Here's the Thing About 3D Scanners... | 3DMakerpro Seal vs. Creality CR-Scan Ferret

[@ralfmimoun2826]

I just scanned a 80x30x10mm small part with the Crealty Ferret. It needed some work and equipment: motorized turntable für about 15$, a simple stand I printed out, and dry shampoo because the scanned part is pitch black. The scanned did not get every single detail, but enough to build a quite perfect match. I am stunned how exact the size is. And it's also impressive that the "kids software" TinkerCAD I am using can handle such an amount of triangles.

[@senseisecurityschool9337]

A review that tells you which use-case each product is a good fit for is SO much better than the "this product is the best" videos! Awesome work.

[@jmone3559]

Some of the phone scanners have come a long way as well. Polycam is worth a look (but it is subscription). I've done both full head and smaller models it works surprisingly well.

[@rzjzimmers]

Thanks for the comparison! This isn't really a review but an explanation of something to consider when buying a scanner. I have a ferret and it definitely does not work for my small projects, but that's not what it was made for.

[@PaulsGarage]

Glad it was helpful! It surprised me how different they performed. Both good for their purpose, but there is almost no overlap

[@everythingcool101]

this is how you make videos! well put together, easy to understand well done and keep it up!

[@svrwthr]

I wouldn't have even known you are out of my, our, town, until I recognized the stone arch and searched you. Now I have to finish up your video because I am looking at both of these, or adding another printer so I can prototype on one and final print on the other.

[@byronwilliams6532]

I have 3 3D scanners both Revopoint Ranges and the CR Ferret. I mostly scan medium to large objects. I bought the Cr Ferret because it was built up and advertised as the do it all dual mode scanner. The Good the Bad the Ugly. The good: It can scan dark objects with no scanning spray. It is very forgiving when it loses tracing. When tracking is re established, you wont have extra scan or overlapping scans of the same part. The bad it can only scan medium size objects with quality results. If you leave the on small or medium it will stay a high quality mode. It you elect to scan larger objects the option will switch to fast lower quality mode. You can tinker a try to scan large with high quality but it doesn’t always work. The bad. It can’t scan small objects as advertised. I’ve try scan spray and markers with little no no success. If you want to go with mobile scanning their is a wi fi bridge available, but not when I purchased the original unit. You have to use a specific Android phone not all phones will work. Creality may have Apple software now. Even is you do mobile scanning, it’s next to impossible to export from phone to computer to edit or use for STL,OBJ or to programs such as Blender. If you use this scanner with a desk or laptop, you will have to have a usb 3 to get quality scans. So in short, the bad out weighs the good.

[@markmalonson7531]

Cross section scanners are needed for full scanning ability surface and cross section. They have them that use x rays (radioactive careful) MR-I and ultrasound. Surface scans are a fraction of the capability for the systems.

[@Lamprolign]

Thank you for taking the time and effort to make these videos.

[@PaulsGarage]

My pleasure!

[@GeorgeWashingtonLaserMusket]

If you're having issues with hair, you can throw some bleached flour into your hair, the white powder will add more contrast and help, likewise with scanning in general, a little white powder, or sometimes certain scanners make you use white dot stickers. I've got a printer, want a scanner, waiting for them to get good enough for cheap enough, I just don't have $15k to spend on a car body part scanner.

[@LearnEverythingAboutDesign]

Nice video Paul! I will say that with the Ferret I have noticed scans and tracking end up a bit better when using RGB color capture. So even on the wood figure or the 928 you could give that a shot. You don't have to export the model with color but when you are scanning bigger things with it and having tracking issues try tossing the color on. Also some little bits of painters tape help with the tracking.

[@PaulsGarage]

Thanks for the tips! I was turning color tracking off hoping it would free up some processing power but maybe that was a mistake

[@aerialsolutionsofwyomingdr5355]

Awesome video!!! Very informative on the abilities of both scanners.

[@GHOOGLEMALE]

Great review - I'm looking to buy the Ferret, but now not so sure as I wanted to use it for small parts mainly. Either way, really great review - love the presentation too

[@Eucadiz]

Just a tip, I found myself in the situation of need/want a 3d Scanner, and even paid for an "Early release" that never did (thankfully no money was lost). But then found the greatest solution of them all... Photogrametry, I used RealityCapture, and found that I get all the detail that I want for any size of models (cars, toys, heck if you have a drone, or a huge pole with a camera attached, you could scan your whole block if you want). And they charge for the amount of data to process, so its a couple dollars a scan, and it even captures textures all in one go so no "lost track of the object", model too big for tiny processor to handle, my resolution is crap because so are my cameras, you need to coat them in $60 dollar spray otherwise ill get ansiety... Needless to say I will never need a scanner.

[@PaulsGarage]

I've tried meshroom which works pretty good, but I don't like how it also captures the room and doesn't preserve scale. These scans come out to scale in blender which is nice. I agree though photogrammetry is awesome and definitely has it's uses. Especially huge areas like you said

[@Eucadiz]

@@PaulsGarage Thats true, it doesnt recognize if is a meter or a mm by itself, but hear me out this one lets you print some markers (i've placed 21 and it was overkill) that you can measure with a vernier, and it can be able to identify these markers (they are numbered and all), and you can define their measured distance for having really close scale, I wont say the scanner marketing BS of 0.001 mm accuracy. But it is accurate enough to capture the actual paper depth of the markers and thats good enough for me. I really sound like PR of that thing but would love that more people get to their objectives without breaking the bank. I am no youtuber so wouldnt want to invest more than these messages of time. But maybe this could inspire you to revisit the photogrametry solution.

[@PaulsGarage]

@@Eucadiz good idea on the markers. I was just putting a tape measure on the table and using that as reference. It's pretty close. Not as good as the scanners but youre right the scanners certainly don't get 0.01mm close like they claim. Maybe 0.5mm I'd guess.

[@Eucadiz]

@@PaulsGarage I also tried the funny dance of "trying to have my measuring tape straight for 2 meters by myself". Markers dont need to be that far away and accept through the object measurements, thats why I recommend the callipers. 0.5 is more than enough for most but if im paying 1k I expect that at least the workflow is simple and precise (or at least one of these)

[@Kruglord]

AMA about photogrammetry and the trade-offs and advantages compared to triangulation based scanning

[@erickjoers8490]

Cual me recomiendas, el 3Dmakerpro seal o el recopointoni 2

[@paulojose1931]

Também tenho essa dúvida

[@PaulsGarage]

3D Scanners used in this video: 3DMakerpro Seal: shareasale.com/r.cfm?b=2442008&u=3680878&m=139161&urllink=&afftrack= Creality CR-Scan Ferret: shrsl.com/4aj97 Want me to personally teach you how to use your 3D printer to learn sand casting? Click here: paulsmakeracademy.mykajabi.com/

[@aponleadz7718]

How about the body, hand and leg scan?

[@Kruglord]

Hey! Very good summary, it was both concise and clear!

[@PaulsGarage]

Glad it was helpful!

[@GHOOGLEMALE]

Haha - "even picks up the soul-less stare" followed by your moosh - Killed me

[@ausfoodgarden]

Have you had a chance to try the CR-Scan Otter? It seems to do a better job than the Ferret. (I've only tried these 2 and for just a couple of hours each) It would be great to get a good comparison of them. Cheers!

[@HawkWorley]

I need a new dress form, and turning that into a mannequin would be interesting. I may have to look into this. Thank you.

[@wardogdauwdd3020]

So seal for action figures and smaller a farret for books and bigger this is vary helpful for me wanting to make my own toys

[@nathanfox07]

I'm trying to scan my 7 inch figures so which one would you recommend

[@p0intdk]

Would or could the Ferret "PRO" be the fix so to speak to have something that also can do close up or small scans, and big scans?

[@PaulsGarage]

I think the main thing about the ferret "pro" is the Bluetooth module. I don't think the scanner hardware itself is difference but it could be

[@p0intdk]

@@PaulsGarage Looking at the specs again you are properly right, the advertisement almost makes it sound like its "Better"

[@capthowdy126]

i realy need to pick up a 3d scanner, ive tried using the apps wtih my iphone an sometimes it works an does good and then theres other times when it will scan it but doesn't come out with all the correct dimensions or part of the model will be completely wrong, i think its mostly due to the surface of what im scanning having glossy spots an those it struggles with, ive tried photo scanning an lidar an its about the same result for both, sometimes it works well enough that i can use it for a reference to make my model i need but ive never got anything that was close or clean enough that i could use the actual scanned model, i usually have to use it to make the model myself an just use it to help get the correct shapes when they are required but id love to find a scanner that i could use to scan small stuff down to the size of a bic lighter or something like that an up to as big as maye a motorcycle helmet or something close to that in size, but the last time i looked into them the ones that looked like they did a decent job at the scanning was right at a grand an anything that was cheaper just didnt look like they was able to do what they claimed from what little research i did when looking at them but its been a few years now since ive gotten a new printer or looked into the scanners so i recently picked up a bambu lab p1s combo with the ams an its completely changed how i go about 3d printing now an it think its time i spend a little on a decent scanner, but at the same time i dont want to spend to much, maybe 300 to 500 but thats only if the scanners can actually give me something i can work with an good enough that i could print the scan if i wanted to with a small amount of clean up to the model but so far ive not seen anything that does that for me thats not over a grand so hopefully it gotten cheaper in the past 3 yrs an these scanner im finding right now for 280 to 350 for the creality one an the seal looks like id does decent but ive not looked into any of them anymore than browsing them in stores so its time to dig in a bit an see what all i can find.

[@andyspoo2]

Someone needs to make a scanner there you can move one of the lenses either closer or further away from the centre.

[@espenschjelderup426]

300mm is about 1 foot. As an European having several American cars I have learned to convert some of the most used measurments. But I still get confused by some of the weirder units😂

[@TokyoChopSquad]

We're tired of our stupid units of measurements too...

[@espenschjelderup426]

@@TokyoChopSquad 😂 One of the weird ones I kind of like is firlong. But I don't remember how long a firlong is 😂 I think you divide firlongs by chains🤔

[@truetech4158]

@@espenschjelderup426 What about the foot? Feet are not exactly a most proper way of measuring, due to the fact that feet are not the same and could and generally would result in inaccuracies, such as the weight of a stone and saying that stone weighed the weight of stone.

[@arloames4517]

Best unit yet is a farsee. That's how far you can see. "To get to the Jones farm go 3 farsees down the road, turn right, then go 2 more farsees." It's actually a very useful unit if you live in places where vision can be obscured, such as in a forest. Furlong is a furrow long. The distance you plow before turning the plow around to plow the next furrow. Units are such fun. You just need to know where they came from to know where they might be useful.

[@andyspoo2]

Have you any mobile phone app scan review?

[@wgalloPT]

I have a few questions and maybe you could help. I want to buy a scanner, and my use would be to scan people body parts, hands, feet, trunk, maybe upper body. I am currently trying eyeballing the 3d makerpro mole and moose series and I wonder how come the mole is so much more expensive than the moose series...? For my intended use do you think they could work?

[@layneyost7393]

Wondering if the Seal is Mac compatible. The Makerpro site says it is, but the JM Studio app is nowhere to be found on the Apple App store. Any insights?

[@VeeScaliaDesigns]

Great vid thank you!

[@cb175s]

Grest video Thank you for sharing Imvery interested in purchasing a 3D scanner snd have been wondering what some differences are amongst the under $1k scanner's. This gives me s good start inthe right direction. 👍👍

[@PaulsGarage]

Glad it was helpful!

[@madengineer9072]

Same for me actually. This was very useful especially as I do a lot of car badge and small part replicas.

[@PaulsGarage]

If they are shiny you might want some of that 3D scanner spray. It looks like matte paint but it sublimates away

[@AnivaleShop]

Hello. Ferret, POP3 or Mole? What do you think have more detail and Accuracy. Thank you so much for the video.

[@PaulsGarage]

I don't have experience with the pop3 or mole, but I would see what range of sizes the manufacturers suggest. Everything I've ever scanned with these or with photogrammatry has needed cleaning up after. None of the methods get a perfect representation, but getting the right scanner for the right sized object matters a lot.

[@brandonfrancey5592]

Can you stop showing these scanners? If you keep it up, I'm going to end up buying one one and I really don't need it.

[@PaulsGarage]

Do it! Only downside I've found is now I have to stare at my own head on a computer screen 😦

[@brandonfrancey5592]

@@PaulsGarage Ugh... I'm gona end up scanning my wife. Wana trade wives? Maybe make some sort of wife action figure set. I told you I didn't need a scanner and that is how I get into trouble.

[@PaulsGarage]

@brandonfrancey5592 I never thought of an action figure! To be fair I didn't get all her legs/arms/head as they aren't needed for a dress form. If you do, and learn rigging in blender, you could probably animate her! That would probably get me into more trouble...

[@badermeinhof123]

I scanned the head of my kids and put it on an action figure body. Was a blast 👍

[@Cherokeeseeker]

Dress form! I hadn’t thought of that. Dress form mannequins are really expensive

[@jamesray9009]

I wish I knew the seal would scan a pc case i'm trying to get into cad .. this video makes me hopeful but its a pretty big case :/

[@KetansaCreatesArt]

1) Does the app sends all location data, camera permission, phonebook to china? 2) Does the app allows to work without giving these permissions without internet? 3) Does the scan goes to their server first?

[@PaulsGarage]

I don't use a phone (computers work better) with it so it can't get my phone book and stuff. It doesn't need Internet to work, the scan and processing is all done on your machine. The scans are saved on your computer, not a network. As for anything being sent to China, who knows. I think both of these companies are Chinese, the software is from China, the products both shipped from China. I assume all software wants all my data to send to somewhere, regardless if the country of origin. Both of these scanners work great, though.

[@KetansaCreatesArt]

@@PaulsGarage Using the data against your nation is their priority... well these are complicated and big talks. So, I am glad it works offline. And a scanner that is worth buying I guess. I must go ahead and get one.

[@jonbaker77]

I'd love to watch more of this but the background music is too much

[@andyspoo2]

Wow, your wife! Your really punching there mate!

[@DerSolinski]

2:30 Ah... banana for scale...

[@hoonbag548]

I bought a Seal Lite and a Ferret Pro at the same time i can scan stuff but im blender dumb lol

[@juststeve5542]

Creality link seems broken for me in UK

[@PaulsGarage]

Here's a UK one store.creality.com/uk/products/cr-scan-ferret-3d-scanner?spm=..collection_a85f5dfb-ce5a-4611-a0ac-c82fcf862411.albums_1.1&spm_prev=..index.products_display_nav_2.1 not sure why their website doesn't just change locations.

[@juststeve5542]

@@PaulsGarage Thanks Paul! It seems to try to do some kind of redirect, and then just errors with a DNS error

[@aurktman1106]

Scanned my face (typical first scan) but the white hair on my chin won't scan. Oh well.

[@thedasroach7743]

3d scanner to lost foam casting when?

[@PaulsGarage]

I'm not a fan of lost foam but there's plenty of lost resin coming up!

[@rsstnnr76]

I've never used a 3D scanner. Most of the scans you showed in this video are really blobby. I guess I don't understand how that's useful. It seems like that would take forever to somehow clean up.

[@PaulsGarage]

Yeah the scans of very small things are not usable right out of the printer, but you can use the scans to build a copy to scale/proportion with a program like blender. it's actually better with larger objects. I would say something like a face is almost perfectly captured, and I have a video coming up eventually where I use the scanners to great effect building a ridable toy car.

[@brianfentress8155]

Is this the Seal or Seal Lite?

[@PaulsGarage]

Regular Seal

[@dfross87]

3:25 "Well, by March, anyway." As a long time viewer of this channel, I am wise your tricks.... March of which year? 🤣

[@PaulsGarage]

That's classified and I can not answer 🤣🤣

[@frankwhite2072]

When my brain realised it had been called a nerd, I could feel that it was deeply offended.

[@starguy9]

thanks paul, had ordered the ferret and was happy with its large size scan ability, but needed to do smaller scan. just ordered the seal and turn table . my wallet hates you.

[@feldinho]

I really miss your videos doing stuff. Now it’s just product reviews? I hope it goes well.

[@PaulsGarage]

Yeah it's a bit much isn't it. Going back to doing stuff.

[@nolanwhite1971]

I like the variety, actually. More videos would be nice (no pressure though, seriously). Getting back to melting would be really cool though!

[@PaulsGarage]

@@nolanwhite1971 well you're in luck, next 2 videos are melting stuff. One investment casting now with vacuum, and the next is casting the gingery lathe feet with a technique I've never used in a video before. (The feet are boring, gotta spice it up somehow eh?)

[@feldinho]

@@PaulsGarage cool!

[@absolut52]

Great video, but this music is driving me BONKERS! Something a lot more chill would improve the experience a lot (for me at least).

[@KaitoKaze]

you can

[@cekuhnen]

I am European and Metric is way easier to do math wise ;)

[@craigt66271]

A fellow 928 fan?

[@PaulsGarage]

I like them but I'm more a "car fan" than a specific kind of car fan. There's a lot out there, wouldn't want to limit my options! 🤣

[@cubalibrebgd]

"Metric is confusing" wow

[@antifaker1st]

I understand you want to limit the video timing, but you talk too fast, so understandable for people to do not talk english language so well !

[@jessiemmm]

It is not fair for ferret as you even didn’t scan medium to large objects with seal. But you scan small objects only with seal. What a misleading video

[@Splarkszter]

I hate when people make comparisions that don't even make sense, why would you even do that. They are completely different products.

[@nolanwhite1971]

First! lol

[@PaulsGarage]

can confirm first!

[@Draughammer]

As a 3D artist I can say that this loooks sooooooo bad and its probably easier to make new model instead of fixing up a model that looks like that when scanned