Camry vs Accord | The Forever Sedans Face Off

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savagegeese

savagegeese

Күн бұрын

We compare the new 2025 Toyota Camry vs the 2024 Honda Accord. These hybrid sedans bring some of the best features and technology for an affordable price. We discuss engineering, safety, mechanical, and driving character. In a world of SUVs would you choose these over, Rav4, Mazda CX5, Honda, CRV, and Ford Bronco Sport?
We used the Bridgestone Potenza Sport AS as our Spec Tire:
www.bridgestonetire.com/tire/...
#cars #business #technology
Index:
00:00 Intro
00:49 Interior and Exterior Camry
8:31 Camry Audio Testing
8:53 Interior and Exterior Accord
13:54 Accord Audio Testing
15:44 Mechanicals Camry
16:54 Camry Engine and Hybrid Explained
22:05 Accord Mechanicals
22:42 Accord Body Updates and NVH
24:15 Spec Bridgeston Potenza Sport AS
25:06 Accord Engine and Hybrid System
27:53 Driving Impressions Camry
34:46 Driving Impressions Accord
43:45 Final Thoughts

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@dragospahontu
@dragospahontu 7 күн бұрын
All the dads gathered around to watch this showoff.
@AW-gj4ji
@AW-gj4ji 7 күн бұрын
If the ES was included, then the Grandpas would be here too!
@tototronic2
@tototronic2 7 күн бұрын
It's called a "Showdown" not a "Showoff"!
@Portland2006
@Portland2006 7 күн бұрын
Personally, I'm too aroused by the Civic Hybrid to pay much attention.
@dragoniv
@dragoniv 7 күн бұрын
Bought a four door Pontiac G8 as a dad. Grandpa here went for the Accord Hybrid.
@dragospahontu
@dragospahontu 7 күн бұрын
@@dragoniv safe choice, are they gonna burry him in the Accord?
@Benisfunny
@Benisfunny 7 күн бұрын
"The Camry has a physical door pull. No fi- fiddle fuckin' around with that." Perfectly said.
@nateavery2875
@nateavery2875 7 күн бұрын
👍
@blueflameSM
@blueflameSM 7 күн бұрын
The one thing about some new Lexus models, the door handles. Fixing something that wasn't broken, all these buttons and whatnot to unlock/open the door is just so niche.
@NelsonGasparDrives
@NelsonGasparDrives 7 күн бұрын
nothing worse in the auto biz than that dang fiddle-fuckin'
@Beer_Dad1975
@Beer_Dad1975 6 күн бұрын
@@blueflameSM Lexus aren't what they used to be, that's for sure - they used to have a lot of quite distinct models - now they are almost all just reworked Toyotas, like Genesys or Acura.
@angelgjr1999
@angelgjr1999 6 күн бұрын
Love Toyota because they keep it basic.
@QLPJosh
@QLPJosh 7 күн бұрын
Thank you for touching base on the privacy and data collection within the infotainment. People don't take it as seriously as it should.
@JohnyMcNeal
@JohnyMcNeal 7 күн бұрын
Now they're installing cameras (e class for example) 😂
@nkenchington6575
@nkenchington6575 7 күн бұрын
touching base?! fucking hell, man.
@aygwm
@aygwm 7 күн бұрын
Touch! Base!
@nateavery2875
@nateavery2875 7 күн бұрын
Not like you have a real choice. Opt out and get reduced or no features. These companies can't help themselves. They force you into data submission.
@ADUSN
@ADUSN 7 күн бұрын
"touch base" I agree with you but the corporate talk is revolting
@josecazarez9541
@josecazarez9541 7 күн бұрын
I know im getting old when I’m more excited for this show off than a sports car show off lmao
@realbeetlejuice
@realbeetlejuice 6 күн бұрын
+1. But it's sad af there are no more performance variants anymore :(
@blastercorps
@blastercorps 5 күн бұрын
Because this is real. Let's be honest, few if any of us are getting a supercar. A ton of us are getting one of these.
@billyracks
@billyracks 5 күн бұрын
it's just the result of having a lack of taste
@Angel7black
@Angel7black 4 күн бұрын
@@blastercorpsyou dont need a super car. I have a 2013 V6 mustang with twin turbos pushing around 500 hp, sold my project new edge GT, have a mk iii supra. Never spent more than 40K for a car. Tbf my wife has sedan and honda itself, but its a newer 2024 civic SI she replaced her old GTI with. Point is you really don’t need to give up on fun cara just cause youre old, we’re both in our 30’s and while yeah thats not that old we sure as shit arent that young either. Her dad is in his 60’s and he drives an F250 and and one of the cleanest Datsuns ive ever seen in person. What you drive says a lot about you, but not necessarily that youre old. When i see somebody driving a new basic ass camry or accord i dont think “that person is old” i think “that person probably doesnt really care much for cars and but wants something nice, practical and reliable”. And that’s fine, but thats a personal taste interests thing than it is age thing. Friends been driving camrys since we were in high school
@a.bishop615
@a.bishop615 4 күн бұрын
@@billyracks I’d bet my entire savings that your favorite car brand is German
@Masterguy635
@Masterguy635 7 күн бұрын
This is my C8 Corvette vs MKV Supra moment.
@anydaynow01
@anydaynow01 7 күн бұрын
You mean the MKI Zupra? It may be fast, but it's 99% a bottom of the line BMW badge swapped by the Toyota bean counters and advertising department. 🤣 It's even made in Austria on the same assembly line as the BMW Z4.
@guycha0s380
@guycha0s380 7 күн бұрын
​@@anydaynow01 🤡 Bros living in 2000s
@user-vx7vi3vq1c
@user-vx7vi3vq1c 7 күн бұрын
@@anydaynow01And that’s why it’s a great car. The B58 is better than anything in the old Supras.
@theoyansen8267
@theoyansen8267 7 күн бұрын
​@anydaynow01 you're getting a BMW for a discount. Why would you be mad?
@eppyz
@eppyz 7 күн бұрын
You have too much time on your hands😂
@jametime41
@jametime41 7 күн бұрын
bursted out laughing at work when jack almost understeered off the road on his first turn good stuff
@wiryantirta
@wiryantirta 6 күн бұрын
and the fact that the chocolate bit on his chocoloate long johns hasn't touched his shirt or any part of the car interior
@yanboa
@yanboa 7 күн бұрын
Thanks for being real pros and doing regular cars, guys!!
@realbeetlejuice
@realbeetlejuice 6 күн бұрын
this is just insane. this is better quality/production than anything we would have got even on TV produced and made by a big company. savagegeese is still incredibly underrated, this channel should have millions of subs by now. 10/10
@harry2492
@harry2492 7 күн бұрын
Love that you went the extra mile and put them on the same tires. I think this is one of the first reviews I've seen that and really think it adds to a good comparison. Respect.
@realbeetlejuice
@realbeetlejuice 6 күн бұрын
forget the tires... they're going in depth on literally e-v-e-r-y-t-h-i-n-gggggggggggggggggggggggggggg
@lorenschwiderski
@lorenschwiderski 5 күн бұрын
New tires should be broken in before hard cornering. Just a thought.
@kingair433
@kingair433 5 күн бұрын
It's just a creative way to include their sponsor. In reality, since those are not the tires that come with either car, it greatly changes the review of the actual car that people are buying.
@realbeetlejuice
@realbeetlejuice 5 күн бұрын
@@kingair433 good point tbh.
@harry2492
@harry2492 5 күн бұрын
@@kingair433I mean, you have a point. But tires change so much about the vehicle with regards to noise, ride, smoothness, etc that I’d rather the same car be compared on the same tire than having them on different ones and pretending that they have nothing to do with any driving characteristics. It’s not like most of us change the tires within 20-40 thousand miles anyway.
@noname-gp6hk
@noname-gp6hk 6 күн бұрын
It's sad that the biggest selling point for me is actual physical knobs and switches.
@sk-un5jq
@sk-un5jq 4 күн бұрын
That and quietness/refinement are the clinchers for me. I'd get the Accord and if I lived in a cold weather state I'd get the CRV hybrid, which is way more refined than the rattly ass RAV4.
@user-of5wd8zr3e
@user-of5wd8zr3e 7 күн бұрын
AWD for the Camry tips the scales for me. And will likely be the difference maker for a lot of folks in northern climates.
@Hallowsaw
@Hallowsaw 7 күн бұрын
Why spend 40k on an awd xle when you can get a awd crown signia for 45k
@DavidSimpsonJr973
@DavidSimpsonJr973 7 күн бұрын
Simply put, car purchases are rarely all about rationality. Especially when most ppl lease. ​@@Hallowsaw
@dustinjohnston2241
@dustinjohnston2241 7 күн бұрын
@@Hallowsaw in canada an AWD XLE camry starts at $48,500 and a crown base model starts at $58,000, At that point just upgrade to a Lexus. The Crown seems pointless
@anydaynow01
@anydaynow01 7 күн бұрын
@@dustinjohnston2241 Agreed, the Crown makes about as much sense as the Maxima did for Nissan, and any Buick does for GM.
@nateTrh
@nateTrh 7 күн бұрын
​@Hallowsaw Or just get an LE or SE awd for much less. If you want luxury, then it makes sense to grab a Venza or Crown Signia but if you just need usable and awd, you can't really beat the value of the lower Toyota trims. The heated seat and steering wheel package is also pretty cheap.
@Hallowsaw
@Hallowsaw 7 күн бұрын
"You can get the JBL on the lower trims" yeah its a 4k package that makes it cost more than the base upper trim
@jxmar_
@jxmar_ 7 күн бұрын
And you actually can’t get the JBL sound system on the base models. You can only get the 12.3 inch screen on the SE, that doesn’t come w the JBL.
@anlam1044
@anlam1044 7 күн бұрын
just get base model and change out the speakers, it'll sound 10x better than stock JBL
@kylelangley8818
@kylelangley8818 7 күн бұрын
Ehh, $4K financed over 72months. I’d take better audio over the life of a boring car any day.
@morebrainmoregains3234
@morebrainmoregains3234 7 күн бұрын
@@kylelangley8818 poor financial decision making
@Mark-eu6mc
@Mark-eu6mc 6 күн бұрын
@@kylelangley8818financed over 72 months at 6.99% APR lmao. You military?
@bigbunnyboi
@bigbunnyboi 6 күн бұрын
Two dads enjyong their midlife crisis on two of the most reliable dad sedans. Great to watch this!
@josefgordon7712
@josefgordon7712 7 күн бұрын
Camry LE with AWD still gets like 50 mpg and has more tire for a nicer ride. Such a ridiculously great value. Really get my “Dad” blood racing 🥵
@njad3
@njad3 6 күн бұрын
Doesn’t matter, get an accord instead
@Courtesyflush52
@Courtesyflush52 6 күн бұрын
@@njad3the Camry just has a better set of features with the better hybrid system and the AWD
@shaalis
@shaalis 6 күн бұрын
no way does it get 50mpg. More like 44-45. at best.
@glassrockpurple154
@glassrockpurple154 6 күн бұрын
@@shaalis I have a 2021 LE Camry hybrid FWD and it is currently getting 52-53 mpg with me beating on it and driving 85mph
@rallysauruswrex
@rallysauruswrex 6 күн бұрын
@@shaalis it does actually. I just took one out for a 2 hr drive and it was easily getting 49-51 mpg driving normally
@klyded8523
@klyded8523 6 күн бұрын
I came here for serious business, but I shot milk out my nose when he pulled out the second chocolate long John 🤣🤣
@marshmellow3110
@marshmellow3110 7 күн бұрын
Y’all are the best. Great video. Let’s see a comparison video with ten year old models with over 200k miles. That’s what Merica truly needs.
@grubbp
@grubbp 7 күн бұрын
Amen!
@SilverScarletSpider
@SilverScarletSpider 5 күн бұрын
2012 Toyota Camry V6 vs 2012 Honda Accord V6 videos in 2024 would make this channel goated
@paulhenry913
@paulhenry913 7 күн бұрын
The Accord has always had a edginess to it and IMO it doesn't disappoint in the hybrid version. I really like Honda's new hybrid setup. As Jack pointed out cant go wrong with either choice but I would lean towards the Accord
@ibrahimbashir6634
@ibrahimbashir6634 7 күн бұрын
Junk
@cod4r
@cod4r 6 күн бұрын
I would go with the most generations.
@glassrockpurple154
@glassrockpurple154 6 күн бұрын
“edginess” meaning fake shift sounds and being much slower than a Camry especially when you get to higher speeds.
@paulhenry913
@paulhenry913 6 күн бұрын
@@glassrockpurple154 it also means no debris in the engine
@glassrockpurple154
@glassrockpurple154 6 күн бұрын
@@paulhenry913 LOL Toyota constantly ranks more reliable than Honda. That Accords “transmission” has clutches that will go bad long before the Toyota’s planetary gearset cvt.
@augustortiz
@augustortiz 7 күн бұрын
True performance machines in their new sleek bodywork. A duel for the ages.
@mattspeer01
@mattspeer01 7 күн бұрын
Performance 😂
@joshgts9675
@joshgts9675 7 күн бұрын
I know when I hear Atkinson Cycle it means the vehicle is a serious performance machine.
@sachinnair91
@sachinnair91 7 күн бұрын
when I think of performance, I think of a 2024 Mustang Ecoboost, not these two family sedans
@augustortiz
@augustortiz 7 күн бұрын
@@sachinnair91 umm, thats a supercar.. These are high performance family sedans.
@truckercowboyed2638
@truckercowboyed2638 7 күн бұрын
​@@augustortiza mustang is a super car????? 😂
@mulamulelilumadi4717
@mulamulelilumadi4717 7 күн бұрын
The side profile of the Accord looks like a large sportback Audi sedan
@idanceforpennies281
@idanceforpennies281 6 күн бұрын
Camry. More power, better fuel economy, better interior, spare tyre and 4WD.
@angelgjr1999
@angelgjr1999 6 күн бұрын
Yeah the accord is not as good. If you want Honda then just get the civic
@idanceforpennies281
@idanceforpennies281 6 күн бұрын
@@angelgjr1999 In its class the Civic is more competitive, it's somewhat bigger for example than it's rivals and rides/handles very well.
@paulh6517
@paulh6517 5 күн бұрын
The interior of the Honda gets a "D" for dour, dark and drab. For me its the interior of the Camry and the nicer audio system that wins me over. Also using a Linux info system is less likely to share driving information than a google based system. I am sure google would not mind selling your driver info to your insurance company as well.
@CalvinHikes
@CalvinHikes 2 күн бұрын
But it's not a honda.
@LlyleHunter
@LlyleHunter Күн бұрын
If you keep your cars there’s no comparison. The Camry is made to last and run much longer without giving the owners any trouble whatsoever while the Accords aren’t what they were in the 1990s and before. They’ve become delicate little flowers and it shows up around four years old and then you have to start pumping money into them like European cars. I had a very rude awakening from Honda and switched. I don’t have the time to bring cars in. I just don’t deal with it.
@demariousbonner7037
@demariousbonner7037 7 күн бұрын
Please talk about date collection more often in your reviews. It’s much appreciated.
@johngonzalez851
@johngonzalez851 7 күн бұрын
Great review as always guys. Btw, in terms of advertised vs actual mileage, my 23 Accord Hybrid blows past 50mpg every tank year round surpassing the advertised mileage. Living in the NY/NJ area i get a pretty good mix of driving conditions.
@matthewshultz8762
@matthewshultz8762 6 күн бұрын
I'm glad the newer gen is getting better mileage. My 2019 hybrid would go up to about 42/45 mpg at most. But, on the lower end it would never get below 36, even when towing a motorcycle trailer going 75 mph.
@harrytej
@harrytej 6 күн бұрын
Great, what people don’t realize is even though according to gets slightly lesser MPG than Camry the amount of Dollars they earn over a period is like less than 500$ , compare that to the ridiculous amount of overpay these Toyota dealers asking for
@DainLaguna
@DainLaguna 7 күн бұрын
So I’m about 15 min in and wanted to weigh in on my personal experience with the accord as I’ve driven it fairly extensively on loan from my local Honda dealership while my regular ride got worked on. Yall are spot on with the pros and cons. That interior, while way more cohesive looking and better laid out than the Camry imo, is capital D drab. It reminds me of Volkswagen when they were at their peak; it’s very Germanic, very understated, to a fault. And I was driving an EX trim, which has even less material variability than the higher end hybrid models. No rear vents is such a deal breaker for me. These are all things I think Honda will (and should) address in the refresh next year or so. As far as the pros go: also spot on. The infotainment is solid even on the poverty spec and this is even better. And since they both drive relatively the same, the better seating position and ergonomic layout of the accord swings a win for me over the Camry. The seating position is so good and everything just falls to hand. The cupholder placement in particular is just fucking perfect. Sounds ridiculous but in a car like this it matters. Both my kiddos loved the backseat space too and that trunk is truly gigantic. While you can’t go wrong with either, I think even with my gripes, it’s the driver interface, simplicity of controls and better seating position of the accord that wins me over for the Honda. I do dig the Camry, but those little intangibles are a big deal. Now for the love of god get some color and rear vents in that interior, Honda.
@oneblach
@oneblach 7 күн бұрын
Higher trims have the vents
@ikaros4203
@ikaros4203 7 күн бұрын
U needed a Touring trim
@JADE939
@JADE939 7 күн бұрын
In Asia, Honda has been known for being obsessed with copying German brands, especially VW and Audi. Their consoles in the recent models of the Civic, Accord, and CR-V are nearly identical to those in the Audi A4. The CR-V exterior looks almost the same as VW Taos. Now Honda also wants to move forward as an EV only, like Audi. In Asia, Honda has never been a leader in auto manufacturing. They like to follow others.
@cameron6249
@cameron6249 6 күн бұрын
11gen hondas have less features than the 10gen
@ascanius_son_of_aeneas5344
@ascanius_son_of_aeneas5344 6 күн бұрын
I got a accord exl a few weeks ago. Mine has the grey and black interior. Its only available on 3 colors. Red, white, and the metallic grey. The grey and black interior is so much nicer.
@hereigoagain5050
@hereigoagain5050 7 күн бұрын
I'm the Camry of husbands. My wife says I am quiet but grating.
@njad3
@njad3 6 күн бұрын
Then trade it in for an Accord
@hereigoagain5050
@hereigoagain5050 6 күн бұрын
@@njad3 (Don't tell my wife!) 🙂
@rutex09
@rutex09 6 күн бұрын
Cheesy
@fortheloveofnoise9298
@fortheloveofnoise9298 6 күн бұрын
Profile pic checks out
@mediocreman2
@mediocreman2 6 күн бұрын
Most of us don't need AWD, and one thing that drives me nuts about my Toyota is the same complaint you guys had; you feel like you're sitting on top of the car when you're driving it.
@facetiousmonkey5322
@facetiousmonkey5322 4 күн бұрын
Most people say that but Toyota is secretly gunning for the SUV driver who doesn’t want to be seen in an SUV
@gsxellence
@gsxellence 4 күн бұрын
​@@facetiousmonkey5322clearly evident in that mess called the crown
@ryanmcfarland1900
@ryanmcfarland1900 4 күн бұрын
The last couple rental Toyotas I had felt like that. I feel like it's been like that for years. I don't understand why people want that.
@drunksquirrel2051
@drunksquirrel2051 2 күн бұрын
Sounds like a personal problem. See a therapist
@hogibunz834
@hogibunz834 7 күн бұрын
Cars > SUV’s and Crossovers
@blackwhirlwind1245
@blackwhirlwind1245 7 күн бұрын
But for many people, it’s the other way around.
@Mark-eu6mc
@Mark-eu6mc 6 күн бұрын
*sheeple
@kopendozz
@kopendozz 7 күн бұрын
Thank you for the review, I absolutely agree with everything being said here. Test drove a Camry and just couldn't bear the whining noise, then test drove an Accord and was blown away by how much more refined it is and eventually bought the Accord.
@johny3133
@johny3133 7 күн бұрын
The most quality video product about cars on KZbin. Keep it up folks!
@ywkhgqo
@ywkhgqo 7 күн бұрын
Toyota doesn't do custom orders, so their "options" set up means you never know what you're gonna get when looking at one from a dealer. Good luck finding one that has exactly what you want. Accord doesn't have as many options outside of dealer add ons, but it means there's less BS finding the one you want. EX-L met most of what I wanted, and made it easier to find one I wanted. Good luck getting ANY Toyota hybrid at MSRP or less at this point too
@stephenj4937
@stephenj4937 7 күн бұрын
You can definitely get Corolla and Crown hybrids at (and below) MSRP. Give this 6 months and the Camry will also be below MSRP. Sedans just aren't in that much demand.
@user-vx7vi3vq1c
@user-vx7vi3vq1c 7 күн бұрын
Fitzgerald Toyota in Maryland sells at MSRP. Warrenton Toyota in Virginia sells at MSRP. It’s a long list with a 2 minute Google search.
@thomasd5248
@thomasd5248 7 күн бұрын
Literally just bought a 2025 camry for under msrp. Honda adding market adjustments to accords and civics lol. Honda can keep their fugly ass car.
@ywkhgqo
@ywkhgqo 7 күн бұрын
@@thomasd5248 I paid $1500 less than MSRP on my Accord. It's all about the area. But my points about customization and what not remain.
@thomasd5248
@thomasd5248 7 күн бұрын
@@ywkhgqo not that hard to get what you want with a little looking. My camry has the exact spec and feature set I want. Vast majority of buyers aren't doing custom orders so it isn't all that surprising Toyota doesn't do it
@snowpants2212
@snowpants2212 7 күн бұрын
If the Accord came with a saddle tan/brown interior option, I'd have one already
@Sashazur
@Sashazur 6 күн бұрын
I hate that pretty much all new cars now only offer black or black with gray “highlights” for interiors. I like lighter warmer colors!
@fortheloveofnoise9298
@fortheloveofnoise9298 6 күн бұрын
Go to Mazda
@carlosl5858
@carlosl5858 5 күн бұрын
Light gray interior leather is available in the EX-L and Touring models
@snowpants2212
@snowpants2212 5 күн бұрын
@@carlosl5858 light grey ain’t brown. And it’s only available with boring paint colors anyway. Mazda too expensive for what it is, and they don’t make the 6 anymore, which is what would compete with this
@rhynecars
@rhynecars 7 күн бұрын
These are the kinds of comparisons I like to see! Using matching tires is brilliant for comparison of road manners. Suck on that Consumer reports!
@anydaynow01
@anydaynow01 7 күн бұрын
And they used a tire people would actually use for daily driving!
@Unsalted375
@Unsalted375 7 күн бұрын
I think the Camry exterior looks better this gen, Accord looks like a love child of a ford taurus and vw jetta. Interior of accord is better though imo.
@someguyv1188
@someguyv1188 5 күн бұрын
We have S650 Mustang at home
@iamatlantis1
@iamatlantis1 5 күн бұрын
The true good looking Honda these days is that new Civic non-hatch. Best looking car they've made in a while.
@allanchen8496
@allanchen8496 7 күн бұрын
Toyota/Lexus is innovating here and offering feature set value (for the price) like Hyundai/Kia has been doing for years. About dang time!
@njad3
@njad3 6 күн бұрын
If they’re anything like Hyundai and Kia reliability, then you should get an Accord
@parkpy
@parkpy 7 күн бұрын
No rear Ventilation!?!? I can understand in the Civic, but not something bigger and more expensive. Then the lack of a spare tire!? Come on Honda…
@VeyroneR
@VeyroneR 7 күн бұрын
U know when u turn on AC it doesnt matter if you have rear vents or not its gonna be cold in the whole Cabin ? Seems ppl dont understand that. So much crying about rear vents.
@harshamanjunath3190
@harshamanjunath3190 7 күн бұрын
Accord touring trim has rear AC vents
@Marbind
@Marbind 7 күн бұрын
You never had passengers cold sensitive in the front right?
@GB-hn9ir
@GB-hn9ir 7 күн бұрын
@@harshamanjunath3190and EX-L
@Rew123
@Rew123 7 күн бұрын
​@@VeyroneRDon't act like you don't like some airflow on you. Are you saying you never turn on fans in your home, and instead wait for the AC to cool down the whole house?
@aaron311able
@aaron311able 6 күн бұрын
I appreciate the knowledge and the sense of humor you guys inject into all of your videos. Please don't stop what you are doing. This channel deserves so much praise in my humble opinion!
@TommyPickIes
@TommyPickIes 7 күн бұрын
Love when my car watches me like big brother.
@avitiasensei
@avitiasensei 6 күн бұрын
Amazing job with your videos. There´s a lot of information (really good info), nice visuals, good ol´ sarcasm, some bromance, and great audio and video quality.
@lawdog516
@lawdog516 7 күн бұрын
I hold your channel to a high standard and you never disappoint!!! Great comparison !!
@MadAmishman
@MadAmishman 7 күн бұрын
Love the reviews you guys do! So much good information jampacked into this! Plus, love how you guys give your honest feedback, no matter how critical it may be! Keep it up!
@johnbinder6988
@johnbinder6988 6 күн бұрын
Another great video. I really appreciate the comparo videos and the time, effort, and logistics to be able to do it.
@user-unionwrestling
@user-unionwrestling 7 күн бұрын
You guys are absolutely the best at giving in depth reviews from top to bottom of vehicles! The Honda Accord looks like something my grandma would drive and no longer looks like something everybody would be happy to drive! The Camry is a car that visually appeals to a greater audience!
@idanceforpennies281
@idanceforpennies281 6 күн бұрын
Forget about looks. The Camry wins on a technical basis.
@shaloon64
@shaloon64 6 күн бұрын
I actually think the accord looks better than this Camry
@TermlessHGW
@TermlessHGW 6 күн бұрын
I think Honda had a pretty much perfect "budget" sedan with the previous gen. 2l turbo. Regular 10 speed or 6 manual. This gen appeals to seniors.
@user-unionwrestling
@user-unionwrestling 6 күн бұрын
@@TermlessHGW I agree 💯!
@will4688
@will4688 7 күн бұрын
The intro music sets me in the mood for Camry and Accord. Thank you Savage.
@ab-nz2mm
@ab-nz2mm 5 күн бұрын
felt like an OG video, great work
@BadPhD777
@BadPhD777 Күн бұрын
Thank you Honda & Toyota for continuing to make sedans. Some of us don't want an SUV or pickup truck.
@samharmon5196
@samharmon5196 7 күн бұрын
I've been watching you guys for a while. Your content is top shelf. I'm happy with my '25 LE Camry that I picked up last week, you helped win me over to the refreshed model. Also Vulfpeck rocks.
@Cap683
@Cap683 6 күн бұрын
Agreed. I bought the Camry LE with option package. As an entry level trim, I think that it is the car to get. It has more than enough "features". I did not AB it with the Honda but to get the same ride in a hybrid vehicle , I would have to go with Honda Touring trim. That is much more than I would be willing to spend on a new car.
@liberaceboiithe3rd5
@liberaceboiithe3rd5 7 күн бұрын
I’ve had my 25 Camry for 1200 miles now, SE with multimedia upgrade, sunroof, convenience package. It’s been good to me so far. Some door trim rattling which I need to get fixed but aside from that it’s been very good to me
@mohammedalgheryafi7784
@mohammedalgheryafi7784 7 күн бұрын
One of the best reviews I have seen in a while.
@codysmith3271
@codysmith3271 7 күн бұрын
I really appreciate the details and nuances regarding the noise level measurements
@hughjass5976
@hughjass5976 7 күн бұрын
I'm sure that the felt wheel and under body panels do something for noise, but as someone that lives where there is a bunch of snow and slush for about half the year, I hate them. It absorbs water, gets heavy and sags, than freezes. It then gets torn up on ice chucks because it is hanging too low. I had to get new panels and then soak them in epoxy to harden them and prevent them from absorbing water. I'd take slightly more noise over that hassle any time.
@justin________7477
@justin________7477 6 күн бұрын
I like the felt in the wheel wells, in my experience it holds up well in Midwest winters. Never had it on the underbody though
@question_asker_93
@question_asker_93 7 күн бұрын
Really appreciate this comparison for normal people looking for information to make an informed purchasing decision.
@iceman.83
@iceman.83 6 күн бұрын
I was expecting this video for some time. Excellent job, great comparison touching the key differences, especially those in NVH. 👏 Kudos for going to the lengths using same tires for noise comparison, and stating beyond what the decibel numbers suggest. Fantastic job in driving impressions section explaining the difference in regen experience. Watched many videos, none of them was able to explain this level of detail. 👏
@jaffarbaqi
@jaffarbaqi 4 күн бұрын
You guys rock. I thank God you exist in the internet. No other channel speaks to me like you do. Keep on truckin.
@EMdemo
@EMdemo 7 күн бұрын
Honestly, the full black interior in the Honda pulls on my goth heart strings.... But, just like the majority of my vehicles in the past, I just about die in the summer with how hot they get.... That's the only reason I'd consider skipping that one
@DieselDan09
@DieselDan09 7 күн бұрын
It's almost like this video in intuitive to answer everything a person looking to buy this car would want to know. Spectacular job. I have been a fan of yours since the beginning, so great seeing how far your videos have evolved. I do miss the shoppe segment tho!!! Boy did that make me lmfao
@OldRustySteele
@OldRustySteele 5 күн бұрын
Obviously, “DieselDan09” is one of Scott Turbowski’s alias names. C’mon, Scott, you’ve been outed!!! 🤣😝😂
@halupa2222
@halupa2222 3 күн бұрын
I’ve watched ten different videos reviewing/comparing three two vehicles and this is by far the best. Well done, gents.
@XTrojanClauseX
@XTrojanClauseX 7 күн бұрын
I love the fact that you guys, always get up to par, when it comes to the technology gimmicks and quirks, which automotive industries are throwing at us lately. This is notable in the tech and infotainment section. Keep good work and thanks for maintaining us as users, deeply informed about all this. Awesome job guys.
@NavYblu99
@NavYblu99 7 күн бұрын
Lovely. Appreciate ya'll.
@mykolashatkovskyi576
@mykolashatkovskyi576 7 күн бұрын
Best car review channel in US/Canada. Competence, dedication, details, humor, ... Love you, guys. Thank you for one more great video.
@cletusowns
@cletusowns 6 күн бұрын
Another awesome video from yall!
@johnr9528
@johnr9528 6 күн бұрын
48.3 MPG, 300+ miles into 2nd tank of a 2024 Accord Hybrid Touring version - typical suburban driving - admittingly serene driver most of the time. I almost bought the 2024 Camry V6 since they are going away forever...it was a sweet motor. Great review.
@kevinbarry71
@kevinbarry71 7 күн бұрын
The Honda hybrid physically connects the gasoline engine to the wheels at Highway speeds for reasons of efficiency. Otherwise there's conversion loss, twice
@DavidSimpsonJr973
@DavidSimpsonJr973 7 күн бұрын
Correct. I wonder if a V6 in the same setup livens things up and allows it to be put in their larger platforms.
@tiredconnoisseur
@tiredconnoisseur 7 күн бұрын
The fake shifts also dont use the clutch, unlike what Mark says. It is emulated purely by engine rpm. Thats why sportmode stops fake shifting at high speed for most power. Highest available power is with clutch disengaged so inverter can combine max engine power + boost from battery. Electric motor power is the limiting factor.
@Fadic4
@Fadic4 6 күн бұрын
The engine can also directly provide electricity to the wheels without going to the battery if needed as well.
@vladdutz20
@vladdutz20 5 күн бұрын
Sometimes it blends the clutches into the simulated shifts, from standstill to 200kmh it starts electrical, continues with 1st clutch, disconnects it and goes into simulation, after that it continues with 2nd clutch and keeps it until maximum speed. You can notice the sprocket symbol in the center of the dash
@kevinbarry71
@kevinbarry71 5 күн бұрын
@@vladdutz20 yes, Honda isn't going to just drop the clutch. It will be smooth
@turboash78
@turboash78 7 күн бұрын
Wagon versions please (not stupid crossovers).
@bt7482
@bt7482 7 күн бұрын
I would love to see a Subaru Outback competitor. A Camry/rav4 based wagon with hybrid awd. Make it sleek and not a faux tough wagon, leave that for the rav4.
@calebwany8422
@calebwany8422 7 күн бұрын
Crown Signia intensiwagons
@rickygforce4217
@rickygforce4217 7 күн бұрын
Crown Signia is basically just a slightly lifted wagon
@henrysboy2
@henrysboy2 6 күн бұрын
Loved this video. Thk you.
@davidprosper3460
@davidprosper3460 6 күн бұрын
This is a video I will probably rewatch in 2-3 years when it comes time to settle on a family car.
@ozenmacher
@ozenmacher 7 күн бұрын
I have the CRV Hybrid. It also has awd. I bought this solely for the exact reasons you noted in this review, notably a far more refined drivetrain and interior isolation. It isn’t as good as my prior CX5 but it was way better than the rattley and unrefined RAV4. This still gets 39 mpg which is good enough for me. I’ll take refined and smooth any day over pure efficiency.
@sk-un5jq
@sk-un5jq 6 күн бұрын
CRV hybrid over the rattly RAV4 easily. RAV4 feels like a tinbox from 20 yrs ago.
@riseabove3082
@riseabove3082 4 күн бұрын
@@sk-un5jq We had a 2021 RAV4 and it was solid. Thick heavy doors so I don't know what you mean by rattly or tinbox. It drove like fridge and the engine sounded like a coffee grinder but otherwise it felt like a tank.
@cowmath77
@cowmath77 7 күн бұрын
Interior noise dampening really does mean a lot to me (I put a lot of miles on broken highways and gridlocked cities). I’d probably make my decision purely based on that. When I’m in my motorcycle I want the wind around me. When I’m in a car I want an isolation chamber.
@aprtur
@aprtur 7 күн бұрын
Oddly enough, if you're going to the high end trims, you're getting dangerously close to the Lexus ES and IS, Audi A4, Toyota Crown, and Acura TLX. If isolation is your number one priority, you'd probably be better off going a hair more expensive (or CPO) on one of those entry luxury vehicles, since they're considerably more insulated.
@kylelangley8818
@kylelangley8818 7 күн бұрын
@@aprturI was thinking the same thing.
@Mark-eu6mc
@Mark-eu6mc 6 күн бұрын
@@aprturwell said. I would not spend $40k for the premium versions with skinny tires for a commuter. I’d get a 2-3 year old ES300h. True isolation chamber with more sidewall and better interior.
@aprtur
@aprtur 6 күн бұрын
@@Mark-eu6mc absolutely - even saving a bit longer isn't out of the question since there are usually great deals on the ES. Or, for that matter, a CPO Avalon if the Crown is too outlandish (or you want the V6).
@fifzeppelin
@fifzeppelin 4 күн бұрын
@@aprtur In order to get similar features in an ES (better sound, hud, etc) including hybrid engine it basically shoots its price up to more around $52,000. That extra $10,000 may be worth it depending on what you're willing to spend, but I'm still torn.
@LoganWaddell-yx7iy
@LoganWaddell-yx7iy 5 күн бұрын
This channel has deserved 1m or more for years, let's get it done this year!
@Tony-uv4pd
@Tony-uv4pd 7 күн бұрын
Thank you! I was looking forward to your review between Camry Hybrid and Accord Hybrid. Your review is all about the no fluff (utility focus)
@joseeduardo4327
@joseeduardo4327 7 күн бұрын
Thanks for the info about privacy and data collection. Recently saw Breaking Points vid about ins companies and car manufacturers sharing and selling data
@rondail5675
@rondail5675 7 күн бұрын
Damn good comparison!
@joebrito2066
@joebrito2066 6 күн бұрын
Great review gentlemen!
@_Makanko_
@_Makanko_ 3 күн бұрын
Very high quality informative video Mark!. I'd love a similar one on your personal top picks for hatchbacks.
@ForeverDownByLaw
@ForeverDownByLaw 6 күн бұрын
Respect both brands, and both are great products, but I'm team Honda based on personal experience.
@JorgeRiverosTales
@JorgeRiverosTales 6 күн бұрын
Such a well done video.
@Racher081
@Racher081 5 күн бұрын
fantastic video great detail and analysis
@Viralityoflife
@Viralityoflife 7 күн бұрын
I do happen to like the Bridgestones I just got on my new car. Never tried them before and yet the mileage is good, ride is pretty good, handling is good, and it lasts a long ass time. Good recommendation guys 👍🏻
@FlyinGato
@FlyinGato 7 күн бұрын
I can’t believe I’m saying this but the styling on the Camry is better than the Accord, and that has never been true before. Also, these reviews need more donut holes and Arby’s
@trumpet12345
@trumpet12345 7 күн бұрын
Maybe concurrently. Both have looked good/bad on release or as time goes on. That said, I am not a fan of this Honda design. Reminds me of the final gen Ford Taurus front in a way.
@truckercowboyed2638
@truckercowboyed2638 7 күн бұрын
​@@trumpet12345why is that bad the Taurus was handsome and mature....
@miniaddict4534
@miniaddict4534 7 күн бұрын
It’s funny to see Honda dropped the lobster claw tail lights but Toyota adopted them.
@robertorazo4694
@robertorazo4694 6 күн бұрын
​@@miniaddict4534Actually no. Honda ripped off the "Lobster" tail lights🙄🙄. The 2012-2014 Camry had them first, then the Accord ripped those off. Just like they ripped off the Prius' overall shape with the first Insight
@ShaiyanHossain
@ShaiyanHossain 6 күн бұрын
@@robertorazo4694 the first insight came to market before the first prius did. also the first prius was a sedan that looks nothing like the insight lmao
@TheDevilishHusky
@TheDevilishHusky 6 күн бұрын
2023 Accord Hybrid EX-L owner here. Best purchase I've ever made. The way the transmission works is amazing. Wish there was a plug-in variant.
@otomoravec1732
@otomoravec1732 6 күн бұрын
Congrats buddy, the car is great. There is no tranny, its just the e-motor driving the wheels, thats why its sooo smooth.
@Marc-vl9id
@Marc-vl9id 5 күн бұрын
Why does plug in variant exist?
@xelawash
@xelawash 5 күн бұрын
Another first-class video! 💪👊
@Mealsandwheels
@Mealsandwheels 7 күн бұрын
Thank you for a real world comparison 90% of us will actually consider. I was hedging for the Camry but i wasnt sure. Thanks!
@Accost2u
@Accost2u 7 күн бұрын
Sorry but Honda is totally out of the question for me. Them selling your data to insurance companies on your driving metrics is a total violation that I’m not interested in ever dealing with.
@littlestinker9716
@littlestinker9716 7 күн бұрын
Toyota happily sells your driving data, too, if you don't opt out on the infotainment system or if you use the phone app.
@sappyjohnson
@sappyjohnson 7 күн бұрын
LOL. Toyota does the same thing
@davewilson7602
@davewilson7602 7 күн бұрын
While I agree it’s horrible Toyota and every other car company does that. They all do it and they all sell it to the same people
@tgoods44
@tgoods44 7 күн бұрын
Isn't it funny how they tell you that you have a choice? If you try to find a vehicle that doesn't sell your data, you can't.
@JDMSwervo2001
@JDMSwervo2001 7 күн бұрын
They’re all doing it. Another reason to buy older vehicles while you still can
@matthewt3586
@matthewt3586 7 күн бұрын
Just bought an Honda Accord Hybrid EX-L and I love it. The Camry just became pricey when adding the option that I wanted. No regrets at all.
@TermlessHGW
@TermlessHGW 6 күн бұрын
As a proper petrol head I just can't get over the fact that they had a pretty much perfect sedan with the previous gen. 2l turbo with 250hp and 10 speed transmission. None of that cvt crap. Plus you could get it with a 6 speed manual as well. This gen with it's puny 1.5 or hybrid feels like it was made for the elderly.
@harrytej
@harrytej 6 күн бұрын
@@TermlessHGWMasses don’t want that.. just take your iphone as an example.. you want 20 hours of charging and need to be thinnest possible while running multiple apps with the biggest possible MP cameras… who wants the original Manual transmission these days? Tell me why should companies invest in this? Who’s buying ?
@akapeeks
@akapeeks 7 күн бұрын
The transition into the Accord drive segment made my day 😂
@nathangmyrek7443
@nathangmyrek7443 6 күн бұрын
The steering feel comment… “direct and lifeless” sums up the cars perfectly.
@brenttitus2134
@brenttitus2134 7 күн бұрын
The better comparison would have been with the Accord Touring. Having a fully loaded XLE was not fair against the Sport-L.
@Mark-eu6mc
@Mark-eu6mc 6 күн бұрын
The accord hybrid touring is $39k. Not sure that’s a fair comparison.
@brenttitus2134
@brenttitus2134 6 күн бұрын
@@Mark-eu6mc That Camry XLE they used is $40k+. It was fully optioned out.
@Mark-eu6mc
@Mark-eu6mc 6 күн бұрын
@@brenttitus2134 I stand corrected (yikes that’s a lot of options.. XLE MSRP starts at $35k). But it was an availability issue; no Touring trims were available for filming.
@michaelvella8511
@michaelvella8511 7 күн бұрын
Very very profecional review....I understand it's probably a lot of work producing and editing a review like this but so worth watching.
@churchofbrap876
@churchofbrap876 7 күн бұрын
Jack is an AI generated character that Mark has painstakingly developed over the years
@thegourmetgolfer5544
@thegourmetgolfer5544 5 күн бұрын
I'll take a spare tire over slightly mire trunk space any day of the week. Love that Toyota are still including them
@johnmitchell8925
@johnmitchell8925 6 күн бұрын
Great video guys
@yellowfr0g
@yellowfr0g 7 күн бұрын
My takeaway from this video is bar donuts are called long johns in the midwest.
@ssj_shep
@ssj_shep 7 күн бұрын
I love how Jack brings out the goofy side of Mark ahahaha
@mikebingham9700
@mikebingham9700 7 күн бұрын
Oh, goofy, goofy....
@catherinejacobs4801
@catherinejacobs4801 7 күн бұрын
Thank you so much for this comparison video. I will be purchasing a new sedan in December and need help choosing between the two vehicles.
@HiepVo31
@HiepVo31 7 күн бұрын
Forget everything else, this face off is the highlight of my week
@martifilipponi1024
@martifilipponi1024 7 күн бұрын
While I think that the Accord has a 20 year old digital display I do however like the interior, I like its understated class. Everyone is doing that bold contrast stitching, and I feel the camera is over the top with it..they tried to over glitch up a family Camry .
@domdrty
@domdrty 6 күн бұрын
People need to take the privacy issues with Honda more seriously because it can negatively impact their insurance.
@labradachig1976
@labradachig1976 6 күн бұрын
We need more videos like this. Please.
@francoispanneton609
@francoispanneton609 6 күн бұрын
Best review!! 👍🏼👍🏼
@levanceland
@levanceland 6 күн бұрын
7:09 you would think that with all the cars released with infotainment systems throughout a decade, Toyota would know by now what users want to access by now.
@fortheloveofnoise9298
@fortheloveofnoise9298 6 күн бұрын
Tastess change with time...but it is more of just an excuse to sell data
@ryanscott9011
@ryanscott9011 6 күн бұрын
The best part is that he’s listening to Steely Dan.
@TripleBerg
@TripleBerg 7 күн бұрын
Good info on how Toyota handles your private information and usage. I’ve never seen anyone do a technical analysis of the JBL systems. JBL is not a Mark Levinson system but I like how it sounds on my Avalon with 14 speakers and 1200 W amp.
@mauriciosagasteguicanudas7167
@mauriciosagasteguicanudas7167 3 күн бұрын
Thank You‼️🏁
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