Here's What Happened at Semifinals // The Rich Froning Podcast 005

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[@michaelaavang1938]

Honest guys discussing the true issues and a path forward. This is why mayhem remains relevant and a force for good in the sport.

[@mikemccord1622]

The cut up in the beginning was put together perfectly 😂😂😂😂

[@Screven]

It would be interesting to see Fraser and Tia and rich talk at the same about the competitive side of CrossFit

[@swat486]

That podcast would break the internet and CrossFit world !! Have Rory host it

[@ManOfEthnicity]

The community needs more and more of these shows that don't depend on maintaining a glowing relationship with HQ for access and can speak their minds.

head over to our talks about the european region!

[@BrentB12]

I love all three of these guys. It’s been awesome to see the evolution of Rich and Angelo’s relationship over the years, there is mutual respect there now and they are so genuine with one another. Rory is all class. This is great guys, thank you for putting this out.

[@jacobellis9419]

Loved the mini sermon at the end of this. I'm currently laid off at work and get frustrated with the pressure infeel when things dont go well with job search, gym, family commitments etc. This reminded me things will be okay regardless the outcome and effort we give is honorable.

[@seanm3933]

I want to hear the conversation between the guy who denied you access and whoever his "boss" is after that happened. "You did what?!?!"

[@Koasmom_143]

Absolutely 💯 love that they are so solution focused rather than just throwing only criticism out there. Class Acts these guys! Love them even more! ❤

[@Navigator1276]

Great idea fans winning an opportunity to do a workout. Fan interaction is a great way to really pump up the experience for the common person.

[@jearly1090]

AN event/test with a decreasing amount of equipment like musical chairs would be EPIC

[@Barb_WireCat]

Brian Friend & Mike Halpin have already made their own Strength of Field analysis that breaks down how many from each region goes to the Games. They were on Sevan a few weeks ago discussing it.

[@jasonkelly7827]

Glad y'all were open about the situation.

[@nothinbutnet2009]

that Trifecta ad is brutal to watch

[@tracybriggs3542]

Great podcast! Makes me worried for the future of the sport hearing about what happened to Rich at semifinals, are they crazy!!

[@Bern1808]

Running such a complex, world-wide event is enormously challenging -- and you will never please everyone (maybe anyone!), but... CrossFit has such an enormous pool of practical, intelligent, and well-intentioned people (as above, and in other places) in their community that could capably help them to avoid obvious errors and make things better in all types of ways. HQ would be smart to loosen up its ego and lean on these resources. The silver lining to many of the sport-side problems is that obvious solutions are so readily apparent and doable.

[@danemiodov1289]

Thanks guys. That last 20 mins or so talking about purpose and “being ok” regardless how the workout goes was def something I needed to hear. Appreciate y’all.

[@user-ge1yj7vr3e]

Really enjoyed this episode. Thank you for the content, Mayhem crew!

[@alediusfitness]

I was the most into Crossfit during Rich's era of 2011-2015ish - I remember seeing Crossfit Games on ESPN and thinking how much bigger it could grow. Sucks that we actually hear Angelo have to tell his friend that he has no clue where he could watch his event lol - for sure the Games is different than regionals so it might not be as prioritized, but it's bummer seems like the marketing/brand growth is going backwards.

[@karasaundo]

The other thing that needs to be fixed is athletes getting full placing points for being capped in workouts. You can get capped in half the workouts and be 10 places higher then someone who was able to complete every test.

[@lancesapp3530]

This is my new favorite podcast. You guys work good together. Thanks guys.

[@DesignedByTaz]

This is an amazing conversation that needs to be had. CrossFit has always been its own worst enemy.

[@cole.s1442]

This podcast keeps getting better and better!

[@joshhubbard]

Gosh dang 😂 the way Rich talks about Lukes intelligence is funny

[@cbreezy873]

Can't feel great for Luke. He should be more aware of that

[@richfroning5156]

It’s all out of love, he has a great heart.

[@Jimminityjabooboo]

They’re bros, this is grilling out of love

[@steinleeschreiber909]

Enjoyed watching the NA East in person. Was hoping to see Rich and Scott throw down in the Spectator workouts. But I love the idea of spectators demo the "tests" with CrossFit legends. And I would absolutely pay for full streaming coverage.

[@krista6677]

Watched Hiller’s video and he is bang on!!!! If they want to promote CrossFit (Games, Brand, Health) then if they did an example of the movements AND then show what scaled looks like in CrossFit Gyms for those in the stands or watching on their phones. Then those folks who think CrossFit is the Games might look into joining a CrossFit gym because it shows it can be done. Folks have to wait for the set up of the field anyway.

[@PNW_Charles]

Really enjoying this refreshed format for your podcast. Cheers!

[@gregoryclute]

Imagine Michael Jordan showing up to any NBA game and being treated like this. Hahah. The days of common sense are fast departing. From a strict business perspective, these sorts of decisions aren't congruent with longevity.

[@bmauzertx3347]

Those opening cuts crack me up! 🤣🤣🤣

[@thelogginsden8029]

I got into CrossFit because of the games. I only do mayhem30 but all of my strength numbers have sky rocketed because of it. I agree the Games are the best advertising piece for CrossFit.

[@MrJuanAverage]

I volunteered in 2014/2015 in Del Mar and used to pretend to scan a ticket to friends and just let in 😆. Oh and I remember Rory back in his media days always cool and friendly

[@sometimesising1016]

Mayhem, PRVN, and HWPO would run this much better than Crossfit. Thanks for being honest about the situation. Fans are frustrated.

[@drew8996]

I hit 392 max back squat. Went for 400 and tore my adductor. Tore 5 abs on the way down. Maybe don’t always go for the even number PR! ❤

[@amycarss5518]

Such a good podcast. 100% agree. As someone watching from another country (Canada) I'd love to get better media coverage and would definitely do a ppv to actually be able to access that. The coverage is not good from crossfit hq. I watch Mayhem and Buttery Bros after the events are already over. The live coverage is terrible.

[@emilythompson23]

This is why I can get behind Mayhem, they always go back to their faith in Jesus Christ. Love it!

[@RussellFlynn]

At the very end Rich is talking about eliminating the number of equipment after each round. Can’t remember the year but The Fittest Games back in like 2013-14 had that has their final and it was the event that determined the podium

[@mikenuckols4422]

Rich. Probably don’t get to these comments. But I can tell you brother, CrossFit fits me in all the ways that are insane and therapeutic. But you are totally 100% correct in that, this is all passing and at the end of the day god wants passion in your life and that shines through any (pain) you might go through to be your best self. It took me going through a lot at 54 to make it - keep it simple stupid! Thanks Rich

[@eltennis]

I like that idea for a CrossFit games event. Start with 10 down to 8 down to 6 etc. Would definitely be a new format never seen before.

[@renatacurtis8110]

Such good critiques, discussions, dissections of Crossfit. Love that you also try and be solution based, rather than just moaning. CrossFit has a long way to go, and they generally run everything so badly and get away with it. I’m glad yous are there to highlight these inconsistencies, CrossFit needs it to do better.

[@babisandes]

Just unbelievable that you have to ask for it!

[@hooch2505]

sooo many valid points 🙌

[@emmacoughlan702]

This also just reminds me of the time when Kara Saunders was injured and she could have just stepped on the floor, not done a rep and she would’ve won the games. But withdrew due to injury. But then you see people coming out and not completing a minimum work requirement and progressing through things. It’s pretty wild. Would hope to see some changes to the scoring system made. Because if someone is finishing a workout 5 mins ahead or lifting much heavier, or being capped etc. there should be a higher or lower point score. If you’re capped and can’t complete a workout you shouldn’t get the same points as the person who was the lowest out of the people who could complete the workload if that makes sense. Could be half way through a workout with a cap but get 1 point less than someone who did the whole workout in that time. If you want the fittest on earth you’d naturally reward the person who completes it the fittest. Definitely do hope there is some change up to the score system to reflect the work load at some time in the future.

[@bpatti05]

The top leadership of CrossFit has been really bad the last 4-5 years including GG. CrossFit has always had this “it’s our way only” mindset and it’s a terrible way to operate.

[@clintonhopkins4310]

I watched the Torian Pro. They did an amazing job with coverage!

[@rodm49]

Just as Rich suggested, if Mayhem Empire and HWPO / PRVN sits down and talk about solutions and suggestions to a better CrossFit Even experience… EVERYONE will follow suit.

[@ToddyMchottie]

Don’t forget TTT.. they have some brains over there

[@christophermahoney7115]

I would love to help with the QF percentage qualifying to the games schematic. I agree with how that pans out.

[@Deenocon]

I love the way Rich tells stories hahaha #goat

[@alexn5120]

Someone explains me the thing behind the words event - test and workouts, i don't understand?

[@michaelemond8737]

It wasn't said and I'm not speaking for anyone, but it sounds like CrossFit HQ is jealous that Mayhem Athlete, HWPO, PROVEN and I'll even say Rogue Fitness is more successful than the CrossFit brand. CrossFit HQ has done so much damage to themself I don't think they'll ever be able to recover and only time will tell what's going to happen to them.

[@bs431980]

HQ needs more DEI 😂

[@RussellFlynn]

The cold openings of the pod are almost before than the entire podcast. 😂

[@EISFitness]

Coach Josh is awesome! The best! Another awesome episode! BOOM!

[@dustinharvey5393]

All the bullshit aside, I love when Rich says a word, repeats that word, and then figures out it was the correct word haha 😂

[@andregreedy8289]

Does Oceania not have full media coverage of every test?

[@renatacurtis8110]

Yes the whole competition is online. Torian Pro is running it though not CrossFit. So we probably have the money to have media coverage.

[@mistameanor1]

CrossFit is also one of the only sport where you can have pretty easy access to some of the best of the best at these events. People want that. I’d love to show up to an event and be able to see Rich. Maybe get a photo.

[@Gerschwin83]

lol riches sponsor clips are epic lol ... thanks for this break down and review of things

[@j1ggy435]

Crossfit HQ listening and adding all of Rich’s pet peeves in the crossfit games now 😂

[@ejomara]

Great conversation

[@Jimminityjabooboo]

Fired the entire media team for a company that was essentially a media company lol. Cutting yourself off at the knees with promoting your brand and reaching to new audiences, but now after the fact, you say “we need to promote to new and larger audiences”.. CrossFit, oh, CrossFit

truth is spoken

[@JessCGavin]

CrossFit should work on a broadcasting partnership to show semifinals or show all competitions during the "games season". It might not be CBS but there might be a station who would be interested in that.

[@samyg2020]

As Socrates once said “Strong minds discuss ideas.” Love it fellas! The fact that you address this ludicrous event (because how could you ever deny Rich any access in any CrossFit event) in a productive and mature manner speaks volumes of y’all.

[@Bryanhorne13]

Top notch as always awesome show.

[@pdoggity]

Is anyone really surprised given CrossFit's recent missteps?

[@joshsavage8620]

Episode was great guys and agree with everything you guys said about the sport, community, and fixing CrossFit HQ. Also their decision to put ind event 1 and team 3 exclusive to the CrossFit podcast was terrible. Camera feeds were awful, I guess to increase their podcast views? Instead of the usual live stream which is not flawed.

[@masterstraining]

28:31 I would like to hear more about this. What is the cost to set up a booth? Cost for Title sponsor? What is the ROI?

[@judeyyudkin3183]

I don’t understand why CrossFit over the past 2 years has continually ignored the input which is coming from the people who have experience and knowledge within the CrossFit community like CrossFit Mayhem (Knowledge of inner workings and experience as athletes etc), Sevan (knowledge of inner workings and huge base of input from CrossFit community) and Andrew Hiller (huge base of CrossFit community with input)

[@crowloughlin]

Bring back Armen Hammer

[@glennsorokan9608]

Awesome podcast boys!

[@donniepatke4835]

Rising Tide, raises all ships !!

[@TheRealDjBlake]

this is the best!!! love the content

[@ownfl4g]

For sure another coach put in the word that you couldn’t be there to try and get some competitive advantage

[@leshlycook5068]

Great podcast, thank you…

[@Philmccracken45]

Yes to the uncancellable shirt 👏🏻

[@Craig_Alexander]

Yo my boy luke getting roasted. He has the most pure heart cmon guys 😂❤❤

[@jonathanortega5857]

“Suck it Ryan” - rich my new tshirt

[@MTaborsky]

RE: Getting the right people to the games. You have that at a lot of competitions. Olympics limit participants per country, weightclass etc. Same goes for most world championships. Why not make A and B group at the games? Especially in smaller markets it’s harder to go pro (Africa, Asia, Latin America,..), so you got to bring those athletes in in another way

[@carloszayas8203]

Base on the stats and his performance in the sport Rich is the fittest man on earth

[@On_Fly_Media]

Sweet, I’m part of the denied media team too!!

[@cameronmoorer5291]

“Into the Airwall” tshirts

[@pablolouis7732]

Never meet your heros unless they’re Rich Froning

[@juananjuanan7089]

CF must be paying Rich to attend those events. CF as a brand is burnt. Thanks to Rich is still a thing to follow.

[@justinwright3099]

54:32 Milford also had about 19 reps that should’ve been no reps on their last set of burpees on the last workout. The judge let them get away with murder out there and they ended edging out due to a bunk tie break system 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@cristianvamanu]

Rich is the GOAT

[@marcseiller7660]

Rich, would love to have you talk about your MTB training etc

[@anitalifeofwellness]

I would pay to have access to watch the games.

[@rodm49]

Bring Brian Friend and Mike Halpin (Z-Score creator) on as guests. That will be an awesome podcast convo.

[@jacobveu4859]

No Lakelyn, Rich is the Fittest Man in History! 😂 Still a helluva call 👏👏👏

[@swervosuave694]

1:09:00 Can someone link the video Rich is talking about?

[@rodm49]

Angelo, it just hurts man 🥶

[@bethgentry404]

PPV is a great idea.

[@JPats36]

Can you guys answer a question for me? I was just watching Torian Pro semifinals teams. I saw so many people doing the one legged squat (pistol) and every single rep they let their foot touch the ground. Correct me if I'm wrong but I thought that wasn't allowed.

[@OliverST4RY]

Air wall!!! 😂😂😂

[@FDCaptain02]

If Mayhem just took over CrossFit we'd all be better off. Change my mind.

[@chimrichalds7435]

It is hard to believe that crossfit hq continues to take 2 steps forward and 2 steps back. They are their own enemy.

[@hunterfrizzelle1946]

Just take the top 40 men and women in the world to the games. It should be based on merit, not where you live. It doesn’t matter where you live, it should be based on the top 40. Period.

[@bbbt8090]

If you think Rich was pist, imagine how Hilary felt lol

[@annh.]

She wasn't there.

[@jenniferb8758]

I thought Rich had a coaches pass? I’m still confused 😅😅😅 love the podcast!

[@rwebbtxtx]

He did, but then they denied him access because he wasn't listed as a coach for a specific athlete.

[@leshlycook5068]

Rich didn’t have a coaches pass - Mayhem gave out all their coaches passes to other staff - because days before CFHQ said Rich and Hillary would be given access anyway..

[@WagyuMamaRanch]

Julie ruptured her Achilles and they let her finish the comp IN A CAST

[@jonathanlane7370]

Rich "I have never claimed to not be a child or stubborn." 🤣 I love it. But honestly as the affiliate with the largest representation at almost all high level CF competitions and doing nothing but spreading the methodology and their mission you would think you guys would get full access to everything. Kind of Crazy story.

[@dannyl3858]

I think Rich should come back to individual competition so he can get a better view of the event.

[@ungarlinski7965]

Wow. This WAS all about Rich's ego.

[@jaimejacomevanegas135]

The athletes have built such a big platform for themselves that at times it seems the only thing that CrossFit hq is providing is an arena in which you guys can compete under a respected name "Crossfit Games".. sadly the direction this is heading is that you guys (hwpo, prvn, mayhem etc) join forces and make something better happen for the professional athletes, the community side of Crossfit for me is not in jeopardy given the star power you guys bring to the table and your capacity to market what you do successfully and more times than not better than hq is willing to put any sort of effort into. In the end the mission is to provide health to the masses via exercise and community support, not by repping a company name

[@crowloughlin]

Wasnt something like that in place about 2 years ago around the glassman cintroversy stuff. It was like an athlrthes union and involved alot of top athlethes. Not sure if its still a thing.