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The Electric Viking

The Electric Viking

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@electricviking
@electricviking Ай бұрын
The best solar company in Australia just installed my new solar system. Check them out here: www.resinc.com.au/electricviking
@surfntrucks
@surfntrucks Ай бұрын
Stop trying to push Aptera on Americans. It’s an investment money pit. Americans don’t want small cars.
@RussianThunderrr
@RussianThunderrr Ай бұрын
-- You forgot to mentioned, that Aptera, not only one of the most technological, but also one of most beautiful US motorcycles...
@rare_wubbox360
@rare_wubbox360 Ай бұрын
On this one i do not agree with you. Neither does Tesla.. and i bet you they know better than both you and me how the cybrcab should be made
@AdrianMorris-g7o
@AdrianMorris-g7o Ай бұрын
The people who are making this vehicle seem really good and into it I hope they succeed
@tom0kiely
@tom0kiely Ай бұрын
I doubt they’ll succeed. I really do hope they will but even Rivian is struggling. Apart from state sponsored Chinese EV makers only Tesla managed to survive long enough to grow and that was against all the odds.
@LJ-jq8og
@LJ-jq8og Ай бұрын
They are FRAUDS... WTF UP !
@lanzer22
@lanzer22 Ай бұрын
I honestly think they don't have what it takes. I wanted to place an order for one back in 2011. Now they're still not ready for full production. A company moving this slowly is highly unlikely to succeed.
@farmerfarmerer3847
@farmerfarmerer3847 Ай бұрын
@@lanzer22 Absolutely correct. What did musk famously say? “Mass production is hell”
@johngee777
@johngee777 Ай бұрын
Unfortunately I must agree. They originally started in 2006. They failed and tried again in 2021. Almost 4 years later and $135 million dollars and not even 1 production car.
@ThalanorThornhale
@ThalanorThornhale 3 күн бұрын
How did I miss this video? Awesome coverage of the Aptera. More updates on their progress in the future please!!!!
@patrickcorcoran4828
@patrickcorcoran4828 Ай бұрын
Aptera is classified as an "Autocycle" not a "Motorcycle" in the USA. The distinction is important if you are getting an insurance quote or looking up your state laws. I'm also a reservation holder and really looking forward to full production.
@75Chopin
@75Chopin Ай бұрын
If insurance is cheaper this is also a +
@vic321344
@vic321344 Ай бұрын
Autocycles ARE motorcycles. They also lack any safety standards necessary for a car. ENERAL ASSEMBLY OF NORTH CAROLINA SESSION 2015 HOUSE BILL 6 RATIFIED BILL H6-v-3 AN ACT TO DEFINE AND REGULATE AUTOCYCLES. "Passenger Vehicles. - a. Autocycle. - A three-wheeled motorcycle that has a steering wheel, pedals, seat safety belts for each occupant, antilock brakes, air bag protection, completely enclosed seating that does not require the operator to straddle or sit astride, and is otherwise manufactured to comply with federal safety requirements for motorcycles. a.a1. Excursion passenger vehicles. - Vehicles transporting persons on sight-seeing or travel tours. … d. Motorcycles. - Vehicles having a saddle for the use of the rider and designed to travel on not more than three wheels in contact with the ground, including motor scooters, autocycles, motor scooters, and motor-driven bicycles, but excluding tractors and utility vehicles equipped with an additional form of device designed to transport property, three-wheeled vehicles while being used by law-enforcement agencies and mopeds as defined in subdivision d1 of this subsection." You can make up your own definitions, but they have no legal meaning.
@vic321344
@vic321344 Ай бұрын
@@75Chopin Insurance will be very expensive.
@tims8603
@tims8603 Ай бұрын
In most states. A few states classify it as a motorcycle.
@robertkirchner7981
@robertkirchner7981 Ай бұрын
@@vic321344 Anything can be built to a higher standard than required by law.
@davidbrayshaw3529
@davidbrayshaw3529 Ай бұрын
I've got to say, I do love this vehicle. I hope they make it to final production.
@Blessedmantoday
@Blessedmantoday Ай бұрын
thx man. For taking that trip to check out this amazing vehicle 😀😎 Blessings from Norway
@chrisbarrett2512
@chrisbarrett2512 Ай бұрын
As an investor I wish to thank you for your support. Your analytical thinking is refreshing. I would prefer to have Aptera remain independent, let Tesla develop their own CyberCab, without buying out Aptera. The way they have set up the assembly line has been aided by Sandy Monro, with the idea of simplifying the process as much as possible. Yes, it is revolutionary, beyond Tesla, as it becomes the next best thing. My Prius gets a very good amount of distance out of the gasoline I put into it, about 55 MPG, but the Aptera will more than likely be rated in the 330 miles per gallon equivalent. No more stinky gasoline, or exhaust. All those who like to breathe clean air will be beneficiary from this new way of doing things, with a sporty agile vehicle that will be fun to drive. Best wishes to you and yours and thank you for your support of Aptera!
@keelferm
@keelferm Ай бұрын
I completely agree with your analysis about the logic and inevitability of this vehicle. Love your enthusiasm... obviously I share it!
@hardcoreherbivore4730
@hardcoreherbivore4730 Ай бұрын
It’d be an awesome car for Australia. Thanks for spreading the word.
@vic321344
@vic321344 Ай бұрын
Aptera is a motorcycle and it cannot be registerd in Australia.
@joeblue2492
@joeblue2492 Ай бұрын
I also ordered it so would be good to know why .
@vic321344
@vic321344 Ай бұрын
@@joeblue2492 It is too wide. and in Australia especially also to long for a motorcycle.
@hardcoreherbivore4730
@hardcoreherbivore4730 Ай бұрын
@@vic321344 FUD, it would be classified as a 3 wheeled car. Just like the Morgan 3 wheeler.
@vic321344
@vic321344 Ай бұрын
@@hardcoreherbivore4730 No, it would be classified as a 3 wheeled motorcycle. Read your legislation.
@greenbergp
@greenbergp Ай бұрын
Yah, Glad you made it to Aptera. Great Video as all of yours are.
@teklife
@teklife Ай бұрын
i hope they can scale the production on these, sell them at an affordable price and make good profit at the same time, and that the demand for them just grows and grows. these are great, next level EVs.
@larrye6778
@larrye6778 Ай бұрын
27 grand for 250 range 35 grand for 400 mile range
@oggyoggy1299
@oggyoggy1299 Ай бұрын
They wont be able to scale them. They wont be at an affordable price. These things are a novelty that’ll be sold in ultra-low numbers.
@LittleBoobsLover
@LittleBoobsLover Ай бұрын
@@oggyoggy1299 they are making a production line where they said - it can be modified to 2 shifts.
@johngee777
@johngee777 Ай бұрын
They may not make it too production at all. Lucky I only spent $70 US on my pre-order. I was really excited about this but now I don't believe they'll actually pull it off. It could actually be an elaborate scam.
@garethrobinson2275
@garethrobinson2275 29 күн бұрын
​@oggyoggy1299 This doesn't fill me with joy, but it is the likely outcome, unfortunately. The default state of a car company is dead.
@ariisaac5111
@ariisaac5111 Ай бұрын
Wow, love the design and concept and practicality of this car especially for urban applications and robot taxi. Great in-depth coverage of this one, Mr Viking, keep up your great work.
@DemaGeek
@DemaGeek Ай бұрын
Glad you are here and able to visit Aptera again Sam. I hope you and your family are having a good time!! Love your work and content, thank you!
@Carl_in_AZ
@Carl_in_AZ Ай бұрын
I have been to their facility three times and enjoyed the ride when Chris whipped it around the corners. I look forward to seeing one in my driveway someday or at Barret Jackson Scottsdale.
@nas4apps
@nas4apps Ай бұрын
The guys come from boat building and even got Sandy Monroe involved (an investor/advisor). Re-invent everything! Really cool indeed! Wonder when it arrives in the market...
@paulpuckett1320
@paulpuckett1320 Ай бұрын
As an early shareholder, I'm so pleased that you did this video to set my mind at ease that I made the right decision for buying into Aptera.
@SudhirSingh-rk1jk
@SudhirSingh-rk1jk Ай бұрын
Awesome, loved your passion and enthusiasm in this episode. Congratulations to Steven for creating a wonderful vehicle, absolutely free from external power sources. Wishing him luck to create longer range vehicles in near future.
@vic321344
@vic321344 Ай бұрын
A roadworthy production prototype does not exist. Since 2009.
@eriksleeuwenhoek2206
@eriksleeuwenhoek2206 Ай бұрын
It can be charged from the grid like any other EV. Base model gets 400 mile range on a full charge.
@BlindedByLogic
@BlindedByLogic Ай бұрын
Aptera has the potential to be the future of industry, could be amazing if it comes out and is anything close to what it was promised to be. Really hope it succeeds.
@Mrbfgray
@Mrbfgray Ай бұрын
Nope. Impractical for most folks, limited storage, tricycles totally suck and solar is near useless on a car except for camping. And it will be too expensive. Cute college project tho.
@IdiocracySpace
@IdiocracySpace Ай бұрын
1000 miles of range. Looks like the future. Free solar energy. Cheaper than Teslas. Bonus: fits a surfboard in the 7 foot long trunk. Wahpow
@yourlogicalnightmare1014
@yourlogicalnightmare1014 Ай бұрын
Yes, a 3 wheeled 250 lb bicycle will be very safe on freeways 😂
@Anonymous------
@Anonymous------ Ай бұрын
​​@@Mrbfgray Agree. If China doesn't produce something like this then it means it isn't practical and it doesn't have a big market. Good high school project though. 😂
@Mrbfgray
@Mrbfgray Ай бұрын
@@Anonymous------ I wish them success and if miraculously they can build them for say $40k USD? They'd have something, not anything I want but some will. Be surprised if they ever build for less that $100k/copy even cheap and crude as the demo rig seemed to be.
@jckelley10
@jckelley10 28 күн бұрын
I look forward to seeing these on the road!
@joeblue2492
@joeblue2492 Ай бұрын
You’re totally right . Solar charging gets you 70 km per day is Australia. I ordered one also and brought shares
@trevorlees1241
@trevorlees1241 Ай бұрын
I do t think it will ever be made in any numbers since as Elon said it’s 1000 times more difficult to mass produce than prototype which is easy
@vic321344
@vic321344 Ай бұрын
@@trevorlees1241 And Aptera was not even able to build a single production prototype since 2009.
@artsmith103
@artsmith103 Ай бұрын
70km is 43 miles. There is a lot of confusion about Aptera solar miles claims. It appears they mistakenly over rated the solar with enthusiasm to match USA stat that avg person drives 40 miles/day. Then Aptera reduced solar distance to 30 miles/day but that was slyly for very sunny Carlsbad with 6 peak equivalent hrs/day of sun. Most of USA will be less than 21 miles/day using those numbers. You'll have to sort out your personal Australian situation.
@vic321344
@vic321344 Ай бұрын
@@artsmith103 You will be glad to gain 6 miles per day with solar, which you will spend twice at once with the aircon you need to cool down the overheated vehicle.
@alldecentnamestaken
@alldecentnamestaken Ай бұрын
I'm really rooting for Aptera. If they make it to market I'll definitely buy one. Ideal vehicle for around town.
@chriso847
@chriso847 Ай бұрын
I’ve had one on order for over a year. Not sure I can keep waiting. May need to buy a Tesla or Mach-E. Wish they could build these.
@boballen9095
@boballen9095 Ай бұрын
Thanks Sam for the update on manufacturing, and changes between versions. This is exciting.
@nas4apps
@nas4apps Ай бұрын
Less than a ton, super low aero, solar power generation, low wheel resistance, super strong, very fast, solid handling, sleep in the boot sized boot, up to 1000 km range (depending on battery). For how much? Seems like a winner to me, so I also pre ordered years ago ..... ;).
@ednitsche8188
@ednitsche8188 Ай бұрын
I’m always learning something new from your videos. Can’t wait to get one of these vehicles for most of my daily driving.
@pioneervajo
@pioneervajo 29 күн бұрын
maybe in 10 years LOL, sorry, i love the concept , but they are now YEARS talking about aptera, but they only have 2 or 3 prototypes.
@Karmabim123
@Karmabim123 Ай бұрын
An electric vehicle that makes sense at least in some sunnier countries. I hope they succeed and put them into full production.
@Joes_Morgue
@Joes_Morgue Ай бұрын
@@Karmabim123 For the average EV owner, solar would always make sense. If the panels can collect 10 miles a day, that is one quarter of their driving needs. There's that company that makes a solar cover, and based on their numbers, they will give you less than 2 miles a day with their cover. Because of their cost, it's not worth it. It will not pay for itself. I did the math, and it would take a little over 13 years for it to pay for itself,
@vic321344
@vic321344 Ай бұрын
Solar on vehicles is useless. There are 2 magnitudes difference between theoretical yield and needed power to drive. And if you let your vehicle stand in the sun the whole day, you will need more than the days solar yield to cool it down again
@Joes_Morgue
@Joes_Morgue Ай бұрын
@@vic321344 Cars sit in the sun all day. He was not talking about driving strictly on the solar, he's referring to putting the solar into a battery, extending the range! For the average driver, driving less than 40 miles a day, 10 mi worth of electricity means every 4 days, he gets a free day worth of fuel. Because of the size, and shape of this car, the energy needed per mile is way lower! They're claiming 40 miles per day, I am making my comments based on 10, because of limitations of solar. With a range segregation of 30 miles per day, assuming an actual 40 mi commute, you get eight days on a single charge. That means 80 mi worth of solar, or two free days on every charge. If you live in a climate where you get 30 miles a day, that is 25 days before you would use up that charge. At that point, you would have another 75 days worth of fuel, so your losses will be practically nothing. At that point, you can practically drive for a year, without having to plug the car in. The problem is, that is asking a lot for averages.
@1swaggy1
@1swaggy1 Ай бұрын
Sam I was thinking of getting a CanAm Sea to Sky 3 wheeled trike but this vehicle is far superior in every way. No doubt it will have aircon and every mod convenience. Loved your presentation.
@tims8603
@tims8603 Ай бұрын
Those CanAms aren't cheap. Plus, they're open air so rain and cold are a problem. Yes, Aptera will have AC, heat, 2 airbags and seat belts. It will also have a steel roll bar in the roof.
@vic321344
@vic321344 Ай бұрын
@@tims8603 Therefore you can drive the Aptera motorcycle without a helmet.
@barrythomas6429
@barrythomas6429 Ай бұрын
Obviously not an paid advertisement.
@casylong8383
@casylong8383 Ай бұрын
Obviously not an intelligent post.
@gathonar
@gathonar Ай бұрын
I totally agree with your point in this video.
@electricviking
@electricviking Ай бұрын
Thanks Mate!
@TomMoench
@TomMoench Ай бұрын
The 1000 mile range version should more than handle a day of robotaxiing with real time solar charging as well. Plus it could navigate to a Tesla wireless charger. The problem I see is not range but the lack of FSD thus requiring a driver and room for only one fare. Don’t know how the economics would work.
@larrye6778
@larrye6778 Ай бұрын
open pilot will be intergrated into gui
@IdiocracySpace
@IdiocracySpace Ай бұрын
@@TomMoench I would buy an Aptera to drive it. Forget FSD until you need it. I have it and it drives like my mother in law and I don’t need that kind of stress 😅
@oggyoggy1299
@oggyoggy1299 Ай бұрын
This thing is as good as dead. 1,000 mile range - my ass! I’d never buy one or invest in the company. It’s the Betamax of EV’s.
@vic321344
@vic321344 Ай бұрын
And who would plug in? Aptera motorcycle just loads with 50kW. So the 1000 mile variant (that was never built) would block a supercharger stall for over two hours.
@CiaranMcHale
@CiaranMcHale Ай бұрын
I vaguely recall articles indicating that most taxis travel 100 or 200 miles in a typical day, so a 1000 mile range vehicle is not required for robotaxi's use case. The use of solar panels to provide 30 or 40 miles of range per day means does not prevent the need for charging from the grid, and it will save only a few minutes of charging time. I don't see how that slightly faster charging time will justify the extra expensive of installing the solar panels. In essence, it looks like a nice car and it will suit some people, but I don't see anything in its design that makes it more suitable for use as a robotaxi than Tesla's robotaxi design.
@rodneylast2651
@rodneylast2651 Ай бұрын
Great show thanks from NZ.
@vanrozay8871
@vanrozay8871 Ай бұрын
The big issue with Aptera is: will they ever actually make it? So far, not enough money to go into production. I agree it's a great vehicle, but only if we can buy it.
@John-p7i5g
@John-p7i5g Ай бұрын
Exactly. The Sono was also a great solar car that never saw the light of day.
@IdiocracySpace
@IdiocracySpace Ай бұрын
I waited 2.5 years for the Model 3. 5 years for a Cybertruck. And 6 years for FSD.
@kennethlau2034
@kennethlau2034 Ай бұрын
How long does it take to the real production?
@vic321344
@vic321344 Ай бұрын
@@IdiocracySpace And now you can buy them. Aptera was not able to produce a single roadworthy production prototype since 2009.
@Utoko
@Utoko Ай бұрын
As Elon Musk says: "it's easy to make a prototype but extremely difficult to mass manufacture a vehicle reliably at scale".
@donaldwiller9238
@donaldwiller9238 Ай бұрын
Cool stuff thanks for showing 👍
@geoffshelley2427
@geoffshelley2427 Ай бұрын
Sam, the Tesla RT has more in common w the Aptera than less. Both are carbon monococks. Both are designed w efficiency in mind (though Aptera more so).
@vic321344
@vic321344 Ай бұрын
Aptera is no monocoque. It as a standard aluminium frame with glued on panels. More like an F150.
@geoffshelley2427
@geoffshelley2427 Ай бұрын
@@vic321344 ??????? what? Am I misunderstanding? Perhaps monocock isn't the accurate term. It's true it uses some aluminum framing, but the most part of the body is carbon fiber, something like 4 pieces that are adheased together. Or is Aptera lying?
@vic321344
@vic321344 Ай бұрын
@@geoffshelley2427 Aptera completly changed their concept. They planned to produce the body like a boat hull with vacuum forming. easy, cheap, fast. Then glue the 4 pieces together and ready. This is the way all exisiting prototypes are made. But that did not work. The italian engineers seemed to convince Aptera, that a boat hull will not be able to withstand the forces of a vehicle on the street over a period of time. So now they use a structural aluminium frame and glue the panels onto it. The panels are not structural anymore. That concept is more like an F150.
@jimmanley7153
@jimmanley7153 Ай бұрын
@@geoffshelley2427 - it’s spelled “monocoque”, which is French for “small dick” … I mean “one chicken” …
@Stan0619
@Stan0619 Ай бұрын
Amazingly Informative THX
@danieldornes8416
@danieldornes8416 Ай бұрын
The trunk [boot] space appears wide and long, but extremely shallow.
@charlesbeane8795
@charlesbeane8795 Ай бұрын
Good eye. They need that long tail for aerodynamics. That long unusable space is just a bonus.
@markfinley3703
@markfinley3703 Ай бұрын
@@charlesbeane8795 It is big enough that I could lay down in back and sleep in the car. It is a stealth camper!
@jamespaul2587
@jamespaul2587 Ай бұрын
​@markfinley3703 nothing stealthy about this vehicle, it draws more attention than exotic cars 😊
@Ralphie419
@Ralphie419 29 күн бұрын
@@jamespaul2587 - I agree. And because it's such an attention-magnet, I think it needs a camera-based security system to document/prevent vandalism like Tesla has. Once it has the surround-view cameras, I'd like autopilot or fsd capabilities too.
@LorenzoAngelucci-k3o
@LorenzoAngelucci-k3o Ай бұрын
Love this guys, would buy immediatly that car if i could
@pepps779
@pepps779 Ай бұрын
Tesla is simply reusing vehicles they already manufacture for their 'Robotaxi' project, so the premise of them purchasing another company to get a new vehicle design, that they do not truly need, makes little financial sense.
@gr8dvd
@gr8dvd Ай бұрын
Purchase would be to acquire Aptera’s IP (patented technology), the vehicle itself is based on a 1/2 century old design…. actually Morelli aerodynamic shape circa 1950s. IP curved, impact-resistant solar panels and controllers to effectively handle variable solar gain… very different in moving vehicle vs. fixed roof panels with occasional cloud cover.
@matzpeters6753
@matzpeters6753 Ай бұрын
Wow! Wish i had known about this company earlier.
@b.robinson206
@b.robinson206 Ай бұрын
In my humble opinion, I think they should go ahead with the plan to produce something like 60 vehicles in 2025. They need to just get the ball rolling on production, and then hopefully let a car magazine or two test the production vehicle to show a larger audience what their vehicles are capable of. Then they should go straight for the IPO route. I think it was a good idea for them to go with pushing an IPO as the last option instead of the first. I don't know about anyone else, but I think this small firm will succeed and grow at an exponential rate.
@niceguyrides
@niceguyrides Ай бұрын
So they should just jump right to conning the public out of their investment money, instead of private investors… lol
@b.robinson206
@b.robinson206 Ай бұрын
@@niceguyrides Your point is moot. If they were in it to con people, they could have done it years ago. But all the recent steps (Vitesco motor swap, CPC Group making molds, buying equipment to produce something in a real physical building, letting people come in and see what's going inside the building, etc.) would point to the efforts of a REAL start up. If it's a con, it's sure a stupid one. They could have went with an IPO 1st then ran off with all the loot. So why haven't they?
@vic321344
@vic321344 Ай бұрын
Aptera already changed the date to 2026.
@vic321344
@vic321344 Ай бұрын
@@b.robinson206 Because they only provided empty promises?
@b.robinson206
@b.robinson206 Ай бұрын
@@vic321344 After producing about 60 for customers in 2025 if all goes to plan. Telling half the truth is almost like telling a lie, on your part.
@nospamallowed4890
@nospamallowed4890 24 күн бұрын
The Aptera is extraordinarily promising. I hope they get to full scale production in the US soon and that it lives up to the promise both in function and price. Two years ago I started researching my next car, fully expecting it was going to be an EV. In the end I ended up with an ICE, but if it had been available to take home 6 months ago I would have probably bought an Aptera instead.
@John-p7i5g
@John-p7i5g Ай бұрын
This would be awesome for Australia. This thing has insane acceleration too.
@vic321344
@vic321344 Ай бұрын
The Aptera has a mediocre accelleration for a BEV and it cannot be registered in Australia. And it is a deathtrap in case of an accident.
@John-p7i5g
@John-p7i5g Ай бұрын
@@vic321344 zero to 100 in 4 seconds lol. Not a death trap, that’s the whole point.
@vic321344
@vic321344 Ай бұрын
@@John-p7i5g Mediocre for EVs. Laughable for a motorcycle. And it is a deathtrap in case of an accident.
@hardcoreherbivore4730
@hardcoreherbivore4730 Ай бұрын
@@vic321344 This is a novel design, so you can somewhat be forgiven. I’ve seen the models, it deflects in most crash scenarios. Validation is not far away, I’d be more cautious if I were you. That’s if you cared about facts, or your own word.
@jimmanley7153
@jimmanley7153 Ай бұрын
@@John-p7i5g- zero to 100 what? Kms/second, I assume, since Sam is from the mystical Land of Oz. I think a ‘roo can jump faster than that!
@gaetanguimond7213
@gaetanguimond7213 Ай бұрын
Very good video Viking, thanks
@electricviking
@electricviking Ай бұрын
You are very welcome!
@echoeversky
@echoeversky Ай бұрын
Imagine how many they could make if they could aluminum cast the body in white.
@super-k1078
@super-k1078 Ай бұрын
Aluminum's not very strong it would probably end up splitting in half.
@stillinthestream
@stillinthestream Ай бұрын
Very cool, great to see it going through the motions. I hope they will sell into Canada.
@wulfdean
@wulfdean Ай бұрын
I believe this is the real future of electric cars, the solar power model
@vic321344
@vic321344 Ай бұрын
Solar on cars are useless. There is a difference of 2 magnitudes in what you can expect as yield and what you need to drive.
@peterbland7227
@peterbland7227 Ай бұрын
I’ve been following Aptera for at least 14 years. I hope they can get off the ground and be a profitable business.
@farmerpete6274
@farmerpete6274 Ай бұрын
14 years! Wow, you must have faith.
@rogermckenzie2711
@rogermckenzie2711 Ай бұрын
Oh, I wish....
@mawhim
@mawhim Ай бұрын
Yeah, like the idea, but good luck dodging potholes, no straddling them. Hope that rear wheel is easy to change.
@TheDapperham
@TheDapperham Ай бұрын
Hey, I really enjoyed your report. Thank you. Aptera is taking efficiency to the next level and developing a clean transportation solution. You'll soon find that Aptera is a troll magnet, the haters are as passionate as we belivers. But I'll be driving #142 by early 2026, and I can't wait for the silence from the trollholes. Keep up the good work, I like YOUR ideas, man.
@vic321344
@vic321344 Ай бұрын
Aptera is an aerodynamic motorcycle, but the components are not at all efficient. They are outdated technology.
@netscrooge
@netscrooge Ай бұрын
I agree. I can't wait for the trolls to be silenced.
@vic321344
@vic321344 Ай бұрын
@@netscrooge Silencing is the only way to argue for the mentally weak.
@jimmanley7153
@jimmanley7153 Ай бұрын
I really feel sorry for your severe case of delusion that you’ll receive anything in 2026. They still haven’t convinced even one billionaire to plunk down $60,000,000 in “lunch money” that’s supposedly needed to start production of one unit, let alone much, much more to build even just 142 of them.
@L3nny666
@L3nny666 Ай бұрын
Impressive! I know this is still not the completely finished product and the goal is to make it as light as possible, but I'd still put some sound insulation in there, because it sounds pretty squeeky and cheap.
@ronfarnsworth7074
@ronfarnsworth7074 Ай бұрын
It's a prototype, no sound insulation. Not much would be the same for production. Chassis, body, drivetrain, solar, battery, etc. All will be different.
@Rick_Cavallaro
@Rick_Cavallaro Ай бұрын
It really should be fusion powered. Both will become available at the same time.
@DileepaRanawake
@DileepaRanawake Ай бұрын
This looks so cool. Feel like as a point to point daily runner this would be great. Means you don’t need to worry about solar for the ROI to make sense. We’re in the uk and unfortunately our roof size and orientation means poor solar generation so we’d need most for the house. Something like this would be great
@BillMitchell-lm8dg
@BillMitchell-lm8dg Ай бұрын
This has the aerodynamics of a *weather vane* - making it point toward the blast of air coming off the fronts of trucks in the adjacent lane. The gust will push against the rear wheel fairing and get compressed between the road and the underside of the "whale tail", reducing rear tire traction. If the road is wet or gravely, or if the rear tire is improperly inflated, or if there is luggage in the back - the loss of rear tire traction threatens. That single rear wheel and its influence on traction and rear body aerodynamics will be this car's Achilles Heel.
@jasonhochstrasser8657
@jasonhochstrasser8657 Ай бұрын
It also has good side to side aerodynamics, so won't suffer the suction and push one gets when passing a semi truck in a typical vehicle.
@niceguyrides
@niceguyrides Ай бұрын
@@jasonhochstrasser8657it will be more susceptible due to its light weight… ever ridden a motorcycle.
@tims8603
@tims8603 Ай бұрын
You don't understand aerodynamics. Aptera has done many computer simulations and even real wind tunnel tests. The car is, basically, designed in a computer.
@niceguyrides
@niceguyrides Ай бұрын
@@tims8603 you don’t understand the vacuum effect that’s created next to a semi truck. Has nothing to do with aerodynamics.
@tims8603
@tims8603 Ай бұрын
@@niceguyrides It has everything to do with aerodynamics. What do you think suction is?
@BAC_Mono
@BAC_Mono Ай бұрын
I’ve ordered one as well although I’m not sure when they will be sold in the UK. One problem is that it’s too wide for the U.K. where the limit is 2.2m IIRC. I hope they find a way to solve this though
@JaceTran
@JaceTran Ай бұрын
Ordered an Aptera 3 years ago, still no sign of production
@IdiocracySpace
@IdiocracySpace Ай бұрын
My non foundation Cybertruck order just became available - after ordering 5 years ago.
@SAYID697
@SAYID697 Ай бұрын
A lot of respect, yet the difference between 'It's gonna be...' and 'It is...' is like that between Lucid Air and Tesla.
@marquetryman
@marquetryman Ай бұрын
Absurd to think that this 3 wheel motorcycle would be an adequate Robotaxi
@Gustubru
@Gustubru Ай бұрын
I 100% agree with you this brand deserved to be known as it truly try to solve the clean mobility issue. All other EV are for the moment way too heavy to be considered efficient
@bobwallace9753
@bobwallace9753 Ай бұрын
A NYC or LA taxi drives about 200 miles per day. 40 miles on a nice sunny day won't help a tremendous amount. If it would, Tesla would have put panels on the robotaxi roof.
@garywozniak7742
@garywozniak7742 Ай бұрын
The Aptera only uses 100wH/mile. It's much more efficient than the robotaxi. So between charging and thr solar charging...
@IdiocracySpace
@IdiocracySpace Ай бұрын
Aptera’s range is 250-1000 miles. Solar is just gravy.
@75Chopin
@75Chopin Ай бұрын
NYC Taxi 200 miles a day? It basically sits in traffic burning fossil fuel. With aptera it charges while stuck in traffic! Actually gain range in traffic. 250 miles range is more than enough
@vic321344
@vic321344 Ай бұрын
@@garywozniak7742 Solar on vehicles is useless. Sono Motors and Lightyear already went bancrupt over this weird idea.
@udishomer5852
@udishomer5852 Ай бұрын
@@75Chopin Ehh... There are few sunny days in New York City and even in those the car will be shaded by buildings for at least half the time. The average charge would be 10 miles a day at most.
@calc1657
@calc1657 Ай бұрын
Great video. The car at $30,000 isn't a form factor that will appeal to many buyers for personal use. I do like the idea of the car being used as a robotaxi.
@niceguyrides
@niceguyrides Ай бұрын
This car will never be 30K without massive losses…
@teklife
@teklife Ай бұрын
it really would be smart for tesla to either invest in or buy aptera
@vic321344
@vic321344 Ай бұрын
Why should Tesla want a three wheeled motorcycle that is wider than a Hummer H1?
@farmerpete6274
@farmerpete6274 Ай бұрын
I can't think of any reason why Tesla would want to go near Aptera - its a death trap on wheels.
@Ralphie419
@Ralphie419 29 күн бұрын
I'd love to see some outfit with cash-to-spare investing in a variety of electric transportation products that might have a chance if only they had a bit more money. Tesla says they are all about increasing the number of sustainable vehicles on the road. But, they know that investing in themselves is a surer bet than shoveling that money at someone else. So I don't think they will ever invest in or buy out any other car company.
@sanfelipedoug
@sanfelipedoug Ай бұрын
Minute 3:38 I once owned a Sebring-Vanguard Citicar. Supposedly the highest U.S. production electric car prior to the Nissan Leaf. Weight 591 Kg. I very much enjoy your channel, just a friendly fact check.
@larzlarz1140
@larzlarz1140 Ай бұрын
This is deliberately made as a 3 wheeler so that it doesn’t have to meet car safety standards. If Tesla made a robotaxi like this, it would be a huge liability problem because people will get significantly worse injuries when these get into accidents, compared to cars.
@davidbrayshaw3529
@davidbrayshaw3529 Ай бұрын
In Australia, three wheel vehicles are considered as motorcycles, I believe.
@vic321344
@vic321344 Ай бұрын
@@davidbrayshaw3529 Yes they are. And the Aptera motocycle cannot be registered in Australia.
@TheBooban
@TheBooban Ай бұрын
@@vic321344you can’t have 3 wheels in Australia?
@davidbrayshaw3529
@davidbrayshaw3529 Ай бұрын
@@vic321344 What prevents them from being registered as a motorcycle in Australia?
@andromedach
@andromedach Ай бұрын
the poor Aptera fanboys were convinced that Tesla was going to validate Aptera's choice by making the robotaxi a three wheeler. Now they excitedly claim that because Robotaxi was a two seat vehicle it somehow supports Aptera. Ignoring the fact Aptera is now over $40k
@petecunningham47
@petecunningham47 Ай бұрын
Thanks for this review! I put my reservation several years ago and also at the time was thinking how great it would be if Tesla bought the company, especially given the need for capital to get the production going. If it wasn't for FSD I would consider this as a replacement for my 2018 M3 LR. I'm retired & single, so traveling with only 1 passenger seat is no problem. With the higher efficiency charging sessions would be shorter too! A winner all the way around, although not for those who need more seats.
@johnrosner8964
@johnrosner8964 Ай бұрын
One of the reasons why the apter will not make a good robo robotaxi is you don't have the power to operate the self driving computer with just solar, you need batteries bigger batteries than what the Aptera uses by far. Plus if you get in a crash in an uptera, you're pretty much going to die if you get in a crash in a robotaxi, your chances of survival are pretty good. Tesla makes some of the safest cars in the world
@larrye6778
@larrye6778 Ай бұрын
aptera will have 42 kilowatt for 400 mile range .62 for 600 mile range and 100 kilowatt for 1000 mile range.
@garywozniak7742
@garywozniak7742 Ай бұрын
@johnrosner8964 Aptera is a battery EV with 700 watts of onboard solar that are like a trickle charger thst can provide up to 40 miles of charge per day. It has an NACS charge portvin the back and can be plug-in charged.
@IdiocracySpace
@IdiocracySpace Ай бұрын
Stay in school kids
@vic321344
@vic321344 Ай бұрын
@@larrye6778 Just empty promises, no real data available.
@budgetaudiophilelife-long5461
@budgetaudiophilelife-long5461 Ай бұрын
🙋‍♂️🥶SAM ,YOU GOT TO VISIT AND DRIVE IT,LOVE THE PROGRESS ⚡️⚡️⚡️
@bobwallace9753
@bobwallace9753 Ай бұрын
I wonder what the insurance premiums will turn out to be. Think about all the times someone is going to clip a wheel outrigger and drive off, leaving the Aptera owner holding the bag.
@IdiocracySpace
@IdiocracySpace Ай бұрын
The insurance payment on my Model X Plaid is a crime scene. Apteras are way cheaper.
@larrye6778
@larrye6778 Ай бұрын
no different then any other car
@christophers707
@christophers707 Ай бұрын
Insurance won't touch this thing. Tesla had to start their own insurance company, This thing uses exotic materials and the aluminum skin to dissipate heat no service or support. You would have to be mad to buy one outside the area they make them and a complete moron outside the country. Not to mention this this has been 2 years from production for how many years?
@vic321344
@vic321344 Ай бұрын
@@IdiocracySpace How do you know? There is not even a raodworthy Aptera prototype existent. Since 2009-
@vic321344
@vic321344 Ай бұрын
@@larrye6778 Aptera is a deathtrap in case of an accident. And they are not able to test the vehicle for 2 years in different szenarios. So you can expect horrendous insurance payment.
@normang3668
@normang3668 Ай бұрын
6:43 Chris answered one of my biggest concerns here: The width of the window split. Sounds like it'll be less of an obstruction in the production model.
@charlesbeane8795
@charlesbeane8795 Ай бұрын
It's still quite wide and centered in your eye line.
@mrblurleighton
@mrblurleighton Ай бұрын
I absolutely love the Aptera, but this car being so technologically advanced is exactly why it shouldn't be used as a robotaxi. It's expensive AF, and that's probably why Aptera and Sandy Munroe's people are still working on it. That aero efficiency is overdone for a slower moving city vehicle. And solar panels are an unnecessary added expense. When for every watt of solar added to the car you could probably add 10x that wattage to your depots for the same cost, and never have to worry about damage or shading in the city. Tesla's robotaxi is a stripped down and easier to manufacture version of previous Teslas that uses cheaper parts where it makes sense. It has no rear or roof glass etc, and you can see that even the wheels are classic wheels just with painted tires and plastic aero hubcabs. That's how they plan to hit such a low unit price, and it also makes them more durable and cheaper to repair using standard parts, and low skilled technicians.
@SugarRushTimes2030-gs3qp
@SugarRushTimes2030-gs3qp Ай бұрын
The ideal EV for city living with minimum charging availability. Also perfect for tropical islands, Africa and Australia where there’s plenty of sun and a reasonable work commute. The price is right and I wish a billionaire would invest in this company, it really is the EV of the future
@GeoFry3
@GeoFry3 Ай бұрын
This is what it should have been? Vaporware? That company has been bilking investors and teasing customers for decades.
@Lazarov_Tweevles
@Lazarov_Tweevles Ай бұрын
Shhhhhh!
@niceguyrides
@niceguyrides Ай бұрын
EXACTLY!!! Just enough to keep the cash rolling.. see Rivian and many other EV startups.
@TheBooban
@TheBooban Ай бұрын
@@niceguyridesbut Tesla is doing the same thing. By now, the model 3 and Y appear to be accidents.
@niceguyrides
@niceguyrides Ай бұрын
@@TheBooban Listen to yourself… the Model 3 AND Y are accidents… please. The Cybertruck selling more trucks this years that all other EV truck makers combined? Tesla have actually made multiple products that are successful and designed to be production ready. ALL of this has been in the plan written by Musk himself from the beginning. They started top down, not trying to make a 30K vehicle from the start. The Robotaxi is a clear vision of the future where during the vehicle you are in will be as antiquated as dialing a phone. And every model 3 will be able to do it. No accident. Just clear REALISTIC vision and competency.
@udishomer5852
@udishomer5852 Ай бұрын
@@TheBooban Model Y in the number one car in the world in terms of sales... So stop spreading bullshit
@DigbyGrayston
@DigbyGrayston Ай бұрын
city parking, is usually in covered carparks...NO SUN. So there is a weakness there for inner city
@mydogsbutler
@mydogsbutler Ай бұрын
Love the channel but you are way off on this video. Solar isn't going to cut for a taxi that gets heavy use. You need long range and quick charge time. And aerodynamics at the expense of cabin space limits type of cab fares too.
@IdiocracySpace
@IdiocracySpace Ай бұрын
Apteras option up to 1000 miles of range.
@garywozniak7742
@garywozniak7742 Ай бұрын
The Launch Editon has a 400 mile bater and it can DCFAST charge about 250 mile of range in 30 minutes.
@mydogsbutler
@mydogsbutler Ай бұрын
@@IdiocracySpace I still think a 2 seater is less than ideal for cab but if a 1000 mile range is true, then me bad. Has the range been independently verified?
@830118
@830118 Ай бұрын
Taxis usually do under 400km per day. The solar is thin and just an add-on which provides extra savings. Most taxi rides have 2 or less passengers. For higher, they could take a different type of taxi. No point having a four seater for one passenger. It is all about being efficiency.
@IdiocracySpace
@IdiocracySpace Ай бұрын
@@mydogsbutler Well it’s the ideal manufacturer rating. Our Tesla’s range real world was off by 20%. So plan range anxiety accordingly.
@dg5433
@dg5433 Ай бұрын
I had an Aptera screensaver on my computer many years ago when they were first announced. From memory it was around the time the very first tesla open top sports car appeared. I think they were even offering a hybrid version with a small petrol generator range extender. I thought they had dissapeared. Cool vehicle and I hope they can secure the funding as from the looks not a lot has happened in the last decade.
@jjamespacbell
@jjamespacbell Ай бұрын
The power required to run Tesla's AI system would be more than the Aptera panels could generate. So no use as a RoboTaxi.
@tomardans4258
@tomardans4258 Ай бұрын
Well I’ve pasted a link twice. Tesla FSD Chip consumes 36 watts. Nvidia’s consumes 1,000 watts.
@hardcoreherbivore4730
@hardcoreherbivore4730 Ай бұрын
HW4 uses 160 watts, while a loaded Aptera produces 700 watts. Certainly would affect range though. Still, future models could adopt FSD. Openpilot for now, but that’s okay.
@IdiocracySpace
@IdiocracySpace Ай бұрын
Apteras run on batteries. Solar is just free sprinkles 😂
@vic321344
@vic321344 Ай бұрын
@@hardcoreherbivore4730 In reality you will be glad to load the Aptera battery with 200W on a sunny day.
@hardcoreherbivore4730
@hardcoreherbivore4730 Ай бұрын
@@vic321344 In reality, nobody winning in life follows the development of a product they don’t like. We’ve been through this before.
@RomanChaar
@RomanChaar Ай бұрын
hopefully US Capital raises what they need
@stevesilsby5288
@stevesilsby5288 Ай бұрын
I placed areservation for an Aptera back in 1971. Back then I thought they might be serious about manufacturing this vehicle. I no longer think so. By 2006 tey imagine they might be buildng 3 to 4 of them per day. Really? My reservation number is up in the 20,000s, and they don't start making them for reservation holders until all of the johnny-come-latelys who paid a bundle to leapfrog us with "reservations" to buy an early production Foundation Edition. Just how many decades before I have the chance to purchase one? Try never. By the time they start real production Tesla and others will have advanced well beyond Aptera in concept, build, and lower price and Aptera will be bankrupt.
@hvxcolors396
@hvxcolors396 Ай бұрын
Are you sure you placed a reservation for an Aptera in 1971? The founders were still kids at that point.
@Cool-gk8mc
@Cool-gk8mc Ай бұрын
Tesla is too busy developing PowerPoints for Disney animatronic type robots and fake driverless cars that are simply autopilot.
@tims8603
@tims8603 Ай бұрын
You're FOS.
@infochannel392
@infochannel392 22 сағат бұрын
I think eVTOLs may be a disruptor to the transportation space even knocking robotaxies out of the running.
@richardshultz6834
@richardshultz6834 Ай бұрын
Its not a factory, a factory builds things.
@reggie5989
@reggie5989 Ай бұрын
It looks like they will succeed. I hope it come up north to Canada because I would love to have a go in one.
@bluetoad2668
@bluetoad2668 Ай бұрын
Their excuse for not making the cars was they had too many orders? That doesn't make sense. It's not a good reason.
@NackDSP
@NackDSP Ай бұрын
As an investor this is a very sad story. They keep refining the beautiful prototype car rather than going into production. They should have just put on a forth wheel to create a more simple standard design and got on with designing a factory. Creating a working car factory is a huge project. Designing a prototype car is a project that 10 - 20 new college graduates can do. Lamborghini isn't known for designing products for economical mass production. It looks very doubtful this will ever get into production. I wonder if I can sell my stock?
@vic321344
@vic321344 Ай бұрын
As an investor you should know, that you invested in a motorcycle, not a car.
@kenw.4539
@kenw.4539 Ай бұрын
Sam seems very bullish on the product. Let's hope his sentiments translates into mass production.
@vic321344
@vic321344 Ай бұрын
@@kenw.4539 Since when do you pay for mass production with sentiments? Go and tell Lucid, Rivian, VW, GM and Ford.
@donaldbrown9976
@donaldbrown9976 Ай бұрын
​@vic321344 : From what I've heard, Aptera is planning a full series of government crash testing. Given the shape of the car and the materials used, theoretically the Aptera should be as safe as a conventional car.
@chrisbarrett2512
@chrisbarrett2512 Ай бұрын
I will offer to buy your stock, at $5/share.
@billwarren8076
@billwarren8076 Ай бұрын
Thanks for the update Sam. Like you I have a reservation, but expect RHD models to be low on their priority list. Questions for them the next time you visit: How will they manage some of the overseas compliance issues (like in Aust must have rear view mirrors, not cameras, and front numberplate must be vertically mounted without a cover).
@tims8603
@tims8603 Ай бұрын
Aptera has side rear view mirrors as well as cameras. Side view mirrors are mandatory in the US.
@restfulplace3273
@restfulplace3273 Ай бұрын
Fun idea, not practical. I’m surprised anyone fell for this
@toddpossum
@toddpossum Ай бұрын
Great concept car
@JboKit
@JboKit Ай бұрын
Viking please stop the BS, you wouldn't have a clue what Tesla knows that you don't. You're way over your ski's mate, pull it back a bit
@TheChr3880
@TheChr3880 Ай бұрын
I like the product. I do believe the price point will be a problem for them though. I will be very impressed if they can sell it for 30k
@NYCCEJ
@NYCCEJ Ай бұрын
Great video, glad you were able to visit the factor and meet the team. Although there have been many delays to Aptera production, once it is on the streets it will be a major step towards transforming the private transportation towards a greener future.
@ElmarBon
@ElmarBon Ай бұрын
Cyber cab will probably also be relatively efficient, because of low weight. And they could add a decent amount of solar on the roof because there is no rear glass
@Ralphie419
@Ralphie419 29 күн бұрын
I'm dubious about putting solar panels on taxis. Especially urban taxis. How often in New York, Chicago, and other densely-packed cities where taxi use is high does the sun reach the side of the street you are on? Taxis are a business, and businesses don't care much about the cool factor. They look primarily at ROI. If the solar doesn't pay for itself, it won't be on the taxi.
@martinwhatman5027
@martinwhatman5027 Ай бұрын
I was going to pre-order the Aptera. I would like to buy one when they get to Australia. The BinC chassis is made specifically for a LHD vehicle. They have to re-tool to make RHD. It will be released much later than the initial LHD (USA) release. I'm waiting for the RHD Aptera which will have all the bugs ironed out. For me this is an aspirational car that I'm keeping a close eye on. Cheers.
@a5-30-31cts
@a5-30-31cts 9 күн бұрын
The Electric Viking riding the Gamma!!!! Yes!!!!
@smulbe
@smulbe Ай бұрын
Thank you for an interesting video. The car's width is not very suitable for urban environments, so Tesla's Cybercab is probably preferable. Which car are you talking about regarding boot space, Cybercab or Aptera?
@polok890
@polok890 Ай бұрын
My Ride1up turris e bike uses 1/5 hp, 40 miles of range and goes1200 miles for $3. Order one and it will be at your door in a week. $1,300
@HablaCarnage63
@HablaCarnage63 Ай бұрын
I want one to replace my aging Chevy Volt.
@roberthartsing6673
@roberthartsing6673 Ай бұрын
I invested in Aptera but there slow roll out and now over priced in today market I can buy a model 3 that drives itself.
@GWAForUTBE
@GWAForUTBE Ай бұрын
I totally agree. I was expecting a 3 wheeler 2 seater.
@travisjazzbo3490
@travisjazzbo3490 Ай бұрын
I prefer the seating (side by side for passengers), utility, safety, cost, stability, handling, and pricing of normal cars, whether Tesla, others, or any that China is making. This is more efficient, but that is the only advantage of it
@michaelramsey3643
@michaelramsey3643 Ай бұрын
It's a really interesting car, but I do not like the yoke. Just give it a flattened top half, similar to the bottom.
@dr.sustain6754
@dr.sustain6754 Ай бұрын
This car is so amazing. Good that I preordered as well.🤩 Your idea with Tesla is also really good. But I am not sure whether Tesla is wise enough do buy in. They could learn from each other very much. Also noice damping and crash simulation. 🤓
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