WTF was the Rise of the Guardians book series?! part 1

[@aurawry]

I didn't even realize the ROTG movie was underrated, everyone that saw it seemed to like it when it came out.

[@Rognik]

Trouble is, not that many people didn't see it. Might be one of those cult classics that gained popularity only after it left theatres.

[@aurawry]

@Medium Grey Girl i saw it in theatres for my birthday with a couple friends and we all loved it. I really don't know anyone who disliked the movie when it came out.

[@awts..7954]

Lmao instead, i was one of those people who bought the pirated dvd when it was released so i watched it every holiday. (But now both klaus and rotg are my christmas favorites)

[@devilovesdevil]

I adored it

[@nyx7948]

Yeah it is pretty underrated

[@Vivigreeny25]

I hate it when something with so much potential is wasted because it has to be "kid friendly".

[@mumunist2580]

Leafgreen 25 yeah it’s really sad

[@Parker_Lot]

Eight year old me would have killed for a battle on a satellite :(

[@arlekino0792]

How that even possible? Kid's anime kick ass! (Maybe it works only with anime...)

[@PowerSpirit50]

Kids don't even like overly kid friendly things.

[@bluubandette8871]

Meanwhile the Dab and WAP is child recommended...

[@beanman395]

I can see one of the guardians losing a tooth during a fight and toothiana just stops everything, swoops in, takes the tooth, throw money at whoever lost and just continue the fight like nothing happened.

[@rougestarlight4308]

Lmao

[@cosmicunivxrse6915]

PFFT-

[@MaeArt725]

All I imagine is her just chucking a coin at one of them while pocketing the tooth and just keeps kicking ass.

[@trisaratops8785]

Love this, art, beautiful.

[@Hanmacx]

I read in Ankh Morpork, the Sandman uses a smaller sack because he doesn't remove the sand, he just knocks you out with it

[@reasyrandom]

Honestly, the fandom seems like a mixed bag of genuinely wholesome stories and some of the worst fandom stuff I've ever seen. The ROTG fandom is proof that you don't have to be big to be crazy. Just reading the comments on this video alone made me think "This is cute" and "I need bleach..." simultaneously.

[@shakirashipslied9721]

I really don't want to think about -the ships-, please.. not again.

[@Vivigreeny25]

@@shakirashipslied9721 *SHHHH, THEY DONT EXIST IF YOU DONT TALK ABOUT THEM*

[@kos2919]

@@shakirashipslied9721 don't forget the Jack and Elsa ship

[@AzazelsChamber]

@@kos2919 NO PLEASE STOP

[@eitakou]

@@shakirashipslied9721 wait what

[@mslightbulb]

What did we learn children? “Everything magic is always secretly an alien from Space or another dimension”.

[@theflickchick9850]

Did you mean: *Doctor Who*

[@EduardoTorelly]

so dragon ball

[@PK-Radio]

It happens all the time

[@DominikaHare]

@@PK-Radio yeah, probably because of the very nebulous lines that divide speculative fiction . (Fantasy, horror, sci fi, alternative history etc.)

[@FacelessCrowd]

My favorite trope

[@Chenso2099]

“For the first four books, he was an alien from space named Nightlight.” Ok, I’m in!

[@Rognik]

Was it Nightlight, or Knightlight?

[@WinterCrystal1009]

@@Rognik It's Nightlight xD Honestly tho, Jack be a secret alien

[@gc6096]

cool

[@helenaradosavljevic4577]

Honestly the movie is great, I adore it and I see nothing wrong with its story or why they simplified it. They had to. But the books are so much more interesting storywise and, well, better written xD The maker of this video doesn't seem to like them and that's fine, but I just had to pitch in and say that all the points she dismissed as annoying were amusingly what made me like the books more. So, different people I guess! My rec is to give them a try if you want to, it's easy to drop them if they don't hold your attention.

[@WinterCrystal1009]

@@helenaradosavljevic4577 Actually, in the Part 2 video, she talks briefly about how she loved the books despite all its flaws. Honestly, I love the books with all my heart. However, there are some flaws that do need to be addressed. In the end, the books shouldn't be judged based on the flaws, but rather, the content. And that content is so fast paced and spectacular that it revived my childlike awe in life that I felt like I started to lose with all the shit I struggled through. RotG and GoC are those stories that can save lives imo.

[@zachanikwano]

Rise of the Guardian is an underrated gem and I wish it was more popular.

[@adelastella.5676]

A lot of DreamWorks movies deserve more appreciation in general.

[@mirtki8749]

Thb I didn't even know it was underrated. Everyone I knew who saw it loved it

[@Jedededededede]

@@mirtki8749 yeah, i don't feel like it's underrated, it's just that no one saw it on theaters.

[@twiceofonce9691]

I'm always watching as show.

[@user-uw9io4hl5g]

It's fine as it is. I rather not have toxic people ruining the famdom

[@inksplat7330]

"Rolly Polly olli, meat the Robinsons, epic, and robots." Oh so the mane single handedly created my childhood

[@meechiejamerson]

Mood

[@user-uw9io4hl5g]

meet* man*

[@crescent_foxx1014]

Same here.

[@Rubinkys]

same here bro, all of these were childhood favourites

[@rubbegameing5370]

@@user-uw9io4hl5g Well they are made of meat

[@aria5614]

We can give Dreamworks credit though. They did great with such a simple plot.

[@frogfellow8773]

DreamWorks has always been great with embracing cliches, and making simple plots while still making great movies. Just look at Kung fu Panda. Under another studio it would've come across as annoying, unoriginal, and overall childish. But under DreamWorks, well, just look at the reviews.

[@dancingcarapace]

I know right? I love this movie! It was my childhood. I was 11/12 when it came out, and I suffered nightmares regularly. The area I grew up in... wasn't the nicest. When this movie was released on DVD, I bought it and began drawing different pictures of the Guardians. I put them up around my bed, and it was like I put up wards, because the pictures made me feel like I was actually protected. Childish, I know, but it worked

[@leafyeevee5939]

@@dancingcarapace Aw, that's actually really sweet

[@ZephyrLucki]

Definitely

[@sleepytime9860]

@@dancingcarapace I ended up watching ROTG when I was younger, didn't understand it until now in high school. But one thing that will now haunt me. Every single scene where Jack hears what was his little sister calling his name. Even years of forgetting the movie later, I can now tell that it made an good impact in my memory cause now my memories of my childhood are still hitting me when I didn't expect it.

[@vamp11x]

the guardians' backgrounds lowkey sound like the backstory of some ancient pantheon's deities

[@Hanmacx]

That's how you get gods

[@blackgobbogaming4236]

Do you want a pantheon of gods because that's how you get a pantheon of gods.

[@lunyxappocalypse7071]

Well, they ARE based on belief... Its semi related.

[@Bee-cw9ho]

When "Wreck it Ralph" was just coming out in my local cinema, me and my friend were going to buy the tickets to watch it, we came and I said "two tickets to Wreck it Ralph", we got the tickets and were waiting when we could be able to start taking our seats, but when we showed our tickets to the guy before the entrance to the movie, he said that these are tickets to "Rise of the guardians", me and my friend were confused and went back to ask if we can change the tickets because I CLEARLY said "Wreck it Ralph" and I have no idea how that lady could have confused that name with a different movie that I honestly never heard of at that time. We couldn't do anything so we just went to see the guardians and honestly, I am thankful that the lady gave us the wrong tickets because I loved the movie and I loved it even more after seeing Ralph

[@YumegakaMurakumo]

Yes. I'm so glad that I watched this on the big screen and not Wreck-it-Ralph. WIR was okay it definitely didn't deserve the hype it got, but I could watch RotG a million times. 💜

[@haso323]

you we're clearly meant to see it!

[@ChangedMyNameFinally69]

Nah man WIR1 is GOATed

[@ChangedMyNameFinally69]

​@@YumegakaMurakumo Cap

[@fatguywhobreathesfire6488]

Movie Tooth having a small crush on Jack makes sense. She’s the guardian of happy memories and Jack’s all about making happy memories

[@chancehanlin2747]

13:08 I totally agree with you on that, It'd be cool if they'd give Jack Frost & Nightlight the Ozpin-Oscar Pine/Rose Quartz-Steven Universe/Ventus-Sora treatment & have Nightlight become a part of Jack...not just Jack.

[@kalebramirez7327]

Ozpin/Oscar? Fellow Rwby fan? Ventus/Sora? Wooo

[@armon1a852]

@@kalebramirez7327 Ventus-Sora is from the game series called kingdom hearts

[@popculturefanxxi4391]

I freaking Agree

[@chancehanlin2747]

​@@kalebramirez7327 Yeah lol, former

[@Courier-Six]

Funny thing about this movie. I didn't hear about it until my senior year of High School was close to over. I was in my final french class when a substitute brought this in, put the french translation dub on, and played it. I fell in love with it right then and there just for the animation. It wasn't until a few months later I saw it again and was amazed at who was actually in the films english version

[@moseyonover733]

My first introduction to the movie was seeing the first teaser trailer where Bunny is lurking in an alley and first confronts Jack and thinking, 'Aw crap, the Easter Bunny's evil'.

[@PowerSpirit50]

@@moseyonover733 That's genuinely hilarious.

[@t.r2603]

The book series sounds like a early 1900's book with the fantastical space travel.

[@lunyxappocalypse7071]

Well, hopefully fan-fiction can fill that void.

[@YumegakaMurakumo]

A la "The Little Prince" comes to mind. Also The Inventions of Hugo Cabret.

[@KirbyProductions]

I love Rise of the Guardians, actually the movie almost felt like Kingdom Hearts while Jack was like Roxas tbh

[@rougestarlight4308]

That's a better crossover than Rise of the Brave Tangled Frozen Dragons

[@CaptainCJ97]

@@rougestarlight4308 what

[@warlocket5326]

@@CaptainCJ97 I know right? It was a fandom crossover between Tangled, HTTYD, ROTG and Frozen that inspired a lot of fanfiction

[@ehmzed]

FUN FACT: In Italy the title of the movie was "The 5 Legends", which made things kinda awkward because it took for granted that Santa Claus was not real. Sandman and Jack Frost aren't even a thing in Italy and nobody's ever heard of them, whereas the Easter Bunny might be known but not a big thing. The Tooth Fairy is also awkward because depending on the household we either have a tooth fairy or a tooth mouse. I can't imagine how unrelatable this movie must've been in countries around the world, where none of these legends might even exist. That was probably one reason it didn't perform well at the box office. Either way I remember being pleasently surprised when I watched the movie as a child. I expected it to be crap.

[@lottie7398]

Wasn't there a scene in the movie where there was a tooth mouse? And they made a joke about it being one of the European units?

[@corncrackerkid5092]

@@lottie7398 there was! He cursed out Baby Tooth for beating him up and Toothiana even spoke French to him

[@100lovenana]

I also think that's the real reason the movie did so poorly at the box office. They just took for granted that these characters would be recognized around the entire world.

[@camwoods6969]

I liked the reference to the tooth mouse in the movie, for some reason i did not question who sandman was and it was implied in the movie Jack Frost was not well known either. I remember liking the movie, similarly i was not expecting much but it became one of my favourite movies then

[@kittykittybangbang9367]

@@lottie7398 which is funny because tooth mice also exist in Mexico

[@blakeverdon4492]

"Why do you name your children after yourself? Don't do that." Speaking from experience, the "Jr" at the end of my name hasn't exactly helped me much

[@lunyxappocalypse7071]

Yeah, i mean; as a middle name sure, but a first name?

[@michaelbrent1536]

Without rise of the guardians we wouldn’t have the Disney non-Disney crossover fanfiction known as Rise of the Brave Tangled Dragon with so Many CGI Teenager like Jack Frost, Rapunzel, Merida,Hiccup,Mavis,Anna And Elsa !

[@stahppls2293]

I still get notifications about the ROTBTD Harry Potter fic i never finished

[@JinxSanity]

Elsa isn't a teenager, she was already into her 20's.

[@andresamaya6187]

Ahh yeah, I remember that fandom, the premise was interesting, although there was this minority that disliked any new character that weren't Merida, Jack Frost, Hiccup and Rapunzel because some reasons like eye colour and some specific interpretation. I always liked to ironically pick on them telling "if you put Rapunzel there then anyone has the right to put Anna and Elsa because they live in the same world and the same time"

[@codyj.braunva5406]

@@andresamaya6187 it’s still around at least

[@JinxSanity]

@@codyj.braunva5406 Yeah we saw you post it multiple times on Reddit, Healthy-Ratio, it was just you.

[@Staxlotl]

This movie was surprisingly good. I really liked the designs and the animation was pretty solid for it's time.

[@Xplozhun85]

I just rewatched it last night. The animation is 100% still top tier. If it was released today it would still look ridiculously impressive.

[@bruh_4191]

Am I the only one who prefers the insanity and unnecessary details in the books? If this was the movie it would be my favorite!

[@rexberkova7328]

Nope, fell in love with it too. Its such a lovely clutter of cool concepts! Reminds me of Animorphs but with more fairytales aspects.

[@spaghetto9836]

It's a universe I could fall in love with. The lore is charming! Just the film enchanted me enough to start to imagine all our childhood myths like that.

[@monochromedream-eatingbaku]

I definitely have to read the book series, it sounds insane and I'm always up for stories that sound like they were written by someone on crack. Like it sounds like the weirdest longest acid trip and I'm here for it.

[@renatal.129]

honestly I was so bothered by her reactions? it's already established that it's a different universe and the books were probably marketed to a different demographic. Let me enjoy a overcomplicated book series!

[@j-j8984]

To each their own, however for me I am a simple minded person, if to many things get thrown at me i just (＠_＠;)

[@alexkennedy6112]

It honestly sounds like they've cramped 10 books into a 5 part series the way you're describing it....idk, I didn't read the books. Can't wait to see part 2!

[@badboyluvr]

I have read the books & tbh, yeah it feels like it was supposed to be a 10 book series crammed into 5 books. I was (& still am) so confused by the entire 5th book.

[@ilovecats3795]

It’s just me or do book Jack Frost sounds like a Mary Sue.

[@dorothycrystal2058]

Isabella Mathew ONE:I agree with you TWO: i actually Gary sue I think?

[@saulinhosss]

@@dorothycrystal2058 gary stue

[@dekuisagreatmaincharacter]

This is debatable, but one thing that's for sure is the fact that Katherine (Mother Goose) is DEFINITELY a Mary Sue! I know she's supposed to be an homage to Joyce's daughter, but still, this is no excuse. She shows SO MUCH of the traits of a Mary Sue I even made a list (obs: this coment is VERY long, sorry): *1) All of the other characters just love her:* Whatever new character enters the story, he/she immediately FALLS IN LOVE with Katherine. In some cases, this new character hates everyone else, except her. *2) She's always right:* Whatever she says something, the other characters react like she just discovered how to end worlds' hunger, and if someone disagrees with her, their just stupid. And in the rare cases when almost everyone else think she's wrong, it's just a matter of time until they're proven that her idea was the best all along. In the first book, there's a part where Ombric (Father Time) and North are planning to go on a dangerous quest to find the first relic, and they understandably don't let her go, since she's too young. She asks to go with them, but they still refuse, and then the book speaks of them like they were heartless monsters. By the end, she not only discovers Pitch's plan, she travels from Siberia to fucking Himalaya and saves everyone from Pitch. *3) She's way better than she should be:* For a start, she was always considered a Guardian, even though she didn't had any unique powers or fighting skills whatsoever until the last book (which takes place at least centuries after the others). For most of the series, she's just a regular girl. I think she was supposed to show childhood, the very thing the Guardians protect, but Jack was able to do this just fine in the movie without needing to be a Gary Stu. But with Katherine, she's always the one who saves the day, the wisest, and the one who knows everything. In the end of the third book, after she ends a battle in the most anticlimactic way possible (I mean, she might as well have just said "Martha" and the fight would be over with the same impact), and Emily Jane (Mother Nature) takes she and Pitch with her, everyone starts mopping, saying how they were all wrong and Katherine was te only one who saw how it should be done (for a bit of contest if you didn't read the book, everyone else was like "We gotta kill Pitch!" while she was like "Nooo, don't kill this dude who wants to spread mass terror and was just about to turn me into one of his minions, pleeeeease!"). There's even a moment when the book STRAIGHT UP SAYS SHE IS WISER THAN NORTH AND A I-DON'T-KNOW-HOW-MANY-CENTURIES OLD WIZARD, FOR FUCK SAKE!

[@animegraveyard776]

@@saulinhosss FINALLY, someone else said the correct term in a while!

[@ZephyrLucki]

I mean technically he’s really reckless so that’s one thing

[@SpiderandMosquito]

Something you need to understand about William Joyce, even though he's usually involved on the production of his works' adaptations he usually has a somewhat laissez-faire influence on the film's ultimate content. I'm going off of my reading of tv tropes post from recollection, might be misquoting please look into it yourself; basically Joyce has a great history of experience in both film and print and so not only understands the fundamental differences between two's capacities for storytelling but appreciates it. As such, instead of fighting it, he embraces it and enables the studios to do almost anything they want with the content of the source material. Hell I wouldn't be surprised if he came up with some of the most dramatic changes himself. Rise of the Guardians, while technically being billed as a sequel to the book, follows this same adaptation philosophy and so contradicts the source material and is best viewed as a separate canon altogether

[@lgww1940]

Not gonna lie, seeing that scene from robots was kinda hot

[@nosleep9816]

👀👀👀

[@nahicorua]

I'm not sure if I should love or hate this comment lmao

[@bleepblock2177]

@@nahicorua same and R.I.P robin williams he was the best

[@myhornislongerthanyourrela5105]

Yeah

[@dragoniraflameblade]

I LOVE the needlessly elaborate magical alien origins. Your avatar is really awesome! Great expressions and posing! Makes me want to use one for my videos (when I do them finally).

[@SakuraStallion]

"Oh yeah I had a crush on movie Jack when I was a kid!" *sees movie Jack* "I still have a crush on movie Jack..." Anyways I love the movie alot and never knew there was a book series!!! It seems dark as HELL

[@aria5614]

World War 1+ very modern BLUE hoodie. Yeah that makes sense.

[@galaxyunknown2599]

And also brown coat looks like uniform ww1 battlefield 1 i know

[@KirbyProductions]

Wait book pitch’s minions look like Heartless WHY ARE THERE SO MANY KINGDOM HEARTS SIMILARITIES

[@Salthat]

Haha Disney go reuse character designs-

[@Salthat]

Ok this comment is the *P H A T T E S T* mood, like, I’m watching more of this and seeing more and more AND M O R E similarities; Nomura is not a person, he’s a type of storytelling that maybe gets plagiarized... 👀

[@amiyakenworthey7454]

Because you are finding ways to think of it as Kingdom Hearts.

[@heavenseyes1211]

Rayjay Ice Cream ROTG isn’t even Disney, it’s Dreamworks

[@rougestarlight4308]

MMMMH 👀👀

[@Sashimi_luv]

Like Joyce has a fun artstyle but....he really should take a class on storytelling bc this was painful. Its not that his ideas arent good?? They are just orchestrated so poorly and not thought out at all

[@strawberrydoll7042]

@X Dr i genuinely enjoyed the books for what they were and the ideas it had up until the last novel :").

[@notificationgangmember9339]

"The nighmare king would even hunt down children." I was literally like: Uh, ex-CUSE ME???

[@user-uw9io4hl5g]

It kinda makes sense though because he's suppose to be the bogeyman

[@NathanM72641]

@@user-uw9io4hl5g yea

[@Gungelion]

*Looks at several piles of paperwork and raises hand* excuse me, is any of this going to be on the test?

[@hezureviews]

yes. all of it

[@Gungelion]

@@hezureviews ...I knew I should've taken advanced quantum mechanics instead. But noooo I wanted a challenge!

[@songweretson]

I LOVED the movie. The books were fun... but less so my thing. I went headlong into the Rise of the Guardians/How To Train Your Dragon/Tangled/Brave crossover fandom, and I wrote LOTS and LOTS of Jack and Rapunzel fanfic. I also ADORED Nightlight and Katherine as a couple. So Nightlight turning into Jack throw off everything. I saw it coming as soon as I finished the Toothiana book, but didn't want to believe it. I had made them brothers in a few of my fanfics... I was not happy.

[@lanimosity]

GOSH YES rotbtd propelled me into animation + writing and i heavily enjoyed rotg's lore but nightlight = jack just,,, throws everything off nightlight and jack shouldve been different entities entirely :/

[@CyanideOwl]

I can imagine those thirsty 12yo fanfics. You have no right to be angry, you started writing your shitty stories without getting all the information first. Is all on you.

[@sanderssides7390]

@@CyanideOwl fanfics =/= shitty fanfics =/= insulting someone fanfics =/= being mean fanfics =/= dirty

[@stahppls2293]

Oh shit ROTBD caught up with me. The notifications are still consistent from A Hogwarts Story asking for updates

[@rougestarlight4308]

@@CyanideOwl ow, the edge

[@zarviusjones8708]

I didn't know they made a book about this, Female Maximilian Dood. I wish it make more sequels soon.

[@SharpDesign]

I had heard the author wants movie sequels too.

[@Andrews13channel]

zarvius jones Maximillian Girl

[@foreverdead1248]

You have it backwards. They made a movie about the books. Books came first.

[@bunnypolaris9800]

William Joyce has been trying to get a sequel/ netflix tv series for a while now but he can't disclose anything about his progress. Fingers crossed though.

[@meechiejamerson]

@@bunnypolaris9800 Oh thank the moon. This was my obsession when I finally saw it on DVD.

[@ellajazz4861]

Honestly knowing how much of a chaotic ‘mess’ the books were really make me appreciate the movie even more , flaws and all

[@yeet_hades]

are the books good or its better if i dont read them ???

[@user-uw9io4hl5g]

@@yeet_hades They are good but they are not perfect. The books gives more understanding to the movies and are interesting but i recommend just getting them from a library if they have them

[@ChibiCherub]

@@yeet_hades honestly i just finished the book she references (jacks) and I wish the movie was more like the books

[@JinxSanity]

I can relate with your frustrations on the origins so much. Going by interviews and Joyce himself stating how he thought it would be great if "Elsa and Jack Frost ended up together" in a Instagram feed, Jack now being Shazam and being any age he wants , ignoring the whole Guardian of Childhood purpose and age, it was probably Joyce attempting to cash in on the whole Jelsa trend and giving it more possibility by Jack now being Legal Age or any age to be romantically involved with any ship girl. At least that's my theory, cause otherwise it makes no sense for Joyce to suddenly retcon Jack's and Nightlight's into one being and ignore the rules unless he was trying to shove in the Movie look.

[@TANGL3_BURR]

Wait... Joyce ships Jelsa?! What about Rainbow Snowcone?

[@candyrhodes7244]

I just realized jack Frost has a like wooden Sly Cooper cane

[@stealyourheartz]

ah yes a human of culture as well

[@leek.3671]

Ah yes, a true creature of the internet

[@candyrhodes7244]

@@stealyourheartz why yes sly Cooper is awesome

[@candyrhodes7244]

@@leek.3671 ya racoons are great

[@WhiteFireTheDragon]

This why I reread my own stories multiple times, to avoid these very issues.

[@colleennewholy9026]

Plus keep a whole trees worth of notes

[@nationalinstituteofcheese3012]

Looking at Pitch and Sandy’s design show how different they are. - Sandy: Bright, happy, and short - Pitch: Dark, gloomy, and tall Sandy is short like a child showing he is like them and wants to protect them Pitch is tall showing he wants to control and overpower them like an authority figure

[@lunamiko9536]

Interesting thing: there's no Santa in Russia, we have Grandpa Frost (Дед Мороз (Ded Moroz)), who does pretty much the same thing with bringing gifts to good children. He also has a granddaughter Snegurochka (Снегурочка, from "Снег (Sneg)", which means "snow") who helps him

[@bombasticsideeye123]

I deadass had a fat crush on him in 3rd grade. I would have a big dilemma whether to believe in him or not. Because if i dont, i cant see him, but if i do, what if he's not real? That was going through my mind in 3rd grade. And i got really sad because he's not real. Like, gurl-

[@houselemuellan8756]

No one: This book: *alien edgelords*

[@thatoneguyyouknow9078]

I really like the artwork of the Guardian Books, it reminds me of Little Nemo. There’s some sort of charm with that “fantastical, fairytalish” clothes that feels otherworldly but familiar. It’s hard to explain.

[@vernyulkisasszony4708]

It looks magical. I will definetely look into them someday.

[@og-goji6613]

I just learned that the man that made *INTO THE SPIDER VERSE!* made Rise Of The Guardians.

[@DrawpinionDump]

Wow, this story is such a trip! I had a vague awareness of the books, but I had no idea they were this bonkers! This illustration style is beautiful, though...

[@arthurstable223]

These books read almost like mythology where nothing quite makes sense but somehow stick together anyway. These books sound really good but that’s probably because my favorite author is Neil Gaiman lol

[@corncrackerkid5092]

Exactly, if people think Guardians is hard to follow then they never read Neverwhere (or watched it for that matter) or the Graveyard Book

[@BeedleTheImmortal]

@@corncrackerkid5092 or Hexwood, like these books are all over complected but good

[@2silver144]

Agree with u

[@skelepuns8781]

I'm really not a movie person but ROTG was my absolute favorite movie for years after I saw it when I was 12. Me and my friends obsessed over this movie for like a full year. It was the first fandom I entered, and it introduced me to fanfiction.

[@365saturdays]

I’m always fascinated when the adaptation veers so far away from the source material but still manages to be great in its own way. Like how the wicked musical is nothing like the book it’s based on.

[@emperorbunnybun7513]

Im a simple individual, I see hazelnut post andI click.

[@hezureviews]

HAZELNUT?????? asljfdlkgfjldkgjdfl

[@emperorbunnybun7513]

Eeeeeeh. Enough letters in your name to make it a thing hahaha.

[@maknchill7980]

I'm gonna call her hazelnut from now on.

[@therealmrmago9077]

@@hezureviews you like jazz ?

[@Visceralx1]

@@hezureviews hazelnut is your new name

[@metalandmayhem0660]

She called the Nightmare King a twink and I almost choked on my popcorn. Effin HILARIOUS. Subbed.

[@jordangarcia8939]

Ok so I was 10 when rise of the guardians came out and let me tell you I was OBSESSED WITH THE BOOKS AND MOVIE. Yeah looking back the books now they were a bit extra and not really necessary but to a kid or at least me it was so interesting to find a book with really deep lore that treated its audience like it wasn't stupid. The advertising for the book was nearly non existent but the few kids from my school who actually read it felt like we discovered some kind of secrets about these characters that no one else knew about! Like imagine how cool it was for a kid to imagine santa as a pirate! It's was really fun and if you haven't checked out the books please do! They're a fun read and I don't think a series could ever recreate that feeling of reading them for the first time especially if you view it from the eyes of a kid!

[@corncrackerkid5092]

I love books like that, I was the kid who grew up reading Guardians Of Ga’Hoole (which has pretty extensive world building and is pretty mature with brain washing and WW2 themes for a book about warrior owls) so this sounds right up my alley!

[@js66613]

Listening to this, asides from the settings and concept designs, the movie sounds a whole lot better... especially when it comes to Jack's book. Pitch and Sandman may even have a rivalrly. Er... Yuno and Asta from Black Clover anyone? Except Sandman isn't loud enough to be Asta... Also, movie Toothiana is just the sweetest. I can even get behind her warrior princess transformation close to the end of the movie, but that punch in Pitch's face at the end was a very poor choice for the writers to make because I feel like she should have been the bigger person and not punched a guy at their weakest. If they wanted her to sound badass they should had her dare punch him at his strongest. And I'd also like to say... I like the idea of Toothiana having darker skin... it just works better with the architecture of her building which is remniscent of India and Arabia and her colourful form. Yeah... the man in the moon's kind of a d***, to be honest, especially in the movie. I mean, he neglects a deceased teenager with no idea who he is or what he is or what he's doing for three hundred years... And yep... mother nature could have been done so much better. Being forgotten by a father figure is NOT an even vaguely understandable reason for why you would murder a ship of people.4 RIP, Twiner.

[@darkknightz3r0]

I saw this movie with my daughter and we loved it and was so excited. The movie actually got her to start drawing and expressing herself more.

[@calamaria9221]

So many characters are actually aliens in the book series lol

[@lularuu6168]

god the movie is so underrated. the only reason people like jack is because they ship him with elsa for some reason (terrible ship do not @ me) btw your personality is so peppy and cute! this was so fun to watch

[@rebeccablue4818]

I too hate shipping Jack with Elsa, the only good thing about it was that it introduced me to this awesome movie.

[@Iisho]

That paring always confused me. I've never been much of a shipper or was one to judge people's ships but that was one I just didn't get. Shipping people from two very different universes is also just confusing to me in general, though.

[@lularuu6168]

@@Iisho i am a hopeless romantic, so i love shipping and love romance, but jelsa is a really bad ship to me. the only reason people ship it is "hehe ice powers me creative"

[@JinxSanity]

Sadly that is still true in parts of the fandom as they ignored the ROTG movie but only got in because of the Jelsa fanarts, cosplays and fanfics.. even more infuriating as they still think Jack's future is to get together with Elsa, ignoring the books.

[@lularuu6168]

@@JinxSanity oh my god those people make me so irrationally mad

[@eaglehood224]

Gotta say, the movie was the first piece of animated media that made my jaw drop. Boy I miss the old day...

[@KittyBGaming]

I never knew it was a flop. I absolutely loved it while the other movies were ok. This movie captured the magic perfectly for me 😁 Edit: I was 11 back then and I loved pitch and the silly darkness

[@bassmantjox1299]

Not Really It made back it budget of 306 million Edit: Miss type it 😂

[@moseyonover733]

Honestly, Nightlight and Jack should have been entirely different characters. The fact that Jack used to be a 100% normal human kid with a happy, loving family is what made his sacrifice and resulting isolation (and later the end of that isolation through the kids and the Guardians) so impactful. It's all muddied when you try to add another layer of backstory wherein he's actually always been SUPER COOL AND SPECIAL YOU GUYS!!! There was something very tender about Jack just being a sweet boy who saved his sister and was both gifted and burdened with immortality as a result.

[@jaythestar4352]

Bruh, my school had a field trip to the theatre and we were watching ROTG. We all loved it, and my 12 year old friends and I had a full conversation about how hot Jack is.

[@blueriverbane69]

between North, Pitch, and Bunnymund we were served 3 daddies in 1 movie

[@nosleep9816]

Yes 👌👌

[@trollex1782]

*MMMMMM 😳*

[@crowthewicked8344]

Please don't lewd the bunny

[@etboss2002]

@@crowthewicked8344 too late

[@arielnatalene3006]

@@crowthewicked8344 There are a bunch of those "arts"

[@lunicode4983]

The whole “William with twenty sons namer William” May be a callback to old fairytales/fables where nonsensical shit like that tends to pop up, it seems like a lot of nonsensical old fairytale elements were attempted to be packed in but it didn’t balance well with the main plot

[@ikiu474]

I actually loved Rise of The Guardians. Jack Forst was my crush back then 😌

[@ehhabbs]

WAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[@VidralliaArchives]

I'm just your average fangirl who already knows all this information but watches the video anyways because it gives me warm fuzzies to hear other people talking about my fandom. Don't mind me.

[@DeezNuts-bg2qp]

Yea, seems like there's some stuff that should've been put in but sadly wasn't for one reason or another. Like pitch black being a massive three-eyed dream sand monster or Bros with Jack. A lot of stuff that was better off streamlined; like Jack being the needless reincarnation of a knight that guarded the moon king when he was a baby. And some stuff that boils down to personal taste, like the entirety of the Easter Bunny's character.

[@mari-m21]

I'm just gonna say it: the movie was better. I'm just gonna act like the books don't exist

[@jettash0720]

There would be no movie without the books, just saying

[@bimbiman8495]

As for me, I think the movie is not necessarily better than the book, because the books are the prequel. They explain the background for each characters and they were fun to read. The four books are good, it's only Jack's book that I have problem with. Like the video already explained, it was unnecessarily complicated and ridiculous. Nightlight should have been seperate entity from Jack.

[@dekuisagreatmaincharacter]

@@bimbiman8495 AND YOU MISSED THE PART OF THE VIDEO THAT CLEARLY SAYS THAT THE BOOKS AND THE MOVIE AREN'T CONNECTED??

[@chrono-glitchwaterlily8776]

@@dekuisagreatmaincharacter I'm sad now. I haven't finished the story yet

[@user-uw9io4hl5g]

@@bimbiman8495 Well said

[@troublesomezorua]

I actually never knew there was a book series, also hadn't seen the movie before this and finally got around to watching it entirely for the video, though glad I did. I haven't read the books yet obviously but am definitely interested, especially as the Fearlings seem tailor made for me. Though I am deeply upset that neither the book nor movie had The Warren under Easter Island. You had one job!

[@Vash2123]

I really enjoyed this movie. Wish their was a sequel. Also still ship Jack and the Tooth Fairy. 😊

[@js66613]

A series would work better though, since it's a big world and one movie can't cover it, but a series can split it all up into manageable bits and archs... And I don't really ship Tooth and Jack, but it's not a bad ship. Not as annoying as the Black Ice ship people have thought up, so it's okay. Had a minor bit in time when I shipped Pitch and Tooth seeing as he didn't outright kill or maim her fairies post kidnapping them, so I thought maybe he had an unexpected soft spot for her, but then I realised that given that Tooth punched his tooth out, I no longer think there's a chance in hell now that I full acknowledge that. Like I thought maybe Tooth and Jack could try and smooth things out between the Guardians and Pitch and encourage both sides to cooperate against a greater and more vicious enemy.

[@skootergirl22]

Elsa and jack were shipped because of them both having ice powers kind of a forbidden love you know Disney and DreamWorks

[@esperanzamoore6655]

Yeah Jack and Tooth are one of my favorite ships of all time! I love them together! They had a cute hug at the end of the movie too! I’m still in love with this movie and there needs to be a sequel or something like that!

[@nosleep9816]

I never liked the fairy at all lol but i respect your ship

[@Ella-px1xw]

Jack and tooth were otp. They both had a soft spot for each other

[@emotrashcan1019]

I saw ROTG in theaters when it came out, I didn't really think anything of it at the time because I was seven. Now I rewatched it at fifteen, and MAN! ITS SUCH A BEAUTIFUL MOVIE!!!! full of little details that I would of looked over Twice! Not to mention the animation is beautiful as well! That movie inspires me to do CG stuff in the future as well.

[@amycollins5984]

Love the film. Wish it was more popular (heard they think of a tv show) it know the movie was different to the book but it normal and Dreamworks had adopted books to film like How to train your dragon, the films are 100% different of the books but it works

[@Kishinato]

oh my god I already lost it at Jack being an alien im crying and laughing at the same time

[@OhNoBohNo]

Me, watching ‘Klaus’: Didn’t... didn’t we have a gritty, DILF Santa in some other film...? Me, watching this video: Ah, right, *yes, we did*

[@MHF013]

So basically... Movie Guardians is Game Sonic while Book Guardians is Archie Sonic?

[@Alex04blue868]

Basically

[@lancelotrichmond]

Well we like the movie better, can't say that about the sonic games

[@LynnGryphon]

I was reading these then passing the books to my niece to read so we could talk about them. We got up to book 4 but then I moved and we never finished the series.

[@whalewhalewhale6413]

I remember having the biggest, fattest crush on Jack Frost

[@honeybeeami2654]

Guardians of Ga’Hoole and Rise of the Guardians were probably some of my favorite movies growing up. I rewatching Rise of the Guardians and I still love it.

[@honkfiend7981]

Literally never heard of you until this video, but I'm definitely gonna be coming back for more, if for no other reason, than the subtle reverb on your voiceover, it just makes my brain tingle

[@maskedpanda8502]

While I wouldn't say it started my animation pursuits, it planted the seed. Animations may be seen as a 'childs things' but when you start to dig into animation and all the work it changes. I can't help but want to squeal when I see a beautiful animation now, and this is one that would probably be one I'd have some squeals come out.

[@dejiadeleye3974]

North: Someday I’ll make you laugh Bunnymund. Bunnymund: Me Laugh? That would be Historic. Just cut it off there

[@dirkgently1863]

I was waiting for someone to make a video about this. Thank you.

[@michaelmarto69]

The apple doesn't fall far from the tree Pitchiner : yeah that's my daughter, also help me daughter

[@bowedruby8409]

Tbh I forgot how amazing the animation was in that movie. Really shows that they did care of the project

[@anitanielsen1061]

Book Bunnymund talks like non-human like a typical Alien/Robot Learning To Be Human character

[@azeeq7583]

So, you're fan rotg

[@dopeyz9815]

I was legit sad when the fandom mostly died in 2014 i'm still on my ROTG fan island

[@JinxSanity]

It DID?? I though the HTTYD sequels and the Tangled series and Frozen would had kept alive till now.. But anyway what happened in 2014?? Did the whole Jack/Elsa ship absorb it??

[@อนิรุตน์กิจสวัสดิ์]

juan ortiz Frozen most likely ruined and overshadowed the fandom.

[@corncrackerkid5092]

I recently came back online in the fandom after watching the movie again and re-reading fan fiction, I thankfully never jumped on the Jelsa bandwagon

[@shaydawn7376]

The books may be overly complex, but the art is breathtaking 👍

[@Kiwikick238]

I didn’t realize it was underrated it was huge on tumblr and there was so much fan content

[@austinvoelker9270]

That stuff at the beginning, where you said that this movie inspire you into animation. And how beautiful the movie is with the deleted concepts art. I can feel that same way to. To see all that beautiful work being done, creating wonderful world, designing great works of art in the eye of the beholder. Which after couple of years for me is something I want to do. Which at this moment in time during the whole sickness hullabaloo. I'm trying to do. Trying to make something of a animated film. And it's going great. But I want to say one last thing. How your word were describing it really brought a tear into my heart. I'm not one to talk to stranger that often, but I want to say my appreciation to your words. And I can not wait for the next video.

[@bear.6804]

Is it just me or is this book series unnecessarily complicated?

[@corncrackerkid5092]

I remember when this movie came out and how much it helped with my homesickness, I moved from an area in South Carolina that regularly had snow flurries to southern Florida and for some reason as a fourteen year old it was exactly what I needed, bonus points that the animation was gorgeous and even then I was obsessed with animation as was the film score, from what you’re saying about the books they remind me a lot of Neil Gaiman who has extensive and confusing world building (see Neverwhere, where there’s entire world under London with pockets frozen in time from WW2 and the Graveyard Book where you literally begin from the point of view of a serial killer who was sent after an entire family and the baby he forgot to kill was rescued by a man who is kind of a Grim Reaper, raised by a family of ghosts and grew up in a graveyard with other ghost children and was taught by a Werewolf and found serpent like creatures called the Sleer who were looking for their ‘Master’, and the Graveyard Book is listed as Children’s fiction!) along with beautiful art! I want to read the books even more now!

[@skootergirl22]

People shipped jack with Elsa Because they both have ice powers

[@leechbreath9958]

Jkrhhdmjehd They honestly don't have that much in common besides that...

[@nosleep9816]

Lol

[@heaven5gate]

look up @/neimykanani_edits on instagram (they have a never ending highlight with rotg x frozen parallels), then try to say that they have nothing more in common again :')

[@andresamaya6187]

With all due respect, they don't, I have always said this, Jack and Elsa wouldn't relate that good, Elsa is more calm and serious, a neat freak (and already have Anna for fun) and Jack likes seeking trouble and fun, their personalities aren't even opposites, they are incompatible as they would bother each other, the only way they could be compatible is overwriting their personalities, in fact, I always thought Jack would like Anna more than Elsa but the "Janna" ship wasn't as big as Jelsa (not that I shipped it) and shippers already overlooked Eugene and Rapunzel relation when they shipped Jack x Rapunzel so Kristoff wouldn't have been a problem, shipping is superficial most of the time

[@heaven5gate]

Andrés Amaya chile it ain’t that deep... anyways stan jelsa for clear skin 🥰🥰

[@Sneaky_Snail_Pie_02]

I asked my grandma for the book series for Christmas. Joyce's work is a huge part of my childhood. I grew up with the movies he worked on, and Rollie Pollie Ollie was one of the first TV shows I watched as a toddler. I honestly loved Rise of The Guardians, and the story from the books of the characters actually being aliens isn't that far fetched for me. Of course that's coming from me, a very eccentric person. Edit: I like complicated stories too.... so yeah. This video basically just hooked me onto wanting to read the books even more.

[@gabyfeliciano7927]

To be honest, I dislike the concept of Jack being Nightlight. I would have preferred that Nightlight just died as a metaphor for growing up. The concept of as you get older, you will lose loved ones, or the concept of as you grow older, you will stop needing a Nightlight to sleep with.

[@thebigidea9659]

Holy crap I had no idea all of this existed.I also enjoyed the movie along with my family and was disappointed that more didn't come out.All of this sounds completely insane and yet undeniably intriguing.

[@mjc3206]

It hasn’t felt like eight years. I’ve loved this movie since I first saw it (when it came out on DVD because we didn’t see it in the cinema). I’ve been in the fandom ever since and I also have a big ol shrine in my bedroom :)

[@Cri_Jackal]

God this series needs a reboot, not just so it can come back but so that this nonsense can get DELETED.

[@EXcentricSAM]

OK I don't know how many people are old enough to remember the Ranken Bass (they made rudolf the red nosed reindeer.) stop motion movies but sandman guy is a dead ringer for one of the characters. In a movie where it was the sun vs jack frost, don't go digging for it you'll just be disappointed. they were very hit or miss for every Rudolf or Little drummer boy. there were like 5 that would make you want to stare at paint drying

[@AstelineArt]

heat miser?

[@Akusteisha]

0:12 "I never even heard about that one" Good for you

[@x.con_artist.x]

I clicked so fast- We need more ROTG content on KZbin

[@vernyulkisasszony4708]

About the fairy-sister: Maybe the sister was an idea he wanted to use, but couldn't find a way for it. The different names-thing: He probably thought about variations and tried to give her a name that's fits her the best. Like I also had a character and I was trying to name her. My ideas were June, Heather, May, Edith, Evelynn... But none of it seemed fitting. I settled down with Willow (but in my first drawing of her there are still some scrapped up name ideas written on the paper) and I named her mother Evelynn instead because it fitted her better. (And they are still in process, because I am burnt out, so maybe their story never gets told and I won't be using them at all, ever.) Maybe he tried to get hold of the character, but he didn't ended up using her in the story, because he couldn't figure out how and why. But that's just my hunch. Or he forgot about the previous names he have thought of. It can happen. But yeah, I think he should be update his audience when he figured it out. It's nice to see the process, but it's important to clear up that her canon-form is still on work, so the changes won't feel inconsistent. But I am not in the fandom or follow him (this is the first time I hear about the books), so maybe I am getting it wrong.

[@alexestevez-bm8ml]

This movie was my absolute favourite, and honestly, it still is one of my favourite 3D animated movies.

[@Screpdoodle]

who thought I'd be learning about Rise of the Guardians lore in 2021- I mean, I ain't complaining. It's reignighting my old/new hyperfixation and I love it