From the ashes of Rome - Battle of Tolbiac, 496 AD - Rise of the Frankish Empire

[@HistoryMarche]

🚩 Sources for this one are quite scarce, so it was a bit tricky piecing it together. I hope you'll enjoy the show! Today we have the Battle of Tolbiac, which took place in Gaul during/after the collapse of the last fragments of the Western Roman Empire. Despite being fought in AD 496 (or 506, depending on who you ask) it marked the beginning of what would one day become modern France.

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This sounds like a normal campaign in crusader kings. He even changed his religion to have a casus belli against other countries.

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[@yansoloooo]

I'm french, and even if Clovis is (like you said) considered the first king of France, I never learned details like this. Many thanks.

[@67cudaksa34]

he was nit, he was king of the franks. the first real king of france was Charles the Bald

[@yansoloooo]

@@67cudaksa34 I know it's more complicated, but the simplified story we learned at school is Clovis first french king. And the catholics love that with the baptism and all...

[@lamelime1]

This is a very understudied time in history. Like, the most famous person of this period was Belisarius, and he himself lives in obscurity when compared to many others. I'm glad that you guys are doing videos on it!

[@zertyuz]

And it's probably one of the most important periods in human history

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Historymarche! Your work, visuals and narration are second to none! You always knock it out lf the Park! Suggestion: Battle of St. Quentin of 1557, the battle that ended french ambitions in italy for good.

[@raphaelsoulard3371]

As a french lad i support this suggestion. Saint Quentin is indeed a good topic although i think the subject of french/italian relationship, wich has been very interesting over centuries, would maybe need a few videos before getting to the battle of St Quentin itself, at least some broad recap of how relations evolved and culminated to this important battle as people not informed on this specific subject may find themselves a bit lost without proper explanation :-) Great idea though, a series between 1450 to 1700+ or so about french and italian history could be a link to the later napoleonis wars, wich has already been developped in detail on the channel !

[@stevo271]

In classical Latin, Clovis would have been pronounced "Clo-wees (like modern Cloe)". Drop the hard C and you get Louis (Lo-wees). (In later French the S becomes silent.) It even matches the spelling with the Romans using V for U.

[@jaber70599]

Clovis is only the latin spelling. - At that time the Franks language was Frankish. Frankish has nothing in common with latin. So the right pronounciation of the kings name in his own language is Chlodwig. - It is still hundreds of years to come until the (West) Frankish language evolves into French.

[@stevo271]

@@jaber70599 Interesting. When did they start speaking Latin? Was it before Charlemagne? That aspect of French history is mystery. How a Germanic tribe adopted Latin, similar to Visigoths I suppose.

[@HikerBikerMoter]

​@jaber70599 chlodwig-ludwig germanic blood both them

[@jaber70599]

@@stevo271 Yes. the Franks did the same as the Visigoths did. On the other hand are the saxons in England. They did not adopt the Latin language. - First: Franks served as soldiers and even generals in the Roman empire army for a long time. We must assume that at least higher ranks Franks have a good command of the latin language. - Second: After defeating roman power and establishing Frankish rule the Franks did not destroy the local roman administration and clerical organisation. Frankish rule was just a military coup. Not an invasion. Then in the western part of the Frankish territory the Franks slowly merged with the Romans.Their languages merged into the now French - We know for sure that shortly after Charlemagne the Franks in the western part of the country did not speak the same language any more as the Franks in the eastern part. They speak Old French and Old German and a they needed a translation.

[@berthamoen4488]

@@jaber70599Frankish evolved into Dutch. Not into French.

[@Mz-ci8wg]

Funny was just reading about the ascension of Clovis and this battle was mentioned. As soon as i open youtube, here you are. Thanks!

[@dominiquecharriere1285]

In France we were told of the miracle of Tolbiac, it seems a desperate Clovis calls for the christian god's help and a few minutes later the king of the Alemani dies and the battle turns side. Of course this was probably spread by Clovis after the battle, Clovis needed his christian subjects (the majority in his new empire) but could not be baptized without fearing that his frankish realm would rebel, so he needed a "miracle" to convince them. Sneaky politician! Great video once again!

[@عليياسر-ف4ن9ك]

But he is a Nestorian Christian 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@mgramsdale]

And not all influenced by later Christian writings...

[@redclayscholar620]

Clovis in reality: "God damn this is a tough fight! I pray I can win!" 😂

[@WarriorofChrist612]

Source? A battle can go really anyway so obviously he'd turn to the almighty Jesus Christ. Not sure where you're getting all of this from like it was written down or something. Christians prayed before battle so that they may win (Obviously).

[@holywater2586]

"Ofcourse this was probably spread by Clovis..". Source: Trust me bro. 😂 Something good happen in a perfect timing, they would call it luck or others would call it miracle from God. Doesnt matter which one is right, it can happen. Its more make sense and believable than whatever movie script you wrote.

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[@nvelsen1975]

'Her uncle, who'd killed her father and her mother, thought it unwise to refuse marrying her off'. Dark age politics go brrrr. 😆

[@histguy101]

If you think that's exciting, you should see Frankish politics in the classical era when they were true savages

[@nvelsen1975]

@@histguy101 If I wanted frankish savagery I'd just look to the present, with two tribes of barbarians fighting for power, while stuck in the middle Macron is trying to defend the smallest bit of decency.

[@ArnaudLance]

Great video on a forgotten battle ! Vive la France!

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[@danielsantiagourtado3430]

Clovis I ! The father of france! Thanks For covering this! He's such an amazing figure 🫡🫡🫡🫡🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@rc8937]

Father to other countries as well, I believe.

[@rageraptor7127]

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[@ommsterlitz1805]

@@rc8937 Sigebert would be the father of Germany then since Clovis couldn't care less about the Ripuarian Franks and didn't helped them

[@vloplob]

So you are saying France is actually Germanic?

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@@ommsterlitz1805 How about Belgium?

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[@IbnAzizAlDin]

I have to say that this was made quite well. I’m not that familiar with this period of history in Western Europe, but before the battle sequence, I had become very invested in the Alemanni and Clovis. Fascinating that this is such an important battle and it seems to have evaded me thus far. Excellent video 👍

[@Muguratiu]

This is a very intriguing video as we can see the beginning of Frankish power. It’s so interesting…Clovis story it’s so similar with other stories like Philip II or Osman’s. One man to set the foundation of a great empire. Thanks for shedding light on this unknown, but most important, episode of history.

[@ProfessorM-he9rl]

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[@Nicholas-ch5ln]

The Merovingians were so brutal clovis was one of the nicest one

[@JayzsMr]

Wasn’t there a story where he axed one of his men on a whim?

[@Nicholas-ch5ln]

@@JayzsMryes but he was one of the nicer Merovingians his son clothair killed both of his nephews and burned alive his son whole family after he rebelled.

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[@ericmarseille2]

@@JayzsMr Not that. Again, this is very indicative of who Clovis was...As recounted by Gregory of Tours, who wasn't there, but the memory was still very vivid at the time: After the siege of Soissons and the pilfering of the Cathedral (remember that Clovis was still a pagan at the time), the booty was to be distributed to all the warriors, and, as the Franks were all equal in this matter, it had to be done by the odds. But Bishop Rémi, the Bishop of Reims, who was trying to woo Clovis and make him a Catholic, asked him to return a magnificent "vase" to the church, probably an ornated calyx. Clovis wisely and diplomatically wanted to oblige, but when he told his warriors, one of them broke ranks, shouting "King! You'll only have what will be given to you by the odds!" and broke the "vase" of Soissons with his battleaxe in front of the whole army. Clovis didn't move and stood silent. One year passes, and the first troop review for the new campaign comes...All warriors are inspected by the King, who, when identifying the warrior who humbled him, tells him that neither his clothes nor his arms are well-kept, takes said arms from him, throws them down, asks him to pick them up, and, as said warrior is bending towards the ground, cracks his skull open with his own battleaxe, shouting in a rage "THIS IS WHAT YOU DID TO THE SOISSONS VASE!"...Typical Clovis! Savage and wise at the same time, and especially resentful! All the kids in France learn history with the "Vase de Soissons" episode 😃

[@MrKuznarsky]

Awesome video! I wanted to name my youngest son Clovis, but my wife objected strongly. I showed her every second of this video. Pretty sure if it was around seven years ago, I would have won that battle.

[@Miamcoline]

Awesome. In France, despite being atheist, the catholicism is so mixed into the historiography of early and medieval French monarchical history that they dont teach you proper context to understand the relevance of these episodes of history. This was extremely helpful, thank you.

[@عليياسر-ف4ن9ك]

You mean Nestorianism?

[@Miamcoline]

@@عليياسر-ف4ن9ك no i mean Catholicism. The historiography about these early eras of French history is written by medieval Catholic monks, as well as pious/nationalist historians between the 1830s and 1970s who's idea of makes a good king is a pious king rather than one who did right by his people.

[@عليياسر-ف4ن9ك]

@@Miamcoline These same foolish Catholics sanctify the Nestorian Christian monks established by Constantine

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I've just been studying Frankish history recently because I'm working on a couple of sequel books and this is perfect material for one of my sequels which I will call "The Cross and the Crown." Also, when it came to writing my first book called "The Way the World Ends: A Tale of the Fall of Rome," you were a major source of intel that I used for my research. Thank you! Do one about Clovis against Gundobad next, or the battle of Aurelianum/Orleans in 463.

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It’s rare for me to see a video on a battle I’ve never heard of on YT; thank you K&G !

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This was great, I'd love more content during these immediate post western Roman collapse time period.

[@AxelPoliti]

Beautiful story that fully explains the reason to have a Tolbiac Paris metro station

[@ramiromen6595]

The battle of Soissons is incredibly underrated, the Romans having a lasting enclave in modern day France is cool ofc but the fact that if defeated the Franks would have returned to their Rennish petty kingdoms and the whole of Gaul ends up becoming Balkanized makes for incredible alternate history.

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I absolutely love this video you don’t get many video during this time

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Please do more of Clovis I would love learn more!!

[@lordMartiya]

There's a somewhat recent Italian song about Clovis. It's hilarious in how it praises him as generous and nice while also listing his massacres (and yes, the band did it on purpose).

[@mhamissa]

Great video. Now, I have a firm knowledge about Clovis ❤

[@forgedinhell4445]

I love the videos about the Roman Empire during its peak and especially about the Roman Republic or Julius Caesar. Although I would also like to see some videos on the Grand Duchy of Lithuania and the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth, seeing as how during the 15th Century Lithuania was the biggest state in Europe

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Very interesting as usual

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please make a video about the gulden sporenslag in 1302, a small group of flemish knights defeated the kingdom om france here in Kortrijk! its an legend story here in Belgium and i would love it if you made a video about it.

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All very good but Hannibal when? It can't be that hard to research when you can publish videos on such more obscure battles and campaigns

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The 6th century is very rich in sources compared to the centuries before it

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[@Necrotog82]

Its impressive to overcome being named Clovis and achieve so much.

[@vitorpereira9515]

Clovis should be called Clovis the Great because his legacy is still alive.

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Fr I like his name

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[@Clodomir17]

Nice video. I hope there will be some more about this era. There is a couple mistakes in the footnotes (name of Clovis’ daughter in #2 and « Timur the Lame » in #3).

[@TheHoggcast]

awesome video, make a series on this please!!

[@DSS-jj2cw]

Interesting information about the Alemanni..My family came from southern Germany. My sympathies lay with them and sorry they got their ass kicked as usual.

[@skun406]

"Germany" is "Allemagne" in French, so they've been immortalized

[@DSS-jj2cw]

@@skun406 yes, I know. That is nice.

[@sdtamarinera]

Nice video. Could you add figures of the worriors to get a better idea of the men clashing at the battles? Think it could help.

[@chanceglantz2740]

Man, I love these vids!

[@theawesomeman9821]

One could argue that the Frankish Kingdom was the true successor of the Roman Empire. The kingdom spoke and preserved Latin. Continued many Roman cultural and legal customs. And acknowledged the authority of the pope.

[@eljanrimsa5843]

One could also argue that the Roman Emperor was the true successor of the Roman Empire.

[@luiseduardoformentini8869]

The same can be said of the Visigothic Kingdom of Spain

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Thank you!

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Thanks!

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Thank you for the support. Much appreciated!

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@@HistoryMarche bro please cover the below list of battles 1) Conquest of Constantinople - 1453 2) Battle of Nahavand - 642 3) Battle of Qadissiyah -636 4) Battle of Varna - 1444 5) Battle of Manzikert - 1071 6) Battle of Sufetula - 647 7) Battle of Nikiou - 646

[@xZelt]

As a belgian I had seen all this in history class before, years ago, but very lovely to see it from this perspective, not like reading names and family trees on paper like we did in school haha

[@goodbanter4427]

God be praised indeed

[@Fredelatorsion]

Very interesting and well-made. Nevertheless, Clovis would be very surprised, knowing that he had founded France winning at Tolbiac. That were only germanic realms which fight one another. France was born like an outcome of the battle of Bouvines (1214) and Philippe II was probably the first having as project to reconquest and gather the territories inherited by Charles II in 843, to form a realm.

[@thibaultsardet7399]

We will say that this is a starting point in the very long process of several centuries, because even if what you say is true, the Franks never stopped ruling in Gaul (hence the name "France" after), there were simply several dynasties, and different evolutions and developments since then.

[@rc8937]

Many countries trace their origins to the Franks. France was just West Francia. Germany was East Francia.

[@thibaultsardet7399]

@@rc8937 Of course, but the Ottonian dynasty was before all Saxons too. From the Merovingians, the Carolingians, the Capetians, etc... All Kings and Nobles of France were directly Frankish of origins. There were a continuity, whatever the Dynasty throughout times.

[@Frank-ru5im]

Great video! Please make more videos like the Prince of destruction! 🎉