Hidden Meanings You Missed in 4 Classic Fantasy Movies

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@StoryDive
@StoryDive 5 жыл бұрын
My review of the New Dark Crystal Age of Resistance Trailer: kzbin.info/www/bejne/g6i7XniiiJ1ratU
@infjelphabasupporter8416
@infjelphabasupporter8416 4 жыл бұрын
As a 14 year old 2006's kid, I can confirm the 1980s *were* the Golden Age of Fantasy. Jim Henson, Leyend, the Neverending Story... They're masterpieces we lack nowadays.
@TaraDobbs
@TaraDobbs 7 жыл бұрын
You pointed all these aspects perfectly. These four movies are the reason I'm writing my own saga. I want to create something like these stories so much that it's kept me awake some nights and I've been working on this since I was 10. I'm on the third manuscript, up to chapter 10 since last month. I even went into a deep conversation with one of my main characters and bring out more details. I can't wait for all four novels to be published. Writing books I want to read that reminds me of my childhood is the best thing ever. :D
@TaraDobbs
@TaraDobbs 7 жыл бұрын
Oh, too bad you didn't put in Legend and Dark Crystal with your video. Maybe a second video could do? Oh, and thank you for the back history of the author of Never Ending Story. I never knew any of that. I'll never watch the movie the same way again. It's too bad the director of the movie hashed the hell out of the original concept. There was so much more to the story that was left out that the author removed himself from the production and name on the film. Maybe someday it will be redone. And, I forsaken the other two movies that were made after it. What a mistake they were.
@StoryDive
@StoryDive 7 жыл бұрын
I would love to do a follow up to this video and talk about more fantasy films. If enough people like this one I will at some point.
@soulmechanics7946
@soulmechanics7946 6 жыл бұрын
Tara Dobbs Can we see it!? I have written stories titled "Fraction" under the username trulyblue213 on DeviantArt. They are set in episodes and sadly I have not finished yet but check them out sometime! All.
@hansgruber7640
@hansgruber7640 6 жыл бұрын
Tara Dobbs what's your book call it sounds sooo cool 😵 I'm trying to writing a book too 😊
@431gemini
@431gemini 5 жыл бұрын
Tara Dobbs what will be the name of the books I will look out for it.
@kyojane9825
@kyojane9825 7 жыл бұрын
The scene that single handedly destroyed my childhood - The swamps of sadness. . . yeah you know what i mean. But apart from being heartbreaking i think it shows the idea of no matter how much you love your friends you cant follow them into the fire and more avidly that again no matter how much you love them you cant save someone who doesnt want to be saved :( i'll go cry now...
@marla591
@marla591 3 жыл бұрын
TRUTH
@Truthster772
@Truthster772 3 жыл бұрын
Same!! I still can’t watch that scene! Then the “party” scene with those fiery guys in Labyrinth was also pretty traumatic as well.
@roseyrnoseoutofit6878
@roseyrnoseoutofit6878 7 жыл бұрын
I believe you did an absolute superb job. well done.
@jaimicottrill2831
@jaimicottrill2831 7 жыл бұрын
What about Willow?
@amicableenmity9820
@amicableenmity9820 6 жыл бұрын
I wasn't born in the 80s, but I think you're right on it being the golden age for fantasy films. We did get LoTR later on, but there's nothing that can beat what came out of the 80s. They weren't afraid to make things a bit ridiculous and I love that. We're too cautious now, everything has to be grimdark.
@BrentDelong1253
@BrentDelong1253 7 жыл бұрын
You are spot on. Science fiction has always been a vehicle for reflection on much deeper social issues: Tolkien, C.S. Lewis, R.E. Howard, H.P. Lovecraft, etc. I would have to say, Blade Runner had one of the strongest impacts on me as a teenager.
@DynomitePunch
@DynomitePunch 4 жыл бұрын
i really wanna say i super appreciate that you label the scenes in the corner, thank you so much
@willlyon7129
@willlyon7129 6 жыл бұрын
Its sad that we rarely have fantasy movies these days. Also I never grew up watching The Never-ending Story, I have read the actual book. It not only has the message about creativity and imagination, but also has theme of identity, the consequences of Bastian’s wishes, and the dangers of escapism.
@sarahwade6720
@sarahwade6720 3 жыл бұрын
The book is excellent. I own a copy. Funny thing is, Michael Ende disliked the movie so much he told them to leave his name off of the credits
@opaluni
@opaluni 7 жыл бұрын
This was a really good commentary. I was born in the late 80's and really enjoyed watching these fantasy films in the 90's. I find them to be irreplaceable and golden in storytelling, perspective and dialogue. There like onions that w/ each viewing unveils a new layer or mythology. It seems that folklorish stories are being left behind in the new age and it's kinda depressing. Movies like this lit my imagination for art and writing. I can still watch Labyrinth, Legend, or even the Goonies and relate. Fanfiction for Labyrinth alone is epic!! I wish they did a reboot of Storyteller. ~sighs~ ❤ Overall the 80's had some classic movies.
@Reach1335
@Reach1335 5 жыл бұрын
At the end of Conan, he's holding both the broken sword of his father and Doom's head. Signifying that the riddle of steel isn't the weapon or flesh but the will//soul of the warrior that commands both.
@stormangelus6638
@stormangelus6638 6 жыл бұрын
I'd have loved for you to include Legend in this!
@adriangore850
@adriangore850 7 жыл бұрын
Love all these movies! Watched all of them countless times. Sad that Willow didn't get any explanation though. Why do people hate this movie so much? It was my favorite as a child.
@LadyBern
@LadyBern 6 жыл бұрын
One thing I will add about major the inspirations for Labyrinth is the book "Outside Over There" written by Maurice Sendak whose 'Where the Wild Things Are' inspired Ludo's design. That's why I love that opening scene you can see just about everything that inspires the story and th world as toys, books, and pictures in Sarah's room. What's even better is how subtle they give the backstory through her room vs just outright telling us. One thing I'm disappointed in is that people do not enjoy these films for what they are but find what's *shudders* 'problematic' about it or call them boring because they are a slow burn type of story telling, I recall reading an article from someone who grew up with Never Ending Story and loving it but reviewing it again as an adult found it boring and long and it sorta streams from us having this on demand lifestyle that's basically conditioning us to have ADHD. We just don't have the attention spans we once did. As you mentioned PB does well in showing this given the book is called the abridged version or 'just the good parts' and is said to have been originally (falsely) something like War of the Roses or GOT.
@saastol5601
@saastol5601 5 жыл бұрын
1.Legend 2. Krull 3. Willow Could you do a video about these 80s movies too please? Great video and can’t wait for Netflix’s version of The Dark Crystal age of resistance series
@bigwizzle45
@bigwizzle45 6 жыл бұрын
"As a grown ass man...." Caught me off guard. Almost spit water all over my laptop. I love your content brother. Keep up the awesomeness!
@spiritualspinster165
@spiritualspinster165 5 жыл бұрын
I loved all of the 1980's fantasy films shown here. This is when I went crazy over Mr. Bowie (RIP). I have a copy of Labyrinth and still watch it occasionally. I find I get a lot more out of those films now that I am older and wiser. I was a crazy teen then.
@kathieprater2431
@kathieprater2431 2 жыл бұрын
I loved this video! You summed up perfectly what I had a hard time explaining to my children. Thankfully, we have watched these films together and read many books together as well. Thank you for this!
@celticpoet21
@celticpoet21 6 жыл бұрын
Excellent job. every time someone mentions Joseph Campbell's hero journey and archetypes or even expresses familiarity with it, I let out a tremendous sigh of relief! I've stated it before, but you have the makings of a first class mythologist!
@GuillermoSanchez29
@GuillermoSanchez29 6 жыл бұрын
I find myself trying to explain storytelling to my children. This is a great model for sone of my favorite 80’s movies that I can use to help. Thank you
@thestraightroad305
@thestraightroad305 3 жыл бұрын
Great job. Im glad I found your channel.
@hanzohattiori1737
@hanzohattiori1737 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent points and meanings!!
@sunjoexys7251
@sunjoexys7251 4 жыл бұрын
Jennifer Connelly in 1986 was absolutely stunning!
@3v3ry1
@3v3ry1 6 жыл бұрын
Great summaries of great movies Inconceivable!
@Jjrmtv
@Jjrmtv 7 жыл бұрын
great job. The Never-ending Story is as relevant now as it was when released. I think that was the most frightening aspect. The great nothingness swallows you whole, and you are forgotten.
@FGBFGB-vt7tc
@FGBFGB-vt7tc 5 жыл бұрын
Beautiful video essay. I am a fan of The Neverending Story (the movie at first, then the book) and the second part, when Bastian enters Fantasia, is way deeper. As far as pitfalls of imagination, the City of Ancient Emperors is a terrifying one: to let your imagination so free that you lose touch with reality.
@Rebelheart1985
@Rebelheart1985 5 жыл бұрын
I'm apart of the millions of girls obsessed with David Bowie lol
@awkwardverse
@awkwardverse 3 жыл бұрын
I have a new perspective on Labyrinth now. Thank you.
@theoneonly1624
@theoneonly1624 4 жыл бұрын
Added depth in my childhood I never realized I've overlooked! Many thanks 2 new perceptions 😍😊😳
@mazukamba2573
@mazukamba2573 3 жыл бұрын
If only today people where simple to understand, but no! Today is all about me and my feelings and calling right the wrong. I totally agree with your interpretations because that’s reality. Those movies had a msg that not to many can see. Awesome work my friend.
@rexgrl3
@rexgrl3 7 жыл бұрын
I'm not a huge fan of PB except the Grandfather/son relationship...it's my favorite part. BTW you didn't analyze on of my favorites portrayed in the narrative...Legend.
@StoryDive
@StoryDive 7 жыл бұрын
If I do a part 2 of this vid I will include it for sure.
@pledgestone
@pledgestone 6 жыл бұрын
Wonderful video. Great job!
@maxcovfefe
@maxcovfefe 5 жыл бұрын
I read all 3 of these as a kid. I think you got some of the themes right. Of the 3, _The Neverending Story_ movie is the least like it's written inspiration. But I think you nailed the overall theme of the book AND the film. I also think you did really well analyzing _Labyrinth._ There's more about step parenting, etc, if you read the lit too. As for _The Princess Bride,_ there's a LOT to unpack with this one. The book is written from the POV of the little boy as an adult. He finds this book (it's a fictional book; don't bother writing in for the omitted scene; I got a long letter in response to my request saying how the lawsuit was still on-going... the fictional law suit) that his father (or grandfather?) read to him, and he's dismayed by all the POLITICS in the story. It's not a children's book at all. It's got loads of lists of things bought and sold from one country to another... So the book is the character's struggle to abridge the adventure story as HE heard it. In the film, when Fred Savage wants to skip parts, I think this is also referring to those parts of the book his father originally left out. This probably explains it a lot better: bookriot.com/2018/11/20/did-william-goldman-or-s-morgenstern-write-the-princess-bride/
@4Just1Girl
@4Just1Girl 5 жыл бұрын
The Neverending story could be the 1st film equivalent of the popular "Choose your own adventures" type of series books!!!
@kelaarin
@kelaarin 3 жыл бұрын
I would add Legend, but the Director's Cut, not the theatrical American version. It makes SO much more sense.
@marystewert8766
@marystewert8766 6 жыл бұрын
The labyrinth was the only movie me and my sister could agree on watching without trying to kill each other even now after 20 some years
@soulmechanics7946
@soulmechanics7946 6 жыл бұрын
Personally, I think video games are the most incredible media for storytelling. It allows for one to become immersed in the happening, and even shape the story into a personal experience. Although, it does eliminate the necessity to utilize personal imagination to breathe life into the depiction, many games are empty and without plot, and the Princess Bride will never be beaten by anything.
@AndrejTelisman
@AndrejTelisman 7 жыл бұрын
Movies form my youth, than was just a interesting exciting story where i did cheer for hero to save princes and merry her . Today when i look ed them , i can find answers i seek... From Conan, warrior freedom and inner deep strength, achieved after many looses and trials (selfmade man). Labirinty I didn't watch, Alice and Wizard of Oz i did watched, storn impression on never stop believe and persist to try plus you are never alone, and every ppl you meet are part of growing process of collecting wisdom. Hope , Imagination, courage and daring actions - Never ending story. While you hope and create your life story you live and fight, to live is to be creative, nothing is death of your life and ... dangerous control and depending on other ppl opinion (its bad). In end, every fairy tales leads to new knowlidge and lvl of freedom to creative and strong mind, to use iniciative and daring to overcome fear, to use knowlidge to overcome stupidity and addiction. To build Critical thinking strong independent mind. Thats a purpose of every story ever writen... read greeks myths, Grimms stories, Alice, and many classical, it was it is it will sty tool to shape human mind, symbols.
@VivianOlo
@VivianOlo 7 жыл бұрын
This is a fun video. I loved these as a kid
@taitjones6310
@taitjones6310 6 жыл бұрын
Probably too little regarding the Never-ending Story, but pretty good all in all. I hoped to see Willow among the breakdowns.
@hansgruber7640
@hansgruber7640 6 жыл бұрын
Your right about David Bowie 😍 lol
@dragonfire810
@dragonfire810 5 жыл бұрын
Top 10 Fantasy Movie Monsters
@cynicalbanter
@cynicalbanter 7 жыл бұрын
what about The Dark Crystal? O-o
@silver-spoon-fed
@silver-spoon-fed 5 жыл бұрын
FeelsBadMan no loving for the Dark Crystals. :(
@fleurserieux
@fleurserieux 5 жыл бұрын
I would like to add the movie Willow, dragon slayer, and return to oz. I loved these movies as a 🧒
@taylorcheek9587
@taylorcheek9587 7 жыл бұрын
I watched Conan the Barbarian when I was a kid, but I have no memory of anything in this video. Come to think of it, all I really remember is Conan fighting a gorilla monster. Oh, and Conan and a large black man struggling to lift a stone... wall(?). Then, of course, there's the sequel with the guy who swallows gems and the scary black warrior woman.
@justyourlocalV
@justyourlocalV 7 жыл бұрын
Those are both the same Conan movie; the second one. It seems you never watched the first, which is why you do not remember any of those parts. This is a TREMENDOUS shame, as the first is WAYYYYYYYYYYYY superior in every way. The first is a classic, with themes and stylization that remains timeless. The second is pure camp that is mostly forgettable. Do yourself a favor, and track down the first. It is amazing.
@taylorcheek9587
@taylorcheek9587 7 жыл бұрын
Those were the same movie?! Well I'll be darned. Thanks for the feedback.
@TheYafnit
@TheYafnit 7 жыл бұрын
Lol I was wondering if you were going to say "as you wish". As a 80's baby myself I was wondering do you have a list of fantastical movies like these you'd like to recommend?
@StoryDive
@StoryDive 7 жыл бұрын
Yes. My full list would be quite long and take time to write out, but off the top of my head, the classics are all the ones mentioned in this video plus: Legend Excalibur The Dark Crystal The Storyteller (A Series not a Movie) Willow The Last Unicorn Return to Oz and I would add My Neighbor Totoro, Nausicaä of the Valley of the Wind and Kiki's Delivery Service if you want to stick with the 80s, but I have to do a larger list at some point.
@TheYafnit
@TheYafnit 7 жыл бұрын
Fanation Thank you so much😘 subbed.
@meinkanal7368
@meinkanal7368 2 жыл бұрын
About the Neverending story: read the whole book. That movie only talks only about the first part. The second part is important.
@corvus9829
@corvus9829 5 жыл бұрын
I love fantasy.
@wolfman-up7dh
@wolfman-up7dh 5 жыл бұрын
Hot Take: Labyrinth is only held in such high regard because of the names attached to it.
@aaronhumes2615
@aaronhumes2615 4 жыл бұрын
The 1980s were awesome period!
@finnmaccool2665
@finnmaccool2665 6 жыл бұрын
There was a period of time from about 1975 to about 1995 when movies were the greatest. The tradition continued somewhat into the early 2000s, but starting in 2005 and after movies have just sucked.
@willlyon7129
@willlyon7129 3 жыл бұрын
Hollywood isn’t what it used to be these days.
@carissacarlson1418
@carissacarlson1418 7 жыл бұрын
Great video. I find the commentary fascinating in this. I do disagree about the Princess Bride commenting on the mentality of people not being able to handle dark subject matters in media. While I can't comment too much about a time period before I was even born, I don't think that mentality was as strong back in the 80s. Back in the 80s a lot of darker things could fly more in media, like a man getting his heart ripped out in the Temple of Doom. It wasn't really until the 90s and especially the 2000s that people started to get more squeamish about darker subject matter in media, especially after that 2004 incident which made the r rating less popular. With that even said, there are some even darker subject matter is starting to come back in cartoons like Alex Hirsch adding in the dead animal heads with blood gushing from their eyes and mouths from Gravity Falls to a lot of things in the new Voltron reboot.
@StoryDive
@StoryDive 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I'm glad you enjoyed it. I totally agree that the 80's had a lot of dark and challenging aspects in their movies and entertainment intended for kids, and it does continue to some extent today. In the commentary I was trying to illustrate what I believe William Goldman's intention with the Princess Bride story was, regardless of whether or not he was correct. He was born in 1931 so he would have experienced a time before the corporate specialization children's entertainment. Even before TV. I think when he is commenting on the stories and entertainment of the new generation he is comparing it to more traditional folk tales and fairy tales. Like the Grimms' Fairy Tales, which are quite a bit darker and more disturbing than their Disney counterparts. Not just in their inclusion of death and gore, but in the way the villain can win or the hero can suffer a horrible fate. Stuff that would be considered dark, even by the standards of 80's children's entertainment. Anyway, that's just my theory. I probably should have made all this more clear in my commentary, but I was trying not to make it too long.
@carissacarlson1418
@carissacarlson1418 7 жыл бұрын
Okay; yeah, that could be possible the more I think about it.
@BruceWayne-fj9bm
@BruceWayne-fj9bm 2 жыл бұрын
Well the best fantasy movie is undeniably Lord of the Rings and that came out in 2001 I do believe to my recollection.
@nicholewojtanowski43
@nicholewojtanowski43 3 жыл бұрын
I truly believe that Labyrinth was, and is, the greatest movie ever…Even moreso because of ths sheer magnificence that was David Bowie’s junk! It was a character in its own right and it was EVERYWHERE! 😂
@CESSKAR
@CESSKAR 7 жыл бұрын
You don't like Excalibur?
@StoryDive
@StoryDive 7 жыл бұрын
I love it. Actually, I talk about it in my video on the best King Arthurs on Film kzbin.info/www/bejne/i4XMpq2Ap7d4jqc , but I didn't get to it on this list. Maybe next time.
@0jabsroomer
@0jabsroomer 4 жыл бұрын
The Riddle of Steel is Will, that is why Thulsa Doom dies (and die from the combined power of Steel and Flesh).
@leoscarpoli1nonly
@leoscarpoli1nonly 6 жыл бұрын
Thulsa was a representation of the last of the Moors who invaded and conquered Europe and were later overturned leading to the strong hatred for black we have today, especially in Europe.
@karrieyo8739
@karrieyo8739 7 жыл бұрын
You are really sensitive. I remember with great nostalgia the Never Ending Story and I was too young to see your adult conclusions. But I sensed a great emotional pain with the nothing as I understood that people.s world might shatter. About Laberithn I knew about her journey and I was totally seduced by David BOwie, but I felt uneasy, because I felt his androgeny. Yes, even now I find him sexually attractive. Thank you. I would recommend to review fairy tales as the ones from the Grimm Brothers and the Kaidan Horror stories from Japan. I think they have a strong ingridient of sociological teachings, as they are symbolize in the monsters the true face of evil in the human soul. Thank you again, I enjoy your content. Please ,let us know more about your persona.
@msrainbowbrite
@msrainbowbrite 4 жыл бұрын
The 80s were TOTALLY the best.
@einarvolsung2202
@einarvolsung2202 4 жыл бұрын
You read to much.....can you explaine the hidden meaning of happy birthday in the Sylvester's the cat cartoon when he pulled through a tiny hole screaming no not happy birthday.
@nevik9199
@nevik9199 6 жыл бұрын
hated the neverending story when i was a kid, as an adult...i STILL HATE IT!! overrated & boring
@willlyon7129
@willlyon7129 3 жыл бұрын
This is why I much prefer the original book that it’s based on.
@damendouglaschristophermac5523
@damendouglaschristophermac5523 2 жыл бұрын
If your able to see the never ending story in the clouds hence the internet ect... Guess what you fell for there trap. Welcome to the never ending story Kinda an Ai screwed up version Look closely
@gargoyle2423
@gargoyle2423 7 жыл бұрын
Great video! Those movies were all major influences for me growing up(The Dark Crystal more than Conan), but I only wish I had realized their deeper meaning back then.
@dragonfire810
@dragonfire810 5 жыл бұрын
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