end up in the future.

[@Ado_enthusiast1999]

Yes! I've been waiting for this! This truly a blessing from the Emperor! Or in this case, The chaos go- *(gets shot)*

[@Sgtgump9873]

(Reloads bolt pistol) heresy has no place within the halls of the remembrancers

[@CMp-bq1bj]

this is criminal this channel has so little views

[@warwolf88]

preaching to the choir man I couldn't agree more😊

[@bolothegiantfriendlypillbu4075]

I can't stop seeing Lucius as Gaston from Beauty & the Beast.

[@nomcarver4436]

Is that dark tide lobby music I hear? 1:19:34

[@twistedgrin3510]

Any of Deez Gitz know where da Angron is? Gaz Wants a word

[@somanymodsithurts8637]

Kharn probably does

[@KenwoodG]

“Im not as damaged as you”- Kharn

[@oldashfifa]

Damn I just had the urge to learn more on this topic and whadayaknow “uploaded 8 minutes ago” 👍

[@Brotherofthe4thCompany]

I’m watching this because Games Workshop just unveiled their Fulgrim model for 40K. And with the Emperor’s Children on the horizon, I’m thinking maybe they can also release a model for Lucius the Eternal.

[@Ralphopotamus]

Kharn is easily my favorite. An unstoppable warrior that was SO CLOSE to killing Erebus. It would be interesting to see Lucius and Kharn get into a fight and see who wins.

[@RevolverRho]

Kharn, and he would feel nothing killing Lucius since he’s so boring and pathetic

[@DarthBombSchell]

@@RevolverRho He literally feels joy/relief in killing in general. Lucius no doubt would be a good fight, giving him a good feeling and thus finding himself on the receiving end of the curse of the eternal.

[@4starseniormasterspecialist]

Awesome!!!

[@MRptwrench]

Leave it to The Remembrancer to awaken some shred of empathy for these 4. And to fix my brain after the flood of AI crap from that false prophet Imp It. (I dare not speak the name of that evil.)

[@gerald216]

Do they just use ai for the text to speech or for the script?

[@bobbobertbobberton1073]

The CSM champions are all so much cooler than their Primarchs.

[@brunopelletier5701]

Lorewise yes but lookwise im sry but the Deamon primarchs are unmatched

[@bobbobertbobberton1073]

@@brunopelletier5701 I'm talking about likeability.

[@dustinatkinson5744]

39:48 from the novel Warhawk

[@Lomhow]

I can only imagine how long this took to make 🙏

[@GhostShipBaychimo]

Ahriman my beloved

[@theawkwordcomicthereviewer4684]

Ik, ahriman, typus, kharn, and lucius are the hearlds of the each of the chaos gods but there is in my opinion a 5th Herald......Abaddon the Despoiler hearold of all 4 chaos gods and of the soon to be 5th chaos god Vashtorr the Arkifane!

[@adamedmister8828]

There is already a 5th Chaos God.. Malice.

[@shoulderpyro]

So what if a Necron Deathmark shoots Lucius? Deathmarks can't feel anything, and they're definitely capable of killing Astartes. Even if the soulless assassin felt something, can Lucius even regrow from a necrodermis body?

[@floki8382]

It's a possibility that they could still end up becoming Lucius, but even if they don't, there's other shenanigans at play because Slaanesh likes their playthings. So long as they haven't gotten bored of him, he'll come back. Might go up a level to whatever created the deathmark, or whoever placed the hunter's mark on Lucius. Even if they don't feel pride, any minute sense of satisfaction could potentially work. The only real limit is just whoever is writing the scene. A potential scenario could be something like having loyalist, chaos, and Necron forces all on the same world, with Lucius fighting alongside chaos marines. Loyalist astartes needs a way to kill Lucius, comes up with the idea of luring him into the sights of a group of Deathmarks who for some reason have been dispatched by their Nemesor to clean up any groups of astartes that get separated. One lands a killing shot on Lucius. The marine that came up with the plan feels a small amount of relief that the plan worked, evening the odds a bit, only to be the seed that Lucius then comes back from. Or the Nemesor that ordered the Deathmarks out is watching the ongoing fights and, having viewed the marine forces as honorable in some way, feels pride not necessarily in the Deathmarks themselves but rather in the superiority of Necrons over their adversaries. That could possibly be enough for Lucius to come back from. And, even if all that doesn't work, all it takes is Slaanesh deciding to just bring him back anyway in some other manner. Could say that he stays dead for a few centuries until another cocky swordslinger comes along and performs a feat that would be worthy of Slaanesh's attention. They're given the Laer Blade which sends them down a path of fast corruption and Lucius is reborn once again like the undying cockroach that he is.

[@shoulderpyro]

@@floki8382 that. Is equally interesting as it is horrifying. Personally I just hope Lucius gets his ass kicked into the void, preferably by Angron, and never returns. The reason for it having to be Angron is simply me assuming Khorne won't let his second favourite toy turn into a slaaneshi degenerate.

[@locksmith898]

According to some sources, Lucius has come back from a necron due to the "cold satisfaction" it felt from the victory. He's taken over a factory worker who made a mine because the worker felt pride in his job, and because he built a mine that killed Lucius, he got trapped in the armor. Lucius is my least favorite character in 40K for this reason.

[@shoulderpyro]

@@locksmith898 Okay hypothetical #2: What if he ends up getting got by another Daemon, preferably a Nurgle one seeing as Grandfather has a habit of getting in Slaani's way. Can a Daemon regrow from another Daemon? Or would Nurgle's influence over his kin keep the influence of other gods at bay?

[@locksmith898]

@@shoulderpyro Does said daemon feel any...ANY sense of pride or satisfaction or good feeling towards killing Lucius? If they do, they are gonna get absorbed into the armor

[@shimazutakuma1031]

Oh, i am late to notice this one, thanks Rem. The Emperor's Children died with Istvaan III tho tbh, these chaos marines are just Fulgrim's Failures at this point (they seem to be content in the warp tho, where are they in the current setting?)

[@CoperliteConsumer]

Do you think slaneshi chaos armor has a hightech auto fleshlight built into codpiece ?

[@TheHound402]

Three of the four Champions were Terran-born.

[@sargeherren]

Only 2. Khârn and Ahriman were born on Terra. Both Lucius and Typhus were born on the homeworlds of their respective primarchs.

[@djwillza3295]

​@@sargeherrenindeed it was fabius bile who was terra born

[@KomboAndy]

They should form a boyband. Möteal Crüe or some shit.

[@brya9681]

Lucius up, everyone else down. Lets go my arrogant king.

[@AltoStratusX1]

I think my favorite line in any Black Library book is "as they fell to the floor [Tarvitz] pistoned his fist into his former comrades face." Seriously Lucius is so overrated. Like he gets his ass kicked so much his signature ability (or rather his patrons signature ability since it has nothing to do with any sort of skill on Lucius part) revolves around his LOSING. Dudes inability to learn from his mistakes and put his hubris aside is exactly why he's NEVER gonna be the greatest duelist in the setting lol.

[@andyroobrick-a-brack9355]

​@@AltoStratusX1I find that compelling from a characterization standpoint, though. The Emperor's Children are all a bunch of idiotic, drug addled, high and mighty ravagers, they're too entrenched in the present moment to care about improving. That may not make for an incredibly intimidating villain, but it makes for a really interesting character with a lot of potential.

[@matt_9112]

​@@andyroobrick-a-brack9355sometimes the most hated characters are rhe best written, because they were intended to spark hate and succeed tremendously. Erebus and Lucius are prime examples. Only annoying thing with Lucius is sometimes another good character will stand before him, so it really is a loose in terms of who to root for as audience.

[@wreid4995]

While the concept of Kharn is interesting, if he is good why has he not ascended to deamonhood? Also Lucious was finally killed my Eisenhorn via a vindicare assassin who Eisinhorn then slew to ensure he could not return.

[@ThePandaOfYourMind]

@@wreid4995 Honestly, I feel like Kharn might reject demonhood.

[@kayvaanmcsharrowkyn6901]

AS USUAL..... "FUCK EREBUS"

[@mikeylejan8849]

Worshipping Chaos would only lead you to ruination and vice!

[@etinarcadiaego7424]

You know, as a real life devotee of everything Slaanesh represents, I'm sad that the Herald of Slaanesh is that piece of shit Lucius. He's one of my least favorite 40K characters.

[@kai_plays_khomus]

_Everything?!_ I'm certainly not a choire boy either - but _'everything'_ is quite a statement.. 😅

[@TheCorrodedMan]

“FETCH THE FLAYED BABY HEADS!”

[@dclangst]

I was thinking Slaanesh sucked up the worst of the 4.

[@jtmartin1170]

Please go to church

[@kai_plays_khomus]

@@jtmartin1170 Yep, a real and legitimate cult sounds like a great remedy against fictitious cults in equally fictitious universes - which at bottom line are a deliberate parody of people like you and the associated mindset driving them in the first place. Ironically the cosmology of 40K cooked up by a collective of writers over roughly 30 years in fact turns out to be more coherent and consistent than christianity, at least to anyone who actually read the bible and tried to understand what exactly they are reading there.

[@austinholst7683]

Letsss gooooo #bloodforbloodgod

[@Turnil321]

But they are all weak when you look at tge might of the hand of fate. The true herald of chaos

[@ngandwemusonda7769]

A question. The heralds aren’t as strong as their primarchs but why are they favoured by the Chaos gods?

[@louiesatterwhite3885]

Mortal servants of the chaos gods overall have much more influence on the mortal realm than demon princes. Demon princes require huge amounts of warp energy and complicated rituals to be brought into the material realm, while mortal servants can come and go from the warp as they please

[@huntermad5668]

Motarion hates Nurge and wanted nothing more than being free from him. Angron is a useful battering ram. That is about it. Not sure he has anything else in there other than rage and desire to kill. Hell, even Kabanda may have clearer mind than him most of the time. Fulrim...😂 What is he doing now? Magnus... He is just another pawn on the Table. Bigger than most but still a pawn.

[@irondiver2034]

Nykona! Nykona!! Nykona!!!

[@theezekarion164]

Why have none of the 4 become a Daemon prince Yet?

[@TheCorrodedMan]

That would detract from the amusement the Gods get from them. As mortals, they constantly generate entertainment and chaotic energy that they can use to empower themselves. Make them into Daemon Princes and not only does that diminish their capacity for creative thinking and, therefore, showmanship, but it also massively depletes the god they’re being blessed by, taking _away_ power instead of _getting_ it, which none of the Gods wants, since it would put them all at a disadvantage in the Great Game.

[@bobdrooples]

Never promote useful grunts. You have to find two for each one you promote.

[@plezo69]

Didn't kharne get killed by a guardsman that donned his armor?

[@o.w.n.1327]

That's Kroeger.

[@The_Drippin_Don]

12:06 *A M O G U S*

[@kurtru5selcrowe607]

Did I see a Gwent card lmao

[@AgeofGuns]

Will you ever do Warhammer Fantasy content? I’d love to see it!

[@X7_MERC_MAN_17]

Somebody got to be weak I guess

[@X7_MERC_MAN_17]

I love that I can be truly disappointed by a fictional story. The Horus Heresy got me pissed off at every turn!; I mean this in a entertainment way. Gripping tales of triumph and betrayal that make me feel as if I was there myself. Glad I'm not though!! Nope!!

[@nachtmacher6237]

😊

[@RevolverRho]

Lucius is by far one of the most boring characters in all of 40k, there’s literally no competition

[@dustinatkinson5744]

I guarantee if he were to return. Valdor would end Lucius' life once and for all. Because Valdor would take no pride in his kill

[@brya9681]

Lol cope. Few have more pride than Custodes. They literally think themselves better than the primarchs. Get outta here with that.

[@jayluis7701]

@brya9681 just because custodes are prideful doesn't mean valdor would take pride in killing lucius. Do you think a space marine would take pride in killing a guardsman? If not then why would valdor take pride in killing lucius as it's basically the same thing to him

[@doubledeputyd4242]

Ayo these Chaos guys kinda stink 🤢

[@somanymodsithurts8637]

Especially the death guard

[@shimazutakuma1031]

Lucius would probably die eternally if he meets sharrowkyn again... but the writers will just revive him anyway in some way, it makes him like abaddon the spoiled, just being there because they cannot replace him with something better (Huron is a good candidate but the loremakers would probably just stick to Abadon the Spoiled) 😅

[@G.I_Jane]

This guy got some of the lore wrong and mixed up. A lot of nuance and small text is lost in this

[@PierreVB-514]

The imperative tone of finality used in every single sentence narrated in this video erodes any fun I could have listening to it. 🤢🤮

[@vital1114]

Would love if ONE warganner creator didn't use the voice. Just spoke about lore in a normal and human way. I hate that every lore channel speaks as though they're literally in the universe. It's SO much worse than it could be.

[@worldsbestdad1]

this guy's channel is a gift amongst a sea of 40K historians who regularly leave out details/context in the lore or try to shill you r34 content on their patreon. The voices can take a video or two to grow on you, but The Remembrancer is the best of the best. Try appreciating the good parts of things rather than focusing solely on what you hate.