Higher Occupancy Tesla In The Works 👀

[@Ripsticker45]

They will build anything but a compact EV with a steering wheel.

[@theproffessional9]

Real

[@TailosiveEV]

It wouldn't be much cheaper or smaller than a Model 3 tbh

[@peterstasinaki642]

@@TailosiveEVI hope Rivian makes the R3.

[@Dr.Gehrig]

Just make the cybercab driveable and otherwise operable. That'll do. Also, give us a conventional tesla hatchback with a lower price than the 3.

[@Ripsticker45]

​@@TailosiveEV True but when you consider the efficiency potential and entry price you start to realize how nothing like this exists in the USA. Efficiencies compound. Also agreed with @dr.gehrig, that we just need a steering wheel on the cyber cab and we will be happy.

[@Guerreropowerr]

The Li auto minivan that marques just reviewed is sick

[@Nphen]

The Li Mega is awesome. XPeng MPV 9 is also really good. Chinese really know how to make proper EV vans. I'd rather have one of them as a robotaxi than those stupid gold 2-seaters.

[@jimj2683]

I agree. Quieter than an S-class and rides better than a rolls royce.

[@PeterparkerSlaps]

@@Nphen90% of rides are 1-2 people . They don’t cater to your preferences unfortunately

[@Nphen]

@@PeterparkerSlaps I'd rather spend my money on an XPeng MPV 9 (if I could get it for less than 20% tariff) than a robotaxi subscription. Commuters aren't going to give up cars for robotaxi like boosters think it will. Tesla owners assume there's a market out there, but they don't want to give up their own cars. Elon seems to want to target public transport customers, making overall transit less efficient. I used to be on board with Robotaxi, but I don't think it will really get so big so fast as boosters say. Just like finance, insurance, and many other areas in the economy where economic "rents" are destroying real growth; transit should be as much of a public utility as possible.

[@PeterparkerSlaps]

@@Nphen it’s a matter of time before owning a car would be unnecessary.

[@michelcote]

The Li auto minivan is awesome

[@jimj2683]

The one MKBHD just reviewed? It seems incredibly good. The space, seats and that it is quieter than a Mercedes S-class and rides better than a Rolls Royce, makes it one of the best vehicles.

[@Nate_G_SD]

This is why my family of five is in our Sienna. Little people come with gear and activities. Sliding doors are awesome! Second-row captain chairs to walk through to the 3rd row is needed. 7 seater Model Y is not practical for everyday use. Minivans are awesome.

[@carperdiem8754]

My wife would swap to a cyber suv asap if that happened. She has an expedition max right now

[@JEP-Tech]

I would like someone to build a more affordable electric or hybrid minivan. They have become insanely expensive. I don't know why people prefer SUVs for their families. Most people don't drive their cars off road. The sliding doors on vans is way more convenient for tight parking spaces and getting in and out of the back seats. You get the same or more storage space than a third-row SUV. They are less top heavy and can handle better. The Volkswagen Buzz could have been great, but its range is terrible and it's too expensive.

[@Nphen]

Yes. Agree to all those points. I had a Mazda 5 with sliding doors. About the size of a Model X. Just such a good form factor. Having nice seats in the middle was so amazing on road trips. The Chrysler Pacifica PHEV is nice, but $55k is pricey, considering the XPeng MV 9 is all electric and nicer in many ways. I call American style SUV Non-Utility Vehicles. They're just gas-wasting ego boosts. I'm convinced the car companies paid comedians to vilify minivans 20 years ago. They're so underrated now. I wish America had Kei trucks, too. Here's to Aptera one day getting bigger.

[@backdoormanintheend]

Since Tesla will be making more taxis for the mass market, it makes sense that Tesla will focus on low volume, specialty vehicles.

[@MJ-zo5gb]

I currently have a Honda pilot and I really like it. The model X is smaller and 80 grand… the Rivian R1S is great, but even a bit more expensive. The Kia EV9 is a good size and about 60K+ but I’d much prefer to have a Tesla or Rivian. I’ve argued this point before that part of EVs adoption problem is because there isn’t a great variety of styles and vehicle categories at manageable prices. I’ve looked at that 3 and , but they’re just too small for my needs.

[@libertykrueger1433]

Never mind all that. Just give us a large van on the semi architecture. Ditch the dual axle in the rear. Offer a low roof version 9-12 seater and a high roof extended wheelbase version for RV builders. The small pack would be good for 400-500 miles of range in the van and the large pack could be offered in the RV for 500+ miles of range or extended offgrid camping.

[@michelcote]

Model Y architecture with a minivan body would be good idea

[@CC-iq2pe]

The thing with making a mini van with the Cybertruck chassis, Tesla could get away from using steel for the shell and go with other materials. Also, many of the Truck-centric technologies could be removed for more efficient tech…smaller wheels, lower ground clearance, etc.

[@Nphen]

Just give me a Telo already. Tesla has become unfocused on quality vehicles. Cybertruck doesn't have a chassis. It really gave Tesla almost nothing other than 48v and doing a production vehicle with 4 wheel steering. I would rather buy a Model Y size truck, or a Ford Maverick hybrid. I'm so disappointed in Cybertruck. No ramp gate, air outlet, frunk outlets, mid-gate, or rearview screen.

[@nickfelstead7559]

the cypertruck van / SUV would b sick! wouldnt cost that much to alter

[@jamespaul2587]

Of course, it would be expensive to re-engineer that vehicle, and a much more efficient van platform based on the S would be a better solution.

[@yippiecalle421]

If a tesla makes a minivan it better come in an 8 seat configuration and enough trunk space to add some strollers and enough frunk space to carry more luggage. And make it AWD and good for colder weather

[@JoeGo101]

A Tesla Transit van would basically be a smaller version of the tesla semi. That would be awesome. Something that you could stand up in. After market accessories would go wild for something like this. Tesla provides the base vehicle that can accept after market beds kitchen bathroom.

[@chrisoconnell8432]

A Tesla Transit van would be awesome, but its not just a smaller semi. A semi chassi is completely different from a van chassi, mostly due to the fact that a semi chassi must be beefy AF. So they would not be able to share the same line at a factory.

[@JoeGo101]

@chrisoconnell8432 what I mean to say is make a mini version of the semi. Similar look but smaller and less beefy in van form.

[@ruslanboyko1225]

7:34 if that rendered minivan was being produced and on sale today, with lots of leg room for teenagers, and between $40-55k, and got 300 miles of range from 10-80% of battery, I’d buy it today!

[@victic2277]

Use the prophylactic to keep family size under control. Optimists will handle the low population problem.

[@clnelson321]

The skateboard concept should make multiple variations an absolute slam dunk. Get rid of the ridiculous large rims and wheels, less horsepower and put a sleek 11 passenger body on it. While you're at it, make a delivery van body for UPS, Fedex and USPS. 50 million reservations worldwide, instantly. No one needs a 4 second, 0-60 people hauler.

[@davidapatrickmoore]

Good info and fun ideas. Also I like the pacing of this video. Thank you.

[@TheDanishSpaceman]

The ID Buzz (build on the same plant that produced the Transporter for the pro audience) is SO much cooler and more utilitarian than a Kia EV9. Tesla should do an affordable Buzz competitor!! VW have understood, that a hood is a waste of space and does not make sense in the EV era.

[@joegibbs2508]

Yes especially because VW hasn't figured out how to make front storage.😂🤣

[@sxsignal]

@TailosiveEV agree, I can see them transition the Model X (he has mentioned the X may go away) into a sliding door variant (it is already a larger platform) but extending the X a little and as I'm typing this, you are discussing this lol

[@DanielFarrell]

The Chinese van MKBHD just reviewed is amazing. It's kinda embarrassing for Tesla to not even be close to an equivalent.

[@ALRinaldi]

Is there any way to extend the S/X platform into a full size 10-12 pax van without having to extend the wheelbase? Even if they can’t, I think it would probably be a good use of that line in Freemont vs S/X. Just adding one more seat vs the current X doesn’t make sense to me.

[@clnelson321]

Aircraft makers constantly lengthen fuselages for all sorts of aviation clients. The engineering for aircraft is 1000 times more involved than a people mover, so yes, it seems a no brainer to stretch any of the Tesla vehicles if desired.

[@Dularr]

Use the Cybertruck frame, but use composite panels.

[@BigJackXLT]

It's okay to agree with Elon

[@earitch5856]

@tailosiveev The lefty virtue signaling is a turn off. You don't need to signal that you disagree with Elon politically, just do your content and get paid FFS.

[@JensPilemandOttesen]

I would buy a cybervan, with all the tech from CT, but enclosed. Depends on price.

[@DavidVanderburgh]

Retired- just bought a MX. great car- but a minivan would ice the cake.

[@whiteandnerdytuba]

The guy who's favorite Tesla is a mini van gets excited for the idea of a bigger one

[@TailosiveEV]

Model 3 is my favorite

[@whiteandnerdytuba]

@ you and everyone else forgot the s was a thing

[@anunexpectedfire4062]

A reconfigured X with sliding doors seems low hanging fruit.

[@ruslanboyko1225]

With much more leg room for 3rd row. Also need 3 seats in 3rd row.

[@Nathan-ty6fd]

My opinion is Mini-Van is just SO MUCH better than SUV. In terms of cargo, passangers, comfort.... Just like them better. It's kind of stupid that they became ick.

[@IamtheDill]

I think they could use the "unboxed" manufacturing method to build a new Model S and Roadster in the same line and cannibalize the Model X line for a new Minivan line.

[@joegibbs2508]

Isn't Elon the same guy that said the Cybertruck will float and be able to cross a small body of water? Just because Elon sends a cryptic tweet, doesn't mean much.

[@jvaillancourt]

You said that Robotaxi is dependant on software that does not exist yet? Tesla is clearly counting on the evolution of the currently available FSD for robotaxi. A much more accurate statement would be that Robotaxi is dependant on FSD completion (although it is progressing fast).

[@dylanwhite6539]

I would be OK with a model X minivan conversion. I don’t think it needs to mean the death of the S though. Simply add a model X minivan option in the same vein as the modified model Y could be done.

[@hkmp5kpdw]

After that abortion of a cyber shuttle, Elon really needs a win. Add a steering wheel and two more seats to the cyber cab.

[@jamespaul2587]

Families that large often have 2 or more vehicles anyway. There's a far greater need and demand for a compact and lower priced hatchback, especĺially with incentives likely ending in the US soon.

[@NextGenEvs]

3 row CyberSUV! Just like the Chevy Silverado/Suburban for example

[@chrisoconnell8432]

I don't believe regulations will allow Tesla to have three seats in the front. Every front passenger requires an airbag, which would be difficult to do for the middle passenger if there is a giant screen in front of them. Should be less of an issue for the passengers in the back. So an 8 seat vehicle is definitely possible.

[@neroxx-zt4zs]

The global population is not declining, it is however slowing down. There will be 9.7 billion people by 2050, so I don't think there is a population shortage.

[@kof4737]

It's misleading when you say " ...software that doesn't exist yet." The software exist... the training is incomeplet.. but the software exist and is being used and improved

[@TailosiveEV]

The software necessary for it to be fully autonomous doesn’t exist

[@douggolde7582]

I want a Cybertruck, but need a vehicle with a wheelchair lift for my son. Cybervan would be perfect.

[@robertkirchner7981]

No bigger vehicles are needed. Musk believes that we should have more children. But not necessarily that we should live with them. Or their mothers.

[@OffgridApartment]

lol, wuuutt?

[@AbolishCommunism]

Hah. He's being petty towards Elon.

[@johnpaddock5238]

But accurate

[@PeterparkerSlaps]

😂

[@zandercerlong9693]

Show us on the doll where elon hurt you

[@jefftaarud6704]

Add a PS2 Gaming Controller (deep depth submarines) and that Robovan becomes a great Family Van.

[@simonlang678]

YES BUT THE MAIN COMPUTER CLUSTER AT TEXAS IS STILL NOT FULLY UP YET.

[@dylanwhite6539]

Cybervan seems a lot more plausible than a model Ydyssey

[@zandercerlong9693]

“With all the tremendous success of the R1S” ummmmm you mean the vehicle that has lost sales YOY and has never made a profit. Your bar for “success” sure is awfully low.

[@Nphen]

At 7:34 we see why Tesla should just buy Chrysler. To make a Tesla Pacifica.

[@bnight.7996]

Or even better the Tesla Town & Country

[@josephchandler4728]

Li auto mega ?

[@robbiethemann]

Nice haircut drew

[@blinkymonroe496]

I hope they do make a minivan

[@hetpeer4053]

Thats what model x had to offer minivan practicality suv styling sports car handling I think they said that when they unveiled it

[@jamespaul2587]

​@hetpeer4053 but it never offered the practicality, comfort, passenger and cargo space of a minivan.

[@bnight.7996]

I think someone took a minivan and shrunk it but engineered it to kinda work, instead they should have taken the Ford Club Wagon with almost a bus full of benches and shrunk it to fit on the model x platform with sliding doors and wide enough to fit sheet rock in the black flat on the floor. We love minivans because they are all about hauling family and doing family projects without needing 5 vehicles.

[@ZaneMouakket]

It'll be called the minirobovan

[@hetpeer4053]

@@jamespaul2587 well too bad I don’t expect them to make a bigger car than that unless its one without a steering wheel and turn signal stalks

[@theplouf5533]

"Underpopulated" ?! (sorry in advance, it's a bit political) I'm French, can someone explain to me what this means? I understand the idea of ​​having children, almost everyone wants their life to "serve a purpose" even if often being useful to someone remains acceptable and not just a kind of selfish behavior as some claim. I can understand that from a certain point of view, some think that only their children learn from them because they only see them and only help them. (paradoxically it sounds selfish) But in this case, I don't really see what this means ideologically. Does Elon really consider that the planet is "underpopulated" (whatever that means...)?

[@stevendunn264]

With the average occupancy of 1.7 people how many people need a 7-9 people auto? They might sell 1 for every 1 million model 3.

[@TailosiveEV]

People buy them regardless if they need them

[@zandercerlong9693]

“I have my issues with elon” you dont know the man how can you have an issue with him. Lay off the SOY and get your testosterone up

[@MOBMJ]

the model S and X should also be built in China. Since there is a huge market also for them there. I don't know why Tesla doesn't do it but. Tesla will lose a lot of loyal customers if they ever stop the S and X. I am saving up for a model X, its my dream car. so is a lot of others. if they stop it, I'm not buying a Tesla.

[@KineticEV]

Tesla is also watching the release of the Lucid Gravity and the pending Cadillac. While none of these will hurt Tesla's market in a significant way, they do add a level of competitiveness. The Gravity is is going to be about what the Model X cost but with a larger third row, more range and most likely on the 800v architecture. The Cadillac and any GM variant will look like a traditional large SUV and that will appeal to those who don't like the looks of the Rivian or Tesla. Yeah, Tesla is all in on autonomous but I don't they're anywhere close the Level 4 or 5. They're not even Level 3 at this point given the issues with FSD many of us are having using it on our day to day drives.

[@tompava3923]

Dude. Yer livin in the past!

[@Derpy1969]

Never believe a thing Elon says.