Hindu calendar Vikram Samvat Stirs Debate Over Diwali Date | Vantage with Palki Sharma

[@ishanchakraborty1590]

Let's celebrate 2 days

[@GurjarUmesh-y9y]

It's not that confusing the way she sad 😂 today and the amavashva started yesterday around 1-2 pm and will end today evening and 1 gadi( 24min) above or low can be used to do Laxmi pujan which is the main worship so as we did yesterday on 31st oct around 6 or 7to9 was muhurat and same muhurat will be tommaroa around 6 or 7 so it's not confusing but funny when PEPOLE talk about this as some contradiction

[@ishanchakraborty1590]

@@GurjarUmesh-y9y true

[@odhip3851]

Can't complain about an extra day of binging on sweets. Gotta hit the gym tomorrow to burn those extra calories though. 😅

[@vigneshk8413]

In Tamilnadu the dates are as per the panchangam and it falls on 31st Oct.

[@Anonymous0521]

Everyone is celebrating on 31st according to panchang

[@NavneetYadavॐ09]

yes

[@Indian_Rajput]

Panchang is basically that same Calendar

[@nektar_here]

We in Jharkhand also celebrated on 31st October

[@Shivani-kw9kx]

Panchang in Hinduism is same... It is not like Tamilnadu exist on another planet.?

[@trueperson6870]

Well the amavasya (New moon night) starts on 31 oct 15:55 (3:55pm) and ends on 1 Nov 18:18 (6:18pm) IST. Thus you can celebrate between this time period. Since the night falls of 31 oct, It should be considered as main day as Diwali is festival of night. If anybody wants to do a fast on (amavasya) then, it should be done on 1 nov, as the sunrises with the new moon on that day. Nothing complicated just need understand willingly.

[@පුංචිදුවලාපුතාලටලස්සනකතන්දර]

In Buddhism, the Deva-Asura War is a conflict between the devas, or celestial beings, and the asuras, or warlike demigods: The devas and asuras fought over the dominion of the three worlds: Svarga (heaven), Bhumi (earth), and Patala (the underworld). The devas were committed to virtue and the worship of the Supreme Being(the buddha), while the asuras were atheistic and devious. The turning point: Śakra, the leader of the devas, fell in love with Sujā, the daughter of Vemacitrin, the chief of the asuras. Sujā chose Śakra as her husband, and Vemacitrin became Śakra's father-in-law. This led to a partial concord between the devas and asuras. In Buddhist cosmology, sentient beings are reincarnated into one of six worlds based on their karma. These worlds are: The world of the devas The world of the asuras The world of humans The world of animals The world of hungry ghosts The world of Hell

[@DA_0000]

As per shastras precedence is given to the day in which sunrises, hence Deep Dhan and Lakshmi pooja is being held on 1st Nov

[@trueperson6870]

@@DA_0000 Its not as simple. That rules applies on the festivals celebrated during day, or if you observe fast like Ekadashi or Shivratri, Ganesh Cahturthi etc. Lakshmi Pooja is done during Amavasya. On 1 November, Amavsya is only till 6:18pm. If you celebrate on 1 Nov make sure do pooja before 6.18pm. People who do pooja in Singha Lagna, Will celebrate on 31 Oct. Though the time of lagna is post 12 am. Around 12.30 to 1.30 am So automatically it becomes 1 Nov. As I mentioned you can celebrate between 31 oct 3.55 pm to 1 Nov 6.18 pm

[@Tenisinspector8341]

@@පුංචිදුවලාපුතාලටලස්සනකතන්දරhow is this relevant and why are you spamming this same thing all over? Almost like those annoying evangelicals

[@පුංචිදුවලාපුතාලටලස්සනකතන්දර]

@@Tenisinspector8341 It is coz I'm a spammer bro😁😁😁lol🤣🤣🤣

[@sbalasundari8300]

Can't understand why people cal the festival as Diwali instead of Deepawali which means row of lights....

[@harikrishnayadav3320]

Four reasons, 1. Lack of proper knowledge 2. Easy to pronounce/verbal laziness 3. "Cool Vibes" of English Parsi influence 4. We are calling this festival "Diwali" that's how we say you should not question. But I always prefer Deepavali

[@pravyavnav]

It's just like saying Rajput instead of Rajaputra, or Thane instead of Sthanaka. Languages evolve

[@footprintsoftime-india]

Dival literally means bankruptcy 😅 Please guys....Its DEEPAVALI 🪔

[@fullaranag]

Dia is same as Deepa.

[@VijayKumar-eh4rf]

It's bcoz of North and South language difference. In North it is Diwali and in South it is Deepavali. Just like RAAM and RAMA, Kishan and Krishna, Narasingh and Narasimha etc etc..

[@harikrishnayadav3320]

2:46 I think Paalki is wrong here. Very lazy story. Hindu calendar only add 1 lunar month as leap month once in two or three years. Not just adding 3 4 days here and there, 33 days not at all. When sun moves from one Rashi to another Rashi, it is called Sankranti. Sankranti occurs once in 30 or 31 days. Generally Sankranti occurs in every lunar month, if there is any lunar month in which Sankranti didn't occur, it is considered as leap month ar adhik maasam. And the actual month will follow after that.

[@varunp601]

There is also kshaya maas which comes every 141 years

[@harikrishnayadav3320]

@varunp601 thank you I don't know about that.

[@harikrishnayadav3320]

@@varunp601 just went and checked, next kshaya masa is in 2124, last one was in 1983. 141 years gap is not fixed, it occurs between 19 and 141 years

[@death00123]

Subh mahurat for Laxmi Poojan is from around 3:45 on 31st Oct to around 6 at evening on 1st Nov. Can celebrate anytime in-bewteen. But since Laxmi poojan is celebrated during evening is it's better to celebrate at evening on 31st Oct. That's what most of Bharat is doing.

[@harikrishnayadav3320]

@@death00123 hmm, as per our family tradition we do Pooja on the evening of Deepavali when amavasya is there cheering the midnight. Many pandit in our area do Pooja in the evening and also do Pooja at midnight.

[@shivrajd.b.p2246]

WOW !!! Superb Fantastic Great Outstanding Analysis. Our Govt must evolve the best one on the basis of Hindu lunar Calender as much of Research is done since time immemorial Jai hind Jai Bharat

[@30zoop]

Please don't call Gregorian calendar scientific, it has some of the most stupidest unscientific things. Hint research on why July and August have 31 days. The Gregorian calendar shouldn't be the official calendar of India, time to scrap it. And adopt Indian calander well suited for Indian weather and festivals. The change will take decades but one that should be done.

[@orientalguy9462]

Besides Gregory XIII repurposed the Julius calendar as the Gregorian calendar, the Julius calendar was made in 46 BC, Now the question is why Gregory XIII repurposed an already existing calendar and without crediting the original creators? maybe because the Julius calendar was created in 46 BC, so it comes from a period when Romans were pagan!

[@07feb2008]

@@orientalguy9462 *Julian

[@August-z6h]

Internationally it will be problem for India for conducting business because internationally Gregorian calendar is followed

[@30zoop]

@@August-z6h in coming decades center of business would be India so for efficiency it's imperative we adopt Indian calander. For international business we can use Gregory conversation. But the basics and ideation of any event should be indian first and then just convert to Gregorian. Currently we are thinking Gregorian first and then fit Indian events in. Not an efficient way.

[@varunp601]

​@@orientalguy9462 Gregory repurposed it for Easter to fall on Sunday every 100 years

[@dr.nandishpurli4074]

Firecrackers on diwali pollution but not on new year christmas...😊hypocrisy

[@pulkitjain8135]

Vikram Samvat isn't Hindu Calendar, its Bhartiya Calendar based on science, astronomy and logic( where day starts at actual start of the day not midnight). Not just hindu many use it. Other Bhartiya Calendar are based on Vikram Samvat with very slight difference. And Georgian calendar isn't scientific it's Christian calendar.

[@himanshuutube]

Vikram samvat is a Hindu calendar. You can create your own Jain calendar if you think your religion is different.

[@dew7731]

Palki ma'am keep on bringing such insightful topics other than "news" news, FIRSTPOST is the only one to have done this INDIAN Media. Bdw, PALKI JI YOU ARE LOOKING BEAUTIFUL as always ❤️😍

[@tradeandtussle]

Even she needs to do thorough research before presenting content, as she said india treats Gregorian calendar as the national calendar whereas Government follows Saka samvat and for non-hindu purposes Gregorian calendar. I remember some time back government did some event where they followed Saka samvat

[@death00123]

Subh mahurat for Laxmi Poojan is from around 3:45 on 31st Oct to around 6 at evening on 1st Nov. Can celebrate anytime in-bewteen. But since Laxmi poojan is celebrated during evening is it's better to celebrate at evening on 31st Oct. That's what most of Bharat is doing.

[@Mr.versatile529]

South india.. Mangalore kerala Tamilnadu follow sun's path for calendar .... So we celebrate vishu / bishu... As new year

[@satishHalemane]

Gregorian calendar is a scientific calendar 😂😂😂😂 LOL - okay 😂😂😂

[@පුංචිදුවලාපුතාලටලස්සනකතන්දර]

In Buddhism, the Deva-Asura War is a conflict between the devas, or celestial beings, and the asuras, or warlike demigods: The devas and asuras fought over the dominion of the three worlds: Svarga (heaven), Bhumi (earth), and Patala (the underworld). The devas were committed to virtue and the worship of the Supreme Being(the buddha), while the asuras were atheistic and devious. The turning point: Śakra, the leader of the devas, fell in love with Sujā, the daughter of Vemacitrin, the chief of the asuras. Sujā chose Śakra as her husband, and Vemacitrin became Śakra's father-in-law. This led to a partial concord between the devas and asuras. In Buddhist cosmology, sentient beings are reincarnated into one of six worlds based on their karma. These worlds are: The world of the devas The world of the asuras The world of humans The world of animals The world of hungry ghosts The world of Hell

[@dharmavarta]

Now , every day is 23 hour as earth changing its speed. How is this Gregorian calendar going to stay here. 😃😃😃😃

[@death00123]

Subh mahurat for Laxmi Poojan is from around 3:45 on 31st Oct to around 6 at evening on 1st Nov. Can celebrate anytime in-bewteen. But since Laxmi poojan is celebrated during evening is it's better to celebrate at evening on 31st Oct. That's what most of Bharat is doing.

[@pranav210591]

WhatsApp gyan again. Earth is slowing down due to tidal forces, which means days will become longer than 24 hours. It'll take thousands of years to become appreciable difference though. We and all our religions will be long dead by then. Cheers. ​@@dharmavarta

[@piyushpurohit8007]

Calling Gregorian Calendar Scientific shows that you are speaking about a topic which none of your team members have researched on. Among The most unscientific calendar is Gregorian calendar

[@agniswar3]

It is not perfect but definitely not unscientific either.

[@rashmibelur]

This is story only for those who celebrate Lakshmi Pooja… but there are people like us who celebrate Narakachaturdashi ( Killing of narakasura on chaturdashi), followed by Choti Deepavali on Amavasya and Balipadyami on the day of Paadya ( Vamana avatar)

[@karanpandey1349]

According to the Panchangam followed by people in Kumaon region of Uttarakhand, we are celebrating Deepawali on 1st Novemeber because the Amavasya on this day is Udayavyapani, i.e., the sunrise on this day falls in Amavasya which stays well beyond the sunset.

[@SoothingCrystalsforoptimism]

You are absolutely correct. We will celebrate on November 1st only

[@srinivasprabhakar8161]

You always give us educational contents. Thank you and your team for your efforts. Wishing Happy Deepavali.

[@පුංචිදුවලාපුතාලටලස්සනකතන්දර]

In Buddhism, the Deva-Asura War is a conflict between the devas, or celestial beings, and the asuras, or warlike demigods: The devas and asuras fought over the dominion of the three worlds: Svarga (heaven), Bhumi (earth), and Patala (the underworld). The devas were committed to virtue and the worship of the Supreme Being(the buddha), while the asuras were atheistic and devious. The turning point: Śakra, the leader of the devas, fell in love with Sujā, the daughter of Vemacitrin, the chief of the asuras. Sujā chose Śakra as her husband, and Vemacitrin became Śakra's father-in-law. This led to a partial concord between the devas and asuras. In Buddhist cosmology, sentient beings are reincarnated into one of six worlds based on their karma. These worlds are: The world of the devas The world of the asuras The world of humans The world of animals The world of hungry ghosts The world of Hell

[@IndicThoughts8]

With time everything is coming out for the public it feels great...🤝👍

[@OutInTheBuyah]

What?

[@kshitija1411]

How beautifully explained. Thank you so much for this

[@12440jayjay]

Happy Diwali to you Palki and to all your viewers!

[@waltervetri2476]

We are celebrating Deepavali today in South Africa. Well, we are as South Indians.Syntax and semantics about Diwali deepavali, I don't know. Anyways to my Indian brothers and sisters, Happy Deepavali /Diwali, your choice❤❤ 4:07

[@arunshah7171]

Excellent knowledge on DIWALI- why it is not fixed DATE

[@b2wme]

It's a fixed date as per Indian calendar. The confusion was only on how to map it to the English calendar as amavasya starts from Oct31st afternoon and span till Nov1st. So a particular section prefers celebrating on Nov 1st.

[@rajjena9053]

As said moon and sun cycle.

[@darsh-q9x]

Because time is not static it's changing

[@GAMINGBLAZE]

It is still okay Diwali usually falls in October or November . But fun fact Eid actually does not have any fix date or month at all, sometimes summer sometimes winter.

[@death00123]

Subh mahurat for Laxmi Poojan is from around 3:45 on 31st Oct to around 6 at evening on 1st Nov. Can celebrate anytime in-bewteen. But since Laxmi poojan is celebrated during evening is it's better to celebrate at evening on 31st Oct. That's what most of Bharat is doing.

[@vish2553]

Normally Palki is very factual but so many distortions about Hindu calendars. Gregorian calendar is anything but scientific.

[@manindramohankar5234]

Our Hindu calander is totally scientific. We're proud of it. 31st October and 1st November, both days are Deepavali. What's wrong with it? I don't find any problem.

[@ninadtaralekar]

Great insights on the Calendars and how Hindu calendar have festivals planned according to solar system events

[@comedytracks647]

Lets celebrate 2 days wohooooo boom🎉🎉

[@NikitaSharma-bs4gg]

This year all occasions were like this 😅 our family celebrated both days overlapping festivals

[@S7evn201]

Then celebrate Deepawali both on 31st and 1st😊. Yippee 2 days of Deepawali.

[@brijeshshah574]

Thanks for sharing knowledgeable insightful. Happy Diwali & Happy New Year to 1st Post team.😊

[@binaryxd4812]

I love deepawali. No mater what dates different states of India choose. It just brings lot of positivity in my life no matter how depressed I am with my personal issues.. Jai Shree Siya Ram.

[@vaishalikaparejoshi8683]

We remain united in our desire to bend time! Love Palki’s news endings with sharp concluding one liners!

[@VivekKumar-ge2us]

Beautifully explained 👍👍👍👍👍

[@nj082]

Appreciate such insightful content. I follow Firstpost due to good news coverage along with these insightful content

[@VivekKumar-ge2us]

Happy Deepawali to all Wion staff particularly Palki Sharma Ji 🙏💐🙏💐🙏💐

[@sonalpatil3954]

We are celebrating Laxmi pujan on 1st of November ❤

[@pinchutube]

Yep, calanders are really fascinating with fascinating looking facts coming out from what's app university. Like Makara Sankramana happens on 15th at some auspicious years with very large intervals and so on and so many more. No doubt this helped me in learning that Makara sankramana falls on 15th January during leap years like the current year...

[@premdivyagahlot4018]

Shubh dipawali palki ji and whole first post team.

[@infinite.eternity]

As a hindu rastra, india should use Vikram Sambat officially and nationally

[@promishshrestha9006]

As a Hindu Rastra only Nepal use Bikram Sambat 🇳🇵

[@Krishnamarga50]

I wanted to reply the same.​@@promishshrestha9006

[@mzanpure]

The Shaka Samvat is a Lunar Calendar. The one the Indian Government follows is BASED on the Lunar Shaka Samvat but adjusted to be a Luni Solar Calendar.

[@aleyammarenjiv7978]

. But nobody use AD or BC. It is CE ( common era and BCE , before common era. Even christmas celebrated in different days. Western countries 25th December Russian orthodox and some other churches 6th January. Easter also dont have a fixed date. It is the first Sunday after full moon after spring equinox. Most of the religions follow lunar calendar.

[@ashokshenoy4831]

Uff, the last line " we remain united in our desire to bend time" . 😎 time travel next in line

[@DA_0000]

As per shastras precedence is given to the day in which sunrises. Amavasya tithi sunrise is happening on friday. Hence Deep Dhan and Lakshmi pooja is being held on 1st Nov

[@realSamarthT]

Nope, it valid only for ekadashi, Vijayadashami etc. festivals. Diwali is celebrated in pradosh time, that is time after sunset, amavasya time

[@lovesharma4883]

Our family decided to celebrate on both days. ❤🎉

[@samvedna7153]

I don't understand why is this even a debate.Problem is that you all are trying to adjust Western Calendar with Hindu calendar. Our festivals are based on Hindu Calendar not per Western. So celebrate per Hindu calendar. Simple.

[@rajjena9053]

Thanks for the detailed information

[@mehul050]

Came here for the calendar debate, stayed for its history and significance.

[@bhagwatpratik2]

We follow the Shalivahan Shaka Calendar and not Vikram Samvat in Maharashtra. It is also the National Calendar of India.

[@bhagwatpratik2]

The Shalivahan calendar was started by Satvahana King Satkarni after defeating Shakas. It is a Luni-Solar Calendar. It is the most precise. It follows the Amanta system and not Purninanta, which means Chaitra is the first month of the year. The new year is on Gudi Padwa.

[@drodro7672]

North Indian biases,... MH/KA/TL/AP and Goa are using the luni-solar Shalivahana calendar, whereas the more southern TN & KL are using completely solar Tamil or Malayali/Kollam Varsha calendars. P.S : But the not-glancing of these can maybe due to short-time limit and worldwide coverage interest.

[@harikrishnayadav3320]

She can't addicted herself because in the starting she mentioned Vikram samvat and in the middle she mentioned saka.

[@arweyn1]

@@bhagwatpratik2 spot on with Satkarni establishing an epoch for starting a new era !!! There is a small correction that I would like to submit. The calendar was not starte by Satkarni - he marked the beginning of a new era on an already existing Luni-Solar calendar that had been established by Mayasura since 6772 BC - reference the Surya Siddhanta. The "Amanta" system uses the Amavasya (New Moon day) to mark the beginning of the month...conversely the Purninanta system used the Purnima (Full Moon day). It is important to note that the phases out by a fortnight, but the period of the month is same in both systems. To measure cyclicity, imagine a circle - where is the beginning? The beginning is at the end of the circle. They marked the "beginning/end" differently. The synchronization of Chaitra as the start - this has to do with the start of seasons. For where the Satavahanas ruled, this helped define the start of Spring. This helped them predict the time of the monsoon - the most important Annual event for Bharata. Of course there are other soft connotations/contexts as to why the Amanta/ Purininanta, Chaitra start or other month starts - more emotional that scientific. For instance Mayasura who defined the Luni-Colar Calendar was an "Asura". Well, you know how it is ... Asuras are supposed to be bad. So try to discard/discredit them .. Amavasya is "Dark" so choose Purnima - "Bright". Start is vernal equinox - Chaitra start... this list goes on. But one thing they could not discard is the scientific basis of Mayasura's calendar. They called it a different name and used it. They used different start dates to suit their geographies/seasons. Do look up Dr. C.K. Raju, Vedveer Arya, Nilesh Neelkanth Oak, Rupa Bhatia and others for on this and the fascinating domain of calendars, epoch, time events, cyclicity, dating of Mahabharata, start of Kaliyuga etc. Amazing work these people have done in a way we common folks can understand. Thank you very much.

[@aleyammarenjiv7978]

In Kerala, they have their own calendar . Hindu brotherin fix theeir wedding and all specialoccasions are according to the birth star and month. .

[@NARAYAN0512]

I think your video doesn't match with the caption.... I wasn't here to learn Calenders but the date of Deepawali 2024.... Most content was irrelevant and obsolete 🙏🙏 Happy Diwali 🎇🪔🎇🪔

[@pallavi3]

Every year as we follow the thithi and this leads to the confusion we as sanatani are extraordinary so welcome to the ♣

[@SyanBhatia]

"Let's start with the basics, what is a calendar?" - can't stop laughing 🤣🤣🤣 Happy Diwali and Bandi Chhor Diwas to all

[@death00123]

Subh mahurat for Laxmi Poojan is from around 3:45 on 31st Oct to around 6 at evening on 1st Nov. Can celebrate anytime in-bewteen. But since Laxmi poojan is celebrated during evening is it's better to celebrate at evening on 31st Oct. That's what most of Bharat is doing.

[@JayPatel-fo4ss]

Gregorian calendar is not a Christian calendar but a misappropriated Roman pagan calendar which was concocted in 525AD and so had no years prior to that, just extrapolated ones. It has no relation to Christ’s birth as it was the Jewish calender used by people in that part of the world. Christ’s birth was not recorded in that calender either but postulated from the season he was born in. Furthermore, the so called Xmas was a pagan celebration which was also misappropriated into so called Christian calendar to fool people. Please, Palki, educate yourself on this subject properly.

[@harishankar-vm6sy]

@firstpost it's not Hindu calender it's ancient sanatan calender

[@anandkanhere5193]

I am confused, how old am I ? 😂😂

[@WandaVision19]

Thank you for the information

[@swapnilsaraf5076]

It is pronounced more like 'Shake' Shubh Deepawali to all. Shaka calendar is used in Maharashtra, Goa. Thailand also uses it.

[@anooradharavi2927]

Indeed fascinating

[@KaiMia-xc9lk]

Muhurat and thithi are important! Never mess with it. It is as per the movements of the universe and its planetary system 🙏🏼🇮🇳🕉️

[@Marshmellow-n1j]

lol, why go to a black hole when we can time travel by travelling countries around 🤣

[@kanuriprasad9274]

Amazing anecdote: we remain united to bend time “

[@vasistakj]

Again another good info video. thanks. It would be great if you say few words same as in Samskrutha or any local indian language. Its not Vikram Samvat , it is Vikrama Samvatsara (Samvatsara )

[@vik7248]

I beg please someone resolve this confusion of Hindu festival days. Why can’t the whole country decide on the date before.

[@RamasArrow]

Deepawali Is celebrated at night, and 31st night it is. On 1st nov, Amavasya passes before evening.

[@anantharao3573]

Lets embrace the difference and document the reasoning for future reference. Hope every bharat'an can unite in a single stand as a nation inspite of the difference. Difference is like colors in the nation, its beautiful, not monotonous.

[@mattdamon2084]

Dammn its now international news❤😂😂i like how Vikram samvat getting recognised

[@jubinvora]

Nice info, good to know

[@moshcon]

The Gregorian calendar is NOT based on scientific consensus and it has deep roots in European Christendom...for a detailed discussion re. this from an Indic perspective please take the time to see this excellent video by Prof. C.K. Raju...kzbin.info/www/bejne/gnvbm2lnndxqsJIsi=M5q_FjGlbSfbJYv7

[@nitballu]

Palkiji is a bit wrong here. India has two official calenders. Greogorian and Indian National Calendar. Both are used in official docs but not used by public. Also, she wrongly interpreted that Indians made amendments in Islamic calendar. Hindu Calendar (any time) predates Islamic calendar and India always preferred Luni-Solar calenders. Better she would have researched properly.

[@poojasingla9693]

3:20 Palki Sharma ji you have incorrectly used "scientific" "solar" for gregorian calendar. Its "irrational" and "catholic" caledar. See the ck raju podcast with abhijit chavda.

[@VisheshDudheria]

time division is very complex but very important

[@UdayGupta-f5v]

Bengal also follows the Vishuddh Siddhant and Gupta Press calendars. Therefore you sometimes have absurd things like Durga Puja (and Diwali) falling on completely different days separated by WEEKS !

[@varshakaurav]

There is no confusion, we do Lakshmi pooja in evening time and on 31st amavasya is whole night and on 1st amavasya is till 4-5 pm , so obviously diwali is on 31st

[@ranigovender3252]

Lets celebrate for 5 days 🎉🎉🎉

[@JENICOOKINGCHANNEL-e4x]

The Festival is called Deepavali and Not Diwali deepavali means festival Lights where as Diwali sounds like Dival which means Bankruptcy

[@san-chil]

Don't take a chance !!! Celebrate Deepawali on all the dates. Eat Mithai and light up the firecrackers ....on all the days.

[@jayanthiramasubramaniam6765]

In Tamilnadu today is Deepavli and today is narakachathurthi day..

[@arweyn1]

The Vikram and Saka calendars are nothing but following a luni-solar calendar. The basis of this Luni-solar calendar goes back to 6772 BC as established by Mayasura - in the Surya Siddhanta. Vikram and Saka are just markers on this calendar where Kings/Emperors declared epoch markers - i.e. start of a new era starting from 1. Yes, on this calendar you can have many markers. Such markers are need to suit geographies. For instance, the "Chinese" Calendar is wht same Luni-Solar calendar but with a different start i.e. New Year. There is no way that the fractionality of the earth-sun revolution cycle can be reconciled to whole number days within a single sun-earth revolution cycle. The natural cycles are based on the Moon AND the Sun's rotation. Precise calculations and corrections are required to sync up with these cycles and adjust them to day period... We cannot mark partial days - no such human instinctive mechanisms. The "Hindu" calendar you refer to is actually the Luni-Solar calendar that reflects very closely the cyclicity on the Lunar-Solar interactions. This calendar has nothing to do with "Hindu" - it is not a religious calendar ... it just happens to be used by Hindus. Usage does not make it religious .. the basis is a scientific cyclicity. As in any scientific process, corrections and refinements are a continuous thing. The Gregorian Calendar was introduced by Pope Gregory to help the Christians celebrate Easter at the right time. It is a RELIGIOUS CALENDAR and NOT SCIENTIFIC. They could even handle fractions and utterly incapable of understanding the subtle interplay between two periodic cycles of the Moon and the Sun which could never be phase-locked to whole day cycles. A calendar should help in marking a position of the earth in space and hence tell the absolute time. But what is a "position" ? It needs a reference - like the 0,0 in our current mathematics of the so called "cartesian" system. Everything is measured with the 0,0. Space is a much more complicated domain. The other calendar that the "Hindus" have is called the Nakshatra calendar. This is used to mark the absolute time wrt the stars which are more or less fixed within the timelines of 10s of thousands of year. The also need to be corrected for over long durations and have been done .. for instance removing Abhijit from our Nakshatra system. Today we used 27 starts instead of 28. Relative time that you referred to .. i.e. is it noon or not is more of a measure required by humans and also to observe naturals cycles. Natural cycles work on relative time. What is this? An insect sleeps for a certain number of hours. It does not need a "Hindu"/Gregorian/Vikram Samvat etc to do so. All it needs (its internal mecanish) is when it started its sleep and how much time has elapsed - when it has to wake up. The cyclicity needs relative elapsed time calculators. That is for another days - should you wish. This is my long but humble submission. Thank you for the read !!!

[@vpmanoharan2274]

A very educative one and pl fwd to the West.

[@raj-034]

I don't understand why don't people accept diversity. Celebrate as per your calendar. In India,different regions have different calendars solar and lunar, let them follow their local culture and have fun and memories. If you want celebrate both days and have double enjoyment this time.Happy Deepawali🎉

[@themboys304]

Experts gathered 😂😂😂. In this country of all the problems, this is the news 😂😂😂😂. Happy Diwali to everyone.

[@arjunreddy226]

We celebrated yesterday 😁

[@dharmavarta]

Listen to Sri Jagatguru Shankaracharya ji. Amavasya is both 31st October and 1st November.

[@_Rishabh_honeybadger]

what an interesting topic , different from the usual

[@LotusPost]

But what is Panchang? Is it a calendar??

[@ithedimpleboi]

There is no confusion in Nepal, because no other calender is much used except Bikram Samwat ❤❤

[@tradeandtussle]

Government follows Saka samvat and for non-hindu purposes Gregorian calendar. I remember some time back government did some event where they followed Saka samvat

[@hawaldra9788]

Yes palki sharma jee this 6 day but first time we see imdian market opne full day 😂❤

[@arweyn1]

The main reason there is "confusion" is that fact that the you have not defined what a calendar is for. Should we start with a definition that a calendar is used to mark "absolute" time .. we need a sheet anchor. This "sheet anchor" defines the start. How can sheet anchor be "absolute" if it occurs in a changing framework? That is why for this purpose the framework of our spatial backdrop is used. This has given rise to the Luni-Solar Calendar. This helps to mark the "passage" of time - if I may - the relative time-distance from the "sheet Anchor". By definition the reference has to be external to the frame we are referring to. Hence, any system that is internal to a referring frame CANNOT be used as a "sheet anchor". The vagaries of the luni-solar, stellar and other cyclicity are discussed in my previous post. Over thousands of years, this will have to be adjusted because even the spatial reference points (of stellar positions) will change.

[@varunp601]

One year is measured for equinox to equinox, equinox happens for a moment, hencee easy to keep reference instrad of a whole day

[@apostropheuse6216]

Super interesting

[@rallyworld3417]

Source ... Ncert 😂😂😂😂 If Hindu calender is not perfect then why karwa chauth Chaand date always fall on that night???

[@truthfinder8652]

if Christmas can be celebrated for 12the Dec. to 12th Jan, then why don't celebrate Diwali 2 days this time..

[@think-vj]

Apologise palki and firstpost, your lack of understanding on how hindu calendars work is clearly evident.

[@ss-db8ie]

There are many hindu calenders which is why we have so many new years

[@Edward4Plantagenet]

Victory ,,,,, of Good over Evil, Light over Darkness, ✴️ Knowledge over Ignorance, 📚📖 Happy Deepawali 🎇🪔🎇🪔🎇🪔🎇🪔 🎇

[@akashsalaria9683]

Exactly , let's celebrate for 2 days...🎉🎉😂😂😂😂

[@brilstro7621]

There's is only one calendar....and its before or after Maha Chakravarthi Vikram

[@ranigovender3252]

Billions will celebrate on 31st October going into the 1st November

[@Savemegod-t4q]

Happy diwali to firstpost team and specially to palki ji for giving us a very informative live vantage thanks

[@gsks_]

You called out on when Islam and Christian calendars were incepted but no info about Hindu calendars.

[@RahulKumar-de9cd]

happy diwali maam