HiBrew H10 Plus Review - PID and Solenoid with Accessories for $400.

[@TomsCoffeeCorner]

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[@theodorospapadopoulos1030]

Hey mister tom Can you tell me what about Ariete 1313 Thnx

[@DamWat987]

Hi thank you for your video, looks like code doesn’t work

[@cthulpiss]

it seems that your code expired, it there a chance for a new one?

[@grasssoil]

Just got mine yesterday. Pretty fun and simple machine to use. Like the machine colour so much.

[@jazzeppelin]

I brought a hibrew 10B for approximately 127€ and it works great. It has a 51mm portafilter that is enough for me. I made my double spout prota filter open basket and I’m satisfied with that. I don’t know why you should by a 400€ machine that does the same thing and take more space on you kitchen sink.

[@bnktopa]

Depends. A $10 000 machine will do the same thing fundamentally, heating water and pushing it through the coffee. Could be better stability with the pressure and/or the temperature, i don't know. But certainly I don't believe they wouls just make it 58mm and add 250€ go the price.

[@peterkapunkt6783]

I recently bought the H10A after your (and Lance's) review. A couple of thoughts. I got it for 180€, shipped from within the EU, so no extra fees and an address where you could return it to. I knew the H10plus exists and that's a bit better. But I can't find it within the EU and the cheapest option is 320€ from aliexpress. That's clearly not worth it. I only owned a bean to cup before amd it took me a while to get decent espresso out of the H10a. Mostly because I only had older beans at home. I bought Illy beans which immediately improved the output. I think I can live without the 3 way valve, but it would be nice to have. It sucks a bit, that the flow doesn't stop when turning it off. But that isn't worth almost twice the price. The steam knob is a bit flimsy, but it seems they haven't improved it and just added another piece to it. There is also a (price) point where I'd rather get a gaggia or delonghi, simply because of after sales service. I can live with a 180€ investment breaking after a few years. 300+€ is going to be a difficult purchase of a product without any brand history or service options in my region. At least for me.

[@ExLwon]

where did you get it?

[@peterkapunkt6783]

​@@ExLwonSome place called geekbuying. It arrived within a few days. It's still a Chinese platform though, and outside of paying via PayPal and being able to dispute any immediate shipment issues, I wouldn't place high trust into them solving later issues.

[@peterkapunkt6783]

​@@ExLwonI replied but ot looks it got deleted even though I didn't use a URL. You're of on your own I am afraid.

[@tonygibbons5]

Peter...how much does it continue to run after stopping the shot?

[@peterkapunkt6783]

​@@tonygibbons5Quite a bit, but pretty slow. Not going to lie, it's a bit difficult to hit the exact dose, but it's doable. I press the button a few seconds earlier and then quickly take the cup out. It also helps to immediately release some pressure via the steam wand. Not quite sure what method I'll be using long term. But looking at other cheap machines, or even 400-500€ machines, they all appear to have various flaws (like horrendous drip tray and water tank designs, no temperature control, etc.)

[@mindaugasrimselis9378]

yes,pcb should be in some box or covered with glue. In my opinion is too high. It is very nice that there are so many accessories. For my opinion,the absence of water sensor is not a minus,i think that is a plus-the less electronics,the fewr failures in the future

[@stefanskeIIen]

You are a good reviewer and my go-to for when it comes to espresso machines reviews. I’d love to see a review on the updated Delonghi La Specialista Maestro EC9885M. If you can get your hands on one, it’d be awesome.

[@TomsCoffeeCorner]

Thanks so much! That's an expensive machine, so I don't know when and if it will be in the cards...we'll see. Cheers!

[@davidcarlin3850]

I’ve owned this for a few weeks now. Just bought a bottomless portafilter now looking for good beans

[@TomJones-tx7pb]

Nice review. As for the shot cup, I use 2 shorter cups with a dual spout and it buys me just enough space to fit a thin scale.

[@leafknewbetter]

Had OG model and sent it back. It was good but not great. The main reason I returned it was it doesn’t heat the brew group or portafilter when you power it on. You have to run quite a bit of water to get the group and portafilter mildly warm. That’s my big beef with it or any machine that is thermobloxk only.

[@TomsCoffeeCorner]

@@leafknewbetter I can agree with that. Cheers!

[@sudokillall]

Well if you set your single shot the lowest mL you can run it once when you power it on (and it gets to temp) and another time right before you're ready to put your coffee ground in. Never had issues or I just have never had a good espresso from this machine, I can't tell

[@malygosmozart]

what about the little h10b? it seems a smaller version of the h10a

[@corE452]

Its the same as the h10a just with a 51mm portafilter

[@malygosmozart]

@corE452 cool man! Thank you very much!!

[@alberts3129]

Thank you very much for the review. I’m debating whether to buy the HiBrew H10 Plus, the Turin Legato (V2), or the Gemilai CRM3006 (Cecotec Baristeo Intima), which I can’t find much information about but is currently at a very good price.

[@RakanWD]

Consider warranty, users reviews on long term usage, as well availability of accessories, and parts.

[@TomsCoffeeCorner]

Hmm, haven't tried the Gemilai yet, but I can say that the Apex is a more substantial and better built machine than the H10 series. All the ones you mentioned are Chinese, so you do also have to consider that in regards to service and spare parts. Cheers!

[@alberts3129]

For sure the best option it’s the Turin Legato but in Spain it’s hard to buy without fees and 0 garante. This is why I’m finding information about Gemilai 3006 because we have a local rebrand (Cecotec).

[@kitcraft9516]

@@alberts3129 We have the Miicoffee Apex here in Spain on Amazon, which is just another reseller of the Turin Legato, but it is only the V1.1. I remember reading on one of the forums that we might see the V2 sometime in the first quarter of 2025.

[@kc0115-d6r]

According only to the specs of the machine, Legato/Apex >> H10 plus > 3006 > H10A. HiBrew and Gemilai are both well known brand in Asia. The track records seem similar and fine: High value. You got what you pay for. (The above ranking of these four machines actually reflects the prices of them) The most important thing for you to consider is really the warranty so local rebranded 3006 seems to be a better option? Another thing to think about if you ever want to upgrade in the future. They all use 58mm portafilter but HiBrew portafilter (3 ears) is not compatible with common E61 or Gaggia's 58mm.

[@c4lintz1]

Hi sir, it doesn't have water filter in the water tank right? Is it ok? Will it affect the espresso quality?

[@christiandelia7867]

What would be the benefit for increased pressure?

[@michaelpennington5111]

Your videos are great.. could you also add to the reviews where the product is designed and made?

[@carlosho8271]

Between the gemilai CRM 3006 and the delonghi dedica es950m which is superior? Thanks

[@davidcarlin3850]

You didn’t cover pre-infusion

[@CarlosVargas-js8qz]

Good video Tom! If I had not spent $1,600 on a Lelit MaraX two years ago I’d buy this… smh 🤦🏻‍♂️ Better get a good grinder and a cheaper espresso machine

[@sasko1811]

Hi Tom, like to ask you about three way solenoid. with your bang for your buck video about Delonghi you mentioned that the machine didn't have a 3 way solenoid and for you that was beter with removing the puck from the portafilter. In this video you called the 3 way solenoid in the H10plus a plus compared to the H10a without the solenoid. Is there a other very good reason to pay like € 500 for the plus instead of well about € 190 for the H10a?

[@TomsCoffeeCorner]

@@sasko1811 Actually what I meant about the omission of the three-way solenoid for the DeLonghi is, that you have better puck knockouts. But you do have to wait 60 seconds before removing the Porta filter. I think it makes more sense to get the H10A over the plus and save the money.

[@Channel-5766]

What would be the best single boiler espresso machine for home use on the market based on its build quality and service? I know there are many, but if you had to choose one, which would it be? Good luck on your channel and see you in the next video.

[@onof9523]

Question unrelated to the movie. What do you think about Vevok Chef O20? I chose it over Kingridner K6 and I don't know if it was a good choice because it will be my first hand grinder.

[@DanielB-j3o]

I'd love a machine with a thermoblock, but I must use bottled water in it. All that water flushing to warm the brew group, and for cleaning is a big waste at the end. H10 Plus is very interesting to me, especially because I could experience pressure, along with temperature. Is there a small machine that has a warming element of some sort that would keep the porta-filter at the best temperature during the extraction?

[@Kapkamusic]

what about the taste of a shot of water ? does it taste like plastic ?

[@YGershteyn]

What about Hibrew H10B? I'm interested in your opinion about this coffee maker?

[@muhammadalialtaf7842]

Would you rather have this or the ninja luxe?

[@TomsCoffeeCorner]

Ninja.

[@Nizam-pb5kp]

If the rivellia, dinamica plus and Eletta explore were all the same price, what would you go for? I’m leaning towards rivelia as it’s compact and that’s a big plus for me, also I like to switch up between caf and decaf from both halves of the day, so the switch hoppers seem useful

[@TomsCoffeeCorner]

Honestly, I recently got the Magnifica Plus, and I find that's the best of all. Cheers!

[@Nizam-pb5kp]

Oh interesting !

[@cthulpiss]

How to enter the code for H10 Plus? I'd love to buy one.

[@yuvneetsandhu8225]

can u do an updated video on plastic free espresso machines

[@amrmostafa8128]

when it comes to the delonghi dedica compared to the h10 which one is better ? if we take into consideration the upgrades like bottomless portafilter ,manometer,dimmer mod

[@jazzeppelin]

I’m more satisfied with the hibrew 10B. It’s quicker and I like the manometer. It’s also 51 mm portafilter but delonghi doesn’t fit hibrew.

[@СашаФедько-л2е]

Hi Tom!! Appreciate for the review,very interesting,as usual😊 Did you hear anything about Elba Gentile coffee machine?! Its some Italian brand! Thanks☺️

[@Krrish85]

Are you gonna review the new Gaggia Classic E24? 😊

[@Thetache]

How does this compare to the Miicoffee Apex and the Ninja for bang per buck in your opinion? To me it looks very cheap and lightweight which bodes badly for longevity.

[@mts982]

What about chefman crema suprema??

[@sgc603]

Can it do ESE pods?

[@bnktopa]

Why would you even want that?

[@sgc603]

@ if you haven’t tried them you won’t understand. ESE pods are convenient and simply work. It’s all a matter of taste and what works for you.

[@AmsterdamSigma]

Turin Legato, MiiCoffee or Gemilai are definitely better, because they have a boiler + a thermo block for the steamer and a metal group.

[@ritwikjs]

the main thing that machine's like this come down to in longievity.

[@blamuk]

At 400$ the ninja seems like a better buy?

[@TomsCoffeeCorner]

Where is the Ninja $400?

[@AmsterdamSigma]

Ninja $499.

[@PinchOfLuck]

Why don't you ever review Jura machines? They have some amazing super automatics that simply work amazingly well. Z10 for example. Swiss company, not Italian.

[@TomsCoffeeCorner]

I'll get to Jura soon enough...just so many machines and not enough time. Cheers!

[@RakanWD]

This is the cheapest espresso machine with a 3 way selanoid valve. The catch is, you can pay few $$ and get the Bambino Plus. If this gets down sub 300$ range it will be the sweet spot.

[@TomsCoffeeCorner]

They gave me a $60 off code to pass on to viewers, which does sweeten the deal. Cheers!

[@chuckv8838]

Bambino plus in US is often $399 and the ‘auto’ steam works quite well and allows you to clean while steaming occurs

[@AmsterdamSigma]

Gemilai or MiiCoffee are definitely better, because they have a boiler + a thermo block for the steamer and a metal group. They cost around $400-500.

[@silversor34]

Only bought under 200$ 😊

[@GAMIwitheoI]

as new entry home coffee machine brand in the market, although with some new feature for the category, should have a more competitive price. Against Bambino Sage above all. Under $300 should be at least

[@TomsCoffeeCorner]

I think the original H10A was at $300. The H10 Plus now includes a solenoid, and those puppies are kind of expensive. But yes I agree that it will need to be cheaper to compete with established brands.

[@peterkapunkt6783]

​@@TomsCoffeeCorner At least in Europa you can buy the H10a for 200€, sometimes even less. With shipping from within the EU, i. e. no extra customs fees.

[@davidnarvul8003]

so for you the bambino plus is a better option ? what about the size of the porter filter ?

[@GAMIwitheoI]

@@davidnarvul8003 no I didn't say that. If Hibrew as new entry wants to compete has to start with better prices. Bambino's portafilter 54mm

[@AmsterdamSigma]

The problem with Chinese products is that their support is very bad. If the problem is the product, they will not replace the product.

[@Peechaable]

H10A Plus is definitely not worth the price difference comparing to the OG model. Which you can easily get in the 150-200€ range. I have had the OG model for a year now. Got it for 169€. For that price it makes good espresso. The solenoid valve is really not needed as you can easily control the flow with the steam knob. Looking at the Plus model, the front panel PCB is exposed the same way as in the old model. If you are not careful and let steam run over the buttons, it will corrode the electronics. Mine machine single dose button stopped working after few months. The steam shorted the contacts and since its next to the power button, it now acts as secondary power button 😀 Bummer is, I then tried increasing the pre-infusion time, thinking it would go back to 1s after hitting 10s, but no... I am stuck at 10s, because the broken button. I am currently eagerly waiting for the Meraki machine which was a steal for the VIP price.

[@tonygibbons5]

How were Hibrew to deal with for warranty?

[@Peechaable]

@@tonygibbons5 I have not bothered with warranty, since I can still operate the machine. Might open it up after I get new machine... should not be hard to fix that.

[@justinbouchard]

way overpriced is my opinion

[@TomsCoffeeCorner]

It's getting up there, yes.

[@CantonSecurity]

Love the necklace, Christ is King ✝👑