I'd love to hear more stories of Native American historical figures. That's an aspect of history we really don't get exposed to enough of.
@hiromiarash1728 жыл бұрын
Unless you are Canadian then there is to much
@xertris8 жыл бұрын
I'm american and proud of it, but i can't shake the idea of moving to canada.
@arkhamerp.l.62568 жыл бұрын
I'm french-canadian and I say we don't get taught squat about native history or culture in school or in the medias and I know it's a lot the same in the rest of Canada. So, where do you get the idea that it's too much?
@SolSiDR8 жыл бұрын
Gord Downie disagreed with you just a few nights ago.
@thetruerift8 жыл бұрын
Never enough.
@TheNetherlandDwarf8 жыл бұрын
"he wanted all people to live in peace" It was at that moment I could tell something bad is gonna happen to that guy
@warlock9848 жыл бұрын
He dies...eventually, I'm not sure when or how, but he dies.
@imveryangryitsnotbutter8 жыл бұрын
Well of course he dies. We all die eventually.
@tenlosol8 жыл бұрын
+I'm Very Angry It's Not Butter not if you believe in reincarnation. not technically at least.
@piranha0310918 жыл бұрын
Well, something like 6.5% of all humans who were ever born are currently alive. And if the singularity comes soon enough and goes well, the concept of "death" may become irrelevant to many of us. Or, to quote Ray Kurzweil, "live long enough to live forever"...
@KenjiShiratsuki8 жыл бұрын
Idealists often die for their ideals, but not before making a permanent impression upon the world. It is necessary for humanity to abolish war and violence in order to evolve further, and until that occurs, we will suffer from lack of resources, sickness, crime, and drama. Until we take that next step, people will still have heartbreaking divorces and violent mobs to deal with. Until we can fully devote resources to peaceful efforts, rather than even protective war efforts (like having the soldiers and weapons to go to war just to keep others from doing so), we won't be able to cure cancer or AIDS fully, we won't be able to extend lives, and we won't have the ability to feed everyone or house them without destroying the very planet we live on. TLDR: Humans, get a clue, fighting is POINTLESS.
@FlourishCaster8 жыл бұрын
Nya:weh [Thank You] to Extra Credits for this great episode. I gotta admit; I was very nervous going into this one. Never would I think that Extra Credits would purposefully disrespect a people's history, but our people's history is undervalued even in our home country. However, I was impressed by the candor, accuracy, and respect given to the story of Hiawatha and the Great Peacemaker and Jikonhsaseh.
@extrahistory8 жыл бұрын
Thank you back. I was very nervous going into writing this one; I'm aware that this history, when it's told at all, is often distorted by inaccuracy and assumption, and the last thing I wanted to do was add more to that legacy. So I put a lot of effort and a lot of time into reading all the versions of this history I could find and learning all I could about the cultures of each of the Five Nations. I'm sure I still made mistakes, but I am truly glad that the effort shows through. I hope the second and final episode will also live up to this standard! -Soraya
@FlourishCaster8 жыл бұрын
The nature of the oral tradition creating slight variations on the same story makes it totally understandable to hear a slight take on an event. I'm an Oneida person, lived in the First Nations community in my city for nearly 25 years, and I still hear new variations from elders, scholars, and storytellers. The core themes and ideas remain largely the same with each telling, though, and that is what's important.
@Landis9638 жыл бұрын
Does any variation of the story give a reason for the architects of this peace not waiting to turn Tadodaho until all the rest of the tribes had bought in to the Great Law? That is, going to the Seneca (or whoever was left besides the Onondaga) with overtures of peace to consolidate power before approaching Tadodaho with a request that he would dismiss out of hand.
@FlourishCaster8 жыл бұрын
According to an Elder, the reason why Hiawatha came to Tadodaho after recruiting the Oneida with the Peacemaker (who is Mohawk) is because he wanted to bring not only the source of this new Great Law (the Peacemaker) but also one other Nation that had embraced it. Sort of like showing the blueprints and the proof of concept at the same time. Like they said in the video, Hiawatha believed that 2 Nations embracing peace would persuade Tadodaho to at least consider the Great law of Peace.
@redcoat43488 жыл бұрын
I live in the U.S., in NY as well. I live in former Algonquian territory, but I learned much more about the Iroquois then the Algonquian.
@patronofdragons8 жыл бұрын
Whoa whoa. I live in that part of NY and we (barely) learn about the Iroquois (once) in elementary school but we were never told this. Hell, we even have a (shitty outskirt) street called "Hiawatha" but we were never told it was named after someone.
@hiromiarash1728 жыл бұрын
I live in the opposite end in Canada but we learnt so much about the Iroquois confederacy
@gacorley8 жыл бұрын
Yeah, how much people in the US learn about Native people is pretty spotty. Some schools do better than others but it's mostly crap.
@CodyMacArthurFett8 жыл бұрын
That's because schools in the US usually take their curriculum from California or Texas. Books adopted by those states are usually accepted by all others (or 50/50 of them, there are two states as leaders after all) with few exceptions. So you as a New Yorker would not learn NY history unless you specifically sought it out or used some alternative form of schooling that used an alternative curriculum like homeschooling or some private schools. I feel your pain though, I always thought that Vermont history was a bore where nothing happened until I took a course on it in college. Turns out that your state and mine have quite a storied history. Did you know that at one point Vermont was going to annex a fourth of modern New York and almost all of New Hampshire and was only stopped from going full American Anschluss by a letter from George Washington telling the government of the Vermont Republic that annexing "Greater Vermont" would jeopardize the young nation's application to join the United States. It was quite a change from when New York was sending in troops to suppress angry Connecticut settlers in the Green Mountain area.
@patronofdragons8 жыл бұрын
Cody Fett Holy shit. I did not knowthat about Vermont and New York. Here's the thing. In fourth grade our Social Studies was centered on the history of NY (I still remember the text books. It was blue and had the words "NEW YORK" around the Statue of Liberty). The fact that we barely learned anything about pre-colonial NY and our relationship with Vermont is really disheartening
@matthewG9808 жыл бұрын
I grew up in the Oneida area and had teachers that were part of the Oneida nation. We learned a bit more about history like this as a result. It's awesome to see this history being told.
@ElBandito8 жыл бұрын
Onondaga, Oneida, Cayuga, Seneca, Mohawk. Long ago, the five nations lived together in harmony. Then everything changed, when the pale faces arrived.
@Fuzzmunky8 жыл бұрын
*slowclap.gif*
@JVarley90018 жыл бұрын
Really, a lot of history could be summed up with "But everything changed when the white people attacked."
@ElBandito8 жыл бұрын
MusicandGamesandStuf Europeans conquered Americas even when the natives didn't piss them off, lol.
@StephySon8 жыл бұрын
HA! That was good hehe
@ElBandito8 жыл бұрын
Aerunn Allado 1. No one is insulting anyone. 2. Nation states didn't exist in the Americas when the first Europeans arrived. 3. Try harder next time.
@SultanOfAwesomeness8 жыл бұрын
Holy shit. I've never been very interested in Native American history. I might have to take a 180 on that now.
@extrahistory8 жыл бұрын
^ May be one of the best compliments I've ever received. -Soraya
@k1productions878 жыл бұрын
+Extra Credits Oh don't worry, virtually every single Extra History series has done that for so many people, stretching all the way back to The Punic Wars. That first epic on Hannibal is what finally made me click that Subscribe button, and your updates are always a high point for me. I only wish I had some spare cash that I could donate to the EH Patreon, so I could help support and contribute.... but alas, rent must be paid and teeth must be fixed T~T
@extrahistory8 жыл бұрын
Don't even sweat it. We love our patrons for making EH possible, but we tell them over and over not to pledge beyond what's comfortable for them, and the same applies to you. We're happy that we get to do this and grateful for the love that keeps our morale engines running.
@TheKurtkapan348 жыл бұрын
i just love this tone of voice
@daBuzzY908 жыл бұрын
I've gotta say, you're extra history tidbits are the best :)
@connemignonne8 жыл бұрын
I cried almost the whole way through this, Jigonsaseh and Hiawatha are too pure for this world, bless.
@Christopher-qq4dl Жыл бұрын
Amen!
@extrahistory8 жыл бұрын
Bonus episode brought to you by DomiNations! smarturl.it/DOMHistory Your regularly scheduled Gracchi Brothers series on Extra History will continue as normal this Saturday!
@inger23278 жыл бұрын
oh ok thanks i didn't know
@ea49668 жыл бұрын
yass if I could sponsor this I would be giving this all my money each yet
@jinglelam36028 жыл бұрын
+Mirjalol Mirsaburov how so?
@evannationarmy77698 жыл бұрын
I like dominations
@roguishpaladin8 жыл бұрын
Well, they DID list a Patreon link in the video description. So yes, you can support it!
@KennethSee8 жыл бұрын
As a Native American I am ecstatic that this is being covered! Thank you guys!
@AbdulRahman-bi1nu2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I can tell you look Native American
@nightbling89053 ай бұрын
You are the most Caucasian Native American I’ve ever seen…
@djmegnin318811 ай бұрын
As someone from this region of New York (Onondaga), the story of Hiawatha and the Iroquois is a huge part of our history classes. Love seeing this recognition of the great Iroquois people
@extrahistory8 жыл бұрын
Hiawatha wanted peace for his nation, but a powerful war chief stood in his way. He needed allies.
@leronbenari2268 жыл бұрын
I bet 1 million dollers extra credits won't respond to this comment.
@manguy018 жыл бұрын
And with whom do you make this bet?
@inger23278 жыл бұрын
+MicManGuy me
@hiromiarash1728 жыл бұрын
This was a completely different story in my classroom then you said Hiawatha wasn't even there when they told it and they didn't know a thing about wampums before
@means_of_production78078 жыл бұрын
Walpole?
@Gonboo8 жыл бұрын
Hiawatha wanted peace, Gandhi had other plans.
@lunamoonfang25 жыл бұрын
I can see someone who plays Civilization.
@alejandrojoserodriguezarre455 жыл бұрын
"Let them all burn in the nuclear fires, so they might be purified" Gandhi, 1820
@utkarshdubey34354 жыл бұрын
I'm confused, can someone tell me what's the joke?
@user-tq9jv2gj6u4 жыл бұрын
@@utkarshdubey3435 There's this game that both Gandhi and Hiwatha are in called civilization. And the joke is that for some reason in the game Gandhi is ultra aggressive.
@alexanderrodriguezygibson74184 жыл бұрын
NUKES!!!!
@255ad8 жыл бұрын
The best estimate I’ve heard for the dating of these events is sometime around 1150. that was arrived at by looking at how many leaders the Haudenosaunee are supposed to have had and working out the average amount of time prestigious public offices held for life (popes, kings, supreme court Judges, etc) typically last. Working back like that you get to somewhere around the mid-12th century
@Horesmi8 жыл бұрын
Meanwhile Iroquois in EU4... "CASUS BELI? THERE WILL BE NO CASUS BELI! THERE CAN BE ONLY WAR, ENDLESS WAR!!!"
@ql90668 жыл бұрын
CASUS BELLI*
@joeybroda91678 жыл бұрын
Iroquois society began to collapse when it became devastated by disease. Wars began to be the fought by Iroquois against other groups to acquire people (the mourning war) and more resources and trade routes. The Huron to their North were allied with France but France refused to give arms to Hurons who weren't Christians. The Dutch and English didn't have such a qualm and so the Iroquois became much better armed than their neighbours. So many things happened at once that catapulted the Iroquois to become a massive regional power.
@Horesmi8 жыл бұрын
+L'Orso “Il Piromane” Totalworriano Oh come on!
@ql90668 жыл бұрын
AlHoresmi sorry but has fan of EU4 my eyes were bleeding ç.ç
@ahmeddyasalkhwarizmi87835 жыл бұрын
You play European war 4?
@Armaprimid8 жыл бұрын
I have to admit I was very surprised to see this upload, but I'm also extremely grateful to see my local history being shared and given attention by a larger outlet. Thank you very much for sharing this story, E.C.
@alexandervornoff81578 жыл бұрын
When I still worked at the Carnegie Museum of Natural History, I always liked to tell people in the Hall of American Indians about the Haudenosaunee. I loved working the cultural halls in general, but it was something fresh and interesting for the visitors considering how little Native American history is taught in US schools.
@jamieharper19324 жыл бұрын
There not called Indians
@IsakSko9 ай бұрын
@@jamieharper1932cry more about it bro
@juniusedward93664 ай бұрын
What is the difference between American Indian and Alaska Natives?
@BDeerhead8 жыл бұрын
I think it's great that you guys are doing a series on First Nations history before the arrival of Europeans. So many times whenever I hear about the history of Native Americans, it's always about how they were conquered and displaced by European invaders. I never get to learn the history of their culture before Columbus. And I especially appreciate that the subject matter of Extra History isn't limited to any particular culture, or even format of historical record. It's pretty hard to do fact checking when you're getting all your information from an oral history. But the fact that your acceptable forms of historical records are not limited merely to scripture, shows an open mindedness and an eagerness to learn and share the wisdom of the past, which isn't always as broad in scope as some people would like to believe of themselves. Besides, sometimes the lessons that history can teach us, are more important than getting all the tiny details right. Thank you sincerely for sharing these stories with all of us.
@conroads26263 жыл бұрын
Mohawk here It's nice to have our culture and society appreciated
@QuillStroke3 жыл бұрын
I'm 1/3 Mohawk I'd love to learn more about that part of my heritage.
@conroads26263 жыл бұрын
@@QuillStroke Yeah me too. On the American side.
@SQUAREHEADSAM19123 жыл бұрын
@@QuillStroke I’m only 1/64 Mohawk but yes, this is a very interesting topic.
@flashfire201robloxlegosand88 жыл бұрын
I am in awe of what you guys are doing with this history series. Everything is perfect. Everything down to the filtered voice on the narration is amazing. I especially love that you guys pick stories that not a lot of people are terribly familiar with. Keep up the good work!
@jaykebird2go8 жыл бұрын
I live in Wisconsin, near where the Oneida reservation is today, and I think it's super cool that you're telling this story about the formation of this confederacy.
@naurrr8 жыл бұрын
also in wisconsin, the amtrak line connecting milwaukee to chicago is called the hiawatha line.
@StepBackHistory8 жыл бұрын
YES! This is the kind of video I wanted to see Extra history tackle!
@BrezzyEntertainment15 жыл бұрын
It's quite interesting listening to this because I used to live in the Mohawk Valley and never knew that. I just knew the name sounded familiar because there's street named after him in Syracuse by the mall . And I was also stationed by there with the Army National Guard.
@Vicioussama8 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you're bringing this up, too few realize how much the Natives influenced our nation's government/creation and its formation :)
@peytonvogel89025 жыл бұрын
Hiawatha: make your own choices! Also Hiawatha: you must Choose peace.
@gokce95218 жыл бұрын
tadodaho seems awfuly like me when im plaing EU 4 as a tribal nation
@Horesmi8 жыл бұрын
It's fucking EU4, a game that seems to take ideas about war not from history, but from Warhammer.
@LizzieLeporidae8 жыл бұрын
I knew it wasn't just me who thought that!
@eminemishh8 жыл бұрын
I've never even played a Native American nation.
@skykid8 жыл бұрын
yeah it's a pretty boring game if you just try to maintain peace with everyone :P
@smygskytt17128 жыл бұрын
How? Bigger army wins has always been true for humanity.
@bubblegumpanda91958 жыл бұрын
A new Extra History on a Thursday?! What have I done to deserve this is it my birthday???
@hiromiarash1728 жыл бұрын
It's beautiful
@Bartholomule018 жыл бұрын
The beauty of SponCon
@BlakLite158 жыл бұрын
Yesterday just so happened to be my birthday. Don't worry, I'm willing to share my late birthday present.
@bubblegumpanda91958 жыл бұрын
Aw happy birthday! Hope it was great, and thanks for sharing this gift with us ;)
@StephySon8 жыл бұрын
Mine is today now actually XD
@jetstreamjackie34378 жыл бұрын
Extra History has expanded my understanding of history so much, and has given me so much evidence to combat the claims that "humans are inherently evil and cannot escape their own fate." Thank you so much for everything you do. You help people better themselves, and I respect you so much for that
@FuzzyPanda9628 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for these episodes. It can be tricky finding these kinds of stories of the First Nations online and especially challenging to find them told by people of European descent with respect. I appreciate your disclaimers at the beginning of this video as well, that this is one interpretation of the story, and the way you treat this particular episode like a storyteller and use the correct names and words for all involved. It is easy as a white man to feel nothing but sadness and guilt when discussing Native American history but this really warms my heart, thank you for telling this story and being so respectful.
@Happy00Fangirl8 жыл бұрын
Yay, indigenous American history! So glad to see it here.
@rcteske8 жыл бұрын
Wow, this was one your best episodes: easy to grasp, important content, funny and very informative illustrations (who drew this one?)... I bow to you extra credits/history people, this was a treat.
@Xaielao28 жыл бұрын
I love this series and as an Upstate New Yorker I'm thoroughly enjoying this one in particular. We are many local stories and legends about the native peoples who lived here on Seneca Lake. Many of our villages, landmarks, our lakes and mountains, even many notable tourist attractions are Native American in origin. Their stories and legends and histories deserve to be remembered. So thank you Extra Credit for spreading the word on one of the most beautiful and historic locations in the Northeast. I love the Finger Lakes I love the Finger Lakes region and recommend everyone visit comma weather be for our famous vineyards or are Native American history. :-)
@vazhalaenenyan22528 жыл бұрын
People's liking of history is all about how the history is told, boring memorization of facts will never win over anyone, but informative, entertaining series like this will. Thank you for getting me interested in the history of the New World
@anonimo29328 жыл бұрын
Tadodaho: you Idiot! in this world is kill or be kill! Knowing that one day all tribes can live in peace filled Hiawatha with DETERMINATION!
@mycaleb88 жыл бұрын
+CaptainNnif That sounds interesting. Just don't give TOO much reverence to Native culture.
@infamousempire83028 жыл бұрын
The undertale is strong with this one.
@kalvincastro90427 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately Tadodaho may have been right once English settlers arrived.
@mycaleb87 жыл бұрын
***** You're right. War would have certainly stopped the plagues that killed most Native Americans. (facepalm)
@kalvincastro90427 жыл бұрын
Cabbadath B Back again with the plagues, I see? Don't tell me that things could not of turned out very differently if instead of having peace, they ordered a massive surprise attack on the settlers, wiping them out and deterring further colonization.
@grobanlover2925 жыл бұрын
I remember learning about this in Elementary school, growing up in NY. I wish I had learned more, this sounds like an amazing group of people.
@Darasilverdragon8 жыл бұрын
This is the sort of story that brings tears of joy to my eyes. To see people uniting across nation, gender, and ideology to embrace happiness and reject hatred... It really is a thing of beauty. I don't know how closely this parable mirrors the actual events, but this is the way I will keep it in my heart, to remember at all times that there was at least once when the love of mankind did not falter
@nicholasneyhart3963 жыл бұрын
These madlads had land from the St. Lawrence river in the north to the highlands of central Pennsylvania in the South and from the Delaware river in the east to Michigan's lower peninsula to the west. They controlled basically all of the cold mountainous midlands of the east coast.
@soulstudiosmusic8 жыл бұрын
Peacemaker says, "You have colored beads... I like your style." Awesome episode.
@hearts4satoru68710 ай бұрын
my teacher made a worksheet that’s being graded as a quiz based off of this video 😭 love the video tho!!
@extrahistory10 ай бұрын
Amazing!!! 😱
@raphaelhemery1528 жыл бұрын
As a descendant of the Haudenosaunee, I am honored and thrilled that you guys are talking about my ancestors ! I actually didn't study their story, I only know bits and pieces of it, you are teaching me my heritage. I didn't think it was possible for my respect of you to rise this high and yet to continue rising.
@Alasdair37448 Жыл бұрын
The wisdom of the first peoples is truly stunning most modern nations could still stand to learn from this wisdom.
@jaredjensen14188 жыл бұрын
This is incredibly interesting, and I've never heard about this portion of history. Thanks for choosing this!
@RomeoCo8 жыл бұрын
I can't say I ever expected you all to do an episode on Hiawatha & the Peace Maker.
@hagamapama8 жыл бұрын
Don't forget Jigonseseh. She's going to prove to be important.
@RomeoCo8 жыл бұрын
Indeed she will. :) I just know the story by the name Hiawatha and the Peace Maker.
@darthbob258 жыл бұрын
After seeing them do the South Sees bubble and then do two WWII videos [one about the EASTERN front (OMG its like they don't even know Germany was defeated because 'murica just rode in on a white horse and saved the day!) and the other about the significance of strategic resources]. I don't think I can be surprised anymore.
@donnovannash27095 жыл бұрын
Great video! My students enjoyed it and learned a lot in the process!
@eudoraeliason12438 жыл бұрын
As someone who grew up near Hiawatha Island, I want to thank you for giving something near and dear to my heart this attention, and helping me to understand the island's namesake.
@Chirpysemperboy8 жыл бұрын
Well, if a guy just wants to make war. Give him NO ONE to fight against.
@lawlerzwtf8 жыл бұрын
9:22 "Ohana means family. Family means "no one gets left behind." - Lilo & Stitch
@WilliamSlayer6 жыл бұрын
What a fantastic bit of history that I had never known! I lived in the New England and New York area for 20 years, and never had a single history teacher come close to explaining the formation of the Iroquois Nation in such detail, let alone in such a concise and entertaining manner! Kudos to you Extra Credits team!
@OblivionofPathos8 жыл бұрын
I have seriously binge watched this series in the span of three days. Never stop doing these. These are amazing! If I was an art history, or just plan history teacher I would so take time to show any of these to my students, but seriously how amazing has KZbin become? For what was once one of the most boring classes in school we know push away free time to actively watch?
@ninjatakes43218 жыл бұрын
If only they had another 500 years like everyone else did, and maybe they could've made a real nation out of themselves.
@mr.stargazer98358 жыл бұрын
They did make a nation then went on the warpath genocide was a comment tactic they employed.
@YourTypicalMental8 жыл бұрын
And because they had no domesticated farming animals, that made them even more susceptible to old worlds diseases when the Europeans chanced upon them.
@ninjatakes43218 жыл бұрын
Yeah, and it's obvious to see why they were so late too, being a result of them traveling much longer than any other human civilization.
@Gnomelord08 жыл бұрын
well they also lacked domesticated animals, they did have less time than most, but without animals there is a cap to accomplishments
@ninjatakes43218 жыл бұрын
Ezekiel De La Croix which brings up an even better point about the native Americans, if a civilization doesn't find a need, they wont find a way. Simply put they didn't need farms, metals or money so they never wasted time making them, until it would've been too late. Same with china and such. The reason the greeks and romans were so successful is that they had the resources, and just happened to need them in the climate they were in.
@kevorkyacoubian5 жыл бұрын
I miss this narrator
@virgoolokun30887 жыл бұрын
Gentle-dudes, your vids are "A"-mazing. Thank you and kindly, keep it up! ✌🏾
@Bussy1016 ай бұрын
Our teacher made us watch this and it was the most interesting class I have ever had.
@Hailstormful8 жыл бұрын
"So, hey... War is kinda bad, all this death and chaos makes living somewhat unpleasant... How 'bout we organize some laws to bring peace to our homes, and talk our neighbours into following so... yeah, even the dickheads..." Who's the civilized continent now huh?
@Taospark8 жыл бұрын
When the Europeans came, the Iroquois had no problem playing the same game. They absorbed new tribes and made war expanding their territory from Albany all the way to Detroit. In the end, they weren't undone by disease so much as a split between the member tribes on who to side with during the American Revolution.
@toddcrane43188 жыл бұрын
+Plowbeast yeah as shown in AC3
@headhunter19458 жыл бұрын
Undone by a split? The native Americans never really stood a chance against Europeans. The Europeans not only developed the modern weapons the natives were just learning to use, but also had centuries to develop military methods, drills, etc, that went hand in hand with the new weaponry, one influencing the other. In addition, they had a far more specialized civilization, much greater understanding of science, more efficient methods of production, which leaves more manpower, greater reserves of ammo and better logistics, and so on. Not to disparage any accomplishments or bravery of the native Americans, but... they never really stood a chance.
@tabinekoman8 жыл бұрын
Then the nation become big, greed return, war comes.
@Taospark8 жыл бұрын
GreyWolfLeaderTW It depends where. The hardest hit by disease were right on the Atlantic seaboard in North America, the Caribbean, and the initial Spanish landings. Tribes further inland were affected but not as much such as the Iroquois while even more insulated tribes west of the Mississippi were affected even less. It's for that reason that some Iroquois tribes survived and many of the Western tribes did at least in number even if they are not thriving by internal measures.
@fortunemichael50978 жыл бұрын
Theodora...suleimon...Hiawatha don't know if it's extra history or Civ 5
@karfsma7788 жыл бұрын
Next up, Dido, and the foundation of Carthage.
@gchatz64808 жыл бұрын
easy, if you have not been nuked by ganhdi then its not Civ5 xD
@Necroskull3888 жыл бұрын
I mean... You know what civ is based on, right?
@jacobm82428 жыл бұрын
Dude I love how hand in hand civ 5 goes with World History classes. I felt like I learned so much from it when I covered the material in school that I was playing at home
@seiban84558 жыл бұрын
I got that feeling more from EU4 and the Total War games, civ 5 feels like historical fanfiction... Not to discredit the game in any way, civ 5 is great, but Gandhi just nuked the shit out of Dido...
@KK-gl5cq3 жыл бұрын
As a native American I love that you are telling people about this history
@bigshawn19727 жыл бұрын
I'm loving what you guys are doing! Please never stop spreading this knowledge! I'd never even heard of Hiawatha before this!
@Nerddough8 жыл бұрын
i love this. Im ashamed about how little I know of native american history
@AnarchyApple8 жыл бұрын
Brought to you by the best civilization in Civ V.
@dale69478 жыл бұрын
cmon! Venice is waaaay better!
@AlperTheWizard8 жыл бұрын
+Dale Ghandi :^)
@dasgroea22178 жыл бұрын
IMPI IMPI IMPI IMPI IMPI
@areskrieger58908 жыл бұрын
Babylon is probably the best civ in civ 5 due to the science ramping but to each there own
@dale69478 жыл бұрын
ummm.... It's a joke. Venice and Iroquois are terrible.
@genus5772 жыл бұрын
As a Canadian, I love hearing stories about these people who helped build our country so much
@thevaliant83698 жыл бұрын
Holy sweet merry mother of Joseph, thank you for making this guys!
@Koellenburg6 жыл бұрын
9:25 .. Hiawatha always had a Plan. .. oh w8 that was Bismarck ^^ .. but Hiawatha might always had one too. :)
@totorago6 жыл бұрын
Did you know Mohawk is a name that was given to that tribe by their ennemies? Mohawk means cannibal. Their real name is Kanien'kehá:ka.
@TasufinAm-su13.5 жыл бұрын
Your comment interest me. Could you share more, or reference me to someone who may know more?
@timhotz85327 ай бұрын
I’ve heard that the Europeans did that with pretty much all the tribes. They named them what their enemies called them.
@DanAlom8 жыл бұрын
"In a family no one is beyond saving." is the most beautiful thought about family I ever heard.
@ZomeaterWWZ8 жыл бұрын
history channel should support this channel
@BadgerPride898 жыл бұрын
history channel doesn't really do history anymore, tho (shame)
@ZomeaterWWZ8 жыл бұрын
^
@lukecapper95768 жыл бұрын
Theyd probably fill it with stuff about aliens and pawn shops.
@PitLord7778 жыл бұрын
Not enough aliens in it.
@ZomeaterWWZ8 жыл бұрын
these guys get it. disappoint history
@Art16118 жыл бұрын
When I read Hiawatha as the title, I remembered: By the shores of Gitche Gumee, By the shining Big-Sea-Water, Stood the wigwam of Nokomis, Daughter of the Moon, Nokomis. Dark behind it rose the forest, Rose the black and gloomy pine-trees, Rose the firs with cones upon them; Bright before it beat the water, Beat the clear and sunny water, Beat the shining Big-Sea-Water.
@marcnassif28226 жыл бұрын
Hiawatha had a plan Hiawatha *ALWAYS* has a plan
@aaron2718w8 жыл бұрын
this is actually really intetsting for me to listen to because I'm actually from upstate New York and have heard all these names but never the story. Thanks extra crew for teaching me about my local history!
@chaosspork8 жыл бұрын
Thank you guys so much for posting this! I love learning about the histories and cultures of the First Nations, so this is incredibly interesting to me! Plus, I especially love seeing less well known aspects of history covered on Extra Credits. I love how you emphasized how the Great Law of Peace had an influence on the US Constitution and how it, and the Haudenosaunee, are still around today.
@rayspencer50256 жыл бұрын
One small, but important correction, Iroquois (like very nearly all "Natives" everywhere) did not believe in a "Creator God" until their culture was contaminated by European Christians. The Great Law was created long before any European Christian came to the New World.
@gurusmurf59215 жыл бұрын
Some did, just not the christian one. www.native-languages.org/creator.htm
@gourmand36 жыл бұрын
Could you do one about the Mayans, Aztecs and/or Incas?
@fragolegirl20025 жыл бұрын
Romar Paqueo they did Incas
@justinnnnnn56764 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't call the Aztecs peaceful.
@LanMandragon17203 жыл бұрын
@@justinnnnnn5676 Neither were the Inca empires don't just spring up. The Mayans also had periods of warfare city state vs city state.
@jadenramalho25348 жыл бұрын
"in a family, no one was beyond saving." that made me tear up, beautiful job
@thetruerift8 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this guys (and DomiNations), it is wonderful to see some First Nations history.
@DrunkbandPresents8 жыл бұрын
people whom feed from the same stew pot, share kinship...words to live by
@internetalias16138 жыл бұрын
+DrunkbandPresents If only the Freys heard that saying.
@DrunkbandPresents8 жыл бұрын
clearly we need to make this happen, Estus Soup for all who need/want it for whom am i to judge the will of the hungry
@Meloncov8 жыл бұрын
The Freys had heard that saying, or something equivalent, which was the reason the Starks let their guard down. The Freys broke not just their alliance, but the hospitality rules that are fundamental to Westerosi morality.
@internetalias16138 жыл бұрын
Kevin Baker Yes I know of the 'bread and salt' rule which was mentioned multiple times throughout the book but I just felt making a quick joke on it.
@Dyp1008 жыл бұрын
Cool to see some Native American history. It rarely gets explored in most series, sadly.
@AbdullaLima8 жыл бұрын
Incredible episode, I just wish it would be longer, but I'll take what I can get. I love learning more about Native American history and culture, so I hope you guys can do other episodes about this topic in future. If anyone knows about other KZbin videos about this subject or any TV series like "500 Nations" please let me know.
@carrotmom76315 жыл бұрын
We used your video for class and everyone was yelling "SUBSRIBE TO HIM" and I was the only one there like "I did 2 years ago" because I suggested you to our teacher
@HxH2011DRA8 жыл бұрын
"If you like their system so much go live with them!" The more things change XD
@DragoniteSpam8 жыл бұрын
I've commented this before and I'll do it again: why may we not learn about this branch of history in school? It's interesting, it's different, and we can honestly probably learn more from it than whatever what's-his-face James Taylor or Millard Fillmore did.
@marasito7263 жыл бұрын
I love north American history! Thank you for this video, your team is truly inspiring!
@yaumelepire63108 жыл бұрын
I learned the base of this in school, I live in Quebec. In Canada education is handled by the provincial government, so I don't know if the other provinces also tell about it. Of course, not as in depth as here, but we were thought that, predating the colonisation of our homeland, the Iroquois nations banded together because " A hundred arrows tied together are stronger than any single arrow ". In our History though, they tend to come off as territorial and isolasionist. When we tried to establish the settlement of Ville-Marie ( Montréal today ) they attacked it relentlessly, killing hundreds. It was supposed to only be a trading outpost and catholic mission, but it always required a French army regiment to defend it from raids. The Algonquians and Inuit were so much more friendly to our ancestor. These days, it's still Mohawk and Iroquois reservations that cause most political problem linked to the native people.
@philipmorris17848 жыл бұрын
So so far on Extra history we've had Hiawatha of the Iroquois, Shaka of the Zulu, Suleiman the Magnificent, Samurai oda nobunaga and Justinian of Byzantium. Does this mean we're eventually going to cover all the Civilization Five leaders?
@jacksonbowns10878 жыл бұрын
If that's the case, I'm hoping they delve into ancient Egyptian history, since I know next to nothing about it.
@fragolegirl20025 жыл бұрын
Great video channel 👍🏽
@snoproblem2 жыл бұрын
The reason I clicked on this was because I'm currently playing Hiawatha in Civ 5. The 'Longhouse' buff is awesome. 🙂 BTW, it's Empress Theodora for Byzantium in Civ 5.
@robertli36007 жыл бұрын
Wow. Extra history goes more in depth with the Iroquois than my school. ( I live in canada so we spend about 2 years in elementary and one in high school again so you would of think that I know a lot of the iroquois but no)
@samwolfenstein52398 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised by how awesome that history is. I've only heard vaguely of the Iroquois confederacy, and had a light knowledge. This puts it in a whole new perspective.
@afterschoolproductions51324 жыл бұрын
The train called the Hiawatha f7 is one of my favorite and I'm glad to hear about it's namesake
@KokiriKidLink8 жыл бұрын
Canadian History!!! Thanks Extra Credits!
@XavianBrightly8 жыл бұрын
more like New York history bro.
@HxH2011DRA8 жыл бұрын
Ha! Nope
@kimarous8 жыл бұрын
Well, "Canadian namesake" history, then. "Canada" comes from a misunderstanding of the word "Kanata", meaning "viilage/settlement".
@fulgrimtheilluminator23928 жыл бұрын
The Native American tribes were around before Canada.. The Mohawk territory ranged north to the St. Lawrence River, southern Quebec and eastern Ontario... So Canada.
@ashwin_ragu8 жыл бұрын
Current borders didn't exist and as such this history encompasses both Canada and the USA.
@slapmyhand72677 жыл бұрын
2:30 But how did that tragic accident happe- Walpole. It was Walpole.
@davehoffman46595 жыл бұрын
Slap my Hand! It's always Walpole. Also, **slap**
@luv_estherrr3 жыл бұрын
What’s that?
@maryamam42048 жыл бұрын
About Time You Guys did an episode about Native America. Luv This Channel.
@jimdaflynn8 жыл бұрын
super cool that your doing a piece on Native Americans. Ever time I here about this section of history I'm intrigued, but always struggle to find more information. Keep up the good work.
@ScrapMetalPanda8 жыл бұрын
YEEESSS, never thought id see a native being talked about on here lol we dont get much exposure
@TheThemutedude8 жыл бұрын
Wow they were so enlightened! The sad part is that by listening to all this, I get the impression that the very reason why Native American technology stagnated for so long was because of this 'lasting peace' and so when the Europeans came they were no match. Such a terrible end for so great a human achievement
@TheThemutedude8 жыл бұрын
+Glenssuos Extra thanks, I am interested in this topic
@katex26778 жыл бұрын
Well, I wouldn't put it to their state of peace to them being conquered. I would blame it on their geographical position. In their area they had no domesticated animals which meant they could not build up tolerance fur diseases that came from animals, as well as them being isolated from the rest of the world, meaning that developments like gun powder and steel weapons and armor could not be obtained.
@VintageLJ8 жыл бұрын
War was quite common, as well as human sacrifices and small genocides, depending on whereabouts in America you look. I'm not smart enough to know the real reason why they couldn't/didn't develop better technology on the scale of their European neighbours, but it certainly was not the fault of a lack of war.
@gurusmurf59215 жыл бұрын
Necessity is the mother of invention and they felt like they had everything they needed.
@cadenvanvalkenburg67182 жыл бұрын
@@VintageLJ competition. Europe is tiny, and filled with many nations. They never had enough resources, and so developed to gain an edge. Meanwhile, North America had many resources. There was enough for all, and so they did not need to develop as fast as Europe did. Furthermore, almost all of Europe is linked to water and could trade and learn from most of the world.
@brockmckelvey73278 жыл бұрын
This is so beautiful and happy. Unlike almost every single other Extra History series, this one seems to be happy endings for almost everyone. I love it so much!
@keiyakins8 жыл бұрын
Oh don't worry, eventually a plague devistates the civilization and European colonists sweep up the rest. That won't be for quite some time though.
@Alexaflohr8 жыл бұрын
I'm so glad you guys decided to cover this. An awesome look into real Native American history.
@TheSlayerN8 жыл бұрын
I don't understand the infighting about "oral history". There's value in teaching and analyzing everything from Greek myths to cave paintings. Why not derive what we can from Indian tribal stories to make educated guesses as to the gaps in our own history? It's obviously nowhere near as useful as an actual historical record, but it's what we have to work with.
@robertmerrill89183 жыл бұрын
As someone from Oneida (not the tribe the county) this means a lot to, the tribes got kinda messed up and there story’s need to be told!
@wanderingursa81848 жыл бұрын
Native american history is often so overlooked, thank EC. I am learning a lot about a culture I had never really thought to immerse myself in, I think that's about to change though.
@joelgraves93928 жыл бұрын
I'm so excited about this! I live in upstate ny, so I'm happy you guys are covering something local to me.
@Freekymoho8 жыл бұрын
Tadedahao Redemption arc incoming? yes? no?
@arthurhill81858 жыл бұрын
Could you give an explanation of what it means for a tribe to be the little brother of another tribe?
@akrybion8 жыл бұрын
I guess more or less the same roots, maybe close trade relations, a interwoven culture and so on.
@WannabeCanadianDev8 жыл бұрын
Probably like a Cadet branch to a noble family but for a larger unit, like a clan.
@smygskytt17128 жыл бұрын
Might it be similar to ancient Greek colonies, and how they always had a mother city?
@davidkelly42108 жыл бұрын
Sort of like how the US and Canada are separate nations but largely a single people ethnically and culturally. These tribes were likewise independent but related. In truth, they were ALL a single people but lacked the communications and infrastructure to maintain a single state (until the Confederacy).
@johnalexander6518 жыл бұрын
Canada isn't U.S's Vassal or little brother more like an example of a modern day Vassal would be the America and Guam.
@alexandrasquarizi87616 жыл бұрын
THE BEST OF A SERIES OF EXCELLENT VIDEOS. CONGRATULATIONS AND THANK YOU!
@genesis_ink5 жыл бұрын
As an Iroquois I am very happy that someone made a video of our history