High Rollers: Rogue's Gambit | Character Creation

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Welcome to a brand new mini series - A Rogue's Gambit! Today we're making characters for a mission-impossible style adventure in Waterdeep using the new Dragon Heist module!
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[@123r97]

Tom should be the intimidating thief that stealth's by starring at the person intensely and telling them "you cant see me" and scarring them to the point that they pretend not to see them.

[@Addy0302]

Drax

[@Im-Not-a-Dog]

Ahhh. I see you've learned of John Cena's Secret Stealth Technique.

[@Eddrian32]

Chris staring into the camera for the first minute looking like Aoyama

[@Derploop]

*Sparkles intensify*

[@mme.veronica735]

Teenage Magic Ninja Tortles! Teenage Magic Ninja Tortles! Teenage Magic Ninja Tortles!! Heros in a full shell, Tortle Power!

[@FrumpybutSuperSmart]

A total of 16 levels and only 1 level of anything that could possibly heal at all. I love these guys. May Mark have mercy on their souls.

[@randomlygeneratedname]

The ultimate form of healing is killing the enemy before they hurt you.

[@herz5159]

Ironically Katie who apparently struggles with character creation has the most comprehensible one. The Tiefling Gunslinger and former mercenary sounds fun. The rest of the characters will also be interesting

[@agentfuse6416]

Mark's entire life was just flipped upside down for him when Kim revealed the Metal Gear impression event.

[@veeellicott4724]

Kim: "its not like anybody saw" Also Kim: *Looks directly at the camara directly after"

[@webs7inger832]

Read this comment as it was happening!!!

[@michealjackson3520]

OH MY GOD KATIE ISNT AN ELF

[@mme.veronica735]

Mark is actually the second choice.

[@michealjackson3520]

Zonofv 1 What?

[@mme.veronica735]

@@michealjackson3520 You understand now?

[@MorinehtarTheBlue]

Practically the Seventh Sign there. 😅

[@an1m8r]

That play-station access video story was hilarious, I love that look behind the scenes, even if Mark maybe didn't.

[@imadandylion]

i hate that Tom is fucking his character up, but if i had the same thought process he did to get to that conclusion, i honestly would have done the same. the man is hero.

[@sonnyboh]

Tom, Don't yo dare have another one armed character. I won't allow it!

[@nickwilliams8302]

If you're playing a character with an attribute less than 8, you're playing a disabled character. There's just no other RP way to explain why your character has that negative modifier. There is something _wrong_ with that character.

[@conradkorbol]

Nick Williams I don’t agree with this. A person with one arm can be more dexterous than someone with two arms. Below average does not mean disabled. If you never learn to read you will be dumber than the average person, but that does not mean you have a disability. A 5 or lower is more likely to have disability no matter what Having a really high like a 16 and a 7 could also imply disability but that doesn’t mean anything. Even then someone with one arm if they didn’t lose their dominant arm could be more dexterous than someone with two arms

[@nickwilliams8302]

Conrad Korbol I'm not saying that you can't play a disabled* character whose talent or training allows them to compensate for that disability (perhaps even exceeding the abilities of most fully-abled people). The comics character Daredevil would be an example of this that most people would be familiar with. Or the character Shakaste in Critical Role. Or, as you imply, a one-armed fencer whose skill more than makes up for their disability. What I'm saying is that if a character suffers a -2 on an attribute check, that implies some form of disability associated with that attribute. It's just demands an explanation. To give an example, severe asthma would be an excellent way of explaining why your character has a CON of 6. But there's nothing stopping you from creating a CON 18 character whose efforts to overcome their severe asthma are _why_ they are in such extraordinary physical condition (this is actually the story of more than a few Olympic athletes). I'm not saying that a disability implies a low attribute, I'm saying that a low attribute implies a disability.

[@aurinsaint9058]

Your fun is WRONG! Lol

[@nickwilliams8302]

@@aurinsaint9058 Who's saying that?

[@shanecarey9554]

Going back and watching this after watching all of a Rogue's Gambit, I chuckle every time Mark thinks it's going to be in the style of Mission Impossible or James Bond.

[@GnomeChildForHarambe]

I know this is all done ages ago, but gotta point out to people you cannot go above 20 in a stat unless it explicitly says so, for example, the Barbarian keystone states your maximum STR and CON are now 24, so when Mark says feats can bring a score to above 20 that's not correct as far as official feats are concerned.

[@JoeR-cd9jg]

I think. Im not sure though that he homebrew allows feats to go over 20 also im fairly sure these were live streamed

[@MorinehtarTheBlue]

Yup. You explicitly need magical enhancement to crack the soft cap of 20 as far as I understand it.

[@CayneOfficial]

Dead Reckoning was amazing. Cant wait for this!

[@caffeinesystem]

I laughed until I sobbed at Trott staring into the camera at the beginning

[@edgarmedranob]

had a hardcore staring contest with hot trott.. 10/10

[@coryjordan863]

Tom makes me laugh...but IS HE GONNA MAKE ALL HIS CHARACTERS DISABLED????

[@cassandra_novella]

I love how much fun they had together in this video

[@ulfhazelcreek8108]

Watching you guys make characters is almost as much fun as making them myself. Almost. 😉

[@arcticbanana66]

1:25:00 - I don't know very much about Overwatch, but coincidentally, Boomer the Grenadier is _also_ a character in Deadzone ("Some mercenaries are motivated by money, others by glory; Boomer just wants to watch the universe burn."). He's an insane explosives expert who carries so many grenades that when he takes damage there's a chance he might catch fire, and if he's killed he explodes.

[@mme.veronica735]

I feel bad for mark, watch the last quater-ish of the video to find out why.

[@captaincrash9002]

feels bad man

[@webs7inger832]

Tom: these are awful! Roles a second 18

[@omgitsshatner8197]

Mark ... thank you so much in involving us in character creation. You are an amazballs ! DM .... yeah better than amazing.

[@Nesetroll]

One year of watching everything on the channel, then my first instinct was to watch Rouge's Gambit again. When Tom describes the left fist on right arm, I suddenly remembered why I came back to watch this again. Can't wait! Edit: Tom goes into more detail, and my coffee's coming out of my nose, and I run to the bathroom, because I'm crying and caughing and almost throwing up from laughter. NSFD: Not Safe For Drinks

[@freddiedummett9416]

trotts face man cracked me up

[@TheWearyAlkamyst]

You guys are thinking of Odysseus and his crew versus the Cyclops Polyphemus.

[@kloaf1131]

glad I went back to watch these. Tom is super silly lol.

[@Derploop]

Katie complaining about a total of 70 has obviously never rolled a 56. A 70 with a 15 and 17 is perfectly playable. It's not even going to negatively effect your game, unless you misunderstand what Intelligence as a D&D stat is and think you have to play a fool when you don't want to. Hell, in some ways having bad stats is a good thing, as long as they're not all bad. Shit going wrong is almost always than shit going right, as long as your DM isn't the 'rocks fall, party dies' type. You could also roll with that 56 and just embrace the chaos. You're going to be a focal point of a lot of good RP and hilarity. I've always viewed rolls like 6,6,8,8,12,15 as a wizard's stats. Become a righteous necromancer getting his own back on all those nasty bastards with average genetics, using only the power of your mind. Screw that guy Timmy who beat you up in school well and truly!

[@mattiascrowe2549]

imagine being katie, set back with stats, starting gold etc amd watching kim get bonuses like contacts and still being a delightful player.

[@killfacebalor2474]

2 d12...

[@maggintons]

Whats with Mark's obsession with the Harpers whenever he plays Forgotten Realms?

[@mme.veronica735]

They cool bruh

[@travishimebaugh8381]

That's his codeword. When he says "Harper" it means he's relaying coded information to... but that would be telling.

[@Geekiepoo]

@@travishimebaugh8381 he knows to much...take him down

[@travishimebaugh8381]

Come to think of it, is it possible that Mark is going to try and bring Halloway back?

[@MorinehtarTheBlue]

​@@travishimebaugh8381 He certainly could though Halloway is a pretty shady handler. Might be too down an dirty if they want more something more heroic than Dead Reckoning.

[@Kalibby22]

i genuinely forgot that mark and kim started the yogs relationship with playstation access. oh man i remember those streams! so long ago!

[@Ian-bf4yk]

1:26:15 it starts getting real good

[@kurtmueller7972]

Chris was scaring me at the start

[@door5026]

haha why did it take me so long to realise that kim is trying to make junkrat lol

[@thbrknspcbr]

I live for these guys, I am so looking forward to this series!!!

[@Swizz12]

Alternative homebrew rolling. 1) First roll 4d6, six times (as per normal). Then you can add two points to one score of your choice, as long as the original score is 16 or less. An optional rule you can add if you want a broader stat spread, is that you must also remove two points from a stat of your choice (usually meaning a bad dice roll becomes even worse). 2) This is more complicated. For any roll only the best 3 dice count as usual. Every time you roll under 16 you add a dice to the next roll, but any roll that is 16 or more drops you back to rolling 3d6 for the next roll. Example: Roll 3d6. You roll 2,4,6, = 12 Roll 4d6 You roll 1,3,3,5 = 11 Roll 5d6 You roll 2,4,5,5,6 = 16 Roll 3d6 You roll 1,2,3 = 6 Roll 4d6 You roll 2,4,5,6 = 15 Roll 5d6 You roll 1,1,2,4,5 = 11 These alternative ways of rolling give a better chance of getting a viable character with your first roll, while still not being overpowered.

[@bryanhilgeman397]

RIP Tom's reference to "Horse With No Name" at 1:29:52

[@spamk6319]

Could you make up some kind of knuckle dusters as a skin for Tom’s character? Feel like it would be very fitting to the boxer/bruiser type. Idk if it’s possible to use stats from another similar weapon but just rp as finesse knuckledusters?

[@MorinehtarTheBlue]

A cestus or a punch dagger such as a katar would do nicely. Just reskin a regular old d4 dagger and he'd still have a significant improvement on his damage.

[@marshman2415]

Tom should have been called "The Fist". Think of the potential!

[@danielgray8235]

So excited for this mini campaign. The characters sound awesome, and this group is the best!

[@Chaosdawn07]

I love these character videos

[@oliverer3]

Wasn't expecting this in my sub box I'm excited!

[@mareca226]

I love all the references

[@Shmeckos]

Tom needs to take the tavern brawler feat

[@chrislaine6708]

Tom King of the one armed bandits

[@Dailyhumorhub69]

Tom “I’m only good at climbing everything else is either zero or negative”. Tom 5 mins later- can I have a hand that is a fist that can’t do anything but punch. Mark: you will have trouble climbing what if it opens and closes. Tom- no not working is better

[@bigsneak4601]

Using D&D beyond you can go around the multiclass issue by setting the stat to the appropriate number to multiclass, select to multiclass then go back and change the stat back to what it actually is. But the multiclass will still be there

[@nathan4873]

Kim just wants to fuse the hostage

[@skeletalarkeus5728]

I love kim she's hilarious :D

[@bensnumber2fan227]

Ben is a good role player I think

[@necron5601]

Hadn't started the video and you made me check to see if Ben was in this

[@andrewthorpe3377]

same

[@zanthe_]

Hey, who's Ben's #1 Fan?

[@DeadParrot5]

Harvey J. Grizwald?!

[@CthulhuianBunny]

"Because it's a fantasy world, I don't imagine that plumbing is that advanced either." Have you seen the sewers in fantasy games, Kim? They make the Tokyo Flood Reservoir look like an RV park septic system! Also, Ulysses is not a Greek legend, it's the Roman name for Odysseus.

[@bookworm3696]

And that means that Ulysses told the cyclops his name was Nemo.

[@MorinehtarTheBlue]

I think she just flubbed the phrase medieval world. Not really any sophisticated plumbing or even the ability to travel there. Which is why fictional things like vast subterranean tunnels or even aur ducts in a spy movie are so ridiculous.

[@macoud12]

Call Matthew Mercer, it appears that he is canon in DnD lore now.

[@ParadoxNerdHLM]

So the team the Harper's are getting to handle this important mission is Ethan Hunt/Old Snake, Widowmaker, Junkrat/Firefly/The Joker and Doomfist/Drax

[@michaelgopin1600]

Tom What you want is a gauntlet

[@kathymckee2401]

So hyped for this love these extra ones they do there so good.

[@yodamcyoda]

Me: Can we get Doomfist? Mom: We have Doomfist at home. Doomfist at home: 1:52:11

[@Sc0ts]

sounds like dusk city outlaws

[@TheWearyAlkamyst]

Will the bombs (as ranged weapon attacks) get sneak attack?

[@mme.veronica735]

I doubt it, because it would force the enemy to make a saving throw. And it's just thrown.

[@jorgewyles3025]

@@mme.veronica735smacks an enemy in the face, dealing damage, then explodes

[@mme.veronica735]

@@jorgewyles3025 throws use strength unless the weapon has the finesse property. Bombs are bit too heavy for finesse

[@jorgewyles3025]

@@mme.veronica735 could make the bombs lighter at the cost of some damage to make them finesse weapons or have them act like bowling balls

[@quinnlee-newbury9003]

The Cyclops" name is Polyphemus

[@elderyaag3534]

God I love Tom!

[@joesalih1466]

I think Tom should have gone for the mwchanical fist. That would have been cool, and he wouldnt have disadvantage on things

[@ZoMbIeDrAcOn]

yes but tom has an obsession with making his characters have a bad flaw

[@Im-Not-a-Dog]

Fun Fact: Conan the Barbarian has at least 2 levels in Rogue(as presented by the movies).

[@quinnlee-newbury9003]

Luckyyyyy. I really wanna get that module

[@bladetytan9025]

Katie has so got to get the trick shot that gives her advantage on her attacks, using it guarantees a sneak attack if it hits.

[@lucasnicholson9443]

So we got Kim as Junkrat, Katie as Widowmaker, and Tom as Doomfist. Who would Chris be? Some sort of Zenyatta with Soldier's personality?

[@bookworm3696]

Hammond?

[@MorinehtarTheBlue]

Tom's not entirely a clear cut Doomfist. There is some elements of Winston thrown in for good measure. Kim however was deliberately trying to make Junkrat (not a bad inspiration and goblin is a great choice for it). Also I'm going to say Katie is more like Ashe minus the Dynamite and B.O.B.

[@bodkimalone]

I have a -3 Dex tortle but I can't find the char sheet.

[@stevenmckenna745]

so toms gone gold finger, with a metal left hand on his right arm.... this is making me recall a character i thought of and never used, monk(Shadow) rouge(assassin). was LE and his code was one line long, a deals is a deal. accidently signed away his freedom after acquiring it from a stroke of luck and really wants to get it back.

[@Derploop]

Mark, I'm not sure you could work out the average of 4d6 drop the lowest. Pretty sure the average rolled stat is 12.5 though.

[@bcwalnja]

I'm intrigued by Mark's choice of how to roll the dice for the six initial values. Roll four, remove the lowest, and hope for a total modifier of +6. I'm ok with this if Mark and the players are, but there are two troubles about the method that make me worry that the players aren't going to get what they're hoping for. First is that the highest score possible is 18, not 20. On a d20, this would happen 1 out of every 20 times, but on three out of four d6's this is only going to happen 1 out of every 216 times. Second is that the average of the 4 d6's is going to be around 14 most of the time (28% likelihood of 13, 14, or 15), which then will have the lowest die subtracted from it, putting most outcomes around 12 or lower. Anyway, as I said, all of this is ok, as long as players and dm are ok with it. If they are, I am too. I'm really enjoying watching the High Rollers content, so thanks for the time and effort you all put into producing it!

[@HighRollersDnD]

So you know, the 4d6 methid is the official methid from the PHB. You don't roll d20's for stats, that's never been an official rule for D&D.

[@captaincrash9002]

@@HighRollersDnD makes sense or else you could have a -1 in a stat

[@MorinehtarTheBlue]

​@@HighRollersDnD I think the summation of what they're arguing is that the odds of getting the stats aimed for are low. Not that I agree with that assessment and the idea of using the d20 to roll stats is just absurd to me.

[@robindominguez854]

wow... making a character along with this now and i have rolled 12, 11, 10, 9, 8, and 7 for stats... in that order...

[@hona6924]

Rip ill never be able to watch the stream live as it starts at noon for me, and I'm still in school at that time

[@peterosborne8315]

Is this a reupload? Edit: NVM. This is on the high rollers channel

[@bobpetterson4171]

I reckon Tom has a limb fetish😂 he made one of the cooler characters and now made him on par with Aquamamba😩 with trott playing tho, he'll make it work... I hope , looking forward to it tho❤️

[@mizt_strider8003]

no he has a de-limb fetish

[@jorgewyles3025]

Where abouts can I find the vigilante class?

[@morganwatson3346]

Here: www.dmsguild.com/product/236655/The-Vigilante-Class

[@nicolasdiaz1542]

Dms guild

[@jorgewyles3025]

@@nicolasdiaz1542 thanks

[@damonl1994]

it me forever to make my characters always struggle to choose stuff

[@rubyseverinwhitworth9066]

katie is not an elf for once

[@ijimedia]

should have had Ben

[@jamessamps235]

Ben's son how did the Ben fan club start?

[@shark817]

I agree

[@Derploop]

Wait a minute, Rhiannon 'joined us after this'. That statement contains so many fucked up timeline issues.

[@mme.veronica735]

I assume it's Rhiannon joined us after we made the deal/sponsorship so she can't join us for this because legal issues

[@thehappysealbringinggoodvi4299]

55:22

[@Addy0302]

1:11:54 I don't know what to say

[@Ekigane]

Does all the weird advice Mark give Tom get resolved by end of character creation, or are they just now home brew rules for this campaign? I just haven't seen any comments on a few weird things Mark told Tom

[@shadowmage1988]

Never personally liked guns in D&D, they are cool, but felt they unbalanced it, especially the Gunslinger class, even if early on it is pretty weak once it hits the Reload since it takes being at least level 5 to always get at least a shot off with extra attack if you had one round shot weapons. Though this module apparently does add pistols from what I saw when looking into season 8 of Adventurer's League. But those will probably just be based off the ones in the DMG, so loading property vs reload. So loud noisy guns will be in the game that I feel stealth might need to be more key for but who knows? Can't wait till I get to play Dragon Heist with my group and I can't wait to watch the episodes of this. And see how many of those dice will be burnt off the bat since it looks like they will have 50+ for the first game. So wonder if that will be the norm.

[@darrinscott6612]

Matt Mercer's gunslinger class has a lot of balance problems. I actually made a "gunslinger, revised" on the DMsGuild, which actually adheres to design principles of 5th edition, is balanced against existing fighter archetypes, and doesn't rely on an ambiguous crafting system,

[@cerberv5040]

Solid Snake - Liquid Lizard

[@MorinehtarTheBlue]

Seeing that Liquid Snake is a thing that just seems bad to me

[@Murrytmds]

Quiet was like one of the best most useful sidekicks and had a great story that I felt subverted the immediate judgements one would make upon first seeing her. Seems like a lot of the yogs didn't even bother exploring it however. I remember hearing something about Duncan just killing her off the bat and Kim not wanting to play the game because of her. Shame that. Missed out quite a bit.

[@thatguy8835]

Dang that’s a shame

[@aurinsaint9058]

It is a shame.... They complained of sexism and misogyny before understanding the character. Before realizing how badass Quiet really is. Some people....no how much we like them... (Tom and Kim) have severe blindness because they are closed minded.

[@aurinsaint9058]

@ana mc Lol! I see what you did there! Very funny! That comment gets a like from me.....very punny. :-)

[@philipwhitakeriii7971]

Hell Shot

[@daywalkerxanderfield7787]

Hate to be that guy, but Half Plate=Stealth disadvantage?

[@darrinscott6612]

Race to see who can make the most sub-optimal character. Jk, sort of. I know you guys like story and all of that, but you don't have to sacrifice story to make an effective character. For example, if you want to be a dexterous character, you might want to take a weapon other than a baseball bat. You can easily find an equally flavorful way to incorporate dex weapons. I say this because Mark isn't always a forgiving DM, and the players are going to need to be at least moderately effective, but at this point, they've set themselves up for repeated failure.

[@captaincrash9002]

it may have been a failure, but damn, was it a good one

[@maxpowell9079]

love the content

[@gamingsnake1769]

words

[@gamingsnake1769]

im back, baby

[@ONTOE0]

Uhh so their only healer is trott ,a level one bard..... there going to die.

[@mme.veronica735]

Potions, lots of potions

[@dex123sg]

Katie isn't playing an elf?

[@StilltheAp0llyon]

Nice video, but, my Lord, I didn't know it could take so long to make characters.

[@DeadParrot5]

Tom... Why?

[@ryangil4435]

Euriphedes is not pronounced that way mark xD

[@alenien7725]

What game are they hinting at?

[@sabliath9148]

Most likely Neverwinter, a D&D MMORPG.

[@simonsonlyfan8600]

They literally said Overwatch at the start though

[@DarthFetid]

tis Polyphemus be thyne cyclopes.

[@ironcladguildhand9321]

So the Standard Array costs 25 in point-buy, the average at level 1. +6 is very kind, Marky. Also, in terms of skills, you can be very good. I had a Warlock/Bard who has a +27 performance, once upon a time. The Cyclops was Polyphemus or something.

[@jamborjoakim8830]

How in the world did you get that modofier?

[@ironcladguildhand9321]

+8 to Cha. An Item that gave all my skills +1. Proficiency and Expertise at level 17ish gives +12 (Total of +21 so far), and Proficiency with various instruments makes it +27 if i'm using them. Unearthly Chorus gives advantage on Performance checks, just in case I need the overkill.

[@Khorsman87]

@@ironcladguildhand9321 you can not add your proficiency bonus twice in one roll, so you broke the rules on that one. You had a +21 which is still insane!

[@cerberv5040]

Veggielantee

[@shadowgear7032]

this broke me

[@Derploop]

ALSO Ability Modifiers start on an even number always. 1 is -5, 2 is -4, 4 is -3, 6 is -2, 8 is -1. Seven is -2. Kim maths begone.

[@baronvonangelis8272]

They did come to that conclusion... just so ya know