Here a hydrant, there a hydrant, EVERYWHERE A HYDRANT HYDRANT!

[@danbraun3780]

I'm 71 years old, a town (not city) dweller, and not in a place to do homesteading. But I love your channel; you inspire me. I wish I could start over. I like how you show the good, bad and ugly of your decisions and projects. I've been following you for a long time and look forward to watching you work on your house. I followed your timber framing training. You've picked up so many skills along the way, I wonder what you'll do when the house is done and your property is all setup. As you've stated a few times, I know you're often at the end of your rope and temped to quit, but I know you two are a great team and have the mental discipline and perseverance to complete your goals. Keep on keepin' on.

[@chucklesx]

Hey guys, a quick tip for your plumbing projects. Alyssa already seems to have correct but when you are using adhesive always apply to the outer surface inner pipe first not the inside of the joint socket. Not a huge issue for casing but very important for water and sewerage piping. When you do this any excess adhesive is pushed away to the outside of the joint, if you put the adhesive inside the joint it gets pushed inside of the pipe and causing a hard lump which can trap debris which often builds up and causes blockages. Love your channel and keep up the great work :-)

[@Comicsluvr]

I used to manage an apartment building and worked with LOTS of PVC pipe and what this guy says is true. Your system is fine for now but when it comes to the house, paint the outside of the smaller pipe.

[@chasbabcock]

Jesse. You have one incredible wife. God has really blessed you and you need to thank Him every day for Alyssa. She is a hard worker and very capable. Bless you two.

[@zippythechicken]

this

[@davidbacon9223]

'WOMAN AS PACKMULE'/(homeless).......... ditto! can't find the right one! and they're so angry all the time! :-0

[@kanel123boller]

Amen.

[@Frogger383]

Cheer up guys, homesteading is sometimes more about community then it's about the projects. Love the videos keep them coming.

[@purelivingforlife]

Agreed :-)

[@gwendolyng9473]

Ya'll are doing great! Hardest working couple on you tube! You have the right attitude and someday you will have a beautiful home built with love and grit. You will be telling stories about this adventure for years to come! Look at you, your doing it!

[@utubetimothy]

I totally understand where you are coming from with the help thing. It is easy to watch a video and say, "Hey why didn't you do it this way, or get help?" We are watching the process of a result, not yet determined. It seems you to have managed to develop projects which can be completed by two people, it may be hard work, but it really only requires two people. In America we are all about getting everything done right now, but I see how you value the experiential part of the process, not just the result part.

[@MrABC250]

It's great to see you guys support each other and try to find those silver linings when the going gets tough. Things always take longer than you think... but progress is progress!

[@allforthemama]

So true, like that Lennon fella said: 'life is what happens when you're busy making plans' Might be one of the rawest and most real episodes yet. Knowing you guys on KZbin I felt you were frustrated you couldn't please all the folks all the time. I vote you guys take a day a week off to not film anything or work on big projects. This day will be called Bugaboo day. I hope you guys got to tub in the end, looked like you deserved it. Great work, it'll all happen when it happens, staygold.

[@frankingram3382]

Hey kids, I have really been following you for a long time and you have really undertaken a most noble adventure. I'm pulling for you so don't get discouraged, you've had more good times than bad. Allow me to meddle just a little. You mentioned about tomorrow being Sunday, why not take the day off, and maybe make time God into your lives. God Bless my friends.

[@purelivingforlife]

Thanks for the kind comment Frank! We do try to take days off here and there. We have moments of intense work followed by small moments of rest. As I type this, we quit for the day at 8pm (early for us) and are veggin' in the air conditioning!

[@briangarrow448]

Progress is also made by the building of relationships with friends, neighbors and family. The plumbing will be there tomorrow. You or your loved ones may not, so take the time to visit and talk with the people around you. You guys are doing great, the projects are moving forward, AND you both are learning skills that will come in handy the rest of your life.

[@codysexton2195]

I'm loving the more consistent video uploads. keep up the good work!

[@codysexton2195]

Jack Connors yep sure is

[@jsimpson8018]

There is a reason they are called "Frost Free Hydrants." They need to be direct buried. ANY air space allowing above ground freezing air to get below the frost line will freeze the hydrant as well as the water line causing it to burst. The MUST be buried. Don't over think everything.

[@carolaussie87]

Jesse, Alyssa you are two very lucky people to fine one another you work so well together, not everyone fines that. I hand it to you when things seem hard you just keep on going.. Its so refreshing. Keep up the good work.

[@HeartinessApproach]

We loved the comment about "If the camera can still focus, there is still time," We laughed and laughed. We so identify with that. It is no wonder that we go to bed at 11 or 12 every night. The sun does not set until 9 so we work on. So happy you kids are getting the water done. Cheering for you as always.

[@dracovenit9549]

Don't let the shoulda couldas and the haters get to you guys. You are an inspiration! Keep up the good work! Kia Kaha!

[@grassfeeding6073]

Just a quick tip on plumbing hydrants, stainless 90's at the bottom are excellent...very good alternative to galvanized fittings. Brass used to be common but the pricing is pretty high. Best place to source this type of fitting is from a plumbing supply house.

[@MrScoresby]

You guys are doing great; in the long run doing it right is always the best choice. With the late start hope you can at least get the lower level done and the floor above on it. Then with a tarp on it; you will have a dry place to work, on the timbers, for the upper floors, over the winter. Bert

[@mathbc1984]

You work faster then I expected. You edit all your video and you work all days. It's really admirable to see that. All that and you keep It sanguine.

[@buddyl92]

I enjoy your attitude of sticking with you. You guys are awesome.

[@bearrivermama6414]

Love watching you two! Echoes a similarity to our lives. Allysa, you do an amazing job!!!! What people can't see is that as a lady you are smaller, have smaller hands, and lugging heavy stuff and wrestling awkward stuff is even tougher for you. But you persevere and make it look good! Can't wait to see what you guys take on next.

[@timelmore2]

You guys have the best attitudes for this stuff.

[@floydhynek2832]

I like the dripping sounds for a water project.

[@Mostruggles]

Hi Guys! Have you ever thought about heating the PVC pipe to make long sweeps instead of using the 22.5 and 30 degree elbows? It makes pulling so much better. They sell heat blankets and hot boxes for bending pvc pipe, however you can use a weed burner if your careful and move the torch quickly around. done it a bunch and works great for ditch bends.

[@mcc1146]

My very best to you both. You two are doing an enormus task and are working so hard. Amazing endurance and positive attitude.

[@susannielsen8688]

You two have incredible teamwork! And are learning so many new skills. And working harder than you ever did in the corporate world. But you see the results of your labor. Love seeing Bugaboo.

[@boris9305]

0:42 you gotta hate those pesky small child nests.

[@rustynails7001]

you knew damn well what he meant..lol

[@RM.-_-.]

Them damn children nest always a bother to clean out too..

[@ferky123]

Child nests always lead to more children and we don't want that.

[@ismaeltenenbaum4103]

yeah Humans are messy

[@gertnutterts988]

Child nests are the #1 reason for children not returning home when mom told them they should. Thousands of children's tardiness is impacted by children nests every year. Thank you for acknowledging the problem!

[@BearCreekWoodworking]

Your videos are SO INTERESTING! Thanks for bring us along!

[@floydhynek2832]

The person or persons who mentioned using brass fittings was/were absolutely correct. I ended up having to have my pumphouse replumbed last fall after 20 years of use. I wish I would have used brass back then because of two reasons. One it would have been much cheaper 20 years ago. And two it would not have needed to be redone. I am no longer able to do most of those things anymore so now I have to have someone else do it. I am very fortunate and I have a great friend who is a well driller. He was the one who drilled my well and redid my pumphouse. The people that seem to think you should not make any mistakes must not be doing anything. I was told a long time ago that the only way you don't make mistakes is by not doing anything.

[@pflashrich]

You can soak the rusty pipes in vinegar, rinse, clean with a brush. About a day. The hydrants don't need encasement/stand pipe, just put gravel in bottom of hole, starting under the stand-pipe, and up until the last 1 foot of ground (depending on depth of typical hard freezes. I'm in the South, so we put gravel all the way to the top. The weep hole is on the 'up' side of the valve, so I have never heard of a problem with bacteria intrusion. You might be over-thinking the issues. Using a stand pipe for the hydrants will also increase the penetration of cold down to the valve - unless you plan on filling the stand pipe with foam or insulation.

[@zetacon4]

I see the two of you have remembered the really important thing.... Keep your sense of humor going! I got a good laugh at the last bit about the camera focusing...! haha

[@aries171717]

You two are great

[@annettesmith6241]

Little by little, inch by inch you're getting there. Bugaboo is just like my cat. All lovely and meowy and affectionate till someone else appears. Then she's gone. I have friends who claim she is a figment of our imagination because they have never seen her.

[@PlanePreacher]

From experience! Even for temporary, put some t posts around the pvc valve riser!

[@ChurchClown7]

PlanePreacher They are called "Bullards" and are very effective if you fill the posts with concrete.

[@Growveguk]

Bollards..............

[@PlanePreacher]

The reason for t posts and not bollards was he said they might cut down the pvc to ground level. This was intended to be a temporary for the pvc painted orange to access the valve, not the hydrants.

[@buildexplore3278]

You guys are doing great, keep up the hard work! Eventually it will all pay off.

[@MarkSeve]

Love your personality and attitudes. Keep up the great work you guy and gal do.

[@robertl2476]

A vacation.... Not a real big on, Just relaxation for you and "the Bride"! What a nice video that would be!

[@santosbay]

Nice weekend .

[@BaeLasso]

I'm exhausted even just watching you two doing it!!! I need a break....

[@drawvenmusket]

Hi guys I have the deepest respect for the amount of thought and very hard work you are putting into all of your projects along the way to having a lifetime forever home, but sometimes it feels like you are working harder than you really need too, because you are trying to "future proof" your systems and in so doing you are wasting your time and money both of which are very limited resources just giving you my 2 cents from my years of working with the frost proof hydrants, and the black poly water lines in both 3/4 and 2 inch all 3 of these items are all rated as and intended to be directly buried in ground, I know that you are aware of this fact too from watching your great videos too. Have a great day and a better tomorrow

[@James-cs4zk]

an amazing team

[@fynbo1007]

Thank you for sharing your amazing video, God bless you and your family

[@winfieldjohnson125]

For the street elbows,inner threads can be cleaned up using a battery terminal cleaner brush.

[@islandendeavor]

I have an idea: on the end of pipe you are trying to pull: 1) put a length of dowel (or round wood into the pipe so it doesn't collapse when you 2) put a kellum grip over the pipe and then 3) use a fence puller/come-along or even just a long wrecking bar as a lever to pull on the kellum grip/pipe. Good Luck.

[@GranTorino49]

Man are you guys going to have some stories for your grand kids.....God Bless

[@purelivingforlife]

Ohhhh ya!

[@UrsaMinor2010]

A lot of really good info here. And you did great. You're good people, working hard. It will get done. And then it will be lasting wealth. I know it sounds easy for me the viewer to say it, from the comfort of my computer. But I've been through similar struggles recently and honestly I derive some joy from seeing y'all struggle too! It will make the victory that much sweeter. Get up tomorrow and keep on pushing. It will work.

[@beachlife1411]

good job both of you

[@edtin1834]

Good job! You did it your way!

[@mattpelz986]

i can't believe you put burial pipe inside pvc. so much work for no reason. I mean worst case scenario you would have had to dig a little to repair it. Fighting to fit pipe not made to fit in another pipe 7 days, digging to fix pipe if broken 1 day. watching it priceless. you two are fun thanks.

[@phillips.english1442]

Block & Tackle, And the mule that you rode up the hill on to pull the tubing with !

[@ksingleton101]

Set up some shade with a cheap Camp Gazebo and also use a come-a-log when pulling the pipe. The best knot to use to tie on a rope to your tubing (I would think) would be a Nail Knot. Love your Video's Good luck. Wish I could afford to get there to help. Love you guys, be strong!

[@johnerickennedy]

Courageous people. 🏅🛠

[@trenvan5546]

you know a lot of "pros" ie people that do this type of thing for a living would love to advise you prior to you actually doing the work... maybe a reddit? sometimes I wince a bit watching but I'm still happy you got it done :)

[@ZS6JMP]

One more thing you guys might want to think about before you dig in those hydrants. I would have a male thread on the standpipe running down into a female thread connection at the bottom. That way If you have to pull the standpipe at some point, you'll be able to apply PTFE tape. As it sits now, you are going through all the effort of making this easy to work on, just to have to dig it up to seal the threads.

[@derrellnichols8598]

White vinegar is awesome to remove rust from anything!!

[@hex0rz1]

Derrell Nichols oxalic acid

[@derrellnichols8598]

hex0rz1 never used that before... is it safe for plumbing use?

[@floydferguson5366]

Great video!

[@AsTheWheelsTurn]

you guys definitely make more work for yourselves on a regular basis, half the point of an encasement is to be able to easily fish the line back out if it ever needed replacement but you've got two lines stuffed into one encasement that is too small for them and you'll never be able to service that or run any additional lines up thru there or anything. kinda missed the whole point of it.

[@danielmaertsching735]

Wow dude, chill out. Maybe you should stop watching PLFL videos. No need to be so rude.

[@AsTheWheelsTurn]

Amber Faris -was that directed at me? If so I dont think I WAS being rude, I am just very straight forward and blunt about things. I happen to really love this channel and think very highly of these two, the reality is they do in fact make some things far more difficult than necessary and the only way they will figure that out is 1) trial and error and 2) people giving constructive criticism. Construction is my career field and I'm tellin ya they made that many many times more difficult than it needed to be and defeated most of the purpose of having there lines in an encasement to begin with thats just a fact.they spent hours and hours and hours on something that could have been a pretty quick easy deal.

[@danielmaertsching735]

AsTheWheelsTurn - Sorry this was directed at Ugf Ugf.

[@AsTheWheelsTurn]

ok NM then. I didn't see that comment until today for some reason.

[@echomegarden7900]

Hi from Australia. We've been following you for a while and love your content and keep the motivation going! 🇦🇺

[@shadowhunter6969]

buried handbox is what I used for all the various valves buried in my property for the RV and various watering zones as well as for main shut off. You can get them metal or plastic.

[@Blenderite]

If you have a bunch of those galvanized fittings that are rusted, get some Evaporust or an equivalent from Home Depot. It works wonders and will get the rust out of all the smallest crevices. Best part is that it is water based so it is not caustic (like CLR rust remover, Krud Kutter, Etc) and it is completely biodegradable. It works super quick too, depending on how think the rust is.

[@morrow.m]

Another great one guys, Keep up the good work!

[@chrisshearston2406]

In Australia we have a product call denso tape it is a cloth covered in a dense grease that we wrap around the joints to keep the air away with no air there is no rust I have dug up joints years latter and they are as good as the day it was installed we got this tape from plumbing suppliers also make sure to back fill over your pipes with 6 inches of clean fill or the pipes WILL be crushed by those rocks I am a builder with over 40 years of experience and I have seen what happens if you don't do the job right To encase the stand pipe the best way is to did a hole about a foot deeper than the bottom of the hydrant fill with 3/4 gravel to 6 inches above the pipe cover the gravel with a piece of silt cloth and backfill with sand If you have to did it up in the future sand is easier to dig than gravel or dirt

[@Moraldkhatesutube]

I like how Jesse starts name dropping the locals.

[@xysix2548]

When trying to pull two surfaces against each other, e.g. rubber covered wire inside of PVC, or ABS pipe inside PVC pipe, etc., we use wire pulling soap. ''Shhhloppp it up'' really well and your pulling would go a lot easier. Dish soap liquid, or liquid laundry detergent also works really well.

[@bevlower6793]

you guys are amazing! thank you...&...I learned something about the weep hole & potable water. keep up the good work.

[@scratchmadehomestead9343]

Lovin' the pearls Alyssa! You guys work great together! Watch that tree haha. We do the same in the heat of the day. Hang in there!

[@TheUserid82]

Pickup a 10x10 canopy. you can set it over where you are working to give shade or protect from rain. Great for most projects from plumbing jobs to working on a vehicle. Only ones it is bad for are ones that involve enough heat to melt it or swinging tools like for splitting wood by hand.

[@keithspriggs4614]

On the 2nd pipe would be a good idea to run a steel wire in the pipe. It would allow you to be able to find the pipes in future much more easily.Love the channel by the way

[@keithspriggs4614]

Sorry, Later on if the property was sold, then by using a metal detector it would be easier to find the pipes. Years ago, I was working on a building site and myself were putting in concrete posts and we were told that there was a buried pipe. Another labourer took a good couple of hours to locate a pipe as we had to dig holes to find the approximate run of pipe,A right pain in the back side.A couple of weeks later we were doing a similar job and as there was a light wire over the pipe, it took 15 minutes to plot the pipe

[@kevinhicks5143]

word of advice stay away from galvanized go with brass or you will regret it down the road,Ben there mistakenly done that.yes its more expensive but it will be worth it when your digging up all your galvanized fittings and replacing them .they will carode and plug eventualy,trust me.

[@jeffsipe4657]

So right Kevin those galvanized fittings will continue to rust and can cause your water to run red continuously depending on your water. And putting the fitting in the weep hole restricts to ability of debris in the water to get out and there will be rust coming out soon enough.

[@rixanneh18]

I was wondering about that. Thanks for the info

[@ericb9345]

Probably been said below, but those open stand pipes around your hydrants might make them prone to freezing. They are by design meant to be buried, and the head will screw off if you need to service the valve set at the bottom. Love the videos and watching your progress!

[@piratedogshomestead5196]

I don't like the heat either! How I ended up in central Arizona...I have no idea. I love the view at you guy's place!

[@nicolaiitchenko7610]

AhHaa. So that is how a spigot becomes a 'frost free spigot. I have always wondered. See - and that is the reason why I keep watching and learning from you guys... Doing great work guys...enjoy the hot tub - even if it take a little time to get there...Thank you for all that education....

[@dennisalanvids]

Good job to take your time with it and doing cool work when it's in the dead of the heat

[@eggyknap]

We've had problems with hydrants tearing up the fittings below ground and starting underground leaks, because kids swing on the standpipe, or people hang heavy buckets on them, or someone wrenches the handle, or whatever. it seems that having them in a casing, so they don't have the support of the surrounding dirt, will make that problem worse.

[@SumErgoMonstro]

I have a 16x16x2 concrete patio block covering the access to the valve from the water main to my house to allow people to walk right on top of the thing (or a car that hops the curb to drive on it) without fear of it breaking anything. In the event someone needs to shut the water off, it's easy to pry the block up and out of the way.

[@FaderWorg]

I´ve got to say, you guys are inspirational. That looks like a beast of a task. Keep at it, I´m cheering for you =)

[@ChurchClown7]

WOW -Jessie just passed Nick Fouch as "The Hardest Working Man on KZbin". Congrats!!!

[@davidashleymiller3112]

Yet he's still fat. How?

[@idahopotato5837]

Try Rectorseal for the pipe joints. Much better than tape.

[@sitkahans]

Encasement crazy, lol you two have so much energy! it is truly inspiring, so what if ya do stuff the hard way now and again, so what if ya do stuff the wrong way a time or two. The fact of the matter is you ARE DOING STUFF! and that is what matters. the rest is all just learning experience. I love your spirit and drive. keep it up and you'll have a lovely little homestead before long. -cheers from Alaska

[@hardsoup1]

I use the brass brush from a cheap gun cleaning kit to clean inside pipes. I kept one of the brass extensions and chuck one end in my drill and whatever brush size i need in the other end. Super fast and cheap.

[@patricklegault6383]

just a FYI, your never going to be able to remove the 2 inch pipe and 3/4 from the 4 inch encaissement you have so much friction and you had the help of the truck and lots of lube. now, the lube has seized-up and is lile glue. have the same issue with electrical wiring inside pipes. good luck in your project

[@wolf1713]

Hey guys. I've enjoyed watching your videos. I like and have used the double swing joint for hydrants like you did. I however, used brass for longevity. A little more expensive up front, but less problems later. Cheers!

[@ZS6JMP]

TOP TIP!!. Brown vinegar. Soak rusty items in brown vinegar, 12H later. Nice clean parts.

[@AdamBombChannel]

12:00 *in an exhausted tone* "We're just trying to get pipe..." I am immature and don't know why I died laughing at this. Probably the defeated tone and innuendo pleased my dark humor.

[@jamesdickman7291]

Nice video informative!

[@Chemist1076]

hard physical work

[@gwendolyng9473]

I just found some teflon tape while cleaning house. I didn't know what it was so I had to look it up. Should have just watched this video! lol

[@trongod2000]

White vinegar cleans up rust really really easy. No brushing required.

[@lukerobertson8366]

White vinegar will remove rust, great for cleaning up rusty tools, just soak them and rinse with fresh water. Keep an eye on using abrasive tools on galvanised materials, when you remove the rust you also remove the zinc.

[@brandonbeckemeyer1579]

Won't the main pipe freeze with the encasing going out of the ground since there is no dirt insulating the main pipe not so much worried about the stand pipe freezing

[@itsjustmoney9039]

Brandon Beckemeyer this is my thought as well.. @pure living for life

[@ericgustafson7287]

IF they stuff a wad of fiber glass insulation to seal out the cold air, they should be ok.

[@CGT80]

The main pipe is only exposed via the encasing, so I would guess that it won't be easy for the main to freeze with the minimal amount of exposure. They could add some insulation inside the vertical encasing to keep the cold air out and help keep what little heat is in the ground from escaping. While they mentioned that the encasing would allow them to replace a hydrant without digging, I could imagine a few ways for that to not work out as hoped, but I can't blame them for trying.......it might work, in the unlikely event they need to change one. Threaded pipe can really be a pain to repair later and those fittings that he wire brushed so well, will be quite rusted. At least he had a clean surface for the teflon tape, but I hope he didn't expect the fittings to stay rust free after installed.

[@brandonbeckemeyer1579]

I think in an attempt to make repairs simplified the are going to make a need for the repairs and getting the hydrant out it always seems to take a pipe wrench on the hydrant and on the elbow to break them loose. The little bit of work saved by not having to dig it out doesn't seem worth the risk of frozen pipes to me.

[@mudcrazy95]

also the most common problem will be the galvanized pipe rotting where it threads to the Brass valve causing them to have to dig it up anyway

[@AlejandroMeri]

13:59 to 14:24 Just listen and forget what the video is about, then tell me what you think! =D On another totally different topic: Good job guys, you're doing great! I have no plans of building a house but seeing you experiment with all these projects is really fun and who knows, someday I will have to do something in my house and will probably remember you guys.

[@yvonnedunlap9626]

Life is short, don't take anything for granite. Always stop and acknowledge people when they say Hi. Believe me, in 2015, I went through cancer treatments, so slow down and enjoy everything a little more. Cause you never know when your life may change, then you will have more time on your hands than you know what to do with. Just a tid bit of something I experienced. I was always in a hurry too.

[@salmonhunter7414]

You guy sound down. I always say remember to always have fun. We just started building or home. Laid the block and started to back fill.

[@tymesho]

recognizing psychological disadvantages when problem solving is key.

[@thepauldetray]

Hey folks Ive been watching and catching up on some of your previous videos. To clean inside your street elbows try a batter terminal cleaning tool with the round brush at the end its a cheap fix or go to home depot and they should have a tool for thread cleaning other than that keep the videos coming and the good work going.

[@linctexpilot8337]

A small wire brush for those internal elbow threads is common at welding supply places

[@fiendeng]

love the videos folks ! Please keep em coming. Great editing too. There is no time line in homesteading right, like improving yours is a life long endavour?

[@stevelalondejr2183]

Don't bury galv fittings use brass or SS for your hydrants. Some of your thoughts on plumbing the hyd and being non potable are wrong at least to me,sorry just my opinion and our family business is Water Wells since 1966. I have buried and installed hundreds if not thousands of hydrants here in the NW Ohio area and we freeze near 4' deep. If you bury your hydrants in an open tube chances are you will freeze your water system and maybe even break it too. There are better ways to do/plumb them,I can give you suggestions if wanted. How many PSI water line did you install? Your ground is porous so water should drain away easily so put a 4'' corrugated drain pipe on them 10' long or so. Remember they are frost free hydrants not freeze proof if used in the winter they are to be used a certain way to keep them from freezing.

[@AlexDonnett]

Steve La Londe Jr cool im from NW Ohio too wauseon

[@stevelalondejr2183]

US6 West last town in Ohio,Edgerton

[@markferrari9734]

That poly pipe can be a pain. Last project i did similar to yours, i put the casing on one section at a time, then glued it together. Using a piece of iron pipe inside the end of the poly to keep it straight enough to feed into the case without much fuss. Yeah, i had to get the dirt out of the joints to glue it, but ya gotta do what ya gotta do when working alone.

[@DoRC]

Definitely reinforce that stand pipe thing. Things like that are magnets for smashing

[@Comicsluvr]

I understand the topic of help. I've seen lots of your vids where you make a plan, something happens where you have to change the plan, and if it's just you then it's not a big deal. However, if you have a friend or two over to help, well you called them for nothing and you feel bad.