Here is Why I Have A Lawyer Dealing with my 458 Purchase

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[@Ornelas11B]

I’m confused. You bought a smashed car and have an attorney because you think you got scammed? You bought a smashed car. Shut up!

[@Evan92211]

@@Ornelas11B They needed to disclose all damages dumb dumb.

[@Isaac-iy6cu]

Video starts at 2:00

[@boofpapi]

You da man

[@AdamTrux]

Love you man

[@Safexscape]

Ferrari’s “factory welds” look like Ray Charles did them with his feet.

[@MrKalashnikov47]

Bravo.

[@MC-ht6lw]

I was thinking the same thing. All that money and that's what you get?

[@rposton919]

LOL....

[@fatjaysgarage]

💀

[@larrygomez2219]

Lol I was also thinking the same you would think Ferrari and see some deep penitration dimes instead it's a cold booger weld looks like a pot hole would have cracked that weld

[@1jiveturkey1]

Today, Mr. Spaghetti hires a pasta inspector because his spicy meatball cannoli make so much sauce.

[@jeremyhaskins2730]

Momma mia!

[@Gunrcowan]

I come for the spaghetti summary’s

[@Tate6788]

Momma called and said that inspector better not let you ruin the red sauce otherwise your in trouble 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@jbrockskill]

Wouldn’t it be a Cannoli inspector then????

[@1jiveturkey1]

@@jbrockskill jake.

[@earlmoorhead5555]

The steering rack could look the same but the ratios are different 💯

[@jooger69]

If you check the part numbers the new steering rack he put in is for 458 Speciale, 458 Speciale Aperta, 488 GTB, 488 Pista, 488 Pista Spider the old one is for 458 Challenge, 458 Italia & 458 Spider. Most likely a more track oriented rack.

[@rjai4890]

Rob seems like the kind of guy that loves a lawsuit.

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[@Timep3]

Or maybe when you're in the businnes of buying and selling a lot of cars you encounter a lot of shady people

[@chuckschillingvideos]

Shady guys from NJ always are.

[@mahlere]

Should've let them steal it. Lol

[@SpontaneityJD]

truly lmaooo

[@NickTaylorRickPowers]

Then they would have sued rob. Just his luck they'd have a case

[@DasArab]

Today Mr Spaghetti finds his 458 is actually a Fiero replica.

[@HJW018]

Imagine lmao

[@dosgos]

hahaha

[@michaellegg9381]

Lolol

[@fc3sboy1]

Rob the trw casting number may be the same however the Ferrari part number is the important one . As for what I have found dealing with various car manufacturers as I am a mechanic the oem part numbers signify any number of internal changes to fit any said car. So although the racks look identical and have the same gear box housing numbers there can an most likely have a ratio change or electronics cjange

[@Kevins93cobra]

Exactly what I was going to say, but in more words. Same exterior, different internals.

[@tocsa120ls]

And when you're done with the seller, might as well join the class action against Ferrrari b/c of the brake issues.

[@po.russki]

Rob hates class action lawsuits lol

[@tocsa120ls]

@@po.russki he hates getting blacklisted by Ferrari ;)

[@brandonroberts73]

I reckon the stripe should come off and the factory bumper should go back on, the she would be mint!!!

[@jonappleseed5270]

Love the videos rob. Always informative and interesting to hear you speak

[@termiterasin]

Rob when you stood on that milk crate I really felt that, representing us short people. SHORT PEOPLE RISE UP

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[@HollywoodMechanic]

You should def check your gearbox fluid levels and send samples for analysis. DCT usually begins leaking into gear box, lowering the viscosity of the gear oil to much lower than the 90 weight ring and pinion is designed for.

[@HollywoodMechanic]

The clutch fluid must be amber/clear (the gear oil will be black lol). If it's not absolutely see through, then gear oil is leaking into the DCT portion

[@dasauto44]

This is the good stuff! Can you do a video on Finding a certified mechanic for people who aren't really in your area of profession? And how to spot sham mechanics. Something like that please

[@thepro08]

great idea.... finding a good mechanic makes all the diference most are only interested in ripping you off as much as possible the same goes for dealers... i love cars, i hate people that work in this industry..... its full of scamers

[@OneOut1]

Thepro88. That's fumny. I din't find that to be true at all. After I talk to mechanics I find most of them to be honest. Maybe you have unrealistic expectations.

[@LugW0rm]

@@OneOut1 There are tons of mechanics who can obviously tell who is mechanically incompetent and they WILL take advantage of it. Many managers running chain shops that get bonuses if they hit quotas. It's just the human nature of certain people in charge being too greedy.

[@chuckschillingvideos]

If he knew how to do that, he would never have sent this POS to a dealer for a PPI in the first place!

[@MJTAUTOMOTIVE]

That part number is for the cast rack head, Not the part number for the rack. That rack head could be used on 50 different makes and models. The Racks might look the same, but the Ratio might be different and the weight on the rack centre point could be set for another vehicle. Maybe you should not look up ebay to check the for parts for Your High Dollar Supercar.

[@IntegraDIY]

4:52 rebuilding an F40 is well worth it. Such a beautiful car 😊

[@goltzhar]

Best of luck to you and your lawyers! That dealer need to pay...

[@davidwright6727]

Unfortunately you will lose that money grab with the lawyers. If you bought that car as-is, no warranties implied or unimplied. Done. It’s a used, beat, broken vehicle they you are going to attempt to sue someone make a profit and then attempt to gouge the next guy with selling the vehicle to. Full circle just the dealerships are much better at it than most as it is their actual jobs.

[@shawnhicks619]

@@davidwright6727 that is assuming it’s an as is sale. But I’m guessing that’s not the case or if it is and as is sale is contingent on passing a ppi then the seller may be legally in the clear and the dealer who conducted the PPI is culpable for misrepresentation. The dealer that did the ppi has the option to repair the car to meet the stated condition on their ppi or go to court. There has already been a case that the buyer won in a situation almost exactly like this involving a Ferrari f430. The dealer had to not only pay but paid more the the guy paid for the car, and the guy was awarded damages and legal fees. Does that mean this will happen to Rob? Don’t know but I’ll bet this case is referenced for sure. And remember even wrecked and repaired Ferraris have a significant value just have diminished value from unbranded cars.

[@busboy262]

If I saw a weld of that quality on a Honda, I'd be disappointed even if it was intact. But I guess if an Italian breathes on it, the weld transcends quality and enhances your lifestyle by the welder's charm. Hard to say what made the rack fail. Maybe the pope didn't bless this one. If the car was misrepresented and the deal was a fraud, that is 1 problem. But you can hardly miss the fact that the car was built broken. Maybe this fact should disappoint you as well.

[@cigarjefe]

I KNOW THIS CAR, AND THE PREVIOUS OWNER TRASHED IT. THE DEALERSHIP HAD TO KNOW IT WAS A MESS.

[@TVCHLORD]

mr spaghetti is suing the supermarket for selling him expired pasta

[@MBisFrenchy]

This dealership sold a Ferrari California to us then the manual that was claimed to be included was missing. Took almost a year and a lot of calls to get it. Ferrari of Long Island screwed up bad enough they sold their Ferrari dealership. The new owners called asking if we'd like to service the car, after explaining the previous headache and also how they once damaged the ppf on the car previously we said no way even if new owners.

[@niceday2dayman]

When you're rich you pay somebody for a pre-purchase inspection so you can sue them if you get ripped off. Rob doesn't make bad investments and Rob doesn't get ripped off on purchases. Rob simply uses his money to shift the liability elsewhere so in the rare instance that something financially unfavorable happens the liability is always split.

[@EddieIrvine106]

No, Rob pays for a PPI because he isnt a mechanic, let along a Ferrari tech, and he wanted to ensure he knew the car was good before he purchaed it, or at least be aware of anh issues that wouls affect the purchase price.

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[@crazymike401]

I only watch this channel to see when you are getting screwed in business ;) keep it up rob that’s why we are here

[@skyking228]

6 or 7 rental Corvettes might be a lucrative play in this volatile economy. Perhaps open up another operaton out West where they don't know what a "spicy meatball cannoli" is.

[@samsung5]

Swap out the fake Speciale bumper while you’re at it

[@straybullitt]

"We got weights in fish!"

[@RobCarstuff9112]

Your hair looks great! What did you pay for the transplant? Possibly make a Video

[@michaellegg9381]

Na he's suing them because they lied about it and said it would look good and the hairdresser PPI missed the cracked head and the ear leaking lolol 😂😂

[@adcampo7601]

Is that a ton of overspray or is that how they come from the factory?

[@coreycohen6160]

May not be the same part for the 488 and 458 steering rack. Ferrari sometimes doesn’t change the metal number stamping but actually changes some internals. My guess is they could be different calibration or gearing internally but are inside the same casing. This is why Ferrari sometimes needs the chassis number for your car to get the right part.

[@MrHondablink]

Why I'll never own a "formerly" damaged car. Get that ABS or SRS light finally fixed in the NSX? Wasn't that a marked title too?

[@UltraMagnis]

Bloody dealers hey! I just had a 4 month ideal with GM about a Silverado I know I know not a Ferrari but they bascially treated me the same. The truck was rusted from brand new. They left it out in the salt air in the port for like a year during covid and I bought it with a PPI and they didn't mention any of the rust. And it was bad had it inspected by an engineer and they told me the car won't be road worthy within 3 years and Australian road worthy laws you cannot have any rust on the chassis or major structural peices. And a heap of other issues like the engine grenading itself at 7000kms. They flat out refused to make it right until my lawyers sent them an email saying they have been engaged on this matter. Then they started chasing their tail and trying to repair it and doing a horrible job and not sending it to be properly fixed by a professional they essentially just sprayed rust proofing over the already rusted parts. The diff cradle was literally crumbling into my hands. Yet they just sprayed over the top of it. Eventually they bought the car back for a slight reduction in price due to the KMs on the car. Which I just took as I was done with the car. It's so annoying when they promise you quality and it turns out to be bad and they don't back their products or their sale....it's so annoying and I swore off GM, jeeps and dodges both had issues out the ass with them to. Never again. Get your lawyers to use some very aggressive language. Get them to do the fighting for you.

[@Mkeuusus8338]

Waaa waaaa, they told me only some pasta shells were cracked ! Mom help me

[@joshuagibson2520]

This dude (Rob) is as shady as anyone I've ever come across.

[@michaellegg9381]

Agreed 💯 a 🤡 trying to get free repairs to a second hand car he knew was crashed before he bought it... If was the mechanic asked to fix it I'd charge 2x the cost.. make Rob bleed for stupidity I say.

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[@RexerYTRexer]

6:55 I bet that thing will be forgot and left there. No way guy left it there on purpose

[@LtNduati]

Moral of the Story - Do not sell Mr. Spaghetti broken meatballs that you choose to call "artisanal". He will hire his private chef's to inspect your artisanal meatballs, they will call the head chef and local butchers and if they find that you sold him Walmart meatball specials claiming they were from Gordon Ramsay He will close your kitchen nightmare shops expeditiously and you will never enjoy italian cuisine ever again.

[@kjmsupercars]

Once crashed, they are never really the same. I have learned my lesson on a Z06 Corvette.

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[@CWHolleman]

Top 3 cars of all time! (For me personally)

[@Thaclaww]

In this episode, mr spaghetts get surprised when his dropped meatball is no longer a perfect sphere after picking it up

[@williamboyle8918]

Rigatoni Sniff Sniff

[@bootstraps4174]

Ok ok Rob - I’ll take it off your hands

[@intorsusvolo7834]

I know exactly how you feel. The white stripes are faded (at the time of delivery) on my 488 Pista 1/18 scale model :’(

[@OPHYCLIDE]

Rob, re: the steering rack differences, purportedly the 488 rack is 1.9 turns lock to lock vs the 458 which is 2.0 turns lock to lock. The casting numbers that you spotted are the same. Given 488 and 458 are the same chassis it makes sense that the rack case is the same part, but it may well be that the guts of the steering rack; i.e the rack and pinion components are a slightly different ratio. That would certainly account for different part numbers. Similarly, I suppose that means that you can upgrade a 458 to a slightly quicker rack if you use the 488 part number? Ferrari won’t give things separate part numbers for fun. They are too small of a company for that. Cheers, Jon M.

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[@PTMC2008]

Are you still trusting the dealer who sold you the Gallardo? He sold you a car with a bad transmission.

[@DoudD]

Re: PPI. Obviously not all PPIs are the same. There are lots of otherwise good mechanics who don't know what to look for with respect to body/frame damage. Or were not made aware of previous accident damage and therefore were not focusing on that aspect of a PPI. And, yes, some just don't do a very good job. You can't just drop a car off and say "Do a PPI". You need to discuss what the PPI will specifically cover. Sometimes a customer will want (and pay for) a very detailed inspection taking several hours or more. Others will want (and pay for) just a cursory inspection that might uncover only the most glaring problems. I don't know what happened in this case; not trying to cast aspersions on anyone nor excuse anyone. But, it might be interesting to see that actual PPI report.

[@johnbriggs3916]

It's obvious that in this case the dealership doing the PPI must have had a relationship with the seller.

[@DoudD]

@@johnbriggs3916 That's certainly possible, yes, but I don't see it as being "obvious". Simple incompetence seems just as likely, IMO.

[@johnbriggs3916]

@@DoudD It's not simple incompetence - but really complicated incompetence is always possible. But the seller lived 12 miles from the dealership - what are the odds that they had sold him the vehicle (before or after the crash) or had helped botch the repairs?

[@DoudD]

@@johnbriggs3916 Speculate to your heart's content. And, hey, you may be right. But look up "Hanlon's Razor".

[@jim5k]

In today's episode of how Rob got ripped off...

[@Mike-zf4ev]

You bought a car from someone you didn't trust in the first place? Makes total sense to me.

[@marisasob]

"Let's sell the car to a car rental comapy, it gets wrecked anyway" - This is the vibe i get from the seller...

[@darrengriffin3794]

Buys crashed car......what should he expect

[@xBrabus76]

Well.u have extra parts for the non desired/wishable accident never occurs or you can sell em now but I Guess your still checking the extensive damage...... oh yes I hear that now!!

[@Treypatunas]

The Keeps is treating you well mr.Spaghetti

[@Mkeuusus8338]

That was hair transplant from butt hair

[@Mkeuusus8338]

That was hair transplant from butt hair

[@dc_dial]

We bought a rav 4 and after bought it the service engine screen won’t go away and there looks like there was a fire in the engine bay, they replaced the stuff and they claimed it could’ve been a “raccoon” when we don’t have raccoons where I live. Should I get a lawyer involved? Paying for a $36k car with problems from the start

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[@elmundo1871]

By my calculations, thats a $300 sticker

[@Bwill-hn2pc]

What kind of lawyer does this kind of work?

[@michaellegg9381]

A ambulance chaser lawyer lol 😂 in other words a leach or scumbag or any other words to describe a P.o.s

[@RCGshakenbake]

When your pasta has already been chewed. I could never buy a car that had been wrecked like that no matter how "good of deal" it is. You're just burning money (I understand he can do that) and putting your life in others hands.

[@Beaver-be8vk]

Complete hack repaired that. Overspray everywhere.

[@TheKicksBoy]

This is what happens when you try to get a Ferrari on the cheap you should’ve known better

[@dysphunktion]

Very big difference between "on the cheap" and "as cheap as willing to go". Rob doesn't tend to scrape the bottom of the auction barrel... that being said, he knew this was somewhat of a gamble but that is why he was falling back on the PPI, which turned out to F him as well.

[@peterpavlidakey8343]

Sorry to hear the story of the car. If the car was properly represented and the PPI actually caught all the issues. From the price the car was offered at what would have been the delta/percentage decrease that would have made sense or knowing what you know now would you have just looked for another one and not bothered?

[@bang2020]

Today I realized mr spaghetti looks like he got in a fight with a brown sharpie. Lots of freckles I never noticed before.

[@ESPSJ]

You should try get rid of that thing. Make the dealer that did the PPI buy it off you for what it owes you.

[@johndaviddeturris6997]

What is a “PPI”? I like Rob but isn’t a case of “buyer’s beware”?

[@venom5809]

You needed a lawyer 5 minutes after you bought that car, what a shady dealership.

[@jdlc24]

Maybe the steering ratio is different? The gears inside.

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[@elcheapo5302]

EVERYTHING to do with cars is shady: buyers, sellers, mechanics, transporters, everyone. You might think you know the one guy that isn't, but you really don't.

[@Mark-vn7et]

Well with your nickname it’s no wonder “you get what you pay for”

[@Bwill-hn2pc]

Hair looks great, bud

[@Mike44460]

@ 11:15, I would be interested to know just how many of us that view these videos by Rob, could actually purchase the Lamborghini he is pointing out.

[@TomTom-gn9mp]

@5:56 is that a dead snake?

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[@heyitsjel]

Is that amount of overspray on the chassis normal? I really hope it isn't, given how much these cars cost...

[@shawnhicks619]

Based on what I’ve seen looks about normal.

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[@furkadurka]

@6:01 that weld sure does look cracked could be the video tho

[@shackledkings]

We need another ticket challenge. Maybe get tickets clinic to sponsor it. Love to see you and Matt Farah doing videos, again

[@rareearthmetal5019]

the ol spaghetti factory making sure the meatballs are meatballs

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[@cosmiccausation7668]

What a terrible weld from Ferarri.

[@jcerullo5015]

never heard of buyer beware you bought a car that was in a accident.

[@MrBloodguns]

So are you gonna sell it or have them give you half your money back?

[@antoniobatista8009]

why you don´t make a Spaghetti brand in stead of rental supercars?

[@furyofbongos]

Sorry, what's PPI?

[@bigalsgarage9323]

Pre Purchase inspection

[@furyofbongos]

@@bigalsgarage9323 Thank you.

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[@tdlaustralia7791]

Maybe the rack speed is different.

[@buktownx]

You know how many issues like that I have had with my High Performance Audi?...nothingggggg

[@Lexor888]

That's why I would never buy a wrecked sports car like all car youtubers and then fix it myself... It might work for americans where the fastest you can (legally) go is like 85 - I live in Autobahn country, if those where my cars they'd see use beyond 150 on a regular basis and I wouldn't trust a car fixed by some content creator or backyard repair shop.

[@tiggie_96]

Calm down Toretto

[@OneOut1]

Isn't 150 Kph equal to about 85 mph?

[@Lexor888]

@@OneOut1 If I talk about 85 being the limit in america you really think the second time I mention a speed without a unit on it that I switched to km/h??? Of course I'm talking about 150 MILES PER HOUR which should roughly equate to 240ish KILOMETERS PER HOUR

[@lillexus5589]

If only you would know how many cars on the German roads have been welded together out of Estonia and Latvia :)

[@organiccold]

Nothing special as damage goes, but as you say Rob if didn't got what you paid for. Other than that is a car with good bones. Another advice is keep that bumper in the car as you going for a road trip as it's aftermarket.

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[@trut52]

the hair looks good Rob

[@drizzify7850]

Why did I read 458 Porsche. I think I'm dyslexic.

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[@mitch9894]

Holy over spray batman!

[@1VIPWRX]

Car biz is so jacked sometimes

[@2Barts1]

Anyone else mildly annoyed by the light he used to inspect the car? Like come on the thing still has a cord on it, we are in 2022!

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[@intorsusvolo7834]

Maybe this is why Audi offers you to pick up the car at the factory (for a price).

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[@shadow.banned]

Would a PPI have even seen that?

[@michaellegg9381]

The leak yeah should have.. a cracked weld probably not unless it's really obvious.. but he bought a second hand car knowing it was crashed in the front end so he's just bitching to get free repairs and upgrades.. typical Ritchie rich 🤡

[@FeelsDonkMan]

I'm confused how you are talking to lawyers and also going straight ahead and replacing parts, isn't this how the dealer can now blame you for some of the problems, and pretend you caused them? Or they can say something like they need to see the car again but now that you've changed things they can't evaluate it fairly anymore. Of course I know nothing about this stuff.

[@cbmerritt]

No big surprise when you buy a wrecked car.

[@imchris5000]

the quality of the factory welds are pretty pathetic

[@rappeezy]

Points to socket wrench "this a tool it's not part of the car." Who exactly is your demo sir?

[@granthawtree4669]

Thanks for the 458 update Rob was really curious as to what/where things were going and F*** the guy/dealer who tried to pull the BS blanket

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[@kevin-l7r7p]

hmmm..juicy insurancec cash , i lov it, but can' say it..but i do lov it

[@maveric585]

Bought a smacked up Ferrari and complains it’s damaged well then don’t buy it

[@michaellegg9381]

Exactly 💯

[@rposton919]

Is it odd that steering racks on Ferraris only last a few thousand miles whereas everyone else's last hundreds of thousands of miles?

[@TheCobruhAlienat0r]

I wouldn't be surprised if this is a rollback, seems odd that it would fail so early.

[@shawnhicks619]

Could be damage from accident too. Too hard to guess why it failed.

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[@ramonkey2939]

Scrap it and buy a C8 corvette

[@handymanmaloy]

Daniel Larousse 🤣 but nah fr you look just like him. Anyone else agree?

[@dstate3036]

This Rob guy is a special guy . Complaining about everything. Just fix the car RobGuy.

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[@zeomarmob]

I think you are being unfair.. but that’s my opinion… you bought a car that has been in accident. The guy that sold you the car might not noticed it him self that the weld was cracked. If you are so good (no sarcasm) at pointing out/ finding the problems your self. Why didn’t you do the PPI your self? I don’t know man. I respect you and enjoy watching your content, but I can’t agree with on this one. Sound more like a wokee that got screwed. Yes dealer is at fault that they did not catch that crack. But I bet you they don’t check if there is damages on cylinder walls either. Usually the PPI is very generic. And you know that. Also if the frame was damaged and repaired well I wouldn’t be concerned much. I haven’t worked with Ferraris yet but I did worked on Aston Martin, and their sub frame is really poor quality. Usually the repair is better quality. I’ve seen air space or air plane parts being welded or repaired because new ones are cost a lot more. Lot of expensive items in many different industries are repaired due to cost of buying new. One thing I do agree with you, is that there is a lot of idiots that trying to fix cars that should not work on cars to begin with. Like an English teacher that can’t spell America…

[@matthoffman8162]

Ferraris: Built to be wrecked.

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