Heretic and UrGoh (Circle of the Suns) | The Dark Crystal: Age of Resistance

[@GuukanKitsune]

The best part is that urGoh is entirely capable of speaking normally, as we see in the puppet show. He's literally just doing it to annoy skekGra.

[@TheEquus92]

GuukanKitsune or his speech was slowed down from whatever he was smoking

[@Linhdoesstuff]

I'm gonna go with annoying SkekGra, just because that's hilarious as hell and he did smoke to create the smoke for the puppet show.

[@gloriannavargas7536]

I agree that urgoh speaks normal and that the whole slowly speaking is just a way to annoy skekgra

[@amishrobots]

that hadn't even occurred to me, and it's hilarious

[@GrenzRell]

But isn't that just like pulling a prank on yourself?

[@RockSplitter]

“Yes! I AM alone. So very alone. YET! I’m also with MYSELF!”

[@Kongstudios2]

The moment I absolutely squealed with joy, you know totally in a manly, 28 year old man with two kids and a girlfriend kind of way 🤣👍!

[@josephgover5072]

@Kegan Woolley it means he is with his other half urgo' because they discovered they were the same being.

[@brianharris1464]

Or...is...yourself...alone...with..............yooouuuu?

[@SamK1281]

@@brianharris1464 THAT DOESN'T EVEN MAKE SENSE!

[@jhonnymark7581]

What I tell everyone.

[@gekkokkid]

"or does the surprise found you..." "urgh that doesn't make any sense!!" lol these two are just a gem.

[@Asher_Tye]

I kinda wanna see what the combined form was like.

[@LordZaxom]

I am 100% certain UrGoh says stuff like that and takes forever to say his name JUST to annoy his other half a little bit all in the name of fun.

[@TheFallofTheEleventh]

Heretic: these are the gelfling that found our message! Ur’goh: or..did the message...find...them? Heretic: erghhhhhhh! WOULD YOU JUST INTRODUCE YOURSELF!

[@DakNJaxter]

I kept expecting the Wanderer to just say 'bruh...'

[@jamesvogel85]

can we appreciate that urGoh had to put down a hookah when skekGra called him? No wonder he's the Wanderer, 'cause he was on a triiiiiiiiiip

[@MathiasPoupinais]

Heretic is such a good character, I like his personnality. I really enjoy the idea of seeing a "good" Skeksis, and even if he's completely crazy, he knows that what other Skekis are doing is wrong.

[@redomega24]

Best part of the series for me. Amazingly well done.

[@Scarshadow666]

I liked it too! Makes me wonder if we'll see a "bad" or an antagonistic Mystic in future seasons or if they're mentioned later (such as a Mystic that doesn't like any change to the status quo, or they're isolationist to the point of toxicity). ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[@Ratraccoon]

I wonder if he is motivated by a combination of self preservation and a quest for power. He might realize that he would be more powerful if he turned back into an UrSkeksis and has doubts about the claim that the Skeksis will be immortal after the 1000 year period. We know that Skeksis are evil but also capable of rational thought as long as they are not hooked on essence. Rational behavior often makes evil people align with good.

[@Scarshadow666]

kelaarin From what little there is that was shown, he didn't seem antagonistic to the Gelfings and Hup, and seems to be active with the Heretic in dissolving Skeksis power, so I'm not sure if he represents that. I was thinking of a Mystic that preaches about the "horrors" of desire or passion, something that the Skeksis have no trouble with. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[@Nortorock]

Does he have a metal post nail in his head?

[@jda4111]

The contrasting "conqueror" with "wanderer" is just pure poetry and I am living for it. Wandering as the opposite of conquering? Just *chef kiss*

[@loreenec8045]

I was wondering that myself. Maybe a wanderer travels purely for the joy of exploration, but the conqueror travels to claim new territory?

[@Wiktorino1984]

@Droxy 56 Conqueror where only Skeksis who saw true about mortality. That how he become heretic he turno off to true, becose other skeksis lifes for flesh. Its like body and soul. Conqueror where also most seeking skek, he only travel and with travel he could discover the true. In mythical way travelers allways discovers true.

[@ischeele7203]

But they can still go together, not all conquerors are great at actually running places they take over. Look at Alexander the Great

[@vgernyc]

I see it as a wanderer allows the experiences of being to new places to change who they are. Allowing them to grow as a being. Where as a conqueror goes out to control and change those new places they go to. One is subjective and the other is objective. Before their shared visions, perhaps the Wanderer did not share stories of his travels and The Conqueror did not care to learn of places and things of where he went. Now there is an overlapping and sharing of interests....a step closer to merging as one.

[@KajiCarson]

@@vgernyc Eloquently put. ❤

[@changelingman9687]

When Urgo revealed himself I freaking lost it. I hadn't even expected it to happen and I was so happy when I saw these two living together

[@johnthecrazed5679]

I did come up with a concept like this a while back. An outcast making friends with his other half.

[@ellie2041]

Corey Dunn Right?! Finally a Skeksi that knows the truth! And wants to make it right!

[@GreaterGrievobeast55]

John the Crazed ah good skeksis is something I think the dark crystal fans have been interested in seeing for a while!

[@warbossgrotsmasha23]

the skeksis know too well that if they harm the urRu they harm themselves and are content to leave them alone, when the urskeks split into urRu and skeksis, 2 skeksis killed their urRu counterparts and died as a consequence

[@AROBASPARK]

I jumped from my sit cause they kept the presence of this one seal shut. UrGoh was the one character they did not promote in anyway, and many were wondering who the Heretic was. I remember some believe skekGrah was a vanished skekVar. This is why when he reveal himself as skekGrah I was surprise, and jumped to the reveal of urGoh.

[@bryanegelhoffsanimationtec257]

I do love this concept. A Skeksi that WANTS to reform with his Mystic.

[@macrussell78]

@TheVoiceOfTruth He must construct additional pylons

[@darklessian]

@@macrussell78 the Dark Pylon

[@romualdcaffeserre6230]

Not enough minerals

[@anothenymously7054]

This is the meta

[@silverpslm]

Can't trully be whole without accepting your other half in true peace. I love how he is annoyed at the other yet accepts and honors that he is his equal. I can't wait to see Chamberlains Mystic to see how he is.

[@TreeckoJedi9]

We know that Urgoh can speak faster than when he was introducing himself. He totally prolonged his introduction just to annoy the hell out of Skekgra XD

[@valen123456]

All the Mystic/Skeksis pairs have a nice opposing symmetry to them. The Heretic resembles a cross between a celtic druid and a desert shaman, while UrGoh is a medieval wizard crossed with a indian/arabic magician.

[@miloskaluznik48]

Not to mention how polar opposite their behaviour is. UrGoh is as slow as a turtle, spewing "Wisdom", while the Heretic is almost hyperactive and seems more practical.

[@OkamiG15]

Also, the two conflict with the rest of their species... together? skekGra wears light colored, thin, and unadorned clothing compared to the other Skeksis, while urGoh wears darker, heavier, more decorated clothing than the other Mystics do.

[@TymeTraveling777]

Agree

[@Thoralmir]

@@miloskaluznik48 UrGoh's on pot, while SkekGra is on coke.

[@iona2225]

“We need this Mystic to be a bit more uh mysticaky and out there then the others, anyone got any ideas?” -“Make him high?” “... you perfect bastard...”

[@calamar1e320]

"Give that mystic a bong!"

[@potaterjim]

It kind of fits perfectly: Who else could be the opposite to the most zany skeksis?

[@TheCorrodedMan]

“I’m higher than the Empire State Building right now, my guy”

[@Maldoror2112]

SkekGra-- "UrGoh, put down the pipe for once in your life and get down here!"

[@grant9589]

@@Maldoror2112 Urgo--"Or...will the pipe...put ME...dooooooooowwwwwwnnnnn?"

[@FilmmakeroftheFuture]

When he said that he was "with himself", I thought he was nuts, and then I saw the mystic and thought, "oh now I get it!" (Remembering the film).

[@loreenec8045]

I knew what he meant before I even saw the mystic lol

[@FilmmakeroftheFuture]

@@loreenec8045 Clever person you are. :)

[@xandan1668]

Well this is the dark crystal it wasn't hard to figure out.

[@varric]

@@xandan1668 Everyone who had seen the movie know the reference.

[@jacosyutin3885]

@@FilmmakeroftheFuture Who isn't clever? When everyone should know how the skeksis and mystics exist by the crystal from the comic The Dark Crystal Creation Myth Vol 2.

[@ThanatorRider]

"The Heretic and Wanderer are based on Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas. We had a strong image of these two; they’re trying to look into the future but they’re not tapped into Thra, so the way they do that is by doing a large amount of drugs. So we thought of them as very much Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas, except one was on uppers and the other was on downers." -Jeffrey Addiss, writer and producer

[@rosesweetcharlotte]

I have an image in my mind of these two just wandering Thra in search of plants that will get them high AF.

[@pendafen7405]

sobbing at this oh my gods

[@Thoralmir]

"It's a fuckin' reptile zoo!"

[@57stuey]

You can tell the Heretic still has some leftover anger he tries to overcome.

[@Ozraptor4]

I'll bet the Wanderer is purposely drawing out his introduction just to watch his counterpart go apeshit. He's capable of talking normally when necessary.

[@Lightice1]

Well, the Skeksis are all about desire and instant gratification. The Heretic isn't really an exception, his desire just happens to be constructive and benevolent. But that doesn't keep him from going crazy from impatience because what he wants is right in front of him but he still can't have it.

[@GodWarrior7771]

The thing about the Skeksis and the uRu isn't that one is good and one is evil, it's simply a matter of scale. Skeksis experience passion while the uRu are more apathetic. The Skeksis have revelous joy while the uRu prefer simple pleasures. So the Heretic, while also being good, still functions this way. He's impatient and excitable while the Wanderer is slow and purposeful.

[@mickeye6428]

@@Ozraptor4 No. The Wanderer is stoned out of his mind. That's what's going on.

[@punkyllama420]

@@mickeye6428 CORRECT

[@darthgibsonlp6631]

0:05 I love how even the good Skeksis has a manic cackling laugh

[@ruthrichardson9717]

I legit got scared for a minute, like "oh no, he's gonna double cross 'em!" But the cheerful background music told me otherwise xD

[@wd3185]

Well, he is still a Skeksis.

[@darthgibsonlp6631]

@@wd3185 That was more or less my point but okay

[@brimstoneclub]

It helps that his VA is Andy Samberg.

[@bizarrebobcat]

God I love these two. The concept of two halves of one whole spending time together and wanting to be unified again is so cool. I love the contrasting personalities so much. Also Andy Samberg is great lol. Edit: Just found out UrGoh is voiced by Bill Hader, the casting for these two is so great.

[@EChacon]

Funny enough they both appeared in a couple of projects together such as SNL, the Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs films and a 2 part mini episode arc of Brooklyn Nine-Nine.

[@bizarrebobcat]

@@EChacon I know, I'm a really big fan of Brooklyn 99 lol. They're two of my favorite comedians/actors :)

[@christophercervantes5753]

It’s an excellent concept!

[@zachv465]

Also! UrGoh is Dark in complexion like most of the Skekkis and the Heretic is lighter toned like a mystic! 😄

[@eldermillennial8330]

Zachary Vindel Their original UrSkek self must have had a strange personality to begin with.

[@JordanVanRyn]

This is the most wholesome friendship I've ever seen in the history of Jim Henson films/TV shows.

[@i39darkblade]

You didn't expect this didn't you?

[@JordanVanRyn]

@@i39darkblade I did know about the Urskek story but it's just amazing to see this amazing relationship between a skeksis and a mystic.

[@stingerjohnny9951]

Mary Helsing its very unique to say the least. The Heretic got his title for a reason after all. I wasn't expecting this either, but found the idea a brilliant surprise that made sense

[@JordanVanRyn]

@@stingerjohnny9951 Also to make it even better, Andy Sanberg does the voice and I love Andy Sanberg! He's SO funny.

[@itexplodes3824]

friendship lol good joke

[@TheFallofTheEleventh]

I really love the attitude of the Heretic! Especially at 1:47 He treats his other half like an annoying brother with him getting annoyed at how slow he is 😂 SAY IT!!! JUST SAY WANDERER!!! YOUR NAME IS UR’GOH THE WANDERER!!!!!!!!

[@rosesweetcharlotte]

He's so hyperactive that it must be hell to have to wait for him

[@dariusbautistachopper]

Wanderer...

[@Asher_Tye]

"That doesn't even make sense!" Well they can't all be gems.

[@Kongstudios2]

Urgoh: Or *breathy pause* Can. They?

[@PlexusCaeruleum]

That line should be a forum weapon.

[@starcetus]

I died when they decided to tell the story with "the magic of puppets" 😂

[@firestepher72]

IKR!!! I laughed so hard at this part. I love how the Jim Henson company kinda poked fun at their very art. Brilliant!!!

[@AROBASPARK]

Jim Henson present Inception.

[@animewarrior08]

Thier puppet show was one of my favorite scenes in this series.

[@theheroneededwillette6964]

Must have been difficult to use puppets to use smaller puppets...

[@ImperialKnight770]

gotta admit though, that was a good puppet show.

[@movierates247]

This show is a work of goddamn art.

[@euclideszoto997]

True art! Absolutely. I thought CGI made this a lost art but thankfully there are those who are still around who can produce a movie like this.

[@arbitrarylib]

Awesome right

[@lisadooley3872]

And Netflix cancelled the series because they prefer child pornography instead of art

[@Welpme69]

@@lisadooley3872 Wait what?

[@lisadooley3872]

@@Welpme69 one word Cuties

[@CheshireCat-cm1si]

I absolutely loved these two. First of all, a good member of an evil race is one of my favorite tropes. Second, the acting/puppetry here is incredible. Third, I love the odd couples vibe here.

[@mickeye6428]

The Skesis aren't an evil race. They are just godlike and impatient. They are no more evil than their counterparts.

[@Vigriff]

Especially when the puppets do their own puppetry.

[@mickeye6428]

@Supertoast I call bullshit. Like two are materialistic. They clearly care about creatures other than themselves. That's why the Gelflings are still alive and prosperous at the start of the series. As far as them being greedy, they are lords of the entire world and their castle isn't filled with treasure. I's pretty spartan. Where are all of the golden spoils of war? The Mystics are not kind or gentle. They are slow and apathetic. Did the Archer try to Reason with the hunter? Fuck no. He shot the guy. You are missing a huge part of the lore.

[@orion24601]

@Supertoast I would say it's more of a spiritual vs carnal than good vs evil. Skeksis were benevolent initially, but carnal desires eventually overcame their morality. Mystics separated themselves from passions, but this also made them apathetic and distant. However, this lends itself to good vs evil in a roundabout way, depending on your definitions: I could argue that setting your morality aside for the satisfaction of your passions (in the Skeksis case, immortality) is a valid definition of evil.

[@telectronix1368]

@@mickeye6428 "Did the archer try to Reason with the hunter?" Well, yeah, but it fell on skeksis ears.

[@mikaela543]

Heretic and UrGoh are pure gold.

[@jordanelza8806]

Yes, they are. When they converse and argue, it brings a whole new meaning to talking and arguing with yourself.

[@EChacon]

I'm actually surprised that's Andy Samberg (Lonely Island, SNL, Brooklyn 99) doing the voice of the Heretic Skeksis. On top of that, the design for the Heretic is actually based on Froud's unused concept art for a Skeksis meant to appear in the Dark Crystal before being scrapped

[@kennethsatria6607]

Its no coincidence he loves making up characters and doing voices XD

[@Saber-ku7cu]

Also his mystic counterpart is voiced by the famous SNL star Bill Hader

[@grrgoyljones8793]

I was skeptical of Andy (nothing against him, just seemed out of place in this cast). But by the end of the scene I decided he was the best part of the series (some very much needed humor)

[@bencebotye3904]

@@Saber-ku7cu damn, I totally missed that information! This cast is insane! :D

[@PurpleSkull97]

Botye Bence Right?? It’s pretty much one of the best examples of balancing professional voice actors, amateur voice actors and celebrities in a voice cast

[@Mote.]

Heretic made me actually audibly laugh out loud, which doesnt happen a lot when i watch stuff. Andy samberg did a great job. I didnt even know it was him

[@TheVeyZ]

I really like that the creators made the tongues move. It really helps give a bit more life to the characters when they speak. Not just mouths flapping up and down.

[@taddad2641]

cgi tongues but put in so well that you struggle to realize that.

[@herpderp3916]

The little CGI accents like tongues and brow movements add so much life to the characters, it was a good call to have those effects to supplement the puppetry. Although, Rian always still looks a little bit sleepy.

[@DanielLopez-zt4ig]

Here I forgot I was watching puppets. Something in this scene dragged me and I was seeing a character in that Skeksis.

[@SergioLeRoux]

Yo, I herd you like watching puppets, so here's some scenes of puppets doing puppets.

[@arbitrarylib]

Me

[@d-man3589]

Its the ancient magical art of... Puppets... XD

[@natalie21294]

Andy samberg and bill hader crushing this duo

[@Johnlindsey289]

And also adult Richie from IT chapter 2

[@tysargent9647]

You can tell it's Andy. It sounds like one of his SNL roles.

[@Jill4ChrisRedfeild]

I still struggle to hear their voices, its amazing how talented they are!

[@ckillgore]

I wish there was like *any* interview where they talked about this performance.

[@ventus5628]

I swear, the Heretic steals the show for me every time he’s on screen Edit: sorry for the misspelling

[@noelmaldonado7829]

He really does

[@seanpatrickcain2]

my favorite character

[@henrymockingbird9645]

He my favorite of skeksis next the Chamberlin and the hunter

[@ischeele7203]

He took over Thra, now he must take over the scene

[@christophercervantes5753]

They’re like an old married couple!

[@zachv465]

Christopher Cervantes I think they’re now separated 😉

[@Sam-lb8xs]

Zachary Vindel Yet they know that their divorce isn't working 😉

[@striderhiryu2]

Mostly like the classic tv series odd couple.

[@andrewbrigmond8784]

@@Sam-lb8xs interesting way to look at the division of the UrSkeks.

[@stingerjohnny9951]

Christopher Cervantes Well, they ARE each other's other half 😏

[@otakugirl5512]

Andy was definitely having a lot of fun voicing this guy

[@Nathan-ti9pm]

1:53 I love Brea’s expression reacting to Heretic annoyingly shouting wanderer

[@haazimmalik1133]

Offensive side eye 💀

[@brianharris1464]

LOL!! Those two could have their own spin-off show...like a series of one or two-minute shorts!

[@brianharris1464]

I wish I could. If nothing else, I'll run it by them, though.

[@veelalynne]

For the love of god, do it. The world needs a heretic/ urgoh show.

[@Vosk21]

one of the best things about the show is how they were willing to come up with their own unique characters and scenarios which ADD dimension to the original films foundation rather than subtract or "subvert" from it. Lookin at you star wars

[@cjbroskin1327]

If i ever turn old than Heretic would be my spirit animal.

[@carlopannone5281]

Nice 👍

[@ischeele7203]

He's grandparent goals

[@stingerjohnny9951]

The Heretic is actually quite close personality wise to how the Skeksis were before they let their fear of death and desire for power overcome their morality. Yes he's impatient and irritable but he's also good hearted deep down and helpful to the other races of Thra.

[@WorldWar2freak94]

Stinger Johnny He’s also in much better shape physically than the others. He has all his teeth and has a healthier complexion than his fellow Skeksis.

[@stingerjohnny9951]

WorldWar2freak94 yeah the only skeksi like him physically is the Hunter. Seems the two healthiest Skeksis are the ones more in tuned with thra

[@soloragoldsun2163]

I love these two! Until told otherwise, I choose to believe that they stayed peacefully in the desert until the next Great Conjunction, where they were joined together when Jen healed the Crystal!

[@soloragoldsun2163]

@@kelaarin I have. urVa died, but I didn't see any sign of those two being hurt.

[@AROBASPARK]

@@kelaarin I have gone seen this: Those aren't robes, but table mantles, and these don't match with his robe color scheme (all white with red paint). Remember, when skekGra shut down Lore he put the Talisman on a table. He didn't have it with him when we last see Them. He may have been stabbed by skekMal in the hand, but I doubt that would be fatal as he had a bandage. Is likely the two ran off after their hiding spot had been discovered by skekMal, and since he did stated they were fugitives, this seems to be the more likely scenario, escaping through the Breath of Thra. Update: after Watching skekMal's attack again, Brea grabbed the Talisman trying to reawaken Lore and when skekMal takes her, the sudden shove actually threw the Talisman away. So it was even less on the Heretic at that point.

[@AROBASPARK]

@@kelaarin Hup said himself: When urVa was waking up Hup was about to run and seek help, but urVa stopped him on that moment. Who else would Hup had gone to for Help in the middle of a the desert?

[@Ozraptor4]

They'd still need the light of the 3-suns focused through the healed crystal for reunification. Still, one can hope...

[@mickeye6428]

@@Ozraptor4 Maybe, that isn't expressly stated.

[@dragonking1097]

They almost feel like Yoda if he was split in two.

[@xandan1668]

Yoda and gollum walk into a bar...

[@mickeye6428]

But actually helpful and not full of shit.

[@HarmonyWheeler]

I thought their voices were noticeably similar. Thought that might be on purpose.

[@Psychoclaw]

That is freakin' perfect!

[@Lemuel928]

Accurate.

[@NyuuMikuru1]

That’s not all, the Heretic is completely uncontaminated by the dark crystal. Sure he had some at first, he was off the that since then.

[@yamiblade]

How he's like what happens when someone manages to quit smoking for ten years. Lungs almost completely recover

[@phillipwalling7470]

A mystic and a Skeksis living together? *MASS HYSTERIA!!!*

[@BwooHuraca]

What is this, a crossover episode?

[@lisadooley3872]

I got the ghostbusters reference!!!

[@cameronmorris9868]

I like the Heretic, he's silly!

[@twilightjester5672]

huh, for a Skeksis, he seems ok.

[@daniellee8162]

He probably became my favorite.

[@S-N7]

He happens to be played by Andy Samberg which is good btw

[@mickeye6428]

@Julie Walker The Skesis get a bad wrap. Only a few of them are really that bad.

[@theheroneededwillette6964]

Mickey E a good portion are still jerks...

[@MegaFafnir]

"Mystics! Four arms, but only two legs, and neither good for much!" What a hilariously grouchy Skeksis XD And who'd have guessed he's voiced by Johnny from Hotel Transylvania?

[@anirbasnoel649]

I was shocked to see a Skeksis with its Mystic. I couldn't really trust Heretic when fist meeting him because Skesis are evil. He's cool I guess.

[@mickeye6428]

If I had to pick a favorite character that wasn't the Chamberlain, The Heretic would certainly be it.

[@mickeye6428]

@@bunganut98 She's cool. I respect any decision that isn't a gelfling.

[@mickeye6428]

@Jasper Sergio I like Deet okay, but she's the best of the Gelfling and still not as good as the least of the Skeksis.

[@bigpigeon2384]

Mickey E yes but what about podlings?

[@mickeye6428]

@@bigpigeon2384 Fuck podlings.

[@Kitkat_004]

Mickey E Even Hup?!

[@danieldb631]

"Or does the surprise have you?" "That doesn't even make any sense!" "... It's just a question, man."

[@carlopannone5281]

I love urgohs wisdom

[@Maldoror2112]

I've been trying to think of a scenario in which his statement makes sense. So far though, I've come up empty-handed.

[@beastwarsFTW]

The Wanderer give a sigh followed up with a "ya", he knew it didn't make sense after he said it.

[@jacobfoxall5633]

*Heritic:* "You know when we become one again. I hope our true self isn't intoxicated by whatever your smoking". *UrGoh:* "Eh...Its...all...fine...dude".

[@bdpchamp]

There’s so much love care and detail put into this series and it’s an absolute treasure.

[@halonostalgiatheater7440]

I really like how they’re showing the dynamics of the Skeksis and UrRu being more complex than just good and evil. In this case the two halves get along and are actually both (comparatively) good.

[@toomanyaccounts]

well the heretic used to be evil. extremely.

[@halonostalgiatheater7440]

toomanyaccounts going back to the uncommon dynamics

[@mickeye6428]

@@toomanyaccounts Why, because he won wars?

[@toomanyaccounts]

@@mickeye6428 because those wars had the skesis wipe out races such as those stitched up mouth guys.

[@GreaterGrievobeast55]

toomanyaccounts eh just goes to show even the most vile creatures can change for the better if they at least try to.

[@cameronpearce5943]

UrGoh & skekGra might be my favorite characters. I'm so sad that the only two UrSkeks that deserved to be reunified perished before they could. I hope they were rejoined in the next life.

[@SamK1281]

Nah knowing these two and how they act they probably showed up late for the Great Conjunction

[@MadamFoogie]

Now hold on. They were banished from the crystal castle, so they weren't in the direct presence of the darkening. We know the corrupted crystal caused the Skeksis to deteriorate rapidly. Maybe they were in good enough physical shape to survive? After all, the Hunter was remarkably fit, had the strength of ten Skeksis, and he lived a nomadic life. It's unlikely, but maaaaybe they just barely ran out the clock?

[@cameronpearce5943]

@@MadamFoogie We saw their robes discarded when Hup took Lore's crystal, so it seems that either they went for a streak, or they both passed on to hopefully a better, joined existence

[@MadamFoogie]

​@@cameronpearce5943 No! I guess I somehow missed that detail. Regardless, I'll go with your former option, because the mental picture is just delightful. After all, it must get terribly hot in the circle of the suns.

[@telectronix1368]

@@cameronpearce5943 Those weren't their robes.

[@MoonBeamsChild]

"Say it! Just say "wanderer"! Just get it out there! YOUR NAME IS URGOH THE WANDERER!" Gets me EVERY TIME! 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@WarriorBazooka]

From the moment I saw these two, I fell in love. The fact that they contrast each other in personality makes their dynamic very entertaining, and I love the concept of a Skeksis and their UrRu counterpart living together and wanting to be united as one again. Having seen the movie and everything though, it breaks my heart knowing that it's very likely these two will die before their soul is reunited, unless for some reason the writers pull a retcon (which wouldn't be truthful to the original's lore, in that case ... ) It's sad knowing that they very much wanted to be whole again.

[@thoughtfuldevil6069]

I would've thought a good skeksis was idiotic and ridiculous before I saw this. .....and it is, in the best possible way.

[@Xelku9]

If this is how these two act now, I wonder how they acted when they were whole!

[@Ozraptor4]

As the only two who genuinely wanted reunification, it's a shame they didn't make it to the Great Conjunction.

[@Xelku9]

@@Ozraptor4 Yeah. Stuck out in the middle of the desert.

[@RubyCarrots3232]

@@Ozraptor4 Perhaps, they were somehow able to do it independently. (That's just being hopeful though)

[@DanielLopez-zt4ig]

Probably very different, because one half "kills" he other half when together.

[@daniellee8162]

Balances them out.

[@avosmash2121]

Upon watching this first time, I just thought The Heretic was a cackling loony for comedy alone. But actually it makes great sense now! THESE 2 HAVE WAITED FOR CENTURIES to have their story finally told and the mission to start in order fill the prophecy. For a Mystic maybe the long wait is fine, they are full of wise calm patience. But to an impulsive and emotional Skeksis, this long wait must have been SO EXHAUSTING FOR HIM. He not only longs to be whole; but he is probably just SO sick of waiting and being abandoned by his clan. No wonder he acts so giddy and overjoyed at their arrival! He's basically screaming AT FINALLY LAST! HALLELUJAH! TOOK YOU LONG ENOUGH!

[@TheCorrodedMan]

“URGOH! GET OUT HERE AND GREET OUR GUESTS!” I love that line.

[@CyberJoeyO]

Absolutely love this dynamic of an evil half and a good half living together in harmony as friends. Seeking to repair imbalance together. Perhaps it’s a metaphor. A truly healthy person has achieved a balance and a harmony, of the positive and negative aspects of themselves.

[@dr.strangebat9397]

I was wondering if the Skeksis from the concept art had any purpose in the Dark Crystal universe! Now I know...exposition and was kicked out by his own kind for making a point!

[@MadamFoogie]

Yeah, when I saw that red paint/tattoo/whatever on his face, I recognized him instantly. Its' so cool that they decided to use the original concept art it such a unique way.

[@TheBlindRaven]

It's crazy that this is andy samberg and bill hader. When I found that out I was shocked. They did great. Everyone did. It was just a masterpiece.

[@Redstomp]

I absolutely adore the Heretic and the Wanderer! Such a brilliant comedic couple. Not to mention a wondeful, sad story, with these two wanting desperately to be joined back together. :)

[@aurumthebrave3427]

What a show. Every minute of this beautiful accomplishment is magic.

[@varric]

"How you dare to try to control SkekGra!" "SkekGra can't barely control SkekGra!"

[@Bekawolf1]

My two personalities.. Angry and easily annoyed me.. and the slow stoner me haha

[@silentkarma249]

I like when Deet’s the one that’s entertained, the others are looking at her like dafaq?🤨🤣

[@Queenmoreta]

with all the previews and new images I was most interested in seeing The Heretic, I was imagining maybe him and the Ritual Master didn't get along. That there may be a bit of rivalry between them. Just watching this clip makes me like the Heretic even more! :D

[@JWeb66]

The Heritic used to be the Conqueror until he and his mystic counterpart recieved a vision that showed that their kind would reunite again. When he tried to convince the other skeksis about this he was brandedva heritic and banished.

[@MrDoctorMabuse]

I will never forgive Netflix for not renewing this brilliant work of art. But I'm glad we got what we did.

[@JohnDoe-vn1we]

I was a huge fan of the original movie. I was so worried what this series would be like. They killed it!! I am so happy and could not love this series anymore.

[@Johnlindsey289]

You like Henson's other stuff like Labyrinth, Muppets, Fraggle Rock, Dinosaurs, Witches, Storyteller, Farscape, Ninja Turtles the movie etc.?

[@Gigas0101]

I think I could've liked it more... Mainly if there was more of it to like. Absolutely gutted that it didn't get a second season.

[@OsirisLord]

Every Skeksis is like "Oh boy scenery don't mind if I chew on it".

[@yosoyconsuela]

I have no idea what’s going on here, but Andy and Bill’s characters act like an old married couple.

[@ladisneyprincesse]

Yeah they do! I wonder if those low bass notes were Bill Hader's!

[@Youcancallmeishmaell]

They are one being split in two.

[@thema1998]

The Heretic had me dying. He's so impatient! 🤣

[@JotaP1n]

Puppets into puppets, puppetception.

[@CaptBarbosa77]

UrGoh = Me before coffee Heretic = Me after coffee

[@Adahleni]

Him having such good relationship with himself is really inspiring, we all must learn to love ourselves better and have a better relationship with ourselves

[@AnnaBellaChannel]

100% adorable. I love their opera which is them both being at peace and at one with each other. Just making music in true harmony even if it is strange song. Adorable. Also Lore could have been really useful later on. I am glad, I did not get to see these two cuties die.

[@rivini4585]

"Here we go!" Absolutely loved this whole part.

[@thewildcolonialboy8034]

Heretic seems like Big Bird's crazy uncle.

[@SamK1281]

I was laughing so hard at this, I loved these two. I know they're retconning but I wish these two could have been at the great conjunction, and btw in the book The World Of the Dark Crystal the skekGra is a younger Skeksis, they actually looked like that. And is it just me or do they seem like an old gay couple? ... I can just see these two showing up for the Great Conjunction late and then the skekGra the Heretic yelling at urGoh "he" knew they'd be late! And the cool think about skekGra he's wearing urSkek robe patterns... And this is so my high side vs my regular side

[@SlashTheWeasel]

I love these two too. And no you are not the only one they do act like gay couple. An extremely odd couple but I love it!

[@SauropodStudios1954]

You realize those two are the same person but spilt right?

[@SlashTheWeasel]

@@SauropodStudios1954 Um ya but how he/they are acting towards himself/urGoh. It is the best interaction ever!

[@SauropodStudios1954]

@@SlashTheWeasel hmm true thier interactions are quite wonderful

[@SamK1281]

@@SauropodStudios1954 Yes I have seen the Dark Crystal about 49 times

[@jasonalcatraz5817]

SkekGra: Loud, eccentric, crazed, impatient, irritable, direct. UrGoh: Quiet, tame, somber, slow, patient, cryptic.

[@ellnats]

"could you be any slower? Dont Answer That!"

[@KitChenBoyGOGO]

1:00 “eEeehhh, So SLO-OW!!!” 😂 *my favourite part* lol - the exasperation and annoyed sigh at the beginning cracked me up ‘cuz I thought the same

[@superscaryguy01]

Absolutely loved these two guys.

[@TheDivagirlfriend]

Love the look on Bria’s face when the Heri was telling his other half to hurry up... it was like ummmmmm ok......

[@phillise1]

This is my favorite scene in the whole movie/series. I also like the one in which urVa the Archer confronts his counterpart.

[@adrianrevness5724]

compared to the others of his kin Heretic aged quite well.

[@rosesweetcharlotte]

I think the implication is that all the evil actually made them age worse. They apparently used to look quite beautiful.

[@elisemarshall4957]

I think this is a really good concept in regards to mortality. The skeksis want to be immortal, however they look ugly even with the essence they drink. But the mystics look beautiful, and they have no desire to live forever. It is a mind bender, but it’s a lovely idea.

[@rosesweetcharlotte]

@@elisemarshall4957 The Mystics don't lool that good. They just don't look like they're literally rotting away.

[@elisemarshall4957]

Carly Crays I’ve always thought the mystics look beautiful, it is their aesthetic I love. Haha, just shows I am one of very few that think this 🤣

[@CaptainKotetsu]

Elise Marshall I think they’re beautiful too, in an old Jedi master kind of way. Yoda was 900 years old but retained his grace and elegance, both of which were accentuated by his preference to live in nature. The mystics also live in the wilds and immerse themselves in that which gives them life, rather than steal life as their dark halves do.

[@ruthrichardson9717]

I cracked up when I saw who played these two, this part was the absolute best! 10/10 would watch over and over again! XDD

[@ladyanime100]

So how many noticed that the titles of the episodes were quotes from the movie?

[@purpledragon1945]

"One piece was lost" and "End begin all the same".

[@thewhompingwampa2671]

"Time to make... My Move."

[@dragonheart8706]

I would never have guessed that deep, slow voice was Bill Hader... Very cool. 😊

[@jordanelza8806]

I love SkekGra and UrGoh. They are the only UrRu/Skeksis pair that are not only connected, but actually living together. 0:24 , 0:36 and 1:30 SkekGra is certainly a very unique and lovable Skeksis, since he actually cares about his counterpart and wants them to reunite as UrSkeks. SkekGra is totally crazy and UrGoh is obviously very “slow”, in more ways than one. Regardless, they are arguably the most unique and important of their kinds.

[@WhiteSwarm]

"A good Skeksis. This is awesome!" Skekgra: I am alone, so very alone. Yet, i'm also with myself! "Wait a minute, what's is he talking about..." Skekgra: Urgoh?!? "OH MY GOOOOOOOOOOD DOUBLE AWESOME"

[@theatergeek82]

With both voices from SNL, I thought they would say : "Live from Thra it's Saturday Night"

[@henrymockingbird9645]

Heretic has to be the best skeksis next to the chamberlain

[@phillipwalling7470]

I like SkekMal, the Hunter Skesis and the general turned Emperor Skesis, SkekUng.

[@herpderp3916]

I lovw how urGoh literally gets introduced doing a fat rip off a bong. These two are really just out here doing drugs in the desert together.

[@saracroughan529]

I love the part when Lore hugs Brea and the Heretic says “ Ha! He never hugged me like that! But why should he? We only gave him Life!!!

[@feralmysteries7445]

"Or does the surprise have you?" "Uh.. *that doesn't even make sense.* "

[@1994moviebuff]

I’m imagining Andy Samburg in the recording studio perpetually making a face like he has to poop.

[@steph0711]

I absolutely loved the part where Rian is like: "uh, you're a Skeksis" and the Heretic is like: "I'm a what!?" lol One of the best characters, the Heretic and the Wanderer.

[@geeker6350]

Can we just get a spinoff show with these two? I could watch them interact all day.

[@supersmashproductions9890]

I wish these two had a sitcom

[@wiilov]

In which Madness begets Enlightenment

[@redomega24]

This show deserved a LOT more attention.

[@Johnlindsey289]

Yup it's a masterpiece of art

[@deonaustin9575]

I love there is a Skeksis that is in harmony with is better half. And is kind of like a brother to him.

[@coralroper6876]

Anyone else getting a hippie vibe from these two? Especially with UrGoh smoking what looks like a hookah?

[@veelalynne]

Or a bong.

[@henrikandreason7261]

They are based on the main characters in fear and loathing in Las Vegas. According to the backstory they smoked a lot and ate a lot of hallucinagetic "berries" to help them see the vision they had 😂😂

[@coralroper6876]

@@henrikandreason7261 Huh. Neat.