Himalayan 450's Low-End Torque Delivery Improved With 49 Teeth Rear Sprocket

[@AzharAlvisPercepts]

Of all the channels who have bought a Himalayan 450 and made videos about, yours is the only one I can actually watch for true insights. Id love if you could also explore the tourer side of this machine.

[@mattdoespushups2350]

Bruh at this point . This dude has already invested half a Himalayan more on that bike 😂. And i am here for it.

[@OnroadwithHarsh]

The guy got this bike from RE to play around and make videos

[@___SSS___]

How ? Do Tires , rear sprocket and fuel x cost half the himalayan 450?

[@myselfyuvi]

At this point this dude can go ahead and register a patent for this bike as a new product of his own! 😂✌️

[@myselfyuvi]

​@@___SSS___No... But the time and efforts of the skilled engineers involved in all of this surely cost double that! 😀

[@mattdoespushups2350]

@@___SSS___ he already changed the tank on that bike that alone is 17k i think he mentioned it . 😂

[@ShadowVonChadwick]

That the plan when mine arrives, hopefully towards the end of next month. A 49 tooth will suit our speed limits here (110kph) any faster can be tiring and distract from viewing the scenery. And I plan to spend as little time on fast roads as possible. Enjoy your channel & what you are up to. Cheers from downunder.

[@MrMRSAF]

Thanks Abhinav for testing and sharing all possible options on making Himalayan a better ride. Appreciate your straight to solid content approach.

[@MohammedKinkhabwala]

Thanks for this amazing update video , ordering one now. Thanks Brother

[@bhaveshpatelsgr]

This is what I was talking about, cheers 👍🏻. Next mod 5 speed pls🙏🏻

[@yashchandel9051]

why to implement a 5 speed?

[@bhaveshpatelsgr]

@@yashchandel90511. less weight in moving parts. 2. Can have a better spread of gearing ratios, a bit of compromise on mileage n also on top speed but he is building for off road purpose so... 3. No clutch dragging

[@facelessn0mad]

Very cool, was wondering how hard this is to implement actually?

[@bhaveshpatelsgr]

@@facelessn0mad yes it's challenging work but not impossible. May be worth it.

[@ramji7zs781]

Can you remove that stock tyres and insert road tyres and check how much top speed it's hitting !! I wonder how much it hits when u have removed some weights of the bike and inserted powertronics !!

[@DAILY_FACTS_TREAT]

Same question from my side as well 😊

[@mallelli99]

I was literally waiting for this mod/jugad for long. Indeed I was thinking of going for lower teeth sprocket in the front

[@khullaasaand]

I rode it yesterday.... Bah Gawd This Bike Is A Winnah!

[@tariqueshoaib47]

Is there any vibration or buzzyness at any RPM please tell!

[@thebikerman_]

I felt that the Himalayan had a pretty short 1st gear in its stock condition. How is it now after the sprocket change?

[@sivakumars1383]

Hi Abhinav this series is very interesting and one stop solution of what mods can make the Himalayan 450 even more fun loving bike. But one question is the Fuelx pro standalone itself will take care of low end torque issues right so what will the sprocket change will provide more to us. Only thing missing is Easy clutch and adjustable clutch levers.

[@DAILY_FACTS_TREAT]

Did you installed front Sprocket also or just rear one ? Stock front socket has how many teeth ? Kit comes with 15 teeth. Is it necassary to change front one ?

[@girishraya]

Thanks Abhinav for this great information 🙏🏾

[@NoRoads2AllRoads]

Sir, I've been following this video series since the beginning... At this point, what is the full wet weight of the bike? I lost track ... Have you changed the exhaust yet? I don't think so right? Thank you

[@rishiroger]

Thanks for the update on this Abhinav, this particular mod is what is going to help a lot of riders in practicality. I intend to go with a 3T+ sprocket than 2. Besides this, could you please try LiquiMotul or Motul FS on the Sherpa 450 Engine and tell us your feedback about it ? I have seen and felt personally that large singles like this benefit a lot from change in Engine Oil.

[@abhinavbhatt]

Yeah, an oil change is on the agenda.

[@uthkarshnaik6608]

All RE has to do is see these series of videos, copy paste it , launch it with tubeless wheels and call it Himalayan Rally.

[@CampTlangram]

My Xpulse 200T e20 version has 42teeths stock sprocket. I used to ride my bike up hill regularly. It seems stock sprocket size is ideal for riding on hilly road.

[@JK-cw1tp]

Would've been great if a stock bike was compared side by side with this one.

[@tonny235468]

Do u observe any vibrations at 90 -110 kmph??

[@sricharankannan1176]

Truly amazing Stuff Abhinav.. Kudos to you buddy. Can you also tell us whats the tradeoff on the high end

[@aaryanjadhav3428]

@ABHINAVBHATT, I'd also like an answer to the above question pls

[@sunny_karthik]

Hi brother , need a suggestion. How can I improve low-end of my bs4 ecosport diesel, it's great in day to day scenario but when it comes to inclines underground situations it's just weak and struggles alot even in 1st gear , any suggestion would be greatly appreciated , I'm expecting a solution to this from you brother. Thank you

[@asbinojha1]

The TFT screen should be replaced by himalayan, its so irratatingly blinking🫣 Love your videos, love from himalaya/Nepal❤

[@DAILY_FACTS_TREAT]

Can you please install fuelxpro and check the low end perfomance.will it be good to install fuelx rather than changing sprocket or both the attachment will do wonders ?

[@abhinavbhatt]

Both will be better. I run both.

[@DAILY_FACTS_TREAT]

@@abhinavbhatt what mileage you got before and after in city and highways ?

[@abhinavbhatt]

@@DAILY_FACTS_TREAT I get about 27-28 in the city. I have no idea about the highway.

[@DAILY_FACTS_TREAT]

@@abhinavbhatt thanks for the reply.waiting for you to replace stock tyres and know the perfomance and efficiency...keep growing brother.😘

[@rkdash2006]

great original content .. amazing

[@satkap]

Will it improve rideability at low speed ? Will my lows and mids give some relief from heavy gear shifting.. Means i need.. less great shifting within the city. RPM with higher gears? Secondly will this be suitable for hunda CB 350?

[@abhinavbhatt]

Yes.

[@themanofculture7706]

Where can I find a 36T sprocket for 411

[@threatripper]

More torque and less speed 👍

[@TimothyGreen-ko2vm]

This will affect fuel economy. I I did the same swap on an Inazuma 250 gained drivability lost some mpg

[@da_Silentman]

Does it needs to change the stock chain?

[@rishir1553]

what about the brake pads !! it seems to squeak even with little dirt ! Any upgrades here ?

[@Kyp-Myx]

Привет из России! Мы тебя тоже здесь смотрим!

[@RizwanAmir]

Hi Abhinav, what's the top speed with the sprocket change?

[@user-zj2tu1iq5j]

I am guessing the top speed remains the same. Reason: Most H450 top speed videos on KZbin show the bike not hitting the rev-limiter in top gear, as the overdrive doesn't produce enough, rear-wheel, torque to hit 9k RPM, and only achieves about 8.5K . A 4.25% reduction in gearing will increase the rear-wheel torque, thereby increasing the rev-span on the 6th gear.

[@abhinavbhatt]

Makes sense. Only real world testing will be able to clear it.

[@archankarmakar]

Fuel x pro plus can be a solution for the low end power.

[@instaranjanvlog]

What if we change the front sprocket instead of the rear ones. Is there any issues or difference with the initials ?

[@abhinavbhatt]

It would largely do the same thing.

[@Djsivan]

Hey. Where can I find those mirrors you have used?

[@lalramdinavarte4987]

Doubletake Adventure mirrors

[@amriteshdev]

Hi Abhinav - did you get a chance to test the top speed ?

[@astonjondalmeida4528]

What's the rideable top speed after change

[@rajatroy1598]

How bike's milage will be effected

[@manepradeep]

@ABHINAVBHATT please make a small reel or video of all mods done till date, costs associated with it, your view of performance gain and weight reduction. Also, have you considered tail tidykit for further weight reduction?

[@abhinavbhatt]

That will be the final video, recapping everything. I have some plans about the tail.

[@satkap]

I want this for honda 350.. but he said he did not have the design.. any one else making this?

[@tariqueshoaib47]

Is there any vibration or buzzyness at any RPM please tell...!

[@buzzlightyear1484]

Dont you have common sense. This is a big single and it will surely have buzziness

[@tariqueshoaib47]

@@buzzlightyear1484 in my calculations i know you have over common sense thats called non sense, when i test ride RE450 from stock sprocket its vabrate at certain RPM but its gone after 90 or 100 speed. So my question is still vibration is there OR its gone after sprocket has changed OR is buzz is there then which particular RPM it will be starts? Hope my question is fits in your sense...

[@buzzlightyear1484]

@@tariqueshoaib47 well if you had some sense you would have realised that vibrations dont go away with sprocket change. The other thing is according to what everybody have said it is directly opposite to what you said about the speed where vibe starts. It is felt at 90 to 110 speeds and not before that. So yeah. There would always be some buzzing and i would nt be bothered with it.

[@YashDeshmukhtvs]

That means lesser mileage righttt...

[@abhinavbhatt]

Not necessarily. It could improve in the city.

[@shubhamdantare1837]

Hi Abhinav, anything in your garage to mitigate its vibrations. Aren't they too much or is it me overthinking?

[@abhinavbhatt]

I don't think the vibes are much to bother about.

[@rohitbasavaraj]

I like the mirror,,, which one is that?

[@dantelossantos7562]

I wander too.

[@SelvaSandy-zu6wg]

What mirrors have you used?

[@lalramdinavarte4987]

Doubletake Adventure mirrors

[@HimalayanBackpacker]

Hi Abhinav sir Did you upgrade your Gopro ? Dynamic range has improved a lot

[@abhinavbhatt]

Been using a Hero 11 for nearly a year now.

[@HimalayanBackpacker]

@@abhinavbhatt thanks for replying 🙏🏽

[@jeremieyirmeyahu3468]

Hi Abhinav ! I heard on other reviews the same "complain" about the "lack" of responsivness in the low ! Do you think RE will adress this issue by reprograming the ECU ?

[@abhinavbhatt]

I have no idea what RE plans to do.

[@jeremieyirmeyahu3468]

@@abhinavbhatt or another way to ask this question : do you think the responsivness can be change by electronics? I saw you changed your ecu but it just manage the mixture from what I understood

[@user-zj2tu1iq5j]

I doubt it. Beacuse, you can't change the engine's architecture and fuelling changes can only compensate to a minor extent. It's a short-stroke engine, unlike the undersquare, 1st-gen Himalayan. SS engines have only one real-world advantage over long-stroke ones: higher power output. But this high power comes at the cost of low-end torque. The H450 has a better low-end than the Duke 390. Shorter gearing is the sole option. I think RE built this bike to target the western market where the average, highway crusing-speeds range from 110 to 130 Kmph. @@jeremieyirmeyahu3468

[@leifiseland1218]

Hmm.. The front sprocket looks very easily accessible.. Changeing the front sprocket should be fairly easy eaven roadside, which would make the option of carrying an alternative front sprocket for gearing changes while travelling a rather straightforward option..🤔👍

[@abhinavbhatt]

Nobody makes a front sprocket so far and RACE doesn't sell the front sprocket as a standalone unit.

[@leifiseland1218]

@@abhinavbhatt Hmm?.. Are there some unique proprties to the front sprocket for the 450 Himalayan?.. 🤔 If not, there should be numerous produceras of sprocket around the world.. Althoug perhaps not available in India, due to trade policies?.. 🤔

[@abhinavbhatt]

@@leifiseland1218 I'm sure with time options will pop up in India and across the world.

[@rishiroger]

Yeah I second that but I have read that front sprocket downsizing lead to more chain wear.

[@Toxic88088]

While the idea of changing the front sprocket cuz it's easily accessible is good, downsizing the front sprocket creates extreme wear on the chain since the 520 pitch chain has limit to how tight it can turn. The smaller diameter 14T makes the chain go through it tighter radius that it's ment to and smaller diameter Sprocket will make the chain rub on the chain pad more often than not once the chain starts to get looser from wear and tear over the period of usage. So if you're going to keep an eye on it at all times and adjust the chain slack frequently and prepared for the premature wear on chain (which are all race bike maintenance territory) then go for it. I personally have experienced these issues when we raced RC390's and made custom 14T Sprockets for it. The chain would ate through the pad and eventually ate through the aluminium swingarm on the KTM. Too early to guess the fate of Himalayans swingarm tho, but you get the gist.

[@Suryashenoy]

Thanks for the information. Along with the advantages, what's the drawback of bigger sprocket ? Does it wear the engine due to higher torque demand? And could this devoid warranty ?

[@Toxic88088]

We're not altering the power output of the bike by changing the final drive ratio. We're only altering the peak torque/power in the rev range (early or late depending on the gearing). Don't know about warranty stuff with the RE but it definitely doesn't affect the engine as we're aren't messing with the power output of it in anyway shape of form.

[@Suryashenoy]

@@Toxic88088 I see. In that case, why didn't RE think of the bigger sprocket to improve the initial torque. Usually that's the RE characteristic right ? They usually don't bother much about the top speed.

[@Toxic88088]

​@@Suryashenoy tbh no idea why. KTM did the exact same thing as well with the ADV 390. It came with 15/45 setup. Should've came with the 15/47 setup for better low and midrange power delivery. I guess they intended it to be tourer as well and found the 47 on the re to give kinda be good at both on and off-road. They know we'll mod our bikes as well. Lol.

[@user-zj2tu1iq5j]

RE chose a taller gearing on the H450 for one reason only - better fuel economy, leading to a higher tank range. That's a feature that adventure-touring enthusiasts (target market) place a premium on@@Suryashenoy

[@mallelli99]

Also pls post any mod for side stand

[@joaoviegas9701]

Sorry, just to clarify, you've only changed the rear sprocket (not the entire kit) right?

[@abhinavbhatt]

Yeah

[@joaoviegas9701]

@@abhinavbhatt Also, do you loose top speed?

[@truthseeker992]

How is Aluminium Sprocket ₹500 costlier than Stainless steel sprocket ! 🤔

[@tashibhotiya3648]

Where is r18?

[@Natasha-mj4uz]

can you do more modifications on xpulse too

[@goa.experience]

Engine swap baaki hai uska

[@thirumaleshreddy2503]

See your bike very soon in Banglore scrap this is wt RE do frist receiving Back bike from u

[@PD-dj7cu]

Why so salty mate?

[@pranavasathyachidananda8378]

What is the Name of those mirrors?

[@abhijeetkumar7573]

Double take mirrors

[@abhishekroy910]

Next upgrade, suspension swap. Then chassis swap with a dirt bike, then 2T swap. Eventually only a plate bearing the name himalayan would be found somewhere on the motorcycle 🤣

[@user-pj1vl5nz7c]

What happened to r15 project

[@rahulbhoir1820]

It’s dead😅ig

[@rohansamuel4792]

Hey abi where did u get that seat

[@abhinavbhatt]

Royal Enfield gave it to me.

[@rohansamuel4792]

Is it possible for us to get a link or like could we as the RE if they give those seats ???

[@rvaidy51]

Abhinav, Love rhose golden wheels. Kindly share Excel rim specs for the same. Also, if i did use aluminum sprockets would i have to change the chain (material type). You are an inspiration and are making himalayan 452 more accessible to even new riders like myself. Kudos.

[@abhinavbhatt]

Hi. These are stock rims from the Handle Black variant. The chain and sprockets are 520 pitch, you won't need to change the chain if you get the aluminium sprocket.

[@pinakinshah2482]

With no laden weight. I think mr abhinav you should guide the viewer honestly as the stock chain does not fit with the change to 49 tooth sprocket. I tried it by fitting the art of motorcycle 49 tooth sprocket. But if you get a MS Sprocket of 49 tooth then two extra chain links have to be added as the chain becomes tight even after making adjustment to the full for slackening it. How you managed the stock chain setup with the 49 tooth is a big question mark? So Pl clarify & correct the loose ends to your youtube video as to its fitment.

[@Syrian-Appache]

Initial acceleration will be good but bike won't cross 145