Here's how we save movie theaters!

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The Nando Cut

The Nando Cut

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@joshisasjoshdoes8760
@joshisasjoshdoes8760 5 ай бұрын
The usher thing is so real. I had the WORST theater experience of my life a few months ago while watching godzilla x kong a group of people came in late, were talking at full colume the whole time and taking pictures with the flashes on just to leave a whole 30 minutes before the movie even ended. Just insane behavior we really do need ushers. With bats.
@jcavonpark
@jcavonpark 5 ай бұрын
I’d love to see theaters get reinvented. Better screens, better seats, better overall experience. Maybe free or lower priced food. I agree about ushers. I remember when I was a kid, we had them, so I don’t know what happened to that. Probably theaters cutting costs.
@NybergCarl
@NybergCarl 5 ай бұрын
Most of this stuff has happened. Seats are better, by a bunch.
@danyg4063
@danyg4063 5 ай бұрын
Better overall experience, exactly. Movie theaters weren't in the movie business. They were in the experience business. Going to the movies was about the experience. These days, TVs and home sound systems are just as good if not better than a theater, so you get the same experience at home for a fraction of the cost. Barbie and Oppenheimer were incredible movies, but they didn't do well in the box office because they were good movies. They did well because the "Barbenheimer" double feature experience is what brought people out. Movies aren't necessarily getting worse. You look at movies from the mid 90s that were well received in theaters are just as "good" as say "Dial of Destiny" or "Ghostbusters: Frozen Empire". But why would we pay 20 bucks to experience something we can do at home for 5? Movie theaters want to survive? You need to make it worthwhile. Make it an experience again, not just a movie.
@Guimhj
@Guimhj 5 ай бұрын
Distributors have been asking for more and more money, we need more mid budget movies that don't have to pack rooms for the theater to turn a profit
@DemLep
@DemLep 5 ай бұрын
The problem with the price of concessions is that is where movie theaters make most of their money. During the first 2 weeks of a movies run most of the money from tickets goes to the studio. And movie theaters are really expensive to run.
@rj108
@rj108 5 ай бұрын
Hi there! Theater Operations Manager here! If you think we can give away food, you’re crazy.
@AudioVideoDiscoFTW
@AudioVideoDiscoFTW 5 ай бұрын
One of my Movies Theatres has Tot matinees. They are supposed to be for parents with toddles who might need to walk around or cry during a movie but in my experience, it’s mostly been ppl would wanna talk and hang out while a movie plays. They don’t turn the lights all the way down and they make sure it’s not super loud. The existence of Tot screening means all the other showing are zero noise tolerance showing.
@charlottebligh649
@charlottebligh649 5 ай бұрын
Oh that's awesome! Hope that takes off!
@JP-1990
@JP-1990 5 ай бұрын
Also bring back crying rooms!
@singularrookhart7501
@singularrookhart7501 5 ай бұрын
Alamo Drafthouse is doing essentially that. Tuesday showings prior to 2pm are both lax on rules and a reduced price. As previously mentioned, that means strict enforcement otherwise.
@hcxpl1
@hcxpl1 5 ай бұрын
That does seem to be the perfect answer to the problem Nando posited at the end. I don't go often to the movies but when I do it is kinda weird to me to go with someone and not comment anything so yeah, why not have sessions which are more okay with talking?
@joshmosh-sx7ej
@joshmosh-sx7ej 5 ай бұрын
My local one have tots, dementia friendly screenings, autism friendly screenings etc which I think is honestly fantastic. Having family and loved ones with autism I think it is great to have accessible screenings like that
@hwelsh201
@hwelsh201 5 ай бұрын
‘Movie Bouncers’ would have been a good, early aughts big studio comedy
@MasonHockingYT
@MasonHockingYT 5 ай бұрын
write it!
@marniekilbourne608
@marniekilbourne608 5 ай бұрын
I was often my own movie bouncer haha! I had zero problem telling people to STFU rather than letting them ruin the movie for me. My elementary education degree helped me somewhat with that skill my language was just sometimes different in the theater. I would also tell the workers and make it clear they need to DO their job. When I was a kid, you could very much get hushed and kicked out if you were being two loud.
@swordplaysorcery
@swordplaysorcery 5 ай бұрын
Former theater manager here, definitely have a few thoughts! 1) LOVED THE VIDEO! Thank you for bringing the subject to light. 2) On the topic of Ushers: I can't speak for every theater, but at my theater we tried very hard to have an employee (Usher) monitor each movie for a few minutes at a time. The problem for us starts with payment. We were fortunate enough to pay more than the minimum wage, but for every time we raise the wage, our prices went up. On top of that, almost all theaters are capped at how many employees they are allowed to schedule because of payroll and overhead bonuses. So on one hand, we would love to schedule more Ushers to just monitor auditoriums! On the other hand, we almost never have the time or manpower because of either scheduling OR because we have to clean auditoriums. And when you have a theater with recliners, you gotta wipe every seat down, sweep under the legs, clean the cup holders... all before the next show starts. 3) We absolutely need longer theatrical windows. I nearly jumped for joy (pun intended) when they announced Inside Out 2 would have a MINIMUM of 100 day in theaters. I was ECSTATIC! We need more movies to stay in theaters LONGER. 4) Also, don't forget it is illegal to video/take photos of a movie! Some theaters still have the $500 bounty reward to reporting those people!
@WRPLpodcast
@WRPLpodcast 5 ай бұрын
Look at Elemental, not a huge hit at first, but stuck around much longer than expected and made much more money
@brandononbrand
@brandononbrand 5 ай бұрын
⁠@@WRPLpodcaststill a financial flop for Disney, given how expensive it was… and still on the low end for Pixar. Family movies like Elemental can leg out more easily… but what about other genres that flame out faster?… and, as soft as Elemental was, it still did well enough to hang on to screens. What about movies that lose their screens within a couple of weeks?
@HoboBrute
@HoboBrute 5 ай бұрын
Will say, as someone who worked at one of the early expansion Alamo's outside of Texas, Alamo has always treated their staff like trash. Shout out to the employees unionizing though, glad they're getting their due
@sathrielsatanson666
@sathrielsatanson666 5 ай бұрын
To be fair, all corporations do. Amazon, Tesla, all the big game companies...
@HoboBrute
@HoboBrute 5 ай бұрын
@sathrielsatanson666 not saying they don't, but to this day, Alamo is the only job where working an 8 hour shift cost me money. Servers were required to pay out portion to buss and kitchen staff, which I support, except they based it on sales and not actual tips. So if we had a big group order a ton and not tip, we'd still have to pay out, so there were nights where I'd end up losing 10-20 bucks for the whole evening. Friends who worked in the kitchen and bar areas had their own horror stories, so ya, it was maybe the worst "restaurant" gig I ever worked
@sathrielsatanson666
@sathrielsatanson666 5 ай бұрын
@@HoboBrute damn, sounds absymal ☹️
@marclapuma
@marclapuma 5 ай бұрын
Man their chips and queso is pretty solid tho. But yea you gotta take care of your employees
@WillieFreeman
@WillieFreeman 4 ай бұрын
I'm only at 6:18 and I have to pause the video and say YES!!! Theatres must change if they want people to spend money to go there. The cost of a trip to the theater for one movie is more than a month of a streaming service.
@actualnotanewbie
@actualnotanewbie 5 ай бұрын
Okay I must butt in on the "theater etiquette" thing; I have seen movies in multiple theaters in four states post COVID, and have had no etiquette issues, whether it's a massive blockbuster like the Dune movies, The Batman, Barbie, or the Tenet re-release, or smaller films like The Sound Of Freedom or Civil War. We're talking big theaters, small theaters, IMAX in the city and holes in the wall in the middle of the cornfields. Maybe it's the showtimes I pick, but even the normal Saturday night showings I've been to have been perfectly fine. It boggles my mind when people complain about this because that experience is just so foreign to me.
@usernamesmeannothing
@usernamesmeannothing 4 ай бұрын
I’ve had exactly the same. All of my cinema (I’m English sorry for my prose) experiences have been great. However... that doesn’t invalidate the lesser experiences people have had. Not saying that’s what you’re doing, just reinforcing that these bad experiences are indeed real.
@Rock-Child
@Rock-Child 5 ай бұрын
For the whole beginning of ATSV (the vulture fight), a bunch a hooligans were saying “smash” or “what’s going on” before we complained and they left before we got an employee
@nalday2534
@nalday2534 5 ай бұрын
What's going on is so funny lmao
@alexanderstorti7770
@alexanderstorti7770 5 ай бұрын
Having worked for my local Regal for seven years, I can attest to and agree with ALL of this.
@luckycharm1411
@luckycharm1411 5 ай бұрын
As a teenager, I know a few kids my age with just overall poor etiquette (not all just a few). I think ushers would demotivate poor manners in theaters. Great vid Nando!!
@Hunted_Productions
@Hunted_Productions 5 ай бұрын
As someone who learned how to interact with people through movies (autism) I try to get out to the theatre as much as I can. I’ve been 4 times and for every movie but argyle (because no one else was there) people have talked and repeated the jokes (fall guy), been on their phone to text and take pictures mid movie (dune) and even climb over seats and make a huge scene instead of just asking people to move their feet in a little (furiosa). And that was at 3 different theatres. Ushers are a necessity at this point, because if I’m getting over movie theatres most people are.
@aboxinspace
@aboxinspace 5 ай бұрын
This is why I make sure to always go to watch a movie in theatre after it's been around for *weeks* - the session will be basically empty 🙏... As another autistic fella, it's such a relief!!! I saw "Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes" on its last day of showing on my city - there was only 1 couple (totally chill) and myself haha. Paradise
@jansengoldtrap4566
@jansengoldtrap4566 5 ай бұрын
I had the idea that theatres should have like hangout rooms, for if you want to talk about the movie with the other people from your showing. Seems like a decent idea for creating more social spaces, and it would add a layer to the theatre experience that you don't have at home. They already have those party rooms no one uses.
@KalychoKid
@KalychoKid 5 ай бұрын
There’s been a couple instances at my local theater where the lights don’t go off when the movie starts and it takes like 15 minutes before someone corrects it. Definitely bring the ushers back.
@kiana.malcolm
@kiana.malcolm 5 ай бұрын
This is too real
@brandononbrand
@brandononbrand 5 ай бұрын
Or there’s one light that stays on the whole time… or they leave the door open, so ambient light and noise spills into your movie. I’ve often had to get up and shut the door during the movie… Nando’s best point is that we the moviegoers have to become the ushers… and who wants that added stress and distraction when trying to watch a movie?
@jackobrien5110
@jackobrien5110 5 ай бұрын
At the opening night of aqua man 2 the woman next to me gave her kid an ipad and headphones and the kid (about 11) just watched KZbin the entire time and then halfway through she answers a phone call and tried to tell someone where they were in the theater before she stood up and screamed hey we are over here to who was presumably her husband who then came up to the seats and sat with them and I was the only person in the theater who reacted in any way even though it was packed
@brandononbrand
@brandononbrand 5 ай бұрын
Yeah, it’s sad when the whole audience sits there and just accepts the bad behavior, thus encouraging more of it. And thus putting more stress on us “citizen ushers.”
@dvdchan90
@dvdchan90 5 ай бұрын
It's not even about talking on the phone, many times people pull out their phones they are on 100 percent brightness. That's worse for me
@brandononbrand
@brandononbrand 5 ай бұрын
Even low brightness takes me out of the movie if it’s in my field of view. Such jerks.
@capnandy462
@capnandy462 5 ай бұрын
“Oh, it’s the internet’s fault, attention spans are too short now” *Jenny Nicholson lights the world on fire with a 4 hour video*
@ViggieSmallss
@ViggieSmallss 5 ай бұрын
people under the age of 18 aren't watching a 4 hour documentary
@kadegetslaid634
@kadegetslaid634 5 ай бұрын
​@@ViggieSmallssi did LOL
@sathrielsatanson666
@sathrielsatanson666 5 ай бұрын
Well, I know you jest but it's apples and oranges. First one, and that is a big one, Jenny's videos are free so that is first big hurdle for movies. Second, the tickets were helluva expensive to this Star Wars hotel . But I am sure that even if the video did not perform so well Jenny would still be fine because of Patreon . But one or two big movies flopping could bankrupt a movie studio with the cost of movies skyrocketing. Third, ease of access. Yes, Jenny video is 4 hours but you can watch it whenever, split it into hundred parts or invent a cancer cure while you watching it. Not so with movies: you need to find time, travel to the cinema, sometimes very far if you are in a smaller city and those 2-3 hours you can't really do anything else. So there.
@BlckSWANWhtRbbt
@BlckSWANWhtRbbt 5 ай бұрын
​@@sathrielsatanson666 That isn't really the argument parents are making when they that their kids would rather watch a KZbin video over a movie. 8 year olds aren't paying and don't schedule. Also movies at home exist. A disinterest in movies is an entirely separate issue.
@HeyIsaiddontlookwtfwhatiswrong
@HeyIsaiddontlookwtfwhatiswrong 5 ай бұрын
And how much of that 4 hour video are you paying full attention to, or are you playing it in the background while you do other stuff
@Parkerdeal
@Parkerdeal 5 ай бұрын
My nuttiest theatre experience was during the climax of infinity war (you know… the blip. A silent and tense scene), a baby was crying/screaming and the parent wouldn’t leave the room (which, as a parent of a toddler - is crazy) and people were yelling “get the baby out of here!” And then after many minutes, they finally did. And then half the theater cheered. And then… I mean, that was most of the length of one of the highest tension points of 10 years worth of a cinematic universe, gone 🙃 Ushers sounds like a good idea lol
@ProjektTaku
@ProjektTaku 5 ай бұрын
That's vile, imagine watching one of the biggest scenes in movie history, hell, a huge twist from a movie that was built up for 10 years with a sequel the next year, only to hear a baby wailing and a stubborn parent not taking it out.
@jj-reads
@jj-reads 5 ай бұрын
A couple summers ago I went to a movie in the afternoon and none of the staff even noticed they never turned the lights off in our theater. Like 10 minutes into the movie someone got up and I guess let them know and that’s when they finally turned them off. I think that’s just evidence no staff are watching you once you go into the theater…
@adamjudge2899
@adamjudge2899 5 ай бұрын
Could not agree more about ushers. There should be a certain level of decorum in a shared experience like this
@RainbowMoe
@RainbowMoe 5 ай бұрын
As someone who is a zillennial, I’ve had to DRAG my friends who are younger than me to movie theater. Actually had friends shocked I still go. This is bad sadly. They don’t want to go for a few reasons from what I’ve noticed. They don’t like how loud it is (the people and the theater audio), THIS IS A BIG ONE EVERY SINGLE PERSON IVE BROUGHT SAYS THIS. I’ve had a few instances of people coming with me with noise cancelling headphones to muffle the sound. And people want subtitles. As hearing difficulties become super more commonly discussed, even people who don’t have hearing difficulties, the younger generation likes them including me. My partner is deaf in one ear and hoh in the other meaning we cannot go because he will not be able to watch. I think these aspects get commonly overlooked how much people actually want them. I’ve been super passionate about movie theaters for my entire life so seeing my generation and younger slowly phase it out makes me..really sad. I definitely agree on your suggestions, I think as the modern era adapts movie theaters need to adapt with it
@rosalie.e.morgan
@rosalie.e.morgan 5 ай бұрын
The volume is a problem. It really needs to be set under any threshold that's going to cause damage, and I'm not convinced it always is
@brandononbrand
@brandononbrand 5 ай бұрын
Yeah, theaters often mistake loud sound for good sound… or they fear that if they turn down the volume, you’ll notice just how bad their sound system is.
@maddenrs
@maddenrs 5 ай бұрын
I hear ya.weirdly for me, I passed on Godzilla minus 1 in the theaters at the time expecting to see it a few weeks later like everything else. But then I find out the two GodIlla franchises can't compete, so I have had to wait forever to see it on Netflix. I saw GodIlla vs King Kong ( the latest one) streamed before Minus 1 became available. I do plan to see the up and coming big ones you mentioned here in the theater.
@DubiousStory
@DubiousStory 5 ай бұрын
Sorry. The best we can do is Morbius 2.
@BluishGnome
@BluishGnome 5 ай бұрын
The point you make about the crazies who make noise in theaters because they don't care is exactly why you don't confront people who play loud music in NYC subways. Those people are looking to pick a fight and without any authority figures around, they feel emboldened. You bet that the moment a cop steps into the car, they turn their music off immediately. I bet people who talk in theaters would do the same if an usher occasionally came by to walk up and down the stairs.
@nancykerrigan
@nancykerrigan 5 ай бұрын
Mm. We'll see. I feel like there seems to be a discussion around policing these past few years and not in a pro- kinda way.(Not getting into the politics of it, just an observation) I don't think theaters would use ushers because they fear the problem patron or patrons would go full Karen or Chad and threaten to sue and theaters won't want that. And pity the employee who has to do that job.
@markanderson7236
@markanderson7236 5 ай бұрын
​@@nancykerrigan Yep. If ushers keep going overboard with theater protection, it'll just end up with lawsuits and bad press. It'll look like a police state.
@SwizzleMix
@SwizzleMix 5 ай бұрын
@@nancykerrigan Less the politics of "policing" (good) and more surrounding "police officers" (not good)
@zacharyzeutzius4550
@zacharyzeutzius4550 5 ай бұрын
On Monday, I went to the movies and there was someone who checked their phone seven times, a crying baby, and tons of frat-type boys continually whispering and giggling. Movie theater etiquette has gone down the drain since we all spent a year in quarantine watching movies in our house….
@TheCesmi23
@TheCesmi23 5 ай бұрын
I live in Turkey. In 2021, a movie ticket was about 10 TL, and I used to go to the cinema very often. However, now it costs 215 TL, and as a film student, I haven't been to the theater even once this year. I know the situation in the US is not as bad as it is here, but still, people have to be more selective these days. We don't have the money to experiment. Also, we already have ushers here, but I don't know if they're not doing their jobs or something, because people are still on their phones throughout showings and it drives me mad. I do agree with the release window thing tho. EDIT: I also just remembered that we have a law in Turkey that forbids streaming services to release movies until at least 6 months have passed since the theatrical release. So that's a plus...
@carlosbarbour
@carlosbarbour 5 ай бұрын
I don’t know about the bouncer solution but what you described as the problem is correct for me. When I went out to the movies I never had a good time. People pulling out their phones, talking etc… Why would anyone spend so much money to have a bad time. I did like your idea of showing when the movie will go to streaming. If it was 1 year later I think that’d be about right.
@justicecurry6433
@justicecurry6433 5 ай бұрын
when I saw fall guy with my wife there was an entire row of ppl talking just regular. no whispering, no shushes. just full on convos as of they were in there own living room. and thennnn to go to the bathroom they took out there phone flashlights 😂😂 it was so insane I wouldn't even think to do that
@fluxrider
@fluxrider 5 ай бұрын
Kids have never seen an actual flashlight, so for them it's second nature to use a phone when it's dark. I always forget, and double check the locations of flashlight during a storm even though my phone is in my pocket.
@markanderson7236
@markanderson7236 5 ай бұрын
​@@fluxrider 17 years ago account? OP's talking about phone flashlights, and those can be blindingly bright.
@TheChiefBusta
@TheChiefBusta 5 ай бұрын
Maybe its just the way i was raised (going to see a movie in theaters was something we did at least once a month, but often more if there was a lot of good stuff coming out) but i consistently go to movie theaters even now im on my own. A couple of things ive noticed is that when i go to an imax movie people seem to be better behaved, and i believe this is because of the higher buy in, you only get the people who really care about the movie. Even schlocky stuff like godzilla x kong had a perfectly polite audience. Also more filmy movies have better audiences imo for the same reason. Earlier screenings seem to generally be better, no drunk people (generally) and less rowdy teens, though there is a higher kid risk depending on the movie. I acknowledge ive maybe just gotten lucky but I havent gotten too many crazy instances of bad behavior, so maybe some of those things i tend to do might help the individual movie goer.
@vladimirad
@vladimirad 5 ай бұрын
I think you hit it on the nail with theatre management. Up here in Canada the experience seems to be getting worse. When my wife and I went to see Black Panther 2 there was this family with kids who did not seem to care about watching the movie. Ultimately, my wife no longer wants to see movies in theatre and I always try to go weeks after, at which point it sometimes it’s only showing on more expensive screens.
@liampugh
@liampugh 5 ай бұрын
I’m not sure the people at my local theatre even clean it. I suggested it to the person at the ticket counter after sitting in a particularly disgusting theatre and they just gave me a defeated look and went back to their phone.
@RajlivHD
@RajlivHD 5 ай бұрын
I think the problem with a lot of the flops has to do with marketing and how the films doesn't stand out, compared to something like Oppenheimer and Barbie. Audiences want something new and aesthetically Furiosa looks IDENTICAL to Fury Road (understandably so) and even the titles are very similar with "Furiosa" and "Fury Road". Same thing with The Fall Guy, kinda has the same aesthetic and title to Free Guy and also shares the title with the video game "Fall Guys". With audiences just glancing over these films, it's hard to differentiate. The Zone of Interest, which is a very niche but UNIQUE film, made 50,000,000USD globally.
@RajlivHD
@RajlivHD 5 ай бұрын
And studios releasing films like Immaculate and The First Omen right after each other doesn't do anyone any favours. And has anyone seen the posters for The First Omen and Monkey Man, which were released on the same day? They are literally IDENTICAL.
@MattBarrIsTricky
@MattBarrIsTricky 5 ай бұрын
I feel like this is coming from an area where movie theaters aren't dead, just dying. Out in the smaller towns theaters are full dead. Less than 5 people per showing. And the reason why is 100% ticket price.
@nrrork
@nrrork 4 ай бұрын
Well, if they can find a model that works, they'll come back. If demand is brought back, someone will eventually supply it.
@JamesLawner
@JamesLawner 5 ай бұрын
Dan Murrell made a good video discussing the same topic. One thing I would add to improve theaters is that there should be security checks to prevent any gun violence or other violence from taking place. Also, make certain days of the week a Discount Day where tickets cost less than usual (and even some food items could cost less too), that’ll definitely bring more customers.
@o.a.j.8168
@o.a.j.8168 5 ай бұрын
I think the movie theater experience might be a big reason why a lot of Americans won't go see any of the new movies. In my country (the Netherlands) the amount of people that go to the movie theaters is almost on the same level als before covid. We don't have the same problems as American movie theaters, the air is clean and people are silent. So I think if American theaters would solve their problems people would probably go more to the cinema.
@smellysox1567
@smellysox1567 5 ай бұрын
In my local area in England, I've never seen any of these atmosphere issues in my life and often, theatres are packed full, and the people are silent, besides the occasional chuckle.
@sathrielsatanson666
@sathrielsatanson666 5 ай бұрын
Yeah, that might be the case. I don't go to the cinema more than a couple of times a year but have never encountered such a terrible movie public.
@boriskravchenko454
@boriskravchenko454 5 ай бұрын
It does seem to be a problem mostly with American theaters, I'm in Canada and while our theaters are kinda crap in terms of snacks and seats I've not had any crazy experiences like that. I don't go quite as much as I used to at one time in my life but still pretty frequently. The worst I've seen this year has been a couple people chatting (quietly, but they were right behind me) for like 10mins during an Alien anniversary screening.
@Amy-yh8kf
@Amy-yh8kf 5 ай бұрын
If I am not looking forward to seeing a movie in the theater, I will NOT go to the movies! I already live in a very expensive NYC AND pay for DisneyPlus, AppleTV+, Netflix, HBO Max & Amazon Prime! At approximately $20-$30 per ticket, I might as well wait for the movie to become available (at one of the many subscriptions I pay for) in a few months!
@NybergCarl
@NybergCarl 5 ай бұрын
Streaming subscriptions are too expensive.
@michaelnottebart720
@michaelnottebart720 5 ай бұрын
I was an employee at the Alamo Drafthouse on South Lamar in Austin Texas from 2015 to the pandemic, I then started working part time at the same Alamo about 6 months ago and I can confirm that over the course of these past 9 years the quality of life as an employee of this company has definitely taken a huge dip.
@nancykerrigan
@nancykerrigan 5 ай бұрын
Why is that? Is it under staffing?
@Thabosefoloshia
@Thabosefoloshia 5 ай бұрын
To save theaters all movies must be Venom or in the Venom Cinematic Universe
@heroicgangster9981
@heroicgangster9981 5 ай бұрын
I do not know if this is sarcasm or actually real because Venom movies do have that mainstream appeal XD It just depends if that mainstream appeal can fight against THE ROUGH ECONOMY -3-"
@DMacB42
@DMacB42 5 ай бұрын
I can't wait for the Venom/Knives Out crossover.
@sathrielsatanson666
@sathrielsatanson666 5 ай бұрын
​@@heroicgangster9981I am sure it is bearing in mind Morbius and Madame Web (i know it was not technically in Venomverse, don't @ me).
@Thabosefoloshia
@Thabosefoloshia 5 ай бұрын
@@sathrielsatanson666it is satire but I didn’t even know those movies aren’t in the same universe 😂
@sathrielsatanson666
@sathrielsatanson666 5 ай бұрын
@@Thabosefoloshia yeah, trying to make sense of SPUM is a fool's errand 🤣
@marcus7195
@marcus7195 5 ай бұрын
For me I've become so desensitised to promotion because of the endless onslaught of TVspots, ads, 'hot ones' style viral press clips. I just don't care anymore. Even if I'm told when a movie is out, because I'm bombarded constantly online I just don't take any notice of when the actual movie is out. In some cases its even stopped me wanting to see a movie because I'm sick of seeing clips of it online in the marketing
@Guimhj
@Guimhj 5 ай бұрын
The way some "theater lovers" talk about the experience of going to the movies sounds like an experience not worth saving lol
@markanderson7236
@markanderson7236 5 ай бұрын
Yeah, if you're talking about shitty etiquette, then yeah, I'm on board with that.
@TopherJames12
@TopherJames12 5 ай бұрын
I'd also say ads before movies are getting ridiculous. It's not a few trailers, there's just literal commercials before movies start where the actual movie doesn't start until 40+ minutes after the advertised start time. So a 2 or 3 hour movie actually has you in the theater for 3-4 hours instead so going to the movies takes up a huge chunk of your day now.
@P-Weaver-u6g
@P-Weaver-u6g 5 ай бұрын
Every theater needs a designated Alan Richtson
@katen5598
@katen5598 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for talking about how covid is 1 of the reasons people don't go to movie theaters anymore. I know most ppl act as if it's gone or no big deal. But for older ppl or ppl with certain health problems, it's still a big concern. also, YES, so sick of ppl saying YOU HAVE TO GO SUPPORT MOVIE THEATERS, THEY ARE DYING. Trying to make me feel guilty is not gonna help.
@scoople6
@scoople6 5 ай бұрын
I think the best point you brought up is forcing longer waits between theater release and streaming release. At the end of the day this is an issue of convenience. No matter how cushy and luxury a theater experience is it will always be LESS convenient than watching at home. So limiting streaming releases heavily seems like the only viable way to get more people in theaters.
@GRAYMATTER_235
@GRAYMATTER_235 5 ай бұрын
I’ve been done with movie theaters before Covid. They have always been shitty. I would gladly pay 100$ to watch tent pool movies from home. I haven’t seen a movie at the theater in over 2 and a half years. It’s not worth the hassle. Poor service, over priced crap food, and dumb customers not there for the movie but to film themselves on their camera.
@NybergCarl
@NybergCarl 5 ай бұрын
Nando, thank you for doing this video. You approach the situation as a fan of movies. Too often discussion of anything public in US society is tainted by the media amplifying industry shills. (In this case this would be spokespeople for studios and theaters.) You have begun a discussion that centers the audience perspective.
@bipolarewok
@bipolarewok 5 ай бұрын
I agree that is bad for theaters to have the movies on streaming two weeks later, but as someone who doesn't live in the US, and the theaters here have a very small selection of movies (mostly big studio movies), I like that I don't have to wait six months to watch independent movies that don't get a theatrical release here. As someone who likes to talk about movies online, if I get to watch them four, five, six months later, by the time I enter the chat no one's talking about it anymore.
@yash_kapoor
@yash_kapoor 5 ай бұрын
See the thing about the usher idea is that America is stupid they’re gonna put cops in theaters instead (hell they already did for joker)
@MicoDossun
@MicoDossun 5 ай бұрын
As a movie theater manager I can confirm that sucked ass
@Frostbite08
@Frostbite08 5 ай бұрын
They didn't put cops in Joker to be ushers. They did it because of Aurora.
@nancykerrigan
@nancykerrigan 5 ай бұрын
Well given what happened at that one theater when Dark Knight Rises happened, I don't blame them?
@NybergCarl
@NybergCarl 5 ай бұрын
This spring semester I attended 15 of 16 films for the "Climate Fiction" series at the Gene Siskel Film Center. This is a class with two profs and two TAs. There might be 35-55 students who attend regularly, plus members of the public, many of whom attend multiple films in the series. Even with this very "serious about films" group, there was one film where there was a verbal fight that almost went physical. What transpired was in the dark, so I'm not sure how it started, but that was weird. Also, for one of the films, an older guy 50s or 60s with his date was in my row and on his phone during the movie. He was keeping his phone low, so it was less annoying to those behind him. But, being in my row, it was annoying. Having attended various theaters in the Chicago area... the Gene Siskel Film Center was the least likely to be a problem prior to covid. But now, even the Gene Siskel Film Center has problems. So, the social norms have changed and for the worse.
@AndrewPayton-jh9wb
@AndrewPayton-jh9wb 5 ай бұрын
YYAAAAA great video I go to a movie a week and I haven’t had horrible experiences( I’m a big dude and tell people to shut up) you had some wonderful things to say and I would love more people to hear it. I think point number 3 was your best. I was at that abq theater during the shooting that you flashed around minute 12
@Frankoman64
@Frankoman64 5 ай бұрын
In NH and ME we have Smittys and it's a movie theater that's also a bar and grill
@BlckSWANWhtRbbt
@BlckSWANWhtRbbt 5 ай бұрын
I'm also from NH. I can't even remember the last time I went to a regular movie theater that wasn't a Chunky's eat-in theater or the drive-in. It feels chiller! By nature fewer or more spread out audiences.
@pindagreat
@pindagreat 5 ай бұрын
On the subject of movie theaters being expensive, I go to Marcus theaters because they're literally the only theater in town, and they've been jacking up prices and getting rid of ways for their customers to save money. They changed $5 Tuesdays to value Tuesdays, where the base cost of most tickets is $6, and it costs more if it was ultrascreen or superscreen, the theaters with way bigger screens and way more seats. They used to have a similar deal for students and school faculty members on Thursdays. They first added that it can’t be for a movie that just premiered, then cut down the size of the free popcorn, then recently axed the whole thing. Finally theyre getting rid of their movie flex subscription, which was a good deal if you wanted to go to the movies more than once a month
@Tuaron
@Tuaron 5 ай бұрын
Definitely agree on VOD/streaming release window, but I am not sure it will really drive me to theatres. In fact, none of these three are likely to increase my likelihood of going, but I am a special case as it's a big time-consuming trip for me (I might spend twice as much time on the road to and from the theatre than watching it, maybe even a higher ratio if it a shorter film), which also adds expense. I do have less of a tolerance for more crowded places than I used to, and I am not eager to go to a packed theatre, I want some space (no, special theatre seating is not an option at the nearest spot, and the next one is more than twice the distance). That said, I wouldn't hate the other two recommendations.
@BeanDIProductions
@BeanDIProductions 5 ай бұрын
i totally understand where your third point comes from, but i think the nuance of how it effects the industry is often overlooked. so unless you have a back end deal for a movie (which will only be higher echelon actors) an actor doesn't receive any residuals via the initial screening of the film or the exhibition period (in this case as long as it's in theaters actors don't get anything) and with the death of the dvd industry the move to streaming at such a quicker pace is kind of a saving grace for actors who need the residual income. its how most actors qualify for insurance now. so if you delay that, or penalize the putting of it on streaming or vod, you're kind of boning the people that make it. i know it's a catch 22 because they're definitely boned if theaters shut down, but it's just a tough spot all around.
@Monkeyboy1138
@Monkeyboy1138 5 ай бұрын
Here in the UK we have one of the ‘multi-functional’ workers pop into the screen sporadically to check that no one is recording the movie, but they never shush people, chastise people or do anything about the noise people are making, the kids running around or the bright lights from phones. When I watched Mission Impossible - on the weekend it came out, in a screen with 9 other people - there was an older lady reading a Kindle, set to the brightest setting. Watching Elemental there was one kid who ran around and around the screen, screaming from before the trailers started right up until the end of the movie. So, I am 100% up for a cinema bouncer. Whether there’s one permanently in every screen, or one that just floats from screen to screen, just someone who will kick people out when they are disruptive. And, filtration is so important. COVID is still a thing, there are also other viruses and the next covid, but also how often are these cinemas cleaned - I mean properly cleaned - without proper filtration, the bacteria that is growing on every surface is a problem. I am also, fully on board for a 365 day gap between the day of release and a streaming release. Especially with studios taking a lower cut of the takings.
@connkahn
@connkahn 5 ай бұрын
I'd love to go see a movie in the theaters again; unfortunately, the cost is too high these days. It's not the ticket prices but now I have to hire a babysitter if my wife and I want to go out for a movie and that is what makes everything so expensive.
@JoeJoe-lq6bd
@JoeJoe-lq6bd 5 ай бұрын
Furiosa was long and adding in the ads and trailers, it's 3 hours. So you have to plan 4 hours minimum with transportation. Additionally, that means a lot of the showtimes are very odd. At the theater I go to normally, the evening shows were 6 and 9:30. 6 is too early during the week for most people to go after work and a 9:30 movie isn't letting out until after midnight. So I think that's part of the issue for that theater. The Alamo in Chicago is decent but the food isn't great for the quantity and quality. They have a membership program which would be great but it doesn't work for any of the non-first run movies or special engagements, which is a lot of them. When I got my membership, they didn't make it clear just how many films are excluded from the membership. The non-Alamo theaters here are mostly not great experiences. One of the AMCs is okay but the rest of the theaters in Chicago aren't anything special and the Regal near me is reminiscent of one of those half-empty malls that only has a Cinnabon and a jewelry kiosk. I honestly think one thing that has to change is the duration of the time between theatrical release and streaming. There's no motivation for a lot of people to go to the theater when the movie will be on streaming in two months. The other thing is that there really should be more screens devoted to special engagements like old movies, more art house films that might not even make it to streaming, maybe some film experts having the occasional discussion of specific films, etc. Make it a different kind of experience that you can't get at home.
@TriColoredTiger
@TriColoredTiger 5 ай бұрын
💯 agree! This would bring me back to the movies. 🍿
@Jes_LizzyLu
@Jes_LizzyLu 5 ай бұрын
I love our local drive in. It's cheap, I can bring in my own food. I don't have to be in close proximity to other people. If I make noise no one else has to deal with it. Me and a friend saw Batman v Superman and talked through the whole film, no one was annoyed because they couldn't hear us. The only issues are headlights and your car battery so much better.
@Djblois1
@Djblois1 5 ай бұрын
What if Roadhouse 2 is a movie theater bouncer?
@rampagingelephant7353
@rampagingelephant7353 5 ай бұрын
I 100% agree that movie theaters need ushers. When I went to see Across the Spider-Verse last summer there was this group of teenagers who constantly made fart noises the whole time and another person watching the movie had to shush them halfway through, which only kept them quiet until the last 20 minutes when they started doing it again. I remember a few years ago there was an online trend where people would wear suits and ties to see Minions 2 which somehow later on included obnoxiously cheering at the movie like it was Avengers: Endgame or something and there were videos online of movie theater employees scolding the whole room and sometimes kicking everyone out even if they weren't causing problems. That was the last time in recent memory that I've heard of movie theaters cracking down on people being disruptive during a movie, and it was because it was an internet trend. All you need is one person in the back of the room to look for phone screens and listen for people making noises outside of natural reactions to what's happening on the screen like screams or laughs. All it takes is for one jerk who isn't following the rules to ruin the entire experience for everybody.
@markanderson7236
@markanderson7236 5 ай бұрын
Well said. It just takes one person to ruin it for everyone. Literally anyone could be that guy. Smh.
@BitRobot
@BitRobot 5 ай бұрын
I think the idea of advertizing when the movie comes out on cinema vs when it comes out on streaming and having a big gap there is a good idea. I would hate it but it would probably work to some extent. But there are other issues to this. We don't respect art in general. If we look at great art and great artists through history they were mysterious and cool. We respected art and the artists. Why? Artists aren't respected within their own industry. Now art is created to please the audience. "Do you like this?" "Will this please you". They put the audience above the art. This makes the product bland because the audience don't know what we want. We think we do. We have an idea of what we want but that will not change us or make us grow. We have now learned that art is supposed to please us like hotel personel pleases us during our stay. The greatest artists and the greatest art through history is the artist speaking their own language. Freely creating from their heart. Relentlessly speaking their own language. This makes us grow since it is new to us. It is mysterious because it's new to us and we start respecting it since it is new and pure. Uncompromizing and uncensoured. Celebrities today is sitting on podcasts and opens up and show their humanity. "I'm just a person trying to please the audience". Imagine Stanley Kubric, Jimi Hendrix, Daniel Day Louis doing that. Would you respect them and their art more. No you would loose the mystery and judge their art on how much it pleases your current mind. We get nit picky. We make the demands on upcoming products. Who are we to make demands? It's all backwards. We should feel privelidged to get to enjoy someones vision. The artist is supposed to open up through their art. Not in a podcast sofa beforehand. If we want to enter and see their vision and their world we have to go to the movies. This was a rant but there is so many factors to this. corporate influence, accessibility, value, mystery. We're creating an art-world that is easily replaced by AI instead of something that is irreplacable. True art. True because it is human. When artists stop giving a shit about what I want I will go to the movies.
@martlind
@martlind 5 ай бұрын
This makes so much sense, spot on!
@mschmitt225
@mschmitt225 5 ай бұрын
Maybe short intermissions for some of the longer movies like Oppenheimer could help. That why people aren’t spending the last 30 minutes trying to hold it in
@neonswift
@neonswift 5 ай бұрын
Furiosa failing isn't as much of a surprised as most people act like it is. It was a sequel to a well received movie but one that didn't make a lot of money. As has been said before, Black Adam did better in the cinema than Fury Road did, despite the praise Fury Road got. It was a prequel, it was a movie about a character that wasn't Mad Max, and was acted by a different actors. Hemsworth and Joy, while loved, are not inherently big draws to the cinema. I don't think that movie is in anyway indicatie of whats happening to cinemas. Yes they aren't doing well but its due to cost, movie goers tired of more of the same (in some but not all cases), and its streaming having removed both a drive to get out to cinemas but also made it feel less valuuable as you can just see it on your sofa in 3 months.
@heroicgangster9981
@heroicgangster9981 5 ай бұрын
I know I'm going to Venom The Last Dance. Though I got to admit the prices for theater food is rough if you don't have a discount. And standard prices for tickets is not something I can pay for without saving up for the occasion. Theaters are an occasion, not something I can casually go to when I feel like it once per week anymore.
@doemaaan
@doemaaan 5 ай бұрын
Great ideas actually. Thankfully, my local Regal had an entire makeover months after the initial covid wave. They reopened with “better air filtration”, those fancy new theaters with the projectors on each side, 4DX and an IMAX room. The RPX room returned, but EVERY room now had new comfortable seating. They also added a bar! All of it seemed great and I had a blast visiting with my Regal pass… but… after last year, something happened. I think I started to realize that most of the movies I went to were just average? Comic book / Action movies are one guilty pleasure of mine, but rarely did I walk out of ankther showing feeling content, like say I would after an MCU movie. It was just… barely serviceable. So, I cancelled my pass and haven’t looked back. Doesn’t help that both MCU and DC are on a break right now. Something that I think we all needed, BUT let me say this here and now. I am Totally ready for next year because it’s hella packed with blockbusters and I’m definitely ready to hop back on the pass.
@BDWANNEMACHER
@BDWANNEMACHER 5 ай бұрын
Went to go see a movie with the fam and after doing self checkout kiosk (all there was) and seeing bad seating left and the seeing $80 before snacks, and watching a crew of rowdy kids pop in we just turned around and left. Got ice cream and got a VoD movie at home.
@HasturBeta
@HasturBeta 5 ай бұрын
I'd like to make a small suggestion to add to your plan to save theaters. I feel like if theaters are going to survive then the business model has to become a little more dynamic. Yes films will bring in a majority of revenue, but if you expanded to other fun, unique group events/experiences that would go hard with access to a huge theater screen. Imagine on a wed/thur nights you set aside 2-4 blocks of 1-hr theater time to host a 24-player game of Halo infinite on the big screen with it divided up into sections like 4 player Goldeneye back in the day. Not a competition, not a tournament, just playing for fun for fun sake like we all used to as kids. I wonder if you could even do a 20+ player version of mario kart on the big screen, that'd go hard. But yeah, I know I'd spend $20 to do that. Bonus point is it'd draw attention back to the business and create a buzz around it. Sure they might only go for that game night for a few weeks, but then when the itch to see a movie in theaters hits them your spot is going to be the first place they think of now.
@willtheboredguy3556
@willtheboredguy3556 5 ай бұрын
As someone who has worked in a movie theater recently, I agree with everything you have said, especially the bouncers. One time a person brought a sword to a Demon Slayer showing. A sword. I have personally been threatened before by people while I was working by a patron.
@TheLegendaryMovieCritic
@TheLegendaryMovieCritic 5 ай бұрын
My movie theater has security on weekends or opening night of blockbusters! I feel safe & secure!
@masenguerra7835
@masenguerra7835 5 ай бұрын
I go at weird times to movies at my old theatre when its just me and my friends, we just crack jokes when its like that but stay quiet when there are others. When I went to watch the Fnaf movie I got real annoyed about how many kids were just recording the movie and leaving their flash on. Aside from that though movie have been pretty fun to go see still. An usher would be nice though.
@letsgoooo9200
@letsgoooo9200 5 ай бұрын
The worst thing I ever did was watch into the spiderverse at the same time as annoying teenagers
@NybergCarl
@NybergCarl 5 ай бұрын
Attendance at all venues that have people show up (like live stage performances and political events) is down since the covid restrictions were lifted. So, declining movie attendance should be seen in the context of: 1. Attendance is down for everything 2. Streaming services are a problem 3. Advertising is tougher now 4. The trend was against movies pre-covid, so there was a vulnerability. (I haven't checked this last one, but I suspect that a deeper analysis will show that people were getting away from movies as entertainment for reasons not fully understood.)
@mdstevens0612
@mdstevens0612 5 ай бұрын
My movie going experiences in the last few years have been awful. There is *always* someone kicking my chair, I've been double booked before, we've had our seats occupied and had to argue with others to get to their own, people taking selfies with the flash on in a dark theatre, people yelling stuff at the characters on screen... Ushers. I am with you there. Cinemas could use ushers.
@DMacB42
@DMacB42 5 ай бұрын
I was at The Last Voyage of the Demeter and some guy was sitting behind me, eating a goddamn bag of Ruffles. Like, dude. I get that concessions are expensive. We all smuggle stuff in. But potato chips?? And then you sit there and play with the bag in your hands for the whole third act? WHAT??
@elketerbentzadik
@elketerbentzadik 5 ай бұрын
My local theatre sells chips at the concession stand.
@brandononbrand
@brandononbrand 5 ай бұрын
Shame on any theater that sells noisy food (aside from popcorn). And, it’s 2024. You’d think someone would have invented “quiet packaging” by now.
@elketerbentzadik
@elketerbentzadik 5 ай бұрын
@brandononbrand Most theatres have tiered stadium seating and luxury loungers now so you're not really close enough to other people for their packaging to be disruptive.
@brandononbrand
@brandononbrand 5 ай бұрын
@@elketerbentzadik YMMV, but I see at least one movie a week. Most theaters have stadium seating, but not spaced-out luxury loungers… if the movie is packed or if anyone is in your vicinity, you definitely hear the packaging… feels like it echoes… Of course, it’s worse with a quieter movie… you may not notice it so much during Bad Boys 4 lol
@Akiragirl15b
@Akiragirl15b 4 ай бұрын
@@brandononbrand My movie theater also sells potato chips (and I personally prefer them over popcorn), but I always ask for an extra popcorn bag and fill them in, so there is no noise because of the chips packaging. It works quite well.
@BeansKneez
@BeansKneez 5 ай бұрын
talking during movies, omg. i went to extended fellowship of the ring on Saturday and there were these teens maintaining a whispered conversation the entire time. three and a half hours. also to your point about not getting into it with someone who would take a bite of your big mac, some dude started playing something on speaker phone during fall guy last month and i just moved to another part of the room because yeah. the kind of guy who would violate the social contract like that is not someone who would react well to being confronted. also air filters yessssssss. the immediate release on vod didn't really bother me until dune 2 because i was willing to see that one in real imax and they just left my money on the table.
@philgodin6493
@philgodin6493 5 ай бұрын
Im not rich by western standards, but I have a large couch in a private space and my TV screen is large and nice. Not quite state of the art. But it's nice enough compared to the big screen in a theater. I can eat my own food and drink and smoke what I want to. The theaters in my city have moved to inaccessible areas. It's more convenient and comfortable to watch from home.
@Stinger_420_69
@Stinger_420_69 5 ай бұрын
Biggest issue I have with my local theater is A.) the classic movie theater menu is horrible and expensive… I think this could be better mitigated by simply buying out a place like Sonic or something to use that’s quick,easy,and scratches that snack food want from most consumers B.) people around me ruining the movie with their inconsiderate acts. This honestly is solvable by bringing back a modernized drive in theater… (think like top golf but for movies) cause chances are if you’re going with a group or family they’re gonna respect your time/money you are using/paying to see the movie and you’ll know exactly the company whose with you.
@volumosity2167
@volumosity2167 5 ай бұрын
Having worked as a movie theater bouncer, I agree with all of these things! 👍
@starwish1037
@starwish1037 5 ай бұрын
i live in texas and im so blessed to have a santikos/casa blanca theater near me. The best theater and I love going to the movies.
@DaileyDoseOfJoseph
@DaileyDoseOfJoseph 5 ай бұрын
The beginning of my movie theater downfall was Dragon Ball Z Resurrection 'F' where a group of teens or 20somethin's were yelling the theme song, and then yellling "kamehameha" along with Goku. My social security checks grew three sizes that day. (I was also 19 myself but I was not there for them)
@rmsgrey
@rmsgrey 5 ай бұрын
One thing people can do is to tell cinema staff about bad experiences - not complaining at the overworked person manning the front desk, but asking them to pass on the fact there was a problem - just so that there's a record and something that a branch manager can use as an argument for why corporate needs to spend some money to make money...
@brandononbrand
@brandononbrand 5 ай бұрын
When and where do you do that?… Most of the time when I have a bad experience to report, no one is at the front desk. The few times they are, they don’t listen, don’t log, and just issue a useless free pass. YMMV, but that’s my experience trying to escalate these issues up the chain.
@rmsgrey
@rmsgrey 5 ай бұрын
@@brandononbrand I'm in the UK, and reasonably familiar with the staff at my local cinema, so my experience may not generalise. You do need to have someone who's interested in pushing for some sort of change in order to get anywhere.
@blueegg4198
@blueegg4198 5 ай бұрын
During a showing of Porco Rosso last year a guy literally took a phone call in the middle of the movie. He didn't step out, just sat right there in his seat chatting away shamelessly. That kind of behavior should get you taken out back by bouncers. High quality air filtration would be great too.
@jesselferguson
@jesselferguson 5 ай бұрын
I wonder if, rather than paying a fine, theater chains can work into their contracts that once a movie goes to VOD, the theaters get to keep all (or most) of the money from ticket sales. That might incentivize studios to hold off a while, and also might encourage theaters to keep them in theaters for longer anyway.
@Smileyfaceproductionz
@Smileyfaceproductionz 5 ай бұрын
This makes feel so blessed to have a local independent theater with only a few people in each viewing. Im also lucly that my local theater is next to a retirement home so, the viewing rooms are at least alway half elderly people.
@andscifi
@andscifi 5 ай бұрын
I recently went to alamo and it was specifically for people who might need to talk or get up. There were less restrictions on talking and the lights were a bit higher. It was still fairly quiet, but I think that's a better option than having quiet movies because instead of implying that it's Ok to talk in all the others it reinforces that it isn't.
@DylanofScreenTime
@DylanofScreenTime 5 ай бұрын
I actually work at Regal and I wanna say a couple things: 1. Thank you for the appreciation for people who work at theatres. A lot of my co-workers are genuinely cool people and they can only have a bad attitude because of the work conditions, like shitty costumers or minimal pay. I do think if we were to incorporate these three things, we'd overall be much happier lol. 2. The air filter thing I %1,000,000 agree is a problem. Sometimes, when I go in to clean a theatre, it smells awful and the team leads have said it's because "Some people just don't shower" and while I think (unfortunately) that can be true, there's gotta be a better way we can handle this, better air filters would be so beneficial. 3. I usually work as an Usher and as of now, my theatre has 14 auditoriums and two ushers MAX, but usually just one (cuz that's all they can afford I suppose), so we are tasked to do hourly checks on each theatre, just making sure no one's causing trouble or have their phones on, etc. Confrontation's tough cuz A: I'm not that physically imposing and B: I'm like you were I wanna give people a chance to realize what they're doing, like whenever they check their phones (that's the worst bit). As of right now, we have one security guy who does the same theatre checks we do, so yeah, Bouncers/more Ushers would be great. As for the last thing, I think that'd be amazing! Like you said, it is tricky and (this is just me thinking) it feels like we need THAT to work in order for everything else to fall into place. IDK if it's the same experience in other theatres, but I can TELL when they're cutting costs, especially when we run low on trash bags, or have to cut someone's hours cuz they just can't afford it. Maybe it's just my theatre and it's not nearly as bad as everywhere else, but if we wanna make these conditions better, I feel like keeping the movies for a longer period of time has to be the first one to work.
@AlexLoveLizard
@AlexLoveLizard 5 ай бұрын
We also need intermissions/intervals. Let people take a piss break during a 2.5 hour movie. Take a moment to sell merch and food /drink. Its a win for the audience and the theatre. Everyone I know wants this. I dont get why they dont do it.
@standardchampion
@standardchampion 5 ай бұрын
Agree pretty much on all points. I think there should be consideration for developing a new classification system akin to the mpaa rating system where movies will get a designation to which theaters will show that move only in theaters used for that designation. This way, when you pay for a ticket, you are also entering a contract where you understand the potential theater experience may be had and the theater agrees to enforce its own rules on your behalf. Example: the latest Kevin Hart led comedy is out. It is given its theater experience designation (A), for 'all experiences welcome'. Meaning the audience is permitted to be on their phones, talk, whatever. Whereas the latest Nolan film opening week? That would be given a theater experience designation of (B), for 'no phone or smartwatch use, no talking, etc' during the film. Add whatever other factors and designations are needed to round out the system. This defines expectations for everyone buying tickets. Also an usher is present to enforce whatever rules the currently showing film falls under. A given the mpaa rating system seems to barely have any purpose these days, should it go extinct, this new 'theater experience' system could simply fill the void. Its a rough idea that needs refining but I think this can serve as a large part of the infrastructure needed for changes that everyone would be happier with.
@Jabersson
@Jabersson 5 ай бұрын
Former theater worker here. Companies cut costs as much as possible to survive. It's not feasible to have dedicated ushers when you can have cheap 16yos that do multipurpose jobs (working booth, cash, garbage) just pop in every now and then. They made us do random theater checks, which did help a lot with noise and phones, but some people are smart and just turn it off as soon as some poor irritated person goes to get one of us. The biggest problem to focus on is definitely the VOD issue.
@MrSelleck
@MrSelleck 5 ай бұрын
I never post in comments but feel compelled to here. Nobody ever talks about how bad the Cinema experience has gotten. I used to love seeing movies but now I hate it. I find I go expecting an argument. I genuinely can’t remember the last time I went to the cinema without it being ruined somehow. I knew I couldn’t be the only one 😅 I really hope things change because I’d hate to see them die out. Excellent video man! You got yourself a new subscriber!
@switz
@switz 5 ай бұрын
Re: VOD Release Pitches They need to pitch it to studios like a mutuality beneficial investment. Studios essentially get to double down on collasal releases. Ghost Deadpool & Wolverine from release until December, watch the box office shoot up, and watch the subscription and watch rate spike in December.
@MrBaskins2010
@MrBaskins2010 5 ай бұрын
that mattel spinoff sarcasm tangent at 2:04 is nando finally realizing somebody in hollywood is watching his video. nando is testing to see if their AI video summary generator can understand nuance. well played
@lordofninjas1
@lordofninjas1 5 ай бұрын
I'll start off by saying that I'm someone who would love to be at a movie theater every week or every other week or so (there's usually always something coming out that I'd like to see), however with the price of everything being what it is and increasing (especially here in California) I'm unable to afford to go but maybe once or twice a year or so, at least when I'm the one paying for it. Even if me affording it wasn't the issue, the nearest person I know that would be interested in going to see most if not all of what I want to see with me lives at least 45 minutes to an hour away in good traffic. I bring this up because I do think the cost of going to see a movie is a pretty big factor as to why many aren't going to movie theaters nowadays and why most would rather wait for it to show up on streaming, as well as the others you bring up in the video. Anyways, I generally agree with your ideas on what theaters should do to be able to survive. I do think ushers would be useful, if not for patrolling the various auditoriums at the very least checking peoples bags and such, mainly for security reasons like someone bringing in some kind of weapon or something. I would also say that's probably a reason why people don't go to theaters, with violence and such becoming more and more prevalent especially in public transportation and the like, they probably don't feel safe being stuck in a room for at least an hour and a half with a bunch of strangers, so giving them some peace of mind that no one brought in a weapon or whatever could help. Maybe it could even be someone there that basically collects phones at the door of the auditorium and gives them back at the end of the movie or whatever, that's probably overkill and would be an issue in an emergency situation and such (that's the only reason I pull my phone out during a movie and keep it on vibrate instead of silencing it completely, in case there's an emergency with a family member or whatever), but that may also be what it takes for some people to not talk or use phones during the movie. Upgraded air filters is a good idea. I've never really experienced a movie theater with "bad air" myself, but I can definitely understand it being for reasons like covid and stuff like that, and it probably would bring some back. I do think an agreement for streaming/VOD between the studios and the theaters would be an excellent idea. Many studios did the day-and-date release model for their films during the pandemic which seems to have caused a lot of the issue. Currently, aside from the movies that do really bad that release on streaming like days or weeks after their theatrical release, I think the current model is something like 45-90 day theatrical window before something lands on streaming or VOD. I agree that that could be upped a bit. I think 6 months (180ish days) might be a bit overkill for most movies though could work as a cap for it, but I do think an agreement of at minimum a 90 day (3 month) theatrical window for all movies no matter what between the studios and theaters would be what would probably be worked out, so if a movie releases in theaters in lets say January you shouldn't expect it on streaming or VOD until at least April or May at the earliest and like July or August at the latest with it being a 90-180 day possible theatrical window. the time frame would be able to be extended from the 90 day baseline based on the success of the movie, so if the movie is at the level of something like Morbius or Madame Web it is still guaranteed 90 days, but if it's something at the level of say Endgame or Barbenheimer that 180 day theatrical run would be where it's at, and if it's something that is sort of in the middle like it made some money but wasn't a smash hit maybe something in the middle like 135 days (4 1/2 months) or so. I don't recall if you've made a video about it or not, but do you think something like intermissions in movies would help with this sort of thing? I've heard discourse around it and personally I'm indifferent towards it, but perhaps it could give people who use their phones for non-pirating purposes during movies the opportunity to get that done with and talk and stuff like that.
@tenzinlazerson6794
@tenzinlazerson6794 5 ай бұрын
I went to see Boy and the Heron in Japan and I gotta say the audience sooo much better than theaters here, everyone was so respectful and quiet. They all stayed through the entire credits silent! So I wonder if it’s just American audiences
@iarej0e
@iarej0e 5 ай бұрын
AMC Starplex in Northern NJ easily best bang for your buck in the area. Comfy seats, cheaper tix and snax than most
@kemerydunn9532
@kemerydunn9532 5 ай бұрын
I kid you not, when I went to see A Quiet Place, there was a guy in front of us take pictures and video on his phone, talking to himself about what was happening like an 80 year old grandpa trying to figure out whats happening, and explaining to everyone him why he was taking pictures/video (his sister is too scared to see it, he wants to prove it'll be okay). Like you said, reacting to a horror movie is fine. But this was the COMPLETELY SILENT beginning, no horror yet. It was insane. (My cousin got a worker because they'd actually do something with him taking pictures, who he explained why again, again during a totally silent part, and she threatened to take him out if he didn't stop. It was insane) I also think that the lounger chairs should lock before the movie starts. There can be a little message saying to get into position, because when I went to see Dune, I decided to swear off the luxury lounger theaters because after the first 30 min or so, there was the little motor sound of someone adjusting their chair or completely putting it up/down because of leaving for more snacks/bathroom and coming back probably every 3-5 minutes. I thought I was gonna lose my mind. Like we're at the end, super intense fight when Paul has been stabbed and you can't wait 2 minutes for action to pick back up before moving your chair?! You have to move it NOW?!
@RronKarahoda
@RronKarahoda 5 ай бұрын
Ths biggest challenges for the quiet room are whether it comes with a price difference and the balance of quiet vs loud rooms - If you charge loud rooms more, people won't go and if you charge quiet rooms more you're kind of penalizing the movie people. I feel like you make the times that are the most convenient for families loud theatres, and the rest are quiet by default. (In fact we shouldn't advertise quiet theatres but instead advertise loud theatres with a fun name, after all they are technically the break in tradition). Keep the price the same, try to make premiers an even split or whichever fits your community better if you can't. Done!
@sevan.
@sevan. 5 ай бұрын
When I saw Infinity War there was a guy sitting a few rows ahead of me, packed theater, who was obviously drunk and began loudly commenting the SECOND that the movie started. I shouted "hey could you not talk during the movie" and thank god he shut up (in fact I think he left). But that interaction made me WIDLY anxious like yeah I don't know how this guy is going to react, but this is maybe the biggest movie of my lifetime and I don't want it to be ruined. When I saw Wakanda Forever there were a group of people, sober but just talking obnoxiously loudly behind me. I politely asked them to be quiet, and they just kept talking. So I left. Management was great, comped my ticket AND gave me a free ticket for a later show, but shit like that makes me dread going to the theater. I shouldn't have to go spend money just to wonder if I'm gonna get into a fight or worry that my time out is going to be ruined. If theaters started being more vigilant with disruptive guests I would be 100% more likely to attend.
@niallobrien6130
@niallobrien6130 5 ай бұрын
I had to scold a group of teenagers during a screening of Madame Web... they moved to the front row (the premium reclining seats) once the movie started and it was obvious no one was going to stop them so they were in everyone's eyeline. I didn't mind that so much but they all took out their phones two minutes in (maybe they were googling 'spider research amazon') and when they learned all they could of that they decided to take selfies to mark the special memory of seeing a strong female led superhero film, surely the first in a series of many outings featuring Cassie, Anya, Julia and Mattie. This led me to shout from my seat 'put the phones away'. Which they did. But then overcome by the excitement of the layered storytelling soon one of them proceeded to take their phone out and shine their phone torch at the screen in a show of approval for the films nuanced characterisation. Which initiated my second, louder, ''put the phone away.' In retrospect it wasn't really any detriment to my enjoyment of the movie, and I don't like raising my voice in the cinema, so if anyone reading this was at that screening, I apologise.
@matthewburton6360
@matthewburton6360 5 ай бұрын
To expand on price issues or rather wage issues. I think since the average cost for the movies is somewhere between 15-40 dollars (including concessions) I think more people are truly hesitant to see a new movie. Staples like Marvel have lost their standard and new IP can be hard to draw folks in. I saw Fall Guy and Furiosa (always matinee) maybe 20 folks showed up to each movie. This past weekend Regal was showing the LOTR movies 3 days in a row, one each day. And it was packed everyday. They added showings bc it sold so much. When it comes to spending money I think folks are much more picky and if it’s gonna be on Max in 2 weeks might as well wait and watch a movie that could be bad for “free”. I’m also very okay with rescreening movies I think having a theater experience for older movies is great. I adored the LOTR trilogy and being too young when they came out I had an amazing time this past weekend. I’d love to see the OG Star Wars trilogy on the big screen too.
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