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[@bachmannsgarage7637]

A very smart man said “The wrong oil is still better than no oil”

[@franknedobity2757]

Ya I think I heard it a time or two. John Deere low vis in my trucks power steering has proved to be a good substitute.

[@themotorfreak1]

Says Peg as he throws motor oil in the transmission

[@1994delicaman]

Zipties

[@themotorfreak1]

@Basedand Chadpilled Very true.

[@David-xl8zf]

He who is without oil shall throw the first rod. - Lubrications 2. 13

[@wthomasw2]

I like the idea of finding a truck at a junkyard and bringing it to Notre Dame truck pulls!!

[@emilschw8924]

Bet Rich and team will add a few "modifications" to make it pull all the better! :)

[@the_charter5134]

@@emilschw8924 “quad turbos has entered the chat”

[@benjamins9121]

I've been doing this with motorcycles my whole life going back to high school. It's great because it's not a ton of money to do it and not only do you get the fun and satisfaction of saving a bike but you can flip it for a decent amount of money. Obviously your time is money but if you're having fun it's not work, you're literally getting laid to have fun

[@NowellHolmes]

It really should be a Canada vs. USA reality show!

[@roflcoppter117]

Remember, its the internet: Everyone's an expert

[@hihaveaniceday9386]

As a youtube comment expert , it's very true

[@mikehunt8375]

We should probably check with the fact checkers on this, they know best. Praise our government leaders for loving us so much! Amen

[@waheeddoesstuff]

@@mikehunt8375 ???? do you not get it

[@calholli]

Comments are my expertise.

[@calholli]

@@waheeddoesstuff lol.. well you obviously don't. bwhahaa.

[@joannaatkins822]

It was nice meeting Memphis! Shame about the two stroke, but it is what it is. Making that thing pull worthy is definitely a fools errand

[@mattt198654321]

But it would sure be a great send-off.... KABOOMY

[@danw1955]

I kind of suspected a rod bearing(s) or a broken cylinder liner or 2 when you were trying to get it cranked up. My guess is someone ran it out of oil before the last owner got it. When a Detroit *QUITS* leaking oil, you better check it and add a few gallons!! Probably salvage the trans. and the diffs, etc. and scrap the rest. Better luck on the next one!😁

[@Senkino5o]

Why does everyone on the internet talk about 'Detroits' as if 95% of Detroits out there aren't 4-strokes?

[@danw1955]

@@Senkino5o Maybe because the original GM/Detroit engines *WEREN'T* 4 stroke?😉

[@jdrok5026]

​@Senkino5o 95% aren't actually they made 2 strokes for over half of detrotis existence and even in the 4 a stroke era the 2 strokes where being made for other applications the last Detroit before the dd series was the series 60 the series 50 iirc was a rebrand.

[@vincemarshall8550]

@@jdrok5026 were the 2 strokes reliable powerplants for long distance trucks ,only just discovered these existed and im curious

[@tomcleghorn4005]

At the end of the day it's always best too know when you just need too move too the next project

[@blackterminal]

I don't normally feel fond of trucks but i love this

[@Watchyn_Yarwood]

I bought a fleet of 8V92TTA powered trucks in 1979. I ran Rotella straight 40 ONLY! We dropped the rods and mains at 675,000 on our test engine which was our first addition to the fleet, and the bearings had very minor traces of copper showing. the DDA dealer in Memphis was so impressed that they sent the bearings and an oil sample to DDA corporate for evaluation.

[@marscruz]

Thanks for helping me discover Vice Grip Garage in the episode where you finished rebuilding the Pontiac engine in a motel room. Derek is a hoot and every time he says, "too much -- PERFECT!" -- it makes me smile. Between Derek and AvE I've learned several new undocumented languages in my mature years. Thanks to Rich, Aaron and the rest of the crew. Don't forget Marlene!

[@ZGryphon]

I find myself using "well HELP ME UNDERSTAND THIS" unnervingly often nowadays. :)

[@ram_diesel_power6039]

Go get one of those 16v92 from the tug boats at the scrap yard 😹

[@Nasty_Ramen]

Dude in his prius what the fuck

[@rykerf8265]

We need a squarebody chevy build on this channel for sure👍

[@koreywilliams4570]

He can help me fix my 96 s10 its got a 5 speed trans and a 4.3l v6

[@dvereckis]

I justbought two a 1981 1/2 ton with a 5.7 diesel, and a 1985 c70 Kodiak with a v8 CAT, Allison, disc brakes, and a two speed rear. (find a western rust free Kodiak, mine was spec'd for plow use and looks like a tonka, they rock.)

[@Eremon1]

Who would have thought...wasn't the Decepticons that got Optimus, it was hantavirus.

[@brandonfloyd6321]

22.5 dayton wheels go directly onto 20 split rim hubs. Did it many times.

[@JosephArata]

I don't think there's really any difference in the center rings, because it's the rim and wedges where they align to on both. Either way, I'd retrofit the hubs regardless to hub centric. Doing inboard drums is a pain in the ass.

[@darrencatenacci2737]

@@JosephArata Why change the hubs? A 22.5 tubeless rim will go right on a Dayton Spoke hub.

[@BadgerBishop]

That one has the perfect look, cab overs have always been my favorite.

[@fredkemp1444]

I remember being trained on split rims. Holes in block walls was our safety reminders.

[@MrGaryGG48]

None of those bulging tire cages came that way from the factory. My dad told me of one mechanic in the motor pool at Ft. Richardson, in Anchorage that wasn't using a cage (they weren't that common in the early 1950s). One of those Dayton wheels came apart and cut him pretty much in half. No one in that shop ever forgot... that was an expensive training session!!

[@darrellmatthies6895]

Very interesting 'facts' on what oil to run in A Detroit 2stroke! There are thousands of Detroit's in military usage and all we used was 15/40 in them. Never caused a problem. Gotta love 'opinions'!

[@rickbarger5161]

I Learned to Drive a big rig in one of those GMC cabovers brings back memories thanks for the videos I'll keep watching

[@Tatsuwa94]

its great having a youtube channel that is very local to me :D

[@dilligafdude9434]

That plow truck idea would be pretty cool. Then maybe put a car hauler body on the back to haul projects around?

[@nevinbontrager8828]

You can also get conversion wheels so you can mount regular 11r22.5 tires on those axles. We used to do that all the time. Ive also changed hindreds of split rims over the years. The biggest thing is that if there is any rust on them that they get thrown away.

[@JeffLMisc]

The old widomakers are banned in Nova Scotia. $10k fine per rim IIRC. However, if you want to convert the spoke wheels over, you can just use standard dayton rims which take a modern 22.5" or 24.5" tire. As for comming apart, back in the 80's the owner's shop was doing one in the shop and the ring embedded itself into the ceiling, and they never could get it down.

[@queasyislander0274]

God Canada sucks way too many bs laws 🤣🇺🇸

[@davidmackieson4609]

Rockin the skid factory merch al an woody will love that

[@markthomas625]

That is one awesome t-shirt! lol

[@rmcjr5206]

Polish that journal up still in the truck with some shoelace and sandpaper (or whatever your preferred sketchy method is) and throw a new bearing on it. All you have to lose is an hour and the cost of a bearing. Totally worth it to blow it up in grand fashion at the truck pull rather than whimpering its way to the scrap yard.

[@dangdang3970]

Super mechanic puppy is on da jobz Keep it up legends 🤘

[@DEBOSSGARAGE]

She's pretty awesome

[@danieledwards1081]

Love the outfit Rich, repping those legends at the skid factory and vice grip 💪👍

[@emilschw8924]

What a barking shame. Meow on that. OTOH it is good finding out some issues before spending a wad of dough on it... Was really an interesting watch, thanks for sharing! :)

[@ppatricktt]

I love my split rims!!! Super easy to change a tire and tube. Ive never had a problem with my split rims and ford used them at least till 94. My shop is across from a tire shop that does a lot of split rims and never heard of them having a problem

[@fighterguy4561]

The cab is the best part of that truck

[@jerrybrown5929]

Bought a silver 92 in 82 ran 1540 rotella in it till 88 bout 700'000miles. No leaks drips or errors was a fine engine

[@pinsandscrews6459]

Major props to wearing SWAG from other KZbin Channels

[@LgSutterby]

Spotted the VGG hat!

[@davidmiller9485]

i had a 70 Chevy super camper with split rims. Luckily i owned my own service station so i did them myself. Never had a problem with them. After a couple of years i got rid of them and went to American Racing mags. (it had a hopped up 327 i got from a trashed corvette. Used to kick the crap out of the berretta pace cars back in the 90's)

[@7950pacecar]

There are lots of 2 stroke Detroit's where I work with 10s of thousands of hours on them all running 15w40.

[@jprock1980]

Skid Factory shirt. I see you're a man of culture as well. It was just recently when I started watching this channel that I realized that Al and Woody had visited for some tips on diesel engines as Al worked on his conversion to a Cummins. :D

[@NotJo4Ever13]

Pulling truck! Pulling truck! PULL. ING. TRUCK.

[@joeseverythingchannel6564]

just gotta say i love that you have your own channel but still wear a vice grip garage hat its awsome that you support other channels plus derek is awsome

[@wymershandymanservice9965]

Years ago we had a rim go through the ceiling of our shop smh. It was chained in a cage and still managed to get away. Those old 2 and 3 piece rims are not worth the risk for any reason. Enjoy your content. 🇺🇸🦅🌏⚓️🇺🇸

[@dequavisjones4869]

I had a few trucks with em on the farm. Changed tires for years, until I saw a a circle cut out (filled in/patched) in the local coops wall, (limestone wall btw), where one blew and cookie cuttered thru stone. Now I say new style wheels are a way better idea.

[@desmondmoonbear8149]

Oil is oil It's a Detroit it's going to leak out eventually

[@keith2860]

have 30k hrs on the 6-71 in my work boat, ran nothing but waste oil of all kinds and 15-40. after 50 years its just now getting replaced.

[@thelegion3682]

@Captain Sandwich Agreed . Better yet Id love to see how long they could keep my shop running and my customers happy 🙂

[@jmason4055]

just fix it! dont be a quitter! show the ol boy some love! lol.

[@Sens23Bruins]

Would love to see you guys go to Notre-Dame-du-Nord!

[@JimBob-uj8gq]

Every old detroit ive ever seen ran 15w40 in it and thats what we put in them at the dealer. We even had a customer that had a silver 92 in his dumptruck and he had well over a million on it had been rebuilt twice. It was the first truck he bought for his business and said he wouldnt part with it or trade anything for it. Those motors are tough to kill but got pricey to rebuild.

[@constantinsilverfox5249]

A Prime ramp truck would be awesome!

[@Andrewlang90]

Optimus Brine would make a sweet toy hauler….just thinking out loud I would donate to this if you decided to crowdfund it

[@socialxperiment3162]

Love the Vice Grip Garage merch

[@mrmark6690]

THE SKID FACTORY 🏭!!!

[@K1lostream]

Give Finnegan a call - he has a fairly out-of-control truck-buying habit; He's bound to have something lying around that his missus will thank you for relieving him of!

[@jspaulding4106]

+1 star for puppy cameo.

[@JackTheSnack.]

Man the notre dame truck pulls are my childhood. Was there very often they are sweet. Would be sick to see you out there.

[@alexprymack7834]

Nice shirt. Some of the best automotive channels on the net!

[@bowslap]

At least you have a sense of humor about the oil-viscosity issue....but yeah, that old Astro is beyond salvation aside from perhaps the transmission and some cab-specific items for another Astro project.

[@davidredlinger876]

Thanks for the safety knowledge on the widow maker tires. I'm pretty impressed on the way you handled the Optimus brine.......thank you and I like your hat and your good spirit.

[@motomehanicar459]

It would be so nice to restore that truck, it has so much charm and looks awesome. Give it a new life, I would love to see that.

[@brian4575]

"Ran when parked" 🤣

[@phantomwalker8251]

ran when parked,,yes i did,got the hell outa there..

[@BrettLizzy420]

Wow. I thought you were perfect. Thanks for all the great videos. 😊

[@StyleGT]

LOL @8:20 THE DURAMAX SCREAM BOYZ

[@HighPriority]

Bummer on the spun bearing. To the scrapper you go!

[@madcat4563]

Nice skid factory T-shirt at the end.

[@donbullock8790]

Junk Yard finds prove to be most fun challenging.

[@Danger_mouse]

Win some, loose some. They can't all be in great shape when parked. Love the Skid Factory T shirt 👌 I live aboot 20 mins from the guys in Queensland.

[@emdenny10]

The rh 5 wheel is the widow maker. Split ring wheels are used in America to this day on old trucks. Mostly chassis though. Steer tire split rings are a no no. The frame situation is a no go here also. Parade truck / antique truck should be OK. No trailers . I worked for iloca in Illinois and MBT for years on trucks and trailers. I'm excited for this build. Vvg brought me here. Good luck with this. I'm subscribed now.

[@nogle100]

Nice Vice Grip Garage hat!!!

[@RedRocketC6]

Can really appreciate you repping other channels merch. Keep on being De Boss!

[@thelol1759]

Hate to admit it, but I didn’t question it when you said it was nuts in the engine oil. Seen too much crazy stuff in oil pans 😂

[@2CabrasLocas]

💯💯💯 Build a competition pull truck!

[@DEBOSSGARAGE]

Some day. Those puppies are putting out 3000 hp with 6 figure engines. Not quite there yet

[@Shinoske22]

Good Ole Dayton rims they still use in rail chassis

[@ChairMan71196]

You don’t hear of people swapping Detroit’s into a newer chassis, I think it would be awesome if y’all did that. Turn er up boyss!!!

[@JacksonEngineering]

Sorry bud. That’s a rough break. Off to V&R she goes!

[@davidthomits544]

Great channel I use to work on big trucks

[@blee10988]

You cant let it die after tempting it with salvation like that!!...poor old truck thought it had been saved and now its just gonna be led back to the field by another owner :( This was the project i was most excited for. I think you should fix it as cheap as possible and at least give it a chance to try for you!

[@boltonky]

Lets go big, Diy polish the crank throw some bearings in go for gold at a tractor pull like a lot of older well built stuff it will probably go until you really rip it apart or fusion weld it haha

[@findmyrideaustralia2597]

Awesome to see you rocking the skid factory shirt brother!

[@mathisj6582]

"here we go". What a great dude. 😁😁👌👍

[@N911GT2]

I like the merch from other channels you're wearing. Cool!

[@NathansMoparGarage]

The cab that the that truck is still cool looking. You could do it cheap by just putting it on one of those old bus chassis and shortening it. But sometimes it is just not worth fixing some stuff.

[@GR-tr4qq]

Here in Brazil these first axle drive tires are called Firestone super conquering, they are very good👍🇧🇷

[@AvocadoNation]

Plain and simple, you are my all time favorite KZbinr

[@shift_click_vroom9562]

Looks like that engine is mighty doinked bud.

[@roodgeregeld]

Done hundreds of those wheels and tyres.... Never an issue... Just keep your mind in it...

[@larrybreuer4495]

Well POO! Better luck next time. 👍👍❤️

[@robpeters5204]

I have a 69 Ford 850 super duty fire truck. It is a pumper truck with an 1100 gal tank. Everything was restored back in the mid 90’s and runs great. It has a 477 gas’s engine with a 4 spd trans. Lost storage.. can be made road legal with ease.

[@MadmanJnr]

Just wanted to say... "Very Nice Shirt"

[@dynasticgamez9059]

They may be old rims, but I like the look of them.

[@benupde1979]

Scrapping it to become something else is the best thing you can do with it 🤣

[@dave1135]

One of our engines in my dept has a Detroit in it, it gets Napa filters and 15/40 rotella every oil change, same as all the other trucks. We've had it for about 10 years, have run it hard with no issues

[@cynzhero62]

Awesome out tro shirt!. Street cred up 10%.

[@clifftrader]

Liking the VGG hat!

[@yorrickwi]

good choice on letting it go

[@DigitalBenny]

There's actually a specific type of split rim that's called a "Widowmaker" They still make split rims for road trucks, they're not illegal or banned or anything of the sort. A "Widowmaker" wheel is a wheel where the "split" is in the CENTER as opposed to one edge. THOSE wheels are no longer made, and are (technically) "banned" I've been doing tires for over 2 decades and in that time have only come across an ACTUAL "Widowmaker" wheel once. If you ever see one in person, you can understand their danger. On a more common split wheel, you can inspect the lock ring from a (relatively) safe position as you begin to air it up. With a centersplit wheel, you have to get down and put your easily detachable skull in the blast zone. And THAT is how widows were made.

[@timothy2902]

you inspired to buy my own rig. thanks deboss!

[@williamwallace5201]

doggo at 10:13 . figured I'd save you the trouble

[@carlthor91]

A C-15 is the same block as a C-18, crank rods and cylinder packs, plus injectors. Can be done, but Cat is the most expensive to work on/play with. Best wishes from Northern Manitoba.

[@pinsandscrews6459]

"MY Face isn't too dirty?" Hell no

[@2wagondragon]

The difference in the rims you were describing is the difference between tubeless and tube type. Tube type are the widow makers as you called them.

[@joshbobst1629]

Haha, "widowmakers"! We just called those spoke wheels. We used to balance them by putting a tire hammer on the ground next to the tire, spinning the wheel to see where it was sticking out more (which we would determine by seeing which sector of the tire came closest to the tire hammer as it was spinning) and then tightening with an impact wrench.

[@AidanMC1995]

Try and find another Detroit diesel! We love those motors!

[@lowcatalina6638]

RIP Optimus. Gone the way of the Dodo

[@kingofthepod5169]

My dad almost bought a chevette for 80 bucks just to drive it into a tree with his friends. This is a suggestion.

[@isaaclowe7212]

But then they sobered up?

[@kingofthepod5169]

@@isaaclowe7212The next day some guy bought a door off the car for 65$ instead of buying the whole car to save $15.

[@DanEBoyd]

@@kingofthepod5169 LMAO!!!

[@rickbarger5161]

In my 74 Peterbilt back in 76 or so I put Chevron Delo 400 15/ 40 weight in Detroit. 8v92. Still use it in my old cars and trucks with V8 motors I even have it in my huge compressor

[@mkalb4g63]

Uncle Rodney came a knocking.

[@2ndspingarage]

Tractor pull for sure!