Historia Augusta - Fake News of the Ancient Rome

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Tominus Maximus

Tominus Maximus

Күн бұрын

aka When you write a historical book but you forget to add facts.
HA online:
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Music used:
Total War Rome 2 OST Campaign Compilation
Contemplation - Rome Total War Original Soundtrack - Jeff van Dyck
Study:
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@usernamesareoverrated2505
@usernamesareoverrated2505 3 жыл бұрын
Theory time: Historia Augusta was actually a shitpost made by two friends for laughs and it accidentally survived to be a historical source.
@iratepirate3896
@iratepirate3896 3 жыл бұрын
Gaius and Aulus, bros for life and literary trolls.
@septimiusseverus343
@septimiusseverus343 3 жыл бұрын
Two Hebrews, the ancestors of David Benioff and D. B. Weiss. The _true_ story. After all, who has a better one?
@MindForge446
@MindForge446 3 жыл бұрын
xD they invented shitposting before the internet
@JamesJJSMilton
@JamesJJSMilton 3 жыл бұрын
@@iratepirate3896 Gaius and Aulus are responsible for every funny thing in Roman History.
@DISTurbedwaffle918
@DISTurbedwaffle918 3 жыл бұрын
It was actually the first Dovahatty content.
@gibhacker8121
@gibhacker8121 3 жыл бұрын
The reason it got preserved is probably because scribes thought it was accurate. A history on all the emperors seems like a good thing to preserve instead of some dull histories on Gratian's reign or something
@stefanoagrimi8074
@stefanoagrimi8074 3 жыл бұрын
Yes this is something to remember, they did not have all the sources we got today, they have no way to think that wad mostly fiction
@gibhacker8121
@gibhacker8121 3 жыл бұрын
@@stefanoagrimi8074 Precisely. It was a lie so big nobody would even think to question it. Even if they could, it would be extremely hard to find an alternative source as a regular old scribe, and even if they could find other sources, how would they determine which ones were accurate? After all, nobody would fabricate the entire history of an empire, senatorial decrees, imperial letters, and every sort of government document, right?
@cocaccount6336
@cocaccount6336 3 жыл бұрын
The Historia Augusta is much closer to fanfiction than Dovahhatty's 'Unbiased History'.
@EvanLichtblau
@EvanLichtblau 3 жыл бұрын
Lmao
@ZephLodwick
@ZephLodwick 3 жыл бұрын
Dovah seems to have used the Historia as one of his sources, probably because it helps further his mission.
@lanleskovec8697
@lanleskovec8697 3 жыл бұрын
@@ZephLodwick i am starting to think the same
@cocaccount6336
@cocaccount6336 3 жыл бұрын
@@ZephLodwick Well it wasn't the only source he used, by the way isn't it obvious that his term "unbiased history" is targeted for sarcasm? The fact he used the Historia Augusta as a source says a lot about the book.
@ingold1470
@ingold1470 3 жыл бұрын
@@cocaccount6336 I just assumed he read Wikipedia articles and picked the most memeworthy passages to embellish for the videos.
@iggyzeta9755
@iggyzeta9755 3 жыл бұрын
What if the author was Aelius Cordus and it was his way of trying to make a name for himself by having a whole six historians refer to him?
@anwaltoswald3959
@anwaltoswald3959 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly what I‘ve been thinking as well….
@Alamyst2011
@Alamyst2011 3 жыл бұрын
Aulus Cordus was very real. He lived and wrote during the time of Sajanus and was probably killed for criticizing the praetorian. After his death by starvation; the senate burned his writings. So yes. He existed. His writings were real and sources back it up. He just lived 400 years before the Historia Augusta and was probably a foot note to a foot note at the time.
@dokidoki777
@dokidoki777 2 жыл бұрын
@@Alamyst2011 This comment was made by Aeolus Cordus’ ghost, who is still sour that not only his death is seldom covered, but his fake imaginary book didn’t make him famous.
@imppro
@imppro Жыл бұрын
@@Alamyst2011 Aulus Cordus was a real historian but he is not necessarily the same as Aelius Cordus
@espertoendino
@espertoendino 3 жыл бұрын
The creator of Historia Augusta was your average SPQRposting member
@marseldagistani1989
@marseldagistani1989 2 жыл бұрын
Oh look at the time: Senatorial Purging x12
@Fummy007
@Fummy007 2 жыл бұрын
"Emperor Geta liked his food to be served alphabetically" based
@Epsilonsama
@Epsilonsama 3 жыл бұрын
The fact that monks and preists decide to copy this piece of garbage throught time instead of preserving great works like the History of the Etruscans by Claudius makes me weep.
@MrAwrsomeness
@MrAwrsomeness 3 жыл бұрын
Should be thankful monks decided to record anything
@powerist209
@powerist209 3 жыл бұрын
Assuming if they had it at all. I mean it wasn’t the only one, Aristotle was considered a quack even by contemporary but his works being the surviving one. Just also lucky they didn’t Christianize Greco Roman mythology like Norse and Egyptian (Anu the Baptist version).
@krishenjalali3266
@krishenjalali3266 3 жыл бұрын
@@powerist209 I knew about the Christianization of Germanic myths (still props to Snorri for preserving them for future readers and followers), but I never heard that about the Egyptian myths. I assumed what we knew came from pre-Christian Greek and Roman scholars.
@seantolson6223
@seantolson6223 3 жыл бұрын
@@powerist209 Egyptian mythology wasn’t really Christianized at all. Most of what we know about it comes from either primary sources or Hellenistic secondary ones. Comparing the christianization of Egypt during the Roman period to the christianization of Scandinavia in the medieval period is a bit like comparing apples and oranges, mostly because the Egyptians were a far more advanced society than the Norse. The barely literate Norse living in a wet climate left far less written records than the Egyptians who wrote a lot more and had a lot more works survive in the dry desert climate. No amount of runestones could compare to the sheer wealth of hieroglyphic sources in Egypt. It’s on a whole different level.
@arowin2444
@arowin2444 3 жыл бұрын
@@krishenjalali3266 They also tried to Christianize the folklore and myths of the Irish, which becomes painfully obvious when you have a look trough it. as for Egyptian culture, it has been synchronized before with Greek mythology even before the Macedonian conquest of Egypt. such things get appropriated all the time trough history, Rome itself also did this. and when the Christians came to power they too tried it (or simply referred to non-christian views as 'pagan' or 'heretical' and such, you get the drill)
@shoshann
@shoshann 3 жыл бұрын
We should get a whole series like this, named "Roman Fairytales"
@MindForge446
@MindForge446 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@Crosshill
@Crosshill 3 жыл бұрын
the aeniad is just commissioned homeric fanfiction with aenias as a self-insert for rome
@ConnorLockhartYGO
@ConnorLockhartYGO 3 жыл бұрын
Drinking game: For every falsehood in this book, take a shot. WARNING: This challenge will 100% kill you.
@LunaNicoleTheFox
@LunaNicoleTheFox 3 жыл бұрын
Unless you are Maximinus Thrax. Then you just get to the 25 litres of Wine you supposedly drank.
@jensphiliphohmann1876
@jensphiliphohmann1876 Жыл бұрын
​@@LunaNicoleTheFox LMAO!😂😂😂
@JustinCage56
@JustinCage56 3 жыл бұрын
Okay but the Aurelian version of Historia Augusta sounds pretty fucking awesome.
@johnmanno2052
@johnmanno2052 3 жыл бұрын
I've read the Historia Augusta. I think it's fun. Yeah, it's bullshit. But it's a damn good read. It's the Roman history that Hollywood is based on. It's a hoot
@maidahSh
@maidahSh 3 жыл бұрын
The earliest records of fanfiction and political satire.
@jout738
@jout738 2 жыл бұрын
So its bullshit book full of lies, but the book is read still so many times, when people enjoy the lies the ridiculous book got.
@nathanpangilinan4397
@nathanpangilinan4397 3 жыл бұрын
The Historia Augusta's survival shows that Twilight and 50 Shades of Grey are likely to be preserved millennia in the future.
@SirBoggins
@SirBoggins 27 күн бұрын
And NOT ASOIAF or LOTR ☠️☠️
@DISTurbedwaffle918
@DISTurbedwaffle918 3 жыл бұрын
Beta male 'historian': "Ummm, do you have a source for that? Sigma Male historian: "No, I made it up."
@spassocane3821
@spassocane3821 3 жыл бұрын
The "Facebook" of ancient Rome
@MindForge446
@MindForge446 3 жыл бұрын
So true tho
@Fankas2000
@Fankas2000 Жыл бұрын
Source: trust me frater
@caiawlodarski5339
@caiawlodarski5339 3 жыл бұрын
Wasted oportunity to call the author "Sextus" since he pretends to be six different people.
@septimiusseverus343
@septimiusseverus343 3 жыл бұрын
_So I'm a bad emperor because I came to power with the backing of the army? Good thing I don't care what the s*nate thinks. Thrax should have won at Aquilea._
@Alamyst2011
@Alamyst2011 3 жыл бұрын
Thrax should have bypassed Aquilea and Rome and went straight for the bread basket. Feed his troops. Starve Italy and wait for the heads of Senators to be mailed to him.
@marseldagistani1989
@marseldagistani1989 2 жыл бұрын
@@Alamyst2011 When was the last time there was a Senate wide purge?
@Alamyst2011
@Alamyst2011 2 жыл бұрын
@@marseldagistani1989 Australia in the 70s. :)
@marseldagistani1989
@marseldagistani1989 2 жыл бұрын
@@Alamyst2011 I was referring to the Roman Senate
@Alamyst2011
@Alamyst2011 2 жыл бұрын
@@marseldagistani1989 I know. Light humor. I dont believe the Roman Senate ever experienced a complete purge unless Diocletian counts and that was some time later. Previous to Thrax there were many Senators killed in the civil wars. Most notably during the era if Julio Claudians. But not limited to them.
@chiefmasterofdeepwarrens3208
@chiefmasterofdeepwarrens3208 3 жыл бұрын
Censorinus had console commands.
@barrankobama4840
@barrankobama4840 3 жыл бұрын
Still 10 usurpers against my boy Gallienus
@septimiusseverus343
@septimiusseverus343 3 жыл бұрын
The ultimate go - getter. My favourite Crisis emperor. Disgustingly underrated. Not overthrown due to popular discontent or a legionary mutiny, but by opportunistic backstabbers. The fact that he remained emperor for _15 years_ speaks to his competence and ability.
@barrankobama4840
@barrankobama4840 3 жыл бұрын
@@septimiusseverus343 I couldn't agree more.
@decimusausoniusmagnus5719
@decimusausoniusmagnus5719 3 жыл бұрын
And he beat their arses!
@maidahSh
@maidahSh 3 жыл бұрын
For anyone whom wants to skip, please don’t! Because Tominus Maximus is spitting facts!
@intervjaurenh4060
@intervjaurenh4060 3 жыл бұрын
Whom
@iratepirate3896
@iratepirate3896 3 жыл бұрын
Oh wow someone's finally covered this. This bizarre work is considered comedy gold by historians of Late Antiquity.
@Meow-ml5hv
@Meow-ml5hv 3 жыл бұрын
'Historia Augusta' in latin is spelled and sounds exactly the same way as in polish translation.
@cactuslietuva
@cactuslietuva 3 жыл бұрын
I mean its one international word for history and another is a name. So what is so suprising?
@illyrian9976
@illyrian9976 3 жыл бұрын
There are probably 40 different languages where that is the case
@Meow-ml5hv
@Meow-ml5hv 3 жыл бұрын
@@cactuslietuva Im not suprised, it's just intresting coincidence. For example in English it would be tralnslated as 'The history of Augustus', so a bit different, while in Polish it's indentical.
@ezequiel717
@ezequiel717 2 жыл бұрын
It's the same in Portuguese
@nervatraianus
@nervatraianus 3 жыл бұрын
Glad someone is talking about this. So many authors, even very famous ones, use this absolute piece of shit to some degree as their source. It's absolutely incredible
@andreymudik2905
@andreymudik2905 3 жыл бұрын
The virgin site your sources vs the Chad i made it all up
@keerf255
@keerf255 3 жыл бұрын
This reminds me of whenever I walk into a medieval church and look at the events of the crucifixion, the roman soldiers are wearing 16th century armor. Sorry pater, but I can't help but sorta cringe over these time traveling condotierri.
@BanJanuka
@BanJanuka 3 жыл бұрын
It's the case with every pre-modern artistic depiction, even "historical" ones. People back then only drew that which they knew from their time and didn't have encyclopedia or Google images that can show them reconstructions. Take Western depictions of Mongols with knightly armor in medieval chronicles or icons of orthodox saints and other individuals from ancient history in Byzantine clothing from the early or later middle ages.
@GOF-pk9mg
@GOF-pk9mg 3 жыл бұрын
@@BanJanuka i saw this drawing of Aristotle wearing pink pants EDIT: it wasnt plato but aristotle, i would be a terrible historian also.
@forickgrimaldus8301
@forickgrimaldus8301 3 жыл бұрын
This was actually a style back in the Medieval period of "updating" the story for "Modern Audiences" its much like How film makers today set Hamlet, Coriolanus and Other Shakespearean plays in Modern day
@moritamikamikara3879
@moritamikamikara3879 3 жыл бұрын
@@forickgrimaldus8301 Ah yes. As in when Lord Capulet shouts to "Fetch me my longsword ho!" and they hand him a pistol with the word "Longsword" engraved on the slide.
@forickgrimaldus8301
@forickgrimaldus8301 3 жыл бұрын
@@moritamikamikara3879 exactly lol
@oligultonn
@oligultonn 3 жыл бұрын
So this book is CNN 2000 years before CNN, interesting
@foxcheetah6035
@foxcheetah6035 2 жыл бұрын
You could say the same for FOX.
@genghiskhan5701
@genghiskhan5701 Жыл бұрын
@@foxcheetah6035 Atleast Fox explicitly says they are a biased news source pandering to one side. CNN keep on insisting that they are a "reliable and unbiased news source"
@CrazyBrosCael
@CrazyBrosCael 3 жыл бұрын
The more and more I learn about how much of Roman history is up for debate, the more I want to invent a time machine.
@dingbum8618
@dingbum8618 3 жыл бұрын
it's not even true that Aurelian "alone recieved the imperial power" after Claudius' death. He first had to march on Rome and depose Quintillius.
@TominusMaximus
@TominusMaximus 3 жыл бұрын
I decided to cut Decimus some slack here because Quntilius is another shady 3rd century Emperor, we don´t know anything about him really, from what I read he just sat in Italy for a month and then somehow died. Some books even don´t list him as an Emperor.
@septimiusseverus343
@septimiusseverus343 3 жыл бұрын
@@TominusMaximus Good point. Gordians 1 and 2 were effectively usurpers and were only retroactively legitimised due to the victory of Gordian III.
@sarldegolmongeneral4171
@sarldegolmongeneral4171 3 жыл бұрын
Even Plutarch gave multiple accounts for stuff he told whenever he couldnt fact checked
@notgoddhoward5972
@notgoddhoward5972 3 жыл бұрын
*Barbarianism has become and epidemic*
@CyberRager
@CyberRager 3 жыл бұрын
So this guy wrote a fanfiction and everybody took it seriously a millennium later....
@rogueace4115
@rogueace4115 3 жыл бұрын
Religious texts be like :
@TominusMaximus
@TominusMaximus 3 жыл бұрын
It is sometimes ridiculous how Rome was twisted in the Middle Ages. I remember how I saw one time a painting of a woman in one 14th century castle and the guide told us that the woman in the painting was an ancient Christian Egyptian Queen Catherine! And I was thinking wtf, there was no Christian Egyptian Queen Catherine that I know of so I did some minor researching I found out that the woman was a twisted mix-up of Saint Catherine of Alexandria, Hypatia (a pagan martyr - you might know her from the movie Agora) and Zenobia. It is unbelievable how clueless the people must have been.
@CyberRager
@CyberRager 3 жыл бұрын
@@TominusMaximus Honestly man your content is pure fire, i get hyped up every time you upload, keep up the good work
@rogueace4115
@rogueace4115 3 жыл бұрын
@Sanctus Paulus a redditor's hand wrote this
@bestcitizen9137
@bestcitizen9137 3 жыл бұрын
@@rogueace4115 t. plebbit
@MalayArcher
@MalayArcher 3 жыл бұрын
Its a good day when Tominus uploads another quality piece 👌🏻
@stilicho8987
@stilicho8987 3 жыл бұрын
this is the work of a time traveling dovahhatty
@marseldagistani1989
@marseldagistani1989 2 жыл бұрын
Isn't Dovah generally more positive regarding the Roman Emperors? Including the Barrack Emperors?
@Halestem
@Halestem 3 жыл бұрын
Imma go call Gordian III by the name of Eminem Elder.
@traviswebb3532
@traviswebb3532 3 жыл бұрын
God damn i love this channel!!! You are amazing sir, keep up the great work.
@mrscechy8625
@mrscechy8625 Жыл бұрын
If the Historia Augusta is true, history is much more anime like than we thought
@arowin2444
@arowin2444 3 жыл бұрын
First of all, great video. second of all. Historia Augusta = history of the augustus (meaning majestic / increaser / venerable) the title itself already displays this book as something written to entire fulfill some emperor's wishes, or a way for some author to reinforce / enforce their own ideals upon a story. (like the divine comedy, with the countless historical figures either punished or elevated based on Dante Alighieri's views.) the entire book just smells of biased information.
@dogolionnovelder4951
@dogolionnovelder4951 2 жыл бұрын
more like based
@GOF-pk9mg
@GOF-pk9mg 3 жыл бұрын
Well atleast it didnt say julius caesar was the first emperor
@AllWordsAreDust
@AllWordsAreDust 3 жыл бұрын
Just wanted to say I really appreciate the subtitles!
@TominusMaximus
@TominusMaximus 3 жыл бұрын
Hard to understand?
@romaboo9772
@romaboo9772 2 жыл бұрын
@@TominusMaximus Most likely he's not a native speaker like me
@awesomebearaudiobooks
@awesomebearaudiobooks Жыл бұрын
10:54 It's easy to imagine why. Copying books was very expensive. And the probability of people considering a story worth preserving grows with this story being "interesting". For example, it's easy to imagine two ancient scholars talking about which book they should copy so that it could be preserved for future generations: - So, which book should we copy this year? I suggest this one. It gives a pretty detailed account of the story of the emperor that died just a few years ago, so it's kinda relevant. - Nah, let's just copy this one. It contains the stories of all the emperors, and it also has "Various anecdotes"! I mean, listen, did you know that Maximinus Thrax consumed daily 25 liters of wine and 13 kg of meat and never drank water? - Wow, that is so cool! Our descendants are going to love it! Yeah, we're definitely copying this one! P.S. By the way, you call it garbage. And rightfully so. But the problem is, it's garbage by your standards. But millions of people also willfully share facebook posts and tweets that contain literal misinformation, even though fack-checking a source nowadays is easy. Even "Academics" like Jordan Peterson are seen tweeting about some "CCP semen farms" (even though the actual picture is taken from some random fetish-porn movie that has nothing to do with the CCP). A lot of people just... Well... Like garbage information. They read garbage books, they watch garbage movies, they write garbage posts, etc. I don't claim to myself not consume garbage, by the way. I also consume garbage in tons, most likely. So I am just like them... Back then, when fact-checking was orders of magnitude more difficult, way too many historians didn't even care, honestly. They mostly cared about narratives rather than about facts. There were a lot of great authors, but it's one thing to write a book, and a completely different thing to copy it for years and years, with barely a few copies being created in a decade, so obviously most people just chose to copy hot garbage.
@Halestem
@Halestem 3 жыл бұрын
1:31 should be a dumpster fire heading down the Tarpeian rock. Professionals have standards
@TominusMaximus
@TominusMaximus 3 жыл бұрын
Tarpeian rock is just 25 meters tall and from pics it looks like shitty mediocre hill
@Halestem
@Halestem 3 жыл бұрын
@@TominusMaximus I probably played too much Total War: Rome II and every time I was about to crucify a guy, he argues that a Roman citizen shouldn't be killed that way and I'd usually throw him of the Tarpeian rock. I did this twice and immediately thought that the Tarpeian rock is an unforgettable thing and that everything Roman should be disposed of that way.
@BenjiDYT
@BenjiDYT 3 жыл бұрын
Yo this video was actually really interesting. Hope to see more like it. Much love
@literalrom
@literalrom 3 жыл бұрын
this channel deserves more support
@quintustheophilus9550
@quintustheophilus9550 2 жыл бұрын
I wish this channel had more subs. Very informative and entertaining content! I learn so much about SPQR.
@murakyo79
@murakyo79 2 жыл бұрын
So this is history's first alternate history fanfic
@dhaz4455
@dhaz4455 3 жыл бұрын
Historia Augusta is still better than modern fanfics
@Т1000-м1и
@Т1000-м1и Жыл бұрын
This demonstrates just how complex putting things from history together is and why you shouldn't trust the news websites
@alexanderandro1895
@alexanderandro1895 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for getting straight to the point. Ppl on YT quoting this book like it's history smh.
@davidelder6028
@davidelder6028 3 жыл бұрын
Love your videos dude! They bring such life to topics most people would find boring.
@nikitamysakov846
@nikitamysakov846 2 жыл бұрын
Wait a minute. RESTITVTOR ORBIS was proclaimed emperor by his soldiers. Does it mean Historia Augusta should consider him bad? WTF
@haha-pw7nv
@haha-pw7nv 3 жыл бұрын
"My source? I made it up."
@Overlord99762
@Overlord99762 3 жыл бұрын
Lmao this is basically fanfiction
@MrAwrsomeness
@MrAwrsomeness 3 жыл бұрын
My name is Commander Shepard and this is my favorite fan fiction on the citadel.
@MSF_Soldier_Alligator
@MSF_Soldier_Alligator 3 жыл бұрын
The Arthurian Mythos of the Roman world
@TominusMaximus
@TominusMaximus 3 жыл бұрын
Historia Augusta is for Rome what My Immortal is for Harry Potter
@Overlord99762
@Overlord99762 3 жыл бұрын
@@TominusMaximus an absolute masterpiece that is!
@MPHJackson7
@MPHJackson7 3 жыл бұрын
@@TominusMaximus And having Augusta Ebony Dark'ness Caesar as the main character?
@jeangermain837
@jeangermain837 3 жыл бұрын
aelius cordus aka local drunk
@Charlemagne300
@Charlemagne300 3 жыл бұрын
I love these videos man, keep it up
@crawfordsmith3700
@crawfordsmith3700 3 жыл бұрын
I congratulate you. I very much appreciate your efforts, your endeavors. For decades, as a matter of personal interests, I have been reading about ancient Roman history and can discuss in certain contexts. I don''t know who you are but I have been repeatedly watching and thinking and appreciating for about three months. I feel enriched by you and Mary Beard. Thank you. I own ancient Roman coins, I was eager to buy them ! Hah !
@andreascovano7742
@andreascovano7742 3 жыл бұрын
9:50 completely true and accurate. BIG GIANT EMPEROR CAN DRINK AND EAT. puny baby smal tominius minicius can't.
@septimiusseverus343
@septimiusseverus343 3 жыл бұрын
_Saw it with my own eyes, can testify. That lad could eat 3 oxen and down 5 barrels of wine in half an hour, run around the camp 3 times and then screw a camp follower for 3/4 of an hour, and not be breathing hard by the end._
@alessandrogini5283
@alessandrogini5283 3 жыл бұрын
@@septimiusseverus343 if only he didn't murdered his previous emperor..
@septimiusseverus343
@septimiusseverus343 3 жыл бұрын
@@alessandrogini5283 _Ah, true, true..._
@alessandrogini5283
@alessandrogini5283 3 жыл бұрын
@@septimiusseverus343 i want a time machine, give you 10 years of life more, so Scotland could be annex, and maybe Germany
@septimiusseverus343
@septimiusseverus343 3 жыл бұрын
@@alessandrogini5283 _And let my boys grow into true men, and sire sons of their own. Get a new Julio - Claudian dynasty going, but without the self - destructive bent._
@aksaraylicelali
@aksaraylicelali Жыл бұрын
Source? Decimus: (Gigachad posture) I made it up.
@jackstone112
@jackstone112 3 жыл бұрын
Awwwww I felt bad when he thought I was gonna leave 😟
@Glassandcandy
@Glassandcandy 3 жыл бұрын
“Salve plebs”? Don’t you mean “salvete plebes”? Or are you, like, just talking to me in particular? lol
@TominusMaximus
@TominusMaximus 3 жыл бұрын
Ah, I see you are a man of culture as well. Yes it should be Salvete but it just doesn't sound that good so I will adjust the Latin grammar to fit my needs. And that's what heroes do.
@Glassandcandy
@Glassandcandy 3 жыл бұрын
@@TominusMaximus omnia bene, amice. Ave et vale
@sizzis2045
@sizzis2045 Жыл бұрын
I can just imagine the medieval scribes trying desperately to get their hands on classical works as they become harder and harder to retreive, picking and choosing what seems to be the best sources to be preserved, and only later some historian reads through it and wonders what the heck that shit is.
@Fordo007
@Fordo007 3 жыл бұрын
Seeing the list of lost historical works physically hurt me....
@juhojohansson4797
@juhojohansson4797 3 жыл бұрын
Question: What ancient source that disappeared would you like to read the most? If they survived we wouldn't be stuck with garbage like this. Personally I'd like to read Sulla's memoirs.
@Romaboo453
@Romaboo453 3 жыл бұрын
Hi
@UntoldHistoryAnimations
@UntoldHistoryAnimations 3 жыл бұрын
Hello :)
@TominusMaximus
@TominusMaximus 3 жыл бұрын
hey ;)
@Romaboo453
@Romaboo453 3 жыл бұрын
@@TominusMaximus GOD DID YOU REALLY ANSWER ME O GOD THIS IS A DIVINE SIGN, DO YOU GIVE ME PERMISSION TO MAKE A COUP TO THE ITALIAN GOVERNMENT AND RESTORE THE ROMAN EMPIRE MY EMPEROR Tominus Maximus?
@Gathsidespoison
@Gathsidespoison 3 жыл бұрын
cool video on a rarely discussed topic
@homoe7976
@homoe7976 Жыл бұрын
Source: Trust me, Amicus.
@InfernapeGames1
@InfernapeGames1 3 жыл бұрын
I was reading edward gibbons decline and fall and it shows severus alexander as a sort of perfect prince, going into his daily routine as a man of piety and dilligence. It confused me greatly from what ive heard before. You mentioning him sort of turned the light on in my head. I suppose he used this book as a source.
@iratepirate3896
@iratepirate3896 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah Gibbon and a bunch of others were lured down the rabbit hole by this nonsense. They fell for De Situ Britanniae as well.
@septimiusseverus343
@septimiusseverus343 3 жыл бұрын
_My grandnephew was a good peacetime ruler (you can thank his mother for raising him right), but lacked the strength and decisiveness when it came to making hard decisions._
@keerf255
@keerf255 3 жыл бұрын
Gibbon is trash so that doesn't surprise me
@alessandrogini5283
@alessandrogini5283 3 жыл бұрын
I suggest you to read a good biography about alexander severus, named Alexander severus age of insurrection
@alessandrogini5283
@alessandrogini5283 3 жыл бұрын
@@septimiusseverus343 only unluck
@jensphiliphohmann1876
@jensphiliphohmann1876 Жыл бұрын
09:45: According to Decimus, Maximinus must have been a giant the size of the Zeus statue in Olympia in order to survive that.
@antoninuslarpus7107
@antoninuslarpus7107 2 жыл бұрын
I legitmately cry at the fact that most of the works of Sentonius are now lost to the sands of time And yet this shit exists
@luciferangelica
@luciferangelica 2 жыл бұрын
when they reconstruct the lost data on the internet in a thousand years, you think this will survive, or a young teenager jumping off the roof and landing nuts first on a garden gnome?
@carlesjanes7487
@carlesjanes7487 3 жыл бұрын
I feel cheated🤦‍♂️
@jensphiliphohmann1876
@jensphiliphohmann1876 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for posting this. I had seen some deeply depressing videos on WW3 before but this made me laugh again. 😂😂😂
@lugiasimply6054
@lugiasimply6054 3 жыл бұрын
The "Orange Man Bad" sorta liars of Ancient Rome.
@tenetnottomot345
@tenetnottomot345 3 жыл бұрын
I hold the power of the god.
@randomguy7176
@randomguy7176 3 жыл бұрын
"Mom, Uncle Aurelian is back to tell us new stories!"
@CyberRager
@CyberRager 3 жыл бұрын
Least romaboo historian
@nuvpapupapa5996
@nuvpapupapa5996 3 жыл бұрын
25 liters of milk and 13 kilograms of meat that thrax was surely a chad lmao
@decimusausoniusmagnus5719
@decimusausoniusmagnus5719 3 жыл бұрын
8:10 Also it should be mentioned that using Flavius as a name for literally anyone with power was only a thing after Constantine and the 5th century.
@komandantone7016
@komandantone7016 Жыл бұрын
Maximinus Thrax drinking 25 liters of wine a day💀
@Azdrid
@Azdrid 2 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: "The Rise and Fall of Rome" by Edward Gibbson is heavily influenced by Historia Augusta.
@hashkangaroo
@hashkangaroo Жыл бұрын
Yet another reason to relegate my copy of that shitpile as reserve toilet paper in case of another toilet paper supply crisis.
@sabrinariley3548
@sabrinariley3548 3 жыл бұрын
got a favorite emperor
@Alamyst2011
@Alamyst2011 3 жыл бұрын
Aulius Cordus is certainly Aulus Cremutius Cordos. His writting were collected and burned by the senate. He probably ran afoul of Sajanus and thus made an enemy of the people. It is believed that his works were highly critical. Of Sajanus specifically. It is known that after his death (by starvation) some of his writings still circulated Rome.
@fantasticgoatac4780
@fantasticgoatac4780 3 жыл бұрын
10:52 Truth is..... We don't know.
@canonjean-mignon4985
@canonjean-mignon4985 2 жыл бұрын
It’s the oldest document about the freedom of speech.
@christopherevans2445
@christopherevans2445 10 ай бұрын
Though it is still important to read and study because there are parts that our the only source but have been proven true later by coins and archeology the book's writer(s) sound basically lost and over the top after the historian Dio had died. Where of the writings we have at this moment end at the beginning of Severus Alexander reign, which Court he joined for a time. Dio's Roman history is maybe the most important contemporary writer of the great empire. His beginning to end of Roman history is used all the time.
@nazeem8680
@nazeem8680 Жыл бұрын
Never judge a book by its cover
@anoldtimer
@anoldtimer 2 жыл бұрын
You know what? I believe everything in that book. Just for shits and giggles. That’s my reason.
@elarmino6590
@elarmino6590 3 жыл бұрын
Perhaps the saddest thing in the story is that it falls into the dangerous world of narratives
@jefferson39
@jefferson39 3 жыл бұрын
the longer this video goes the more annoyed Tominus sounds lmaoi
@conradojavier7547
@conradojavier7547 Жыл бұрын
The Rappler of it's Day.
@patrizioqualireto8433
@patrizioqualireto8433 Жыл бұрын
Reminds me of the recent case of a Chinese lady who fabricated completely all of the entries on the History of Russia in the Chinese language Wikipedia lol.
@Moribus_Artibus
@Moribus_Artibus 2 жыл бұрын
Ok, but the small biography on Zenobia is hilarious
@j.a.motteux2785
@j.a.motteux2785 2 жыл бұрын
>when you a hire an essay mill to write your thesis
@sonwig5186
@sonwig5186 3 жыл бұрын
I mean, Tacitus and Suetonius both already are known for making things up, so this must be especially bad.
@gopherasoda2492
@gopherasoda2492 3 жыл бұрын
God, it's written like a school textbook
@Wfalen
@Wfalen Жыл бұрын
Okay so, Severus Alexander would have been a good emperor at a better time. Swap him for Nero or Caligula and you get the picture. He was just too pacifist for the beginning of the crisis time. Also he was pretty much lifted to be an emperor at the age of 14 after growing up seeing every other member of his family killed around him at the whims of praetorians. He had some of the best teachers and a good ruling council. With this he would either have become a mammas boy or a new Nero/Commodus. And as things go, this was probably the better version. He should have fully fought the Sassanids though.
@EinFelsbrocken
@EinFelsbrocken 3 жыл бұрын
"Historia Augusta" - this post was made by fanfic gang
@DQBlizzard_
@DQBlizzard_ 3 жыл бұрын
This is like if only fan fictions of real books were the only things to survive
@CKyIe
@CKyIe 3 жыл бұрын
The CNN of antiquity.
@Dave-qy4zm
@Dave-qy4zm 2 жыл бұрын
''...served his food alfabetically'' bro im crying of laughter
@fairhair1539
@fairhair1539 3 жыл бұрын
Obviously this is completely unbiased and factual information. What a based chad this Decimus was.
@DocSunshine
@DocSunshine 2 жыл бұрын
Is it possible some of these people existed even though there’s no historical evidence to support it? If so much has been lost, is it possible the documents that prove the book accurate in some parts were lost as well?
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