Here’s What You Get (And DON'T Get) In a Cheap & Expensive 2025 Ford Explorer!

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@TFLcar
@TFLcar 4 ай бұрын
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@LarryVeblungsnes
@LarryVeblungsnes 2 ай бұрын
I took delivery of our new 2025 Explorer one week ago and it is perfection. 3.0 motor is fantastic. We bought our 2016 Explorer new and put 110,000 miles on it with no issues. Ford does a great job with these vehicles. Ride quality of the Platnum trim is superb!
@gaivoron
@gaivoron 4 ай бұрын
Nothing against TFL but Fords idea of affordable at $50,000 is pretty disgusting.
@saddist1Gtown
@saddist1Gtown 4 ай бұрын
Well, look elsewhere, mate. Andre is speaking relatively...
@MineGames131
@MineGames131 4 ай бұрын
Average new car purchase in the US is 48k.
@gaivoron
@gaivoron 4 ай бұрын
@@MineGames131 along with 6 year financing.
@mcnuggetapple
@mcnuggetapple 4 ай бұрын
@@MineGames131yeah, doesn’t mean those people are smart lol
@mcnuggetapple
@mcnuggetapple 4 ай бұрын
Would be a lot lower if more cars were affordable
@ImYoutubing247
@ImYoutubing247 4 ай бұрын
Expensive vs More Expensive
@JackSmith-qi7dr
@JackSmith-qi7dr 4 ай бұрын
Reviewers slay me with the third row. They say “family car” then clamber into the third row as full size adults and complain. Instead, grab a kid and throw him/her back there. By the time the kids are tall enough to complain, they have what is called a drivers license.
@coffeehouseny
@coffeehouseny 2 ай бұрын
Good review, thanks. The Bench seat is more commonly installed on factory models now and sits 3 to give this year a 7-seat capacity. Split-buckets gives you 6. Blue Cruise is $700/yr. if you take it before the trial expires. $800/yr. if you opt-in afterward. I imagine most people opting out in the Northeast with our road cover in winter months. Nice work mentioning the ST school - most reviews miss that fun tidbit (airfare not included lol). Good comment on the exhaust - my Sport's tips always darkened. Final option available is the painted roof at a $5k hit to the bottom line.
@tjgim
@tjgim 3 ай бұрын
Ford SUV Experience in Asheville, NC was awesome. You’ll also receive black ST badges to replace the red ones. They can not be purchased.
@moneyparhar
@moneyparhar 4 ай бұрын
$50k amd don't even have cooled seats or wireless charger.
@jeffhaddox2239
@jeffhaddox2239 4 ай бұрын
I like everything except the price, but I have that same problem at the grocery store, restaurants, and gas stations. 💸💸💸💸
@nothingtoseaheardammit
@nothingtoseaheardammit 4 ай бұрын
As a tall person, I found the 6th gen explorers that I've rented to have not nearly enough thigh support - even in the ST trim.
@thebagnechannel3183
@thebagnechannel3183 4 ай бұрын
We have a 2020 ST and it’s a beautiful vehicle with solid performance. However, reliability and our dealership experience have been abysmal. I hope Ford devoted time to making these such that they don’t fall apart.
@b22chris
@b22chris 4 ай бұрын
What problems have you had with the vehicle
@shaunmathewsam585
@shaunmathewsam585 4 ай бұрын
Bro ask me what not problem are there on my ST every module is connected to safety features even traction. My seat heat module became bad and ask me what type of warning was not on the dash. But still performance I love it but reliability wise should have to thing a bit
@thebagnechannel3183
@thebagnechannel3183 4 ай бұрын
@@b22chris The driver's side seat controls broke, the leather on both front seats came apart and the dealer would just tuck it in, it had an expensive transmission issue, one of the power folding seats became stuck, an exhaust mount broke, it has had numerous electronic, engine, and suspension issues, etc. The dealer keeps saying they fix things but don't. We bought one of the first ones and the quality has been terrible.
@b22chris
@b22chris 4 ай бұрын
@@thebagnechannel3183that’s a major headache brother. I’ll steer clear of fords and stick to my Toyotas. Good luck and hope you don’t have any further troubles
@insainllama
@insainllama 4 ай бұрын
Hopefully the issues you had were first model year problems and have been ironed out over the last few years.
@Deadwood1919
@Deadwood1919 2 ай бұрын
The funny part is the 'sells a lot, 210k a year' - Ford killed the Fusion and Focus b/c they 'did not sell well'. Fusion sold 210k the year they announced the car deaths, the Focus a little lower until its cancellation reported.
@nothingtoseaheardammit
@nothingtoseaheardammit 4 ай бұрын
Ditch the Exporer. Give us the Ford Everest.
@theinsomniac100
@theinsomniac100 4 ай бұрын
Honestly I think we need both kind of like Toyota has the Highlander and the 4Runner
@chikidd24
@chikidd24 4 ай бұрын
Ditch your mother
@yissibiiyte
@yissibiiyte 4 ай бұрын
Considering how poor Ranger sales are in the US, it's SUV version probably wouldn't do well either
@seve2190
@seve2190 4 ай бұрын
It’s a no brainer.. I think the Everest would sell like hotcakes
@WhaddupImJohn
@WhaddupImJohn 4 ай бұрын
@@yissibiiytepeople are obsessed with SUVs in the US
@RANDsreviews
@RANDsreviews 4 ай бұрын
Oh thanks for showing us the exhaust pipe! That’s really smart! Hopefully that’s just not a gimmick they’re telling you works.. my exhaust pipes always get dirty. Maybe Chevrolet could learn a few things or two.
@msokes9
@msokes9 4 ай бұрын
I picked up a 2023 ST recently. Absolutely love it but I hope the reliability and craftsmanship on some areas of the vehicle specifically the interior has improved with this model year. It has already been to the dealer for the 3rd with the SYNC screen glitching out from time to time and they can’t seem to fix the problem completely. I personally do not like the 2025 ST with the lack of a black wheel option and the less aggressive front end. However, it looks like the interior has been improved in many areas which is great to see. The perfect Explorer would be the previous exterior styling with the 25 interior imo.
@walterd7331
@walterd7331 4 ай бұрын
Why not compare used versus new? That is the one relevant comparison you could’ve done…
4 ай бұрын
300 HP in the base 4 Cylinder engine is impressive.
@beachbumis
@beachbumis 4 ай бұрын
I ordered an Active trim when the order books opened. The Premium options were tempting, but the price was not.
@stonepa
@stonepa 4 ай бұрын
Good video. I still think the pinnacle of the Ford Explorer was achieve in 1992 with the true 4WD Eddie Bauer edition. Those things ran forever (best friend is still daily driving the one he bought new in 1992), had real 4WD, were comfortable, and were affordable. These new Explorers just aren’t the same level of capability.
@frederickwoodard9551
@frederickwoodard9551 4 ай бұрын
That is why I hang on to 15-year old vehicles. 🙂
4 ай бұрын
Because it's all you can afford.
@Sl0thTeam6
@Sl0thTeam6 4 ай бұрын
I can afford to buy both of these vehicles. I’ve found significant peace in continuing to drive our 170K mile Honda odyssey because it’s paid off. Life after car payments is so much better than having a nice debt weight
@frederickwoodard9551
@frederickwoodard9551 4 ай бұрын
Considering I am on public assistance and I am not employed yet. 🙂
4 ай бұрын
@@Sl0thTeam6If you really could afford it you would have no debt after buying a new car. Since you can't afford it you make up excuses.
@Sl0thTeam6
@Sl0thTeam6 4 ай бұрын
@Kyle Nelson No I was saying I could afford to finance either of them. I’d rather NOT buy any of these hyper inflated priced cars and throw myself INTO debt for them. It’s much nicer having no car payment. I’ve grown to a point where cars get me from A to B. Would rather spend that money traveling what my wife and kids, not paying for a driveway princess to keep up with the Jones’.
@chiconrita2835
@chiconrita2835 2 ай бұрын
Thank you for the comparison contents for Active vs ST line that I’m considering for.
@Himsofinee
@Himsofinee 4 ай бұрын
That base model looks kinda nice ngl 😅!
@wthutch7882
@wthutch7882 4 ай бұрын
I just don't understand how some features are prioritized. 41+ thousand for the "base" with heated seats, pano sunroof, 20in rims, etc. but no dimming mirror?
@LetMeCook86
@LetMeCook86 4 ай бұрын
And no turn signals in the side mirrors. Looks so cheap!
@insainllama
@insainllama 4 ай бұрын
I’m hoping that the “base” model that they showed was just not optioned well.
@insainllama
@insainllama 4 ай бұрын
It seems like they optioned it to have aesthetic features vs more functional ones so that it would look good at the press event.
@gideonighodalo3476
@gideonighodalo3476 3 ай бұрын
I appreciate that the base one is truly amazing and nice 🙂
@jcollins1305
@jcollins1305 4 ай бұрын
The rims on the ST are awesome though!
@Olddahg
@Olddahg 4 ай бұрын
Never see these things, except for the local fuzz
@JackSmith-qi7dr
@JackSmith-qi7dr 4 ай бұрын
Andre: that is not “kind of a soundbar” but rather is a soundbar for the upgraded B and O stereo system.
@rpres007
@rpres007 4 ай бұрын
Pretty sure that exhaust change was due to the exhaust gasses coming back in the cabin.
@cl5163
@cl5163 4 ай бұрын
That was mostly on police interceptors
@Suction_
@Suction_ 4 ай бұрын
Family friends had 2 of these, only because one was bought back under lemon law. 2nd one is giving them issues also. Ford may do ok with their trucks, but they need to really put alot more effort in their suvs if they're going to continue not selling cars and asking these insane prices Granger warranty ad was also ironic lol
@brucebourgoin6834
@brucebourgoin6834 4 ай бұрын
Paying for Blue Cruise is Stoopid. Should be free for as long as you own the vehicle. That goes for all Ford vehicles.
@thestrange_1
@thestrange_1 4 ай бұрын
I think we can thank Tesla for that. Best I can remember, it was them who pioneered the "pay a subscription to use features your car was built with" model.
@benjaminbrown7127
@benjaminbrown7127 4 ай бұрын
Teslas don’t have self driving. You have to pay for it. Know your stuff before you start saying that crap
@thestrange_1
@thestrange_1 4 ай бұрын
@@benjaminbrown7127 I'm honestly not sure who you're replying to with your comment, youtube's comment section often displays weird for me so I may be unable to see the comment to which you're referring. From my perspective, the original poster never mentioned Tesla or full self driving. I mentioned Tesla in my comment where I said I thought they pioneered the practice of charging subscriptions to use features the car was built with (like FSD or autopilot). So I'm honestly confused as to who you think is saying "crap" where they need to "know their stuff" first.
@wentworthharris3120
@wentworthharris3120 3 ай бұрын
Agree 100%
@Eric_Olsen
@Eric_Olsen 3 ай бұрын
Blue Cruise or booze cruise as i like to call it.
@sander16v11
@sander16v11 3 ай бұрын
I prefer the sleeker headlight and grill integration of the pre face lift
@simonbrunet5605
@simonbrunet5605 2 ай бұрын
They should put bare bone one 5 seat no bling bling at 30k. Like a police pack but available to people. No center console bench seat.
@waynewallace2061
@waynewallace2061 4 ай бұрын
A 2 row configuration would be desirable for me.
@t436
@t436 4 ай бұрын
Police ones, good luck getting it new and not abused.
@Jay-bw3fl
@Jay-bw3fl 4 ай бұрын
This new trend of cloth on the dash has got to stop.
@Kahless00
@Kahless00 4 ай бұрын
Shoot if it came with two kayaks that would be a nice bonus for me. And with the price of kayaks now it would save me a lot.
@gregpacot8888
@gregpacot8888 4 ай бұрын
I'm in love the explorers
@PDLM1221
@PDLM1221 4 ай бұрын
I hope there is no strike like when they came out with the current model , Covid , autoworkers strike the Explores were put togeather in various factories causing a terrible roll out , I hope they have no problems during the refresh
@ChicagoBob123
@ChicagoBob123 4 ай бұрын
Hey great news repos are up by 23%. Couldn't be the price of these cars?
@stuna101a
@stuna101a 4 ай бұрын
I have a 2020 Explorer ST and it has more features than the new model, massaging seats for one. The car with just a tune is one of the fastest cars I’ve ever owned. But the dealership experience is abhorrent. At 30,000 miles mechanical issues that should’ve been present at about 80 or 90,000 miles are needing attention. The quality is so bad compared to most Japanese vehicles. Everything from mysterious electrical gremlins that are very hard to diagnose. Suspension noises that Ford itself can’t pinpoint the issue on. For almost $65k you can get a mid trim Lexus GX that is 10 times the vehicle.
@kymberleight.curtis6796
@kymberleight.curtis6796 2 ай бұрын
In the ST why is there the bar over the engine? Is that security?
@robertmurdock7530
@robertmurdock7530 6 күн бұрын
It's a strut tower brace
@jasonc7503
@jasonc7503 4 ай бұрын
40K is insane for a base model. I mean can't you option it without giant screen and crap? Save money?
@4wd_thinking911
@4wd_thinking911 4 ай бұрын
my honest take on it is that its super nice and look very refined but my mom has a 2020 xlt 4wd with the comfort package and the $500 white paint and the msrp with everything is 42K and it has heated front and REAR seats and a heated steering wheel but this active with the same package or similar package priced around 50K doesnt even have rear heated seats so idk.
@cup_and_cone
@cup_and_cone 4 ай бұрын
The entire front end looks like the previous generation GMC Acadia...
@brucebourgoin6834
@brucebourgoin6834 4 ай бұрын
Need the struts for the hood.
@stevekniess3665
@stevekniess3665 4 ай бұрын
They have to get rid of that chime
@jmc6000
@jmc6000 4 ай бұрын
Why?
@stevekniess3665
@stevekniess3665 4 ай бұрын
@@jmc6000 personal preference, I don't like it
@rhydynamic8306
@rhydynamic8306 4 ай бұрын
@@stevekniess3665You can ask the dealership to disable it for you. That’s what I did
@msokes9
@msokes9 4 ай бұрын
I used to hate it but I like it now
@seve2190
@seve2190 4 ай бұрын
Or at least update it. That chime has been around for about 15 years now
@tylerconnely7477
@tylerconnely7477 4 ай бұрын
But did they fix the transmission and electrical issues🤔
@ksolius1906
@ksolius1906 4 ай бұрын
it would be nice to have climate control right under the screen as Physical controls (in case the screen is acting out for any reason), and also quick easy press without looking, and not needing to look at or focus on the screen... .... also, I'm reading that Ford Digital Experience requires a monthly fee? Does that include Apple CarPlay or Android Auto? Do we have to pay a monthly fee to have access to our Google Maps / Apple Maps from our phone, or the vehicle's Navigation System ?
@timbo1687
@timbo1687 3 күн бұрын
No their app and stuff is free to use. start the car, unlock, etc. The digital experience is live traffic updates, weather, etc built into the car
@bk27117
@bk27117 4 ай бұрын
Sorry to see the King Ranch and Timberline trims not available
@MineGames131
@MineGames131 4 ай бұрын
I would expect those to arrive in 6 months or so. Similar to how raptors are released.
@brucebourgoin6834
@brucebourgoin6834 4 ай бұрын
Ford needs to mark the rear hatch button better.
@aaronwilson5978
@aaronwilson5978 4 ай бұрын
Fords are better than GM's any fay if the weekthe fit and finsish in the fords is just so much better
@r5LgxTbQ
@r5LgxTbQ 4 ай бұрын
a lot nicer than the "Explorer" EV
@rpres007
@rpres007 4 ай бұрын
But does it still honk when you leave it running and get out with key in your pocket??
@Memento-_-Mori-_-982
@Memento-_-Mori-_-982 2 ай бұрын
I hate that option
@weeklywash
@weeklywash 4 ай бұрын
Ford offers a real exhaust through their Ford Performance
@CoolTatts
@CoolTatts 4 ай бұрын
Love my 2022 Ford Edge Titanium Elite. I'm not ready for a three row, and I hope the successor to the Edge is as good as the 2022. Maybe even all electric too 😊 Our dealership experience has been very good for the past two years. We go to Meadowvale Ford (Ontario, Canada) but I bought a full service package when I got the car so I just drop off the keys and then drive away afterwards. Full 5 year warranty and service included so no surprise service costs. No issues thus far 👌
@Mark-ws5zl
@Mark-ws5zl 4 ай бұрын
I like the car on the left
@davidlusk4350
@davidlusk4350 4 ай бұрын
😊😊 Bring back body on frame and Eddie Bauer!!!!! I'll keep my new 4 runner , but these are pretty decent riding Lil cars. But getting pricy, ...
@brucebourgoin6834
@brucebourgoin6834 4 ай бұрын
Ford, most people don't want Easter eggs it just adds to the cost of the vehicle.
4 ай бұрын
It's incorporated into the mold tooling, not an add on.
@ryansellers2581
@ryansellers2581 4 ай бұрын
$1600 for destination?!? Do they drop them with parachute out of a C-17 from China?
@wentworthharris3120
@wentworthharris3120 3 ай бұрын
The destination fee is too high
@SiriasisOFFICIAL
@SiriasisOFFICIAL 4 ай бұрын
I miss the day when explorer was $25k
@kevinbarry71
@kevinbarry71 4 ай бұрын
Carrying a couple of kayaks; what will I do with all that capability
@paitis14
@paitis14 4 ай бұрын
Ford installed those yakima Jetstream crossbars on backwards...
@VARITHMS
@VARITHMS 4 ай бұрын
We had a 2020 limited, loaded and paid 44k.
@t436
@t436 4 ай бұрын
Destination charges are insane, let me fly out and drive my new car from where you built it.
@michaelglazer6846
@michaelglazer6846 4 ай бұрын
For 60k get a Lexus
@Vultite
@Vultite 4 ай бұрын
Does a front license plate block the front sensors?
@aaronwilson5978
@aaronwilson5978 4 ай бұрын
What about the Timberline?
@LetMeCook86
@LetMeCook86 4 ай бұрын
Discontinued
@ChicagoBob123
@ChicagoBob123 4 ай бұрын
Why are all cars about double what they were 3 years ago?
@Fabulousprofound168
@Fabulousprofound168 4 ай бұрын
The Explorer only still exists because of the Police Utility variant? Otherwise I rarely see these on the road where I’m from…
@chikidd24
@chikidd24 4 ай бұрын
I see explorers everywhere I travel
@trenton737
@trenton737 4 ай бұрын
Well you're delusional. Police versions make up less than ¼ of Explorer sales figures.
@t436
@t436 4 ай бұрын
We have so many here, only the black ones get people driving 28 in a 35 for no reason. We also have an ungodly amount of wagoneers here.
@dorindroid
@dorindroid 3 ай бұрын
The roof rack rails are installed backwards 🤣
@gaivoron
@gaivoron 4 ай бұрын
Why is Andre scatter brain today? He is usually on point with facts.
@TimeMariner
@TimeMariner 4 ай бұрын
Roman threatened to fire him.
@ohiohero44
@ohiohero44 4 ай бұрын
We paid 31k for a new '18 Explorer, proces sure have changed
@davidlusk4350
@davidlusk4350 4 ай бұрын
It's awful how they jacked up prices. What trim did you get? I used to loved them in the 90s and early 00s.
@ClearwaterChad
@ClearwaterChad 4 ай бұрын
I'll stick with my 2019 GLC 300 my screen isn't that great but paid way less slightly used and own it.
@mkrzyzak
@mkrzyzak Ай бұрын
No bench in st?
@Memento-_-Mori-_-982
@Memento-_-Mori-_-982 2 ай бұрын
We don't get a Timberline version, that's what we don't get.
@NWI_Steel
@NWI_Steel 4 ай бұрын
Headlights and grill look like the outgoing GMC acadia
@chikidd24
@chikidd24 4 ай бұрын
No it doesn't
@agony5344
@agony5344 4 ай бұрын
If only we got the chinese verison
@cup_and_cone
@cup_and_cone 4 ай бұрын
I just commented this... definitely looks like the older Acadia.
4 ай бұрын
Not even close.
@thepinkdiamonds8370
@thepinkdiamonds8370 4 ай бұрын
No temperature gauge?
@leoredhook5916
@leoredhook5916 4 ай бұрын
I love this channel
@spartanchirho
@spartanchirho 4 ай бұрын
Everybody see Andre's house!! Tfl is making bank!!!!!!!! His boat must already be docked at the lake house.
@CateraMV6
@CateraMV6 4 ай бұрын
Look at the RED ST, At the 5:28 mark look at that windshield alignment to the roof, terrific job absolutely unacceptable. What a pile of Junk.
4 ай бұрын
Well done Andre.
@t436
@t436 4 ай бұрын
$50K for a 4 cyl. nope.
@JLUOffRoad
@JLUOffRoad 4 ай бұрын
@2:20 Andre, I am noticing that you developed this weird (Lip-smacking) every time you catch your breath, I am not trying to be rude I like your reviews but it is very annoying to listen.
@TimeMariner
@TimeMariner 4 ай бұрын
He just had his wisdom teeth pulled hours before this shoot. Probably experiencing dry mouth.
@synthwatch2519
@synthwatch2519 3 ай бұрын
All that money and you get a prop rod to keep your hood up 😂😂😂
@1FiftyOverland
@1FiftyOverland 4 ай бұрын
Explorers are SO fun on a track!
@EEdrives
@EEdrives 2 ай бұрын
Looking at new Ford (as well as Stellantis and some GM) products, I can't help but feel like these are just disposable cars after 2-3 years of use. Reminds me of a smartphone manufacturing business model. They are following European car manufacturers, unfortunately :( P.S. sad to see Ford cheaping out on every detail. No gas struts for the hood in $50k+ vehicle? Reflector LED headlights instead of smart matrix lens (which even VW has) or just normal lens at least? No heated windshields for cold regions? No headlight washers (people from Canada and other northern countries of the world understand). Meh. Interestingly though, Jeep Grand Cherokee doesn't feel so cheap at all at first glance at least. Although it is not perfect as well, honestly, I would prefer that one, probably. Andrey, are you planning to compare Explorer vs Grand Cherokee? @TFLcar
@mikefalle7910
@mikefalle7910 4 ай бұрын
No brake controller option. Why didn't they just rate it for 2000LBs , big mistake
@denisilyayev1878
@denisilyayev1878 4 ай бұрын
overpriced by 10k on both.
@LetMeCook86
@LetMeCook86 4 ай бұрын
Count how many times Andre slaps his thighs and/or claps his hands.
@TimeMariner
@TimeMariner 4 ай бұрын
He slurs a lot, too. I thinks he's tipsy.
@dipin2
@dipin2 2 ай бұрын
How is the VW ATLAS compared to this??
@Eric_Olsen
@Eric_Olsen 3 ай бұрын
Things you don’t get. Cheap: reliability, expensive:reliability, cheap: affordability, expensive: affordability
@datnguyen1615
@datnguyen1615 4 ай бұрын
For me the best Explore is mid 90's..2025 Explore seems come back with the good oldies car. ST seems good performance but not define products with the price.. lousy stitches on the seats, details of plastic contours are so rough and cheap compare to Lexus... well I may not get how the great name Explorer but quality like KIA.
@dmegahan
@dmegahan 4 ай бұрын
Timberline?
@kevinkollmansberger9229
@kevinkollmansberger9229 4 ай бұрын
Does the 4wd versions have a low range?
@ctgblue
@ctgblue 4 ай бұрын
none of the SUV models have this, only the trucks
@davidlusk4350
@davidlusk4350 4 ай бұрын
4 runner has a true transfer case. Rest is part time all wheel drive. If you don't off road really this is all you need. Ask other car based suv 3 rows share the same design in that system.
@t436
@t436 4 ай бұрын
If it's like my 19, the best you get at "low range" is sand mode.
@DaleWilly
@DaleWilly 4 ай бұрын
kia is trash, that is why it is cheaper; subpar
@LetMeCook86
@LetMeCook86 4 ай бұрын
$1600 destination? Get real FORD! It doesn’t cost that much to ship from Chicago!
@tumacdanggerry8372
@tumacdanggerry8372 3 ай бұрын
how about if open directly buy in the manufacturer not now to the dealer because its very expensive 😂😊😊
@LetMeCook86
@LetMeCook86 4 ай бұрын
HEY FORD, you blew it with no turn signals in the side mirrors! 👎
@jmc6000
@jmc6000 4 ай бұрын
It pays to get the base model so much so I have that one on order!
@cpatton-uo1il
@cpatton-uo1il 4 ай бұрын
The middle class is so screwed. When will TFL recognize theese prices are NOT cheap or affordable. Lol its so sad
@Grantly420
@Grantly420 4 ай бұрын
Luxury trim with the most efficient engine please. I'm fine with under 200hp. No turbos.
@t436
@t436 4 ай бұрын
You don't want under 200 in these bricks. If you are by yourself maybe but using all the seats you run out of steam quickly. a 4cyl in these should be criminal.
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