some ancient GSC context: HP on Electrics was also controversial because some people felt it wasn't realistic to get such exact DVs on a Pokémon that can't breed. I wasn't really battling at this time but these were the arguments on like Pokemasters circa 2000. HP Bug on Marowak has the nice trait of lowering Marowak's attack DV to the exact value it needs to be below 1024 after two Swords Dances and avoid wrapping around to unusable single-digit values
@marcelinebellafiore86953 жыл бұрын
I love how almost every ADV Pokémon has a valid use for HP. So funny
@nbr61163 жыл бұрын
Sounds like it used to be a pain in the butt to get whole teams with all types of HP Users set up for RSE on the GBA lol. I love it
@leskoopmann67142 жыл бұрын
swampert (and celebi) moment
@rithakc2 жыл бұрын
@@leskoopmann6714 hpflying for loom/celebi?
@bkebradley Жыл бұрын
HP being so powerful in gen 3 is a big part of why I love gen 3, it makes so many Pogies super flexible and harder to predict without seeing the full team
@mr.cauliflower3536 Жыл бұрын
@@nbr6116 I mean, if you knew how to rng manipulate (or cheat) it was no problem
@Fig_Bender3 жыл бұрын
One of my favorite things about RBY is when BKC says "one of my favorite things about RBY"
@laitentierdotcom Жыл бұрын
1:33:36 “what’s it called? hidden power was removed” spent a whole video talking about the move, then forgot what it was called lmao never change, love the vids
@jacksonsmith29553 жыл бұрын
can we just talk about how nonsensical ghost being physical is? who came up with that idea. GHOST. PHYSICAL. they literally aren't physical.
@satvikjain40883 жыл бұрын
Only move in gen 1 was lick hence
@henriquepacheco74733 жыл бұрын
@@satvikjain4088 Night Shade called. It's the one supposed to be throwing shade, not you.
@archerbias65973 жыл бұрын
Night shade is set damage
@henriquepacheco74733 жыл бұрын
@@archerbias6597 Doesn't change a *lick* of what I said! ...Get it? *Lick?* ...I'll see myself out.
@archerbias65973 жыл бұрын
@@henriquepacheco7473 no wait come back that was awesome
@FlickeringStatic3 жыл бұрын
I love how Breloom lures Swampert in ADV Breloom is awesome
@iBenjamin10002 жыл бұрын
Breloom: I am literally a grass type Swampert: I'm gonna getcha! Breloom: (HP Grass) Swampert: x_x
@leavetheglory80723 жыл бұрын
“Play in the calc, it’s good for you.”
@emmetstanevich2121 Жыл бұрын
I honestly really like how much thought goes into picking a hidden power in gen 3, and how many pokemon would *really* like to run two or more versions, but are forced to pick one. It means that there will always be something you can't cover on any given set, and some pokemon even have to choose between STAB and coverage. As much as I like this dynamic, however, it was very much a product of its time, as new threats with better and better natural coverage would appear in later generations, with hidden power simply filling in the one or two holes that weren't already filled. Sad as I am to see such an interesting move gone in gen 8, I can see that it isn't nearly as necessary (or healthy) in an environment like gen 8 as it was in earlier gens.
@yonatangale14523 жыл бұрын
I always thought it would be an interesting hypothetical of adv wo hp
@thisisaclown84973 жыл бұрын
Swampert without hp grass 😓
@catandfishfc3 жыл бұрын
Swampert goes straight to Ubers
@ShinyTillDawn3 жыл бұрын
Giga Drain Gengar: It's showtime, b−−−−es!
@santasangre9963 жыл бұрын
I think it's a good thing for adv because a lot of types lack any good attacking moves whatsoever (strongest viable grass move is leaf blade with fkn 70 base power and high crit rate.. And only Sceptile learns it lol)
@pablojams51523 жыл бұрын
And giga drain only 60 BP in adv
@Fig_Bender3 жыл бұрын
I cant thank you enough for the amount of content you've provided lately. I've been following your channels for years, always excited for the next video and in depth breakdown of the inner workings of some of the most advanced pokemon strategies mankind has ever seen. The last few months have been absolutely mind blowing, thank you for all that you do Blaze Kickin Chicken
@iBenjamin10002 жыл бұрын
is that what his name stands for?!
@tylerd12973 жыл бұрын
I hated how certain Pokemon with the stats to be good were stuck with this move as their "strongest" STAB move: Aerodactyl, Gyarados, Salamence, Scizor. It was better than nothing but those Pokemon could have been so much more impactful. Made using them on cartridge suck too
@pablojams51523 жыл бұрын
Physical special split should’ve been a thing since RBY. Gen 3 literally had different checks for if moves made contact or not, for things like rough skin, no idea why they didn’t implement the split there.
@tylerd12973 жыл бұрын
@@pablojams5152 yeah I agree I've said the same thing before. There's some weird moves that counted as contact though that shouldn't have, when I play emerald battle Factory I get Static from some moves I didn't expect to be contact. Can't remember off the top of my head though
@tylerd12973 жыл бұрын
@@pablojams5152 But I agree about the p/s split it makes taking down Blissey and Skarmory so annoying because of not having any weaknesses on their good stat. This made just about any Water type a good physical wall too, with Swampert being god-like.
@blargghkip Жыл бұрын
@@tylerd1297 grass knot (seriously, wtf?)
@GynxShinx Жыл бұрын
Flying stab😢
@scuffit3 жыл бұрын
Should have called up blunder for a cursed lando thumbnail
@clqliveson3 жыл бұрын
Still cant get over that ttar drill one
@jacksonsmith29553 жыл бұрын
@@clqliveson god that made me want to bleach my eyes
@clqliveson3 жыл бұрын
@@jacksonsmith2955 dont give me ideas
@darthtyros31423 жыл бұрын
Always enjoy BKC's hour long videos.
@fulltimeslackerii82293 жыл бұрын
Secret power should have been physical hidden power
@itsyaboychipsahoy.79893 жыл бұрын
Natural Gift should be spammable & not consume the user's berry
@quiru_dakas3 жыл бұрын
@@itsyaboychipsahoy.7989 that would be so broken
@CrushedParagon2 жыл бұрын
@@quiru_dakas how so? Giving up your item slot for a move of at most 100 power (80 prior to gen 6) doesn't seem like it'd centralize the metagame
@_lostglory2 жыл бұрын
@@CrushedParagon its like how some Genesect would run Douse Drive to gain water coverage, which it desperately needed.
@sablesalt2 жыл бұрын
@@_lostglory wait people ran one of the floppies at some point??
@beechteeth3 жыл бұрын
I love hearing your thoughts on all these impactful moves and metas. You have very nuanced takes that really consider all the factors regarding how different moves affect which Pokemon, and I feel smarter and better off for having heard your words.
@JamesJones-ts5fl3 жыл бұрын
Ah just in time for my road trip. Impeccable timing as always BKC!
@someone-cs1ix3 жыл бұрын
If HP Fairy was a thing (and hidden power was back to 70 bp and could be powered up with gems) who would run it? Imagine fairy gem hp Fairy chandelure smacking a hydreigon on the switch (since normally drei walls chandelure) that would be heat
@orlandotill46523 жыл бұрын
HP Fairy Protean Greninja
@sephikong83233 жыл бұрын
@@orlandotill4652 I hate you
@fulltimeslackerii82293 жыл бұрын
Probably bulky waters so that fighting and dark types can’t setup on them.
@harpot6783 жыл бұрын
Gen 8 Gets rid of HP to balance Dynamax, very Pog
@jacksonsmith29553 жыл бұрын
Recall that GF only even claims to care about VGC competitive, where dynamax is honestly kind of a cool mechanic positionally imo. the idea is still lame as hell, but it provides some interesting possibilities. (also imagine hp ice regieleki lmao)
@harpot6783 жыл бұрын
@@jacksonsmith2955 Imagine if any Pokemon had access to any Max move
@DantinozMC3 жыл бұрын
@@jacksonsmith2955 Agree completely. Dynamax is actually sick in VGC, it just sucks everywhere else lol.
@ishierrogamer77983 жыл бұрын
@@jacksonsmith2955 I often play VGC and most of the people I know are very happy about series 10 getting rid of Dynamax, by far the most broken generational gimmick.
@Cracky0033 жыл бұрын
@@jacksonsmith2955 except that's a blatant lie. Heavy Duty Boots are specifically for the singles game. I know what they claim, but, it's just obviously false.
@MenwithHill3 жыл бұрын
Great vid dude. Would love to see you cover spikes, cause unlike stealth rock, it seems to go wildly around in players' estimation over the gens
@torormseth3 жыл бұрын
Was abt to complain about the lack of mention of hp water rachi, but based Kevin is very thorough
@thisisaclown84973 жыл бұрын
imagine hp ground for for volcarona with boots, good thing it's gone
@jacksonsmith29553 жыл бұрын
imagine hp ice regieleki that couldn't be countered by lando and garchomp.
@furretforsmash85963 жыл бұрын
nat dex exists, its fine there
@morimementos3 жыл бұрын
@@furretforsmash8596 could be mistaken but I don’t think it’s allowed hidden power there
@ShinyTillDawn3 жыл бұрын
Generation 8 Pokémon cannot learn Hidden Power in National Dex formats. Meaning I can't put HP Fighting on Calyrex ;−;
@furretforsmash85963 жыл бұрын
@@morimementos volc has hidden power in natdex
@DantinozMC3 жыл бұрын
These are my favourite kinds of videos! Watching you explain a certain move or concept present in Pokemon is super interesting. I make games, currently creating a turn-based one, so this is just golden as something to listen to from a game-design perspective. Thank you!
@machinat3636 Жыл бұрын
I fell in love with HP in Crystal where my magneton just so happened to have HP ice, which made Claire much less of a roadblock
@RisingJericho3 жыл бұрын
I never really considered how devastating Hidden Power could be on Zapdos. I'm so used to it in later generations being a strong attacker but with low coverage options. Guess that would happen in Gen 2 where there's far less outs.
@sephikong83233 жыл бұрын
I'm still terrified by what happened once they gave it Hurricane and Weather Ball. Rain Zapdos is legit one of the hardest mons to switch into if you don't have a blob/Rock Godzilla at the ready
@henriquepacheco74732 жыл бұрын
@@sephikong8323 To be fair, that mon has essentially three perfectly accurate stab moves that complement each other quite well. And the weakest is 100 BP.
@et34t34fdf Жыл бұрын
@@sephikong8323 Zapdos should get drizzle as a new abiliity, would be... fun.
@erblecde3 жыл бұрын
BKC you've got to be the greatest history buff in mons history. Keep it up, loving it.
@screwtokaiba3 жыл бұрын
Shout out to the dumbness of GSC Hidden Power, where it was dumb enough that theres discussion around whether or not Hidden Power on Zapdos and Raikou can be legalized for the format or something
@fulltimeslackerii82293 жыл бұрын
Hidden power was one of the multiple mechanics I would point to when discussing why game freak seems to favor the special stat.
@itsyaboychipsahoy.79893 жыл бұрын
It existed before the physical/special split though?
@fulltimeslackerii82293 жыл бұрын
@@itsyaboychipsahoy.7989 but when the split did occur, there was no physical counter part introduced.
@VincentChaos923 жыл бұрын
@@fulltimeslackerii8229 They created choice band before specs, they have 120 base power moves on the phisical side with almost no drawbacks in comparison to special ones (Focus blast vs Close combat for example, even distribution of superpower vs aura sphere for example for years) and they created assault vest only to fuck special attackers more. Nah, physical has always been their main interest at least since the split by far, to this day you dont eveb have a reliable special rock attack, dark pulse and shadow ball are meager 80 moves (And they massively buffed knock off and created poltergeist for phisicals) etc
@SPZ-gv2on3 жыл бұрын
@@VincentChaos92 On the other hand, burn has no special counterpart, intimidate has no special counterpart, and there are relatively few mons with massive spdef compared to physdef. All the strong physical moves do pretty much have downsides as well, even if they are generally less important than the special move downsides. I would say they are about even, but I would lean slightly towards physical.
@chopinfanclub66723 жыл бұрын
Reading this comment thread made me realize both stats are equal and u guys r high
@iBenjamin10002 жыл бұрын
eyes glinting with excitement-"Hello there 90 minute video on the history of hidden power!"
@iBenjamin10002 жыл бұрын
gonna keep a few running notes on the types of HP I hear are most important in each format. gen 2-ice (zapdos) water (raikou), bug (foretress and scizor) fire (also foretress) flying (machamp) electric (cloyster) and I think I heard a few mentions about HP Ghost. gen 3-flying (aerodactyl and salamence for stab) fighting (potential use by aerodactyl, this is a type that I thought might not have any use due to how many good fighting attacks there are in more recent generations, as well as use by jirachi and porygon2, basically all of them to hit T tar) grass (celebi, as well as a counter to swampert) bug (dugtrio and flygon) rock (gyarados, regirock, possibly as a more accurate option over rock slide, but I kind of figured rock wasn't used that much since there's almost always been stronger rock attacks like rock slide) fire (lots of mentions to answer skarmory and forretress) ground (skarmory) steel (some snorlax sets to hit or not be walled by certain opponents, but it's obvious that this is a very common application, another type I doubted would have much use) and it seems like the most used types were bug ghost grass and fire.
@iBenjamin10002 жыл бұрын
gen 4-much less use of HP since so many more moves were introduced in gen 4, plus the split which meant many critters could get better moves or had to resort to a different hp type. ice and grass(has a few mentions) electric (rare use against gyarados) ground (jirachi) and that's it! gen 5-ice ice baby baby (landorus vs gliscor and other landorus, also used by forretress and alakazam) grass (heatran to hit the usual rain suspects). flying (keldeo), ghost (slowbro and slowking). a few mentions of HP Fire, but it's so cold up here with all these pokemon using Hidden Power Ice. gen 6-grass (charizard x?) fire (diancie, vs steel types) more ice, a reference to rock (but again, stone edge exists for most things trying to hit flying types) gen 7-ice and electric (amusing but uncommon applications for mega zard) fire (ferrothorn vs kartana) grass and fire (greninja) POISON (keldeo for countering tapu bulu and fini. despite keldeo not being very common, this was more than I expected. poison isn't a type that you really need to attack with even on poison types, and if you needed a poison attack for fairies, there's sludge bomb and poison jab)
@iBenjamin10002 жыл бұрын
well that was an incredibly satisfying summary of what types of hidden power were used across different metas. I can see that gen 2 and 3 were where the most pokemon had the use for the move, gen 3 especially being the one where the greatest variety of types were viable, partially due to the quirks of physical/special and also for lack of certain moves. but overall, just a few types that were never mentioned, likely for not having any use. hp normal and fairy are impossible, the move itself is technically a normal type and it's not like it can even hit anything supereffective, and I guess hp fairy isn't possible either, but there's several fairy moves for mostly fairy stab anyway. hp dragon would be silly, there's oodles of stronger dragon attacks and that's what hp ice is for. the only other 3 were poison dark and psychic. poison had that one apparent use by keldeo, but still not very useful. I thought hp dark might have a use but I guess that's what hp ghost is for. and hp psychic... well, what kind of pokemon could possibly need psychic coverage, that couldn't learn psychic?
@BKCplaysPokemon2 жыл бұрын
milotic sometimes uses hp psychic in dpp uu for toxicroak :)
@iBenjamin10002 жыл бұрын
hey man thanks for the reply! I was just having a good time documenting what types of hp were used and finding which types were less used or not used at all. so hearing about a use case for one of those remaining types was super helpful.
@oopsalldeoxys50603 жыл бұрын
They should have kept the physical/special split only for hidden power
@A2ZOMG2 жыл бұрын
I cannot fully express how glad I am Gen 8 dropped Hidden Power. It was so fucking toxic to check/counter if you weren't running Blissey/Chansey to universally sponge it, and then Gen 5 had Secret Sword Keldeo who not only trivialized Blissey, but then could run various HPs to troll Celebi/bulky water checks. Unbelievable that mon wasn't banned to Ubers all things considered. Like I don't have a problem with mons having inherently good type coverage. But getting super effective coverage of choice (especially at low opportunity cost), there's almost no actual safe way to scout that without statchecking it.
@darrenmcfadden67443 жыл бұрын
The classic BKC sirens in the background
@Interiorcrocodilealigator108383 жыл бұрын
Gen 8 being the first gen that I’ve been around for since the beginning. Started playing smogon every now and then on the last few months of gen 7, and playing w/ hidden power feels like cheating, especially slapping HP fire on magnezone and messing around W/ teams restricted to mons Ash caught+cheater juice just to play them in their final form+megas. I be one shotting landos on the switch w/ HP ice pikachu
@ashlynwoods84643 жыл бұрын
the "obvious" thing you missed in gen 7 was ferrothorn occasionally running hp fire for kartana :) (its not obvious at all)
@Lichtkrieger133 жыл бұрын
ADV - we have HP Bug for Celebi and HP Grass for Swampert - the rest is niche
@oopsalldeoxys50603 жыл бұрын
Hp flying for flying types and hp ghost for fighting types
@solomonpnq3 жыл бұрын
HP having some physical implications would be cool: imagine seeing a Kyurem Black HP Ground a Heatran and OHKO'ing it(Man, I love physical HPs).
@shadowtitanx39623 жыл бұрын
You mean HP Ground?
@solomonpnq3 жыл бұрын
@@shadowtitanx3962 ye whoops
@ShinyTillDawn3 жыл бұрын
You had the power to hide this video from us until now!
@thugtearsofficial13373 жыл бұрын
top tier thumbnail
@VideoGameManiac83 жыл бұрын
I wish there was a physical version of hidden power
@ShinyTillDawn3 жыл бұрын
6:02 I thought Hidden Power was banned on the legendary Electrics because in an actual game, it was hard to get the actual Hidden Power you wanted, unless you soft reseted or something.
@satvikjain40883 жыл бұрын
It was for a certain time but then it got unbanned
@ShinyTillDawn3 жыл бұрын
@ They likely banned it whenever people would competitively battle on Tournaments that were not battle simulators, but instead link battles with real hardware. It was not easy to get max stats on everything, let alone the right IVs for the correct Hidden Power, with solely the physical cartridge itself.
@dream_weaver620710 ай бұрын
I love how everything in Adv just smacks celebi because why not
@shadowsnake943 жыл бұрын
I'm a certified HPH (Hidden Power Hater). Join your local HPH Society today, and if your community doesn't have one, start one! We need to #KeepHiddenPowerOutOfGen9
@KaiOcean4083 жыл бұрын
I started in gen 4 so I could never remember what types used to be special when I played Pokémon Stadium or Crystal lol. Thanks for that fact :)
@et34t34fdf3 жыл бұрын
It makes the game more interesting, but at the same time, it was kinda unfair that the ground and ground/rock types went from countering them to being countered themselves.
@wumbology723 жыл бұрын
As sad as I am pursuit was removed from gen 8, I am glad hidden power is gone. There is no more being surprised by a random hidden power. Also no scenarios where a mon that is balanced by lack of coverage can get around that. Sure, my boy jolteon is pu without hp ice, but I think volcarona and regieleki would be banned with hidden power.
@SPZ-gv2on3 жыл бұрын
Probably. Volc is only fine in nat dex because of the strong priority users, tapu fini, and general fast offensive mons that don't let it set up. Eleki would be overcentralizing for sure, forcing volt absorb mons or things like spdef hippo on every team.
@starduststriker87922 жыл бұрын
ngl i think pursuit being removed was probably just as healthy for the game as hidden power, psychics and ghosts finally have room to breathe
@RediteTheGemBoy2 жыл бұрын
How do you look at previous generations?
@greatobikili48583 жыл бұрын
Which is more a legend hidden power or pursuit let me know which you guys pick I think Hidden power.
@MenwithHill3 жыл бұрын
Hidden power has absolutely been more important.
@DantinozMC3 жыл бұрын
@@MenwithHill I would also say HP, however I think a case can actually be made for Pursuit, especially in gen 3-5 where it plays such a massive role.
@lakeofficial4133 жыл бұрын
Congrats BKC on 15k subs!!! Kid, subscribers kid? More like disciples. God bless… (hunkers down and plays Crystal)
@aklirothcranixvi9442 жыл бұрын
HP Ghost Rayquaza and Groudon ♥️ It looks and feels sooo uncanny because their best fitting HP moves doesn't benefit from stab. But the fact it allows them to Take out Mewtwo, Lugia the Twins and Deoxys just speaks volumes how important it was.
@awkwardcultism Жыл бұрын
"Cloy-on-Cloy matchup" sounds like a euphemism for tribadism.
@pokeinator7834 Жыл бұрын
Like I didn’t care about hp, until I used pokemon with no coverage but really strong like xurxitree, blastoise, empoleon etc and now I reallY want it back lol
@whydoiexist21803 жыл бұрын
i wonder how adv would be without hp swampert would msot likely be the top 2 or possibly even 1
@largenaq29353 жыл бұрын
Ground types can actually switch in on fast electrics now that HP is gone. Truly a revelation
@yech34613 жыл бұрын
Day 2 of asking BKC for history of Toxic
@fulltimeslackerii82293 жыл бұрын
He pretty much does in his passive damage video
@lucys_videos3 жыл бұрын
you spoil us BKC
@oopsalldeoxys50603 жыл бұрын
All y'all talking about how HP should be back, what about hp ice/grass regieleki? That would be scary.
@Cousinouf3 жыл бұрын
Regieleki would probably be Uber just by getting Hidden Power tbf
@sephikong83233 жыл бұрын
@@Cousinouf When you remember how even with the current state where it has no coverage, when the Pokemon was first introduced it was pretty much Schrodinger's Pokemon where people simultaneously thought it could be Uber or UU, and there was some insane strats with that mon in teambuilding as well (the infamous Zoroark/Klefki Ring Target Trick teams or the Spikes stacking teams that used Eleki as a way to force in the ground types to take heavy spikes damage for nothing and help create weaknesses). So when that mon was considered to be a pretty centralizing force for a few weeks in it's current state, I tend to agree that if it had HP Ice it would have been sent straight to Ubers
@zacharykribbs87153 жыл бұрын
I’ve seen a few hp ground mega latias I don’t think it was mentioned
@ishierrogamer77983 жыл бұрын
The move alongside pursuit that was so Broken that the developers removed from the game in gen 8.
@BeeEmpress3 жыл бұрын
I get hidden power but my homie pursuit never did anyone dirty
@jacksonsmith29553 жыл бұрын
@@BeeEmpress except for all ghosts and psychics that literally couldn't switch in if there was a ttar. if pursuit was normal type it would be fine (and would also preserve the ghosts are immune to trapping thing)
@whydoiexist21803 жыл бұрын
@@jacksonsmith2955 even then it was balanced I mean look at the ghots there broken
@jacksonsmith29553 жыл бұрын
@@whydoiexist2180 interesting that while you claim that there's only one ghost in ou and only one new ghost banned to ubers (excluding Calyrex-S because it's a restricted that would be uber even with pursuit). There are currently more ice types in OU (Kyurem and Weavile) than ghost types (Dragapult).
@GD-ep5fl3 жыл бұрын
@@jacksonsmith2955 tbf it's because dragapult is THAT good
@darthhydreigon8203 жыл бұрын
people are like "I wish hidden power was back" ok..... let me show you hp ice zeraora, hp fire magnezone, and hp fire kyurem... god that is gonna be frustrating
@fulltimeslackerii82293 жыл бұрын
Kyu doesn’t need HP. It already has such great coverage and already struggles with 4 moves syndrome
@darthhydreigon8203 жыл бұрын
eh.. would be helpful vs sp def sciz one of its best counters
@pbd4433 жыл бұрын
@@fulltimeslackerii8229 kyurem doesn't have 4 move syndrome. Its two sets subroost and Specs are fine with the moves they have, I mean, Ice and ground are really good coverage already.
@SPZ-gv2on3 жыл бұрын
Hp fire mag might not even be used that much tbh. Body press is generally better on a lot of teams. Hp ice zer would be annoying but it already has 4-moveslot syndrome. Kyu probably wouldn't run hp fire just for scizor except in really niche cases.
@darthhydreigon8203 жыл бұрын
@Jak Ryans but it has no boots
@pmApostic3 жыл бұрын
Woooo so excited to listen to this one. Thanks for the good vids dude
@Qaos Жыл бұрын
Hey, BKC, what's your opinion on unfreezing RoA tiers if they have a dedicated council and a high enough player base?
And now with the new games we will have hidden power 2 even more power
@boop5311 ай бұрын
Ive started playing gen 3 and its very cool. I like using HP Ghost on band heracross
@AcidLightning3 жыл бұрын
Why does everyone think Regieleki would be broken with hp ice? We literally had a very similar power level with tapu koko last gen when terrain was 1.5x
@Cepaceous3 жыл бұрын
Regieleki is faster and stronger than Koko and has access to rising voltage. It's also a good terrain abuser
@vulpes65233 жыл бұрын
And it can spin
@SPZ-gv2on3 жыл бұрын
It's so much faster. It outspeeds most scarf pokemon and with hp ice as an option rising voltage would legitimately require a specific counter on every team.
@vulpes65233 жыл бұрын
@@SPZ-gv2on lanturn Lmao
@SPZ-gv2on3 жыл бұрын
@@vulpes6523 Yeah lol time for it to rise up to OU use randomly for like the 3rd time
@whomgod4203 жыл бұрын
I hope when HP comes back in the DP remakes thanks to the Unown caves they keep it strictly to Unown (and buff it back to 70 or even raise it a bit higher). It was pretty bad for balance when infinite coverage is a thing and I think the devs realized that with how scant coverage on some pokemon is in Gen 8. Hell they even removed Signal Beam
@LunaroseClaire3 жыл бұрын
Wow, never even knew they removed it.
@AkatsukiKaizoku3 жыл бұрын
They really should return HP and allow us to get whatever time we want. Bump it to 70 so Technician HP doesn't terrorize us.
@starduststriker87922 жыл бұрын
ngl i think removing signal beam was a really bad decision. even if you argue that infinite coverage is bad signal beam was just a cool move as a bug-type move for nonbugs to learn and offensively bug has never been a busted coverage type to begin with.
@simonalbert75182 жыл бұрын
@@starduststriker8792 Gives magneton/zone some actual coverage so it can smack grasses that don't get smacked by flash cannon, just an example. Electrics are really the main thing that benefits from signal beam and they aren't known for they're coverage (just look at regieleki's moveset dear god).
@sugarybomber2 жыл бұрын
Update unknown is now the only pokemon to know HP in BDSP
@fit211farhaanfakih32 жыл бұрын
Can you make an analysis for gen 8 too
@inazuma-fulgur2 жыл бұрын
Am like one minute in and already suprised, based on your opinions on team preview I expected you to defend hp. I mean it's arguably also an unknown but sort of guessable factor like the last mon in a team or smth. Rip hidden power, may it never come back
@inazuma-fulgur2 жыл бұрын
Also arguably worse to play against in non team preview metas
@jacksonsmith29553 жыл бұрын
our superstar is almost at 15k subs! :D
@fulltimeslackerii82293 жыл бұрын
Gen 4 should have introduced a physical counter part to hidden power
@FedEx8673 жыл бұрын
No it shouldn't have.
@beta511ee42 жыл бұрын
We kinda had Natural Gift.
@PinkBunnyCorporation Жыл бұрын
I think hidden power could have been okay of they somehow changed it up. I miss it. But in its debut generstion the base power was too high. Being base 50 seemed very reasonable to me as a trade off for its power. But I think that it was beautiful as it was before the physical special split in gen 4. If they made a physical counter part and kept half the types as physical lets call it hidden power and a special one we can called hidden pulse. Thst could have been interesting to keep hp bug physical for example. Because HP after that was very lopsided. And I think if it announced in using the attack what type it was would have been good. But ultimately I think this would have been a good way to keep it around as a legacy move. Hear me out because i want it to stay forever even crippled. Tie HP to pokemon natures. HP is now a random type each time you use it, however depending on nature it is more likely to be certain types based on stat boosted and derank other types based on stat reduced. I dont like the idea of removing moves from the game entirely. It deletes play styles. And players can choose to ban moves if they want between friends and in unofficial play as they always have. I dont need gamefreak to delete a playstyle me and a friend might want to play. Anyhow just my 2 cents.
@gallantstryker98973 жыл бұрын
Hp video is great. Keep up the great videos
@bipen11763 жыл бұрын
what does ou by technicality even mean exacly? isnt that what uubl is for?
@tundralter3 жыл бұрын
They aren't tested in UU. That's why it is called OU by technicality. There are too few players in the past gen lower tiers, so they won't have enough data to decide whether the mons are viable for UU or too strong for UU.
@SPZ-gv2on3 жыл бұрын
Fringe cases. For example, mega chomp was OU by technicality last gen because it saw almost no use in OU, but garchomp base form was OU and the mega was never tested down.
@RD-xf4yg3 жыл бұрын
who would dislike a BKC vid?
@fantoast69322 жыл бұрын
blaze kick chicken
@AM22Salabok3 жыл бұрын
One of my favorite moves. RIP.
@Ravie_B3 жыл бұрын
I always loved the mind games of hp fire lati twins in gen 5. If you looked at their team and saw they were ferro weak (which is an awful thing to do in gen 5) you could often assume they had hp fire on latias or latios. Switching in my own lati and playing chicken with them on if it's a speed tie or not was always fun. It's the only reason I didn't run hp fire on a lati twin and found alternative answers to ferrothorn.
@graylyhen94902 жыл бұрын
EXCEL AND DEFEAT
@Ardorin3 жыл бұрын
1:31 why did circus music start playing
@davidguzman7713 жыл бұрын
You are getting better at the art of thumbnail clickbait.
@EuphoniumMeister2 жыл бұрын
Is everyone ready for Unown returning??? :D
@jeffersonroberts82633 жыл бұрын
I love this thumbnail
@willjoyce5013 Жыл бұрын
They screwed up removing HP by adding Tera
@Cousinouf3 жыл бұрын
anyone can link me the Driftveil City Remix at 13:20? :D
@CoryFPS Жыл бұрын
Till you get bugged out by a Marrowak
@graylyhen94902 жыл бұрын
Hidden Power in older gens is such a terrible cope for Game Freak refusing to give most Pokemon actual STAB or movepools
@Eroil3 жыл бұрын
Gen 3- We ALL spam hp grass
@soma46711 ай бұрын
Swampert must die XD
@JordanGoretology3 жыл бұрын
I'm glad they removed HP. I hope it doesn't come back.
@ashely5213 жыл бұрын
BDSP since unown is catchable in sinnoh
@JordanGoretology3 жыл бұрын
@@ashely521 damn you are right.
@eleviathan46212 жыл бұрын
Let's give every pokemon access to moderately powerful move of any type, it's totally fair and balanced since they all get it!
@BiPhBiPhBiPhBiPh Жыл бұрын
Zoom Class vibes 😅
@JamesJones-ts5fl3 жыл бұрын
1:18:24 sage advice
@InciniumVGC2 жыл бұрын
I kinda miss Hidden Power, even though just having coverage moves without wonky IVs or the hassle of getting it in game is better.
@whydoiexist21803 жыл бұрын
Why use beat up dugtrio?
@gangadharkatragadda84183 жыл бұрын
beat up in gen 3 used your Pokemon's attack stat and the opposing Pokemon's defense stat, so it let Dugtrio reliably 2hko Blissey
@BKCplaysPokemon3 жыл бұрын
also, unlike eq, it cannot be countered
@whydoiexist21803 жыл бұрын
@@BKCplaysPokemon ok
@beta511ee42 жыл бұрын
@@BKCplaysPokemon Is it because it’s a Dark type move despite using the Attack stat of teammates?
@BKCplaysPokemon2 жыл бұрын
@@beta511ee4 yes
@overkia59583 жыл бұрын
I’m a HEAVY advocater for hp ground for zone in any meta with heatran, great for tran removal tbolt hits skarm and later corv harder than hp fire anyway. I always prefer hp ground over fire, bc Fire also loses to tran. I feel it’s the definitive better option. (Hp ground rather than hp fire)
@fatchitanda3 жыл бұрын
Most teams with magnezone don't have as much trouble with heatran as they do with ferrothorn and (mega) scizor. Also magnezone doesn't outspeed offensive heatran
@overkia59583 жыл бұрын
@@fatchitanda I just feel it opens up your own tran or other things stopped by tran. That’s how I use zone personally. Ferro takes chip all game anyway.
@CaridorcTergilti3 жыл бұрын
Do ou with full ev Vs Uber with normal EVs
@TigerT2423 жыл бұрын
Yes.
@chopinfanclub66723 жыл бұрын
Definitely like the removal of HP
@mistermr21473 жыл бұрын
What's YOLO Skarm?
@jakebroome61203 жыл бұрын
HP ground with enough EVs to outspeed Magneton
@ktvx.943 жыл бұрын
Hidden Power is the single move I hate the most and I'm happy to see gone. It gives pokemon unfairly unpredictable coverage beyond its movepool. Too much variance.
@Cainb232 жыл бұрын
It’s funny I started out this day saying I’m far past my stage of defending swsh and realizing hp was removed was the last straw and these games are officially pathetic.. but now on my 3rd video on the subject I’m officially somewhat turned for the sake of the competitive community it seems a lot more fun without hidden power. My thing is I’m never a fan of them taking things out of Pokémon I’m sick of them changing it all willy nilly just however they see fit, but I can concede on this one point for the sake of the comp battlers