High Level Wizard Spells in Dungeons and Dragons 5e

[@zazikel1885]

Alternative title: "High Level Wizard Spells for Bard's Magical Secrets"

[@GunnerM60]

A Bard that has multiple clones & a simulacrum. Oh man the chaos of an "immortal" mortal.

[@BlueJoneleth]

Also for sorcerers who cast wish. :D

[@euansmith3699]

@@GunnerM60 A Bard with multiple Simulacra? Finally, a band that won't break up due to artistic difference!

[@annahamilton2664]

@@GunnerM60 That's just a lich with extra steps

[@Finn14029]

Lmao true

[@PanzerYeena]

Simulacrum + True Polymorph. At level 17, the party has a pet Adult Red Dragon that is friendly to them and obeys the wizard's commands.

[@fearlessbird9422]

Damn...

[@CandleLight129]

My DM and group ruled that since dragons are canonically spell casters, True Polymorphing or Shapechanging into one allows a character to keep their class features and spells. My sorcerer decided he was done living as a half-elf.

[@MrDavidKord]

Go Silver for the cold damage and paralyzing breath! And they're cooler looking.

[@aaronwilliams8887]

I have allowed a player to do this, but I have ruled that once the Similacrum is no longer within the limit of the spell, it is now free to live its own life, and is an NPC. It may be similar to the original copy, but I had an extended discussion with a character, he thought his freed Similacrum would happily and willingly sacrifice itself for the parties interests. I told him why would his copy do a sacrifice like that when you clearly would not? That forced him to think for a while and evaluate the risks of freeing rough copies of himself that he does not have direct control over.

[@maid_of_heart3261]

Bonus points if you're a githyanki bladesinger and ride the dragon into battle

[@zadime92]

Alternative title: "High Level Wizard Spells for a Sorcerer to steal through Wish"

[@GunnerM60]

Or a Lore Bard to steal through Magical Secrets. Bards w/ a clone & or a simulacrum...., YIKES!

[@asherandai1000]

@@GunnerM60 Bards, as far as I can remember, are the only ones who can literally raise themselves from the dead. Contigency + Revivify!

[@misterdayne2792]

That is literally the plan with my Draconic Sorcerer xD Just a bunch of demiplanes with each their sorcerer clone, multiple "abandoned" buildings housing a closed off room and a clone. With some time to dig, the Wall of Stone spell, and the clone spell, you can easily make hundreds of contingencies, staying alive for as long as possible!

[@jeohranalfhir8366]

@@misterdayne2792 I'm afraid that makes no sense homie

[@maid_of_heart3261]

@@asherandai1000 A high level arcana domain cleric can too, though bards can do it sooner

[@viktar3341]

"Why limit ourselves to just one clone, let's make a dozen! What could possibly go wrong?" ~Manshoon 1370 DR

[@jeffersonrose9888]

The recent Wizard subclass video has opened my eyes to how cool the Enchantment school is. Now I want to play an Enchanter that protects his tower with several layers of security, but as a last resort, Glyph of Warding (spell glyph) set with Dominate Person level 6, the trespasser takes a ten minute walk to another Glyph of Warding (spell glyph) set with Modify Memory level 6. Viola! The trespasser has no memory of where the entrance to the tower was... or the entire previous week... Now I'm going to come up with the most convoluted, chain reaction, Rube Goldberg Machine Contingency spell I can.

[@obsolete18]

Modify memory only affects 10 minutes of time. increase the spell level just increases how long ago you can affect

[@jeffersonrose9888]

@@obsolete18 - Correct. 6th level does 1 week. So yeah, Glyph of Warding also needs to be up cast to 6th level. Like I said... it's a last resort for anyone that gets past the swamp, the difficult terrain, the illusions, etc.

[@obsolete18]

@@jeffersonrose9888 but I’m saying because you can only actually affect 10 minutes they would still remember the rest of the week. You could have them remember the entrance being somewhere else but that would have been in the last ten minutes so there would be no reason to upcast

[@jeffersonrose9888]

@@obsolete18 - Ah! Thanks. I had misread the spell. That makes sense. Not a problem for my plan really. Just a few adjustments needed.

[@RearGardist]

Contingency: "You leave when Burt Reynolds says you can leave!" *sudden Bigby's Hand*

[@joelhoskins2066]

I love how often Monty is able to work in the words Giggle Shorts into these videos.

[@euansmith3699]

I'm disappointed that he doesn't ploymorph in to a T-Rex when he does so.

[@WilliamWhyles]

@@euansmith3699 I supposed he fogot his 10-day casting of Contingency

[@euansmith3699]

@@WilliamWhyles "Giggle Shorts... GIGGLE SHORTS... Gi-Gul-Shorts!... oh, darn, what day is this?"

[@joshhobson8279]

Contingency > Otilluke's Resilient Sphere. Drop to low hp, the sphere pops up and allows potions to be consumed, defensive spells to be cast, etc. Then you get back into the fight.

[@averagemage6038]

I do this with a half ork, so when I drop to 1 hp I get in the hampster ball

[@matthewhood7635]

Making a Demiplane filled with glyphs of warding that have buff spells that would normally require concentration. Have them activate on a command phrase (e.g. "God-mode activate").

[@rdmissey2084]

J.A.R.V.I.S. online….

[@lemonhead2833]

The scariest part of this is that while players in a normal campaign would have trouble doing this, BBEGs have all the time in the world to set it up.

[@adriannelson4214]

In regards to Monty's concern about the balancing of combat encounters and the social dynamics therein, I think my preferred use of the *Simulacrum* spell would be to have it stay behind in the wizard's study, researching spells, creating scrolls or magic items, doing chores, keeping your home base in good shape for when you return. If anything goes down that shouldn't, like an intruder in the base or an attack on the town, then *Sending* could be a way for your simulacrum to let you know right away. Rubies don't exactly grow on trees, so I'd be hesitant to take my simulacrum anywhere dangerous when it can be so much more useful doing downtime activites for the party.

[@judemiller]

A simulacrum of a Scribes wizard could stay back at the base and crank out spell scrolls like nobody's business!

[@troydombrosky359]

Yes, exactly. Researcher and steward.

[@WiIICheck]

Dungeon Dudes are on a roll with Wizards. Always look forward to your videos!

[@JB-xl2jc]

I love all classes, but to me, Wizards are the quintessential D&D class. Love the content!

[@mennorach]

One thing to note about the clone, is that you can decide the age of the clone. So a wizards that is too old to adventure can make a new younger version of themselves and destroy their enemies with a suicide run. Then just wake up and go dance on the ashes of their enemies :)

[@recursiveslacker7730]

Something tells me that if that worked, nobody would have taken the high-maintenance option of lichdom after this spell was developed.

[@mennorach]

@@recursiveslacker7730 Maybe.. Up to you really, when your running the game. The way I see it, a lich is harder to kill permanently, because the clone needs a third of a year to grow. If players want to kill a specific wizard that uses Clone, they have about four months to kill it again. As I understand it, a lich is more troublesome.

[@maid_of_heart3261]

@@mennorach Yeah. Clone is one extra life per casting and takes 4 months to qctually be in effect, lichdom gives you infinite extra lives as long as your phylactery is not destroyed. Lichdom comes at the cost of your humanity, but it requires less manteinance and less body parts from the wizard than thr Clone spell

[@davidjackson5053]

Give simulacrum Blackrazor, sword dominates simulacrum, now blackrazor has a wizard body and spells... good times :)

[@a.z.pantera5577]

You sir, are a genius. I now have an idea for a minor villain.

[@davidjackson5053]

@@a.z.pantera5577 very vulnerable to animate objects... especially with coins

[@a.z.pantera5577]

@@davidjackson5053 duly noted

[@jippedevries4762]

Contingengy: since Life Transference has a range of self, that might be nice to go off once a party member falls unconscious, while you have x% of max hp left. Good guy necromancy wizard *Edit* It doesnt have a range of self, but since the spell does definitely affect the caster, I'd allow it, but It'd be up to the DM.

[@roberttschaefer]

That’s a very interesting use.

[@jeohranalfhir8366]

The caster but not "only" the caster.

[@kelvinvoorneveld7265]

you could use simulacrum to copy spellbooks so you have more spellbooks and use them to maintain your house or tower while you are adventuring. they are the greatest servants you can have.

[@nulllex0099]

Wait what. I've simulacrum used to copy creatures so much, I didn't even know it could target anything else.

[@kelvinvoorneveld7265]

@@nulllex0099 I mean that copies of the orginal wizard could do that. so your simulacrum could sit at home while you are on an adventure

[@godsamongmen8003]

It could also make the best spy ever, if your wizard is an illusionist. Similacrum may take eight hours to cast, but the 'malleable illusion' class feature only takes an action and you can change your similacrum to match someone you just saw.

[@32Loveless50]

Sorry to burst your bauble but the Simulacrum is made without any gear, and it only knows the spells you have prepared when making it and can not change the spells. so no they do not give you a free spellbook, BUT they can manually make things for you, like copying a spellbook, writing scrolls, making potions and so on, but you need to have the items for it to do the work for you. :) and my plans for my Simulacrum is to take care of my business while i'm out traveling, so i can still earn money :D

[@kelvinvoorneveld7265]

@@32Loveless50 that is what I said. You can use your simulacrum as scribes and do other physical tasks. They can still cast spells so cantrips can still be cast and when you make the simulacrum you should prepare a lot of ritual spells so they can cast those without using spell slots

[@adam222111333]

I LOVE how Kelly went from one scary octopus top in the ad to a second scary octopus top in the video hahaha. I had to check to see if they were using a filter on the video

[@_bats_]

Homunculus seems more useful as a creature you'd leave behind in your tower while you're out adventuring. If you have some project that doesn't need your spellcasting that is time consuming, leave it there to do it. Leave it there to guard your tower and immediately warn you if anything's gone wrong. Leave it with important NPCs to assist or watch over them. You basically have unlimited Sending to it, and since it can magically convey everything it senses, the wizard could read books through the Homunculus from super far away. This would allow a wizard on an adventure to do research through the Homunculus while out adventuring.

[@MsKeylas]

Genius

[@ashtonpeterson4618]

​@@MsKeylasThat book reading idea is big brain

[@karsten69]

Am I the only one who wants a Harry Dresden style adventure in D&D?

[@timscott7151]

No, no you are not. I’d love that so much!

[@jeffersonrose9888]

Isn't there a Dresden Files ttrpg? Feels like I've seen the book somewhere... If so, at least look at that for inspiration.

[@xiancaraway8874]

@@jeffersonrose9888 There is, but it's pretty dense. Not super accessible unless you are a seasoned rpg player.

[@DarthbaneKev]

@@jeffersonrose9888 The fate version of Dresden is amazing!

[@casonedwards5986]

Nope

[@DravenDresden]

Love your wizard vids! Wizard buys a library worth of books. Wizard has own tower. Wizard moves books into tower. Wizard casts Homunculus. Wizard goes adventuring, but leaves Homunculus in tower. Wizard sees new creature. Wizard communicates to Homunculus "Find out about this thing." Homunculus does research while Wizard is doing other things. You guys forgot about Mirage Arcane tho. 1sq mile of terrain HOWEVER YOU WANT!!! That is 1056x1056 (1,115,136) 5ft squares! Have an undead army coming to attack? Not anymore. Your new lava zone just ate them all... or most of them, at the very least. Just the flyers remain.

[@NoSteppie]

My newest favorite Simulacrum combo is Aberrant Sorcerer using Wish and Twin Metamagic to create two duplicates of themselves. Each has their own pool of sorcery points to cast spells from instead of their own spell slots. Huzzah.

[@lucasm.3864]

One way to use demiplane as a necromancer: make really strong undead every day, give them really good gear while they are still under your command, and throw them into the demiplane by making the “door” appear on the ground (so none of the other undead can get out). When you need to, cast demiplane, open the door, and run like hell as your enemies are overrun by an instant horde of undead.

[@michaelball2529]

Or just fill your demiplane with glyphs of warding storing the finger of death spell. For all your BBEG one shotting needs.

[@MsKeylas]

@@michaelball2529 that is more like middle finger of death

[@asherandai1000]

You stole my plan! Now I need a new gimmick for my necromancer :(

[@lucasm.3864]

@@asherandai1000 Make two demiplanes full of undead, take the Sorcerer Adept feat, use Quickened Spell to open up two full demiplanes full of guys.

[@friendly3swordwielder341]

Me seeing dungeon dudes on my feed:”this does put a smile on my face.”

[@robinthrush9672]

"I love the smell of Fireball in the morning!"

[@chrislees1965]

can’t believe you guys didn’t mention the horrific idea that as long as they have the spell slots post-initial casting, a simulacra can *cast simulacrum*, creating even MORE copies of a character.

[@crimfan]

A wizard in a game I play in has done exactly that, although eventually they end up being copies of copies of copies... so it gets messy.

[@xthebumpx]

@@crimfan Don't copy other copies, have the Simulacra copy the original caster (preferably with full spell slots).

[@JS-zr9qs]

Approach the humanoid BBEG. "I Wish to control a Simulacrum of the humanoid BBEG."

[@tylerdavault9604]

So you’re telling me they’re the same kind of stand

[@ryancparker]

I would definitely leave my homunculus in my demiplane to guard my clone.

[@tadious9415]

You could just make tons of Clones of yourself? Manshoon approves of this idea!

[@zionsgates3873]

I would love to do an attack of the clones campaign.

[@maid_of_heart3261]

Just make sure to make them with Wish or you'll end up losing limbs fast

[@jasonricksgers416]

In the Bowls of the Dungeons of the MadMage: Me: I cast Wish copying Simulacrum targeting Halaster DM: ... Counterspell, Counterspell, Counterspell, Counterspell. ME: Resolves?

[@SageSaga25]

"Now that I have the wish spell, I dont have to ask the cleric to heal my 1 inch cube flesh wounds! . . . Wait- I can also create a Simulacrum of the cleric!" Cleric - "I did not consent to this!"

[@shyguythetraveler]

Clone and Simulacrum are the favorite spells of me, myself, and I.

[@TheGenericavatar]

Contingency condition: "Upon my Death, a Fireball spell cast at 5th level, centered on my body." >8D

[@Archimonde259]

ALLAH AKHBAR

[@varthalgamekiin4931]

I actually had this idea for a genie warlock. Basically he starts as a tomb raider type character, finds a tome (pact of the tome) that contains the wish spell and a genie appears and says "damn, that was supposed to be protected, wanna help me protect it in exchange for power?" And he said hell yes. Story happens, he becomes a lot less selfish and decides to actually protect the tome...then he gets wish...a few years later, mighty fortress surrounded by plant growth and awakenned trees, hidden underground maze full of elementals, undead and constructs, guards and wards everywhere, glyphs full of all kinds of fire storms, feebleminds, prismatic walls, reverse gravities and after all of that and a whole lot more there is a sealed sarcophagus with a clone in it. Once the warlock dies, he will awaken within it, summon his tome and wish for an eternal sleep from the genie that granted him the power to become a good person.

[@trikkinikki6843]

I have a conjuration wizard npc with a simulacrum that has only been used to get research done faster, since this npc is my campaign's version of the character that the power rangers report to for their next mission. Speaking of which, thank you for reminding me of the existence of planar binding, that gives me a number of ideas.

[@collinbeal]

They forgot about True Polymorph and Magic Jar, which are scarily potent in the hands of a diviner, or any wzard

[@thruthewormhole]

You guys should definitely give Tiny Servant a look as another contender with familiar. For the campaign I'm in, we've had a little lantern TS basically serve as recurring character that does really crazy shit. My favorite moment with it will probably always be when a Sea Dragon was attacking a village fishing fleet. The dragon had gotten away from us and was head running full speed towards the helpless fishing vessels. In a last desperate attempt to stop the creature, my wizard ordered his Familiar to pick up the Tint Servant and fly after the Sea Dragon. When they finally reached the creature, the familiar dropped the Tiny Servant SAS style onto the Sea Dragon and began pummeling the crap out of it. With the familiar zapping it with a Dragon's Breath spell and the lantern round-house-kicking it, bought us time to catch up and save the day!!

[@maxh5522]

My favorite use for Simulacrum is with Illusion Wizards. Their malleable illusion class feature allows them to swap out one of the material components (aka the DNA of the duke) for something else without needed to spend an additional amount of gold.

[@mcphadenmike]

You guys are so fricking great. I haven’t even watched this video yet. I’m just happy to see that’s it’s there.

[@definitelynotaweeb6879]

Once again as soon as I started thinking about something I would want to know more about in DnD, Dungeon Dudes makes a video about it.

[@devin5201]

Fam, I'm right in the middle of creating a Wizard character, I'm psyched.

[@JB-xl2jc]

Couple of divination wizards scrying and reading your mind.... to provide quality content

[@devin5201]

@@JB-xl2jc Honestly a divination wizard working in the marketing department of a company would be such a huge asset.

[@JB-xl2jc]

@@devin5201 Just imagine the corporate espionage alone!

[@jayparks2361]

@@JB-xl2jc Hmmm, sounds like an Aquisitions Incorporated adventure. The CEO of FaceBooke wants to crush those idiots over at MyDemiSpace and unleashes his top flight espionage team of assassins, corporate rogues, and immoral divinators. I can only imagine the backstabbing, clone-napping, and strongarming of infernal patrons.

[@carlcollett9734]

u guys rock...we play level 20 plus so this really helps...we use 1st edition for levels

[@austinjeral1201]

Nicely done! Gotta say when you guys were talking about the Clone spell what immediately popped into my mind was an episode of Rick and Morty where similar shenanigans happened.

[@stoatystoat174]

For sure, the whole jump to a clone , crush a saphire before the bad guy grabs your cool staff, teleport back to kill said bad guy before going through pockets of your own corps. I thought, thats such a Rick move

[@alistairoakley898]

Awesome video guys! I really hope when you get on to the Chronurgist in your next subclass video you cover the synergy of some of these spells, especally with the level 14 Convergent Futures feature: Just a few off the top of my head: Create Homunculus - Have your Homunculus cast and concentrate on a spell for you using Arcane Abeyance. Simulacrum - Both you and your simulacrum can cause an opponent to auto fail a saving throw with Convergent Futures. That means that by the time your second turn comes around, even creatures with legendary resistance are going to automatically fail their save against your big spell. Speaking of... Planar binding - Convergent Futures means you can cause the target to automatically fail its save. Using this with Wish and the tactic above means you can bind say Orcus to obey you and use his summoning powers to create a limitless army of undead including liches that obey you by proxy. Your move necromancers.

[@bassett_green]

It gets especially interesting when your wizard manages to get access to these spells earlier in the game via a scroll. It's a really great, non-game-breaking way to give that player a chance to feel powerful by "bypassing" a tough challenge with a one-time use item (no material components either)

[@carsonrush3352]

Time for simulacrum madness. As a level 17 wizard, spend the money to make a simulacrum of yourself. Now command copy 1 to cast wish, using it to cast simulacrum without the costly component to make copy 2. Copy 2 casts wish to make copy 3. Copy 3 casts wish to make copy 4. Copy 4 casts wish... 10 minutes after you finished the first copy, you have an army of 100 wizards with level 7 or lower spell slots. They go off to fight the armies of undead while you and the last copy continue making another 100 copies to help the first ones. 8 hours later, you've created 4,200 copies of yourself. That's a lot of fireball.

[@WanderingTetsubo]

How to be banned from playing any spell caster other than warlock, cleric and paladin 101.

[@devindieckmann9202]

@@WanderingTetsubo more like how to change the game from normal dnd to angering the gods and the beings who hold together reality

[@davidpellecchia4360]

I had 3 demiplanes: 1 for our (homebrew) necromancer full of corpses, 1 I called home, and 1 to hold my pocket change.

[@DarrylCross]

The other thing about the clone spell is not only can it be a backup life, but also the bit about being able to come back as a younger version of yourself. Imagine a BBEG who appears to society to be a wealthy philanthropic altruist who is the founder and main patron of an orphanage following a war, but truly in secret he is using it to select and train an army that has no loyalties or ties to anybody but himself. When the party finally find him out and confront him (leading to his death) and free the orphans not yet brainwashed - later he comes back as a poor child (still retaining his full knowledge and power) to engineer his revenge while hiding in plain sight - the party would have no reason to think this child is the same person that they had slain (as he would look considerably different). Similarly as a player, you could reasonably escape your bad reputation that follows you around for something you did (or did not do but were accused of) by having a younger clone. Then nobody would have reason to suspect that the youth they pass in the streets is the same person who was hung from the gallows last week. You essentially could create a new identity for yourself - revealing who you truly are only to your most trusted allies.

[@j.asmrgaming1228]

I wonder if contingency for something like teleport focused on your body with the endpoint being near your clone as a suitable way to make sure you have all your stuff when you get back.

[@collinbeal]

It would have to be Teleportation Circle, as Teleport is too high a level

[@ChrisCox-wv7oo]

Contingency is max 5th level spell, Teleport is 7th. Teleportation Circle is 5th, but requires a minute cast time. Contingency requires the spell to be a single Action cast.

[@toomanytamales1323]

Unfortunately contingency specifies 5th level or lower spells

[@EsShinkai02]

1. Create Simulacrum of another PC. Do not tell them. 2. Keep your simulacrum in stasis until that PC dies. 3. Hand their player your simulacrum's sheet. 4. Roleplay waking "the pc" up and tell them they're suffering amnesia from their near death experience. 5. Proceed as normal until you can rez the real one. 6. Watch the simulacrum's worldview collapse as they watch you raise the PC they believed themself to be. 7. ???? 8. WIZARD!

[@cattrucker8257]

Campaign idea: you play as a party's worth of Clones after a failed excursion against the BBEG, but the Clone spell was weakened or otherwise defective so you start at lower levels, and the Wizard who cast it was otherwise incapacitated by the BBEG and did not rejoin the Clone-revived party (or is also highly nerfed). That effectively puts you into a "second playthrough" story of a campaign against a BBEG as heroes needing to not just forge a path ahead, but to do it where they'd done it once before and the BBEG is prepared and out for them (and possibly to rescue the lost Wizard and regain their lost powers and swag).

[@annahamilton2664]

I love using Contingency a bit like Action Surge on a Bladesinger, so then I can use it to cast Haste or Greater Invisibility on me before I go into melee combat.

[@Wreckur4203]

password: Going Turbo!

[@knate44]

Contingency: Wall of Force, 3 by 3 10 ft square sheet cutting through your 5ft hight, shunting you and your allies up, and you foes down, forcing them prone. Run away as they get squished and are forced to crawl.

[@DungeonDudes]

Wall of force isn’t a valid contingency, but you could use Resilient Sphere

[@knate44]

@@DungeonDudes Ah right, doesn't target self.

[@TheLexagon]

It was worth mentioning that wish can duplicate ANY and ALL spell of level 8th or lower from ANY spell list and bois if it's fun to awaken (as 5th level druid spell) your ranger's animal companion, boi OH boi.

[@maid_of_heart3261]

Would you say that the animal companion becomes Aware Wolf?

[@TheLexagon]

@@maid_of_heart3261 Yup he can even talk now as the spell skyrocket his int into 10 and teach him a language

[@izunagi9064]

I was thinking you could break the staff of power on the BBEG then come back to the party when you wake up in your clone

[@TheHornedKing]

I'm fund of "Illusory Dragon". That spell is just so damn cool.

[@asherandai1000]

I concur. And the fact that you can say to your enemies "So you figured out it isn't real? It's still gonna kill you." Is just beautiful

[@Archimonde259]

@@asherandai1000 The damage is not great but I like that it's an Intelligence saving throw and a lot of brawny enemies don't have amazing intelligence

[@asherandai1000]

@@Archimonde259 7d6 in a 60ft cone with a save for half on a bonus action every round for a minute? That's more than a Meteor Swarm.

[@Archimonde259]

​@@asherandai1000 The point of Meteor Swarm is that it doesn't take 1 minute to deal its damage. The two should not be compared. A more direct comparison could be something like Crown of Stars, which has comparable damage per bonus action to Illusory Dragon, with a lower level spell slot, without concentration, on a roll to hit instead of a saving throw. But then of course Illusory Dragon does a 60 foot cone AoE and has a fear effect stapled onto it while Crown of Stars hits a single target per turn

[@asherandai1000]

@@Archimonde259 Crown of Stars damage doesn't compare either. Even assuming a single target, Crown of stars average damage is only 182 assuming every single attack hits. At that level a high armour class is likely, I usually use 22 as a base for high CR single target encounters, as it could be higher or lower I think this is fair but feel free to use a different base. Assuming a maxed stat bonus gives +11 to hit, making for a 50% miss rate. That further reduces Crown of Stars damage to 91 over 7 turns. Illusory Dragon over 7 turns averages at 171.5 damage. Assuming every single save is successful reduces that to 85.75 damage. This is the "worst" case scenario for Illusory Dragon and it is almost equal, worst case scenario for CoS is 0 damage. It also doesn't factor in the 3 extra turns of damage, the AoE effect, or the other benefits it provides such as fear, providing a distraction target, or the fact you can remain hidden while ID attacks. I like CoS, but you can't honestly think it compares in any way. CoS loses out big in every respect except duration. I used Meteor Swarm because it's often seen by most as the pinnacle of spell damage, even though it actually isn't very good.

[@adriannelson4214]

Fun idea: Cast *Simulacrum* with *Wish* for free, each simulacrum also casts *Simulacrum* with *Wish,* repeat until you have a small town's population of high level wizards to do your bidding. Have the last simulacrum created cast *Clone* on you with *Wish* just for good measure (unless you have a druid or cleric to cast *Regenerate* or have a *Ring of Regeneration*). That way, not only do you have a quick and cheap replica of Aeor, but you can have hundreds, if not thousands of identical spellcasters to protect your clone. At this point, liches are just liches because they're uncreative.

[@aaronjjacques]

demiplane is 27000 cubic feet of something. Imagine filling it with acid, water, greek fire, alchemical glue. And then casting it on the roof directly above your enemies.

[@nightflame69]

You would also want to leave copies of your spell books in case your clone is a wizard

[@ilzarion]

My players use every wish they can get their hands on to permanently give resistance to a type of damage to the whole party. And since it works on 10 creatures, they sell the extra slots to nobles and other npcs for profit. acid, bludgeoning, cold, fire, force, lightning, necrotic, piercing, poison, psychic, radiant, slashing, and thunder. first 13 wishes. I force them to use 3 more for Magical Slashing, bludgeoning, piercing. We have never seen a 17th wish... I wonder what they would cast :-D , and yes, they have the noncasters use the rings, luckblades etc to get the fatigue and 33%.

[@MisterChelonian]

Create homunculus plus the 10th level Necromancer class ability means you can give it hit points without hurting yourself.

[@BlackShadow1991]

Of course, Wish also had to show up XD But the Simulacrum, Demiplane and Contigency are also fun, well, in some situations and not always.

[@DracoChurch07]

Mention Dresden files? Instant thumbs up.

[@nucleargandhi2709]

I think y'all really missed out on Mirage Arcane here. It's great for creating whatever base you want, reshaping the battlefield or the greater surrounding area to whatever you want, and a whole lot more.

[@zenvariety9383]

Interesting. Yet I guess that's where the wizard can give up one of his ribs to make the clone.

[@bigwig8657]

Omg the Strange and Dormomu scene woulda been so much more epic if strange had to come back naked 😂😂😂

[@clarkkent163000]

Rule 34

[@MsKeylas]

@@clarkkent163000 nope it is not rule 34...

[@NathanT_Performer]

I thought of the clone+instant summons combo a couple weeks ago. So much fun

[@fadeleaf845]

Imagine thinking that rerolling a save once per long rest or not losing your main feature for not attacking once is balanced with those

[@thomassierp5583]

My necromancer had 1 of each elemental bound for a year. He promised to owe them a favour and help them in their various endeavours when the spell ended. The DM started calling me the avatar but we called them the four horsemen. Add contingent get out of jail free cards I had all four survive for 2 days shy of the full year. Excellent plot hooks with us paying back the service in 4 stories in the elemental planes.

[@M_M_ODonnell]

A lot of high-level Divination spells are great opportunities for what amounts to an in-character discussion with the DM about "what's a clever direction we can take this story?"

[@Arkegox]

Have a cabal of wizards for my players next set of villains; just collecting some ideas

[@Dennis-vh8tz]

Cast Simulacrum to create a copy of yourself. Simulacrum then casts Simulacrum to create a second copy of you. Second simulacrum casts Simulacrum to create a copy you. And so on until DM rules you have used up every ruby in the universe.

[@RubyVector]

Planewalking PSA: Please ensure you have a multiple forked, metal rods worth at least 250 gp each, attuned to different planes of existence stored in your demiplane for planeshit or you ain't going anywhere (a demiplane is counted as a seperate plane for the purposes of Plane shit meaning you can shift to the material plane). Please also ensure you have multiple safe Teleportation Circles on the plane you are shifting to so that you will not immidaitely be obliterated by an enenmy on your timely return. Sincerly, a frequent plane shifter

[@elinamauno8833]

Perfect timing with this as even though my wizard is level 6, we'll play until level 13 minimum so I like to plot out what spells I could take at later levels XD

[@lyingcat9022]

I’ve decided The Dungeon Dudes are my Arch Rivals! I will create a new KZbin Channel called.... The Dragon Bros!!! And I will counter every video they make!!!! ;)

[@Lt_taco]

Good luck my guy

[@WanderingTetsubo]

Good luck with that dude, cause you're definitely gonna need it!

[@lyingcat9022]

@@Lt_taco don’t call me “guy”, pal...

[@lyingcat9022]

@@WanderingTetsubo don’t call me “dude”, chum... it’s Bro, friend. ;)

[@WanderingTetsubo]

@@lyingcat9022 well, sorry there buddy, I didn't know you were Canadian.

[@Atrianpaul]

with your clone you got to have lot jars too so when you teleport back, start choping your old body to get the materials components for more clones!! XD

[@LightningBoltSpark]

11:30 Regarding "Create Homunculus vs. Find Familiar", although it's true it can't be cast as a Ritual (therefore, consuming a 6th level spell slot to recast it, if the homunculus dies) it doesn't take more time than casting Find Familiar: "The ritual version of a spell takes 10 minutes LONGER to cast than normal." (PHB 201, Rituals). So Find Familiar takes 70 min (as a ritual) vs. Create Homunculus = 60 min.

[@Floormat-ux4rw]

Contingency: if I fail 2 death saves I cast 9th level fireball on myself

[@maid_of_heart3261]

The trigger spell has to use a spell slot of 5th level or lower, so realistically it is Fireball at 5th level

[@isaac8734]

Contingency: If I fail 2 death saves by rolling or by getting struck I use telekinesis to break my staff of power - cause if you go nuke why not Tzar bomb...

[@dcyphermanplays8233]

Simulacrum would be great for making down time stuff like making magic items or potions or s*** like that

[@ShirotoraGodsbane]

The party is entertaining some poor orphans as a favor for a lord and the barbarian stubs his toe. Not wanting to curse in front of the children, he instead says, "Ah... giggle shorts" and triggers the wizard's contingency'ed fireball

[@hiyafalkor3630]

Suggestion: stand still for 90 minutes. Casts planar binding

[@DungeonDudes]

Does not work, suggestion is a concentration spell and thus ends when you start casting planar binding.

[@hiyafalkor3630]

@@DungeonDudes yep, missed that sentence in the player’s handbook about need to concentrate on casting a spell that takes longer than an action to cast.

[@Tim55lX]

My goal now is to create clones of the entire party without them knowing. At our home base, my wizard has his own private lab. The vats will be stored their clones and none of the players will know until a TPK occurs...

[@devindieckmann9202]

How you gonna get a cubic foot of flesh from each player without them knowing? Sneak into their rooms after sleeping and scrape the mattress for dead skin? 💀

[@Tim55lX]

@@devindieckmann9202 I thought cubic inch. I would need some local anesthetic and harvest from their buttocks. The DM would let them discover a new scar or missing flesh.... However.... I love the dead skin! Or maybe keep some when "healing" their wounds.

[@devindieckmann9202]

@@Tim55lX lmao it's an inch, my bad 😬

[@blas_de_lezo7375]

It’s weird listening this without thinking about all this spells in 2nd Ed ad&d

[@p.a.koelmans5608]

There are some good spells here

[@PyroGobbo]

Keep in mind arcana clerics and bards love those spells too.

[@kazebaret]

As well as Sorcerers and Genie Warlock, that have access to Wish at 17th level, and thus can cast them as well.

[@darksarcasmsvideodiaries6262]

As a veteran DM, I agree with so much on your rulings on Simulacrum. I enjoy your videos very much! Good job!

[@hydragon2311]

we all talking about wish and demi plane, but does anyone remember the legendary 9th level spell fix boat

[@brain-inafryingpan]

Was just about to say Harry Dresden does this before Kelly went ahead and name dropped him. I'm still sad I never really got to mess around with higher level spell before my campaign ended.

[@Demogarose]

Note: All these spells are incredibly and insidiously powerful... in the hands of the DM The King? Simulacrum Thought you killed the BBEG? Clone Contingency is just PURE shenanigans

[@grahamready1065]

You know, I feel like it would've been nice to have Demiplane be one of those spells that you can make permanent if you cast it in the same place for 1 year. Players could use it as the entrance to an admittedly small, yet really cool secret base that could be kept secure through a host of other spells, while I could also see high-level wizard NPCs setting up a whole bunch of interconnected demiplanes to create a massive dungeon complex a la Critical Role's Happy Fun Ball of Tricks. Idk, maybe that'd be too powerful even for an 8th level spell, but at the same time, several adventures use much larger demiplanes as settings for their stories, so it'd be nice to have a way to set something like that up using an existing spell that players could potentially pick up.

[@SteveVig]

Planar Binding Attitudes Planar Binding says, "A bound creature must follow your instructions to the best of its ability. The creature obeys the letter of your instructions, but IF THE CREAURE IS HOSTILE TO YOU, it strives to twist your words to achieve its own objectives." But, it also says, "If the creature was summoned or created by another spell, that spell's duration is extended to match the duration of this spell." (emphasis mine) Summon Fey, Summon Elemental, and Summon Fiend all say, "The creature is an ally to you and your companions." Given the way "hostile" and "ally" are used in D&D 5e rules, I think any Fey, elemental, or Fiend you summon and bind will be an ally for duration, never hostile, obeying commands in the spirit they're given and generally acting in the best interests of the summoner and their companions.

[@a.z.pantera5577]

Clone spell in a nutshell: hehehahaha you fool! I have 70 ALTERNATIVE ACCOUNTS!!"

[@legomaniac213]

I'm fond of "Dormammu, I've come to bargain!!"

[@Teaandephemery]

This is why you don't bother with high-level damage spells. Stick to Disintegrate and Cone of Cold, and use your 7+ slots for the really funky stuff.

[@conradoccaminha]

I had so many friends say wish isn't good anymore... Man, people need to pay attention...

[@chba1267]

Simulacrum "Your taking the turn of 2 player charcters" AND familiars, homunculus, planar binding minions, conjured creatures, charmed/dominanted creatures and no wizard is complete w/out a shield golem... Did i miss anything?? My wizards turn is going to take so long a solution may be to delegate out minions to other players so everyone can play 2-3 characters, might not with certain groups/tables/dms

[@locogirlz]

Love Simulacrum but for any DMs concerned about Simulacrums a good reminder that they are a magical effect and thus can be dispelled using a 7th level dispel magic or rolling a DC 17 spell casting check

[@nathans9764]

Giving your homunculus hit points reduces your maximum hitpoints. Necromancers are immune to having their max HP reduced. So a necromancer can give their homunculus half their hit points with no downsides. They could also serve as a sentry/security cam at your base, OR my favorite, they could maintain your library. You need to do research while you're out in the field? Awesome, you are psychically linked to a creature with hands and eyes in your library. Just drop every copper you have on world lore books.

[@douglasbunch3313]

Best safe word would be “ketchup belongs on hot dogs”

[@maid_of_heart3261]

If you really want to not fuck up, make it "apple belongs on pizza"

[@Morjixxo]

Wow. The clone part is mind-blowing

[@El-Rico]

My 20th level wizard uses wish to cast and instantly complete clone and simulacrum; saves time and material components (and money). Also, all rubies are actually sapphires, and they have a hardness of 9 on Mohs hardness scale, only surpassed by diamond. Realistically, it is very hard for a medeval person to crush it (evil DM's, heads-up there)

[@LilJay935000]

I feel like you can combine Simulacrum, Clone and Demiplane to have the most secure backup plan possible. It might not be the best use of Simulacrum but it could spiral out of control if it is cast on a character that has a strong money making skill, like constantly creating more spellbooks.

[@JB-xl2jc]

Pocket dimension to hold your clones, and a nice little chest with a fresh spellbook and your second best gear set there (since your clone will be naked). Oh, and a bunch of trinkets attuned to various planes there if you wanna planeshift around anywhere. Cast spells of protection and wards against scrying and teleportation on everywhere but a single foot of that demiplane. Only you know where that single foot is, so anyone but you would have an INCREDIBLY hard time infiltrating your pocket dimension. Your clones are now safe and you are effectively immortal, everything else in your realspace wizard tower and any contingencies and so on are just cherries on top. Makes you wonder why anyone would go through the trouble of becoming a Lich when you can be eternally young and functionally immortal with clones.

[@LilJay935000]

@@JB-xl2jc The challenge might be trying to keep this pocket dimension a secret. Mordenkainen's Private Sanctum would be extremely useful, again leaving a little pocket so that you can still get in, like you said, but there is that worry that any eccentric wizard might have, and if you have gone to these lengths to protect yourself you likely are a little eccentric, that anyone determined enough could still break in, so you may go to inordinate depths to keep your pocket dimension a secret. I think we just came up with a new campaign arc. Can the PCs defeat the immortal wizard that just won't stay dead? How is this unassuming wizard cheating death?

[@JB-xl2jc]

@@LilJay935000 Yeah, I love the theorycrafting! And hell yeah, a BBEG who has obsessively determined the most insanely intricate immortality plan and will continually use every little trick in the book to never go down for good. Shit, a properly warded demiplane that they've had years to prepare... that would be one helluva thing to try and even FIND, let alone infiltrate! Start prayin' to Mystra, party!

[@MrBiloxifireman]

1st. Some very good advice on Wizard spells. And Don't forget about there Live play Dungenes of Drakkenheim. Its fantastic and better than some more popular Live games 😜

[@thepurehealer1279]

2nd

[@domesticatedmoss]

This was actually a really useful vid for me rn , my wizard is getting to the stage where he is able to use these. Also i must ask again , where did ya get the shirt Kelly?

[@Comicsluvr]

Wow...I never considered using Clone as a Saved Game feature!