Cheap Ford Mustang GT vs Expensive Ford Mustang GT: Should You Spend $12,000 More?

[@MikeekiM-vh5se]

Axle ratio 3:15 for automatic vs 3.73 for the manual is moot in modern 6..7..8..9..10 speed automatics when you compare it to a manual,,as the gear ratio in the transmission for 1st gear in automatics is lower than the the 6 speed manual thus eliminating the rear axle ratio by tenfold. 6 speed transmission 1st gear ratio is 3.25 10 speed transmission 1st gear ratio is 4.70 You would need a axle ratio of 4.73's in the manual to be side by side the 10 speed automatic!! Most people are lost on this!

[@07wrxtr1]

Bingo - this is exactly how I beat a manual audi r8 v8 in my “stupid pos nissan” 370z. 7AT has good mechanical advantage early on… Imagine a fox body weight with that 10speed and power!

[@marcasswellbmd6922]

I would still rather have the manual.. Just for the fun of it and total control over the car..

[@hermanrogers1325]

So it seems ford is still lying about horsepower more like 310 hp instead of 486 they been telling those lies about hp for years

[@07wrxtr1]

@@hermanrogers1325 Herman - if it was a "dude bro flat billed hat edition" then it would actually put the power to the ground ;-)

[@robp.1995]

With one being a manual it totally makes the comparison a non comparison right off the bat. They should both be 10 speeds to actually see if there is a difference.

[@JebusHypocristosX]

Manual used to be much faster, the difference here is the extra weight. Kids are young they don't know yet.

[@vinsondansby8276]

That is exactly why I stopped watching the video. They gave the descriptions, and I went right to the comments!

[@ahmedkhadir176]

exactly, idk why they thought this was a good comparison

[@JebusHypocristosX]

@@ahmedkhadir176 They are showing that the auto is faster, dumb people are having a low of trouble comprehending this basic fact.

[@Djeafskie]

​@@JebusHypocristosXu got it wrong there. 10 speed automatic is faster than manual in drag race or straight race.

[@barrydraper]

Same thing is true with the Camaro SS and ZL1 lineup. The 10-speed Auto is faster than the manual, with the same engine. You don't buy the manual for the best performance. You buy it for the engaging fun and in many cases the manual will be more reliable in the long run.

[@skipgumphrey9579]

That might hold true for the versions (Mach I, Dark Horse, etc) that come with the Tremec transmission, but I would always assume the 10R80 automatic to be more reliable than the Getrag MT82 six speed manual transmission that comes in most Mustangs and GTs…

[@steveroberts4040]

Drive the chinese MT82 manual aggressively and see how long it lasts. I can't believe Ford is still putting it in 5.0 mustangs. It's shameful

[@Spiritcr1jsher]

I had 3 of them . They work fine ​@@steveroberts4040

[@johnmcmullen456]

​@@steveroberts4040My 2014 bought new with the MT82 now has over 55k miles. A daily driver but has been used in autocross, open track, and drag events. I did the easy shifter bracket and bushing upgrades. Never had a problem.

[@Rhett.Castillo]

The 2024 mustang has a Tremec​@steveroberts4040

[@jasonstorie8740]

Slamming gears in the manual is more exciting though. For me I’d much rather have the manual I’m not going drag racing, for people that have never had a manual shifting car they don’t understand how much satisfying and fun it can be.

[@JogBird]

it becomes a chore quickly, esp in day to day driving when its 100 degrees out and you are stuck in traffic and already late. if you are on a track im sure its fun.

[@joshreynolds729]

Yeah I see both points and agree with both. Can’t enjoy a manual in traffic 🤣. But give it some room for a pull and it’s a good time. Used to be the manuals weee better cheaper and faster but tech has come a long way.

[@wusthof641]

If I was in traffic ALL day, I would begrudgingly buy an auto. I start early in the morning and leave before rush hour traffic so...... Been driving a manny tranny for 30 years now and won't stop if I have the option

[@Astrox326]

Honestly it's preference

[@spcneary]

@@JogBirdI have never once wished I had an automatic transmission, even in stop and go traffic. If you are buying an auto just get an EV IMO, it’s the better version of what an auto or cvt is trying to do. I find it ironic that the same people who shill for automatic transmissions say they don’t like EVs even though they are better than modern auto turbo cars for the same reasons.

[@rynev3392]

Would’ve liked to see an Apples to Apples comparison with the transmission

[@laxplayer99]

automatics have been faster than manuals for years. That's why all the super cars went with flappy paddles a long time ago.

[@728GT]

For what? To have them basically tied?

[@rynev3392]

@@728GT too see if the weight difference and rear differential ratio makes a difference and possibly traction, that’s why….. no body really cares about the junk MT-82 transmission/clutch they have been using for the last decade, I’ve owned 2 and would never buy one again

[@DWH300]

Your forgetting about the better tires on the premium. They make a big difference and likely weigh more as does the automatic versus the manual transmission. I'm referring to this test because the automatic car weighs more.

[@728GT]

@@rynev3392 thats true. The MT82 is cheeks and I get pissed off every time some stupid "journalist" reviews them against cars for laptimes etc knowing its sabotaging the results.

[@rastaph]

You need to compare with both cars having the same transmission. Either do auto vs auto or manual vs manual.

[@bryaninnc5511]

I can’t get over those screens. Big mistake getting rid of the gauges in my opinion.

[@NEO_RedPill_2024]

I have to agree. There is the nostalgia option on the screen for the fox body gauges but they could have styled the screen to keep the same look and be digital instead of just a tablet

[@atmartens]

Agreed. Classic gauges will always look nice where screens will look outdated in 10 years because the technology for them gets better and better.

[@BULZAYE]

@@atmartensYou don’t know that. In 10 years they could be upgradeable.

[@1pigpen7]

Agreed, they look like a gross afterthought.

[@immanuelo.9548]

That's why you can still buy an old mustang

[@aynsleyjeansonne]

I went to the 24h du Le Mans last weekend with my son. The only cars there that were as loud as the HyperCars running was the Mustangs.

[@carculturenation2166]

I would spend the $49,995 & get either base mustang gt or f150 with whipple included and installed plus warranty you can't beat that!!

[@AntChiulli-Chiulli_RS]

Except an f150 is a truck😂

[@Countryboi12]

@@AntChiulli-Chiulli_RS It is lmao congrats.. get those with a whipple singlecab and you will dust everything

[@kenwolf2431]

Really disapointed with your lastest Mustang vs Mustang test. The manual Mustang Gt is not sick its just allot slower because the manual is that much slower than an Auto. The 3.55 gear Mustang GT with the 10 speed auto is the fastest version from the factory and that is the one you should have pitted against your Auto Gt with the 3:15. All autos on the Mustangs are faster than any manual Mustang. If you guys would do a little research you would know this before doing this test with a false narrative about gears. No gear that factory offers in a manual Mustang is going to overcome the 10 speed autos advantage. What you missed is us finding out the difference between an 3:15 gear Auto and 3:55 Auto. Motor Trend tested a performance pack auto and the auto is allot faster than a manual performance pack. A auto 3:55 gear base GT will be faster than your 3:15 gear auto GT if both have the Auto in the same trim. You missed it guys would have been nice to see the difference between the 3:55 and 3:15's. You look bad with a test like this when everyone knows that the manual is great deal slower than the Auto in the Mustang. The manual is almost a 1/2 second slower to 60 and in the 1/4 mile too compared to the Auto. Do your research guys it makes you look silly like you know nothing about modern performance cars. If you do a test between a base non performance pack and a base performance pack both with autos than it would have been a valid test to see the difference. The gears do make a difference when both have the same drivetrain.

[@theinternets7516]

Getting that base mustang for 42k is actually a great deal. Nearly 500hp for 42k was unthinkable 20 years ago.

[@bobert866]

Maybe buying from factory. Otherwise, nope.

[@RichardJones-kx6mb]

I took the manual in my 22 gt. Rowing the gears is way more fun and if another gt passes me, well the taillights look nice. As to possible differences in the engines I can speak from personal experience. My wife and got matching manual 98 V6s one time. They both felt really nice. Same trim level. The only difference was the exterior color. If I just drove mine, I never noticed any problems. If I drove hers the same day, hers felt just a bit better. Like the folks building it were in a better mood. We never raced because we never left at the same time so I don’t know if it was faster. Definite difference though.

[@petrbenda3406]

After owning a 2015 Mustang with the manual transmission and a 2021 with the automatic, I must say that I like the automatic way better. The manual was more fun and engaging, but ever since the Mustang got the adaptive cruise control with the 2018 facelift, the combination with the automatic transmission has been just too comfortable for daily driving to buy a manual.

[@alparkranger]

I'm 70% highway and would not have a vehicle without adaptive cruise control. I have the 2024 GT convertible which I like but I need to get off the highway more since I never keep the top down over 65.

[@brandonstewart7145]

The performance pack car has a little more weight and bigger wheels which could rob some power.

[@StamatakosTom5791]

Exactly! You would think the 3.73 axle makes up for it but it doesn't

[@JebusHypocristosX]

@@StamatakosTom5791 Unsprung weight of bigger wheels, tires and breaks at all four corners cost acceleration.

[@RonnN-gf8tm]

Mustang racing first thing in the morning..with coffee..Nice job guys.😃Love mustang racing!!

[@JCTiggs1]

For reference here are the individual gear ratios for each transmission al9ng with the torque multiplication (individual gear x final drive ratio)... Getrag MT82-D4 (2018+ Mustang) 1st 3.24 (11.50 or 12.09) 2nd 2.11 (7.49 or 7.87) 3rd 1.42 (5.04 or 5.30) 4th 1.00 (3.55 or 3.73) 5th 0.82 (2.91 or 3.06) 6th 0.62 (2.20 or 2.31) FDR: 3.55 or 3.73 10R80 auto (2018+ Mustang) 1st 4.70 (14.81 or 16.69) 2nd 2.99 (9.42 or 10.62) 3rd 2.15 (6.77 or 7.63) 4th 1.77 (5.58 or 6.28) 5th 1.52 (4.79 or 5.40) 6th 1.28 (4.03 or 4.55) 7th 1.00 (3.15 or 3.55) 8th 0.85 (2.68 or 3.02) 9th 0.69 ( 2.17 or 2.45) 10th 0.64 (2.02 or 2.27) FDR: 3.15 or 3.55 (2.85 Camaro V8)

[@H8onG]

I would take the base model, add some aftermarket katzkin leather seats. Pick my own nice aftermarket wheels. Then pick my own suspension upgrade. I would much rather do that than have a stock premium car.

[@robsolf]

Reminds me of the RS days in the 80's, when you could get the 5.0 in a lighter package without all the air effects. If you're gonna go custom and upgrade the suspension anyway, there's no point in getting all that extra GT stuff.

[@carculturenation2166]

or just goI would spend the $49,995 & get either base mustang gt or f150 with whipple included and installed plus warranty you can't beat that!!

[@dwaynesurratt]

Yeah the 10 automatic would be my choice. I have a 2018 f150 2.7 with the 10 speed automatic that is pretty good for a stock truck. It ran a 14.88@96 mph

[@tri3pleagent]

Performance pack and active exhaust with a base GT checking in. The performance pack is definitely worth it.

[@luciankristov6436]

I love the mustang and ford but that dash cluster is a disaster! Looks so damn lazy ! Like they went on Amazon, bought the cheapest slowest tablet and glued them to the lack of dash... Horrendous design

[@1pigpen7]

Simply horrible looking!

[@paulr1010]

It's called modernization - have you seen modern cars lately? They are moving towards these type of screens

[@DWH300]

From the time I spent in an S650 premium Mustang GT. I didn't find it filled with plastic as you kept mentioning. The 10R80 is the transmission choice for drag racing plus the premium is a more comfortable daily driver with the heated and cooled seats along with other included options like it's tires and bigger brakes. It's possible the base car needs a computer upgrade which Ford recently completed via Wi-Fi. So instead of complaining. Take it to a dealership. The nice part about purchasing the base is you can add your own bolt on performance parts when you have the extra money to improve it. Quarter mile times. FYI. I recently priced a new charger RT wit a 5.7. Cloth seats without power. A terrible decade old interior that had a $60,000 price. That's higher than the higher equipped Mustang GT premium. I would take the Mustang any day of the week when it's about features and the Gen 4 Coyote V8. I think you guys would complain if you found a bag of $100 bills because one was wrinkled.

[@drummerman4444]

The one guy looks just like his father. It's nice to see a son do well in his father's business. I paid 42 for my 2022, but there weren't as many of them in that day. The sticker was 45k. It had special paint, stripe, exaust, auto, and the bigger screen. It would have been nice to be able to get the newest one for the same money. At 100 mph, mine feels great. I try not to hit high speeds though. Mostly punch is 0-60. Nice to know you can pass and merge at will.

[@billlee1227]

Tommy is the highlight of this channel. Well done man

[@scottieray]

I owned a 2021 GT with performance pack and Magnaride. Living in the Ozarks, the Performance Pack was absolutely a better choice than the base GT. It was a great handling car.

[@JebusHypocristosX]

Back in 1990 I bought a 5.0 coupe with radio delete, wind up windows, no air, no back seat for under $13,000 CDN. You kids have a lot to learn about Mustangs and unsprung weight hindering acceleration. Those bigger tires and breaks are heavier too kids.

[@GooglePixelGoogle]

I had a 1991 5.0 Coupe, fun car, was like driving a go-cart. Light weight, tons of aftermarket support, and just great visibility out of the back. I will buy another one someday. I enjoyed it much more than my 2012 Mustang GT and the 2015+ GTs that I have rented.

[@thebigguy8306]

Drag racing in the morning, you must have been watching me go to work, coffee in one hand, McMuffin in the other, blow drying my hair with the car vents, tying my tie, and driving with my knees

[@speterbilt]

6mt for me

[@BC08]

How the hell is a Mustang GT premium the same price as a 302A F150 SuperCrew 4x4 XLT with a 5.0? Ford absolutely has so much more money producing that aluminum F150 than this steel S650 which is a barely changed at all S550

[@delbertmcfinklestein8576]

Low volume cars are always more expensive. Way more F150's sold than mustangs.

[@BC08]

@@delbertmcfinklestein8576 Mustangs are mass produced cars and not low volume by any means. The S650 is not meaningfully different than the S550, and the S550 was based on the S197 which itself was based on the DEW98. Go look at the prices of a 2001 Mustang GT vs a 2001 Ford F150 SuperCrew 4x4. The F150 was ~30% more expensive which definitely is a better reflection of production costs. Since then F-Series has moved to all aluminum construction for the cab and body which is significantly more expensive than steel. The Mustang is currently overpriced

[@delbertmcfinklestein8576]

@@BC08 the Mustang has no competition now that Camaro's and Charger's are out of production, so I agree Ford is taking advantage of that and upping the price. That said, you have to sell allot of cars to cover development costs and Ford sells far more F150's than Mustangs. 750,000 vs 53,000 in '23. No comparison.

[@BC08]

@@delbertmcfinklestein8576 Like I said though development costs for the Mustang were paid for long ago. The base chassis traces its roots back to the Lincoln LS (DEW98), steel construction and powertrain costs are amortized by sharing with F150. Ford has spent huge amounts of money being the first truly mass produced all-aluminum body construction with the ‘15 F150, not to mention much greater raw materials costs. Yes volume reduces production costs to a point but I’m willing to wager Ford has a higher profit margin on a 2024 Mustang GT than a 2024 F150 SuperCrew 4x4 5.0 XLT.

[@rogerwolfe7302]

I've had both manual and 10r80 auto. I enjoyed the manual more

[@UR_AL_SHOOK_UP_21]

Same here

[@bobert866]

Should have bought a prius if you enjoyed going slow more than going fast.

[@rogerwolfe7302]

@bobert866 it don't take a good driver to go fast. Learn to drive and go drifting

[@yunalfo1552]

Some people don’t get the connection , the feeling of having control

[@Lane-jq3ed]

Maybe it depends on where you are going to drive your Stang🤔 some people prefer the automatic when your stuck in traffic...

[@vancity_coaster]

I broke my diff many years ago in a fox and went from a 3:73 to a highway gear junk yard diff. I drove it for a couple months and beat a few friends I couldn’t beat before. When I changed out the open diff and locked it up with 3:73’s I missed the gears on the highway. that convertible fox had no business going that fast though. I had it change lanes by itself at high speeds a few times. Good old days 🙈🤪😎

[@pbmcgme176]

Base model automatics value just went up after this video. That’s what I would get personally as I’m an older young man now😂. I even prefer big tires as opposed to rims. Never thought this day would come.

[@davidlopez991]

The reason that the automatic version of the Mustang does not have the final drive ratio of the manual is that automatics have something called a stator which mutiplys the torque produced which would in a manual would be compensated of by a lower numeric gear ratio in the differential.

[@StardustADV]

Automatics are better for drag racing. But The manual would be more fun on the twisty road, so I will go with the manual. 👌

[@xziang]

Base model and a whipple (10-12k) and got the price of the premium with loads more power!! People rave about that 10spd need to out up the base model gt against a 4wd f150 standard cab. The truck scene is coming back/is back with the performance people are getting from them now a days.

[@maximillianmitchell4380]

Not exactly apples to apples with a manual and an auto. Mustang with a manual is the only way to go. Shame it’s gotten so insanely expensive, even for the base one. Gone are the days of getting a new PP1 mustang for under $40k 😔

[@logyz450]

I’ve noticed that the base does have a gap in the infotainment system and the premium trim does not. Does that still mean they are the same but with a small plastic insert on the premium?

[@andresgarcia7757]

These cars are cool and all, but they look so heavy when driving along the track, plus paying almost 60.000 is a bit much. I rather have a 2012 boss; might be less advanced but a more fun experience.

[@appleiphone69]

My extra cheat code on my 2019 GT auto with performance exhaust is having 3.55 gears which was a $550 option and probably not many people selected.

[@robert2922]

Hey guys, interesting comparison. How about one more? A 2024 Camaro LT 1 with an Auto vs your base GT? I know, Camaro is no longer in production but there are still a few out there. How about it?

[@NAZTYPONY007]

imagine the auto had the 3.55 optional rear ....would have liked to see a darkhorse A10 vs a perrformance pack gt A10 . the manual in the new mustangs is a dog ..the MT82 D5 had better ratios 12-17 3.66 1st and 5th was 1.1 with a better spread but still not as aggressive as a 10Speed ...my 18 A10 .355 vs my 19 bullit 3.73.6 speed no comparison .....11.77 119mph a 10 vs 12.37 115 ..on a roll from 30 or 50 it got walked hard too sold the bullit kept the A10

[@TheWankington]

Some of you guys are missing the point of this. It was supposed to be auto vs manual for a reason. Then even gave an edge to the manual with the 3.73 rear end. Its tuff to beat these new autos. I'm kinda regretting opting for a manual some days. I love going through the gears but when it comes down to 1/4 mile and roll races your usually walked buy the auto.

[@6844376]

If you really want to embarrass the manual race the GT vs. the 4 cyl auto!! Manuals maybe be fun when you are alone on the road but not in traffic nor racing.

[@rileyfowler2389]

In no world is an auto ecoboost beating a manual GT

[@CaptainAlex69]

@@rileyfowler2389 not stock but my buddie’s 2020 eco boost 10 speed makes like 500 whp and walks on hellcats. Edit: also, manual is very fun (easier and safer as well imo) in traffic and in every situation. Once you’re good at it you can do anything. Slower? For sure, especially in this instance. Edit again: these edits were meant for OP.

[@6844376]

@@rileyfowler2389 hey man I agree.. so then why not find out the truth? 4cyl auto vs. GT 6sp

[@G.M85007]

Let's put it this way. No matter how fast auto are now days. Is boring to drive. Manual is the only way !

[@m.hasler7263]

Why? The only reason to drive a manual and the fun was because they were faster with better shifts. Now that is gone. There is zero fun about working the transmission for zero reward. You just add more work, and lose your ability to use your right hand for other tasks. Anyone who says they want a manual for “fun” is lying to themselves

[@Rskitalll]

You do feel more connected to the car with a manual but autos are so much better now that the trade off isn’t worth it.

[@m.hasler7263]

@@Rskitalll to each their own I guess, I never felt more connected with a manual. My connection was always through the seat in manual or automatic. Once I learned a vehicle I could feel what it was doing and when it was going to let go on a turn, auto shift on an automatic, lose breaking after a bump etc. The manual shift never gave me anything special I was not already feeling.

[@donredden7022]

Curious what the RWHP/RWTQ difference between these cars would be on a chassis dyno.

[@Jedi391]

I hate screens in cars, they’ll age poorly and if they go out they’re going to cost you.

[@scotter]

I'd like to know how magna ride compares to normal suspension in terms of daily driving on rough roads. Like if you set the magna ride to softest possible setting.

[@pauls3758]

Can you get a automatic performance pack 3.55 and run it again? And that 10 speed literally made the manual obsolete so much faster shifts

[@LeesChannel]

I think, on top of what was mentioned in the video, that the larger wheels are also hurting the performance of the more expensive model.

[@bigboipluto5755]

I had a conversation that I remembered when one of them brought up that its a muscle car. Me personally, I think the new mustangs, even the S550's, have become more of a sports car than a Muscle car. The last real muscle car IMO was the challenger in a lot of ways. Muscle cars are your big, heavy, high horsepower cars that are straight line focused. The mustangs have become more sportier in the sense that its an all rounder car

[@GooglePixelGoogle]

The Mustang was never really a muscle car, it was a pony car. The muscle car was a midsized vehicle with a company's larger performance V8 engine, think GTO, Chevelle, Fairlane, Torino, and 442. The Camaro, Firebird, Cuda/Challenger (debateable), AMX, and Mustang were pony cars. The pony car is an American car classification for affordable, compact, highly styled coupés or convertibles with a "sporty" or performance-oriented image. Common characteristics include rear-wheel drive, a long hood, a short decklid, a wide range of options to individualize each car and use of mass-produced parts shared with other models. There is much debate among enthusiasts about the exact definition of a pony car, and what differentiates the vehicle from a muscle car. The general consensus is that pony cars are smaller and more refined than muscle cars. A few intermediate-size vehicles, such as the Dodge Challenger, may be considered to belong to both categories.

[@bigboipluto5755]

@@GooglePixelGoogle actually very informational. Thanks for the new knowledge!

[@marcasswellbmd6922]

Those screen suck badly.. What good are those screens if they are going to have cheap processors running them...

[@brentvance3958]

That’s crazy about feeling unstable because I have a 2016 Ford Fiesta SE with the 3-cylinder and at over 100 feels great. 121 mph is where my car is governed.

[@coryu2403]

Automatic a ton faster and half as fun I prefer fun that’s why I got the manual 🤷‍♂️😂

[@bobert866]

You seem dumb.

[@santodegennaro7620]

Dude, what your feeling is the very long gear ratio in the m282 trans. There's nothing wrong with that car, it's just a getrag. The 10r80 makes the car feel like your making another 150 hp. The ratios are tight and it shifts like lightning. I own both and the difference is nuts.

[@scotter]

Assuming/hoping the car "remembers" the quiet (or other) mode and it isn't something you have to do every time you start it?

[@andrewd4410]

I would be curious to have you drag race it with automatic in manual mode using paddle shifters

[@shawnmcandrew6923]

auto or not if you know how to drag shift a manual it wont be that drastic. If you have the 3:55 its a torsen. I have a base 300a package and its got a torsen. The difference in size of the pads on the 4 piston Brembo's and the 6 piston isn't very much. The base gt has 14 inch front and rear rotors.

[@chillislives]

Wonder what the weight difference is in the wheels? I seitched to a heavier wheel/tire setup on my Transit build and the 0-60 and 1/4 times suffered big time.

[@331Grabber]

You should have roll raced in both cars 1:1 ratios. That would be 4th gear in the manual and 7th in the automatic. Both being in 2nd is a huge advantage for the automatic

[@Marbind]

I dont get this test. So they race a manual GT + PP against a base automatic gt? To make things worse one of them questions if the m/t mustang has something wrong 😂😂. Hello, it has 4 more lightning fast shifts to distribute the powerband more effectively. What a waste of time and resources. 🤦🤦🤦

[@brianfeeney3936]

you clearly didn't understand

[@Marbind]

@@brianfeeney3936 You are right about that. Non sense comparison. As soon I saw that it was a m/t vs a/t I stopped watching.

[@Rafael-z3m7k]

Nowadays, Youngbloods, don’t know how to drive stick😂

[@joshreynolds729]

Truth, also they can’t drive these 10 speeds either 🤣 because they make more power than they ever used to. Idk how old you are but the crowd killer meme never existed when cars came stock with less power. A GT used to be 260 hp in the early 2000s. Now 486-500 😂. Truly good times though right. Crazy how good autos have come now. Love manual but those 10r80s do wonders for a small displacement high reving v8 keeping power band. Used to be the manual was better and more fun plus cheaper.

[@Rafael-z3m7k]

Very true, nothing like a nice manual driving down a country road, I work at a dealership and 80 percent of our service porters can’t drive stick, is tech try to teach them when we have a break, so sad they’ll soon be gone

[@thebigguy8306]

🤣So true, for us whose first car was a stick (83 Honda Civic wagon), went to an event with valet parking - big sign NO MANUAL TRANSMISSIONS, the valets

[@Rafael-z3m7k]

@@thebigguy8306 That’s why I’ve kept my 2003 Jetta with 250k that got rear ended and insurance totaled, bought it back for 300.00 and I’m storing it until my kids are old enough to drive, they will be learning stick from the beginning

[@joshreynolds729]

@@thebigguy8306 yeah man I figured it would be a requirement for that to be able to drive anything that doesn’t require a special license.

[@thomasj1026]

3.73 hasnt been a true aggressive gear ratio for years now in the gt. Need 4.10s on the 6 speed to get the most for a factory setup

[@jonascampelo871]

I dont think its just gearing and gear ratios I think the manual Mustang manage horse power and torque in a different way. Its an electronic thing to protect the manual gear box for the long run.

[@MrJohney]

The coyote v8 prefers higher rpm to produce power so the 10 speed would keep the rpm in the happy spot. Same with the f150 it needs higher rpms to tow up hill

[@07wrxtr1]

The wheels on both could be more appealing… I am hoping the whole blacked out wheel fad ends… I like some of the older gun metal finished wheels… $50-$60k… damn

[@djnixmixMTL]

Maybe traction or anti slip control is to blame? My 1972, 350, 375 HP nova, 4 speed was more aggressive and prime...I miss my nova😢

[@palladinos1]

failed to mention the manual is the shitty one you dont get a good one till you get a dark horse spec.... would not buy manual the auto is so goood

[@bobert866]

Finally, someone gets it.

[@bryanwilkinson5408]

Guys, take the cars to a weight station and see what the difference is in weight between the standard Mustang and the Premium with performance pack. You should also take a dark horse against the standard one you used here not that the dark horse is better, but the tranny and gear ratios are different, then take a GT performance pack car with the auto and the base mustang with the auto. I think that will paint the better picture for the comparisons.

[@frankiedeuce801]

And you guys didn't know? When cars went to 8 speeds and higher in the begining of the LAST DECADE (2010s) manuals were the slower option.

[@jeffreykerr1465]

The 24 GT Premium automatic, will beat the manual GT every day of the week and twice on Sunday, I know, I own the automatic.

[@IKnewMickey]

Entertaining video guys. Manuals are fun for sure but there's a reason all the fast brands use other transmissions and You tubers are part of that reason.

[@MikeSmith-ey7ku]

Why I have an old Foxbody manual as well as my 14 auto. Prob getting the 10 speed

[@tilmonr]

Why wasn't both cars either manual or automatic?

[@TheWingmanPro]

Haven’t watched the video but the premise is price and automatic costs $2k more as an add-on option

[@jimfleury6349]

Old man car is the stick. Not the 10 speed

[@norwegianblue2017]

If old men were the only ones that cared about driving fun.

[@Cloud30000]

Old men have come to realize that sticks are great on empty back/bendy roads and race tracks, but suck in any traffic and roads covered in traffic lights where we end up doing 95% of our non-highway driving. On the highway without traffic, you are always in the same gear so it makes no difference. My first 3 vehicles were sticks, but I got sick of constantly playing with the clutch in slow bumper to bumper traffic; even had to raise my seat so I could stretch out my leg to avoid cramping after constant clutch manipulation. I’d like to get an old manual to play with on the weekend, but I will never use one as a daily in traffic again.

[@danieltustison822]

You could find gear where both at same RPM on launch see how goes

[@arkhsm]

The base car is a fair bit LIGHTER, which is by itself worth a tenth or two over a 1/4 mile run !!

[@rpliegos]

Proof that the 10 sp auto is awesome... and for a daily driver in a very high traffic city it is the way to go. I can´t wait to see the same comparison but on a track with twists... I bet here the performance pack car is going to kill the regular car.

[@jtokidjb]

Dumb test, every one knows the 10 speed is quicker.

[@mattjones1378]

The manual needs a driver mod with ydbt or derek baran productions at the wheel and sticky rear tires.

[@johndavis6365]

Sorta stupid since they don't have the transmission. I have a 2024 mustang with the performance package with a manual transmission and would never think about buying the base over it.

[@garyandersontech]

Interesting use of the word binnacle, which refers to a ships' compass housing. A generalized cntext.

[@drags666]

The color of the car that Kase is driving is so nice

[@Cloud30000]

If you want a fast car, buy a corvette or an EV. If you want a fun car, buy a manual mustang or Miata (though you can have just as much fun in an older mustang for significantly less money).

[@93remix]

FOR ONCE, I'M GLAD U GUYS @ TFL DID THIS as far as a head 2 head on what model car you're buying & is it worth it. THX!! Motor Week, CAR & DRIVER, MOTORTREND, ETC... TFL JUST TAUGHT Y'ALL SOMETHING NEW

[@Marbind]

The pros are laughing because real enthusiasts know that a/t are faster than m/t. To make things worse they add a pkg that improves handling but proceed to do acceleration tests. Typical TFL car channel nonsense stuff. 🤭🤦

[@JKerr-iy2jr]

It’s just a mindless macho thing - it’s more fun to drive with a manual and the noise makes a better macho impression. P. T. Barnum said it best.

[@Rick-fe8xn]

Nothing old man about manual, it's a skill set and makes muscle cars fun to drive.

[@dougwatson6406]

I had a 2022 Mach 1 with the 6 speed (loved it) and traded for a 2024 Dark Horse with the auto and it's so much quicker.

[@bobert866]

You seem like you can't manage your finances.

[@dougwatson6406]

@@bobert866 Seriously you don't know me, but I know your kind FO.

[@JohnDoe-xl1ig]

Personally, I think blue one looks better atleast exterior wise. Give blue car the expensive car's interior, and perfect.

[@jeremysoto4596]

According to hundreds of street racing videos the auto is faster up to around 100mph...so for drag racing you want the auto...for high way rolls and top end the manuals apparently put down more powe and are faster after 3rd gear then the auto

[@dougpendleton1266]

Nice job guys!!

[@wyodriver20]

The only thing I don’t like about both of these cars is the iPad slapped on top of the dash look. It looks fragile and like an afterthought. It seems like it wouldn’t take much to figure out how to integrate them.

[@porscheguy09]

The 6 speed manual Mustang GT will never beat a 10 speed automatic GT when both cars have a good launch no matter how good the driver is in the manual car. The automatic puts power down more efficiently and with less loss of momentum between each shift. The manual will always be more fun to drive though.

[@benjaminserino6611]

Manual is the only way for a muscle car to

[@newfie-dean5803]

Sure, if you want to regularly lose.

[@akaslammed3628]

⁠​⁠@@newfie-dean5803there’s a lot of manuals out there that have done records , I have the driven the 10 speed mustang and it’s so boring to drive

[@benjaminserino6611]

@@newfie-dean5803 i mean that depends highly on the year of the car but driving an automatic car just takes the soul out of it I’d rather spend my time rowing gears driving around than be a half second faster driving an auto but yes they generally are faster

[@jimmymorrison3973]

Going is optional, stopping is mandatory. I’ll take the manual and perf pack.

[@davej1212]

motorweek has the 2018 MANual 12.4 in the quarter ? i'm certain you can improve in this time with a set on continental extreme contacts { just purchaced for my 2019 base} T/C off and these babies HOOK, no wheel spin/hop

[@pawg206]

What size ?

[@LICobra]

That's really something how the automatic just walks away from the manual, as technology has reversed the manual vs automatic performance. I for one would still buy a manual over the automatic just for the fun of driving it. These new Mustang prices are getting way out of hand, it's hard to believe the GT performance package is close to what I paid for my GT350.

[@bobert866]

I would buy the slower car to because I'm an idiot just like you.

[@markv78]

You guys need to set up a road course or go to a track with the stig to properly evaluate these trims. Btw where is the stig??

[@IndefiniteGentlemen]

Wait, is tfl doing a drag race that makes sense? Wheeeee!

[@zebgates]

come on, do an apples to apples test... BOTH autos or both manuals... LAME

[@victorbarraza6005]

The base model is lighter. Of course is gonna be faster. That perf pack is built more for road racing not drag. Didnt understand why they were so confused…