Kind of wish we had more gauntlets(its their debut after all) and bows but its too late for that i guess
@runekatgaming33944 жыл бұрын
We didnt even get gauntlets till DLC so... thats great...
@coder-c69614 жыл бұрын
What are the accessories relic.
@runekatgaming33944 жыл бұрын
Like, shields, staffs, those things in off hand
@AkameGaKillfan7774 жыл бұрын
Agree with the Gauntlets, but I'd probably forget about them and just use Killer *Unlike Sonic, I don't chuckle, I'd rather flex my muscles* anyway.
@superfrubblez61234 жыл бұрын
I would put failnaught in S tier because it’s one of 2 relics with 2 range and the only relic with 3 range. Fallen star is also a really good combat art with high hit, crit, and might. Not to mention the free dodge. Just as good as the sword of the creator imo.
@zacharyyoungblood70134 жыл бұрын
Personally would keep it in A tier and move SotC to A as well. Personally didn't find it as useful as other weapons.
@superfrubblez61234 жыл бұрын
Zachary Youngblood yeah in my personal tier list it was below failnaught and sublime creator sword were below thyrsus and Aymr but above thunderbrand and areadbhar. Having a powerful range option is just too good
@joelsasmad4 жыл бұрын
The sword of the creator is mad overrated.
@ahumanbeingfromtheearth15024 жыл бұрын
The main issue with the creator sword is it's locked to byleth, so unless you have byleth as a flier the opportunities to use it are limited. I feel that if anyone could use it it would be an easy s tier considering how repairing it is rarely an issue.
@joelsasmad4 жыл бұрын
@@ahumanbeingfromtheearth1502 It is not any easier to repair then any other relic though? If you mean the resting thing you are giving up time that could be used to improve your character's skills, get stat boosting items, give units max motivation for lessons instead of only 50%, grind supports, or do a bunch of other things that are way more valuable than the Umbral steel you'll be swimming in by later in the game.
@MeatOfJustice4 жыл бұрын
The only change I'd make is Thyrsus above SotC and Aymr because any mage can use it while the other 2 need a specific user to be up there.
@ahumanbeingfromtheearth15024 жыл бұрын
I can understand that with sword of the creator, but amyrs effect is too broken for it being edlegard exclusive to hold it back. You could argue that the difficulty of repairing amyr compared to thrysus not having to worry about that could put it's utility above that of amyr, which is much more debatable.
@deltoasuka70854 жыл бұрын
Yea no aymr effect to kill 6 enemies in one turn 7 with a dancer its way way to good also she will oneshot most enemies with it too so you can use its effect without worrying about taking damage like some weaker relic combat arts plus you can end most maps in one turn without warp the only downside is repairing it and thyrsus yes while it can be used on any mage i find is best on lysithea becuase she is so reliable at killing things esspecially in maddening where most offensive mages just cant onshot the way she does without support and if for some reason she doesnt get the oneshot she is also one of your fastest mages and will probably avoid a double i do agree it should be above the sotc
@fluffydemon13 жыл бұрын
If we're taking new game + into account, I'm pretty sure you can have anyone use amyr if they have the crest of seiros
@uberlord9833 жыл бұрын
Now imagine someone like Jeralt rocking Aymr. He already comes packed with a Crest of Seiros, so no damage after combat, his stats are through several roofs at once, his unique skill, Blade Breaker, makes sure that if an enemy were to somehow survive a turn of combat, they're not doing a damn thing on the enemy phase.
@DBZMacky4 жыл бұрын
Even if there isn't a ridiculous amount of editing like, say, Chaz's videos, I do appreciate the daily dose of Fire Emblem content from this channel. Helps through these trying times. Also, Thyrsus best Hero's Relic. Fight me.
@bernadettavarley4 жыл бұрын
Fetters of Dromi are a close runner up....
@miiko89244 жыл бұрын
I agree
@N0MoreZER0S4 жыл бұрын
Hey you’ll get no arguments from me.
@joelsasmad4 жыл бұрын
Godlike
@dddmemaybe4 жыл бұрын
I mean it doesn't even lose durability while still giving a grand effect. It only weighs one as well. The Felix shield would be a lot better if it weighed the same as a silver shield at 4. Felix is already broken though and he likes aegis and pavise pretty well.
@madeleine82744 жыл бұрын
Just as a note, the "bh" in Areadbhar is pronounced as a "v" (Irish pronunciation rules). I'd argue that failnaught could be S tier. 3 range is so useful and Claude gives it to you in Azure Moon, which is awesome. Otherwise, fun vid.
@joeywild20114 жыл бұрын
Spoiler -_-
@bernadettavarley4 жыл бұрын
@guywfarting77777 Smash isn't canon, they've gotten several things wrong in the past. That being said Dimitri pronounces it with a 'B' sound in Azure Moon.
@ThisIsntAYoutuber4 жыл бұрын
guywfarting77777 They pronounced “AYmr” as “AmEER,” so I can’t take Smash pronunciation seriously.
@diamondman2034 жыл бұрын
@@joeywild2011 game came out 9 months ago...
@rhettmitchell4 жыл бұрын
Albert S. Still shouldn't spoil things lol not everyone interested in it gets it day one
@Sidnv4 жыл бұрын
The list is really solid . I'd definitely put Lance of Ruin and Thunderbrand higher though just out of sheer availability. You get Ruin so early and it is by far your best weapon at the time aside from the sword of the creator. And Thunderbrand is a super early weapon too But it's possible you aren't really taking availability into account, in which case I don't have any disagreements.
@erosaphrodite47144 жыл бұрын
More ever sylvain gets access to swift strikes which turns the lance of ruin into a brave weapon
@nicksinmas60373 жыл бұрын
I agree, the lance of ruin has an immense attack at the cost of not having much chance of hitting, but this can be compensated if the character has c - b on spears
@humbl-ir2tv3 жыл бұрын
you mean subline sword of creator?
@sorenfan19644 жыл бұрын
You're really underselling the lance of ruins high mt
@FSSmash4 жыл бұрын
Yeah the lance of ruins mt is ridiculous and considering how fast you obtain it, makes it around A Tier
@naiRISE7664 жыл бұрын
Right. Lance of ruin swift strike is a delete button.
@bobfan28214 жыл бұрын
it is the most reliable way to kill death knight other than lysithea. Lance of ruin+knightkneeler. It also easily kills lots of early game bosses.
@thrasher6984 жыл бұрын
Yeah, Lance of Ruin is outright the strongest lance in the game in the department of pure weapon might. it's also really fun to use to set up Vengeance for Dedue since it saps his HP each round due to no crest.
@Choops69694 жыл бұрын
I know u gotta put something in C tier, but I highly recommend picking up Rafail Gem for SS Maddening.
@kalcite27444 жыл бұрын
Mercie has a considerably low lucky while high res, making her a competitive dark flyer. Rafail gem here has its uses for mitigating one shot delete from sniper and negating crit from tanking death, fimbuvetr.
@GuardsOfNohr4 жыл бұрын
I feel like if your trying to iron man the crit and effectiveness nullification can be really useful
@remlapwastaken88574 жыл бұрын
Wait, why did you put Lorenz instead of Lysethia for Thyrsus?
@ethangoff47054 жыл бұрын
It's Lorenz's paralogue to get it
@remlapwastaken88574 жыл бұрын
@@ethangoff4705 sorry, should've /s at the bottom.
@IPromiseTomorrow4 жыл бұрын
@@ethangoff4705 oh it was part of the joke.
@ethangoff47054 жыл бұрын
Oh lol
@GuardsOfNohr4 жыл бұрын
I like Dimitri's insta delete button i personally would rather have that then a galeforce axe probbly a unpopular opinion
@Starwars-Fanboy4 жыл бұрын
It's even more broken than galeforce, you don't need to kill to move again, just hit and you can keep doing it until your durability is to low. If you rally and stride you can 1 turn maps. It's the most broken combat art in the game.
@GuardsOfNohr4 жыл бұрын
@@Starwars-Fanboy i play on maddening
@Starwars-Fanboy4 жыл бұрын
@@GuardsOfNohr Meaning ?
@hyperstargaming61504 жыл бұрын
Starwars Fanboy probably opponent level power creeping and ridiculous stat increases to all opponents. I have no other explanation though.
@GuardsOfNohr4 жыл бұрын
@@Starwars-Fanboy the stats on most bosses in maddening are extremely high and edelgard will most of the time probbly not survive against most bosses
@moberlysquad674 жыл бұрын
Luin’s combat art is actually really good. I personally would rank it higher. And Aymr is obviously broken, but I feel like because it’s combat art really only allows a few uses each time, it isn’t as good as it really should be. Maybe I’m just dumb though. And Lance of Ruin should absolutely be higher. Incredible damage and you get it so early in the game. Other than that, pretty good list
@snakeusa78854 жыл бұрын
He didn't rank them on availability. If he did The Lance if Ruin would be an easy A class. Edit: I cna spel real goodly.
@superfrubblez61234 жыл бұрын
Burning Quake (Luin's combat art) has the lowest base damage additive for a relic art besides the unevolved sword of the creator. It does scale damage off of speed but at the point at which your speed is high enough for that to really matter, you're often better off just doubling. Not to mention that it only reaches crazy damage because of ingrid's ridiculous speed growth but when analyzing in a vacuum and not based on character (which is what he;'s doing in this video), it wouldn't be as strong.
@bruhbruh43294 жыл бұрын
Lance of Ruin's combat art. Alternatively: swift strikes.
@goatprincek36024 жыл бұрын
The Aymr, even without Raging Storm, is still among the high end for might of the axes and therefore, the whole of CF.
@conorb.19014 жыл бұрын
@@goatprincek3602 in fact, Amyr is the highest might axe (and probably highest might weapon, though I'm unfamiliar with enemy only ones so I might be wrong) at an astounding 24 might.
@nathankeel66674 жыл бұрын
Id argue lance of ruin and thunder brand deserve highee because of there availability vary early on
@hyperstargaming61504 жыл бұрын
Nathan Keel and Thunderbrand is legit 10 uses higher than the other offensive weapons.
@hyperstargaming61504 жыл бұрын
Nathan Keel oh, and Vajra-Mushti, but that’s limited behind a $25 pay wall, so I don’t count it really. I still haven’t got it, can’t afford it rn.
@snakeusa78854 жыл бұрын
*for goodness sake he was ranking them on their built-in stats and skills, not availability*
@hyperstargaming61504 жыл бұрын
Snake USA Snake USA I get that, that’s all well and good, but $25 is $25 that a lot of people don’t have to get 2 Hero’s Relics and a side story I wouldn’t exactly call worth that price tag... neither is anything else you get with the package. The main game is fine, and I feel that Vajra-Mushti shouldn’t be in the same class as Thunderbrand because 1. They’re different weapons. 2. Pay wall, not paying $25 just to get a relic that may or may not be of use later on in the main story, because whatever. I’ll splurge it out when I feel I can waste Twenty-Five unnecessary dollars. 3. It’s a Gauntlet weapon, ALL gauntlets guarantee 2 hits, unlike swords where only the Brave Sword and Thunderbrand guarantee 2 hits. If you don’t see where I’m getting at, you’re hopeless. They shouldn’t be disregarded from the tier lists, but in terms of very specific things, yeah. If this upsets you, just know I was being really fucking tame, I am honestly pretty heated that you didn’t read the comment and try to understand the context before commenting back at me.
@nathankeel66674 жыл бұрын
@@snakeusa7885 also when your ranking anything in fe avibilty is important
@l.n.33724 жыл бұрын
The Lances are way too low IMO. Luin is light, decent might, great combat art for Ingrid. Lance of Ruin is high damage for Sylvain with swift strikes for a free delete button. Both are far better than Freikugel, Crusher or Blutgang. The magic weapons are decent but they don't have the overall utility, and they're pretty niche. And Freikugel is a low hit axe, while powerful, isn't better than the 2 Lances.
@AkameGaKillfan7774 жыл бұрын
I just stick with magical 1-3 range weapons, and even then, I always feel like I should have the right Prowess ability equipped.
@creepershulker25264 жыл бұрын
There should be an SS tier reserved for Thyrsus.
@PaulZeroSolis4 жыл бұрын
Thyrsus teir's true name: "Lysithea is now portable 4 range Nuke. Lorenz? Who's that? Thyrsus belongs to Lysithea."
@inept72474 жыл бұрын
my maddening blue lions route I put my assassin Felix in Edelgard's range by accident when dealing with her demonic beasts at gronder, she used her Aymr combat art literally like 5 times in a row and hit a total of none of them.
@thelaw69414 жыл бұрын
If you don't hit with the combat art the galeforce effect doesn't work so unless you kept her alive for 5 turns after getting in her range that isn't possible.
@altha2014 жыл бұрын
@@thelaw6941 nope. it works even if you didn't hit with it
@AkameGaKillfan7774 жыл бұрын
@@altha201 It's not the only mistranslation. *Glares at Astra*
@AkameGaKillfan7774 жыл бұрын
I swear I must be the only person in the world that Edelgard always Gambits me instead. Also that Miklan never moves on his own.
@godzillaaccount26724 жыл бұрын
@@AkameGaKillfan777 no the ai targets you with the gambit if the hit is higher then the weapon hit.and because edgelord has high charm it will more often use gambit then most of the game units
@Jaxelh4 жыл бұрын
One thing to note is that the Crest of Flames lets you use every Relic Weapons' Combat Art. AKA Aegis Shield on Edelgard is 10/10 EDIT: It may only apply for Byleth and not Edelgard, sorry for the potential lie!
@DeltaTried4 жыл бұрын
Really? Didn't know that.
@danvocals1234 жыл бұрын
Oh shit WHAT! 350 Hours in and now i know
@DeltaTried4 жыл бұрын
@@danvocals123 man, and I thought my 235 hours or so was bad.
@jokechi86974 жыл бұрын
BRUH WHAT? DUDE YOU GOTTA BE PULLING MY LEG
@Starwars-Fanboy4 жыл бұрын
Since when ????
@SvanEsch1234 жыл бұрын
Damn it took me till watching this video to realize Edelgard is the only Eagle to have a heroes’ relic
@failure44524 жыл бұрын
And in technical terms, it’s not even a Heroes’ Relic, it’s an artificial Crest Stone Weapon
@jokerpersona55324 жыл бұрын
The best use for Mercedes’a relic is for flying units like Ingrid or Constance because bows are such a problem for low hp units and the aegis shield was good for Felix because he has low hp and movement isn’t really a trouble if you use the movement buff they give you from beating cindered shadows
@rhettmitchell4 жыл бұрын
I think with the DLC though, the Rafail Gem is more useful since I made my Mercedes a dark flier and also gave her extra movement and the Caduceus staff for extra range and quickly brought her to S reason and faith for the extra range
@Tom-vx7qh4 жыл бұрын
I spent a good part of part 1 farming "Monsters in the Desert" to get tons of Agarthium, and in part 2 I spammed the hell out of Raging Storm
@snakeusa78854 жыл бұрын
You should do sacred weapons next!
@hero_of_isaach4 жыл бұрын
Are you ranking the Sword of The Creator and Sublime Creator Sword differently? They have VERY different stats. I would say Sword of The Creator is B tier, but Sublime Creator Sword is easy S tier. Also, Felix's Aegis Shield is really only useful if he is in Grappler. It makes it easier to get Weight -3 and it increases his Dexterity, allowing for higher proc rates.
@scorpioneldar4 жыл бұрын
I use it on mortal savant build with Felix. it is a strong shield with a nice passive that buffs itself (more dex increases the trigger rate.) and it is very low weight.
@AkameGaKillfan7774 жыл бұрын
I use it on Fortress/Great Knight builds for Defiant Defense, though most of the time it's redundant. Yeah I use armored classes, don't @ me.
@CAPAE4 жыл бұрын
Included Felix's Sword of Moralta, but overlooked Claude's Sword of Begalta?
@ikr7854 жыл бұрын
Aegis shield not sword of moralta
@CAPAE4 жыл бұрын
@@ikr785 My bad :P Forgot
@chrislemay38074 жыл бұрын
Both of them aren't Relics lol
@ikr7854 жыл бұрын
@@chrislemay3807 Aegis shield is Fraldarius's relic
@Xane8754 жыл бұрын
@@ikr785 He was referring to the Sword of Moralta, not the Aegis shield. He was responding to OP, not to you.
@MineNAdventurer4 жыл бұрын
Areadbhar should be higher tbh cause it is very very powerful in it's ability to one hit obliterate any foe. 19 Mt making it one of the strongest weapons only surpassed by like 7 weapons in total, 4 of them being refined, and gives a rediculous amount of damage when using Atrocity with 2x Mt and adding 15 extra Mt as well. Basically meaning when using this weapon you'll have a 68 Mt weapon. Then you have a chamce to double your damage when using Atrocity as well that to say the damage potential with Areadbhar is ridiculous is an understatement. So in total when Atrocity is out your 19 Mt lance goes to 68 Mt to all foes. Meanwhile most combat arts only target one or maybe two different enemy types. Also due to being effective against every foe, he can break ?onster and Demonic Beast Sheilds in one hit as well.
@AkameGaKillfan7774 жыл бұрын
19×2+15=53, not 68
@MineNAdventurer4 жыл бұрын
@@AkameGaKillfan777 Combat mt is added to the weapon might so if you have a 10 mt weapon and a 5 mt weapon with 3x effectivness it ends up as 45.. Though I might be wrong
@AkameGaKillfan7774 жыл бұрын
@@MineNAdventurer Combat Arts that deal effective damage only double Mt. They don't triple it like Armorslayers, weapons that deal effective damage on their own.
@rage_20004 жыл бұрын
*Sword of the creator:* S tier 1. Good Range 2. Really good combat art 3. It spikes of level at high percentages
@Fin0fLenster4 жыл бұрын
I think you're really underselling the Aegis Shield by thinking about it within the context of Felix. The stat boost to protection is incredible on characters who are more bulky or going for more bulky builds. As an example you can reach 0 damage against the Remire Death Knight encounter even on Maddening on a Fortress Knight with the Aegis Shield and a proper Battalion alongside some gardening. You don't even need a single point of Defence on level ups to achieve this benchmark. It also helps that you get it quite early while enemy attack can be somewhat low where it will have the most impact. Like even without gardening or defence level ups a Fortress Knight with the Fraldarius battalion (using that since it comes with the Shield anyways), the Aegis Shield, and Defence +2 will AT BASE have 41 protection. Enough to easily trivialize almost all of Part 1 from the physical side. Garden as the game goes along and put this onto a character with an okay Defence growth and they'll generally be able to keep trivializing physical damage throughout the vast majority of the game. As an alternative you can throw it on a high Res magic user alongside something like the Gloucester Knights with the Defence gardening and have an absurdly bulky mixed bulk magic user. It isn't as easy to just slap on anyone and get use out of but if you build for some bulk then you can get an exceptional amount of mileage out of the Aegis Shield and even trivialize much of Maddening in large part thanks to it.
@pastherolink71814 жыл бұрын
but even for felix on maddening it lets him actually take hits while he will never be able to double the fast units like swordmasters and assassins and while he will still be able to most likely double the units he could without the shield and if he needed to he could just take it off and put on a speed ring and someone can trade him the shield to equip if he would die from a hit as well i think people really undervalue the aegis shield just because its 6 weight even though weight -3 exists with felix can get without too much trouble because he doesn't have a weakness in armored
@Tez3654 жыл бұрын
Do you mind if I use this info, I needed some exact statistics for the aegis shield and pavise build for a video I plan to make, this helps me a lot.
@Fin0fLenster4 жыл бұрын
@@Tez365 Go for it.
@Tez3654 жыл бұрын
@@Fin0fLenster thanks
@bobino46463 жыл бұрын
Such disrespect to Felix. He can be a front liner with that thing and having his crazy damage dealing out on the front lines is incredibly useful.
@LifeAdmiral4 жыл бұрын
Crusher in A tier? I approve. Annette is one of those secret bosskillers in Azure Moon that gets overlooked because her name isn't Lysithea. I think Dust can OHKO bosses in the lategame just because Annette's Magic is pretty solid (50% growth) with solid Speed growths beside it to bolster her Avoid (in fact, her Avoid against magic users is also solid thanks to a relatively high Luck growth too) meaning that she can actually get to bosses without dying. The problem comes with base 5 Move in Gremory but this is the single most low-Move friendly game in the series so it's not too much of a big deal. And the kicker for Dust? Super-effective against Dragons and it comes with -5 Def debuff. Is it dead yet?
@Coreyographed4 жыл бұрын
Rafi Broer my Wyvern Lord Annette agrees and ignores the Gremory movement option
@OkOk-yv1fx4 жыл бұрын
I think that the accessorys are the best in the Game because ,you can let anyone use them but if you give it to an unit with the right crest, the pavisse and aegis effects of the relic will activate based on your dexterity stat, not only that, the normal pavisse and aegis skills stack with the relics and if you have the right crest item half of your dexterity stat will get added again for example: Felix with the aegis shield and a dexterity of 50 50% chance to perk From his crest + 25% Chance from the pavisse and aegis skills + 25% Chance from the crest item =100% So you basically have double your defenses for Lorenz/Lysithea,yuri,felix and mercedes
@89ji764 жыл бұрын
This is a hella useful video for a tier list. Gotta know who to recruit
@noahdukat19683 жыл бұрын
I only found out recently that you could get the repair material for relics off of monsties. Makes sense now, really. Why would they put 20 use weapons in the game with special extra durability costs if you couldn’t repair them?
@tahamohammad88424 жыл бұрын
I think the lance of ruin should go to A tier simply because of how early you can get it and how it stays consistently useful throughout the game
@shaik100_4 жыл бұрын
Changes I would make 1. Lance I’d ruin should be higher due to availability 2. Thrysus should be past aymr but not past sotc 3. Luin past freikgugel 4. Failnaught at front of A or back of S
@danvocals1234 жыл бұрын
Great content i honestly would've liked to hear you talk about all of this even more. I'm sure newer players would like to hear all about the different combat arts/pitfalls etc
@niveauabulle52054 жыл бұрын
The idea of everyone throwing Thyrsus around on the battlefield is honestly really funny
@donk36184 жыл бұрын
These their lists have been pretty nice
@louiesatterwhite38854 жыл бұрын
4:07 it's not free dodge on next attack, it's free dodge for the entire next round of combat.
@enduringidealist4 жыл бұрын
Wait, really? I played VW on normal so I never needed it. Is this from your own experience?
@louiesatterwhite38854 жыл бұрын
@@enduringidealist to be frank, the enemies on hard mode in the end game only had around 10-20 hit on my Claude, so it might only proc on an attack that would otherwise hit.
@psrabe74444 жыл бұрын
You have to look at value over replacement for these meaning what is the next best item the character would be using. For example, crusher is only 2 might more than bolt axe+ but bolt axe+ as a range of 1-3. That is not worth giving up for a character with not great defense. Also you slept on Failnaught's combat art which allows Claude to avoid all attacks during the next round of combat meaning he can safely initiate on any boss in the game with his combat art and not take damage. That should be s tier.
@AkameGaKillfan7774 жыл бұрын
No, he did mention Fallen Star
@jaredkhan87434 жыл бұрын
Jesus I never realized how many relics r in blue Lions lol
@xynix15494 жыл бұрын
Azure Moon can get every single Relic (except Aymr if you count it as a relic), which is some pretty crazy stuff.
@absoul1124 жыл бұрын
The only thing I really disagree with is Rafail Gem. Nullifying crits and effective damage is nice as hell. Yes, I know you can dismount, but this mean you don't have to. Also considering how early you can get the Lance of Ruin, I'd put it one rank higher.
@ebicbarton4 жыл бұрын
Real nice vid! It's good to see new FE vids every day! It really makes you feel the community is really trying y'know? But, yeah great vid, I was actually looking for a vid like this
@AliothAncalagon4 жыл бұрын
I honestly thought giving the sword of the creator S rank was meant as a joke at first. Its the only relic I have a hard time trying to deal more damage with than with a steel sword. Compared to your B-Tier Freikugel that has a power level literally off any chart its hard to take anything from this list seriously.
@zophyissleepy4 жыл бұрын
Finally ur vods r showing up in my yt feed. Aymr's combat art is on crack
@karmenion10 күн бұрын
Thunderbrand can also be used by Lysithea, which I obviously did on my first playthrough because Child Mortal Savant funny
@dominikpetrovic58804 жыл бұрын
as long as someone has a crest no matter which one, they wont take any damage from using different relics
@dominikpetrovic58804 жыл бұрын
@Nerfed Nosferatu yeah the goddess ring description it says it has the divine protection from the goddess. So im guessing thats their little hint.
@dominikpetrovic58804 жыл бұрын
damn i tried out using the goddess ring on petra with thunderbrand and it didnt work. i think if the user has a crest no matter which one it will work. when i first discovered it i was using bernadetta and failnaught.
@Jarblade1014 жыл бұрын
I see you didn't spam atrocity enough.
@donk36184 жыл бұрын
Spamming bit costs a lot of umbral steel
@conorb.19014 жыл бұрын
@@donk3618 especially with Dimitri's Crest breaking his weapons faster for using arts
@ResurgentRaven4 жыл бұрын
I think the thing is Areadbhar is kinda useless when Dimitri can pretty much destroy most things with a basic steel lance. Still, having the same effect as War Master's strike does make it the most powerful in terms of raw combative power.
@AkameGaKillfan7774 жыл бұрын
@@ResurgentRaven It's even stronger because it adds an extra 15 Mt after the effectiveness.
@ResurgentRaven4 жыл бұрын
@@AkameGaKillfan777 And combined with his high crit rate and crest of blayddid, then his damage output becomes so high that pretty much anything is toast. ...And then a vengeful dimitri takes on Nemesis with his 10 elites shield up. Guess it's time for him to... KILL EVERY LAST ONE OF THEM!
@FuriousHaunter4 жыл бұрын
Anyone can use the sword of the creator (sublime or not) it just losses 2 range and gains 10 weight So if you have some one with high strength and/or speed it becomes a ok-ish sword for anyone decent astra use tho
@escuiper44944 жыл бұрын
using astra and wasting 7 uses with a relic weapon would hurt lol
@davidjaye504 жыл бұрын
Giving sword of the creator to anyone else gimps the weapon. You're better off using any other sword on a non Byleth unit.
@bobfan28214 жыл бұрын
You should not use the regular for astra. It only has 7 mt, less dmg than a reg steel sword which also weighs less. Also astra sucks
@Xane8754 жыл бұрын
There's also literally no good reason to ever do that, unless you're doing a solo run on a unit that isn't Byleth. Losing 2 range and the combat art takes away everything that makes the weapon really good, and 10 weight is a pretty big deal. What you're suggesting is just objectively way worse than just using the sword on Byleth. It's a good Astra weapon? Rest only repairs 5 uses, so you'd have to waste an entire month to get it up to full from nothing, and the Sword of the Creator only has 20 uses. Astra costs 9 durability, so the sword could only Astra twice. It's not a good Astra weapon at all, repairing other weapons is much less of a waste. And that isn't even getting in to the fact that Astra isn't a very good combat art. It's the only hero's relic that has worse stats when used with a non-compatible unit. If you want to use Astra, just use a forged steel sword, that's 55 durability and decent might you've got there.
@hyperstargaming61504 жыл бұрын
Zac T it is the shittiest weapon in the game in the hands of ANYONE except Byleth. Yes, that undoubtedly makes it Byleth’s sword only.
@InkWavve4 жыл бұрын
When he got to Thyrsus, I was like "wait that's Lysth... oh right."
@AlphaC0re3 жыл бұрын
raging storm+wyvern=ltc however i was never able to repair it in my playthrough and used raging storm a few times so couldn’t use it later on. sad. anyone know how to get agarthium in cf?
@LuminaPath2 жыл бұрын
I accidentally gave Sylvians lance back to lady rhea and was so upset about it 😂 Made me feel better that you tier listed it at B
@theta-84 жыл бұрын
i feel like Lance of Ruin could go up a bit purely out of it having the next best availability next to SotC. Also it has a good bit of Crit on it too, which is actually a pretty unique trait amongst the Relics.
@mewchimew3 жыл бұрын
Has this been touched on anywhere else? I feel like Luin is just an abbreviated lance of ruin
@fe_three_rosses3 жыл бұрын
i always thought that, too
@empressfrozentoes52854 жыл бұрын
ok but why does blue lions have 42% of the relics, that just seems a bit overkill considering that the black eagles have exactly one
@linebeckthejohoe48763 жыл бұрын
I mean, the Empire gets their Crests from the Saints, who didn't use Relic Weapons, save for Edelgard, who had a Relic made specifically for her.
@blankblank62144 жыл бұрын
It is to bad you can't get the rafili gem I Crimson flower despite the death knight giving it to you in the other paths
@hexmaniacciaran4 жыл бұрын
He should have it equipped, it’s so dumb
@Aa-dc2xu4 жыл бұрын
Am I the only one who feels like the Black Eagles drew the shortest end of the stick in terms of relic weapons, and Blue Lions drew the longest? Kinda wish we had at least one more relic user besides Edelgard (I know Ferdinand and Linheart are both Sacred weapon users, but they're still not as cool as relics).
@zwillscoopchannel96894 жыл бұрын
A a and in a way that’s not a relic since it was made differently
@Aa-dc2xu4 жыл бұрын
@@zwillscoopchannel9689 You mean Aymr? Sorta, I'd still call it a relic, just slightly more artificial.
@vickypostsstuff3 жыл бұрын
Forget Atrocity, Dimitri is a delete button regardless.
@drecknathmagladery91184 жыл бұрын
thyrsus I just stick it on lysithea so she cat hit people farther away with her broken ass attacks and since she naturaly has the crest of Gloucester it is even better not to mention she has the major crest in addition I have learned to use it in combination with the warp spell to get someone half way across the battlefield
@MRHaloman8324 жыл бұрын
I have over 300 ish hours of playtime and for some reason Annettes relic mission has never showed up for me, I honestly don't know why
@cadehastings81524 жыл бұрын
Annette and Gilbert need to have c support for the paralouge to appear
@dobss59654 жыл бұрын
when talking about thyrus, why do you have a picture of lorenz there instead of lysithea? lol
@Starwars-Fanboy4 жыл бұрын
Lmao, its technically his but yeah. Lysithea kinda steals it from him
@conorb.19014 жыл бұрын
@@Starwars-Fanboy I think Thyrsus is better traded around. Lysithea is too frail for the pavise/aegis effect to actually help her
@Starwars-Fanboy4 жыл бұрын
@@conorb.1901 I agree it the aegis helps lorenz more bc he has significantly more bulk, but Lysithea doesnt need since you can attack from a safer distance with it and Lysithea has better combat. You should still be trading it around to get the most use out of it.
@wolftamerwolfcorp74654 жыл бұрын
I’d have probably put rafail gem in A, blutgang in C and Vajra-Mushti (or however it’s spelled) in B Raphail gem: the crit nullification can help and the effectiveness nullification makes it passable on any mounted unit. Blutgang: it’s alright but it’s stats don’t really make it good enough to use over magic attacks Gauntlets: They’re quite heavy and quiet strong but unlike the thunderbrand, they don’t offer something over the majority of gauntlets like it does swords.
@AkameGaKillfan7774 жыл бұрын
The Gauntlets only weigh as much as an Iron Axe
@wolftamerwolfcorp74654 жыл бұрын
AkameGaKillfan777 Still pretty heavy for gauntlets, sure their might makes up for the weight for the most part which is why they’re still in B but in terms of utility thunderbrand can be used for a big enough damage increase to ORKO or because the brave makes you able to do so before the enemy does when compared to most swords, the relic gauntlets only have the added might to take into consideration. I’m definitely not saying that they’re bad but they aren’t offering enough to go into A tier imo.
@AkameGaKillfan7774 жыл бұрын
@@wolftamerwolfcorp7465 On a high strength unit, which all Gauntlet specifed classes are, you can easily get rid of their Wt Penalty. War Monk actually has better Str than a Grappler.
@wolftamerwolfcorp74654 жыл бұрын
AkameGaKillfan777 Yeah, but on a high strength unit you usually won’t need them over any other gauntlet to kill because it’s still 35 strength to nullify the weight. At that point, other gauntlets will usually get the same work done with the relic ones just making it so you might be able to kill before a counter compared to any other one. They’re nice to have and have their uses but I just generally don’t think they offer enough to justify A tier.
@AkameGaKillfan7774 жыл бұрын
@@wolftamerwolfcorp7465 That's my point. Also I don't consider them A rank either. I actively avoid using Gauntlets 99% of the time on Enemy Phase.
@21Shells3 жыл бұрын
Crusher is my favourite heros relic even if ive not got the opportunity to use it much.
@jet_set86484 жыл бұрын
The relics were made for their original crest-bearers imo. Creator Sword literally can only be used by Byleth Amyr's combat art gives Edelgard another action (its also exclusive to her i believe) Areadbhar kills every last one of them Failnaught's combat art fits Claude perfectly (free dodge scheme) Thunderbrand fits Catherine's playstyle really well, as she's a Swordmaster, and with the weapon she will most likely quad things. Crusher is magic. No more to say. Blutgang is ALSO magic. Again, nothing to say, considering Marianne's mainly a magic user. Lance of Ruin and Luin are pretty identical imo, one is lighter and weaker, but more accurate, fitting for a pegasus knight, and the Lance of Ruin hits like a truck, fitting for a grat knight/wyvern lord. Freikugel... Not sure how this really relates to Hilda. Rafail Gem makes a squishy healer like Mercedes a little bulkier, so she won't get deleted by a high-strength unit. Aegis Shield is similar, making Felix, your slightly tankier Swordmaster, a little tankier. Fetters of Dromi. 2 Mov AND Canto. Yuri's a canon trickster, so when he gets Foul Play, he can swap and then Canto to a forest or something to dodge tank. Vajra-Mushti fits the almighty King of Grappling well, as it's a gauntlet weapon which acts as a brave weapon.
@AkameGaKillfan7774 жыл бұрын
Since Thunderbrand is mostly a beefed up Brave Sword, I think it works good on many others, as I almost never use its Combat Art. Vaajra-Mushti is kind of the same since Eviscerate is only a single strike. The Aegis Shield I give to defense tanks like Gilbert so they can utiluze Defiant Defense.
@AkameGaKillfan7774 жыл бұрын
You're forgetting some combat art capabilities. Thunderbrand's for instance deals effective damage against armored units and dragons.
@boywonder11624 жыл бұрын
You forgot Flayn and Seteth’s weapons
@mogbelalmogbel95444 жыл бұрын
These are holy weapons not hero relics
@boywonder11624 жыл бұрын
Oh
@skins4thewin3 жыл бұрын
So hey, can you trade before performing an attack and not lose the action? And can you trade after attacking? Am just wondering if it uses up your action for the turn to trade an item to another character.
@wolftamerwolfcorp74653 жыл бұрын
You can trade before attacking provided the enemy is in the units attack range from the tile they traded on, you can’t have a unit trade after they attack though (so another unit can trade with them but attacking locks out the trade command) same rules apply to the convoy command
@BigMastah794 жыл бұрын
Dimitri doesn’t even need Adreadbar or however you spell it. He’s just overpowered regardless
@Homururu4 жыл бұрын
Lúin's burning quake carried me hard, I'd put it on lower A, but that's just my opinion Other than that, this is great
@briayantheomnipotentone30474 жыл бұрын
Honestly how I see the hero’s relics are connected to the Major Sequence if Arcana AKA the Fool’s journey
@alexgamer15564 жыл бұрын
There's no way crusher is A tier, it's arguably one of the worst relics in the game, also Failnaught has way too many advantages to be just in A tier
@jimmyfitz-etc70314 жыл бұрын
damn theres only one black eagles hero relic?
@torking78134 жыл бұрын
Blue Lions are really unfair with their Relic Weapons...
@utatanepiko70872 жыл бұрын
To say this politely, I don't think you did all that goo representing the relics properly and you gave wrong information about a few of them Aegis Shield and Fretters of Dromi for example do the same thing, with the difference that the Shield gives more resistance and defense while Dromi gives the wearer +1 movement. Besides, Yuri's defenses are so trash that not even Aegis and Pavise can save him, so it's not even that useful unless it's a generic enemy in an intimate or below class And Aymr has a 60% hit chance, not 90% There's other things I can point out, but I think I'm just going to make a my own tier list. I unfortunately don't have a microphone to make a video Edit to add: I just remembered you said you're not taking Crests into consideration considering anyone can use a Relic (just people without a Crest will take damage) However, Crests are super important. Fretters of Dromi would be so much lower on the tier list if you didn't take Crest of Aubin into consideration since you put it so high up on the list because it has Aegis and Pavise (same with Aegis Shield) but Aegis and Pavise are only on Dromi if it's equipped by someone with the Crest of Aubin. So if Dromi was worn by anyone else with a Crest, they would only get the movement boost, not Aegis and Pavise This was a very unga bunga video
@mageius4 жыл бұрын
short answer, Lorenz is NEVER using his relic weapon when Ly can use it without DMG. Basically the best mage gets even better.
@eshan62974 жыл бұрын
You're wasting the Thrysus if you aren't passing it around like a joint to the rest of your mages. Keeping it on one person is dumb
@Tez3654 жыл бұрын
Pass it around like a dutch blunt like Mekkah would say, honestly it's pretty easy to set up trade chains especially if lorenz is on a dark knight because of 4 range and canto
@joelsasmad4 жыл бұрын
There is nothing special about the sword of the creator. The sword of the creator having 1-2 range doesn't matter much when every archer in the game gets 3 range or more. The combat art is more damage and nothing else. I'm sorry but it is absolutely not S tier. Meanwhile you ranked Areadbhar below it despite it being the stronger weapon and having a way stronger combat art. You mentioned that other weapons you have to be more careful with using but all the weapons are 20 use and you shouldn't be overusing any of them including the sword of the creator. The sword of the creator repairs itself by 5 when you rest but resting is a waste of time that can be used to explore and build supports while maxing out everyone's motivation for lessons. By the end of the game you will be swimming in the umbrella steel used to repair most relics anyways.
@AkameGaKillfan7774 жыл бұрын
Also effective against Dragons
@joelsasmad4 жыл бұрын
@@AkameGaKillfan777 Only the combat art is and guess what? ALL THE RELIC COMBAT ARTS ARE EFFECTIVE AGAINST DRAGONS!
@AkameGaKillfan7774 жыл бұрын
@@joelsasmad Actually the the Sublime Creator Sword is S-tier, not the beginning SotC.
@joelsasmad4 жыл бұрын
@@AkameGaKillfan777 the sublime form gets more might but not enough to change any of my points above. If it got 1 more space of range to counter archers, an actually unique combat art(maybe a sword version of swift strikes/fierce iron fist to match up with the animation), or was normally a monster killing weapon like the blessed weapon it would be s-tier but as it stands it shouldn't really be put in the same place as the most powerful combat art in the game that is effective against all enemies for even more damage or the combat art that straight up gives you another turn. I'm not saying that it is below c-tier in fact its strength relative to its weight is pretty good, I'd rate it B-tier but could be convinced it's even A-tier for the high damage of its sword combat art. It just definitely isn't enough to be considered S.
@AkameGaKillfan7774 жыл бұрын
@@joelsasmad It has better Mt, Wt, and I believe crit as well. It doubles Mt, as well as getting even more attack power based on your magic stat when using Sublime Heaven. Most of the time at least on hard it still one-shots, not to mention it being one of the lightest relics in the game means it will have little to no effect on your AS.
@ezraieon4 жыл бұрын
personally... don't agree with much of this.
@pasturelgeorge97564 жыл бұрын
Ok
@juliusseizure65954 жыл бұрын
Heroes relics really shouldn't break. They should just have a cool down time. Botw managed to have the master sword even with the durability mechanic.
@rhettmitchell4 жыл бұрын
3:21 he said it's a delete button
@lordofhostsappreciator30754 жыл бұрын
Uhh yeah
@TazmaniacYT4 жыл бұрын
Wait I had my Catherine using the sword of the creator. It just had 1 range and less hit
@hyperstargaming61504 жыл бұрын
Tazmaniac Sword of the Creator is treated as a broken weapon in the hands of absolutely anyone other than Byleth. Even Edelgard can’t wield it, despite her also bearing a Crest of Flames.
@TazmaniacYT4 жыл бұрын
HyperStar Gaming oh ok thanks
@dhisufiroafrozenseraphimdragon4 жыл бұрын
@@hyperstargaming6150 Edelgard doesn't have the crest stone. Remember?
@conorb.19014 жыл бұрын
@@hyperstargaming6150 SotC isn't treated as a broken weapon, it just loses its 2 range and gains 10 weight when not in Byleth's hands. Same goes for Ruptured Heaven and Sublime Heaven, they lose their extra range
@hyperstargaming61504 жыл бұрын
Conor B. You obviously don’t know how the Sword of the Creator Works... actually, you don’t know how broken weapons work. Broken weapons become heavier, and if they have extra range, then they lose that once broken. Also, their hit rate takes a massive drop, along with a practically 0 crit rate. You can look it up if you don’t believe me, because I’ve tested this myself. Losing range and increasing weight are the most prominent aspect of a broken weapon. My point will stand, most people here will agree with me.
@AiToYumeNoKaze4 жыл бұрын
Kind a wish new game plus let you buy the relics with renown if they were not obtainable in your route or you were missing the character to obtain them if you had earn them in a prior Playthough because ones like Annette’s Can only be obtained in one Playthrough and it kind of ruins it
@wesnohathas19934 жыл бұрын
The pavise/aegis relics depend on dex for them to proc. Good on Felix or Yuri; not so much on the others.
@ResurgentRaven4 жыл бұрын
Which is odd since Felix has significantly lower skill/dex than most of the other swordmasters of his time. I mean, my Felix magic is higher than his dex, that's gotta mean something.
@Toastand_egg4 жыл бұрын
You should rank the scared weapons
@mr.krustykrust4 жыл бұрын
Since Edelgard also has the crest of flames, can’t she use the sword of the creator to its full power as well?
@mewchimew3 жыл бұрын
No crest stone my friend
@rhettmitchell4 жыл бұрын
4:57 GAUTIERRRRRR
@Hello505053 жыл бұрын
So most of the blue lions relics suck but they have the most
@zachiswack80074 жыл бұрын
Ah yes sword master byleth with thunder brand
@zachiswack80074 жыл бұрын
Or Felix
@zachiswack80074 жыл бұрын
After spamming speed buffs
@charleouel90124 жыл бұрын
You didn't ask for opinion :( Oh well any way I don't know those weapon well I only really used Amyr and that about it... (that Galeforce)
@conorb.19014 жыл бұрын
I love Aymr. Got lucky with some days of and got the worm things that dropped Agarthium, and made sure to break the Titanus during the Arhianrhod map. Abused the crap out of it
@charleouel90124 жыл бұрын
@@conorb.1901 No idea what Titanus does sorry never got it.
@conorb.19014 жыл бұрын
@@charleouel9012 it's just a monster type enemy that drops the material to repair Aymr
@charleouel90124 жыл бұрын
@@conorb.1901 Oh I see that nice (tho perso I don't used those rare materiel much.) I use black-sand thing for killer's weapon tho.
@luceena61654 жыл бұрын
Black Eagles have only 1 hero's relic this is so sad ;-;
@mogbelalmogbel95444 жыл бұрын
And it also fake!!!
@dakholignis62014 жыл бұрын
I train my Lysithea with the sword of Catharine without using magic. Is this something cursed?
@mogbelalmogbel95444 жыл бұрын
No it ok becuase she has the same crest so she can use it proporly
@ashen_roses3 жыл бұрын
Idg why commenters love the Lance of Ruin. It always has such worthless hit that I can never use or rely upon it.
@chrislemay38074 жыл бұрын
Why does everyone say Aymr can only be repaired twice? Just fight Giant Crawlers in the Sreng Desert map once for 8 Agarthium (Pre-TimeSkip). You can potentially repair Aymr every chapter in Crimson Flower
@MeatOfJustice4 жыл бұрын
Tier lists usually consider no grinding (or the least amount possible) because it trivializes the game.
@chrislemay38074 жыл бұрын
@@MeatOfJustice Fair point. You're guaranteed only 2 repairs if you don't count extra auxiliary battles
@jokechi86974 жыл бұрын
Wait wha dude i didn't know this alright noted im gonna keep this in mind thanks
@chrislemay38074 жыл бұрын
@@jokechi8697 Lol no problem
@hyperstargaming61504 жыл бұрын
Chris Lemay wait Aymr uses Agarthium instead of Umbral Steel? I haven’t played Crimson Flower yet, I got the game last month. If this is true, this is easily the most repairable “Relic” in the game (it’s not a relic tbh, but whatever) It’s powerful, and it’s now the most absurd weapon thanks to its might and the amount of times it can be repaired because Agarthium, not Umbral Steel.
@Matteo_nr1_evermore_stan5 ай бұрын
Shield so much better than Rafail gem
@kobotami96884 жыл бұрын
Aegis shield can halve damage tho...
@SilentVinyl3 жыл бұрын
neat
@yujirogoggins43894 ай бұрын
Thunderbrand is easy S tier
@ZygonCannar4 жыл бұрын
Forgot Bernie's but otherwise solid
@azhurefiasco93144 жыл бұрын
U mean inexhaustible? That's a saint weapon and afaik you get it from leonie.
@ZygonCannar4 жыл бұрын
@@azhurefiasco9314 Oh weird, I hadnt gotten it so I was going off bad knowledge my B.
@zimzam9004 жыл бұрын
Call me crazy but I think this guy loves Edelgard, she’s always in S
@Nick-zv7si4 жыл бұрын
zimzam900 she is arguably the best unit in the game when you have her
@zimzam9004 жыл бұрын
• Nick • okay I love Edelgard as much as the next guy she’s easily in my top 10, but best unit in the game she is not
@alexgamer15564 жыл бұрын
I don't know about the other times you are talking about but here Amyr is easily S tier, there's no justification even needed.
@ZygonCannar4 жыл бұрын
@@zimzam900 Honestly it's mostly just you and the few people who overvalue Dim's Battalion Vantage + Wrath combo....Edel is the best unit in the game and it's kind of not close. Top 10? Who do you put above her? Lol she's at least top 3 and most people do put her #1. She has the highest STR in the game, easily can become the best class in the game (Wyvern Lord), Has the best combat art in the game. Dim contests the top spot, but only if you are very aware of the game's mechanics where Edelgard is idiot-proof in how good she is. And again, she's the only unit in the game that can take multiple turns without dancing...she's absurd.
@l.n.33724 жыл бұрын
@@ZygonCannar Edelgard doesn't have the highest strength growth in the game, that's Dimitri. It's only Aymr that makes people rank Edelgard highly. But a weapon alone doesn't make one the best unit in the game. Perhaps you're not aware of Dimitri's battalion wrath/vantage combo but he's essentially the enemy phase unit and he doesn't need the weapon to make him broken. Edelgard has the player phase weapon skill but I guarantee you if she didn't have that combat art, nobody would claim she's the best.