Hi-Rez LayOffs Discussion

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[@dragonhero14]

I'll say this. The CEO needs to go. He has made so many poor choices for the studio. Leaving Twitch for Mixer. Pushing terrible changes to Realm Royale, killing the game. Pushing huge investment into mobile games(which all failed). Not giving Smite proper focus(moving it from UE3 to 4). Not properly supporting or encouraging content creators for years. He is also part of the reason Smite had poor server stability issues since he insisted they host their servers with INAP. INAP was known throughout the industry for poor reliability, but he refused to move since he was buddies with executives at INAP. I would see it as a huge red flag when a company keeps struggling to earn a new win under the same management. Laying people off is him admitting that he's failed as a leader, but won't take responsibility as one.

[@cultofcringthulhu]

10000% this guy' has been lead to so many obvious and blatantly stupid mistakes that have hi-rez into being a failure that is barely alive. Both smite and paladins could have been market leads if they made smart decisions and actually improved their games. Hi-rez has always had bad management and it shows.

[@johnx140]

THIS EXACTLY.

[@DestroAzureDx]

I said this exact shit on reddit, this man doesnt add much and his decisions are out of touch garbage. He likely has single handedly ruined every single game Hi-rez has put out.

[@claytonc6417]

Glassdoor reviews confirmed this back in like season 4. Frequent mentions of internal testing yielding to a certain someone's ego, blowing company's revenue on trend-chasing pet projects. Investors and board hate him, but he owns the company and is impossible to reign in. I bet he'll be forced to sell a huge part of his stake by the state of Georgia if this doesn't change

[@ImmortalMarshmallow]

Somehow the players and/or developers need to push him out. The CEO and all the horrible Higher-up decisions are the sole reason for almost every single L the Company has taken. And now their YEARS of poor decisions, mismanagement and horrible leadership has caused OTHER people to become affected. He says he takes full responsibility yet he's still the one sitting in his office making the decisions. It's pathetic.

[@jasonsavage8494]

Tldr of Stu's grovelling: - We announced Smite 2 way too early. In doing so, we put Smite 1 on life support, deleted the pro scene, and changed what was a slow decline into a rapid freefall. - We exacerbated this by repeating the exact same mistake by putting the alpha 24/7 way too early. This set expectations with the playerbase of it being not far off the quality of a full release game. - We knew Smite 2 wasn't close to ready to be fully released, but we treated alpha testing like a proper game instead of sticking to 'alpha = TESTING, testing = short bursts of availability like PTS cycles' and now everyone is bored of Smite 2 because it doesn't yet have enough content to be playable 24/7. - This is my fault, was very predictable, and completely out of the hands of everyone except senior management. But I'm going to drop the consequences on everyone else and avoid any consequences myself and tbh probably get a pay rise next year but it's okay because I said sowwy. Cope What a wonderful example of corporate leadership.

[@darrenl3289]

"It was my fault and responsibility... now excuse me while i keep my CEO salary as i fire you"

[@StevenHardyTV]

lol lets layoff a lot of employees so we can host a 300K tournament for a new game not ready for tournaments

[@mercurialfunk]

Tbf that 300k was probably already allocated awhile ago and can't be touched for stuff like this.

[@DestroAzureDx]

​@@mercurialfunkit should've went towards development not a tourney for a fucking alpha game

[@mercurialfunk]

@DestroAzureDx An alpha game they need to succeed. There's no guarantee that money would have saved these jobs or been used effectively, dont be daft. At least we know where that money is going to for the tourney, the players.

[@DestroAzureDx]

@@mercurialfunk i suppose. Fact stands developing a tourney likely was a waste of time and didnt improve interest in smite 2 in its unfinished state.

[@StevenHardyTV]

@mercurialfunk they could have held a tournament for a lot less than 300k. That's a lot of money for a tournament no one is really interested in because of how boring the game currently is at the moment. I don't care about the jobs being cut that's a fact of life it happens all the time, but the 300k is a waste and isn't help improve the game or bring interest to the game. Bad business decisions which hirez is know for just like how they put all that money into realm tournaments then didn't have money to develop the game anymore

[@ConcerninglyWiseAlligator]

If his paycheck doesn't say $0.00 he isn't taking responsibility.

[@voideverlasting8213]

Stewart basically said "Some of you may die, but that is a sacrifice I am willing to make"

[@sleepyillusions]

Lord Farquad type beat

[@AjaxOutlaw]

Even TinyTina 😢 she was my favorite dev!

[@JohnnyFamas139]

Can’t wait to see all of the ex employee interviews. I’ve seen some of ex paladins devs do some over the years and God I don’t know how that company still exist. Probably because the paladins community is nonexistent, but if those interviews got tractions. Hirez rep would fall even more which there basically already at rock bottom.

[@DevinGroves93]

Oof! I like it when Incon spills the tea! 🎉

[@GWFarma]

Really unfortunate for a lot of people that lost their jobs.

[@tristanjohnson5773]

@@GWFarma not only that these content creators that are bound by these viewer points system are going to sink with the ship

[@NicholasDarling]

yeah pretty much the reason why all companies are dogshit now, management is never held accountable for anything... They just blame the lower people for their mistakes, but shit runs downhill if there's shit all below it's all shit above. It's not like they had bad developers or casters or anything either... Just managed absolutely horribly, like smite is my favorite game as far as how it felt to play gods/characters... How their kits functioned and mastering them thousands of hours in when you understood all the little details of every god. Like i still don't know why the fck smite doesn't just have surveys for better matchmaking, like if you want harder games fill out a survey and if you don't give a crap don't then match the people with the closest levels of game knowledge together... Simple asfck, and can get people who don't understand what positioning and other basic things is out of matchmaking with people who played for 1,000s of hours of mastering those basics. - Or like tunnel vision, people who understand what tunnel vision is and accidentally do it are entire leagues better than those who just run it down chasing the first enemy to get baited to death. - or baiting fck i can keep going on and on with basics that people are completely oblivious too, but people who don't understand what baiting is getting absolutely manhandled by anyone patient who does and they usually cry "ohhh they are terrible all they do is run away" >.>

[@avipinckney]

4:04 unless he’s saying that his poor leadership means he should’ve fired them earlier

[@cultofcringthulhu]

At this point, i expect a hi-rez bankruptcy or being bought out by a larger company.

[@kurtf3441]

Thanks for confirming that I made the right decision in refunding my founder's pack to play Deadlock. Done with the deadbeat dad that is Hi-Rez. Look at what they did to the Tribes community, and know they will do that to you in a heartbeat if SMITE ever stops being worth it to them.

[@Fundinator]

They announced smite 2 way to early tbh. They should of waited at least another year or 2 before announcing it. I have been playing since the xbox beta so around mid season 2 and this is first time i have just lost all motivation to play. The game has just not felt the same since the smite 2 announcement.

[@dannnnnnnnnn24]

The big issue with pulling Smite 2 monetization is that the most avid Smite fans (and big spenders) likely make up a good chunk of those who switched over when 2 came out. Also nobody wants to spend a bunch of $$$ on a game that everyone knows will be sunset soon. The two concurrent games strategy isn't viable with their numbers and they have to know this. You need to force the Smite players to Smite 2 for this to have any chance.

[@FlipBoji]

It’s funny because people who are saying the doomsayers doomed when in fact leadership ruined the game and their strategy failed

[@DestroAzureDx]

Its a common occurance for thier ceo to do dogshit choices to ruin thier games

[@tristanjohnson5773]

Ya there company is going bankrupt this is the natural progression with a company trying to keep it alive it’s not gonna last longer unless u rehaul the whole company witch doesn’t work for the community

[@N7Prometheus]

Hi rez also uses DEI hiring practices

[@AlterStrifeo]

​@@N7Prometheuswhat does this even mean lmfao

[@N7Prometheus]

@@AlterStrifeo It means they give struggle sessions to white people about their "white" privilege because we are the guilty race. And that's assuming a non-lgbt white person gets hired at all.

[@N7Prometheus]

All for their ESG social credit score

[@AlterStrifeo]

@@N7Prometheus that also adds nothing snd comes off as weird

[@tristanjohnson5773]

I really like smite at one point but when u copy and paste a game. Then release it twice in a garbage state. Then have terrible marketing. And from what I get from all this is that there surprised what there doing isn’t working when it didn’t work the first time

[@clxse1]

It's like what happend to CS:GO they launched CS2 twice as bad. No PRO player has gotten the global elite so far(the highest rank) because of cheaters. C.R.A.Z.Y golden age of games has gone. Now we either gonna have really good games from now on , or everybody gonna sell their PC's.

[@alexaxy3328]

What marketing do you expect? It's a close alpha, it doesn't need any marketing yet.

[@Vesarret]

With CEOs like these, unionizing isn't just a moral good for the employees, its an ethical necessity to stop bad management running companies aground while they land with golden parachutes

[@HookahOtaku]

Poor Tina. She didnt deserve this. Just goes to show how stupid the leadership of Hirez has always been since TRIBES.

[@danielvandiest1401]

Why are we not having an outcry to have Hi-Rez remove their CEO?

[@AngryPickles]

That second paragraph breakdown 😮 You got me good with the lmfao on that one.

[@PunkyBoyGWiz]

Why would they release a game with 20 freaking gods man they should have waited at least a year to announce the game. Should have started with 50+ gods right off the bat.

[@alotofhoopla7624]

people are laid off, many losing their livelihoods and you're talking about the number of gods.

[@MrWEST1]

Its like the jobs at question are directly reliant upon the game. ​@alotofhoopla7624

[@Fyre11]

For potential new players.

[@nicholasroberts3202]

That’s not an issue rn bro

[@onyxl]

It may not be the ONLY issue but it definitely is a factor in smite rapidly going south. How you release a game with limited Gods? Smite is known for having a large variety of Gods, all with different kits. Smite 2 should have never been released or announced at all if they didn’t have a good roster. At least half the Gods probably would’ve helped. Then they add 2 Gods every month or something which is ridiculous. It’s simple, less Gods, less skins, less money being brought in! IMO

[@savagequeenxm97]

So as a community what can we do to fix this? Because clearly the current CEO isn’t cutting it. If we can fix this?

[@ImmortalMarshmallow]

We need to try, somehow

[@fireflyeeeee2980]

I honestly feel a game like Smite deserved a better studio. One of its kind and it went to Hirez.

[@DaKatGod]

I haven't played Smite since December 2020, so I know I haven't contributed much to the game company. I forgot exactly "why" I stopped playing, but I'm naturally a very casual person, with a very-easy chance to get angry at something. I spent 2,200 hours playing the game (which isn't a lot compared to most), and naturally I took many breaks from playing it. Once I was able to spend my own money on the game, I did it every so often. I didn't pour ungodly amounts into something like the Odyssey events or anything, but maybe once every 2 months, if that. It's not that I didn't have fun in the game; I'm pretty sure I did. It's just the amount of times I was having fun was outweighed by the times I was getting angry at/in the game, so I had to cut myself off from playing it. I do still watch Smite content creators playing the game, because they just scratch that itch for me. Loved the breakdown, Incon.

[@fabseal]

For the last two years, I spent almost no money on smite (just purchased the founder's pack for S2). I was quite disappointed with the pricing system, and with the announcement of S2 and a very sloppy alpha, i just didn't feel like spending more time on the game. Layoffs are a clear indicator of both business troubles. Both leadership greed and inability to hit revenue targets. Best of luck to the employees who lose their jobs, and I guess good luck Smite, your fate is shaky and unknown.

[@capnslapn2905]

Hi Rez has been impressively mismanaged for as long as they havent filed for bankruptcy.

[@ryuken4065]

The game was so much better when it started. Then they started implementing too many League of legends game style into smite 1. All they needed to do to keep the game good was make more maps and rotate em instead of replacing em, add more characters as they've been doing and item balances as new characters get added. it could have been that simple. But making smite 1 into a 3d person league was a horrible direction..then they started losing players and so they added bots which ruined it more. Then they make a smite 2..like why? Horrible leadership in their development team.

[@freeq1829]

I liked Smite but honestly their reporting/ban system sucks. Some toxic enemy players spam reported me because of Weak3n. That dude was mad cause me and my buddy focused him and said we were stream sniping, which we weren't. Just kept ganking him lmfao

[@jamieeddolls5605]

Sounds like you were playing like a goofball then, can't be surprised

[@freeq1829]

@@jamieeddolls5605 Playing the game like its meant to be played? LOLwe were nezha and fenrir tho he had no chance either with no escape

[@jamieeddolls5605]

@@freeq1829 spam gank the streamer isn't how the game is supposed to be played ya dork, you sit there giddy in your seat and your team sits there losing

[@freeq1829]

@@jamieeddolls5605 there's no rules against ganking a streamer. I can gank them all I want. And yes it was fun. As for hi rez, it's good they're laying off a bunch of idiots. Their support team is garbage

[@jetsettech8804]

​@@jamieeddolls5605 but would you spam gank their best player?

[@Dec0y77]

Was the expectations not for the Gods to be implemented 2 per week originally?

[@DestroAzureDx]

It was announced too late, they werent very clear with plans for smite 2 and launched alpha way too early. The issue is that people want more gods, its literally the only content to mess around with in smite 2

[@nicholasroberts3202]

I still have hope, all we can do is hope, I love this game so much and it would really suck to see it fall out

[@DARKINBLADE.]

To me this truly marks the end of Smite and Hi-Rez as a whole. I genuinely do not see how they’re going to come back from this whilst Smite 2 is not reaching expectations. Getting rid of such iconic names like Tina and Ena to me indicate MASSIVE troubles going on behind the scenes. In fact they got rid of a lot of art/creative team it seems, makes me wonder if they plan on switching to AI… if they do, yeah I won’t bother continue to even follow the development of Smite 2 and Hi-Rez games in general.

[@momentary_]

With only a pool of 20 gods, a paywall just to play, no monetization beyond the paywall and the immediate abandonment of SMITE 1, I was in awe by how terribly this was planned out. I'm honestly curious to know how they expected this to play out. Counter-Strike 2 was an even bigger graphical upgrade over its predecessor than SMITE 2 was over SMITE and yet somehow, Valve managed to allow everyone to keep their cosmetics, items, stats and achievements while keeping the game free-to-play.

[@unbiddenisland]

That's cause valve owns that engine the games built on, it's a lot easier to make it so things port over. Same with OW and COD. Hirez doesn't own unreal engine, they don't have the same access that those games do it's not the same.

[@michaelwerner5049]

The plan was make it look like LoL, have LoL build stuff. Then hope you could get even .5% of the LoL playerbase to hop on over. It's the same shit they did with Realm Royal and Fortnite. They just don't respect their playerbase they want others

[@neverclever0]

Great breakdown. Some hard truths, but good analysis needs to delivers the bitter pills. Smite has been a part of my life (off and on), for a very long time. It's always a shame to see corporate BS ruin a great game, but it's hardly new or surprising.

[@Fiduins]

I've been playing SMITE since the first week of closed beta in 2012, I'm trying to be open minded about SMITE 2, but honestly I just can't get myself to enjoy it as much as the original, maybe in a year when it has about 25% of the content of the original and my favorite gamemode, but I'm guessing Hi-Rez at that point would just do a complete nose dive with bad decisions.

[@bogidar92]

I think it's not CEO's decisions that are ruining the game but the top managers and decisions makers. Look at this realistically, Stewie doesn't know much about game dedvelopment and I'm sure there are some bad BI engineers and data analysts showing him non-relevant data trying to cover up for their poor decisions. Anyway, unfortunately for all the people that are laid off I think it is the correct decision to focus on SMITE 2 mostly. Only decision here is, as you say Incon, releasing a "playable" gameto the public in this state and basically cutting off their money from Smite 1 by splitting the player base.

[@Faxanadu_]

How the fuck is the CEO still there, what the actual fuck

[@DARKINBLADE.]

Incon, I genuinely think it’s time to make the switch to a different game. I cannot see Smite or Hi-Rez as a whole lasting much longer without making extremely poor decisions. Not sure what other games you like but I’ll be down to watch you. I just don’t think I can really bare watching Smite content anymore, it’s too mishandled.

[@wyattainsworth3693]

Damn haven’t started the video and I’m concerned

[@daigustoemeral3710]

3:58 when you get a bad team comp 😂

[@WalletOwala69]

If the CEO made decisions that lead to failure/s to the degree of causing company wide layoffs, the first person who needs to go is that CEO. Fuck your broken heart. Fuck your crocodile tears. These were real working class people with families to feed that can now no longer do so due to said CEO's poor decisions. Especially when you consider often times the CEO's compensation package makes up for several multiples of the effected employees. Your well wishes mean nothing especially in an already tumultuous job market. Guy needs to go.

[@bobertobobino2372]

Wasnt room for paragon

[@DonPhamadio]

You are not taking into account console players in your data - although sure it’ll only add a few thousands we still need to realize that smite 1 / 2 are one of the few moba console games there are. So looking at only steam player count does not fully reflect smites ENTIRE player base

[@michaelwerner5049]

Console players are broke they don't count

[@horn_hero]

Every single game HiRez makes struggles to monetize in some way and then gets dropped. Hand of the Gods deserved better man Edit: how did a SMITE TCG NOT MAKE MONEY?!? Because they didn’t allow you to buy packs. You actually couldn’t spend money

[@lordthundergoose]

so lets ask the real question... WHO is going to buy HIrez for the IP?

[@mercurialfunk]

This is the second biggest L in Smite history. Right after Incon tried to report Genetics for Anhur support

[@daigustoemeral3710]

😂

[@michaelwerner5049]

Vod?

[@djoal0009]

the problem with smite is probably people doesn't buy skin anymore on smite 1 cause they know smite 2 will comes out, and in smite 2 it's too early to buy skin or else so it's hard for hi rez to make money these days hope they keep going with smite 2. i believe they "out" smite 2 too early.

[@clxse1]

They can't even make the game run on my pc , they have no idea how to fix it. I reinstalled the game windows etc , nope. The game just wouldn't launch. It would launch in the 32bit version for some reason , loads of people used 32bit version because 64 bit just wouldn't work. But they removed 32bit and now nobody that has my issue can play the game. Even though I don't really care , as I am playing a bunch of singleplayer games nowadays..

[@giftspritze8122]

Its your pc. The game is running fine. Ive 120 fps high settings 1440p. Ive around 11ms what is pretty good.

[@aesirshero2490]

The issue is and has always been with Stew. He is out of touch with it all. If Smite 2 wants longevity, the game needs new leadership.

[@TheWoolyninja4]

It is so sad because so few games capture my love like smite. Don't get me wrong the game has lots of problems and over the last couple years has been frustrating but man the core of smite is just something I want so bad and I have yet to find anywhere else.

[@swiftknife107]

This makes me so sad. I have more time in smite than any other game I have played. 1,000+ hours. I was so hype for SMITE 2 but they are just fumbling the bag hard. If they even make it to the F2P stage I'll try it. But I feel like its going to be a huge mess by then and not worth. Been playing a lot of Pred lately so I guess thats the new game for now.

[@DoughyDewey]

imagine killing cow for a calf

[@dansmith9678]

Theres no coming back from this people wont invest their time or money now

[@AlterStrifeo]

Nah, ppl will forget layoffs in a month sadly

[@jacobrodriguez-bertoni2716]

Smite 2 released too early and shouldn’t have been an Alpha; at least not one at its current state. They made a lot of bad calls and even now I’m not a fan. Dividing your player base and setting precedent that the old game is/will no longer supported appears to have turned off a lot of players. It may have also brought back some old and new who were willing to give it a try; however again, the state probably scared off possible numbers for their current. The real question is are they going to shut down smite 1 and paladins to keep this project alive and force the player base to move on. Seems like the most likely course of action as they keep putting their eggs in one basket. Who knows maybe they will bite the bullet and make the changes necessary to pull the fans towards it, without pissing them off further with more bad decisions.

[@luxlisbon7054]

Smite 2 killed careers....wow

[@ImmortalMarshmallow]

No, the horrible CEO of this company did.

[@dragomondirector]

Tina.... 😥

[@McRotten]

Smite 2 doesn't have a high player count. It wasn't needed at all

[@dragonhero14]

Why are you expecting a paid closed alpha to have a high player account?

[@Butcherjah]

@@dragonhero14 That’s not even the issue. The issue is Smite 1 had their population cut in half upon the release of Smite 2. Smite 2 retained roughly 1/12th of their player base since release. So smite 1 population being cut in half, no new content, in combination with smite 2 being a complete bust, it’s looking grim.

[@AlterStrifeo]

​@@Butcherjahs1 actually had more players when s2 24/7 came out tbf

[@canaldecasta]

Heroes of the Storm🤝Smite

[@Rux290]

So dissapointed I bought the founders pack, its a pile of shit atm.

[@redxrider44]

Sucks that this is going so downhill. There really isnt a comparable game to how smite or smite 2 plays. If (or more likely when) these games completely die, it wont be an experience available. Guess this a time to move on moment. Feelsbadman.

[@colormop2617]

Yes this is GREAT NEWS because the management teams has been operating poorly with their basement servers that always don’t working ❤

[@CoconutLake]

Why isnt this fixed? Do people not realise how much power they have if they werent argueing about what piece of media is better. No army in the world could stop every citizen 😂 but hey lets just let it happen huh

[@pulltheleverkronk8290]

Hi there, Destiny 2 player as well as smite player (i know I need more grass) I think one thing that people often look over is the state of moral in the studio after a round of massive layoffs. People feel a tremendous impact when good friends get smacked by those layoffs. And if it's like any thing I've seen come from Bungie, is content quality will sink. Not trying to blame anyone still working there. It's just human. People get depressed when something like this happens at their workplace. And the CEO will give absolutely 0 shits as they have a golden parachute.

[@FrostPDP]

I was a pretty heavy Smite 1 player, even put some money into unlocking skins and characters and all that. Was even a Tribes: Ascend player who put money into *that.* I loved it! Then I played a Smite game with a dude with an extremely Nazi name. I reported this to HiRez multiple times and I never, EVER heard anything back. Never got any confirmation that any steps whatsoever were taken. Moreover, when I posted this to the community, the majority of comments weren't "Oh wow, that's really bad." It was, "The Nazi played better than you." I haven't played one game since, and I have no plans to spend a penny on Smite 2. HiRez simply burned that bridge with me.

[@heavenissoon]

Thats so weirdly specific and has nothing to do with game or people managing game

[@jetsettech8804]

Yea this was an L post. This really has nothing to do with the topic and you're being offended at the internet being the internet. People made you quit a game, which is what they wanted. You seem like you're far too sensitive for the internet.

[@FrostPDP]

@@jetsettech8804 I mean, sure, you're right. Pointing out HiRez's failure to provide basic-level moderation as a gaming company is totally unrelated to their current inability to turn a profit on their game. It's not as if Hirez needs players to want to play their games or anything. Totally unrelated. Meanwhile, might I add, your post basically accepts Nazi bullshit as part of the world, as opposed to having any inclination that maybe the gaming company failing to turn a profit should stomp that out. Weird.

[@jetsettech8804]

@@FrostPDP I didn't accept anything. I told you how it is. It's the internet. It will keep happening. If everything on the internet bothers you, then leave the internet. Something in the game bothered you? Leave the game. Don't cry about it on a video unrelated to it.

[@FrostPDP]

​@@jetsettech8804You know what? You're right. You're telling me how it is: HiRez is fine with Nazi behavior and refused to do its job for game moderation. I shouldn't advocate for change or anything. I should be quiet. Let the Nazis have the game. That's what you're suggesting, isn't it? So isn't that accepting Nazis instead of fighting them? Again, weird how you're so okay with that. But NO WAIIII does the loss of paying players have anything to do with HiRez having financial problems, right? Those things are unrelated! (In case you can't tell through the sarcasm: Why shouldn't Hirez do basic moderation of suggestions about how to murder Jews, especially if it costs them players?)

[@karimjc27]

*smite 2 releases August 27* Month later, CEO fires half of the company. The game is DEAD at this point. You mean to tell me after spending all the money i spent on Smite 1, to go to Smite 2 & get scammed because the gems aren’t really the currency of the game & you have to buy “diamonds” to obtain more in Smite 2 & on top of that…. you fire TINA?!?!? Glad i didn’t preorder or bought no pack. Dead game, with a dead brain CEO.

[@AlterStrifeo]

F the c3o and all but you didnt get scamed LMAO

[@TrueGoatKing]

Ben

[@dansmith9678]

Switch games incon

[@savagequeenxm97]

They let go of Tina man. This is awful

[@juststop3263]

I mean everyone in the comments are acting like this doesnt happen all the time.... Oh a ceo is laying people off so he can keep his salary lol and everyone bashing smite 2 dont play it until its actually released problem solved... You guys are complaining about there shouldve been more gods maybe get better with other gods... Every video game developer releases a game early so they can get money....

[@5558sean]

Announcing Smite 2 way to early into development and confirming Smite 1 skins will not carry over to smite 2 is a huge issue. It cuts off the player bases incentive to buy anything on Smite 1 cutting off revenue. Smite 2 being way to early into development got $30 from me day one of announcement just so I could have access to all the gods and see what they cook up. All the Pre-Alpha weekends were lackluster of anything remotely fun. 24/7 Live finally opens and the game is finally in a state where it should have been announced and Pre-Alpha weekends should have begun. The issue is the marketing strategy of Hi-Rez as a whole. Smite 2 has left a bad taste in Alpha weekend users mouths I can't get 1 of my roughly 10 smite playing friends to get on smite 2 for even 1 game. They have no interest in Smite 1 cause its a dead game at this point. They failed to make a good impression due to showing off a buggy mess which just brings the hype train to a screeching halt. "Every video game developer releases a game early so they can get money." But at what cost? They killed Smite 1, showed a mud pie to first time Smite 2 players that has left nobody I know wanting to play the game. Smite doomed itself. With Smite 2s blunders and people like Mast uploading Deadlock it left me and a couple friends to try Deadlock in Alpha. Thoughts after playing a couple games where, woah this is an alpha this is really polished and a lot of fun I'm very excited to see what they do with what they have. You show off a polished game which lacks some content and balancing and make a good impression people get interest in the project a lot more. Smite 2 Pre alpha weekend 1 treated us to a nice display of desynced autos, auto just don't feel right, button inputs feel delayed, servers don't work, can't rejoin the game your in, can't type to teammates, minion AI doesn't work in lane, minions can't even get to lane just chilling at jungle camps, etc, etc, etc. A lot of these issues have been corrected but nobody I know wants to touch the game with a 10-foot pole due to the Alpha weekend experience. What was Hi-Rez thinking? "Don't play it until its actually released." I don't think as many people are coming back as you think.

[@juststop3263]

@@5558sean then don't play it... Usually when someone plays it and doesn't like it is when they are losing.... I think the game was fine but there are a lot of bugs im just here for the ride and want to see the improvements they make and the friends you play with probably f6 at ten when they are down....

[@Legacy4HI]

This isn't fair incon...need better analysis

[@skipskops]

I am so glad I didn't spend a penny on smite 2. Smite 1 is going downhill, constantly leavers constant DCS. Terrible match making. The community is getting far too small for the match making to be balanced or fair anymore. Releasing and announcing smite 2 so early, when it's CLEARLY not ready was the biggest mistake they've made. People are now seeing other games and moving across, because they offer two games, one of which is now in freefall because of their new release, and their new release being so bad it's not worth it.

[@derrickjohnstone-nj9gf]

Good.

[@dansmith9678]

The game just died RIP

[@KoltonsRealEstate]

Have you admitted Smite 2 sucks yet?

[@absgames9425]

Paladins has 4600 peak players right now XD, I'm not sure you should be betting all your money on Smite 🤣

[@dragonis9609]

im honest i stoped watching you because you only play smite .. and smite is terrible and i cant stand behind someone that keeps playing it.. i will instant watch you again if you switch the game and i think you should switch and hope your community will stay and you will even grow bigger

[@POWDERPACKS]

All companys "trim the fat" from time to time

[@AlterStrifeo]

Maybe you should trim your time online to none

[@POWDERPACKS]

@@AlterStrifeo 😅😅😅😅 boo hoo some 1 that makes banners on ue3 got fired cry about it

[@AlterStrifeo]

@@POWDERPACKS oh so youre geuinly just a bad person. Youre why the games not doing good community wise. Leave it.

[@POWDERPACKS]

@@AlterStrifeo 😅😅😅 youee so delusional

[@markopolo1902]

dead game omegalul😆😆

[@Cliodhna-z1i]

I've been long waiting for the day this game fails. I hope it fails and the awful community it fosters.

[@NamesAreRandom]

It's a games company - either it has games that make money or it doesn't and HiRez doesn't. Smite 2 is the hail mary but it's unlikely to take off, lets be honest. HiRez are in deep trouble and will go under in a year or two. You can't just blame the CEO either - it's hard to make a game that takes off, and HiRez tried several times to make another successful game, I am sure everyone worked really hard, but it just didn't happen. It's just life in a capitalist system.

[@ReeceSelby-u8s]

Are the the CEO using a different account? ;)

[@projectrex101]

go woke go broke

[@sirunklydunk8861]

Hey look everyone. An idiot! Point and laugh!

[@cultofcringthulhu]

Hahaha

[@alexaxy3328]

How is Smite 2 woke?

[@shawnfromstatefarm8822]

You people generally don’t even know what that word means in the slightest and just use it in any situation 😂.

[@Disilluisoned]

The problem is smite 2. It's dead in the water lost a lot of the player base which was already tiny when they didn't transfer players skins that they paid cash for over from smite. Tbh smite 2 is 5 years too late the game is a shit show. Same problems as its predecessor bad matchmaking it won't survive a year. Hi rez are hoping thousands and thousands play it's not happening....

[@giftspritze8122]

Smite 2 is super fun , but for sure limited. Its an Alpha or more like Beta. But it will be huge. I dont care youre all like sheeps. My friends say smite 2 is so bad cry cry cry. I asked them why is it so bad? 0 arguments. -like dumbshit Colors Matchmaking Small god pool And all other stuff . They really dont know what they are talking about imo.

[@oneofakindmind]

Smite 2 is ass

[@DIsturbios1234]

Incon is such a doomsayer over smite 2 holy shit.