Camry vs Accord | The Forever Sedans Face Off

[@BadPhD777]

Thank you Honda & Toyota for continuing to make sedans. Some of us don't want an SUV or pickup truck.

[@kasimshaikh3750]

The thing I find funny is people using pick-up trucks and 7- seat SUVs to come to work. Lol 😂😂 it just never makes any sense whatsoever. It's just one person coming to work in that huge machine.

[@XibeastmasteriX]

People that buy those cars for “more space” are complete morons. The extra space is minimal when you look at the actual volume

[@rangerryda8218]

​@@kasimshaikh3750Agreed. Very silly. But I'm also getting tired of being the only ground-level vehicle on the road. Every car is taller than me and I can't see ahead in traffic and I'm constantly blinded by all the headlights that are 3 feet above my head!

[@JacksonWalter735]

Agreed. I was devastated when Mazda stopped making the Mazda 6. My parents got a 2018 Mazda 6 when I was in middle school and it served my family very well. My parents told me it would be my car when I head off to college, but someone ran a stop sign and totaled the car. When we looked at the car market again, we were shocked with how few sedans there are compared to when we previously bought a car. It seems like the market shifted towards subcompact SUVs, compact SUVs, and SUVs (and trucks are still strong). I was surprised with how many car manufacturers no longer make sedans. After checking out the Camry, Accord, Kia K5, Hyundai Sonata, and Nissan Altima, we ultimately went with a 2025 Camry XLE and couldn't be happier with it. I never imagined that a Toyota could look this cool or feel this nice without going up to a Lexus. Plus having every single trim be a hybrid can be a game changer for those who want a lower priced option but still want higher mpgs if they opt for the cheaper Camry trims (it is basically a better deal than a Corolla hybrid or an entry Accords).

[@rkgsd]

Honda and Toyota still make sedans because they still sell and they know how to make them better than the American automakers who forgot.

[@josecazarez9541]

I know im getting old when I’m more excited for this show off than a sports car one lmao

[@realbeetlejuice]

+1. But it's sad af there are no more performance variants anymore :(

[@blastercorps]

Because this is real. Let's be honest, few if any of us are getting a supercar. A ton of us are getting one of these.

[@Angel7black]

@@blastercorpsyou dont need a super car. I have a 2013 V6 mustang with twin turbos pushing around 500 hp, sold my project new edge GT, have a mk iii supra. Never spent more than 40K for a car. Tbf my wife has sedan and honda itself, but its a newer 2024 civic SI she replaced her old GTI with. Point is you really don’t need to give up on fun cara just cause youre old, we’re both in our 30’s and while yeah thats not that old we sure as shit arent that young either. Her dad is in his 60’s and he drives an F250 and and one of the cleanest Datsuns ive ever seen in person. What you drive says a lot about you, but not necessarily that youre old. When i see somebody driving a new basic ass camry or accord i dont think “that person is old” i think “that person probably doesnt really care much for cars and but wants something nice, practical and reliable”. And that’s fine, but thats a personal taste interests thing than it is age thing. Friends been driving camrys since we were in high school

[@a.bishop615]

@@billyracks I’d bet my entire savings that your favorite car brand is German

[@chairmankaga101]

No kidding! I feel like this video was made specifically for my next car decision.

[@Benisfunny]

"The Camry has a physical door pull. No fi- fiddle fuckin' around with that." Perfectly said.

[@nateavery2875]

👍

[@blueflameSM]

The one thing about some new Lexus models, the door handles. Fixing something that wasn't broken, all these buttons and whatnot to unlock/open the door is just so niche.

[@NelsonGasparDrives]

nothing worse in the auto biz than that dang fiddle-fuckin'

[@Beer_Dad1975]

@@blueflameSM Lexus aren't what they used to be, that's for sure - they used to have a lot of quite distinct models - now they are almost all just reworked Toyotas, like Genesys or Acura.

[@angelgjr1999]

Love Toyota because they keep it basic.

[@realbeetlejuice]

this is just insane. this is better quality/production than anything we would have got even on TV produced and made by a big company. savagegeese is still incredibly underrated, this channel should have millions of subs by now. 10/10

[@PNW_Sportbike_Life]

100%

[@katyushared516]

Higher quality than watching the tv

[@jarso]

Just Maybe little bit Honda Biased? Sounds like they're making excuses to justify that even though Honda is worse, it doesn't matter. "even that its not as good..." "even that it doesn't have as much punch..." "even that its more noisy...." "Even thought Camry turns in better, its because..."

[@realbeetlejuice]

@@jarso fair..

[@jametime41]

bursted out laughing at work when jack almost understeered off the road on his first turn good stuff

[@wiryantirta]

and the fact that the chocolate bit on his chocoloate long johns hasn't touched his shirt or any part of the car interior

[@worst-hd-player]

😂

[@seymourbrown4540]

@@worst-hd-playeri think ive played in an osu multi with you maybe

[@QLPJosh]

Thank you for touching base on the privacy and data collection within the infotainment. People don't take it as seriously as it should.

[@JohnyMcNeal]

Now they're installing cameras (e class for example) 😂

[@nkenchington6575]

touching base?! fucking hell, man.

[@aygwm]

Touch! Base!

[@nateavery2875]

Not like you have a real choice. Opt out and get reduced or no features. These companies can't help themselves. They force you into data submission.

[@ADUSN]

"touch base" I agree with you but the corporate talk is revolting

[@Masterguy635]

This is my C8 Corvette vs MKV Supra moment.

[@anydaynow01]

You mean the MKI Zupra? It may be fast, but it's 99% a bottom of the line BMW badge swapped by the Toyota bean counters and advertising department. 🤣 It's even made in Austria on the same assembly line as the BMW Z4.

[@guycha0s380]

​@@anydaynow01 🤡 Bros living in 2000s

[@NomenClature-o8s]

@@anydaynow01And that’s why it’s a great car. The B58 is better than anything in the old Supras.

[@theoyansen8267]

​@anydaynow01 you're getting a BMW for a discount. Why would you be mad?

[@eppyz]

You have too much time on your hands😂

[@harry2492]

Love that you went the extra mile and put them on the same tires. I think this is one of the first reviews I've seen that and really think it adds to a good comparison. Respect.

[@realbeetlejuice]

forget the tires... they're going in depth on literally e-v-e-r-y-t-h-i-n-gggggggggggggggggggggggggggg

[@lorenschwiderski]

New tires should be broken in before hard cornering. Just a thought.

[@kingair433]

It's just a creative way to include their sponsor. In reality, since those are not the tires that come with either car, it greatly changes the review of the actual car that people are buying.

[@realbeetlejuice]

@@kingair433 good point tbh.

[@harry2492]

@@kingair433I mean, you have a point. But tires change so much about the vehicle with regards to noise, ride, smoothness, etc that I’d rather the same car be compared on the same tire than having them on different ones and pretending that they have nothing to do with any driving characteristics. It’s not like most of us change the tires within 20-40 thousand miles anyway.

[@noname-gp6hk]

It's sad that the biggest selling point for me is actual physical knobs and switches.

[@sk-un5jq]

That and quietness/refinement are the clinchers for me. I'd get the Accord and if I lived in a cold weather state I'd get the CRV hybrid, which is way more refined than the rattly ass RAV4.

[@charliesmash]

No.

[@jxmar_]

@@sk-un5jqthe RAV4 also came out in 2018 as a 2019 model and it’s due for a redesign soon

[@davidpark2509]

Talk about spoiled/jaded

[@tubehead8203]

He makes pressing buttons sound advanced.

[@bigbunnyboi]

Two dads enjyong their midlife crisis on two of the most reliable dad sedans. Great to watch this!

[@kellyaustin7487]

Midlife crisis would be a new Vette or equivalent.

[@yanboa]

Thanks for being real pros and doing regular cars, guys!!

[@AndreasPenninger-oc8sw]

It is super that you do regular cars! Thank you

[@dragospahontu]

All the dads gathered around to watch this showoff.

[@AW-gj4ji]

If the ES was included, then the Grandpas would be here too!

[@tototronic2]

It's called a "Showdown" not a "Showoff"!

[@Portland2006]

Personally, I'm too aroused by the Civic Hybrid to pay much attention.

[@dragoniv]

Bought a four door Pontiac G8 as a dad. Grandpa here went for the Accord Hybrid.

[@dragospahontu]

@@dragoniv safe choice, are they gonna burry him in the Accord?

[@augustortiz]

True performance machines in their new sleek bodywork. A duel for the ages.

[@mattspeer01]

Performance 😂

[@joshgts9675]

I know when I hear Atkinson Cycle it means the vehicle is a serious performance machine.

[@johnkonde1975]

when I think of performance, I think of a 2024 Mustang Ecoboost, not these two family sedans

[@augustortiz]

@@johnkonde1975 umm, thats a supercar.. These are high performance family sedans.

[@truckercowboyed2638]

​@@augustortiza mustang is a super car????? 😂

[@prius4520]

Huge thank you for the data privacy segment! This should be a part of every car review.

[@halupa2222]

I’ve watched ten different videos reviewing/comparing three two vehicles and this is by far the best. Well done, gents.

[@OliverBurt-n1l]

AWD for the Camry tips the scales for me. And will likely be the difference maker for a lot of folks in northern climates.

[@Hallowsaw]

Why spend 40k on an awd xle when you can get a awd crown signia for 45k

[@DavidSimpsonJr973]

Simply put, car purchases are rarely all about rationality. Especially when most ppl lease. ​@@Hallowsaw

[@dustinjohnston2241]

@@Hallowsaw in canada an AWD XLE camry starts at $48,500 and a crown base model starts at $58,000, At that point just upgrade to a Lexus. The Crown seems pointless

[@anydaynow01]

@@dustinjohnston2241 Agreed, the Crown makes about as much sense as the Maxima did for Nissan, and any Buick does for GM.

[@nateTrh]

​@Hallowsaw Or just get an LE or SE awd for much less. If you want luxury, then it makes sense to grab a Venza or Crown Signia but if you just need usable and awd, you can't really beat the value of the lower Toyota trims. The heated seat and steering wheel package is also pretty cheap.

[@Hallowsaw]

"You can get the JBL on the lower trims" yeah its a 4k package that makes it cost more than the base upper trim

[@jxmar_]

And you actually can’t get the JBL sound system on the base models. You can only get the 12.3 inch screen on the SE, that doesn’t come w the JBL.

[@anlam1044]

just get base model and change out the speakers, it'll sound 10x better than stock JBL

[@kylelangley8818]

Ehh, $4K financed over 72months. I’d take better audio over the life of a boring car any day.

[@morebrainmoregains3234]

@@kylelangley8818 poor financial decision making

[@Mark-eu6mc]

@@kylelangley8818financed over 72 months at 6.99% APR lmao. You military?

[@Eldaino999]

So I’m about 15 min in and wanted to weigh in on my personal experience with the accord as I’ve driven it fairly extensively on loan from my local Honda dealership while my regular ride got worked on. Yall are spot on with the pros and cons. That interior, while way more cohesive looking and better laid out than the Camry imo, is capital D drab. It reminds me of Volkswagen when they were at their peak; it’s very Germanic, very understated, to a fault. And I was driving an EX trim, which has even less material variability than the higher end hybrid models. No rear vents is such a deal breaker for me. These are all things I think Honda will (and should) address in the refresh next year or so. As far as the pros go: also spot on. The infotainment is solid even on the poverty spec and this is even better. And since they both drive relatively the same, the better seating position and ergonomic layout of the accord swings a win for me over the Camry. The seating position is so good and everything just falls to hand. The cupholder placement in particular is just fucking perfect. Sounds ridiculous but in a car like this it matters. Both my kiddos loved the backseat space too and that trunk is truly gigantic. While you can’t go wrong with either, I think even with my gripes, it’s the driver interface, simplicity of controls and better seating position of the accord that wins me over for the Honda. I do dig the Camry, but those little intangibles are a big deal. Now for the love of god get some color and rear vents in that interior, Honda.

[@oneblach]

Higher trims have the vents

[@ikaros4203]

U needed a Touring trim

[@SecretObservant]

In Asia, Honda has been known for being obsessed with copying German brands, especially VW and Audi. Their consoles in the recent models of the Civic, Accord, and CR-V are nearly identical to those in the Audi A4. The CR-V exterior looks almost the same as VW Taos. Now Honda also wants to move forward as an EV only, like Audi. In Asia, Honda has never been a leader in auto manufacturing. They like to follow others.

[@cameron6249]

11gen hondas have less features than the 10gen

[@ascanius_son_of_aeneas5344]

I got a accord exl a few weeks ago. Mine has the grey and black interior. Its only available on 3 colors. Red, white, and the metallic grey. The grey and black interior is so much nicer.

[@johnr9528]

48.3 MPG, 300+ miles into 2nd tank of a 2024 Accord Hybrid Touring version - typical suburban driving - admittingly serene driver most of the time. I almost bought the 2024 Camry V6 since they are going away forever...it was a sweet motor. Great review.

[@tomhockman6267]

I really like your audio system testing to provide actual data as to how good or bad the default stereo is in each car. Good work!

[@marshmellow3110]

Y’all are the best. Great video. Let’s see a comparison video with ten year old models with over 200k miles. That’s what Merica truly needs.

[@grubbp]

Amen!

[@SilverScarletSpider]

2012 Toyota Camry V6 vs 2012 Honda Accord V6 videos in 2024 would make this channel goated

[@The.Machiiine]

@@SilverScarletSpider Sounds like an episode idea for Throttle House

[@olasogaolu7011]

15:19 personally I like the all black interior, yes the Camry one looks more stylish and classy, but I wonder how it will hold up again dirt, over time.

[@johny3133]

The most quality video product about cars on KZbin. Keep it up folks!

[@lot931]

These guys are great. I like the Car Care Nut, too.

[@avitiasensei]

Amazing job with your videos. There´s a lot of information (really good info), nice visuals, good ol´ sarcasm, some bromance, and great audio and video quality.

[@BAC494]

This has to be one of the most comprehensive car comparisons i think ive ever seen. Incredible detail, and outlines things i wasnt even aware of. Great video

[@johngonzalez851]

Great review as always guys. Btw, in terms of advertised vs actual mileage, my 23 Accord Hybrid blows past 50mpg every tank year round surpassing the advertised mileage. Living in the NY/NJ area i get a pretty good mix of driving conditions.

[@matthewshultz8762]

I'm glad the newer gen is getting better mileage. My 2019 hybrid would go up to about 42/45 mpg at most. But, on the lower end it would never get below 36, even when towing a motorcycle trailer going 75 mph.

[@harrytej]

Great, what people don’t realize is even though according to gets slightly lesser MPG than Camry the amount of Dollars they earn over a period is like less than 500$ , compare that to the ridiculous amount of overpay these Toyota dealers asking for

[@aaron311able]

I appreciate the knowledge and the sense of humor you guys inject into all of your videos. Please don't stop what you are doing. This channel deserves so much praise in my humble opinion!

[@LoganWaddell-yx7iy]

This channel has deserved 1m or more for years, let's get it done this year!

[@StevenBanks123]

Love that you understand sound levels are not just raw measurement, but the curve.

[@ObscureArms]

I’ve had my 25 Camry for 1200 miles now, SE with multimedia upgrade, sunroof, convenience package. It’s been good to me so far. Some door trim rattling which I need to get fixed but aside from that it’s been very good to me

[@g60corrado91]

What mileage have you been averaging? AWD or FWD?

[@tekkh]

⁠​⁠@@g60corrado91I have the same exact as them, Fwd. when I’m driving for fun and accelerating unnecessarily, I get around 43mpg. When I’m driving for mpg, I get as high as 55+ on highway heavy drives of course.

[@g60corrado91]

@@tekkh nice!

[@mediocreman2]

Most of us don't need AWD, and one thing that drives me nuts about my Toyota is the same complaint you guys had; you feel like you're sitting on top of the car when you're driving it.

[@facetiousmonkey5322]

Most people say that but Toyota is secretly gunning for the SUV driver who doesn’t want to be seen in an SUV

[@gsxellence]

​@@facetiousmonkey5322clearly evident in that mess called the crown

[@ryanmcfarland1900]

The last couple rental Toyotas I had felt like that. I feel like it's been like that for years. I don't understand why people want that.

[@drunksquirrel2051]

Sounds like a personal problem. See a therapist

[@threadoflife]

You can lower the driver seat in the XSE from my test drive it was just fine I like sitting low and reclined in a relaxed drivers position and the Camry did just fine for me.

[@demariousbonner7037]

Please talk about date collection more often in your reviews. It’s much appreciated.

[@rhynecars]

These are the kinds of comparisons I like to see! Using matching tires is brilliant for comparison of road manners. Suck on that Consumer reports!

[@anydaynow01]

And they used a tire people would actually use for daily driving!

[@mykolashatkovskyi576]

Best car review channel in US/Canada. Competence, dedication, details, humor, ... Love you, guys. Thank you for one more great video.

[@matthewt3586]

Just bought an Honda Accord Hybrid EX-L and I love it. The Camry just became pricey when adding the option that I wanted. No regrets at all.

[@TermlessHGW]

As a proper petrol head I just can't get over the fact that they had a pretty much perfect sedan with the previous gen. 2l turbo with 250hp and 10 speed transmission. None of that cvt crap. Plus you could get it with a 6 speed manual as well. This gen with it's puny 1.5 or hybrid feels like it was made for the elderly.

[@harrytej]

@@TermlessHGWMasses don’t want that.. just take your iphone as an example.. you want 20 hours of charging and need to be thinnest possible while running multiple apps with the biggest possible MP cameras… who wants the original Manual transmission these days? Tell me why should companies invest in this? Who’s buying ?

[@josefgordon7712]

Camry LE with AWD still gets like 50 mpg and has more tire for a nicer ride. Such a ridiculously great value. Really get my “Dad” blood racing 🥵

[@njad3]

Doesn’t matter, get an accord instead

[@Courtesyflush52]

@@njad3the Camry just has a better set of features with the better hybrid system and the AWD

[@shaalis]

no way does it get 50mpg. More like 44-45. at best.

[@glassrockpurple154]

@@shaalis I have a 2021 LE Camry hybrid FWD and it is currently getting 52-53 mpg with me beating on it and driving 85mph

[@rallysauruswrex]

@@shaalis it does actually. I just took one out for a 2 hr drive and it was easily getting 49-51 mpg driving normally

[@TheDevilishHusky]

2023 Accord Hybrid EX-L owner here. Best purchase I've ever made. The way the transmission works is amazing. Wish there was a plug-in variant.

[@otomoravec1732]

Congrats buddy, the car is great. There is no tranny, its just the e-motor driving the wheels, thats why its sooo smooth.

[@Marc-vl9id]

Why does plug in variant exist?

[@allanchen8496]

Toyota/Lexus is innovating here and offering feature set value (for the price) like Hyundai/Kia has been doing for years. About dang time!

[@njad3]

If they’re anything like Hyundai and Kia reliability, then you should get an Accord

[@ZacharyHankins]

I bought a Camry XSE last week. I absolutely love it. This is my first Hybrid vehicle, and I have no complaints. It's a quick car, extremely smooth over bumps, and handles insanely well.

[@ra4811]

Thanks Fellas, absolutely terrific comparison video. One aspect of your reviews that is especially appreciated is that you get the vehicles up on the lift and discuss the components and manufacturing. You provide measured data which is lacking in most other reviews. Your accompanying graphics are always well done and helpful. Plus, you are both pleasant and fun. We've been shopping for a replacement for our 2002 Camry (which is still an excellent car 22 years later) because we'd like some of the modern safety and general tech. We have been waiting for a 50mpg hybrid that is not a Prius and so have watched numerous vids. We will not even consider a car unless y'all have a review for it. If we may - please consider a comparison video for hybrid suv under $50k. Again, thank you for the fine work.

[@lawdog516]

I hold your channel to a high standard and you never disappoint!!! Great comparison !!

[@question_asker_93]

Really appreciate this comparison for normal people looking for information to make an informed purchasing decision.

[@will4688]

The intro music sets me in the mood for Camry and Accord. Thank you Savage.

[@XTrojanClauseX]

I love the fact that you guys, always get up to par, when it comes to the technology gimmicks and quirks, which automotive industries are throwing at us lately. This is notable in the tech and infotainment section. Keep good work and thanks for maintaining us as users, deeply informed about all this. Awesome job guys.

[@jordanlarson6488]

Just bought a 2024 Accord Hybrid Sport. Loving it so far. Our daily commuting and driving is all under 50mph, and this this feels extremely crisp, smooth, responsive, and QUIET.

[@DieselDan09]

It's almost like this video in intuitive to answer everything a person looking to buy this car would want to know. Spectacular job. I have been a fan of yours since the beginning, so great seeing how far your videos have evolved. I do miss the shoppe segment tho!!! Boy did that make me lmfao

[@OldRustySteele]

Obviously, “DieselDan09” is one of Scott Turbowski’s alias names. C’mon, Scott, you’ve been outed!!! 🤣😝😂

[@hogibunz834]

Cars > SUV’s and Crossovers

[@blackwhirlwind1245]

But for many people, it’s the other way around.

[@Mark-eu6mc]

*sheeple

[@jbraunger]

Every time I rent a car (which is often) I ask for a full size sedan. They never ever have one available and give me an SUV and act like they are doing me a favor. First world problems yes, but after 20 times it gets annoying.

[@Mark-eu6mc]

@@jbraunger exactly. I had a 9 hour road trip to Maine. They “upgraded” me from a ford focus to a ford ecosport. I was pissed. Got 25 mpg the whole way instead of 40 and was blown around all over the highway.

[@Adegoke-q6k]

Now which of the car in between won the comparison

[@paulhenry913]

The Accord has always had a edginess to it and IMO it doesn't disappoint in the hybrid version. I really like Honda's new hybrid setup. As Jack pointed out cant go wrong with either choice but I would lean towards the Accord

[@ibrahimbashir6634]

Junk

[@cod4r]

I would go with the most generations.

[@glassrockpurple154]

“edginess” meaning fake shift sounds and being much slower than a Camry especially when you get to higher speeds.

[@paulhenry913]

@@glassrockpurple154 it also means no debris in the engine

[@glassrockpurple154]

@@paulhenry913 LOL Toyota constantly ranks more reliable than Honda. That Accords “transmission” has clutches that will go bad long before the Toyota’s planetary gearset cvt.

[@thomasbrasse3145]

Just got a 2025 Accord Touring and took my first of many work trips in it. As a tall guy (6'3") I fit beautifully. It is comfortable and quiet. I am happy with my decision and the hybrid system is smooth as silk.

[@keadog1838]

There aren't many KZbin channels I would watch a Accord v Camry battle, even at 1.75 speed, so kudos there. I would default to AWD and a spare if forced to choose.

[@idanceforpennies281]

Camry. More power, better fuel economy, better interior, spare tyre and 4WD.

[@angelgjr1999]

Yeah the accord is not as good. If you want Honda then just get the civic

[@idanceforpennies281]

@@angelgjr1999 In its class the Civic is more competitive, it's somewhat bigger for example than it's rivals and rides/handles very well.

[@paulh6517]

The interior of the Honda gets a "D" for dour, dark and drab. For me its the interior of the Camry and the nicer audio system that wins me over. Also using a Linux info system is less likely to share driving information than a google based system. I am sure google would not mind selling your driver info to your insurance company as well.

[@CalvinHikes]

But it's not a honda.

[@LlyleHunter]

If you keep your cars there’s no comparison. The Camry is made to last and run much longer without giving the owners any trouble whatsoever while the Accords aren’t what they were in the 1990s and before. They’ve become delicate little flowers and it shows up around four years old and then you have to start pumping money into them like European cars. I had a very rude awakening from Honda and switched. I don’t have the time to bring cars in. I just don’t deal with it.

[@kopendozz]

Thank you for the review, I absolutely agree with everything being said here. Test drove a Camry and just couldn't bear the whining noise, then test drove an Accord and was blown away by how much more refined it is and eventually bought the Accord.

[@garren588]

I agree. The powertrain refinement of the Accord Hybrid truly allows it to punch above it’s weight class

[@mohammedalgheryafi7784]

One of the best reviews I have seen in a while.

[@heartpath1]

I just got a 2024 Accord Sport L, but whatever, neither here nor there, can’t go wrong with either car. Let’s talk about the production value of this video!!! Amazing quality on this channel. Wow.

[@davidprosper3460]

This is a video I will probably rewatch in 2-3 years when it comes time to settle on a family car.

[@hereigoagain5050]

I'm the Camry of husbands. My wife says I am quiet but grating.

[@njad3]

Then trade it in for an Accord

[@hereigoagain5050]

@@njad3 (Don't tell my wife!) 🙂

[@rutex09]

Cheesy

[@fortheloveofnoise]

Profile pic checks out

[@tomhockman6267]

As for your mpg comparison, you used an Accord Sport with swapped out 19 inch tires for your result of. 38 mpg. The Accord EX-L with 17 inch tires does get the advertised mpg of 48-51 during warm months over 50 degrees F on average. The EX-L is the hidden gem among the Accord line-up.

[@garren588]

The EX-L is the best value in the lineup

[@jeffkenny8372]

Love my '24 EX-L, normal mpg is 55-60 in the city. 45-48 on the interstates. Just traded my 2019 Camry Hybrid XLE for a '25 Camry LE. Similarly equipped as the EX-L. Both are great cars.

[@cowmath77]

Interior noise dampening really does mean a lot to me (I put a lot of miles on broken highways and gridlocked cities). I’d probably make my decision purely based on that. When I’m in my motorcycle I want the wind around me. When I’m in a car I want an isolation chamber.

[@aprtur]

Oddly enough, if you're going to the high end trims, you're getting dangerously close to the Lexus ES and IS, Audi A4, Toyota Crown, and Acura TLX. If isolation is your number one priority, you'd probably be better off going a hair more expensive (or CPO) on one of those entry luxury vehicles, since they're considerably more insulated.

[@kylelangley8818]

@@aprturI was thinking the same thing.

[@Mark-eu6mc]

@@aprturwell said. I would not spend $40k for the premium versions with skinny tires for a commuter. I’d get a 2-3 year old ES300h. True isolation chamber with more sidewall and better interior.

[@aprtur]

@@Mark-eu6mc absolutely - even saving a bit longer isn't out of the question since there are usually great deals on the ES. Or, for that matter, a CPO Avalon if the Crown is too outlandish (or you want the V6).

[@fifzeppelin]

@@aprtur In order to get similar features in an ES (better sound, hud, etc) including hybrid engine it basically shoots its price up to more around $52,000. That extra $10,000 may be worth it depending on what you're willing to spend, but I'm still torn.

[@jaffarbaqi]

You guys rock. I thank God you exist in the internet. No other channel speaks to me like you do. Keep on truckin.

[@gentlegiant4067]

When they announced the new Toyota Camry I was so excited. I'm a Honda Accord person but the new Accord doesn't look super awesome. On paper, the Camry checks the better fuel economy, cheaper, has side mirror turn signals and just looks better. I test drove it and I hated it...I test drove an Accord and it was just so much better.

[@snowpants2212]

If the Accord came with a saddle tan/brown interior option, I'd have one already

[@Sashazur]

I hate that pretty much all new cars now only offer black or black with gray “highlights” for interiors. I like lighter warmer colors!

[@fortheloveofnoise]

Go to Mazda

[@carlosl5858]

Light gray interior leather is available on the EX-L and Touring models

[@snowpants2212]

@@carlosl5858 light grey ain’t brown. And it’s only available with boring paint colors anyway. Mazda too expensive for what it is, and they don’t make the 6 anymore, which is what would compete with this

[@willmak242]

That’s why accord doesn’t have marks up and adds on like Camry does.

[@ForeverDownByLaw]

Respect both brands, and both are great products, but I'm team Honda based on personal experience.

[@hughjass5976]

I'm sure that the felt wheel and under body panels do something for noise, but as someone that lives where there is a bunch of snow and slush for about half the year, I hate them. It absorbs water, gets heavy and sags, than freezes. It then gets torn up on ice chucks because it is hanging too low. I had to get new panels and then soak them in epoxy to harden them and prevent them from absorbing water. I'd take slightly more noise over that hassle any time.

[@justin________7477]

I like the felt in the wheel wells, in my experience it holds up well in Midwest winters. Never had it on the underbody though

[@sk-un5jq]

Never had a problem with mine in Edmonton winters.

[@RobertL-zf2vy]

Best comparison video I’ve ever seen. I have the Accord EX-L hybrid and love it, even the monochromatic interior. Everything feels intuitive and laid out well. It drives like an entry level luxury car with flat cornering. Doing 80 mph on the interstate feels as smooth and quiet as doing 50. Only complaint so far is the passenger front seat. My wife hates how low it is and there’s no height adjustment.

[@joseeduardo4327]

Thanks for the info about privacy and data collection. Recently saw Breaking Points vid about ins companies and car manufacturers sharing and selling data

[@j.redbeard99]

Thanks!

[@EMdemo]

Honestly, the full black interior in the Honda pulls on my goth heart strings.... But, just like the majority of my vehicles in the past, I just about die in the summer with how hot they get.... That's the only reason I'd consider skipping that one

[@jaws10278]

First time seeing one of your videos! Enjoyed it. Very thorough. Thanks

[@dpalexander]

Excellent video- I think this gave me a better idea of how these cars drive than any other video I have ever seen! I particularly liked the long seat-of-the-pants driving review. 5*

[@FlyinGato]

I can’t believe I’m saying this but the styling on the Camry is better than the Accord, and that has never been true before. Also, these reviews need more donut holes and Arby’s

[@trumpet12345]

Maybe concurrently. Both have looked good/bad on release or as time goes on. That said, I am not a fan of this Honda design. Reminds me of the final gen Ford Taurus front in a way.

[@truckercowboyed2638]

​@@trumpet12345why is that bad the Taurus was handsome and mature....

[@miniaddict4534]

It’s funny to see Honda dropped the lobster claw tail lights but Toyota adopted them.

[@robertorazo4694]

​@@miniaddict4534Actually no. Honda ripped off the "Lobster" tail lights🙄🙄. The 2012-2014 Camry had them first, then the Accord ripped those off. Just like they ripped off the Prius' overall shape with the first Insight

[@ShaiyanHossain]

@@robertorazo4694 the first insight came to market before the first prius did. also the first prius was a sedan that looks nothing like the insight lmao

[@mulamulelilumadi4717]

The side profile of the Accord looks like a large sportback Audi sedan

[@fredjemal3689]

I actually appreciate the Accord side. profile and I like the flat front look. The rear lights look great to me. Doesn’t look cheap to me.

[@kevinbarry71]

The Honda hybrid physically connects the gasoline engine to the wheels at Highway speeds for reasons of efficiency. Otherwise there's conversion loss, twice

[@DavidSimpsonJr973]

Correct. I wonder if a V6 in the same setup livens things up and allows it to be put in their larger platforms.

[@tiredconnoisseur]

The fake shifts also dont use the clutch, unlike what Mark says. It is emulated purely by engine rpm. Thats why sportmode stops fake shifting at high speed for most power. Highest available power is with clutch disengaged so inverter can combine max engine power + boost from battery. Electric motor power is the limiting factor.

[@Fadic4]

The engine can also directly provide electricity to the wheels without going to the battery if needed as well.

[@vladdutz20]

Sometimes it blends the clutches into the simulated shifts, from standstill to 200kmh it starts electrical, continues with 1st clutch, disconnects it and goes into simulation, after that it continues with 2nd clutch and keeps it until maximum speed. You can notice the sprocket symbol in the center of the dash

[@kevinbarry71]

@@vladdutz20 yes, Honda isn't going to just drop the clutch. It will be smooth

[@KeithGowan]

I've got to say I watch your videos regardless of the format. I find you both entertaining as well as informative. Trust me, Zach, I know what it's like working with the pops. I worked with mine for a while. Still some of the greatest memories of my life. But the way you two play each other is hilarious. But you guys are also amazing at keeping up and abreast on automotive news. I'm pretty certain whatever you guys decide to do. I will still be an avid follower.

[@mikldude9376]

Wow , the algorithm 😊 , never been to this site before , it just came on and I like Japanese cars so I let it run , and I have to say I’m glad I did ! Guys , well done , an excellent in depth car video , instant subscriber . The only thing you guys didn’t mention was warranty and servicing that you could add if you wanted to , still from an old car guy that worked in the motor industry, great review. If I was to pick one over the other , I’m a practical old bastard first and foremost, having a proper spare wheel and jack in the back is a must , they both look like good cars though , the other thing for me is runs on the board , I know Honda puts cars together well , but Toyota has been making hybrids since Moses was a boy , so there is that. Regarding the user controls layout being very nice in the Honda , it actually reminds me of an old ford sedan from 2001 here in Australia that in some ways looked very similar and I loved it , most of the controls on my old ford I could operate without even looking away from the road, I do like simple common sense design. Although as you said there’s probably no right or wrong, I’d be leaning towards the Toyota, that’s just me. Cheers !

[@TommyPickIes]

Love when my car watches me like big brother.

[@mattclark1278]

I know we're talking CAMRYS and ACCORDS, but the proportions and shape of the Camry just look soooo much better. It's like the engineers at Honda tried to out-design Audi and gave up halfway through. The same design language works MUCH better better on the CRV

[@Quietmedows02]

I think the Camry exterior looks better this gen, Accord looks like a love child of a ford taurus and vw jetta. Interior of accord is better though imo.

[@someguyv1188]

We have S650 Mustang at home

[@iamatlantis1]

The true good looking Honda these days is that new Civic non-hatch. Best looking car they've made in a while.

[@downsouthlouisiana]

I disagree. The Camry will not age well. It's over styled. Accord looks more grown and sophisticated, but that's subjective.

[@labornurse]

I've always thought the latest Accords favor a Charger in the front, especially in white I have mistook it for a Police cruiser coming at me.

[@RK-db4oq]

Some of these comments about "boring" cars crack me up. Driving is what you make it. I used to drive a manual transmission Toyota Tercel 25 miles into NYC every day through traffic--top speed was 85 mph if you had the wind at your back. I had a blast driving that thing, wringing it out to redline with every shift, weaving in and out of the crazy traffic and around potholes, construction barriers, traffic cones, etc. A good friend owned a 911 around the same time. He never drove it above the speed limit. Guess who had more fun.

[@verynick]

100% agree. Rented both back to back and noticed how refined the drivetrain on Accord was. Looking forward on the Civic hybrid!

[@cdnstache]

The quilted dash and door panels on the Camry makes me yearn for more piano black.

[@samharmon5196]

I've been watching you guys for a while. Your content is top shelf. I'm happy with my '25 LE Camry that I picked up last week, you helped win me over to the refreshed model. Also Vulfpeck rocks.

[@Cap683]

Agreed. I bought the Camry LE with option package. As an entry level trim, I think that it is the car to get. It has more than enough "features". I did not AB it with the Honda but to get the same ride in a hybrid vehicle , I would have to go with Honda Touring trim. That is much more than I would be willing to spend on a new car.

[@brenttitus2134]

The better comparison would have been with the Accord Touring. Having a fully loaded XLE was not fair against the Sport-L.

[@Mark-eu6mc]

The accord hybrid touring is $39k. Not sure that’s a fair comparison.

[@brenttitus2134]

@@Mark-eu6mc That Camry XLE they used is $40k+. It was fully optioned out.

[@Mark-eu6mc]

@@brenttitus2134 I stand corrected (yikes that’s a lot of options.. XLE MSRP starts at $35k). But it was an availability issue; no Touring trims were available for filming.

[@presidentspilot]

Best review on the web!! Extemely comprehensive!! Great!!

[@johnbinder6988]

Another great video. I really appreciate the comparo videos and the time, effort, and logistics to be able to do it.

[@oversizedant]

Something I havent seen mentioned anywhere is the performance of the base audio system in the Camry. I wonder how much of an improvement the JBL is over the base system?

[@savagegeese]

We never got base car to test.

[@mrmysterious6006]

​@@savagegeeseprick

[@savagegeese]

@@mrmysterious6006 My Lawyers would disagree.

[@mrmysterious6006]

@@savagegeese Your still a prick but you have a great channel.

[@mrmysterious6006]

@@savagegeese ok

[@Atothen1234]

I’d love to hear about how well the driving assistance works ie radar cruise to and stop and lane keep asst especially on curvy roads and in stop and go traffic. I know it would take more time to make a review but it’s the most important feature for me at least for a commuter car.

[@alvinsimba734]

I will tell you as someone who owns the current vehicles in the 2020s and above. If you live in an area where the roads are bump and have potholes, the lane keeping assist is mostly useless as you would rather have it off. Radar cruise is good especially the adaptive cruise control in Toyota on the highway as that’s what’s I own. The one feature that’s underrated that you will enjoy is the automatic high beams. More useful than most features in my opinion

[@Ari--d]

yes i agree. I miss C-Net on cars and "checking the tech"

[@klyded8523]

I came here for serious business, but I shot milk out my nose when he pulled out the second chocolate long John 🤣🤣

[@iceman.83]

I was expecting this video for some time. Excellent job, great comparison touching the key differences, especially those in NVH. 👏 Kudos for going to the lengths using same tires for noise comparison, and stating beyond what the decibel numbers suggest. Fantastic job in driving impressions section explaining the difference in regen experience. Watched many videos, none of them was able to explain this level of detail. 👏

[@nicholaspetre1]

Accord is quieter and and drives and feels more refined and smooth etc. making it a better car overall. I ended up buying Camry. Super happy. No regrets except for one. Should have gone with an AWD instead of FWD.

[@kj.rising]

I went with the Accord as I preferred the drive. The Camry felt like I was riding on top of it where the Accord felt like I was riding in it. Both nice cars.

[@crystalwaters513]

what do you mean when you say “riding on top of it”?

[@kj.rising]

@ it’s tough to describe, i’d suggest test riding yourself. you may feel differently.

[@bluepoint4342]

Ok what about the Camry with no Panoramic roof. Is it quieter than the Accord?

[@sk-un5jq]

Toyotatards.. lol. Go to your local dealers and test drive both and you'll be blown away at how much more quiet, insulated, and refined the Accord hybrid is. It feels like a Lexus ES for $15k less.

[@alexnelson4295]

Why are you testing the Camry top trim vs the Accord mid trim?

[@nathanaelbennett8286]

And the Camry is more expensive than the Accords top trim anyway BEFORE dealer markup

[@mrnarason]

Yeah should have sport touring hybrid vs xse, or sport hybrid vs le

[@kylelangley8818]

Probably because that was the only trim available at the time of filming.

[@zoranm6432]

I’ve got a 2023 SL top of the line Camry Hybrid and it’s just brilliant. It’s by far the cheapest car to run I have ever owned, yet it’s big and comfortable and beautiful to drive. It’s actually appreciated in value since I bought it. I highly recommend the Camry Hybrid.

[@nicholaspetre1]

the best comparison video out there

[@yellowfr0g]

My takeaway from this video is bar donuts are called long johns in the midwest.

[@louiszhang3050]

I think people are being too harsh on the 11th Gen Accord just because the Accord wasn't quite as far ahead of the competitors as the 10th Gen Accord and it felt like there wasn't as much effort put into this generation specifically. But it's still a great car and still competes well with the Camry.

[@parkpy]

No rear Ventilation!?!? I can understand in the Civic, but not something bigger and more expensive. Then the lack of a spare tire!? Come on Honda…

[@VeyroneR]

U know when u turn on AC it doesnt matter if you have rear vents or not its gonna be cold in the whole Cabin ? Seems ppl dont understand that. So much crying about rear vents.

[@harsha_mnath]

Accord touring trim has rear AC vents

[@Marbind]

You never had passengers cold sensitive in the front right?

[@GB-hn9ir]

@@harsha_mnathand EX-L

[@Rew123]

​@@VeyroneRDon't act like you don't like some airflow on you. Are you saying you never turn on fans in your home, and instead wait for the AC to cool down the whole house?

[@TalismanPHX]

Definitely the Camry.... mainly because of the haughty Honda dealership in my (rural) area. Toyota dealership here is MUCH nicer to deal with.

[@BakhtimurodPrimov-e7j]

I recently got accord hybrid 2025 one. I am amazed. It is top notch sedan i feel. Smooth, comfort and incredibly fuel efficient (55 mpg combined on normal mode). I like the interior most. Colorful design as you said on video is completely subjective.

[@jltplease]

7:09 you would think that with all the cars released with infotainment systems throughout a decade, Toyota would know by now what users want to access by now.

[@fortheloveofnoise]

Tastess change with time...but it is more of just an excuse to sell data