How GOOD was Shaymin ACTUALLY? - History of Shaymin in Competitive Pokemon (Gens 4-7)

[@unrealisticfezant8344]

Coming Soon: *Landorus:The Movie* *Ferrothorn:A 2 Hour Documentary* *Girafarig:The 7 Minute Ad*

[@Instagramdome]

LOOOOOOOL

[@redviper57]

Why is landorus a movie while ferrathorn is a 2 hour doc?

[@thecommenter6773]

Also coming is Landorus 2: Therian Bogoloo

[@muhammadrizkywidyakusumoaj1594]

How about Tyranitar remake video?

[@muji8872]

@@redviper57 Why does it matter?

[@tonberry2670]

Anyway, I like that Shaymin is a literal "Hedge" hog

[@DarkenedAuras7653]

OH MY GOD I JUST GOT THAT

[@otiliagabriel1382]

Oh no

[@Jeizuhh]

“You’re too slow!” -Shaymin

[@regayudafitra6236]

not only hedgehog,but some kind of small deer in sky forme

[@voltingmaster5458]

I flinched every time I tried to watch this video.

[@yourdailysadisticfolkfromi6619]

Lmao

[@TheAetherleaf]

I got confused ever time I watched his golbat/crobat video

[@redstonewatcher6651]

I got *TOSSED TO THE STRATOSPHERE* when I watched the Chansey/Blissey video.

[@iantaakalla8180]

I froze when I saw how bad Ice types are.

[@wookeattan39]

I saw something thrown OUT of Ubers in the Rayquaza Video

[@INFERN0FIRE]

This week on the *Lickitung Show* we rate Shaymin's lickability. Shaymin has a somewhat dry taste, yet exceptionally sweet at the same time. It also smells great. Sadly, the leaves on its back can be quite sharp and may hurt your tongue. Lickability rating: 7/10 "quite lickable". The Lickitung Show is a weekly show that will run until Lickitung is featured on this channel. See you all next week!

[@burnoutbot3990]

WTF

[@yesminsalima4924]

Next is Gardevoir ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

[@obinnanwakwue5735]

@@yesminsalima4924 no. Get some help.

[@yesminsalima4924]

@@obinnanwakwue5735 :(

[@INFERN0FIRE]

@@yesminsalima4924 Reportedly Gardevoir smell really nice, but they taste quite bland. We haven't been able to confirm this however, since our tongue in the field got arrested after licking one.

[@xqtionr538]

Ohh boy, this ferrothorn episode is probably going to be a two parter

[@mrinfinity5557]

I mean, have you heard of the tyranitar episode?

[@danielgreen9417]

@@mrinfinity5557 13 mins?

[@undercovertoni]

😭😭

[@brucewayne8550]

*Laughs in Landorus*

[@TheNutshaq]

Mr Infinity lmao the ttar episode isn’t even 15 minutes

[@mushroomdude123]

All the Mythical Pokemon’s stats be like: HP:💯 Attack:💯 Defense:💯 Sp. Atk:💯 Sp. Def:💯 Speed:💯

[@fork-man]

*Cough arceus 720 cough*

[@yourdailysadisticfolkfromi6619]

@@fork-man dont forget deoxys, zeraora, darkrai, Magearna, Hoopa/Unbound , Volcanion, Meloetta (I guess), Genesect, and that galarian retarded monkey zarude

[@yourdailysadisticfolkfromi6619]

@@fork-man arceus is stronger then the average lol, not even Silvally is at least RU

[@xaropevic7918]

Gen 6 be like: What is 100?

[@Chaosfly10]

@@yourdailysadisticfolkfromi6619 and to think Silvally only went up a tier or two on 2 or 3 forms all because of the multi attack buff while not even that is enough

[@DPedro3]

Togekiss: who are you? Shaymin: i'm you but stronger

[@yourdailysadisticfolkfromi6619]

Lol

[@Qwerds7]

With a worse type

[@SoggySlopster]

Ice beam has entered the chat*

[@yourdailysadisticfolkfromi6619]

@@SoggySlopster its easy, it can flinch it as long it dosent have inner focus

[@fork-man]

@@SoggySlopster *brave bird has enter the chat*

[@13Lotus11]

13:00 "a lot of players didn't even know that shaymin learns swords dance" Me: WAIT SHAYMIN LEARNS SWORDS DANCE?!

[@maxgilchrist6256]

Got me too

[@yourdailysadisticfolkfromi6619]

@@maxgilchrist6256 lol

[@Tarikan5]

The duce?

[@TheOtherNeutrino]

Pretty much every fully evolved Grass type does.

[@shatteredsentient5321]

@@TheOtherNeutrino And Zarude doesn't LMFAO. Bruuuuuuh. At least give it Natural Cure than Leaf Guard smh GF.

[@the_bookworm8281]

Here is a bit of a PSA for the comment section: Smogon has recently added an NUBL tier to gen 2. It only contains 4 Pokemon: Feraligatr, Poliwrath, Raichu, and Golduck. Nothing too notable, but I don't think a lot of people really knows about this.

[@saxonjedi5878]

Hm Intresting

[@cintronproductions9430]

Classic Smogon and their banning obsession. XD

[@rangermike5571]

Thanks for the info!!

[@the_bookworm8281]

@@cintronproductions9430 Those four Pokemon where already not in NU prior to this change. However, these four where too weak / low usage to be considered true UU Pokemon, thus these four ended up in the new NUBL.

[@dawn2955]

As someone with well over 150 games played in GSC NU, I can say Raichu and Feraligatr were centralizing monsters, Poliwrath was an unbreakable menace and Golduck would of murdered the metagame had the previous mons left but it stayed

[@jayanths1221]

"Awww, what an adorable little grass hedgehog, let me cuddle you" Shaymin: *Uses seed flare and drops special defence by 2 stages whilst dealing massive damage*

[@aulderx1437]

Shaymin (Sky): *Becomes the embodiment of evil, Flinching all who dare OPPOSE its mighty AIR SLASH*

[@Lonewulf321]

This is fine

[@yourdailysadisticfolkfromi6619]

@@aulderx1437 ikr, I use it to cause annoying flinches it's so good that I have two on different teams, heck choice scarf jirachi as a alternative

[@gengarzilla1685]

Just goes to show, you can never judge on appearance alone. Shaymin reminds me of the killer bunny from Monty Python's Holy Grail.

[@yourdailysadisticfolkfromi6619]

@@gengarzilla1685 bruh, jirachi is also good with iron head equipped with the choice scarf

[@S3lvah]

I don't know that Shaymin's necessarily the cutest according to everyone, but I always found it had a cool signature ability in absorbing pollution and using it in attacks. Reminds me of a biology project in elementary school where we had to survey the plants in our environment for signs of pollution (using some species-specific information from our book). It's a cool science-y allusion to the real world.

[@burnoutbot3990]

nice

[@yesminsalima4924]

Yeah it's dope

[@Acacius1992]

Honestly never thought much about it, i think Victini is way cuter :3

[@3.2187_Kilometres]

I think Klink is the cutest Pokémon of all time.

[@openinginawe5518]

...All of the event legendary mons are cute...

[@brianv1598]

You have been doing this for awhile now, but the slight change in format to also discuss how the Pokemon changed with the meta providing a historical overview of the health of the metagame is incredible. I am so tempted to start recording a timeline of events based on what you have mentioned in previous videos because the intricacies of the meta is intriguing. Thank you for the quality work. I used to play Pokemon casually and a bit competitively but these videos have always been enjoyable to watch. I appreciate the work you had in your early videos, but wow the quality and level of detail in videos has been amazing. Keep up the work.

[@captainsunshine64]

I've been finding it a little difficult to follow because FSG flies through years of meta development, which is exhausting after 20 plus minutes. But the extra effort is worthy of applause

[@dieblauebedrohung]

if you're gonna do that timeline, I'll be happy to see it :D

[@mariotaz]

Good idea

[@yourdailysadisticfolkfromi6619]

@@dieblauebedrohung fun fact I saw some guy in showdown using dunsparce with thunderwave and headbutt with serene grace ofc lol, just used a ground type to easily kill it

[@cintronproductions9430]

Ah yes, the hedgehog that sounds like a dolphin who has a deer form that's basically Togekiss on steroids. XD

[@snapclub8751]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣👏👏👏👏👏

[@picholasido155]

Mr. Worldwide

[@itriggerpeople4433]

Yep, the pokemon world has the kind of diversity that university's would faint for

[@dijonramkaran2s156]

XDDD

[@Sunaki1000]

Sounds more like a primitive Priest and Doctor. Shaymin - Shamane

[@mcqueendies]

I’m so grateful that Shaymin is getting covered. I don’t think it’s a mythical that gets enough love.

[@rajt9996]

Meloetta too

[@yourdailysadisticfolkfromi6619]

Ah yes the god or goddess of flinching

[@tomorchard6660]

Everyone loves shaymin tho 😌

[@yourdailysadisticfolkfromi6619]

@@tomorchard6660 it's so used to cause flinching however, a mon with Inner focus, could counter it tho, good thing there are other Serene grace users, togekiss however is slow, and needs to use thunder wave to make the opponent slower then it

[@tomorchard6660]

X-Tray Unleashed ever heard of scarf Togekiss? ;)

[@JuanVilorio]

If Shaymin's video is 20+ minutes just imagine how long a Landarous or Arceus video would be

[@theendlessphoenix2799]

Lando will still be a feature Film length video

[@burritocat4391]

@@theendlessphoenix2799 I wouldn't be surprised if he made a 1-minute video and only said"very good."

[@yourdailysadisticfolkfromi6619]

@@theendlessphoenix2799 serene grace is a op ability lol

[@Crusina]

@Gabriel Mota I think he could like 3 bad forms and then a video each on the good forms like ghost.

[@Bamfordpoy]

Arceus will be a mini series

[@itriggerpeople4433]

Skymin was that one kid in school that liked to pretend punch people.

[@febfreeze831]

Ah yes the elder scrolls 5 Skymin

[@odeiomine]

*But* there's one they fear...

[@febfreeze831]

@@odeiomine The Dovairslashiin

[@itriggerpeople4433]

@@febfreeze831 *PO-KE-BALL*

[@febfreeze831]

@@itriggerpeople4433 Airslashin Airsladhin for the flinching of rage did you through 3ds across the wall (insert epic trumpet)

[@bengoodwin2141]

I’ve always loved the design on this little guy, unfortunately never got s chance to use it or even encounter it. If only there was like a main story event involving it. Feels like it would be a good box legendary along with victini

[@toaster_bloke9999]

Don't even need to hack with pearl, it can simply be done with a glitch

[@appelofdoom8211]

there’s a romhack that basically has shaymin as a box legendary so i guess that’s something.

[@mats34]

If you have the gen 4 and 5 games you can still get event pokemon. Look up Jrose11's video on how to do it through mystery gifts. No hacking and they appear legitimate. I believe you can get Shaymin on DPP.

[@beta511ee4]

Riley C Are you talking about the DNS Glitch?

[@Vicsage_]

You can always try to Wonder trade or link trade for one

[@krishhiranandani7875]

Here's a little known fact: If sky shaymin gets frozen it will revert to it's normal form

[@cintronproductions9430]

That is, if the Ice attack doesn't straight up kill it with that 4× weakness. XD

[@mcihele]

I mean, maybe we can try using powder snow?

[@gengarzilla1685]

Or Tri Attack, since it's a Normal move.

[@Teddiursayoshi]

Wait actually?

[@doubleace11554]

Really???

[@vomit37]

Hey look! FSG did a Pokemon with multiple forms. Glad to see they’ve found a format for them. Lando soon...?

[@beefboi9993]

2 hour vid incoming

[@julianofs6041]

@@beefboi9993 My popcorn is ready.

[@hiei49]

He alredy made Giratina though

[@trevorwhiteboy2649]

Can’t wait for the 5 hour video

[@theackermancer2648]

What about rotom?

[@Arcticidk]

I flinched when seeing sky form

[@deltalord6969]

Almost as much as when you saw togekiss?

[@mr.krustykrust]

my special defense dropped when I saw it

[@mcihele]

Looooooooooooooool i flinched again seeing this comment dude i can't attack

[@Dz73zxxx]

Ah yes, a white-green flower deer that keeps flinching a tectonical godzilla and drop seed payload onto the mighty sea orca Completely normal phenomenon

[@yourdailysadisticfolkfromi6619]

@@deltalord6969 tog ekiss is slower and its neccessary to get thunder wave is a waste honestly plus it could miss

[@rajt9996]

Disliked. Everybody knows seed miss has a 100% chance to drop spdef if your opponent uses it and 10% chance if you use it

[@moonjelly5]

That’s known as the Scald Law.

[@Flip-a-dip-dip]

AI be abusing that RNG smdh

[@teddyhaines6613]

10% if you hit, but seed flare only hits 60% of the time if you use it, and 100% if your opponent uses it.

[@rajt9996]

@@teddyhaines6613 aka seed miss

[@Nosretep]

Focus Blast too.

[@foreverfromhell]

7:19 I like how Shaymin hides itself when using protect, the only other pokemon with another protect animation is Lucario (that I know of)

[@yourdailysadisticfolkfromi6619]

Bruh, mons had animations but less notorious

[@foreverfromhell]

X-Tray Unleashed which ones? I’m interested to see them

[@yourdailysadisticfolkfromi6619]

@@foreverfromhell cant tell, I just played PBR once in my life

[@yourdailysadisticfolkfromi6619]

@Raju life*

[@oodogla]

I mean, every Pokemon has an animation for every move, some are just more noticeable like shaymin's.

[@M3rtyville]

OMG A CUTE FLYING HEDGEHOG *proceeds to flinch your entire team to death*

[@pokeperson1000]

Skymin slash tends to do that

[@Gnolte]

Jirachi is the same cute pokemon,of death

[@lemondemonster]

Thumbnail: Every other pokemon - 3 models for x generations Shaymin - double that

[@M3rtyville]

just imagine the Deoxys video...

[@davidlarkin1040]

@@M3rtyville Rotom?

[@zeteq6766]

@@davidlarkin1040 Arceus?

[@commentingcommenter1230]

I used the DNS exploit last year to get Oak's Letter in Platinum, then proceeded to shiny hunt it. After about 6 months of runaway encounters, I finally got my shiny Shaymin! It is now probably my most prized shiny next to a shiny Guzzlord I got in Ultra Moon after a week of SRs.

[@smackjack78]

I know that Shaymin Sky is a much better Pokémon, but I can’t resist Shaymin Land. I dare you to look at it and tell me that you hate it. If you do hate it, something’s clearly wrong with you. Just another reason to love Grass Types

[@sambenmoser1240]

The only haters did fight against it

[@burnoutbot3990]

I agree with you and I also like grass types

[@sephikong8323]

I love land form's design but I ..... I can't for the life of me like Sky form. It looks too ........I don't know how to say it, it looks extremely off and uncanny. It just feels wrong to look at it

[@Acacius1992]

Maybe a bad answer... but i feel indifferent to it. I dont hate it, but realy one of my favorite pokemon it is clearly not.

[@yourdailysadisticfolkfromi6619]

Honestly, Ion usually use grass types cuz most of em are in UU, but gotta say Skaymin is such a annoying flinching user lol

[@failedkirby3547]

Shaymin land form was listed as grass flying in the gen 6 and 7 instead of pure grass. Thanks for all the content you've been putting out!

[@Avghistorian77]

Darkrai: So, not good enough to be used in Ubers, but too good for OU in gen 7, huh? Skyman: Yeah man... what a limbo. Darkrai: -Buys Skyman a shot- I know the feeling...

[@gengarzilla1685]

Staraptor: First time?

[@Avghistorian77]

@@gengarzilla1685 Darkrai and Skyman after downing their shots: Yep.

[@yourdailysadisticfolkfromi6619]

@@gengarzilla1685 -_-

[@yourdailysadisticfolkfromi6619]

@@Avghistorian77 honestly the flinching is based on luck, and believe or not I could stop a rock polish primal groudon from setting up it's more higher with skymin, and the opponent got salty that rage quitted :P

[@Avghistorian77]

@@yourdailysadisticfolkfromi6619 Hey man, I believe it, and of course, you can get lucky, but people, especially in a Metagame like Ubers, where missing an attack, or getting a status off could mean everything, people generally go with more reliable pokemon.

[@RigalicReign]

Shaymin: That's a cute pokemon! Sky form: Bruh, that's a digimon!

[@HeyHeyChey]

I wonder what the inspiration was for the form change... Really odd

[@MariOmor1]

Technically Digimon was a Pokemon copy, but Pokemon took megas from Digimon.

[@stretch7293]

Hooray! Shaymin is my favorite Pokémon, you guys did an excellent job on this video!

[@sosams]

Nobody: PBR narrator when Shaymin is in battle: RIPPED IN TWO BY SEED FLARE

[@jackmenechino5837]

Samu Oliva EARTHQUAKE TEARS OPEN THE GROUND

[@beta511ee4]

I think it’s “ripped into”.

[@ExcalibeonSwordofEeveelutions]

@@beta511ee4 no no, their right~ It's ripped in two, as in ripped in two pieces~

[@weatherseed8994]

Bah gawd, he killed him! As god as my witness, he is broken in half!

[@yourdailysadisticfolkfromi6619]

@@weatherseed8994 bruh

[@kuttex123x4]

funny story, back when 4th gen came out my brother and i saw seperatly two different game magazines, he saw the land form and i saw the sky form, this lead to us arguing if it's a hedgehog or a deer.... end of the story.. we were both right

[@serpentreed7332]

Funny story! I have one like that too! My wife slept with one man and I slept with another and we argued until she left and never came back 😔

[@kuttex123x4]

SerpentReed that's one epic victory royale

[@huseyintok02]

Interesting fact: If Shaymin Sky is frozen during a battle, it will return to its Land Forme!🌸🔙❄ And that's ingame too!🎮

[@ChillDragon]

That sounds hilarious.

[@hiramocacio2079]

Imagine landing an ice attack that does not kill tho, and freezing, not impossible, just stupidly hard

[@mx4159]

Unfortunately nobody has actually witnessed it happen because Shaymin Sky ain’t gonna survive an ice attack

[@rajt9996]

@@mx4159 sash?

[@drpepper4761]

@@huseyintok02 Or hope for Tri Attack freeze

[@beanburrito4405]

Shaymin-Sky is the strongest grass type in the game, barring Arceus-Grass and maybe Ferrothorn. There are over 100 grass-types, so this is pretty impressive, even if it doesn’t have too much competition in the Uber or Mythical department

[@asuuki2048]

I would love to see a history of Meloetta!! I get so much usage of her!

[@Lunar_Atronach]

Same

[@Coolhand118]

Ikr, would like to see how good was arceus actually first

[@asuuki2048]

Coolhand 118 I agree. The problem with Arceus is that it would take at least two hours due to its multiple forms...

[@beta511ee4]

@@asuuki2048 I feel like her second form would be used far more if the moveset limit was more than 4.

[@whilde5417]

Title: contain shymin Me : *remember with heavy sweat*

[@eu4um]

“One of the BEST Pokemon movies” man, you and I musta been watching different movies....

[@M3rtyville]

I liked the original trilogy the best. I only recently discovered that the writer of those movies died before he could pitch the idea for the originally intended 4th Pokemon movie. To me the closest movie that was good after that was Rise of Darkrai.

[@beanson2323]

Yeah bro😂

[@Wyzarka]

I'm always amazed by how well the music choices complement the video. Incredible job.

[@Paddylol]

It makes me happy to know that both Shaymins were insane in competitive, I always thought that my favorite HEDGEhog boi wasn’t viable.

[@KenzoSnizzle]

Kellen, you, sir, are full of surprises! ;) great content as always :)

[@Magic_Ice]

How good is Explores of Sky ACTUALLY? Better then Mega Rayquaza.

[@cubedmelons876]

That's not far enough. Better than ORAS.

[@gryphonlee4975]

If we’re being honest most of the explorer games are better than the gen 6 to 8 main games

[@Magic_Ice]

@Gryphon Lee Better then ever single gen but Platinum, HGSS, BW/BW2, and maybe SM/USUM.

[@aceclover758]

The fact Hoeen remakes didn’t include the Battle Frontier is the sole reason I waited to find those games used

[@Rarest26]

I’d say it beats ALL the main series games, even B2W2. It was THAT good.

[@jonjones8814]

This Was Worth The Wait. I Was Getting Worried We Weren’t Getting A Video Today!!!

[@deltalord6969]

I heard that shaymin's sky form was considered the OU equivalent of "Cancer" at some point.

[@cintronproductions9430]

Oh, so it's more annoying than Clefable, Toxapex and Ferrothorn? Yeah I believe that, it's Togekiss but worse. And by worse I mean better, but worse for the poor opponent. XD

[@mangosteak]

@@cintronproductions9430 yes it is more anoying than any of these mons. Cause if U don't suck ass U can play around them andchip them to the point where U can ko em but U can't do anything against getting flinched to death

[@kimyona9746]

*cries in dracovish meta*

[@Dz73zxxx]

@@kimyona9746 no no no *LAUGHS at dracovish meta* "Haha banded fishious rend on rain 2HKO OU gen 7 walls"

[@Arc062]

Dz73zxxx laughs in seismitoad being OU to only counter dracovish

[@TheMeatlyShaymin]

FINALLY AFTER 3 LONG YEARS OF WAITING MY BOY

[@sarasaland4709]

I can’t wait for the future gens. With all 10,000 mythicals added. Heck, we still didn’t even cover all the Gen 4 Mythicals.

[@jooj3596]

And all of those were only available via movie ticker or GameStop

[@mr.krustykrust]

Or a special movie ticket only given out at participating game stops

[@moonjelly5]

Still need Arceus and Phione.

[@sarasaland4709]

moonjelly5 Yeah. Phione for a joke video.

[@yourdailysadisticfolkfromi6619]

@@sarasaland4709 Phione is just literally a deformed Manaphy, and oof it sucked I've only saw some guy use it once for a full team of manaphies and phiones and Ngl, I just swept the way through with my normal gem Genesect, and didnt had to use explosion... that's how weak it is

[@jt8224]

THANK YOU SO MUCH I ASKED FOR THIS AND WANTED IT SO MUCH THANK YOU REALLY ITS MY FAVORITE POKÉMON

[@michelecozzarin]

You should've mentioned the greatest Heat set ever: Quick Attack regular Shaymin to KO a weakened Scizor. Agency agency

[@burnoutbot3990]

nice

[@yourdailysadisticfolkfromi6619]

@@burnoutbot3990 problem is if they have Leftovers cuz most mon run protect to at least survive a quick attack, but can use other move if its slower then shaymin

[@oxcow99]

Agency tech!

[@prateekjain506]

Whats with people saying agency agency? I know a guy on showdown who says that a lot

[@yourdailysadisticfolkfromi6619]

@@prateekjain506 ik lol

[@absolutegamer3030]

These videos are genuinely my favorite part of the week ♡

[@3.2187_Kilometres]

Finally we won't see any annoying "Unfortunately" comments this time.

[@cintronproductions9430]

Unfortunately so.

[@3.2187_Kilometres]

@@cintronproductions9430 well played for being the only unfortunately comment I found funny.

[@toudte9462]

@rude dolphin god

[@cintronproductions9430]

@rude dolphin The heck was that for?

[@tricky6614]

Aw thats very u n f o r t u n a t e

[@mayitakeyourhatsir8632]

This is so clutch I got this right on my lunch break. Love you FSG

[@Zeo--]

Game Freak must have hired Satan to create the ability serene grace.

[@gamingmookie9969]

Thank you FSG I've been asking for this for months

[@Afrochilla]

2:49 “The Cherrim on the cake” okay Kellen I don’t remember anyone saying the cherry on the cake. This man just got the icing on the cake and the cherry on top mixed up.

[@gengarzilla1685]

Or he just combined the sayings. A cherry on top of a cake does seem sensible.

[@KyvannShrike]

OH MY GOSH FINALLY! This was a really cool episode.

[@allenkeettikkal3149]

Man, if it took this long to fit the two Shaymin forms together in the thumbnail, I could only imagine how much of a nightmare it would have to be to edit the upcoming Rotom video thumbnail.

[@azurai3934]

It might just be the 3D models of all the forms as that would be too cluttered.

[@gengarzilla1685]

Normal because it's first, Wash for its Gen 5, 6, and 7 OU career, then Heat for Gen 8. There we go, an easy thumbnail idea.

[@beta511ee4]

Gengarzilla Wash and Heat are the big ones. Not sure how long the others would take.

[@lycaneen]

Great video, i appreciate all the research and gameplay work you put in. Covering both forms is a lot.

[@wookeattan39]

"It's funny, because we all know Ubers is a playable tier because Mega Rayquayza, Baton Pass, and Evasion exists"

[@butteredsalmonella]

Shaymin: Hey, Sneasler! *Sneasler's Sp. Def harshly fell!* Sneasler: Hey, Shaymin! *Shaymin fell asleep!*

[@joanaguayoplanell4912]

Shaymin: how OUTDATED are 100-round stats ACTUALLY? Shaymin Sky: How BADLY does Serene Grace deserve getting removed FOREVER?

[@webbowser8834]

I actually like 100 cross the board statlines tbh. They allow for some super interesting and versatile mon designs like Mew and Jirachi. Serene Grace can die in a hole.

[@jdamourep]

@@webbowser8834 honestly serene grace is fine by virtue if it not being wide spread.

[@gengarzilla1685]

Serene Grace itself is alright, it's just certain moves like Air Slash and Iron Head which really abuse it. Put their flinch chance down to 20% and suddenly it wouldn't look so bad.

[@francisco.mrsm.22]

Shaymin's the ideal multi-form Pokemon. Recently Game Freak's become too obsessed with powered up forms like Complete Zygarde, Ultra Necrozma, and the Primals just adding to the power creep with each new generation. I like that both Shaymin forms are good in different ways while not being overly-powerful. They're also conceptually more interesting, in the same field as the Deoxys, and Giratina forms where the Pokemon actually changes in a way that's physically and competitively different to the base form.

[@Rose-ez7yn]

While not being overly powerful??? Did you even watch the video??????

[@jwanie366]

Didn’t expect a mythical for this week lol

[@yourdailysadisticfolkfromi6619]

Bruh

[@silliestclover]

I waited AGES for this and i love it

[@DukeSR8]

Also GOOF: In the Gen 6 section, it lists Shaymin Land as Grass/Flying.

[@DukeSR8]

Also the same goof happens in the Gen 7 Section. IDK What FSG was smoking when he edited this video

[@azurai3934]

Matthew Ross Shaymin is a Grass type

[@yourdailysadisticfolkfromi6619]

@@DukeSR8 maybe Cocaine

[@yourdailysadisticfolkfromi6619]

@@azurai3934 but he put in the wrong forms in the vid at gen 4 n 7

[@obinnanwakwue5735]

@@DukeSR8 smoking some Oddish probably

[@gcj17]

Finally, my dear Shaymin gets time in the channel's spotlight I thought you wouldn't do Pokémon with forms though, not complaining at all

[@leakyyo0554]

Came as soon as I got the notification

[@APerson-ws4cw]

there's an editing error on gen 6, where it says shaymin land is grass/flying type

[@DerBob137]

I know it might be a little early, but I'd like to see my Gen7 favorite Lycanroc

[@雪者]

I'm excited to learn about Shaymin's impact!!

[@aminadabbrulle8252]

Complete FSG evaluation so far: 1. Charizard - pretty decent 2. Venusaur - consistently good 3. Unown - I don't know, who cares 4. Blastoise - very, very mediocre 5. Dragonite - incredible/one of the greatest Pokemon of all time 6. Starmie - great 7. Snorlax - edge early on, but later dropped off 8. Gengar - phenomenal 9. Alakazam - great start, but later pushed down 10. Gyarados - pretty good 11. Chansey/Blissey - one of the best Pokemon 12. Machamp - decent 13. Arcanine - wasn't a bad Pokemon, wasn't a top threat 14. Lapras - not that good 15. Articuno - even more not that good 16. Zapdos - pretty damn good 17. Moltres - better than I expected 18. Tauros - it were rough two decades for him 19. Aerodactyl - decent 20. Nidoking - pretty good 21. Scizor - great/truly great 22. Tyranitar - was and is amazing 23. Rhydon/Rhyperior - decent, at least for a bit 24. Shuckle - bad, until maybe gen six 25. Heracross - honestly, it was pretty good 26. Smeargle - pretty good 27. Skarmory - amazing, in singles 28. Golbat/Crobat - OK 29. Slowbro - pretty good 30. Wigglytuff - outclassed 31. Porygon/Porygon2 - Porygon sucked, but Porygon2 was pretty good 32. Porygon-Z - OK 33. Seadra/Kingdra - hard to say, OK, I guess? Seadra just kinda sucked, really 34. Onix/Steelix - Onix was outclassed, Steelix started out well, but never really got anything 35. Azumarill - certainly wasn't a Pokegod, but once it got its combination, it was terryfying 36. Magneton/Magnezone - pretty good, especially after evolving 37. Sneasel/Weavile - Sneasel was pretty bad, but Weavile was pretty good 38. Poliwrath - not great 39. Espeon - hard to say, potentially one of the strongest non-uber Pokemon 40. Umbreon - pretty decent 41. Ampharos - wasn't that good 42. Cloyster - pretty damn good 43. Houndoom - a little underwhelming 44. Togetic/Togekiss - Togetic f**king sucked, but Togekiss was pretty damn good 45. Pikachu - pretty bad 46. Raichu - pretty bad 47. Breloom - pretty amazing, to be honest 48. Garchomp - in a word, amazing 49. Gardevoir - up and down 50. Gligar/Gliscor - Gligar wasn't great, but Gliscor was awesome 51. Feraligatr - it depends, kinda well, not great, but certainly not atrocious 52. Typhlosion - not great 53. Quagsire - man, I don't f**king know 54. Meganium - sucks 55. Dunsparce - sucked 56. Donphan - pretty dang average 57. Jolteon - for most of its life, really good 58. Vaporeon - pretty good 59. Flareon - sucked and still sucks 60. Metagross - incredible 61. Salamence - amazing 62. Swampert - good 63. Blaziken - probably best starter of all time... for now 64. Wobbuffet - hard to say 65. Sceptile - pretty below average 66. Clefable - dramatically shifting its whole life, nowadays strong placement 67. Tentacruel - OK, for a while 68. Jumpluff - honestly not very good, but better than you might expect 69. Exeggutor - steepest decline of all covered Pokemon 70. Mewtwo - you're kidding, right? 71. Mew - really good 72. Lucario - really strong 73. Kangaskhan - OK 74. Flygon - never face of the tier, but always important and defining 75. Milotic - proud representative of its kind 76. Dugtrio - once it gain Arena Trap, it become the force 77. Suicune - as good as it is regal 78. Raikou - pretty good 79. Entei - not that good 80. Marowak - had a bone or two to pick 81. Ninetales - not very good at all 82. Gallade - pretty decent 83. Tangela/Tangrowth - among the most forgettable Pokemon, but once it evolved, it become the damn important pick 84. Electabuzz/Electivire - for the most part, quite bad 85. Magmar/Magmortar - not good, like, ever 86. Misdreavus/Mismagius - OK 87. Pidgeot - bland, until mega made it viable 88. Persian - sucked after first generation 89. Roselia/Roserade - pre-evo wasn't great, Roserade was 90. Weezing - always decent, at least in the lower tiers 91. Ledian - one of the worst Pokemon of all time 92. Muk - pretty alright 93. Delibird - one of the worst competitive Pokemon in history 94. Piloswine/Mamoswine - Piloswine was underrated, but since it evolved, it become the wrecking ball 95. Froslass - definition of a specialised Pokemon 96. Beedrill - until it got mega, one of the worst Pokemon, but after, one of the most important in UU 97. Celebi - great, great Pokemon 98. Aggron - pretty much on the below average side 99. Lugia - every bit as good and some as in other media 100. Infernape - overall, pretty good 101. Sandslash - went from being decent to despondent 102. Empoleon - pretty great 103. Ho-Oh - pretty good 104. Mawile - for its first three generations, seriously awful, but then become one of the biggest threats around 105. Torterra - wasn't fantastic 106. Golem - not all Pokemon can be amazing, and it is a prime example 107. Shedinja - honestly pretty terrible 108. Rayquaza - only superlatives describe how powerful it was 109. Ditto - may not be the best in the older games 110. Scyther - in the grand scheme of things, awful 111. Staraptor - one of the best non-OU Pokemon of all time 112. Lopunny - quite decent 113. Ludicolo - wherever best aplicable has made its trainers jubilant 114. Slowking - wasn’t a superstar, but was a solid overall Pokemon, and it deserves some pants 115. Nidoqueen - her reign has been fruitful 116. Pinsir - functioning quality, then launched into successful territory 117. Murkrow/Honchkrow - the Sopranos of Pokemon weren’t great, but they had their place 118. Claydol - victim of power creep 119. Groudon - amazing and then some 120. Kyogre - every bit as amazing as its legendary status would suggest and then some 121. Jynx - fantastic 122. Volcarona - one of the most powerful Pokemon around 123. Rapidash - not very good 124. Forretress - one of the most successful singles Pokemon of all time 125. Sableye - unique case, for the most part done well 126. Hydreigon - pretty phenomenal run 127. Dialga - very good 128. Palkia - went from utterly dominant to having its viability slashed 129. Jirachi - always ranged from good to great 130. Regirock - good, in the lower tiers 131. Pelipper - before gen 7, not great, putting it kindly 132. Manaphy - quite decent 133. Hitmontop - as unique competetively as design-wise 134. Regice - had a bumpy ride 135. Darkrai - one of the scariest monsters, then unusable 136. Registeel - consistently got the job done like nothing else 137. Miltank - has always found a niche 138. Victini - spotty in OU, until it pulled through 139. Regigigas - most neuter Pokemon of all time 140. Kabutops - mostly been known as one of the best Pokemon in whatever lower tier it landed in 141. Absol - hasn’t been given a toolset well-rounded enough for success 142. Lord Helix - has been dealt a tough hand, but made something of itself regardless 143. Spiritomb - wherever it ended up, was a solid Pokemon 144. Politoed - possibly the best „zero to hero” story in Pokemon 145. Altaria - prime example of new life breathe in with a mega 146. Crawdaunt - hasn’t been a high-tier superstar, but had its place 147. Yanma/Yanmega - Yanma was one of the worst Pokemon in history, but Yanmega found legitimate use 148. Leavanny - even in the lower tiers, it didn’t really have a niche 149. Glaceon - not really very good at all 150. Dewgong - never really been good, at all 151. Sudowoodo - perfect example of a Pokemon that needs an artificial push 152. Giratina - overall solid through and through 153. Hariyama - alright 154. Slaking - kids should overcome their laziness and go to school 155. Dusclops/Dusknoir - lifetime of crippling mediocrity 156. Pachirisu - had utterly nonexistent usage in any singles ever, but the world rejoiced at VGC 2014 157. Abomasnow - quite a good Pokemon 158. Parasect - one of the worst Pokemon of all time 159. Luvdisc - tragedy of Shakespearean proportions 160. Serperior - in its short existence, it has made its presence felt, and then some 161. Toxicroak - quite a fine Pokemon 162. Golduck - never has been truly excellent 163. Emboar - lower tier lifer 164. Haxorus - ferocious and then some 165. Samurott - an NU lifer 166. Victreebel - always had some sort of forceful impact 167. Zoroark - wasn’t good at all, while also being one of the most definitive Pokemon of all time 168. Wynaut - philosophically, it was hella finna woke 169. Leafeon - call it Bill or Ted 170. Galvantula - wasn’t spectacular 171. Chandelure - quite good 172. Greninja - absolute terror 173. Krookodile - UU lifer 174. Hitmonlee - it’s kicked around lower tiers 175. Medicham - epitomy of fear 176. Scolipede - absolutely dominating (UU) as a trend 177. Luxray - wasn’t good at all 178. Sharpedo - genuinely good (as UU lifer) 179. Vileplume - one of the best lower tier Pokemon 180. (AT)Venomoth - hail Venomothra 181. Rampardos - had been punctuated with heartbreak 182. Hitmonchan - relatively pretty good 183. Excadrill - incredible 184. Bellossom - has been dealt a rough hand 185. Dodrio - had its ups and downs 186. Raticate - to put it lightly, not great 187. Qwilfish - one of the most used lower tier Pokemon of all time 188. Camerupt - mostly lower tier Pokemon 189. Xatu - not a world beater, but a terrific support 190. Shaymin - both of its forms had successful competitive history

[@AEVOND]

I can’t wait for the trailer for the ferrothorn video; it’ll get us hyped for December

[@thequeenvsslime1]

Fun fact if shaymin sky gets frozen it becomes shaymin land again

[@liquidfromsoul7194]

Best Thumbnail ever. Best boy.

[@TheRealGuywithoutaMustache]

Wait... Seed Flare actually hits other Pokemon? I thought it had a worse accuracy than Fissure and Sheer Cold

[@burnoutbot3990]

is accuracy is 85 and sheer cold is 30

[@TheRealGuywithoutaMustache]

Me: *Uses air slash* _misses 3 times in a row_ Opponenet: *Uses air slash* _crits, flinches 8 times in a row_

[@gengarzilla1685]

It's equal to Fire Blast and way too many people use that. Strange how the perception of accuracy can change between moves.

[@MrNarwhaI]

Macarlo Elliott Way to ruin the joke.

[@N12015]

13:00 You're right, I did NOT know that thing could learn swords dance until this video. In term of mythical/minor legendaries, Shaymin is a bit underwhelming, while Shaymin sky is in that limbo of not being good in Ubers or fair in OU.

[@beebobber546]

I always wonder if these mythicals were given an actual stat spread instead of 100’s, like Jirachi getting more attack and less special attack and what not.

[@M3rtyville]

that changed after Gen 5. Tho there were some in that gen that had different stats not counting Victini like Genesect and Meloetta

[@gengarzilla1685]

I would have liked to see Normal Deoxys have 100 in all stats.

[@beta511ee4]

Meloetta has the same BST, but it doesn’t have 100 in any stat.

[@noobstoise1024]

Yes! Shaymin is GOAT! Seriously though, it is absolutely my favorite Pokémon, I'm glad to see you cover it.

[@noobstoise1024]

@@sirdabsalot1yt83 looks more like a Chihuahua tbh.

[@Excellsion]

My favorite thing about Shaymin is that if you freeze Skymin it reverts to hedgehog mode. Unless it is fighting the Porygon line with Tri Attack, what is the game state where there is a Shaymin sky that gets frozen?

[@ndy21a]

Keep up the good work!!

[@elfanaticovirtual]

Shaymin: If Sonic was in Pokémon, was grass type, a real headhog and has a transformation with a flower

[@Ndakidd]

Sonic technically does have a transformation. Super Sonic and Hyper Sonic

[@elfanaticovirtual]

@@Ndakidd Repared

[@beta511ee4]

Fun fact, Shaymin’s voiced by Tails’ original voice actor (4Kids era).

[@UltimatePhantasm]

Shiny Lycanroc tho its entire day-night evolution tree gimmick is a reference to Sonic Unleashed

[@acc3209]

I swear Shaymin Sky has one of the coolest designs

[@arbiter1272]

I'm still hoping for how good was Deoxys actually

[@goldenhydreigon4727]

Skymin: *gets banned because of Serene Grace* Jirachi and Togekiss: *nervous laughter*

[@realmdarkness]

FSG: And in this video we'll be covering these competitive formats Me: Unfortunately... FSG: Shaymin was a great Pokemon Me:... Oh

[@weatherseed8994]

You doubt the magic hedgehog's power?!

[@tylercasea]

@@weatherseed8994 Guess he needs to feel the wrath of Seed Flare for himself.

[@tobecontinued987]

YES ITS HERE

[@StormTheOnigiri]

"If Diamond and Pearl remakes come out" There's some good news

[@beta511ee4]

And it’s not by Game Freak for once!

[@雪者]

Yee

[@seat0_294]

2:49 that "cherrim on the cake" got me off guard

[@doubleace11554]

1:57 The only steels would be Skarm, Bronzong, Scizor and Foretress, the rest don't want Earth Power

[@infernoaj344]

2:49 The cherrim on the cake I see what you did there >:)

[@ShadowGamer-be6mc]

Can you please do how good was cradily actually. I love cradily and its hidden ability, storm drain, making it immume to water type moves is op for cradily.

[@TheHero136]

Shaymin Sky: You can't kill me. Salamence/Infernape/Tyranitar: We know, but he can. *Mamoswine with his mighty Ice Shard*

[@HMZeroTwo]

sky forme shaymin, or as I like to call it: SUPER SHAYMIN

[@KenzoSnizzle]

Looking forward to the community post 😊

[@Poopoocachoo]

2:42 “making it the second fastest OU Pokémon, behind Aerodactyl and Jolteon” heh

[@silverstrikegaming195]

Those two are tied first

[@Poopoocachoo]

SilverStrike Gaming I’m aware-that would still make Shaymin the third fastest though. Just thought it was funny

[@bidoofenshmirtzevilinc.4369]

I was not expecting this calibur of an episode today Edit: I think you mean how many Pokemon did Seed Flare obliterate?

[@octavioquevedocabrejos2092]

Was going to make a comment but I flinched

[@Gadgetmcflyv2]

I used to play a speed build when I played pokemon brick bronze... My boy’s name was *Sonic.*

[@EdmacZ]

Let me express my gratitude to Kellen for bringing us this awesome Mythical.

[@superrelic64]

Not even 30 seconds in and you made me have such a nostalgia rush referencing the Toys R Us download event for Shaymin. I remember doing that along with the longer wait to get Mew in Gen 3 games.

[@kingdylan5772]

How GOOD were Fire types ACTUALLY? bro pls I’ve been repeating this for weeks

[@aaronr.265]

They were never that good and stealth rocks made them worse

[@kingdylan5772]

Aaron R. idrc, it’s my fav type plus that’s a generalization bc infernape and heatran were great in gen 4

[@cintronproductions9430]

They have to wear Timbs to avoid being killed by pebbles. 😂

[@aaronr.265]

Rotflcopter89 i gave you the entire video, the type in general is bad and there are good pokemon despite that fact, not because of it

[@beta511ee4]

Aaron R. Well, that is slightly subject to change.

[@clarkkent1616]

i always smile seeing grass pokémon shine