Zion Williamson was drafted into the NBA at the age of 19. During that time he was criticized for his weight openly for MILLIONS of viewers. CrossFit wants to be professionalized. Then male, female you have to take what comes with it. Olivia’s weight was talked about it a complete sports specific setting. Can’t have the title of professional athlete but not the open criticism, NOT HATE, that comes with it.
@des1nteress3 Жыл бұрын
It's not professional to do it openly. Americans are really a special breed with no manners.
@Snskch3 Жыл бұрын
Cause he must have been fat
@oases738 Жыл бұрын
What do you think about the weight pressures in other sports such as gymnastics and swimming where Olympic gold medalists have come out and talked about the negative effects in their sports of their coaches forcing them to lose weight?
@Gojimaru Жыл бұрын
@@oases738 If they have a problem with it, they should change fucking sports or give up entirely. This snowflake attitude has no place in actual competition. No one cares how you feel. If you ain't up to par good luck somewhere else.
@Nickpeters.physio Жыл бұрын
I don't know much about gymnastics, but from talking to people who have competed, it seems like in gymnastics you're pressured to lose weight for aesthetic reasons to be looked at more favorably by the judges. If that's the case, that's unfortunate. That sport is very subjective. But that's a lot different than being told "if you lose 20-lbs you'll be able to do more HSPU, ring muscle-ups will be easier and you'll run faster". If someone hears that and then they feel bad and as though everyone is criticizing their looks, it might be time to work with a therapist to see why they feel that way (which I'm a big advocate for).
@bobbiemoore7527 Жыл бұрын
Nailed it! I gained 48 pounds over the “pandemic” I was trying to keep my affiliate doors open and completely neglected my own health. Guess what? I can’t do a fucking handstand push up anymore. It’s embarrassing. I’m back in a calorie deficit and prioritizing workouts. My weight does matter.
@patricklang7162 Жыл бұрын
Dani Speegle “please keep talking about me, I don’t care” lol then proceeds to care a whole lot. What a shmuck
@ItsAxelFoley7 ай бұрын
I’m really liking your content lately man. Valid points, well edited…great video.
@kathiestan4379 Жыл бұрын
Jake Douglas is a great example of someone who recognised the need to make adjustments to do better in the sport. The guy is an absolute beast and has some of the best lifts in both snatch and C&J but he decided he needed to be lighter to be more well rounded. With discipline and commitment he lost 9 kg (20 pds). We will see how this plays out during the season but i have no doubt that his performance in gymnastics/ endurance will be so much better than last season
@judeyyudkin3183 Жыл бұрын
I think if you are discussing a sport and talking about someone’s weight in relation to performance, there is nothing wrong with that. So long as you’re not completely disrespectful. You brought up a lot of good points. The only thing that does concern me is young girls misunderstanding the conversation. I have had an eating disorder for 30+ years. Hearing these type of comments when I was younger, would only have contributed to my focusing on needing to be “perfect”. When you are a young girl, I don’t think you have the life experience to understand the conversation is focusing on performance and not take it personal. I think it is important how you verbalize this topic of discussion. I personally do not think there was anything wrong with your statements, especially given that your platform is coming from health, fitness, and the CrossFit arena.
@alfredoyzaguirre5888 Жыл бұрын
You’ve definitely found your niche. It’s provocative it’s click baity, it’s all the “mean” things but it works! You’re the “heel” of the CrossFit world. People that get bent out of shape bc of your content just don’t get it. You do you and keep the content comin!!
@guswright Жыл бұрын
Former CFB player here. I love this video. This is how college sports is, too (minus the fine part, its more about playing time). If youre too slow or whatever because youre over weight, say goodbye to your playing time. It's not that anyone hates you. It's for the team, we're trying win. If youre too slow to do your job because youre overweight and outta shape relative to your postion, sorry, next guy up
@anniejack2 ай бұрын
I already subscribed so. But anyway. Your arguments are always logical AF. Love the content.
@joshuabeeker Жыл бұрын
Solid video, you gave valid points, thoroughly explained yourself and provided some entertainment too. Overall, the issue is that society as a whole is soft.
@PinkelefantZ3 Жыл бұрын
Anyone who has taken cf seriously has struggled with the balance of weight/strength/lifts & leanness/gymnastics/cardio. This makes perfect sense if you remove feelings but everyone’s feelings matter now and they cannot separate the two for some reason. Makes me think of Laura Horvath and her struggle with HSPUs.
@thomasvieth5571 Жыл бұрын
Horvath is a prime example, just because she doesn't look fit doesn't mean she is. She is damn beast of a weightlifter and just as good at gymnastics in the overall picture. The best figure out the fine line between the two and it shows in CF.
@tylerochs5253 Жыл бұрын
She doesn’t look fit? What kind of garbage is this? You mean because she isn’t single digit BF? This is just complete nonsense.
@DevHazy11 ай бұрын
She does look fit. Wtf
@Therealkevin87 Жыл бұрын
They don't want to be professional they want fat contracts. They want to be paid good money to work out with the potential to win more money at comps. They don't want any other obligations or stipulations just paychecks. That is what being professional means to them... getting paid very well regardless of performance at comps.
@kelseyzimmerman925911 ай бұрын
Interesting thought- I work in the NFL -directly working with athletes weights and determining the size they need to be in the season. In the NFL each athlete is given a range of bodyweight they must fall within to not be fined. This range is determined SPECIFICALLY for that athlete. It isn’t a range for “every running back”. It’s determined by their physical size factoring in bone density, muscle mass, and stature. So one running backs weight requirement will be different than all the other running backs. That is because they are all different heights, and have different muscle mass etc. They might be similar ranges, but they won’t be the same. This is why it can’t be done for CrossFit. Take the smallest games athlete versus the biggest. Now maybe one of those athletes needs to lose or gain weight to preform optimally but there is NO possible range you can give a set of 30 girls to all fall within. They would all need to do their own individual DEXA scan and then determine what weight they would be best fit at. It has a lot to do with their physical numbers AS WELL as looking at strength and conditionings numbers on speed etc. the only way to be “professional” is to be individualized. No generalized formula for anyone. Hope that helps
@Breezy_Mart9610 ай бұрын
I totally agree with you Hiller. I have been doing CrossFit for 10 years and I have always been a good lifter due to being heavier but due to my weight and not being mindful of diet and other factors my workouts suffer.. I can lift all day but my weight is effecting my performance.. it is a fact! Man or woman, it is the same thing.
@toddharrison6130 Жыл бұрын
Since there are no weight classes in crossfit I don't need to know what anyone weighs, curious sure. Olivia is a pro, she wouldn't be there in that category if she wasn't, she lifts more than most men and is very fit. Should every athlete be keeping tabs on their weight and how it affects their performance, if they want to excel they better. As a commentator in this arena should Andrew call her out by name especially at her age, not sure. Some of the toppish athletes know after years of trying that they are never going to be perfectly well rounded so they try to maintain their advantage where they can, like Bron and Dani. Being good athletes with a specialty is how they make their mark.
@woodshcc56 ай бұрын
The only group that matters in regards to lifting weights is the group of people who lift weights. If you only include those who actually lift weights, then she doesn't lift more than most men. It's a silly comparison to compare a professional to someone that isn't even attempting to be an amateur...
@oases738 Жыл бұрын
Weight management as a barometer of professionalism may work in one sport but not necessarily in all.There is a massive problem with pressuring athletes in sports to keep their weight in line. Gymnastics and swimming are notorious with these practices in both males and females. Olympic gymnasts have been very open in the last few years how badly it’s affected them physically and mentally.
@hardlylast Жыл бұрын
NFL players get fined for being over weight obviously position dependent no one says jack about it because there’s a reason
@karattop9 ай бұрын
Mary Cain was a top tier track athlete who signed with Nike and Alberto Salazar. He and his coaches put crazy body weight goals on her with the idea that lighter equals faster. It made her sick. To the point she was no longer getting her period or competing in the level she was years prior. She recently won a lawsuit against Nike. Which I believe she fully deserved after what she was out through
@phont24 Жыл бұрын
Acknowledging it only takes me 30 seconds to type this out vs making the video. Professionalism is defined by the specific space and role CrossFit feels more analogous to tennis than football given the players work for themselves not the league. NFL players are employees, so yeah you get fined because you’re costing the organization whereas in tennis/crossfit your compensation is decided by performance and self branding
@TheFittestLailani Жыл бұрын
Powerlifting and weightlifting both- athletes weight is listed and literally determines what class they lift in.. its important, its no secret. It shouldnt be one in Crossfit- the "professional " side lol😂
@delunadenny7084 Жыл бұрын
this comment wins!
@TheFittestLailani Жыл бұрын
@@delunadenny7084 woohoo! I like winning!
@jlynnyay Жыл бұрын
some “body frames” are naturally bigger and some are smaller. BUT if they’re following the CrossFit prescription whatever frame you’ve got is gonna be tight and dialed in. ❤ good points Hiller the athletes need to be careful what they ask for.
@wyan79 Жыл бұрын
I don’t disagree with your premise but Colon pitched 21 years until he was 45 and Sabathia pitched 19 until he was 38. Maybe not the best examples.
@stevepasche Жыл бұрын
Came to post this.
@michaelfeher86029 ай бұрын
Ditto. They're outliers for sure. But baseball is an odd sport where you can be legitimately overweight and unhealthy but it not affect your performance. Pablo Sandoval, Big Papi, and Mo Vaughn come to mind too. Those dudes could rake in their prime.
@thisisspartacus Жыл бұрын
Maybe the heavier athletes at WZA are in a bulking phase because their focus is the CrossFit games and they just wanna have fun at WZA or make an appearance for sponsorship visibility.
@nylonstringninja Жыл бұрын
The big difference in professional "CrossFit" is maybe what, the top 5 people are actually "professionals". How many houses in total has competing in CrossFit actually paid for worldwide? For the rest of them it is just an all consuming hobby that they are pursuing and it definitely is not paying the bills. My issue with Olivia is you can make a case on paper that yea sure we can critique these people because they put themselves out there in competition and are technically adults. But maybe we should cut the 17/18 yr olds a break. She knows shes big for a lot of this stuff. It's hard to learn your body and get everything in your life set up to maximize performance. I wouldn't want to be going through it knowing for sure people were going to be bringing it up on KZbin.
@MediaByMando Жыл бұрын
You hear it in the box too, if people are overweight chances of them doing a legless rope climb are slim, but they’ll deadlift a whole Mack truck. Just look at the strongman bois and girls. Agree with you Hiller.
@ClockCutter Жыл бұрын
I've had the thought for awhile that these athletes wouldn't really want a true professionalization of "the sport". Most of them wouldn't get near the Games. They'd have to compete far harder, far more times per year. The NFL is up to 17 games a season! Pro bike racers in Europe at the top of the sport are averaging around 75 race days a year. The pressure on them would increase exponentially. They'd come under far more savage attacks than anything they've seen. Truth is, compared to real pro athletes, the top CF Games athletes are soft and spoiled.
@Craig-pk5cc Жыл бұрын
Agree with everything you said here !! The shit I see pro mountain bikers having to put up with from the fan base is unreal and it’s worse on the road side especially the grand tour riders. Also the amount they have to compete is sky high compared to CF. Another sport that competes a lot weekend after weekend is Biathlon but I don’t think they have to deal with as much hate from the fan base.
@christianvalladares1795 Жыл бұрын
Andrew, Constructive criticism is always a good thing. That’s the only way things get better from what they are. The only idiots that have a problem with that are people with egos so big that they can’t pull their head out of their butts. Keep preaching brother!
@Snskch3 Жыл бұрын
These people want the word professional, because they want to be paid more, but they do not want the stipulations or criticism that comes along with being an actual professional
@bay.carlson Жыл бұрын
Glad you clarified this was about Games athletes, because I was afraid I was getting called out.
@grahambatey2242 Жыл бұрын
Theres a great bit in Jessica Ennis autobiography where she talks about this. I think it was as she was preparing for the 2012 olympics (she was a heptathlete) and her coach was heard saying that she was overweight and he was hammered in the media. She came out and said yeah she was obviously at a very healthy weight but for her sports she was a few pounds over where she should be. Its important to understand the context
@drumzforbumz Жыл бұрын
15:40 I think there’s a solution to all this back and forth. Sevan-Hiller-Speegle on a chat-can be on your channel-can be on Sevans. But instead, she chooses to go on John and Nicole’s podcast and complain. Engage with the people you have an issue with and solve it through conversation otherwise stfu and move on.
@elizabethbest719 Жыл бұрын
The job of professional athletes is to showcase what their bodies are capable of. Of course we're going to comment on them.
@11cfschroeder Жыл бұрын
Compare Katrin and Brooke Wells performances in their first couple of years at the Games to their performances after - obviously they were learning more and improving their skills. But also they noticeably leaned up. The outlier to this general correlation being Horvath.
@tuckertech Жыл бұрын
Age has something to do with it as well. As Horvath gets older she may find she needs to lean out as well. I think professional athletes are always fine tuning their bodies for optimal performance.
@nekahuf Жыл бұрын
Great video Hiller! 👏🏻💪🏻💪🏻
@matthewjohnson2674 Жыл бұрын
Im setting up for my workout with you playing in the back ground and when i heard "you want me to do a back flip?" I dropped everything and ran to my phone, ohwell maybe next time.
@drop36000 Жыл бұрын
This is the time of year when these athletes would likely want to be bigger and adding strength/muscle, isn't it? They want to be in peak condition in August, not January. No professional athlete stays in peak competiton condition year-round.
@P1995. Жыл бұрын
I agree, I also think they put too many competitions throughout the year, of course the biggest competition of the year of course is the CrossFit games, Open, sectionals
@freakied0550 Жыл бұрын
Swing and a miss (pun intended) on Bartolo Colon. Man was in the MLB in his mid 40s, still playing to this day in Dubai at 50. Definitely an anomaly to be fair.
@ljdecker546 Жыл бұрын
Agreed on this. Pitchers as a whole don't fit this episode. All they gotta do is throw - they don't really need to move fast so as long as they can throw they can kinda be whatever size they want.
@Everyday_Visionary Жыл бұрын
Before I watch the video, my first thought when watching the intro was that if there is any crossfitter that represents professionalism it is for sure fikowski. No doubt.
@Dan_8712 Жыл бұрын
Pretty sure you all talked about Nick Mathew being a thick boi and to stop lifting weights when discussing his piss poor performance so the whole 'they never discuss the mens weight' really doesn't slide.
@andrewdempster5170 Жыл бұрын
Let’s look at this from another angle…. Would you be concerned with an athlete’s high weight or bmi if they were doing well in all events? To me the performance is what’s important. I would only be concerned if I was constantly performing poorly in a certain area.
@melissakiel4999 Жыл бұрын
Used to think asking someone’s weight was improper until I started coaching CrossFit. Since the sport was born from fucking physics and biochemistry it was important to realize that my job was to use the formulas to control body weight for optimal health.
@thatguyforsure7819 Жыл бұрын
Interesting post. It highlights an issue with BMI. I would bet 90-95% of top crossfit athletes are overweight (>25 BMI).
@J_Wolfe86 Жыл бұрын
Yea I thinks its starting to be more recognized that BMI is useless. According to the Navy my BMI is 27 (borderline obese 😂) I’m 5”9 190
@thomasvieth5571 Жыл бұрын
BMI is a terrible barometer. A dude who is 5'10" / 225 lbs. with 5 % BF is overweight. We all know that isn't true.
@thatguyforsure7819 Жыл бұрын
@thomasvieth5571 Actually 5'10 and 225 is obese not overweight. Lol
@jomlin143 Жыл бұрын
I dont think people are being honest when they say Olivia cant be lean. Or that her body isn't built like other CFers. If you look at her a year ago, she's much leaner. Not "thin", but not as heavy as she was at WZA. I didnt even recognize her when she stepped out.
@OneStrongDad Жыл бұрын
What about bringing the comparison to MMA - even with weight classes body composition plays a huge part. The more serious you are as an athlete it shows. Dropping excess body fat helps put you in the right weight class - you don’t need to be shredded but you can’t take the lazy route.
@mjb154 Жыл бұрын
Team sports vs Individual, the 'fine' is that they finish further down the leaderboard. If they employ a good coach, they'll be honest with them about that. Maybe for Kerstetter this is intentional to get her weightlifting/strength numbers up and as we move into games season and the volume ramps up, she knows that she'll drop some back to what is optimal for her.
@Rob_Southards Жыл бұрын
Andrew, I really think you should find a way to interview. Rich froning and Annie Thorsdaughter on this subject. When they were signed by Reebok they were I think required to do quite a few things. I even think you should interview Ben B. It'll open book conversation.
@marymissmary Жыл бұрын
Maybe the difference is team sports (football, basketball,etc) vs individual sports like CrossFit. We all kinda know if we want to get a bit better at lifting, gaining a bit of mass can help, and if we want to get better at gymnastics, losing a bit of mass can help. But in an individual sport like CrossFit, being at a ‘non-optimal body mass for winning’ is only detrimental to the individual’s goal of winning. Whereas in a team sport it affects the whole team.
@Craig-pk5cc Жыл бұрын
Your so right I’ve lost 18kg in the last year my gymnastics have improved loads I’ve even managed to handstand walk a little bit and I’m 40 😂 but luckily I’ve kept my strength and actually improved it on some lifts.
@twinturbo347010 ай бұрын
Woman love the game when it works for them but hate it when it works the other way.
@ckkevin9620 Жыл бұрын
You are literally crushing it lately! So much to unpack here but I'll let you continue to do it for us. Keep up the great work. Part of what's wrong with society in general. Too much hypocrisy and people talking out of both sides of their mouths all the time!!! Then when they get called out they play the victim. It's really sad no one has any personal responsibility anymore. The one's that actually do have personal responsibility tend to rise to the top. I tell my kids if they are even remotely close to being savages they will crush all the weak-minded kids out there these days. Not just in sports but in life!
@CFetheridge Жыл бұрын
Hahah a back flip is easy Andrew just do it 🤣 plus you never here the women in mma complaining about having to be at certain weights for the weight class they fight in to be able to make the money they do as professional athletes. I mean if they miss weight they just lost a huge pay out
@triwithlaura3138 Жыл бұрын
Arbitrary weight targets pose a higher health risk to women. Similarly the impacts of body fat percentages can vary. Just because the nfl do this, doesnt make it ok. P.s. Dani speegle is just jacked. I suspect a bit of a hyper responder and prefers being strong and wont risk letting that go. Not everyone is built to be small. Perhaps olivia isn't one of those. I'm sure they know what theyre doing but EDs are serious. Dont play with that space recklessly
@TheFittestLailani Жыл бұрын
Scientifically or as an opinion? Re: weight targets. To touch on the "small " subject, you're right-ish. there is an ideal weight and bf % for each individual when it pertains to Crossfit specifically. While those weights will vary based on genetic structures, ie: Tia is prime at 127-130 and my guess is 8.5-9% at the games. While Laura is simply a bigger athlete with a higher bf and weight, she's strong, her gymnastics that involve pulling are great. But, her handstand push ups are not. You're telling me that it wouldn't benefit her to drop some bf? As far as the eating disorders go, I'm not using an abbreviation- if there is a deficit athlete, you'll see it in their performance over the course of the game. If there is a surplus athlete, you'll see it.. it swings both ways. I always think to a phrase... "sound mind, sound body". That was a rant- 😆
@triwithlaura3138 Жыл бұрын
@@TheFittestLailani no I don't think so. Losing weight could impact her negatively. I imagine a big issue for her with the deficit hspu is her arm lever dimensions. Women's sports are riddled with coaches forcing weight targets and breaking athletes. REDs is a serious condition with life long complications. I'm not saying a winner won't fit a certain mould but not everyone's genetics are suited to hit it. So lets just see if these athletes break the mould or underperform. But let them be and not assume smaller is better
@triwithlaura3138 Жыл бұрын
@@TheFittestLailani no I don't think so. Losing weight could impact her negatively. I imagine a big issue for her with the deficit hspu is her arm lever dimensions. Women's sports are riddled with coaches forcing weight targets and breaking athletes. REDs is a serious condition with life long complications. I'm not saying a winner won't fit a certain mould but not everyone's genetics are suited to hit it. So lets just see if these athletes break the mould or underperform. But let them be and not assume smaller is better
@luigi229m Жыл бұрын
Talking about weight I actually think every year they should weigh everybody at the CF Games and make the results public. The listed weights put by the athletes themselves are a joke. Does anybody really believe Noah Ohlsen or Pat Vellner or whoever weighs 185... come on...
@LiterallyLisa1 Жыл бұрын
If people weren’t so emotionally attached to the numbers on the scale, they’d be able to hear what you’re saying.
@Rob_Southards Жыл бұрын
Another topic of professionalism is the opportunity to do sports betting on athletes. If athletes publicly shared their weight and as well as open videos... That would help lean towards professionalism
@sometalkmoresquat2210 Жыл бұрын
I am not sure Olenkowicz weighs 104kg. He is 184cm tall and I guess around 90kg body weight by the way he looks.
@AileenBaker Жыл бұрын
It's an interesting conversation because there's such a different structure to a professional team (paid by the team, having standards set by the team as in your Bears example) vs. the current crossfit model where individuals aren't paid by a "team" model and don't have a prescriptive set of requirements to adhere to on that team. I'd be curious to hear the same type of discussion with athletes in more individual sports (tennis, marathon, idk?) to see if there's a model that could more broadly translate to the current structure of CrossFit. Or, you know, CrossFit could just start paying it's athletes then make those benchmarks itself 🤷🏻♀️
@KilluhBEL Жыл бұрын
Hey..what’s the “it’s provocative” movie scene from?
@kidfresh467 Жыл бұрын
I agree with what you’re saying, that’s why I keep saying the sport isn’t professional. Very few of the athletes are actually making any money through the sport. Mostly women have big sponsors cause they can sexualize their bodies but the men can’t, but there’s nothing wrong with stating the obvious and then backing it up with facts….. ppl like to avoid the facts when they want to feel triggered.
@RogueCylon Жыл бұрын
The cream rises to the top….laced with enhancements,
@randychetham Жыл бұрын
I will say.... going after the most social media famous person in Crossfit was a smart move for the fame.
@seinsfrage Жыл бұрын
Andrew's nothing if not opportunistic,
@jonathanhall7356 Жыл бұрын
Perhaps the NFL to crossfit comparison would obtain better if crossfit athletes were (a) under guaranteed contract, (b) guaranteed objectively high salaries, esp. for 2d-tier players (e.g., Tyson Bagent), and (c) under the robust union protection of NFL athletes. A far more apt comparison would be, say, professional tennis players or other elite individual athletes who do not have a an organization that ostensibly owns rights in their body and performance. Additionally, perform a cost-benefit analysis of how you frame this conversation. Taking the time to specify that you're questioning whether an athlete's body composition is ideal for the given athletic task is little harm to you and minimizes the possibility that listeners will understand your commentary to mean, "X is athlete is [objectively] overweight." This would additionally decrease the risk of listener outrage, although maybe pundits benefit from upset viewers.
@stephenpliler5983 Жыл бұрын
Kinda crazy we don't collect with data in competition
@coryleonard010 Жыл бұрын
There’s a video of Dan Bailey learning how to do a backflip in 30 minutes and then He and Rich did a workout with them. If Bailey can learn to backflip, you certainly can.
@ManOfEthnicity Жыл бұрын
There's plenty of videos of Fraser and Ohlsen doing them too, It had became such a common trick that I remember outlets speculating if it would become part of an event at some point.
@Rob_Southards Жыл бұрын
Jason khalipa learned as well... And he probably was the heaviest athlete at the time. There's also a workout k-star did with backflips and tire flips
@gokeymasterflex Жыл бұрын
Literally watched that video of Dan and rich, went to an friend that was a gymnast and was like teach me how to backflip. 10-15 mins later backflip’s learned
@laurameece4478 Жыл бұрын
Professional means you get paid. That’s it. People can talk about anything they want. It’s not hate, it’s “talk”.
@Rob_Southards Жыл бұрын
You should have added the videos of Matt and Patrick talking about their weight gain in the offseason
@surcalation Жыл бұрын
Sure there is a clip out there from Frazer saying why he wasn't as lean as most of his competitors as he felt with the extra fat he was able to push as others caught up to him. He felt if he was leaner he wouldn't of done so well. Also a clips where Noah Olson has spoke about his weight and changing it in order to improve his finishes in the games.
@TheOriginalSteveMiller Жыл бұрын
I weigh about 185 lbs. Now that was not so difficult.
@ljdecker546 Жыл бұрын
You're a hammer and everyone out there is nails, so some folks are just gonna be upset about the hammering. Olivia's weight is a legitimate question in CrossFit. I looked up her lifts and she could probably shift to being a world class olympic lifter if she focused on that. Her engine is pretty great for carrying a few extra pounds. Laura Horvath shows that a bigger girl CAN win, but even Laura has weaknesses because of it. Olivia shouldn't ever try to be slender because her competitive advantage is in power, but if she got leaner, she could probably be a podium contender.
@pineapplescream Жыл бұрын
Was excited to see the backflip
@mattday9201 Жыл бұрын
If you make it your the right weight
@thomasvieth5571 Жыл бұрын
Exactly the correct answer.
@CdLobo Жыл бұрын
As a woman I can maybe provide perspective. The issue is that women have historically been taught by mass media that their worth is determined by their looks. That is why commenting on a woman’s looks is “not okay”. Because it’s been years of “you should smile more, you need to be skinny, you need to have a big fake butt to be cool” etc… so women have gotten fed up and said… nobody gets a say over what my body looks like. And with that I can relate as a woman. I grew up on a constant battle of trying to be skinny. Now In my thirties almost forties I have come to see the value in exercise and muscle for my health and longevity, severing that connection between healtthy=skinny. With that being said, I hope you’re able to see how the whole “don’t comment on women’s bodies” makes sense to some. I won’t even go into the fact that women and men need to develop strong sense of self and then these comments may be uncomfortable but not shape you. (We’re soft AF nowadays) I support your argument because this is a competitive sport. It’s a fact that if you want to be well rounded and win or stay competitive you have to do both conditioning and strength. If you bias one over the other you’ll suck at one. That’s the compromise. And I completely see y’all pointing that out and there is no offense in that. So the solution here is not having mean people stop saying mean to things. (In a utopian society, sure, in the real world, impossible). It’s teaching or women and young men that your worth does not come from people’s approval of your looks but from what you can do, how kind you are, your relationships, your values (and so much more). 😊
@CdLobo Жыл бұрын
Ps. I’m a level two coach and when someone tells me I need to gain more muscle, in order to get the big lifts, I don’t get offended. I understand that’s a fact. Mass moves mass. (My technique is solid but my #1 problem is under eating) so I know for a fact muscle mass would go a long way and I struggle every day to eat more. But imagine me starting a blog or TikTok to complain about people commenting on my body. 😊
@kjharris6657 Жыл бұрын
Weight is just the tip of the iceberg if athletes were to get contracts. Those contracts are extremely restrictive. Want to rock climb? You cant because it is deemed an extreme or dangerous sport and you will be dropped and sued for breach of contract. Those month long vacations will have to be scheduled and approved by the company. When a company or sport signs you under contract you become their investment. I don't think CrossFit is ready to be a "professional" sport with contracts, the company is far too disorganized, and the athletes are too distracted with everything else.
@hsmitty111 Жыл бұрын
You’re on point, Andrew. I’m a 35 yr old female and have been like 60ish lbs overweight since 2020. First time in my life I’ve been overweight. This body positivity bs is just that, bs. These female influencers want to say it’s harmful to young female athletes to be on them about weight but it’s just TRUTH. it’s NOT healthy to be overweight. Period. Sure we don’t want to force someone into bulimia but that’s also on them. Want to be a pro and in the spotlight, act like it.
@hebrew67 Жыл бұрын
Sabathia and Colon? You might want to take a peek at their career longevity.
@misterpgallagher11 ай бұрын
I think sometimes Hiller can be pretty harsh, but after hearing him talk about this, he is 100000% right. Makes me second guess my judgment on Hiller when he is right with this stuff to a T.
@senjore88 Жыл бұрын
Don't you think that Dani looks like a Stifler's mom from American Pie?! Especially that clip @ 0:43
@shuey134 Жыл бұрын
Those Reddit boys are keeping you employed. 😂
@chrisjohnson-up8os Жыл бұрын
Tfx next weekend Would love to get your take!
@lisaaustin3046 Жыл бұрын
I forgot you had a husky. Getting my second one in a month. Number one is going to have a sister.
@TACinCLE Жыл бұрын
It’s not apples to apples. In a team sport with a contract your individual performance impacts the overall team. In CrossFit, If you are not in your best possible shape and it leads to poor performance, the individual will receive their own financial punishment in a lack of winnings, brand partnerships and invites to top tier events with high earning potential. You basically give yourself the fine.
@reneek1 Жыл бұрын
Hear me out, average weight for a defenseman is 308lbs. He’s got an important place on the team just like the other guys who weigh less. I think I understand why you made this video but I’m having trouble with the “gain/lose a few” (maybe this means I don’t understand lol) These people are clearly at the top of the game in order to make these competitions even though most of them will never win. The specialized athletes make some of these events so much fun to watch whether you’re a fan or not. I’d say DS’s “fine” was her not making the games last year.
@senjore88 Жыл бұрын
Hahaha Hiller is on fire! Scared the shit out of the dog Jokes aside, amazing video! Great point!
@whiterabit09 Жыл бұрын
When are you going to address the question in the title... in the video?
@katie7674 Жыл бұрын
3:12 7:29 8:09 10:20 11:32
@mightycrossfit8998 Жыл бұрын
here for the backflip
@seanm3933 Жыл бұрын
It's a trick question, when doing gymnastics...all of them, when doing weightlifting...none of them.
@Zoet50 Жыл бұрын
Pickell ball has a lot more professionals and higher dollar awards than CrossFit
@poundcake88 Жыл бұрын
I'm new to this but if they want to be more professional and having competitions on the same level, then they need well trained judges. From your vids, it looks like the standard of movement and execution determines rep or no rep and needs to be well established. Also, like MLB, NFL etc, if the ref or ump has final say in a call even after reviewing video footage, the CF athlete has to accept no rep calls.
@TheFittestLailani Жыл бұрын
Welcome!!!
@chrisgilesinaustralia Жыл бұрын
8:09 what about if he’s underweight??
@jedimasterkhc1 Жыл бұрын
Make it like the UFC, by weight class. In that way people will put their crap together
@andogrando487 Жыл бұрын
Here for the backflip
@derekabdelnour3544 Жыл бұрын
A lot of relevant points in this video.
@jasonalmond7611 Жыл бұрын
I couldn’t make it more than about halfway through this video. Comparing team sports like football to individual CrossFitters and discussing the fines is a complete non sequitur. I could be 35% body fat, but if I could beat Brent FiKowski at CrossFit - I would be in the games. The fact is some of the female CrossFit athletes can carry a little bit more body fat and still be elite. The men can’t. They don’t. It’s an empirical reality.
@ryanbonser361 Жыл бұрын
They should introduce weight classes to the sport. Light weight, middle weight, heavy weight
@kapner2104 Жыл бұрын
The baseball example was awful cause Lincecum had a shorter career than Sabathia (19 years mlb service) & Colon (21 years mlb service)
@patricklang7162 Жыл бұрын
This football guy is already doing SOOOOO much for CrossFit. Hope Hiller and football guy and Sevan can help CrossFit.
@pr30649 ай бұрын
2:20 yes you do care. time in time you go to your insta and “cry” about someone talking about your body
@1000brother10 ай бұрын
Keep up the great work!
@PaytonGuthrie Жыл бұрын
Listen....I don't mind speaking about athletes bodies in the term of sport. It's hard to give 100% knowledge during off season comps because we don't know where each athlete is in their training/ramp up for the games season. What I do mind is the very poor comp using athletes under contract in sport (NFL, NBA, etc) vs basically freelance athletes. The idea of professionalism in Crossfit isn't that they athletes need to be more professional (the system used to determines who goes to the games or not does that part) but the organizations running comps need to be more professional. Sorry for the wall of text, but I feel like you missed the point or you were arguing a different point.
@crossfit4654 Жыл бұрын
All you have to do is define " what is professionalism?" What dani is defining as " to make money for what we do " What you are pointing out, is the actual definition about professionalism. You are under a contractal obligation for the organization you represent to make $. Is CrossFit an organization to pay athletes at all fitness competitions? Is WZA a CrossFit approved event? That's where it gets crazy and why Glassman wanted to avoid.
@dutchstallion8518 Жыл бұрын
Pro athlete here. Hiller said a pitch with a 21 year MLB career had longevity issues. I swear Hiller should have me proof his videos first. I could have told him baseballs a terrible example of body fat and excess weight in sport. I could have gave an example of just recently about 1-2 years ago they changed the pitching rules to hurt fat pitchers more for the first time in history with a pitch clock and one fat but incredible pitcher went from near cy young winner to out of a mlb job just from the rule because he was fat. For my sport I’m also sent to “fat camp” if I hit certain body fat % and there’s fitness bonuses for the mutants. While I agree Olivia definitely does not seem to pass the eye test for where I believe body fat % should be for her best interests as an athlete,the sports not there yet. Like maybe she gets sloppy fat and stops being a games athlete and some sponsors are upset. It’s not like a NYY getting paid $100 mill in guaranteed money and taking a roster spot to get up to 350. I want to like Hiller. He’s so unbelievably close to being the type of thing I’d throw on in the dressing room with the boys but his Speegle obsession is such a turnoff. I think it’s his hill he’s willing to die on though.