She was taken in the night? | UNSOLVED Case of Belinda Williams | Million Dollar Murders

Despite a coronial inquest and an extensive investigation, Belinda William's murder remains unsolved. Victoria Police present new information that Belinda may have known her killer.
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[@cporchman1]

This is heartbreaking listening to her mothers last wishes

[@kerryharding6463]

I hope they get cold case investigators on to it, she and her family deserve justice !

[@alisonwonderland8680]

It was defs someone who knew her and was annoyed with her. A one-off murder, not a serial killer. I'm thinking it's the ex-partner so he could get full custody of the daughter.

[@johannas.l.brushane2518]

Or the friend who had a boyfriend who had hit on her. Risk is she had heard about it but in a reverse way of what happened from the bf, that it was Belinda who had made a move on him. Not sure if it was the same woman who offered to stay with the daughter so she wouldn't have to stay with the dad. I thatis also a strange thing to offer when at the time there seemed to be an amicable separation.

[@kerryharding6463]

No one else really has a good motive except him, he would have got someone else to do it so he had an alibi….

[@dropbear9526]

@@kerryharding6463 Home alone isn't an alibi Just sayin. Could have been anyone of the suspects.

[@fifimsp]

@@kerryharding6463 Agreed Kerry. The other thing is that they moved the body. It seems like a father thing to do. "Don't want my daughter finding her!" Dad of the year!

[@jr7845]

I feel Belindas ex is responsible, his behaviour was very odd, my heart goes out to her Family.

[@jaccusefashion]

well he had plenty of time to clean up the house didnt he? I think he got wind of her having a new boyfriend and couldnt let go,

[@sheilacamp5089]

Everyone would have to know that you never let anyone in a crime scene. It appears it was done intentionally.

[@Gloria-ro4vn]

Possibly, but actually you'd be surprised just how many people, even today, are totally clueless when it comes to crime scenes. Remember, her body hadn't been found yet, murder wouldn't have crossed their minds. They'd be thinking she went for an early morning walk, fell and sprain her ankle, someone will find her.

[@FLOSSYTREADWELL]

@@Gloria-ro4vn She went missing from 'home' h o m e = crime scene or last place seen known to be president. so only place to find clues. YOU may be surprised at how many are clueless & with those giving them ridiculous excuses as you have, then no wonder murderers get away with crimes. Esconsing themselves into crime scenes & spreading their DNA so it's bound to be there. Anyone doing that should have been arrested as a major suspect.

[@techlife9853]

Feel so sorry for this ladies mother and brother ....how awful that these poor people dont know who murdered their daughter ... I hope that one day soon the police find out who comitted this henious crime - Hopefully DNA testing will shed light on this case ....RIP Belinda Williams

[@FLOSSYTREADWELL]

Slammed the phone down left seething. The child knew to call him first... was his number left handy?.... Body removed away from child.... Never called to report missing for over 6 hours. he didn't want to sell up & share & pay child maintenance. So many motives including immediate anger on board. Nobody else had any of those motives or reason to remove her from the house.

[@melinaesposito3434]

She sounded like a great girl, I am hoping that the truth will eventually reveal itself and Belinda's murderer is eventually brought to justice.

[@katarzynamariamuszynska2811]

Usually it's nice girl ,loved by her family with young child ,with ex bf or ex husband he wanted get back together with Belinda and perhaps was jealous that she getting on with her life and is happy with new guy And someone who she knew and was comfortable been in her dressing gown

[@finni-h2x]

I wonder if the little girl was unsettled because on some subconscious level she was restless cause she knew something was going to happen....they were really close..🤷‍♀️..

[@bettydamnboop3030]

Debra Wallace is a force to be reckoned with

[@geordiemark7901]

terrible for the young ladies daughter and family to go through, the ex hubby why did he wait until 2pm to inform the police and when did he inform the young ladies mother and brother ???? also the item on the dirt road was for someone to find the young lady thats why it was placed there, also no 4 and 5 the problem i have here is this, to place the young woman where she was found it either took a very strong man to take her down that hill into the ditch or it took 2 people to do it, I wouldnt use a lie detector test on all 3 of them id use an eye test they have now they have them in the uk so am pretty sure if australian police asked am sure they would get one and this will tell the police who done this drastic thing on an innocent young lady and robbed her daughter of a mother, a grandmother of a daughter, a brother of his sister, I hope this is solved for the peace it will bring to the poor young ladies family and friends

[@beaulieuc8910]

exactly

[@katarzynamariamuszynska2811]

Well ,it's might be odd that he informed police so late ,mention daughter called him around 9 am And if she was responsible mother ,would leave young daughter alone in the house ,and if the intruder hurt the mother ,he could also hurt the daughter He must take the mother out of the house ,acting quiet to not disturbed the daughter , Person who had most reasons probably is ex partner been jealous she doesn't want to get back with him meeting another man , But how long is long enough to inform the family ? but it get concern that mother just get out in her dressing gown leaving young daughter alone ,that makes you think something happened to the mother

[@deborahharris2962]

Nice brother Belinda had. Very sad.

[@cN-xv7ju]

Just heartbreaking 💔

[@lisadolan689]

Love this show

[@grneys45]

David has mean eyes..

[@lanagalbraith6542]

My mother was murdered a week before my sixth birthday. It changes who you are...

[@jillholloway4586]

I am so sorry to hear that Lana.. that is devastating for you. 😢

[@beez5338]

Cleaners didn't want people to think Belinda was (past tense) a bad housekeeper...

[@kerryharding6463]

Mmmmmmm, I don’t know about that ……

[@marypatterson471]

I don't read that statement as past tense.

[@Kari.F.]

When we mention something that happened years ago, we always use past tense like her brother did there. I reacted to the same piece of the story, though: They were cleaning a likely crime scene "because they didn't want people to think she didn't keep a clean house"...!?! That's a really bizarre thing to do, and an equally bizarre explanation for why they did it. That guy had made a pass at her on a couple of occasions, and it sounded like she had rejected him quite bluntly. Based on the information in this program, this guy is BY FAR the most suspicious to me! If 4 and 5 have broken up since, I'd interview her again.

[@drofnats1962]

A good Crime documentary for me has to include maps, It give you a much better perspective of the surroundings and distances between places of interest.

[@TheVeek192]

Go look it up. People are so lazy.

[@drofnats1962]

@@TheVeek192 I always have google maps open ready and waiting, but I shouldn't have to do that. Nothing to do with being Lazy, makes a much better viewing experience for the viewer.

[@beaulieuc8910]

@@TheVeek192 It makes a better documentary. Some people on social media have no manners

[@beaulieuc8910]

@@drofnats1962 agreed. Sorry you that that narcissistic comment earlier.

[@rileytaylor108]

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[@saturnanthony3542]

@@erikjung5062 You're right

[@saturnanthony3542]

But I don't know why people remain poor due to ignorance

[@pure.bengal1224]

@@89sweet25 Speaking of investing, I know I am blessed if not I wouldn't have met someone who is as spectacular as Mrs Ellie white

[@pure.bengal1224]

Mrs Ellie gave me profits of over $67,000 U.S dollar

[@josephwilson7960]

@@pure.bengal1224 wow!! you know her too?

[@WorldPeace-AdamNeira]

I watched all of this from 01.20 to 03.00 CET Thursday 29/12/2022. I watched it again, recording a transcript and making more notes/deconstruction from 18.15 to 20.15 CET Thursday 29/12/2022. This adds to my very extensive file on the case compiled since 17/8/1999. Prayers for Belinda. P.S. Peter Jackson's 2009 movie based on Alice Sebold's 2002 book "The Lovely Bones" is an interesting film because it refers to the relationship between a cold case murder victim in heaven and the living and the importance of truth and justice in the grand scheme of things. It's a very metaphysical movie.

[@danielnoah453]

This is a great series, but the commercial breaks every five minutes are just annoying.

[@miriam2909]

Heartbreaking....

[@dianneD27]

Enjoy this series .

[@techlife9853]

People need to help this family ...help them create a Podcast .... help them with Social media ...create a CONSTANT Media storm to continually hight light this crime until the criminal is caught

[@TheVeek192]

People don't "need" to do anything. If you WANT to help, do it. Don't sit at your keyboard an blab about what other people "need" to do.

[@patmcstuff671]

That investigator doesn’t fill me with confidence

[@TheVeek192]

Oh, geeze, thanks for letting us all know that.

[@dianneD27]

Very very weird those people went into her house. Very weird. I don’t buy the what do we do to help line , everyone knows not to do this . I’m going for ex

[@johannas.l.brushane2518]

Thinking the same, aside of the ex maybe. I think it's off to offer up to look after the daughter as well so she wouldn't to stay with the dad when the separation was amicable. I wonder if the guy who hade made some move on her had told his gf, who was there at the time, a reverse story, suggesting that Belinda had made a move on him. As I understood it they had rented the hose previously so I guess the would be familiar with the layout and such. I think it was totally unneccesary for the policeofficer to excuse the cleanup with "normal behaviour". It's like in the Springfield three where police have recieved a lot of criticism for "not doing enough", probably by the same gang of people who went there and started to deep clean when they saw the house was so messy and strange things they threw away, like a brokennpatio light by the entrance, which may have had traces if someone broke it just to have them come to open the door to switch the bulb. Going there to see whether she is really missing and to make sure she isn't laying injured somewhere is not strange but starting a masdive clean at such time, now matter how messy it is is somewhat beyond plain ignorance.

[@luckyspurs]

45:15 That bit just broke me.

[@chryseluna1648]

The brother said there were 12 people in her house but only mentioned 4. The 4 everyone’s eluding to being the potential killer. Her body wasn’t found until 11 days after her murder does the rate of decomposition match? I’d never hangout with a person whose partner tried to crack on to me, that’s just me. Who needs the bs in their lives, not me Take care Belinda’s family 💕 To all else, don’t do complicated friendships/partners

[@alisonwonderland8680]

I thought the rest were police etc.

[@johannas.l.brushane2518]

@@alisonwonderland8680 No, the police arrived later. Then the scene was ruined.

[@johannas.l.brushane2518]

Agree. I would be suspicious of the other girlfriends knew and if and how the gf of the guy was presented to it. If Belinda rejected him he could as well have said to his gf the same story but in reverse, that Belinda had made a move on him. It's a bit like Springfield three where a bunch of people arrived to "wonder what to do" and starying deep cleans. I don't think there is a reason for police to wrap silkpaper around what problems that cause. In the "Springfield three" the police have unjustly recieved criticism for not coming to any conclusion, probably by the very by the same "*frienly* cleaning people who remembered towing aaway" strange things they found" like a broken patio light by the entrance etc. There was a case recently in USA where a girl was murdered by "friends" who had bought into a fantasy that she had been with someone of their boyfriend.

[@chryseluna1648]

@@johannas.l.brushane2518 I watched someone cover that, either coffeehouse crime, or 10tolife, one of the many crime YT channels. I’m gob smacked at humanity, so many detached people

[@johannas.l.brushane2518]

@@chryseluna1648 I think that That Chapter was the channel where he specifically pointed out the criticism about the policework being very unjust since the friends who had been there had cleaned up so very well. I suppose police in that case also being a bit sensitive about criticizing the clean up. Ok, if you're an amish never having seen even an episode of a crime series or read a newspaper of a crimecase, a grown up would know some about policework and how they proceed. But, Belindas friends were likely not amish if they were there for a glass of wine.

[@eileencameron1510]

The neighbour dude,a crawl space under the house,telling the brother dogs didn’t make a sound then A day or so later telling the police the dogs barked for 2 hours starting at 2 am,that it was unusual for the dogs to bark like that.Then-following the brother are the house almost like to see if the brother found anything even under the crawl space,sounds like a total creep.While the ex looks intense,i really don’t think he leave his daughter in the house with the back door open,,if indeed the back door was left open?R.I.P. Belinda.I pray the fami gets the justice they all deserve 🙏☮️💜💜💜💫love from Vancouver island Canada 🍁

[@arendeepropertymaintenance]

Ok. 45 minutes later and we are no wiser.

[@TheVeek192]

If you'd never heard of the case, the show enlightens you. Get real. You're not the only one watching. Instead of saying "we," just say "I." Speak for yourself only.

[@rupatiwari5923]

Absolutely 💯 agree

[@eileencameron1510]

Yea the family doesn’t know why should you,they put these cold cases out to respark the individuals involved and maybe someone will come forward w information to find the killer,not for your enjoyment of a show!hello.Compassion goes a long way,collective compassion for Belinda and her family,for heavens sake☮️🙏💜💜💜

[@k.jlmfharrington3437]

Every fibre of my being is saying David did it 😈😇😢

[@theranjithjay]

1999- Near Ballarat Australia- I came across this case only today on Google on 10/12/2022- While the daughter slept her mom Belinda Williams was murdered sixteen years passed without a killer caught. Belinda was dating a man named David and Belinda had a daughter by David. The two separated and David had access to their six year old daughter. In 1999 the daughter couldn’t find her mother Belinda so she rang her father David. Eleven days later a bushwalkers found Belinda’s body and informed police. Belinda had been strangled to death. At the time Belinda was murdered she had left David and had been seeing a man named Norman. It’s now 23 years since her murder.

[@sandralauzon9416]

David looks like Anthony Perkins of Psycho Fame

[@trinafirey1175]

Sounds like the ex to me!

[@sarzib3246]

Either she’s just wandered off🖕 Stupid Police. Get the dogs out right from the beginning!! Why the delay?

[@wldcrd26]

they searched the entire area she was found 11 days later it appears she was dumped after the search finished

[@kaleighcasterline1221]

I just read her mother just passed and never got answers

[@c.h4178]

I hope this poor mum n daughter finally gets some answers🥀

[@jeanniemarkech351]

DNA testing is probably the only thing that may solve this case. Personally, I think it was her ex-partner.

[@dropbear9526]

Most people think it was the ex, or suspect 4 and 5. I'm leaning the other way towards the person that lived across the road.

[@samanthadodd8112]

Witness 5 was going to be in the car with belinda for hours the next day, alone. Belinda could tell her all sort of stuff. Maybe Witness 4 wasnt so happy with that. I know i would be worried if i was him. Also, i think someone came in with the key. Odd she had a gown on and still have large earrings on. Changing and taking off jewelry are all at the same time, so i think someone came in the middle of this. Also, what time was witness 5 supposed to pick up belinda the next morning?

[@emilymatthews3499]

Why are they saying the daughters identity is subject to a suppression order? Her name and photos are all over the internet.

[@wldcrd26]

they need peoples permission to feature them in the episode maybe the daughter didnt want to be in it

[@sudonim.]

There can be a suppression order in place and the name can be floating around the internet. The country I live in for example suppresses alleged perpetrators last names. You will see only that Bob B. was arrested etc. If the story is widely publicized you see sources outside the country full on out the names because they arent held to the same legal obligations. They had 1 child, and her families full names are known. It wouldnt be that hard for an armchair detective to find her name and publish it for all to see.

[@katarzynamariamuszynska2811]

Why they clean the house? Weird

[@lamh5265]

What happened to forensics? It seems wittness 4 may have spoken to someone at work. Belinda was the type, possibly, who knew who she was and what she needed. Someone far weaker in mind and psychology wanted something from her and for her to submit. She said no. They will get their just deserved recompense.

[@serenaleaghgrace5023]

OMG ,,,,SAD SAD SAD

[@katrinabanks7291]

What if the person was already in the house. Her friends left at 9.30pm perhaps the person was already there... perhaps that air was what caused her Daughter to be unsettled.. are the police thinking laterally

[@guardianangel8462]

Touch DNA on the blue evidence.? Would love to know what new DNA techniques have been utilized to date…Prayers to the family🙏

[@Gunsrgreat4all]

The killer wanted her body found.

[@Nugget28]

My instinct and history says the ex partner Allegedly

[@TheVeek192]

OH, well, let's for sure follow your instinct. Lame.

[@naughtyskyline]

does anyone else think the brother is a little overprotective, even jealous of the ex? is it just me that the brother seemed a little infactuated with his sister? maybe just me

[@mandywalkden-brown7250]

It’s just you.

[@bradleyearp9903]

Witness 5 killed Belinda, confessed to witness 4...then they connived together to Clean things up...

[@TheVeek192]

shut up

[@kerryharding6463]

Strangulation also means that there is no blood & leaves less dna !

[@Firecracker66]

🙆🙆‍♀️🙆‍♂️

[@therooffairy5979]

I was told who did this but maybe it's just local Chinese whispers but the story I was told was very matter of fact. I cant recall the name as I hadn't heard it before but this person by this account had told people about it.

[@carltongirl95]

First off where is Adam Shand ?...this is extremely sad I feel for Belinda's family it must be horrible not knowing who and why...the one thing that my mind keeps coming back to is Belinda's new boyfriend stayed in the house (with Belinda and her young daughter) for 5 week's before heading back to Melbourne...and the weekend of her murder she was going to Melbourne to stay with him...I believe her ex was upset that this new man was getting closer to his daughter and it scared him...we already know the night she had her friend's over she was on the phone and he hung up on her...anyhow those are my thought's RIP Belinda I truly hope her family gets the closure they need 😥

[@scoldedcat]

Yes, where is Adam Shand ? This new woman doesn't cut the mustard.

[@buzzybeemee4254]

cadaver dog would have solved this murder...bumbling police..love to tell story but not solve any.

[@1888.cfc.]

Can no longer suffer the Ads. Every couple mins. Terrible

[@janetpendlebury6808]

Use an ad block, I had no ads in my viewing.

[@1888.cfc.]

@@janetpendlebury6808 Dunno how to.

[@noelinerenwick5347]

@@janetpendlebury6808 cost money

[@scotishjohn]

Dont you have addblock free download

[@alisonwonderland8680]

No ads for me 👍🏻

[@sushanart]

🩵🙏🙌

[@christinetrianta9185]

Without a shadow of a doubt her ex is responsible

[@susantaylor9923]

Because you drag it out and it is not fair to your viewers so I will not watch it.

[@GenX1968]

I think David did it. If he did that’s pretty cold blooded. I mean if he did, he took a risk leaving his daughter there, but he would have had to to not throw suspicion on himself. And what’s with Australians calling a wind breaker a wind cheater 🤦🏻‍♀️

[@baronchita1652]

THERE IS ALWAYS A WOMEN ON THE FLOOR

[@oceans9687]

Police need to open their minds and employ a good psychic who works with police to solve murder cases and missing ppl. This could have been solved at the time if they would use psychics who are proven to police.

[@janabramer6094]

Psychics do not hold in a court of law.

[@johnniethepom7545]

Oceans , and I suppose you're volunteering your services free of charge ?

[@janetpendlebury6808]

Maybe use the same psychics who claim to have found the Beaumont children? What the police need is for everyone involved at the time to tell everything they know and not withhold information.

[@oceans9687]

@@janabramer6094 Using a good psychic is nothing to do with holding up in a court of law. Period. Police who use good psychics know how this works.

[@oceans9687]

@David Anderson If the case hasn't been solved then obviously it's not that simple.