Hikoki MULTIVOLT Brushless Table Saw - 10 inch 254mm 36v C3610DRJ(H4Z)

[@danielstraka17]

One of the advantages of battery table saw might be the brushless motor. You never get brushless in corded saw motors ( one phase AC ). Brushless is more efficient, lasts longer without any service, should vibrate less and be less noisy...

[@davetaylor4741]

My table saw is an early 80's elu flip saw. Never use it as a drop saw any more but used to years ago. They are an amazing old machine and will rip some big timber without any difficulty. One project I needed stacks of 50 x 5mm pices of hardwood. I made my own reverse fence and bought several lengths of 200 x 50mm. Hours later a lot of thin lengths of wood and it didn't miss a beat. Equally as happy ripping trim. Sheet stuff these days track saw.

[@OZToolTalk]

thats awesome!

[@oystercovecraftsman9219]

Elu tgs172. I reckon it is the best drop saw ever made. Mine is 36 years old, and is still cuts perfectly square and 45 degrees

[@JV-bt5fo]

The out-feed fence should have two little screws that go back into the ends of the tubes after they have been inserted, this will atom the fence from pulling all the way out @11:30

[@aessu]

The BSL36B18 batteries (4.0Ah 36V ones) do have 21700 cells, and a much higher power output than the BSL36A18 (2.5Ah 36v) ones. You can tell them apart from each other just by size.

[@OZToolTalk]

well shit, i didn't even know they existed! Hikoki really shouldn't have sent some with the saw I think. Probably would have gotten better power !

[@neilewen338]

@@OZToolTalk Small batterys give around 1080w of power bigger batterys make a big difference closes to 1600w of power in these.

[@MarkRaker]

@@neilewen338 Hikoki 8/4ah are 1440 w, Metabo 5.5ah used in their 10" table saw gives 1620 w......of course this is at the individual cell nominal voltage of 3.6v, so fully charged new batteries at around 4.1v per cell will see these wattage numbers rise even further. I guess we all gotta become battery experts nowadays!!

[@SeanCleverly]

Great review boys, as always, clear, in-depth, and well presented.

[@OZToolTalk]

Thanks Sean!

[@baseballdude8491]

Hikoki also just introduced the first 1/2(full sized) 36V Router

[@OZToolTalk]

Indeed! We'll be playing with it soon!

[@geertmoesen7049]

Ordered this one Januari 9th to be delivered in March. Unfortunately it got postponed until September maybe October... Had great plans with it but the delay was very disappointing!

[@OZToolTalk]

dang! Covid is killing fun everywhere :(

[@mkarafi1]

Hi Oz Tool Talk Team Can we please have an Cordless Table Saw Head to Head review? Im really keen on purchasing a Table Saw in the near future and would love to see a battle of the brands to determine the way to go. At this stage I am dedicated Bosch with a sprinkling of DeWalt, so would be good to see these options in there. Cheers Matt

[@OZToolTalk]

I'm sorry Matt, I don't see that in our future any time soon.

[@lewisalexander]

I come from a cabinet saw background but due to a workshop rebuild, went cordless. I'm between Bosch Professional and Hikoki here in the UK. my current table saw is the Bosh GTS18v216, Initially loved it, but there are problems. whe it arrived, it wasn't fine calibrated and because of trying to get the workshop back up and running, at the time I wasn't really bothered about precision cuts, but now I'm working on a rather unique project, the saw is letting me down in a few aspects. and going cordless is a particular need. yes I realise that cordless saws aren't designed for precision, more for the job site, but this hikoki sounds interesting. Is this using a standard thickness blade or a thin kerf? Thin Kerf aren't so easy to get in the UK in certain sizes and blade profiles. I do have to admit, 10" would be a huge help but I'd like to know a few things please. Firstly, is the rip fence rack and pinion or like the bosch, just slide out? are the mitre fence slots standard 3/4" size or unique? Some bosch models like the GTS10XC have their propriatry channel for the sliding rail and no third party mitre fence will work, there are a good number of complaints and cases about this saw in it's design. (sorry, bosh) Is the blade angle rack and pinion? Does the rip fence stay parallel to the blade or is there any drift error? if so, can it be adjusted?

[@swempthebemp]

Be great to see hikoki giving away the ac adapter via redemptions (or even dropping the ridiculous price) like they have in America. Maybe you could suggest it? Nice review guys

[@woodpecked3D]

The Metabo HPT version of this saw is only $699 Canadian and the plug is $199 & The fully corded version is only $649 Canadian Dollars

[@mranonymous8979]

2.5ah batteries drained so fast ripping 90x45. I did 2 rips at 2.4 and battery was done.

[@baseballdude8491]

Why would I use a 2.5amp on a 10" monster?

[@mattrmcintosh72]

@@baseballdude8491 watch the video. Same battery "multi-volt" 2.5ah for 36v. 5ah for 18v. 2.5ah (36v) for stronger cutting with less run time.

[@OZToolTalk]

yep sounds about right. it really doesn't like ripping studs....

[@baseballdude8491]

I have the 4amp/8amp they are readily available and. Have double the run time and are the one that come with the kit. The 2.5/5amp. Are for hand tools

[@steveb611]

Great review u still recommend saw

[@OZToolTalk]

haven't used it much since the review sorry, but it's a solid tool for sure!

[@Therealphantomzero]

ok I understand the power question here, and I did notice in the comments, about the battery, so what battery did you guys use, was it the smaller 2.5 ah @36v battery? or the larger 4 ah i think at 36v, i think it's 8 ah in 18v.... Also have you guys been able to compare the power of the M18 table saw to this one? Also changing the blade size is possible with this saw, could you try placing a 8.5 inch saw and compare that to the Milwaukee, or a corded Dewalt? Don't have to make a video, just asking if that's something that from experience you maybe able to derive some type of conclusion?

[@OZToolTalk]

hi Phantom, good questions. We used the 2.5Ah and are going to try the 4Ah soon (Hikoki are sending), we'll pop up some some on Instagram about that. Haven't tried against the M18 sorry

[@MrTherbst]

METABO also make a cordless 10" tablesaw

[@OZToolTalk]

ah ! yes! we saw that in Germany a few years ago (pre-production at the time), how could we forget!!

[@kobydean1]

Metabo and hikoki are the same brand

[@HeavyK.]

That's cool. Does the fence stay pretty square? Or do you have to fix it every time?

[@socialspherecafe5170]

Does it include the standard AC power or is it sold separately? Please confirm.

[@homerenovations6544]

Sold separately

[@deanosslewis]

8ah multivolt bats are much more substantial. Expensive though.

[@OZToolTalk]

Yes! I didn't know these existed! Feeling pretty stupid right about now....

[@georgesdesk]

Can this saw except a dado blade

[@gabelizr1308]

Yes it can!

[@tomc3965]

Probably wouldnt be able to wheel this thing through door ways would you?

[@OZToolTalk]

I think it will go through an 820 door .... would have to check

[@tomc3965]

@@OZToolTalk thanks

[@deanosslewis]

Plastic locking cams is a big fail. Same with their compound saw. Cheesy flexi plastic mechanisms.

[@Katalyst-K]

quite easy to replace with alu ones

[@OZToolTalk]

hmmm. It feels like all the others I've used....

[@Therealphantomzero]

I have the miter, and It has the plastic but it's tool plastic, you can also adjust the tension, I did it to mine, and it feels much better

[@deanosslewis]

@@Therealphantomzero Yeah i got the cordless mitre too. Thanks for the tip. I am pretty shocked at how non rigid the saw is and how sloppy the positive stop increments are. Some of the cheap home handyman saws from bunnings are better in that regard. Its definately no makita/dewalt/milwalki. Or even a hitachi of old. What the hell are they doing.

[@Therealphantomzero]

@@deanosslewis I additionally make sure just to use the locking level but I get accurate cuts to me it's not a big deal I had a rigid 12 inch I just got rid of ice way too big and two too much flex in the head, but this one is fine and I had a friend who is super outfit and so far he likes it. No festool but still for potability and small trim work good, this saw really made for compound mitering, breasted crown the fence is too small without a jig but I like it

[@mcaudery]

This seams so cheap compaired to milwaukee and dewalt cordless. 200 bucks cheaper and seams way better.

[@JimTom.]

its pretty underpowered though, even with the ac adapter

[@Aladinscave]

Don’t buy this saw it is rubbish!! I had my one with a non start problem straight out of the box, had it replaced 4 months later same problem had it repaired by Hikoki after waiting almost 3 months to get it back now it’s out of warranty from the original purchase date and guess what it failed again ! Now they want me to pay to get it repaired again 🤬 I don’t even do heavy work on it I do 15mm cedar cladding with it so no abuse of any sort I’m gutted wasted my money…..

[@gabelizr1308]

That sounds like a lie 🎉 😉😌