Top 10 Warcraft Villains

[@Cihall]

Not having Gul'dan and Kil'jaeden just feels wrong. Also how can Garrosh be a villian if did nothing wrong?

[@memesofdestruction5601]

yeah u are right garrosh is not a villain and heck where is KJ

[@adnanaboukewik4950]

I think Gul'dan is a top 3. Amazing villain and no one can change my mind.

[@beastmaster0934]

@@adnanaboukewik4950 Definitely. That shady sunuvabitch pretty much started up the whole franchise. Without him, Sargeras wouldn’t have a puppet to manipulate the orcs after Ner’zhul discovers the truth, and the dark portal would never be opened and horde would never invade Azeroth.

[@dwayne8273]

Genocide doesn't make u a villain uh....

[@adnanaboukewik4950]

@@beastmaster0934 I love Both him and alt timeline of him.

[@twistedash9431]

Not having Gul’dan is the biggest betrayal

[@Iggybart05]

fr, i can think of 4 on this list i'd straight kick off w/o a second thought for gul'dan.

[@ivanciglar5484]

yeah this list is crap. arthas the biggest villan wtf?

[@stefans.466]

@@ivanciglar5484 nah thats legit. Arthas is the most prominent and legendary villain in WoW. Guldan should have been on the list but arthas is the goat.

[@ataridc]

cant tell if this is parody lol Arthas is literally the Darth Vader of Wow. Darthas. I think he's a bit corny, but I understand why he is popular. @@ivanciglar5484

[@Jesse3beards]

In truth, it was I who was betrayed

[@ladislavbayer4271]

I love how everybody knows, who's the number one without even watching the whole video. The story of Arthas is a masterpiece, making him one of the best villains in the whole genre. Though I miss my beloved Gul'dan here.

[@Lindforce1]

Arguably the best character ever created in gaming and no i'm not being sarcastic.

[@sawnmiwe1460]

@@Lindforce1 it is by far! Arthas!!!

[@AdriatheBwitch]

I did not know who would be the n1, to me arthas is just booooring

[@sawnmiwe1460]

tell me you didn''t play the frozen throne growing up, without telling me you didn't play the frozen throne growing up@@AdriatheBwitch

[@AdriatheBwitch]

@@sawnmiwe1460 I played TFT when i was 8-9 played it before wow even came out, and i always found Arthas boring, not to mention he is just a PAWN in Ner'zhul's games, and i am sorry, but i will never find a dam pawn, who was just some spoiled kid before being a pawn, who bruned down the ships so his soldiers could not leave good, to me he is interesting, but i dont understand why people are so interested in him...

[@zanierrules]

Strange to not have Gul'Dan on the list... a character who is the reason for the dark portal, a featured character in WoD, and one of the main villains in Legion. Which, behind WotLK, is arguably the best expansion for the game.

[@peen2804]

because guldan is boring as shit

[@joezar33]

​@@peen2804without "Gul Dan" or the Draenie there be no Warcraft/WoW

[@tekamer6566]

He barely had actual presence. He was mainly used as conduits for bigger bads

[@devincampbell5007]

It IS the best expansion behind WotLK To me Legion is first and WotLK is second though

[@UrbanBeauty166]

One thing that always shook me about Azshara is the scope of her powers. Even when in the midst of drowning (which she was able to single-handedly delay), she managed to not be corrupted by the Old Gods but convinced them to make her their equal ally. Deathwing got corrupted, but she always kept her own mind. She even refers to Jaina as a "novice" when Jaina is amongst the most powerful mortal mages. Azshara is my top favorite antagonist for being so different

[@AdriatheBwitch]

Yeah, its what is crazy about her, while old gods made dragons and keepers like loken or ra-den lose their mind, Azshara just dont even give a dam, we know she hear the whispers but she just dont care, she just badass!

[@UrbanBeauty166]

@@AdriatheBwitch Literally! She's the only significant character who didn't lose her sanity talking to them and it speaks volumes

[@ninaloveray]

That’s because she isn’t a villain like everyone else. She’s seen as a villain for the actions she did. But she doesn’t want Azeroth to be destroyed or fall into the wrong hands like most villains on the list. She just wants to be a queen. She also isn’t dumb, after she saw how Sargeras used her she only made that deal with N’zoth to save her people and herself. And I doubt she will stay as a villain. Most likely in Midnight she will return to help against the void as all elven races will need to ally as one.

[@AdriatheBwitch]

@@ninaloveray Yes, its the big differnece with Azshara and chars like Deathwing or Gul'dan, Azsharz did not serve the Legion nor the Void, she used them, she is very power hungry and will never accept to be the second in power, she will always try to use powerful characters to get the better of them later. And yes, she dont want to see Azeroth destroyed, because as her goal is to be queen, a queen need a people to rule over, if Azeroth fall in the hands of the Void or Legion there will be nothing left to rule so she wont allow this to happens. Wich make her a kind of interesting villain, she is a villain since she still did bad things like killing people and other stuff but she is not completly "for the evulz" even if she is a bit at some points.

[@UrbanBeauty166]

@AdriatheBwitch I like to consider Azshara as an anti-villain. She's not 100% a villain but she possesses many villainous qualities and doesn't care for others, but in her eyes she thinks she is doing what makes sense for her people.

[@sydney229]

The Klaxxi as a whole had such an impact on me, from doing all their quest, to getting to exalted, to growing your little pet guy. All that time spent together, plus they were just really cool people with a fun dialect. Then walk into the room in Siege of Org and see that little guy you raised, plus all these people you've spent so much time helping and talking to, fully prepared to do whatever it takes to stop you. Its a punch in the gut. It was one of the few times I genuinely didn't want to kill my target.

[@Tapzer]

I never even realized, was that boss supposed to be the one we raised and fed for months and months?

[@Lenkii]

yep@@Tapzernot the boss but the big guy before the bosses appear was the lil guy kovok that we raised by doing dailies.

[@Pumbli]

Love the little speech they give you when you hit exalted with the Klaxxi. Great foreshadowing for SoO. "I tell you now, because you have earned this warning. Your gods are not our gods, outsider. If the Old Ones ever return, we mantid will once again stand by their side. The wisest among you will do the same."

[@iriswaldenburger2315]

@@Pumblialmost as if that was planned already :)

[@evilsizer4428]

Ner'zhul absolutely belongs on here too. From being a major role in the second war to literally creating the Scourge, and even making Arthas into what he would later become.

[@ZaphTheClock]

There is actively no reason why Guldan and Kil’jaeden aren’t on this list. Guldan ACTIVELY is the one that pulled the legion to Azeroth and is one of the most ICONIC villains of all time. Kil’jaeden is the reason Arthus even exists.

[@josejuanandrade4439]

The reazon is Hiru has a big bonner for Lei Shen and Iridrikon. There you go. Id tahe those 2 and put KJ and Guldaniel in. Both did WAY more and are way more important and remembered. Guldan is literaly the reazon we had the Legion Expansion and KJ was a boss not once, but twice in a raid, not to mention their impact on the lore. Also KJ should probably be mentioned with Archmonde... i mean Archy did destroy Dalaran, made it so Malfurion had to sacrifice the world tree, and we had to fight him twince in wow... Once i the original world tree fight and the then in Draenor in the WoD expansion... But NO, a mogu that appeared in 1 patch has to be in this list and a dragon that has yet to actualy do something other then be threatening in a couple cinematics, and a meh boss in a dungeon, a 5 man...

[@jointser1008]

@@josejuanandrade4439 at that's the impressive part lei-shan existed for only 1 patch and managed to be still a good villain. and of iridikron... it's too early to judge

[@josejuanandrade4439]

@@jointser1008 Oh not saying he wasnt impressive or that is a bad character at all. What i am saying is that the other villains overweight them for a lot. As good as Iridrikon may turn out to be, or how good Leishen was, they don't touch on the likes of Guldaniel and KJ , oh and Archmonde. Guldaniel betrayed the orc and because of him they ended mindcontoled and invaded Azeroth. Then his alternate version brough back Illidan and gave us the Legion expansion. Og Guldan's skull was more important to the lore then the whole Leishen was in the end. At the moment Fyrakk has more accomplishements and has had a bigger presence then Iridrikon. And yes i know... Iridrikon will probably amount to more and he got to live to another expansion... but his impact is still yet to be seen. You know what i mean? All we've seen is that he is imponent, that he hates the Titans and that at least has an understandable goal, but this all are atributes that his siblings all have as well. Besides draining Galakrond's essence and hand it to Xala'tath, Iridrikon hasnt realy done anything at all.

[@jointser1008]

@@josejuanandrade4439 I agree Gul'Dan and especially kil'jaeden should be on the list. But at the same time I don't mind lei-shen. But since iridikrons story isn't told I would replace him with KJ. I personally prefer KJ over Gul'Dan.

[@AdriatheBwitch]

@@josejuanandrade4439 Reason is BIAS and thats clea, problem is, Hiru NEVER states that it is his list and his POV which is why this video is bad.

[@lordedge9068]

Kil’jaeden, Archimonde, Mal’ganis, Kel’thufreakingzad, and ofc Gul’dan are definitely deserving of this list compared to the likes of Iridikron and Kael’thas who never should’ve become a villain.

[@juanpabloortizduarte4290]

Totally agree.

[@Kirk9019]

Yeah Kel'Thuzad and Gul'dan should have replaced these two.

[@joezar33]

VanCleef , just saying 😅

[@MrLolguy93]

One of the biggest influences in deciding how cool a villain is is the voice. Both Azshara and Lei Shen fit this to a T. Laura Post is an amazing VA. And everyone thought the late Christopher Lee voiced Lei Shen, when it was in fact Paul Nakauchi. Talk about an impressive range

[@devincampbell5007]

Denathrius and Legion Kil’Jaeden do as well I think. When it comes to the “evil” voices or whatever they like to call them Iridikron and Sargeras also do, and N’zoth during the crucible of Storms is the only other

[@charlesc4511]

Where's Bobby?

[@devincampbell5007]

Bobby is Gallywix

[@violetlight1548]

Azshara deserved a whole expansion, not just a patch (with a playable faction of Naga).

[@shaktosh524]

I don't see the naga being playable. Boots and pants and mounting are going to be a huge issue. With the Dracthyr out and how shitty they made their armour visible in their draconic form, I can see them doing the same with the naga and just have them equipped but not visible at all. How they mount is still going to be an issue tho, unless they make them look extremely silly and call it a day.

[@Maniaman213]

She was not killed off and the Naga were not defeated, they still exist as a threat and she stil reigns in Nazjatar. Blizzard did something good by not killing off a villain right away.

[@AdriatheBwitch]

Now that N'zoth is gone, she can have it, problem was, she could not have it while N'zoth was around.

[@ninaloveray]

@@Maniaman213while Nazjatar is still under the waves and probably healed 100% after the events of BfA with the zone also cleansed from N’zoths influence. Azshara isn’t on Azeroth anymore. She’s somewhere fighting against the void. She’ll prob return in Midnight

[@valik7907]

The only reason that i like Denathrius is the VA performance and his character dialogue. Denathrius had so much charisma more than any other villain.

[@superdigo7342]

Gul’dan, Illidan, Ragnaros, and/or Archimonde go in part 2 I guess, even though Gul’dan should be extremely high on this list since he literally brought the orcs and Draenei to Azeroth and created the world as it is now; notably the horde and the alliance as well as three expansions being heavily influenced by his actions.

[@billnyedoesminecraftjoseph8379]

Rag is not an interesting character at all besides for looking cool and being iconic

[@tamealion]

I think illidan didn’t make the list because he’s more of an anti-hero, rather than a straight up villain.

[@KevsShwaShwa]

@@tamealion100% agree. Dude has never been a villain. Communication issues and having The Burning Crusade be told through the players rather than knowing we played Warcraft 3 and illidian is really cool though. But never a villain, dude has his priorities set but would never ever put people or his people in harms way. Fuck Akama and Maiev.

[@DeckardGains]

Illidan isn’t a villain…

[@liamwilson7549]

Gul’dan not being on the list is literally a glimpse into modern WoW players minds. They won’t even know who Arthas is in 10 years.

[@Cerms]

Starting us of at number 10 we have Garrosh Hellscream. In at number 9 we have Garrosh Hellscream. And at number 8 we have Garrosh Hellscream. In at number 7 we have Garrosh Hellscream. And at number 6 we have Garrosh Hellscream. And at number 5 we have Garrosh Hellscream. And at number 4 we have Garrosh Hellscream. Third to last entry we have Garrosh Hellscream. For our second to last entry we have Garrosh Hellscream. For the final entry to our list we have The Lich King, otherwise known as Arthas Menethil.

[@Lizard1582]

Most triggered list for "did nothing wrong" fangirls.

[@МаксимБумбумбум]

@@Lizard1582 but thats Sylvanas

[@Lizard1582]

@@МаксимБумбумбум blizzard are the ones who basically said she did nothing wrong, not the players. It's the utilitarian edgelord playets who have been genocide apologists for years with Arthas and Garrosh.

[@nothingsjim]

No Gul’dan nor Kil’jaeden?

[@adron2485]

Or Illidan?

[@devincampbell5007]

@@adron2485Kel’Thuzad. Illidan I don’t think should be on here

[@adron2485]

@@devincampbell5007 fair he's not exactly a villain after all

[@ilikefishandpotatoes]

No Gul'dan or Kil'Jaeden?? Common this is a redo

[@Kylora2112]

I think Xal'atath is going to end up very high on this list. She was already a fan-favorite character from her interactions with players in Legion (while no one really cared for Aluneth's similar role), and we've been getting little bits of her story here and there since then. I can't wait to see what she does in the World Soul Saga :)

[@devincampbell5007]

What about Thal’kiel Skull of the Man’ari, did people not care for that one or was it that Legion was literally the perfect expansion for it?

[@Kylora2112]

@@devincampbell5007 Same deal as Aluneth. He was just kinda there.

[@volatile1595]

it feels like either AI was used a lot to write the script or a new writer worked on it, it could also be both. I've been watching the "x hours of lore to fall asleep to" and a lot of other older content and they feel more genuine. The script repeats itself way too much and delivers information weirder than the older videos.

[@nwilliamcowan1016]

Keep up these videos my guy!

[@Brian-gc9ru]

I would've swapped Gul'dan for Kael'thas. Kael'thas is kind of a tragic character guilty of "doing the wrong things for the right reasons." Garrosh as well to an extent, but it took it too far with the mana bomb. Gul'dan was just a wicked, vindictive monster who just craved power above all else.

[@vincentcloud]

I feel like Sylvanis should have been on this list. She makes her impact known over the entire series and is responsible for some the greatest changes in the world. I wonder if we will ever fight Galakronde or the full might of Sargaras.

[@somerandominternetdweller]

Gul’dan damned his whole race for the sake of power and also creates the first death knights ever made. There is no redeeming qualities of Gul’dan and is arguably the most evil of all the villains on the list. Considering he willingly chose power for the sake of it. Also willing to throw people under the bus to achieve his goals. Unlike half of them had tragic stories or they think what their doing is right. Or inherently evil beings. Gul’dan is none of that and willingly chose to be evil.

[@Nelfel]

I'll never understand why they turned Kael into a villain

[@start5928]

Blizzard needed a reason for players facing him in a raid, even against the logic of his lore... all W3 players never understood his silly vilain transformation

[@arthas5270]

Well as a Warcraft 3 fan, it’s not hard to see him turning evil considering he was following Illidan, who was serving Kil Jaeden.

[@Nelfel]

I agree, but him choosing to serve KJ has less sense Indirectly it was KJ who put him in that situation.@@arthas5270

[@DrinkingMud]

I feel like it's way too early to have iridikron on here. Sure he's off to a good start but with alot of these other villains we have seen the culmination of their work (or attempted work). For all we know iridikrons plan could be dumb end up falling flat on its face

[@Dormazain]

How dirty Arthas was done in the Sepulcher of the First Ones is one of Shadowland's many low points :/

[@CagedRyno]

The list is missing Hogger

[@celtictheknight]

22:59 What is this addon that shows received damage/effects beside the character with that fancy font? thanks in advance

[@BillsTheory]

I can understand the lack of Ragnaros as his over all story isn't as in depth or anything as some of the ones that made this list, but I feel he deserves an honorable mention as He is an Iconic villan from wow and considered one of the best raid fights both times he appeared.

[@aaronbrungardt2917]

List is way wrong. 10) Mal’ganis 9) Kil'jaeden 8) Ner'zhul 7) Sylvanas 6) Death Wing 5) Gul'dan 4) Azshara 3) Old Gods 2) Sargeras 1) Arthas (who should have had a better ending)

[@ataridc]

One thing I'll concede is WoW has a lot of memorable villains, unfortunately most of them are from the first 5ish years of this 20 year old game.

[@richardthepastamancer6619]

What about tattoo swol valdemort? He's behind everything, and therefore, we must love him

[@adnanaboukewik4950]

Where's Gul'dan?

[@NightTheKittenn]

Damn not even an honorable mention for old Kel’Thuzad? The guy created the plague and was Arthas’s right hand man.

[@OverworkedITGuy]

Gul'dan not being on the list seems like a crime. He has been a staple and one of the best written and explored villains in all of Warcraft with a history so long that only a hand full of other villains can even compete. He was such a major player that Illidan even kept his skull the first time around. Without Gul'dan, the orcs and Dranei don't end up on Azeroth. Without Gul'dan so many more of the key events that are foundational to Warcraft's history and world building simply don't happen. And that's not even counting the major events put into motion by Alternate timeline Gul'dan in WoD and Legion.

[@christopherh4891]

whats wrong with Azshara ruling though? from all the events so far the only things that make her "evil" is who she allies with in order to preserve her vision or ideals of being a top dog queen. To some extent she might not "love" her people but she cares for them because she wants their affections and adoration as their queen. She wasnt killing her people or torturing them or anything wild she just wanted love and adoration and power but really she took care of her kingdom

[@Nett11]

Raszageth was pretty good for someone who came out of nowhere. She was un-apologetically set in her ways and she let nothing stop her to complete her mission. Vyranoth and Fyrakk were a big step down after her

[@Krulfar]

100% but she can't make the list being a one patch character, imo.

[@prophetofchud3387]

Denathrius did@@Krulfar

[@Krulfar]

@@prophetofchud3387 Denathrius is still alive and will come again in the future, Raszageth is forever gone.

[@dogswifty7800]

​@@Krulfaras long as he escapes the Shadowlands so we don't have to go back

[@Trigg3r]

23:51 old dods lol

[@Catswaga]

Sadly there will never be another villain like Arthas. The reason he is loved is his character was built over the course of many incredible years of writing in both Warcraft 3 and the world of warcraft. He was humanized so well and was so easily relatable to yet he was such a strong character that did anything necessary for his people, even what some would consider atrocities. I have honestly always wondered what the world of warcraft would look like if Arthas never found frostmourne and had become the king of Lorderon one day. He would probably become an even greater king of the alliance than Varian

[@StephenBrennan-z2x]

Kel’thuzad is a much more iconic villain than Iridikron and Denathrius

[@jointser1008]

also waay older lol.

[@kostasrh9529]

More iconic? Possibly. But he is not cooler than Denathrius. The latter became such a fan favorite that Blizzard changed a lot of the story to keep him in, which is one of the better things to come out of the Shadowlands. The voice acting is top notch and the feel and design of the character is translated even into the fight more than almost any other characters.

[@jointser1008]

@@kostasrh9529 True KT is cool but denathrius was top notch one of the few good things from shadowlands.

[@alarydavidnin]

Wait you add a spot for that dragon guy that was invented in this expansion but not Gul dan? Kiljaiden?

[@DNAprophet]

Yeah.. decent list, but i think we absolutely take Kael off the list, might also take off number 9 or 10 and include Gul'dan and Kil'jaeden

[@beau9334]

Yeah BC lore as a whole did all the main bosses dirty

[@Amateracu1991DFFOO]

Gul'dan should be top 3 without a question. It's probably the only bad guy without ANY redeeming qualities

[@TanToRza]

Where's Hogger? The top villain to low level alliance.

[@shadowboy813]

Arthas, Deathwing, Illidan, Kael'thas, Garrosh, Azshara and Sylvanas are all villains with one common trait that makes them more interesting than all of the straightforward villains: They're all fallen heroes. Arthas is one of my favorite fallen hero stories.

[@ChessJew]

You did well with this thumbnail, good sir.

[@LinLinXCX]

Where is Elisande?

[@Yankyal1]

elisande sucked

[@Krulfar]

WoW needs to heavily focus on Xal'atath, Iridikron, Azshara and Denathrius in the future. Those four are by far the best villains of modern WoW and all of them are well writen characters, not like the mess Zovaal was.

[@robinburt5735]

This has no doubt been said before, but no Illidan?

[@eshdmd]

Love these videos. But for real though… where the hell is Gul’dan??

[@Mr_Spaghetti]

Anyone else get the feeling the script for this video was made with AI? Feel like he talks so much more generically than he used to

[@Mr_Spaghetti]

“has managed to create iconic characters that last for years to come” [30 seconds later] “From design to purpose Iridikron has stapled himself into wow for many years to come”

[@volatile1595]

Yea the script sounds a lot like it doesn't really know what wow is and talks like a bad gaming article that list top 10 of stuff for clicks.

[@anwaralexander3035]

I'm tempted to believe this is a Christmas gift joke or something not properly conceived... most famous villains list without Guldan, Kil'jaeden, Kel'thuzad... what madness is this....

[@markuslc1888]

no gul'dan? i mean i know it's not popular, but the jailer had also to be on that list as well as nerzuhl

[@DwasTV]

Im sorry did you forget the entirety of Gul'dan and then tossed in a Dragonflight character as well as Garrosh?

[@noctusowl]

Archimonde and Nerzhul should be on this list. Primarily because they were the ones bringing the Legion and the Void respectively into the modern history of Azeroth and Draenor.

[@trilevaa]

Illidan should have definitely been on the list

[@МаксимБумбумбум]

well we have azshara and kael from this trio also lich king too much i think

[@skyclaw36]

id argue Guldan more than illidan

[@rambhaskar6728]

Illidan isn't a villain though. He's a hero.

[@holyflygon]

you honestly could have out "orcs" because of how much impact the orc races has had. from nerzhul being the OG lich king and corrupting arthas to guldan opening the dark portal (the first time) and then alternate guldan. You got garrosh blackhand with sacking stormwind.

[@Amateracu1991DFFOO]

Dude, it is an insult to the lore and history of warcraft not having Gul'dan in this video, not just on the list, but top 5. Gul'dan is one of the most chaotic evil characters in the lore and he orchestrated so many events, TWICE. And as for his legacy, it's Illidan himself since without the skull of the first Gul'dan, Illidan would've been on a different path most probably.

[@savantharionhive9877]

Great video, effort and story telling. However, I can't disagree with others in the comments - Gul'dan and Illidan (the latter being kind of a double-edged sword) should definitely make the list along with some others. Maybe a part two? Or a Top 20 list instead?

[@McLean757]

The fact that Gul’dan isn’t on this list is a joke, and Kael’thas never should’ve been a villain. TBC’s writing was all over the place and deserves a lot more hate but gets a pass for its age.

[@jeffwood1631]

Interesting that Kil’jaeden, Archimonde and Illidan were all omitted from the list.

[@scotty_yata]

Glad Lei Shen made the cut. He's rad.

[@mississippitornado6842]

Gul’dan absolutely

[@Red1Green2Blue3]

Not having, Gul'dan, Kil'Jaden, Archimonde, Mal'Ganis, KELTHUZARD(!!!), or Manneroth is a crime

[@prainiak5710]

But where is Gul'Dan

[@CammyAlwaysWins]

The only reason half of the crap had happened to Arthas was bc of his father, King Terenas. Terenas doubted Arthas in his younger years, even forbidding him from training to fight. It took someone else, Muradin i believe, to persuade the King to allow his son to be combat trained. Arthas also felt as lesser warrior after meeting Varian when they were young bc Varian started combat training at the very young age. Varian, ofc, bested his royal friend in sparring. TLDR; due to his father’s attitude & death of Invincible, Arthas always pushed himself to prove his strength and capabilities to others bc of seeds of self-doubt planted in him by his father. Arthas was also very impressionable- he killed his father in the same manner as Varian’s father, King Llane, was killed. Varian’s tale of the encounter made such an impression on Arthas that Varian’s voice echoed in his head whenever he came to… relive his dad of royal duty. Terenas by complete misunderstanding of his son’s personality essentially crippled his confidence and made him an easy target for corruption. Dad of the decade! I don’t even consider Arthas a villain, he is an anti-hero since he was a victim of circumstances staged by other people. Lich King is the villain, but not Arthas

[@ForeverFridayVideo]

Great video! Wish you could have fit kelthuzad in there somehow! But I enjoyed it still!

[@Amateracu1991DFFOO]

It was a bad video full of L takes

[@ForeverFridayVideo]

Nobody asked.

[@nathanpurss4582]

Interesting, I would've had Sargeras #1 and Arthas #2. I absolutely love Arthas and his story is what I spent so many hours playing WC3 however Sargeras is THE big bad. The mastermind behind countless different things. Shadowlands will absolutely not ever be counted in my books with the bullshit they tried to pull of "hurrdurr things that have been happening since WC3"

[@dogswifty7800]

The Jailer is the real mastermind, everything that has ever happened is all according to his master plan

[@nathanpurss4582]

@@dogswifty7800 shadowlands never happened

[@CrawlingBlackbird]

Feels like a lot of those top wow villain lists are quite a bit reliant on nostalgia. As someone who hasn’t played back in Wotlk I never really understood why the Lichking would be number one … yes he is a good villain, has some understandable … kinda … motivations and some interesting interactions during the expansion experience. However I feel like characters such as Azshara, Deathwing or potentially even Garrosh had a much bigger impact on me. Also yeah, I know it’s a hot take … but I just prefer these villains that have a longer history and more visibility on game.

[@Mexican00b]

can you do a video about old gods pre-retcon? xd

[@YorickTheGravedigger-vc6ox]

Choosing Iridikron over Gul'dan, Kill'jaeden, Mal'ganis or Kel'thuzad.. interesting choice

[@triples2745]

I think the old gods should be lower on the list. They are cool but the problem is how they are executed in their planning, the moment they take their time to shine and break out of their prison they just immediately get defeated, and their entire history is just them losing a lot.

[@ljdoff]

Not having Xavius or Gul'Dan is nuts. Kil'Jaeden, Mannoroth.

[@MrT0XY]

I mean Gul'Dan is the OG villian. Sylvanas could also be argued even above Deathwing imo.

[@handi6]

ner'zhul the frist lich, the first lich. He was the first orc to come into contact with the Legion, creating the Horde that then invaded Azeroth. Ultimately it was he who destroyed Dreanor.

[@jeremiahlemons]

That’s been slightly retconed so that guldan was in contact with the legion first even using fel to destroy his first clan

[@Consumstra]

Queen Azshara is my easy favorite, she's so pretty and heroic for saving her city. I wish we could work for her and become naga someday

[@Consumstra]

I also really love Kale'thas, i felt bad for him in warcraft III with his home destroyed and garithos being a jerk. I really didn't like how shadowlands reused him and changed him along with lady vashj

[@gandix5516]

Great video! Garrosh wasn’t a villain though, he is my warchief.

[@ravedagger]

Never gonna let go how Garrosh Hellscreams actions after he broke free lead to Gul'dan returning which lead to Legion which then lead to BFA, Shadowlands, etc etc. Moral of the story is... It's all Hellscreams fault which one... yes

[@MrSabolic]

gul dan, ilidan , kel thuzad, kil jaden, magtheridon, malganis?

[@juanpabloortizduarte4290]

I´m little dissappointed how low is QUeen Azshara on this list, but without doubt The Lich King is by far the best antagonist Blizzard had ever write.

[@lucashuang10]

No Guldan wow. Also garrosh is not a villain cuz he did nothing wrong

[@mojointhedojo938]

So normaly i agree with a lot of your lists but... where are gul'dan and kel'thuzad...

[@kalsizzle]

first time I saw iridikron's humanoid form I was like that guy is cool as fuck

[@ALC0LITE]

Kaelthas was more of an anti-hero. I'd even put the Jailer and Sylvanas above him, regarding villainous traits. Guldan should have been on here... And in the top 5 IMO

[@chrisdacorte9566]

the fact Sylvanas is not on this list makes me forgive the fact that Garrosh is on it.

[@AirPirateCid]

Great points on the list, some of which I never thought of. However... I feel that Gul'dan should've gone on the list over Denathrius.

[@H_Grunt]

The Burning Legion, Arthas/Lich King, Gul'dan, Garrosh.. All things that come to mind when I think of WoW. Things that are now gone. Burning Legion has always been my favourite thing about WoW with the Scourge coming in veeeery close second. The game just doesn't feel the same now. If it were a single player game, it would've concluded in Legion I think. BFA onwards feels like WoW 2 to me and me no likey. Never been the biggest fan of WoW gameplay and the whole grind, collecting stuff, meta and it being an MMO lol but the lore is yummy and things like Legion, Lich King, Illidan is what appeals to me and kept me playing (even though I only had my first taste of WoW in MoP). Don't think they'll ever be able to top the originals and it's a whole different dev team and the whole change in management I heard. At least there's unique stuff like MoP remix. That's what I came back temporarily for. I hope they do more like that.

[@lens_hunter]

Illidan not being here is bananas.

[@BigHeadClan]

To be fair Illidan is more of an anti hero and they didn’t really didn’t do a great job setting him up as the big bad in BC. But yes I too was kinda hoping to see him on the list.

[@lens_hunter]

@@BigHeadClan that's fair.

[@Amateracu1991DFFOO]

Gul'dan not being here makes this list the stupidest thing I've watched in a while, and it speaks volumes since this is Hirumaredx. Gul'dan orchestrated so many events in the lore, not once but TWICE. Fucking Illidan wouldn't be who he is without GUL'DAN'S Skull. Gul'dan brought the orcs and draenei to Azeroth e.t.c. I could go on and on but not having him at top 3,let alone not at all on this list is insultingly bad, it's like spitting on the face of the lore.

[@BigHeadClan]

@@Amateracu1991DFFOO I mean Illidan was always pretty power hungry its a stretch to say he would be much different with or without the skull of Guldan. But yeah it does play an important part to his history. Medivh/Sargaras are honestly the one's responsible from bringing the Orcs to Azeroth though, Guldan was just an pawn. That said I agree he earned himself a spot on the list and a pretty high one at that.

[@Maniaman213]

Kael'thas whos arc got derailed tbc suddenly supervillain syndrome gets put on the list but Gul'dan, darkness incarnate is not? Sargeas is a plot device, an off screen figure to motivate actual villains. Atleast you didnt put tbc illidan on the list, good call as it had the same issues as Kael'thas. But some of this list seems based on their lore rather than their onscreen deeds.

[@Amateracu1991DFFOO]

I'm so pissed for Gul'dan fr.

[@playablecharacter3871]

Gul'dan effectively created the fel "normal" orcs and therefore Kickstarted half the lore in the game. I love KT but off the bat Gul'dan takes his spot if not another later on

[@usurperx7111]

I completely agree with this list, but Gul'dan should be here. Many of these villains, have been viewed as victim of their environment, badass conquerors or the likes. But Gul'dan, I despise that character, I hate him... and that is a good trait in a villain, making us actually despise and resent a character because they are just EVIL

[@sarunasrimkus1964]

Just came back from Aquaman, can't believe they ripped off Lich King.

[@el.chill.4]

What I wanna know is why can't Blizzard come up with a new villain? Why's it always have to trace back to ages ago and have had this master plan nobody heard about up until the moment we met them personally? Why can't it be like a guy and he has an army and the plan is to kill some other guy that we actually do know about to get their power

[@AdriatheBwitch]

Garrosh exist and he was brand new villain without being here or linked to something that happenned ages ago.

[@Darvviin]

Where is Hogger?

[@D3rKill3rShuyin]

Guldan(our univers) should be top 3 if not one 1 what he did to the lore we wouldnt have orcs on rampage,no dark portal, war against draenei, no warlocks, no necromancer ,no deathknights no arthas and also no burning legion and how many clans and manipulation he did to lead and unite all orc clans to be the horde and even alot more and guldan was skinny weak and small and bullied by his clan and he killed them burned the entire village as young one also broke the connection to elementals on dreanor and alot more even. Nerzul also not on the list with 3 artifacts first one who got so powerfull loaded with energy that he made destroy draenor what we see in outland and open several portals to twisting nether, while medivh guldan able to have have barely one portal open.

[@TheEarlofManwhich]

Guessing before watching in no particular order: Kel Thuzad Kael thas Aszhara, Arthas/lich king Illidan (anti hero/anti villain) Sylvanas Kil Jaedan Guldan N'zoth (if we want to call old gods villains and not evil manifestations of nature) Deathwing/Neltharion Illidan could be replaced with ragnaros, onyxia, or nefarian as classics. Iridikron if we want a newer villain Honorable mention: xavius and lei shen Dishonorable mention: Zo val/jailer Edit: Sargeras i can respect, although kil jaeden and guldan had more direct impact. (Not counting the sword, which was the only hamds on contribution) I could see denathrius or lei shen replacing kel thuzad, the latter for being so badass and thr former for being another mustache twirling manipulative villain. Garrosh was an asshole but he was only forced into villainy by blizzard due to people not liking him. Personal opinion. I see where youre coming from

[@frankhenderson3005]

Im really wondering how Sylvanas Windrunner and Gul'dan dont make this list.

[@Zarkawi17]

Garrosh is one of my favorite characters ever, not just villains. I mean really how many villains can you make a meme video about them having "done nothing wrong" and have a not insignificant number of people actually AGREE despite it being satirical? I legitimately still feel bad for Garrosh every time I hear his line in his final cinematic "you made me what I am..." because, really, he's right. Thrall may have thought he was doing what was right with Garrosh but Thrall KNEW Grommash, how impulsive and obsessed with honor he was, and should've known his son was likely to be similar, but he never really gave him the guidance nor the time to grow before suddenly making him warchief. Garrosh wasn't manipulated into doing all his villanous stuff, so it's not like Thrall can be held responsible for it, but he played such a big role in how Garrosh came to be who he was that it always seemed like a lie when Thrall just denies his role after Garrosh's "you made me what I am" line.

[@ComicalConqueror]

Iridikron is certainly interesting but id have knocked him into soecial mentions for guldan

[@nicai7267]

Can You do top worst wow villains?

[@jcs7206]

10. Jailer 9. Jailer 8. Jailer 7. Jailer 6. Jailer 5. Jailer 4. Jailer 3. Jailer 2. Jailer Honorable mention: Jailer 1. Jailer

[@nicai7267]

@@jcs7206 precious xD merry christmas bro

[@rgytos]

Lol how you used the fan animation instead of ig cinematic for garrosh 😂nice

[@semiramisubw4864]

Garrosh diddnt wanted to manabomb to drop as far as i have seen from the Horde side. He literally killed the ones who orchestrated this bomb drop after he found out

[@zakeeros1663]

Some guy tried to use the manabomb strat but Garrosh at the time was against the idea, HOWEVER... Later Garrosh would use the manabomb to blow up Theramore, killing many innocent people, like Rhonin and Jaina little apprendice. That's why Jaina was quite hostile to Horde for quite a while.