Hinge CEO: Why Some People Get Dates & Other People Don’t!

Justin McLeod is the CEO and founder of the dating app Hinge, which has over 20 million users and sets up a date every 3 seconds.
00:00 Intro
02:16 My Addiction & Going to Rehab
05:27 12 Step Programme for Addiction
07:45 How My Love Experiences Influenced My Entrepreneurial Journey
12:31 Founding Hinge
15:55 How Do We Know Which Ideas to Go After?
19:00 When Did the App Form?
23:44 Tinder and How It Impacted Hinge
27:37 The Interview That Changed My Life
34:23 The New Era for Hinge
37:05 How to Be Successful on Hinge
39:05 What Is Hinge Labs?
43:00 The Worst Things to Do in Dating Apps
44:12 Advice for People Going on Loads Of Dates
47:39 Dating Apps Want People to Stay Single to Have More Customers…
49:32 How Has the Dating World Changed in the Last Few Years?
50:40 Hinge First Principles
51:57 The Importance of Taking Risks
01:00:47 How to Have Great Company Culture
01:17:25 Biggest Hiring Mistakes
01:19:51 What the Future of Dating Apps Looks Like
01:21:42 The Last Guest Question
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[@TheDiaryOfACEO]

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[@hwr9871]

Hey Steven, I'd love to see you interview Gary Stevenson, thanks for another great episode!

[@turtletom8383]

Stop with this fake ass soft approach "can you do me a favor" it's not a favor but it is feminine type manipulation. Man up. Stop acting like it's a favor for you when it's not you it's a for profit business where it would seem using soft manipulation tactics make you money. Hoookur

[@STST]

Have you thought about the channel direction now its becoming obvious that you peddle people that spread false information just for clicks and views? One week your guest "expert" totally contradicts the next. I'm surprised as such a great business man that you haven't realised this podcast is now a sinking ship that's lost a lot of credibility these last few months,..

[@michellekalski8823]

@@STSTI like that he has a variety of viewpoints. It’s not really about promoting a specific narrative, but exploring each persons ideology and journey. Let the viewers decide what ideology they want to follow. I find the variety quite democratic actually.

[@STST]

@@michellekalski8823 I understand your points. I think any type of false info should have no platform at all. The guests should be vetted better. The "experts" can cause people genuine damage in their own lives with medical information that isn't correct. A lot of the more recent guests especially are becoming rather worrying. I think there needs to be a disclaimer that a lot of information given isn't factual and should not be taken as so. There's a lot of people that just believe an "expert" Nobody here ever shows actual evidence of any of the claims. It should be stated for people to understand clearly that some of the information should not be taken as fact as it is ALWAYS presented.

[@Begeru]

Hearing that story about how he got his girlfriend back and marrying her is depressing tbh. Imagine being that dude who was supposed to marry finding out she just randomly cancelled their wedding to get back with her ex 😂. Like completely blindsided.

[@fs5775]

yep, I kept thinking about that poor dude who basically gets ditched at the altar when his girl's ex-BF Harvard tech bro shows up in the 11th hour to sweep her off her feet ffs....

[@Redford444]

I think this guy is actually gay

[@thegardener3650]

Agreed. That’s really messed up and stupid of the fiancé.

[@jordanlee-brown8202]

He’s probably a big fan of this podcast 😩😂

[@TV-oc4ml]

He’s an absolute snake. The best part is they had to ‘work’ on the relationship, meaning they most likely incompatible lol😂

[@viktorgoa]

wow he ruined a guy's marriage, and thousands dating experience. What a success story!

[@Ali01007]

True. She’s also terrible human being really.

[@koshka02]

not really, the woman did lol the woman here is trash

[@Aia-ky7uh]

yeah and who would use an app who clearly knows that dating apps are not where you meet your partner but utilises it as a money grab, what a loser, never use dating apps. Who would use an app where the guy who made it stole and cheated someone else's fiancé? Do you trust someone like that? Only heard lots of bad stories from this app including them leaving on sexual assault reported men on there, women stay clear!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@freddieellis5144]

lol 3 years is nothing, wait until he cheats. yeah and who would use an app who clearly knows that dating apps are not where you meet your partner but utilises it as a money grab, what a loser, never use dating apps. Who would use an app where the guy who made it stole and cheated someone else's fiancé? Do you trust someone like that? Only heard lots of bad stories from this app including them leaving on sexual assault reported men on there, women stay clear!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@jordancole8981]

He totally lied when he said "I don't know about height". He has the data on filters. This makes me question his credibility through the whole episode.

[@butterfly1873]

He was saying he doesn’t but that 6’ on a man is a must have for most women. I agree with him I’d like someone taller than me but doesn’t have he 6’

[@doggo660]

@@butterfly1873 have talked to a lot of women. 6' is not a must for most women, but normally the man should be taller.

[@bro918]

Yeah... a few of the apps have released data on which heights women filter out. He very much knows.

[@SiL-sp9tk]

​ @theeggtimertictic1136 lol 3 years is nothing, wait until he cheats. yeah and who would use an app who clearly knows that dating apps are not where you meet your partner but utilises it as a money grab, what a loser, never use dating apps. Who would use an app where the guy who made it stole and cheated someone else's fiancé? Do you trust someone like that? Only heard lots of bad stories from this app including them leaving on sexual assault reported men on there, women stay clear!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@freddieellis5144]

lol 3 years is nothing, wait until he cheats. yeah and who would use an app who clearly knows that dating apps are not where you meet your partner but utilises it as a money grab, what a loser, never use dating apps. Who would use an app where the guy who made it stole and cheated someone else's fiancé? Do you trust someone like that? Only heard lots of bad stories from this app including them leaving on sexual assault reported men on there, women stay clear!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@chadn2387]

This man lied Like a pro . Props to his pr team for his media training. 😂

[@verb0ze]

Lol right? There might have been a time he believed in those things he said, but when VC funding comes in, all that goes out the door. Hinge these days is more concerned with extracting as many $$ out of poor lonely souls than creating matches, their monetization schemes speak for themselves.

[@oooodaxteroooo]

Them partnering with google etc fot accounts is way beyond my comfort zone. I dont care about who is Kate. She isnt there to show her incredible love.

[@recca7]

​@verb0ze well I only got off it two months ago cause I'm seeing someone, prior to that I've been dating around casually for years and I can attest hinge is the least money grubbing dating app of the lot. Unless something has drastically changed in the past two months I would rank hinge at the top then bumble. The rest have pretty much become pay to play, bot filled garbage

[@nO_d3N1AL]

Yeah he seems like a real douchebag tbh

[@user-oj9nf2hd6i]

Add to that the endless fake profiles that generate more $ by selling a lie.

[@rupey4582]

Good to put a face to one of those who have contributed to irreversibly ruining dating through encouraging shallow preferences and too many options. Hope the bank balance is worth it, cheers mate!

[@Martin-rh7mf]

Precisely

[@purplegirl8036]

And he’s not even super hot

[@Begeru]

so if dating apps didn't exist dating culture would be fine?

[@Vivi_9]

Hinge is great, if you can't be successful on it you're the problem

[@Atimo133]

lol@@Vivi_9

[@Jane-yj1to]

Loneliness is an inner battle. Surround yourself with things you truly love and everything will be ok. Don't focus on the loneliness, you will miss everything.

[@ariesbull]

After many years alone I no longer understand lonely. Why did I need someone else? I feel I was weak.

[@mirjamweibel9678]

I am forever alone 😅 but I would never ever use a dating app. I also don’t like dating very much.

[@ariesbull]

@@mirjamweibel9678 I feel the same. Dating is essentially two people who are admittedly lacking, complete with expectations of how to fill their void. Meeting someone knowing there are expectations I find uncomfortable. If you were to somehow fit in with someone’s life naturally that would be the way.

[@mikeeinstein1]

I love podcasts that don't have super long introductions. Chris Williamson is the standard

[@davescott9062]

Watch when the CEO of hinge is asked, what about the meme going around that women prefer and swipe right on men over 6 feet tall? Watch him look up and to the left, a clear sign someone is lying. He cant have the truth put out there about women's preferences because he would loose half of his app user's. Dating apps have ruined the dating market. The reality of the statistics have settled in, women find 80% of men unattractive, and actually date the top 5% If you are not at least 5'10" dont bother with dating apps. Ask people out in person.

[@fs5775]

And what of men's preferences? If she's 40+ she might as well be dead no matter how attractive. Don't bother with apps. She'll only get attention of unattractive guys 60+ ...all dudes feel entitled to the 23 year olds

[@Scoop777]

In most cases except a few, I don’t think dating apps really work.

[@davescott9062]

@@Scoop777 dating apps work, according to the data collected from them, for about 5% of men. Go direct and ask women out in person, go monk, use pros, whatever floats your boat, but apps are a waste of time.

[@MsRandieK]

Interesting… I never had a mold for who I would date. I was over dating for a long time & really not wanting a relationship. Last year I met a man who is maybe an inch taller than me !! I’ve never dated a shorter man … I’m over 6” heels 👠 so alls good! However, I know lots of women who have a mold for their perfect man sitting at home alone 🤷‍♀️

[@emilyl.771]

@@MsRandieKsomething my (shorter) man told me; “makes no difference when you’re both lying down” and yes we met on a dating app!

[@franklinhopkinsjr1065]

I’ve been married for 36 years. Hopefully I won’t ever need a dating app.

[@theeggtimertictic1136]

I'm married 27 years and felt the same until my daughter found her perfect match on Hinge. They're together 3 years.

[@TK-fm5ud]

@@theeggtimertictic1136 Maybe she’ll feel different on 27 years

[@cliffthecoolcat]

Dating apps are a place where people with poor social skills, are damaged, or passed overs congregate.

[@ebbyc1817]

@@theeggtimertictic1136 give us an update in another four years.

[@Aia-ky7uh]

​@@theeggtimertictic1136lol 3 years is nothing, wait until he cheats. yeah and who would use an app who clearly knows that dating apps are not where you meet your partner but utilises it as a money grab, what a loser, never use dating apps. Who would use an app where the guy who made it stole and cheated someone else's fiancé? Do you trust someone like that? Only heard lots of bad stories from this app including them leaving on sexual assault reported men on there, women stay clear!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@ChristinaGrayyt]

I feel like DOAC dropped the ball on this one. Hinge is all about making money, NOT love. I paid for the app hoping it would allow me to match with more people I was interested in. Nope. They are behind a rose wall even when you pay. Its absolutely wild they dont show everyone evenly. Did no one on your team double-check to see if he's for real?? This is a profit based app plain and simple.

[@betweenworlds4869]

So the founder of Hinge stole someone’s fiance a few months before the wedding. And Steven describes it as a “fairytale ending”. #CEOmorality

[@ChiCityLady]

TBH, if she was willing to break the engagement to get back with her ex, the marriage was probably going to be terrible anyways. He saved the groom from a bad marriage and divorce costs

[@Nope-gw7kc]

She's a gold digger if all it took was one coffee to break an entire engagement. Yikes

[@fs5775]

my hopes aren't high for the relationship with Hinge tech bro either @@ChiCityLady

[@thepursuitofknowledge5245]

​@Nope-gw7kc my thoughts exactly. Shes not yours. Its just your turn

[@kiloeras1]

So true

[@Jinkaza1882]

Is Hinge on a PR trip? An interview on NPR yesterday and now this. That lawsuit has got them running.

[@Susan-id5xj]

What's the suit about?

[@Susan-id5xj]

Just looked it up .Why wouldn't people just delete the apps after getting into a relationship?

[@Jinkaza1882]

@@Susan-id5xj For some they are always looking for an "upgrade" to their present situation. "The grass is greener" is a helluva drug.

[@Aia-ky7uh]

​ @theeggtimertictic1136 lol 3 years is nothing, wait until he cheats. yeah and who would use an app who clearly knows that dating apps are not where you meet your partner but utilises it as a money grab, what a loser, never use dating apps. Who would use an app where the guy who made it stole and cheated someone else's fiancé? Do you trust someone like that? Only heard lots of bad stories from this app including them leaving on sexual assault reported men on there, women stay clear!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@Jane-yj1to]

Tech and data sometimes can seem so sterile, and just data driven. It can have stigma of being emotionless and bad but you can have a real connection. It's such a powerful tool because you can connect with people across the country and the world! This is so great! Coming from a place that wasn't on the app train, I have been discovering and it's been so much fun! You just have to filter out what you don't match with😁 Thank you for sharing this 🙏

[@user-yb5oc6zi9o]

I was on Hinge for a while and and 90% of the faces were the same the entire month. I didn't get any new names until I needed to resubscribe. Suddenly dozens of faces appeared that I could not contact. I don't like the business model.

[@hahamasala]

It's like a slow drip of heroin. That's what all these apps do. It's cruel and there should be a class action lawsuit against all of them

[@Chris-tz9ct]

Apps are the problem. If there were no apps people would talk and listen and be more natural . People are attracted to good looking people and thats just the way it is and if you dont have a face that fits then you have no chance and that leaves a lot of people especially men single and alone .

[@laraking804]

I agree that apps don’t work. The problem is that all you have to evaluate a match is a picture so of course the only thing you’re going to evaluate the person by is looks. In real life there are so many things that override looks. A terrible personality would make a good looking person ugly and a good personality increases attractiveness. There is also the demeanour, the voice, the accent, facial expressions, how they move, their sense of humour, the list is endless. All this affect the overall attractiveness for us women. Someone who is a 4 in a photo can be a 10 if our humour syncs and he makes me laugh. You cant find this on an app.

[@SuspensionTruth]

@@laraking804@chris-tz9ct Exactly - there's no incentive for politeness, courtesy, or authenticity when you meet and 'having a talking stage' online. It's fake. Personality, vibe, someone's smell, mannerisms only really come through when you're right in front of them.

[@mkorpalart5828]

I can argue, where I was living before was a very isolated village. I met my current partner on Hinge, he's only just relocated back to the country and didn't know anyone. For me it was a success. But honestly I wouldn't join the app if I was living elsewhere.

[@billb5865]

Facts, especially phones

[@purplegirl8036]

I think apps are ok but the problem is people don’t answer all of the questions for their profile and expect people to take them seriously. They put just looking for something casual and expect to find something other than casual. A lot of people use it just for sex. There’s also a lot of love scammers from other countries but the main problem is lack of accountability. If you don’t want a woman who is overweight then stop being overweight. If you want a woman who doesn’t sleep with everyone then stop sending sick pics and leading with sex.

[@OutGunnd]

Dating apps have destroyed our world

[@lilithcampbell2112]

Lol, no. People are just shitty, what else is new? Dating has always sucked, ghosting is not new. That's why people settle for the relationship they are in even if it's miserable. Also, when you're older (35+) everyone single has kids or just not capable of keeping a relationship going in the first place (me) or WORSE, rushing to settle down because, they're desperate to have kids before it's too late. Sad, but staying single is just easier.

[@recca7]

To an extent but speaking as an introvert, I would have never have gotten the comfort and security of being myself whilst meeting with strangers in person. I had to make many mistakes over and over until I just didn't care about rejection and understood how to play the game

[@averyintelligence]

your world. my world is full of beauty and opportunity

[@PtolemyXVII]

I don’t know what it is but there’s something about this hinge guy in which he seems like he’s lying or at least exaggerating the truth to such a degree it becomes a fun story…🤔

[@Martin-rh7mf]

You're too intuitive. Most others are inspired by his privileged drama. Yep, it's a fun story ☑️

[@Begeru]

yea the details in which he explains his life stories are like him pitching a script for a movie deal

[@Vivi_9]

Nah you're just a cynical doomer

[@Redford444]

He seems to be homosexual. No ?

[@Martin-rh7mf]

This thread is the deepest of them all 😂 🏳️‍🌈

[@KT-kd1gr]

So the guy who created the app, never needed the app to find love.

[@fs5775]

oh the irony... yet the guy who has his fiancé stolen by Hinge founder probably now needs one

[@thepursuitofknowledge5245]

Oh, but he did. If he wasnt a successful app ceo who could fly to zurich on a whim, would she have monkey branched?

[@hferrari7553]

I don’t eat sweets, but I still buy them for people who do.

[@ebbyc1817]

@@thepursuitofknowledge5245 'monkey-branched' is such a great, metaphor.

[@blablablabla542]

@@thepursuitofknowledge5245 LMAO my first thoughts exactly, left her fiancé for the richer dude HAHA, right after he had raised 20m for his app.

[@anrenes3459]

Gosh, I can hardly watch this with how many times he says “like”

[@VaronPlateando]

that's how the xx.s primarily (ab)using, and (hypergamy-and ego-wise) benefitting from, and catered to in his 'services' and alike would verbalise selves either. see eg piles of tktk-clip analyses by gents who make yt-based income in bravely standing all the cræp. i.e. the 'trenches' reconnaissance' part of manosphere content, rather than more philosophical etc. others. but as long as urges for xx.s drive gents into related traps, such analyses stay in utter need.

[@mirandaandrea8215]

Winds me up to!

[@mariedumas5729]

Like … lack of confidence still showing

[@thematassutkusshow]

The lady was just about to marry someone and somehow she "magically" changes her mind last minute per say to call off the wedding and "wants/decides" now to be with Justin all of a sudden after they have a long catch up in Switzerland for hours and hours on after not seeing each other for years prior, as Justin shares more of his stories to her how he's gained more massive success in business, life, financially and etc. Whilst it's admirable and good to see/hear that he's made progress for himself for more positive personal growth in all areas of life. It does make you think though, how much of a "coincidence" it is that this lady has now magically changed her mind so fast (in the grand scheme of things) to not marry the previous genlteman who she had a mortgage/place with already and lived together. There was a valuable point in this story that I think might have gone over most peoples heads. C'est la vi.

[@TV_SGV]

“celebrate getting out of rehab by going drinking” Such a true statement. thanks for sharing 😊

[@brigittaseeberger6057]

I am using hinge for months, no luck at all ! Ppl just ghosting and most profile is fake ! Don’t know which one is worse hinge or bumble

[@SM7Lvlogs]

… how about matchmaking through KZbin? 😂

[@elizabethc9406]

KZbin dating is a good idea but it needs to be interactive. Stephen could set this up!

[@elizabethc9406]

Tbh dating sites are all the same the majority of people are not serious, and they are mainly hook up rubbish. Where women do not respect themselves and men do not respect women. Hence the dxx pictures sent. Lack of dates as when people actually meet they hook up at each other's houses. Women feel let down . Dating apps work for the few and lucky.

[@lauriepeifer7297]

@@elizabethc9406 if women would stop hooking up so easily (meaning all of us) men would take us more seriously and have no choice but to shape up. Men will do what women allow or not..... We've made it way to easy for men, and until that changes (I don't see that happening anytime soon) then this is our reality.

[@SalSocal]

I’m so glad I found this KZbin channel, it has aided my growth, personal development, and help guide me during my career pivot. I am also thankful to gain insight in his vulnerability as well as his success. ❤❤

[@joshuaforester]

CEO of Hinge is a homewrecker. Got it.

[@leadgenjay]

Fascinating insights on the intersection of personal experiences and entrepreneurship. Entrepreneurs should note that dating apps like Hinge use data-driven approaches to improve user experience; applying similar analytics to understand customer needs can significantly enhance your business model. Remember, it's not just about the product, but how well it connects with users.

[@jaydepowell8339]

I met my now fiancée on hinge! ❤❤

[@boni46]

He'll steal her from you 😂

[@leianshan1074]

Binge watching your videos from 🇵🇭

[@hferrari7553]

I appreciate every episode here, no matter the age target. But.. DOC, can you add in these dating/love/relationships, some aspect of the 40+ people? Many are caught in an age where we were born into the last years of IRL everything, yet we’re not so dumb that we wouldn’t invest effort in what OL has to offer. Would you do that for us? ❤

[@Smalltalkay]

The data show that the success rate for individuals aged 40 and above is very high because people at this age are sincere. They are not familiar with applications that show the most authenticity. Try your best and good luck to you.

[@hferrari7553]

@@Smalltalkay Thanks! I also heard that part of the Podcast, which was interesting, and why I’d love to know more (of the data) 😉

[@NicoleF-ye7yu]

Yes!! Dating at 40 is interesting. Id love to hear/watch that

[@nazvannorel970]

@@NicoleF-ye7yu just working on a new app which combines the best values in humanbeig with a possibilities offered by the technology

[@batmanflyshigh]

Hi Steven and team. Can you please bring on Gary Stevenson, he has a brilliant story and a very interesting perspective on the economy.

[@gabrielziegler3369]

I have tried all the major apps and had such a different experience I hinge that has resulted in an incredible partnership, busy atm but will come back to speak to my experiences.

[@LA-wv7gf]

My fiance and I met on Hinge! I used free mode.

[@GavinROfficial]

Look forward to this 👌🏾👌🏾👌🏾

[@esnova11]

When u meet someone, you shd not feel any insects in ur belly. Usually, it's a sign that u will be hurt badly, run! If u meet your person, it's a feeling of ease and peace, trust, and no worries u just know he is, and she is the one it's feeling of warms and comphort like when u come home from cold or rainy day to ur warm and cozy house.

[@eileenwatt8283]

It takes a while to know someone. You have to see them in all their seasons. You have to know who you are to know who is best suited for you.

[@esnova11]

@eileenwatt8283 True, I'm talking about initial butterfly feeling. They might give omg feelings and crazy out of this world attractions, but those usualy ur trama comfort zone and ut body tells u its not it. The thing is, no one is really perfect. I think we shd try to accept ourselves in all seasons and the same acceptance show to our partner if we can't. It's not it, then

[@starlight5655]

Hinge is a good place to get unhinged

[@Susan-id5xj]

Too funny 🤣

[@lauriepeifer7297]

Agree. It's no different than any of the others which attract mostly married men in or men in relationships just looking for free and easy sex. Or young ones obviously looking for the same. I've tried several different approachs, bios, photos on many services/apps. Basically all the same.

[@avivaleh]

The segments on wellness are awesome but I love when you interview CEO's and Founders.

[@Leo_Koesters]

Thanks for the openness of sharing your experiences with addiction.

[@TheCuggsmeister]

So, dude loses his GF because he's constantly drinking and taking drugs. Then a few years later, he's a CEO of a successful company and flies to Switzerland to meet her for a coffee. Next minute, she dumps her fiance for him. I wonder why she had the sudden change of heart? 😂

[@fs5775]

Addicts are smooth talkers. Me guessing the relationship ain't going to last forever... this tech bro's stories seem pretty hyperbolic and far fetched throughout..

[@thepursuitofknowledge5245]

Didnt you hear? its because they had an 8 hour convo and just connected magically. thats true love for you

[@yunabrooks]

@@thepursuitofknowledge5245if the hinge dude told the truth about those 8 hours, I have to point out that that’s a huge achievement. Who talks to someone for 8 hours straight while being in person? I know it was a few years ago, but social media was a deal back then too.

[@jt305]

no cos he revealed he was a multi millionaire duh

[@thepursuitofknowledge5245]

@jt305 guess you are yet to learn sarcasm. Try it. Opens up a whole new way of looking at the world 🤦‍♂️

[@SuperVaporman]

I was a e to the first date that came about as a result of that app. That was wonderful, What a wonderful marriage we have tpday. I was reluctant to try on line dating but im so happy I did.

[@TheAlkebulanTrust]

He needs to have a team to reply to people why they are banned from the app or at least give full explanation to why they are banned from the app. Because that is unhinged behaviour to be banned without explanation and you don't get no response to why you are banned.

[@Aquachick65]

I also got banned for being assertively honest, with no explanation. They don't like intelligent women on there.

[@Shawn-oh5yq]

Yeah, they ban people indiscriminately and there's entire internet communities dedicated to trying to get around these bans (r/swipehelper) complete with people buying burner phones/sim cards, spoofing phone numbers, editing photos, etc. If you get banned from Hinge you're basically screwed because it's the only dating app that is useable.

[@richardwburrill9247]

I like intelligent women. Harvard grad, 65 inch tall @@Aquachick65

[@jt305]

the men I met reported me put of spite. I was permanently banned and kept getting charged

[@nkl124]

Apps should come with required education on the realness of relationships (like an Esther Perel content 😄) People romanticize relationships too much, even those who disagree with romanticizing. People believe that when things get difficult it’s a sign that you should end things. Not saying that’s not true in some situations, but relationships are simply not like that. They are beautiful and they are complex, just like life, just like humans. The issue is that we are now at a point where knowing that there are “more fish in the sea” has become the catalyst for leaving a ‘situationship’ when it no longer fits the idea that each person has about the relationship they want to be in. The number of options can be good, but not necessarily helpful at this scale in the larger context of “finding a partner”. Apps can exacerbate the problem, but the problem is the people using them the way they are, not the apps themselves.

[@IlenElla]

Interesting episode! It may sound like I’m under a rock but I have not really heard of Hinge (well, I don’t do the online dating thing). I truly appreciate Logan’s vulnerability, strength and his ability to solve a problem in order to get to his destination. It’s a very inspiring episode. Truly enjoyed it. 🙌

[@Martin-rh7mf]

Hearing about the growing pains of the privileged is truly inspiring cringe af 👁

[@livingphate]

Love the content of this podcast! You are an inspiration. Keep up the amazing work, and you will always have me as a follower!

[@eriksyring]

Stop it with the “The One” already!!

[@matthewmanning8413]

Intro is on fire. Someone give the video Editor a pay rise!

[@oliviaeidsforth4436]

London! Look forward to seeing you in Manchester

[@pl5227]

The guy is totally blue pilled. HE became a millionaire to return to the one who did not believe in him in the first place. I hope she won't divorсe him taking half of his shit as she left her fiancee before the wedding.

[@editorprimary4732]

this man doesnt realize how hiss creation ruined dating

[@stephenberniker8800]

The biggest problem with dating apps is that companies are trying to monetize a process that never needed to be manipulated. They have taken away the ability to meet only to sell human interaction back to us.

[@theeggtimertictic1136]

On a positive note my 22 year old (at the time) daughter found a lovely fella on Hinge in 2021 during the lockdowns ... she was only on it for a week! They're still together and I believe they'll be together for life ... a great match.

[@swadey2.017]

Yeah they wont

[@GraveRave]

​@@swadey2.017Well damn...

[@theeggtimertictic1136]

​@@swadey2.017We're in Ireland not the U.S. Maybe try to be a bit less cynical.

[@chrischris9157]

Ireland? So the guys probably a drunk lol

[@theeggtimertictic1136]

@@chrischris9157 2 of them are non drinkers ... Maybe try thinking outside the box and have a little imagination?

[@MrGalaxyMad]

One of the most honest and enjoyable to watch podcast i ve ever seen. Often i can see how famous people use their “ media friendly speaking “ on podcasts but this one is masterpiece

[@unscannable420]

This seems like a sponsored comment. "Honest" is very debatable.

[@Martin-rh7mf]

A sponsored comment ~ lol 😂

[@chrischris9157]

lol get real, these comments and this channel fake af

[@unscannable420]

@@Martin-rh7mfyes. Sponsored adjective 1. (of a project, activity, etc.) provided with funding by a particular organization or body. "in the past, sponsored research made up two-thirds of the budget" 2. denoting a fundraising event or activity in which each participant obtains promises from sponsors to donate a certain amount of money for the participant's completion of the activity.

[@Itcornerbg]

Coffee and 24/7 is not enough to finish watching all new podcast videos :) thanks for everything what you are doing guys!! This is amazing production , full of dedication and hard work. Still watching:) I am in love already of this podcast don’t need app :) ❤

[@user-vp3hy5kj2t]

all of these dating apps operate on the same scam basis: showing alot of 'blurred likes' to lure you on buying a subscription. as soon as you pay the subscription you only see a limited amount of these actual likes.

[@Vivi_9]

Hinge is the only app that doesn't do this, you don't need to pay for it to work

[@karynboatman994]

This was more about the business of dating apps than the fundamentally broken way we date now. The majority of dating app users are unhappy with the product and wish there was a popular alternative. It doesn't have to do with the way the apps are designed it has to do with the way people authentically connect - and also the safety of women. These apps are not protecting women by running background checks or doing much in the way of real verification of users. This episode missed the mark entirely and felt like an ad for Hinge.

[@thecorrectoification]

The Thursday Dating app is trying to solve this. You can only log in on a Thursday and it has a local physical meet up IRL mixer for the users. They're having trouble gaining traction however. I think it's a good idea for anyone who actually feels confident in their face to face ability and just needs a good enough ice breaker. The biggest obstacle so far seems to be that because if it's IRL feature it's not available in many cities. I haven't checked recently but I'm in Toronto and last time I looked it didn't exist in Canada, for example. And I'm sure there are safety concerns to be addressed for people to really get on board with it.

[@wexpmedia5889]

No dating app is going to make you feel safe. Interacting with other human beings in real life is the only way - and it comes with risk. It will always be that way.

[@karynboatman994]

This is a truly bad take. Women are being murdered and stalked by men with records on dating apps. These apps have a duty if they are providing a service. They're already facing lawsuits for the way they're designed. I welcome the one that finally gets them to filter out criminals@@wexpmedia5889

[@kbop7897]

****"how many people waste other people's time because they're not over their ex." There I fixed that statement for you😭 oh this is awful

[@jt305]

wow this is so true 👏 💯

[@NattyByNature-]

I really wish most app would stop forcing users to use their location. What if you want to date internationally. What if my true connection is in Africa 😞

[@sunshinemagagula1284]

Your channel inspired me to start my own channel ♥♥♥♥♥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@swit2732]

Basically an hour plug for hinge. That aside I would not be optimistic in any AI match. Eharmony tried this. There were so few matches (members) that they basically succumbed to matching you with anyone for most zip codes. Since no one writes anything about themselves on these other platforms what exactly would AI use to correlate a match, a person's facial feature ratios with the dated pics they provide?? Give me a break.

[@jennam8401]

wow I have always loved Hinge, I enjoyed the app in London and always have hyped the app, I also met my partner of 4 years on it. Strange to hear how it came about 😂

[@mariagates473]

He should have talked about the algorithms!! Do you know the best looking people are behind pay wall ? Do you know if someone else desirable likes you , your desirability score goes down and you’re shown to less people !!!? Hinge doesn’t work for most .

[@eriksyring]

27: No, Justin, relationships are not a “numbers game”, not like that.

[@planningpersonlaidbackdeep1273]

He mentioned empowering people. Whrn I was working at Disney World we had our 7 service guidelines every front and dept mgr had to memorize. During a bomb threat that lasted hours we all fell back on those and knew what to do. Yes cotporate sent out higher ups to the scene to hand out water and free meal cards but the whole team alrrady understood how to react.

[@niyahuang5552]

The CEO sounds like the avoidantly attached who got back her phantom ex and of course, it makes great headline and romance story. But is that healthy relationship at the end when he is trying to get back with a girl who was engaged at the time? Although i think it’s cool to have an app to help people meet each other that they won’t otherwise met in their usual social circle.

[@supernumiphone7258]

Anyone have a link to the other interview that was mentioned multiple times with a different Hinge employee? How is that not in the description already? C'mon DoaCEO team, y'all are slipping.

[@yunabrooks]

there are 2 videos with logan ury!

[@ImanFate]

Worked as a doorman in Justin's building a few months ago. Him and his wife and kids are amazing. He created a dating app though so he's damn near a disciple of satan.😭

[@bro918]

unironically he is, yes

[@patrycja.ll3]

Dating apps are the problem / sick of these tech guys telling us how it’s improving our lives when it’s not.

[@laurettatulipano5905]

Throughly enjoyed this episode! Thank you!

[@naureennayyar1574]

Interestingly : he speaks of AI to find connection better, & he ended up with his college gf… non internet contact. *reflecting* Intimacy is complex, indeed…❤

[@toughenupprincess1987]

I don’t believe a word coming out of his mouth. If he cared so much about people getting together, the app would be completely free like all the features that used to be free. He contributed to the broken dating scene and now is trying to promote it, like this app is better than tinder or any other often useless apps that only make people lazy. Stealing someone’s future wife speaks for his character as well and this woman’s character

[@wexpmedia5889]

Welcome to America. Nothing is free.

[@montyuchiha8530]

His story about hittin up a chick that he hadnt been with in 8 years proves female hypergamy. This chick called off a whole wedding and moved acrosd the world to be with him once she learned about a 20 million dollar funding round for his company. Women will straight up monkey branch to their best option in the moment. I dont blame him, he was in an advantageous position and he took it. She just proved hypergamy.

[@Nope-gw7kc]

No that's called a gold digger.

[@thepursuitofknowledge5245]

She aint yours.. complete the rest.

[@Elisa-xx2xp]

what is the website he is mentioning at 47:13?

[@FIN-LYTbyEWA]

Interesting stuff!

[@chucknappi6134]

The spots, social media, Internet porn... It's ruining humanity. Amazes me that people do not see it and still try to navigate it in their lives. I speak from personal experience.

[@christopherbeaudoin6793]

Steven watching this podcast in 3 minutes I can see how it just recaps your mental clarity and work

[@simonspoke]

I'd like to know what they do with your data that I've heard they sell!

[@Martin-rh7mf]

A privileged guy sharing his woes ~ lol

[@user-eb6nl6zl3t]

SUBSCRIBED!!!

[@TerriTie]

I am currently building a dating and friendship app that I believe will foster real life connections and make it easier for people to meet in person. This conversation was particularly interesting for me.

[@elizabethc9406]

Don't bother it sounds like all the others

[@TerriTie]

@@elizabethc9406 thank you Elizabeth for your feedback 🤗 My app will be different. It’s a map-based app where the slogan is "Pick a place, then a face." The motto? "Starting from Within." Imagine opening a map and choosing -a restaurant, a cinema, a climbing gym or any location that aligns with your personality-registering your interest, and discovering who else is drawn to the same spot or activity, either for romantic dating or friendship and then going through a matching process with them. Moreover, TerriTie promotes real interactions by requiring ID verification and restricting digital communication until you make a booking, minimizing unnecessary screen time and fostering genuine connections.Besides, it’s based on a new relationship styles framework called PICCK A SPICE. Playful, intellectual, creative, etc. which I will release a book about very soon. What do you think Elizabeth? Does this sound or feel like other dating apps? 😊

[@carolinaramoa955]

As I listened to this episode, I was surprised that profile vetting/veracity and safety wasn’t mentioned. Online dating can be scary! And AI? How about filtering for fake profiles?

[@thecorrectoification]

Someone should make a website that aggregates a safety rating of every dating app and site and then rank them all against one another with that criteria. Maybe have one rating metric be safety and another rating metric be mirage/fake accounts. There would probably be overlap because of phishing, so maybe an overall safety rating and then a more detailed break down if you click into the individual platform rating.

[@mario_vicente]

So... among all the users registered in the app, how many ended up married? Thanks.

[@Thomas-1023]

This is sheer brilliance. I recently enjoyed a similar book, and it was absolutely brilliant. "The Art of Meaningful Relationships in the 21st Century" by Leo Flint

[@okbutilovemyself]

Watching this while on Hinge

[@ebbyc1817]

great username lol

[@elizabethmeulenbelt2850]

I'll admit that Paul Brunson's interview had my curiosities peaked. This one just confirmed my suspicions. All I hear is that they're helping it's users get the most use and exposure on their app. It hasn't resolved the issue of user's just working the system for sport hook-ups. Steven makes a comment that was completely unacknowledged that people go on it with the belief that they're going to get sex out of dating. It doesn't matter how intimate and vulnerable a person is with their profile because 99% of the other users who see it are NOT even reading it with the intent of getting to know the person and determining if they might be a match for a long term relationship.

[@Haradeas]

It just a marketing , manipulation, behind paywall shitty app.. just like most dating apps, which will give you false hope. I dont bother listening to this person.

[@Rampage1Rules]

As someone he hates dating apps , hinge is the best one that I've used for free and got results

[@davida730]

Yeah, they all suck, but I think Hinge is the best of them.

[@Vivi_9]

Hinge works and you can easily get dates on it as a guy without paying for any of the features. If you can't find success on Hinge, you're the problem

[@ShortCircuit131]

@@Vivi_9 that's mostly true, but I had to pay for the features because I don't want kids, makes things very difficult otherwise. Very annoying that the most common and biggest dealbreaker isn't free.

[@sc2unstable]

"It used to take thousands of swipes(for men and still does), now only... 50 likes(for women, because they already fucked everyone "worthy" of being fucked on apps) " ... most bs marketing statement ever.

[@xaxb4178]

I would love to see the hidden data and stats the dating apps have. I imagine it'll be an eye opener.

[@deenapalmer9258]

Steven, just going to listen to this episode but just quickly I found someone I really want you to interview… Dr Valter Longo… A fasting Dr.. you know it makes sense

[@sreedevi3652]

❤❤👑Success is peace of mind which is a direct result of self-satisfaction in knowing you did your best to become the best you are capable of becoming.✌👍👏

[@TheDiaryOfACEO]

Amazing! Team DOAC 🙏

[@MarionMM]

I realise that everything is relative but the "problems" of privileged people is so eye roll.

[@laraking804]

Starting a family or finding a life partner is universally the most important thing in human society.

[@Martin-rh7mf]

He bemoans his privileged problems & uses the word enslaved... hard to take a person like that too seriously... The privileged go to rehab, the rest go to institutions . I'm working class & look down on hinge etc.. junk

[@SharaKennedy]

Agree!!!

[@MarionMM]

@@laraking804 Not relevant to my comment.

[@Vivi_9]

Yes being an addict and dealing with heartbreak only happens to the privileged and never working class people you're so right

[@EleynaBulgahry]

Loving every word! Finally, someone is promoting how important authenticity is. Thank you, Steve.

[@hahamasala]

Authenticity on just another dating app that allows people to be inauthentic and superficial just like all the others.

[@sunset33533]

Using a dating app is like dumpster diving when hungry. The book called The Dating App Confessions by Logan Tindell is kinda funny and has interesting stories.

[@Producegeniouses]

- "What's left for me?"🤣😂

[@eriksyring]

1:13: Learn how to approach in person!

[@veronicabell6652]

How do you study successful daters when the dates are offline?

[@bailey309]

Well, I suppose there has to be one which isn’t so good. And this was it! How did it slip through the net? In the good ones Steven naturally just enjoys himself. This one felt like he was talking to someone at a party that he couldn’t get rid of.

[@SueMaha21]

How could any dating app weed out creepy people with less than appropriate intentions. Even mature people behave like idiots on these apps.

[@anita4371]

The engaged man who got dumped dodged a missile. Awful people!

[@werlkj567]

Love your channel. The reflective walls sconces are distracting.

[@kellyjackson4973]

There’s a REALLY great book called LOVE AND RESPECT. HOW WOMEN NEED LOVE AND MEN NEED RESPECT!!!!

[@Anonymous-nz5kr]

@diaryofaceo I’d suggest editing the text in the KZbin ad (AI will change the playing field) since this video spends little if any time on AI.