High Rollers D&D: Episode: 73 - Winterspire Surprises - 18th February 2018

[@Trinity-wm8sm]

Tom and Kim's reaction to Nalistri and Elora was basically me

[@alexwantsbeans2230]

Me: Kiss! Kiss! Kiss! *actually kiss* Me: HOLY SH-

[@Tom_Blue222]

start: 0:03 end of break 1:29:20 sense after like more than half an hour no one put this I decided it must be done.

[@why_ittt7784]

cyber maze thx m8

[@Yehnsei]

The real MVP

[@Qu33nAl3x]

6:59 end of recap

[@abbytealeaf]

cyber maze thank you vm

[@stikk3943]

My hero

[@andyenglish4303]

Oh my god, when Sverier got that natural 20 on his grapple that would have been the perfect time to just lay into the dragon. They'd have advantage on attack rolls, Cam would get sneak attack, and given the number of times it failed to recharge its breath weapon they'd have been fine on damage, especially if Elora used earth elemental form to tank its physical attacks.

[@dachef123]

I know right and people forget dimension door has to be a willing creatureshe is her own person she didn't have to the moment he got that natural 20 everybody should have went ham

[@onwardtowaffles]

Transport Via Plants doesn't create a 5-foot portal. It creates a link between Large or larger plants that ANY CREATURE can step through using 5 feet of movement.

[@juuldekip]

With lack of timestamps I will do it Recap begins 4:38 Game begins 6:55 Break ends 1:29:20

[@RavenCRTR]

Trot - I'm one guy! Mark - No you're not. I think you may need to fact check that one Mark :D

[@FrumpybutSuperSmart]

Blue dragons are practically a cake walk for a well rested 13th level party.

[@spedwyrm7427]

Caer Ibormeith if it was an average party, yes. But this party I'm not entirely sure... They could bore it to death waiting for the players to determine the actions of the characters, that might work.

[@alexraynn2050]

Well, it depends on the age. If it's an Ancient Dragon of ANY variety, they're well beyond screwed.

[@asherandai1000]

@@alexraynn2050 12d10 breath weapon. It's an adult dragon, ancient is 16d10. By themselves it's only a "hard" difficulty encounter, including Sverier its lowered to a medium encounter. They could easily win without even trying very hard. And even an Ancient dragon would be doable, though it would be the equivalent of two deadly encounters. But for a fully rested party with no other enemies to worry about? Well within the realm of possibility. In fact that's actually very close to what the game is balanced around for a days combat encounters.

[@PJBxx]

Mark kept telling them they had the option of fighting the dragon, and they kept thinking he was being sarcastic, lol.

[@MorinehtarTheBlue]

They are far too impressed and afraid of things that they are capable of fighting at these levels.

[@iain723]

I guess most of nalistris ability score improvements went into charisma then.

[@fuanlaw4146]

Most no all after he met the party

[@greetings1823]

I cannot believe they were babies and didn't help Sv'erier their boy, they just saved a town from a stronger enemy!

[@shadowstrike7246]

The chat went insane at that Nelora moment!

[@patrickrichardson1440]

Shadow Strike 72 when was that

[@morganwaas4868]

1:48:00 ish

[@todengel6692]

Shadow Strike 72 this is the reason you don't run through the comments while watching the Vod XD

[@Lenny-ue8hk]

That elora nalistri moment got me. Awkward nalistri is just me. And Kim's reaction makes it so much better

[@mangojuise]

Nalistri having a go at them for not telling him they were well really made me laugh

[@DarthFetid]

wow, what bunch of friends sverier has in this group. now they have a dragon to defeat in a war, without the help of a single giant. slow claps.

[@JaingSkirata]

It's Shipping time 1:50:02

[@snertsnartsnurt8587]

N10 Jaing I can’t wait for the package to arrive.

[@pop-tartdepression393]

2-3 Business days

[@wreckstate7778]

It's sad these characters will be retired soon presumably. I would like to see the high level arcs with all the development and history among the party.

[@Derploop]

wreck state jokes on you they're staring down the barrel of a tpk

[@sebarus8108]

Lol theyre baaack

[@ryangil4435]

Kim "I'm invisible" Mark "You are invisible, but..." Me "Truesight... Dragons have truesight.. TRUESIIIGGHHHTTT, KIM RUUUUNNNNN"

[@voodoominerman]

She probably should have remembered that from the last time she turned invisible with the lute and got instantly spotted by a dragon...

[@spedwyrm7427]

The_Milkman_Returns she must have misfiled that volume of her notes in the metagaming library...

[@thefracturedbutwhole5475]

Adult blue dragons do not have true sight (Ancients do) but they do have blind-sight

[@ArlanKels]

If I was playing with Trott and he feigned death, i'd pick him up and use him as a shield xD

[@tess-stone]

"Lady A and Korack (can't remember how it's spelled) join hands" and Jiutou starts crying

[@ironcladguildhand9321]

It was always gonna happen, and was mentioned I think the last time they were in Talis'val

[@tess-stone]

Ironclad Guildhand nah, I know, I just still kinda ship jiutou and him. But like everyone has a love interest except for jiutou?? And I think that's not fair.

[@ironcladguildhand9321]

That's sometimes how life goes, and DnD does kinda mimic life a little

[@tess-stone]

Ironclad Guildhand but she deserves all the love ;~;

[@blairewitch2]

Ironclad Guildhand this is true, I killed a kobold with an Arms of Hadar spell the other day going to work. D&D=life

[@TheTaiylorWallace]

Kim definitely wrote 'kiss him' I went and looked at it and it definitely matches up XD

[@andyenglish4303]

One other thing... So Cleric and Rogue both have the same hit dice and Cam has +1 to Constitution so he would have had 9 HP at first level and gained 6-9 every level after first. That means his minimum HP at this point would be 81.

[@porpoiseful253]

"LETS MAKE A DEAL, LETS RUN AWAY" JUST FUCKING KILL IT, IT ONLY HAS 225 HEALTH. YOU HAVE A DRUID, A GIANT AND A LEVEL 13 CLERIC JUST KILLLLL IT

[@animewarrior3]

them running away from a dragon legit angered me

[@CraigPlant55]

i know im reaaaly late to comment this, but using maths to work out how long it would take for reynard to hit the floor if he were to slide off the griffon, he would take less than 1 second to fall and hit the ground, so not even a sixth of his turn would be over in the time it would take

[@ErenalPL]

Good thing trott didn't discard a dragonslayer sword isn't it ? *facepalm*

[@toshomni9478]

What episode did that happen in? Don't even remember but it seems like a stupid thing to do even for Cam.

[@ErenalPL]

Well after a month you propably know that already but it was episode 61 where cam completely wasted it xD

[@KheptlaxaXonu]

They would have been able to take the dragon. It's worst attack is it's breath weapon which is only a 1/6 chance of recharging each turn.

[@Derploop]

KheptlaxaXonu 2/6* an yeah they would have been able to but now they are going to have a REALLLLLLY hard time.

[@Ledrang]

If you listen hard enough you can hear the echoes of D&D parties past, present and future screaming "never split the party"

[@Ledrang]

Which is something they seem to forget, it's 5 vs 1, Reymond fire from afar, Jiotou pummelling its face in, Cam throwing daggers and healing, Sveriah (can't remember how to spell it) throwing rocks and Elora either elemental or burning it alive in righteous Moonbeam, a few rounds later and they are all running back to the winter spire, getting the Everseed and mass reviving the frost giants and they finish it off with a big ol helping of dragon flesh.

[@Derploop]

You're right about most of that. Technically, you can't Reincarnate dragons though. Only works on Humanoids where as Giants are Giants.

[@KheptlaxaXonu]

Derploop Idk if it's RAW, but I'd count a Giant as a humanoid. Unless it's a specific designation like dragon, giant, aberration, etc.

[@blackh9604]

Well, great. I was not expecting that at the end. I'm sure they can handle it!

[@Ledrang]

Mark wouldn't give them something they couldn't handle.

[@Derploop]

BlackHangola the dragon, or something they said post stream? If Mark chooses to play the dragon to its fullest capacity it's pretty likely they TPK next session.

[@blackh9604]

Derploop Yeah, the dragon. But what are they now, level 11? They'll be fine... right

[@Ledrang]

They are level 13.

[@Derploop]

BlackHangola no, of the dragon chooses to focus Reynard it's very unlikely it doesn't kill Reynard in one round. He has 15 ac and the dragon has 94 dpr and a +12 to hit. Reynard has already been injured. Kim is the next closest person to Reynard, and if she rushes to save him, she'll likely die before support reaches her. From there, the dragon can just kill Cam. If Elora plays well, with Sverier's help she can probably save the fight 70% of the time. TL;DR if Mark plays optimally it's looking really bad for the party.

[@rossarnold4094]

Not finished the whole episode as I type this but just imagined if they kept the everseed and they convinced the dragon to touch it.

[@asherandai1000]

Dragon would just a legendary resistance. Not that it matters, it's an easy fight if only they would ever stop running away.

[@Kerrigore2]

@@asherandai1000 I mean, Kobold fight club puts an Adult Blue Dragon at "Hard" for a group of 4 lvl 13 PC's. But with Sverrier there and helping that would probably bump it down to medium or something. And they're better equipped than a lot of parties their level.

[@asherandai1000]

@@Kerrigore2 Depends how you'd rate Sverrier as an ally. I used dndbeyond's encounter builder which gave the same as you, but I've not seen an encounter builder that allows adding monsters as allies. My best guess at rating Sverrier as an ally character puts it at medium, borderline easy, but maybe I'm being too generous? Even being harsh though puts it at medium borderline hard. Still, it's a pretty easy fight if they just actually fought back. They'd have to be seriously unlucky to even come close to losing.

[@bryandean8585]

How do you not notice something as large as a dragon until you are sixty feet from it.

[@danielraitt3206]

Trott's laugh is so cute

[@aniqueevans1547]

Can we all just appreciate Tom's face at 13:00 pls?

[@TortillaBill]

Elora "there's really not much more that I can do" Gallanadel

[@konstantinkoch6114]

i single dragon taking on a whole tribe of frost giants? Doesnt seem likely if you just compare the stats ... not suprising they thought they couldnt take it on ... which they could easily

[@Oceaan25]

2:56:29 TROTT YOU MAGNIFICENT BOI WHY ARE YOU NOT PLAYING MH ON THE MAIN CHANNEL OR DIRECTING ME TO A RECORDED STREAM OF YOU PLAYING IT!?!?!? MH is the best stuff out there and you just casually tell me you love playing it? Show me more my love

[@christianmoss6464]

I know it’s annoying how they dealt with the whole dragon situation but they’re doing it from an RP standpoint. In this universe dragons are ancient beings who have been dormant for centuries and described as super powerful and stuff. With their knowledge, they believed they were completely outmatched and stood no chance. As their characters, they don’t know about CR rating or recharge rolls or different power levels of dragons. All they know is that dragons are powerful and ancient.

[@christianmoss6464]

Especially with how Mark set it up as destroying an entire settlement, they really didn’t have the idea presented to them that they could kill it.

[@asherandai1000]

Equally from an RP standpoint they literally just came off the back of killing a super powerful evil that destroyed an entire city. They have been told several times that they are among the most powerful individuals in the world. And they have a powerful friend to back them up, who they instead abandon to die. I was mad enough at them abandoning innocent civilians to die, but this really takes the cake.

[@MelficeSilesius]

1:39:30 Are we sure Jiǔtóu didn't multiclass into Bard? That sounded a lot like Vicious Mockery...

[@Chalvrek]

I feel like they're overreacting a little to the blue dragon, they can take that.

[@darkmotron9237]

Chalvrek I'm not sure if they could, (don't know how powerful it is) but I can't help, but have the feeling they abandoned him

[@Chalvrek]

An adult blue dragon (which is what it is) has a CR rating of 16, they are all level 12-13 and have arguably the most overpowered class on their team. They could definitely take it, although it'd be a tough battle.

[@darkmotron9237]

Chalvrek which is overpowered? Honestly the only one who doesn't seem incredibly strong is cam

[@Chalvrek]

Elora; Circle of the Moon Druids are incredibly overpowered, especially at later levels. If you've seen the Critical Role Lv20 Battle Royale you'll know what I mean. Keyleth could wild shape into elementals an *unlimited* amount of times.

[@shadowstrike7246]

They are being careful, since they are nearing the climax of the story, and don’t want to die before killing that Cloud Giant Bitch

[@MelficeSilesius]

Aww... that little scene between Nalistra and Elora had me tear up a little bit.

[@spedwyrm7427]

Why does everything that is as big as or bigger than an elephant seem to always get legendary resistances and actions?

[@andrewx8888]

1:43:20 Can someone link me what what Mark is referring to? The G-star fan art?

[@andrewx8888]

skylordwolfface Awwww really cute and adorable....... Sooooooo is there a r34 version somewhere aswell?

[@byfairestblood]

G-Star is GeeStarGames, one of the other Yogs

[@shroomyd.7260]

I would've fought 100 dragons or died trying to save that big beautiful giant and avenge his big beautiful dire wolf.

[@christianali5431]

1:43:06 Figured out that from his perspective, and make it your own perspective as well. When they first came together to play this campaign, none of them knew the first thing about tabletop RPG‘s. Now look at them. They are so comfortable in the characters they have created for them selves, and been able to immerse us in the world they have created. Truth is, I’m pretty proud to, or at least I would be if it was me who was Dungeonmaster.

[@alphaprawns]

Haha I love that Katie goes full Fife at 1:43:30, don't often see her lose the polite accent haha

[@killa6013]

Why the fuck are they always running away?? Everytime it's a fight that has any difficulty they try to run away.

[@moonjunk9054]

#SaveSverier

[@danielgarcia2297]

2:32:37 bunch of babies heal spherior just to leave him to die while they run.

[@thethirdsicily4802]

Please take this with a grain of salt, but I think his name is Sfverier, I could have sworn I remembered Mark saying it once, but I could be completely wrong.

[@danielgarcia2297]

you right my spelling is off.

[@spedwyrm7427]

Since they didn't want to bother fighting the dragon, it gives the giant a fitting heroic last stand to be remembered for, and since Mark seems to enjoy Dark Souls so much it might be interesting to see what happens with his wolf.

[@KRANative]

anyone know the name of the song playing at 1:07:22 ?????

[@Tomoose736]

Wow... That was the most frustrating episode ever... You're level 13, with a frost giant Ally... And it isn't even an ancient dragon. What a bunch of wusses. They probably could have killed it in the amount of time they spent screwing around trying to avoid the fight the first three rounds. Grow a spine high rollers.

[@maggintons]

And with Marion the Reynard harem grows.

[@paytonhammaker5758]

Bookmark: 2:37:00

[@Tom_Blue222]

to the top?

[@Im-Not-a-Dog]

There's a Nap Snek scooping its way up the skree scope.

[@Leo-lx8bu]

R.I.P Sverier idk how to spell his name :(

[@danielgarcia2297]

2:35:00 it's only frost giant sized a real one would be bigger.

[@amyheath8261]

I love Nalistri

[@tanukinein]

Oh my gawd so cute!!!

[@poisonedoak6563]

Ok... done some research- passive perception is lowered when a creature is naturally asleep. I believe it’s about 5. Adult blue dragons have perception +12, so their passive perception is 22 (says so in the book). So, with the penalty for being asleep, the dragon should not have heard Reynard and/or Jiutou. However, they also have blindsight 60. Soooooo.... then Mark uses the Ancient variation of the breath weapon. TF Mark

[@thefracturedbutwhole5475]

WTF are YOU talking about? an adult blue dragons breath weapon is 12D10 lightning damage (exactly what mark rolled), ancient blue dragons do 16D10 . . . kind of stupid that you didn't see that when you "read the book"

[@Hassim1983]

For the level of the party and how powerful they are they are too damn scared at dealing with what they come up against. They always stall, giving the bad guy the option to attack first so that it's not on there terms, it's so silly and so sad.

[@grandmastercultistofben]

Well...... When Mark describes how this one Dragon killed an entire tribe of frost giant.... and constantly giving them hints or.... suggestions to run They're gonna run.. I do agree though, should've fought it

[@igorwurm1419]

WTF is the gravity in this world? Falling 500 feet (152m) in a round (6s) means g = 12.67 m/s²

[@Rikonian]

Very dissapointed that they turned tail and left Sverier. Just ditch your friend, why not right?

[@asherandai1000]

And the saga of the cowardly wanna be heroes sacrificing NPC's to the bad guys because they're too scared to even try and fight continues. Poor Sverier... He deserved real friends, not this lot.

[@nathangreen3160]

Close the portal on the dragon’s head

[@Ledrang]

Dragon's head is bigger than the portal so wouldn't work, Cam already suggested that.

[@TheDnDTavern]

49:25

[@humanperson2375]

Awkard Dog Boner at 2:57:00 (sorry im years late)

[@ironcladguildhand9321]

32:48 heh, in the campaign i'm in whenever one of the characters says 'Oh Christ', or 'Jesus', I reply with 'Who the fuck is that?' Also, wouldn't the Everseed be a super kill on the dragon?

[@evaahh9584]

Ironclad Guildhand depends if the mist reached it first. If so thennnn everyone is screwed

[@ironcladguildhand9321]

It would make an excellent piece of Sling ammunition, though, if they cast Time Stop or something

[@freakyskull516]

that was a young adult blue dragon. it had about 200 HP. they almost killed it. then they ran like bitches. seriously, the average damage output of this party is 80 per round and it had already taken a blight AND it was grappled. they could have killed it in 2 rounds if they hadn't run away.

[@SherlockHulmes]

freakyskull516 wrong. Not young. Adult.

[@freakyskull516]

it only used one legendary resistance and one legendary action despite taking almost half of its 225 HP pool in damage. meaning its either a VERY scrub adult blue dragon or its the homebrew inbetween "young adult" blue dragon that only has one of each. and in the end the difference is irrelevant as this party can easily deal over 150 damage in 3 rounds with it only getting easier if the dragon spends those 3 rounds grappled. in addition to elora still having her wild shapes so thats a very scary stone tank just waiting in her back pocket.

[@lucastanner2474]

Can he make the dagger into a whip?

[@ela-811]

Useless Comment #oo: Obviously sellout over the top voice when they announce is one of the things I love about this D&D group.

[@iain723]

That moment when u see mark pick up the monster manual on the dragons page....

[@sirgatsby1774]

2:36:20 good thing dm forget it already got its breath back

[@dachef123]

Nothing made me madder than when they ran from that dragon 4 lvl13s an pretty much almost fully heals safrrier they could have took it it makes me so upset how scary they are smh they fight undead they fight vampires oh a dragon run

[@official_hadez4899]

Will Wild Magic be involved in the one-off game at Insomnia 62?

[@topdjc2878]

55:12

[@lazarus3527]

SHIT BRICKS THAT WAS AMAZING.

[@softkitty2887]

wishing you still had that magic short sword of dragon slaying.... >^.^

[@RaynCloudz]

*COUPLE SQUEALING SOUNDS*

[@lordtamnus5466]

Book mark 1:59:00

[@hockeyinalabama]

My immersion is broken cause a Nilistry wouldn't go through a female's purse. ;) haha

[@lorenzolodge9535]

They could have probably beaten the dragon easyIIIIIISSSSSSSSSSHHHHHHHHHHHH.

[@LankySmurph]

Isn't gravity 32 feet per second? So 6 seconds would be 192 feet.

[@derschwartzadder]

32 ft per second, per second. 6sec falling from 0, is~ 550 feet = 1/2 (32*6^2)

[@Blasted2Oblivion]

On earth sure. Last I checked though, earth doesn't have magic or dragons. It DOES have dungeons but I assume that is coincidence.

[@MorinehtarTheBlue]

@@Blasted2OblivionAn oft repeated fallacy. If there isn't a direct magical explanation the matter of being in a fantasy realm is irrelevant. It's a mechanics issue since they made it a rule. Not even close to fact checked for any degree of accuracy but then there is a lot of legacy stuff that's fairly bad as well. Definitely something I'd house rule as 500 feet seems largely inconsistent with the movement rules. Just instinctively for me it feels way too fast.

[@Lenny-ue8hk]

They haven't laughed that hard at an Awkward Dog Boner since the early days

[@talscorner3696]

Ooh, protecting Greybell from looters is going to be fun, now that there are no more vampires & spawn to make it a place where looters DO NOT want to hang around.

[@Lenny-ue8hk]

Is it just me or is mark saying "like" and "sort of" a lot more frequently recently.

[@PaulSmith-hr5rn]

first up, you can't outrun the dragon... second, would elora really abondon the fight with the winter spire with half a days WALKING DISTANCE!?! third, they totally could of won that fight, just by spreading out... bronze griphon, the 5th party member, elora with sun beam and earth elemental, jiutou doing her thing, cam and reynard doing theirs.. its a dragon, its not supposed to be easy, but how you can play dungeons & DRAGONS and not fight the dragon, i dont get.. especially when the campaign is close to wrapping up anyway..

[@matthewrichmond6333]

See on the one hand, I'm slightly annoyed because they could wreck an adult blue dragon no problem and they don't know that because of meta knowledge. But on the other, it's good rp so I'm proud.

[@Evandr7]

I love videos where for the first 2 and a half minutes they bully a full grown man.

[@derek2297]

Why would you use a "realistic" fall speed when movement speed in general is unrealistic in D&D. In D&D it takes on average 12 seconds to run a 120 feet even as the most athletic person possible. There are 300lb linemen in the nfl that run that far in 5 seconds.

[@Daaboo]

Ufff, don't run.... dps is the key! Just heal the giant to tank it. Then just go all out and max dps as hard as possible. It's huge so you won't miss! Focus the head to destroy its ability to do breaths. Or you have a cleric, cast haste and run around it to avoid getting hit. Use Monster hunter game as guidance!

[@BillyBtheman]

Greybelgians?

[@tanukinein]

Now all we need in Cam to go up to Merila and be like "Don't make any other boys like u cus' then i'll be jealous!" And then he grabs her and kisses her!!!!!! :)

[@questionsify]

This episode was my least favourite one of all, Holy shit guys just fucking fight

[@unalignedplayer7647]

MMMMM... BOI!!!

[@thanecrown]

And I'm caught up.

[@maggintons]

Ah the frustrating joys of having a majority party who's new and doesn't understand challenge ratings

[@thehappysealbringinggoodvi4299]

1:11:54

[@doxull]

WHY.....HOWLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!!! :'(

[@ambeatch]

Ankle deep snow. Vancouver! Yeah no it doesnt snow in Vancouver

[@squakkattack1111]

SPOILERS IF YOU HAVE NOT WATCHED THE VIDEO YET!!!!: I wonder if they realize that they could most likely take the dragon on with ease.

[@Derploop]

Zinga East with ease, no. It might have downed Cam, if it broke the grapple before it died. However, the three turns it was grappled would have been enough to kill it. Now, however, it's probably going to kill the entire party if played in a non derpy manner. The party is very split up, Cam is so low he can't help them fight the dragon, Elora and Cam are both too far away from Reynard to help him, Jiutou is the only one able to reach him within 2 turns but Reynard will be downed by the time she reaches him. She'll then die the next turn, still out of range of healing. From there, Cam gets bopped and either Elora drops the elemental form she'll be forced to take up to survive to heal him, or she doesn't and he does. Her optimal play is just earth elemental+7th level moonbeam at this point, and honestly they either have to accept Reynard's death or hope Elora doesn't fail a concentration save on the moonbeam and then she may just survive and be able to Reincarnate the 3 dead party members. They're so fucked.

[@squakkattack1111]

Honestly I think they are dead because they didn't fight the dragon. Because think about it this way Mark said that it might change the target from the people it is chasing to the place they are going. Meaning with its fly speed it will reach them within a turn or so. Then it will destroy the tree they are trying to get to and kill everyone there.

[@juuldekip]

Where the fuck are the timestamps

[@bosssaucenation]

Save sferier(my best try) YOU COWARDS !